What is implied here by the quote is that (sometimes) suffering is the only path to real learning or growth. A foundational premise of Jungian psychology is that the psyche is a self-regulating system, and is teleological in nature. It is always moving forward in some way with the unconscious attempting its self-realization. A neurosis occurs when the ego insists on one narrow avenue of experience and movement; disallowing all other avenues for the growth of the psyche, or the crucial need of the unconscious to individuate. The neurosis then emerges from the unconscious itself.
The human body is also a self-regulating system, and depends a great deal upon unconscious processes (as does the psyche). Sleep is regulated, balance, vision, temperature of body, etc.
So when your ego - insists on doing something not good for your body's self-regulation, such as keeping your hand on a very hot stove, severe pain is invoked, and learning of the ego commences.
It is also true that violence begets violence. When the means are violent, the ends also (often) become violent, with few exceptions.
Unfortunately, right now the whole world is about to get a lesson because the US failed to curtail Drumpf and his excesse - of many kinds. He should have already been in prison for several years, with many more still to go. Huge mistake, Americans, huge.
Let’s not omit that within the psychology of Homo Sapiens is also embedded the natural laws of nature, of life. As such, since we are part of that nature, it is natural to act naturally, and thus are inseparable from the Survival instincts of the Fittest.
From that perspective, violence is not negative, and even fulfills the essence of the survival agendas.
I know it doesn’t sound like violence is natural, but isn’t that part of human mature, of nature itself?
As an Australian 🇦🇺 I’m beginning to hate the United States . Unfortunately we have been longtime allies with the US 🇺🇸 but Australia must somehow get out of the dangerous AUKUS alliance ASAP . We can no longer trust the good ol’ USA 🤬
The big problem is for Australia, their government like so many Western governments in the past, has decided to bend over backwards to let the Israeli control how they think and what they say, so the chances of getting out of AUKUS alliance is very low.
Nobody of influence and authority cares what Australians (or Americans) think or like or want. You think a farmer cares about the feelings of his livestock?
Tell me about it. I'm Canadian and a veteran. I have served with US troops in the first gulf war, I have zero time for the US as a nation now. This does not mean the 75m people who voted against all this, or even those who did that have woken up to their mistake but every other USian still stupidly supporting this crap, every last one of them can eat shit!
Of course, behind Fatman Orange there's what-the-Hegseth and the outer loony fringe searching for ways to bring on Armageddon so he and all his pure-of-heart circle of whackos can climb their stairway to heaven. They may well persuade Fatman to press the big button and it's f-a-a-a-a-a-r-k'n hell for us all.
Better hope the other guy sitting with the other button inside the big military complex underneath the mountain doesn't want to press his. Though the way the US General's are behaving he will most likely be as keen as Trump. Hopefully we will be able to say, thank goodness Trump cannot press that button alone.
Actually might be a good chance Trump resorts to using a nuke or two on Tehran. After all, the US nuclear strikes on Japan are literally the only example of air warfare leading to regime change.
That said, it's pretty unlikely that Pakistan and Russia, Iran's most proximate nuclear-armed neighbors, would launch any kind of retaliation against the US, or even US proxies. A more likely, but still remote nuclear scenario, would be the combined might of the Muslim world finally getting fed up with Israel always creating war around them, and somehow getting the better of Israel in a conventional conflict, and then the Zionists launch Operation Samson, and detonate their estimated 400 nuclear weapons both in the Middle East and elsewhere, to usher in the apocalypse.
Trump cannot just press a nuclear button on his own, it's more complicated than that, it can only happen if whichever General agrees with him and who I believe has to release a certain code to Trump which he first has to put in before pressing the button. I would imagine this was to safeguard against any president being able to press the button in haste and repenting in leisure. Which is handy with someone like Trump. Neither man can do it alone. There are different rules I think if the USA suddenly came under nuclear attack themselves.
I doubt Russia would fire one back even if Iran was fired upon, Pakistan I'm not so sure about.
And yet this morning I see that Finland has learnt the lessons of Trump, president Alexander Stubb is willing to support the US war on Iran if Trump increase aid to Ukraine.
Trump has been from the start, and continues to be, in nothing but lose-lose situations, starting with his stupid tariffs, and going on with declaring a totally unnecessary war on Venezuela (for his personal enrichment - oil) and topping it off with starting war against Iran which the US will surely lose. Never mind causing the US to become the most hated and most despised nation in the world, or at least one of them.
In my opinion , as an old American, the US has been deeply despised since Vietnam -- by those in the world with clear eyes, including we Americans who've had to live and protest against this dystopian society and the lard-assed insouciance of our "fellow citizens".
Opinions vary widely on Parsi. Yours clearly at one end of the spectrum, numerous at the other end. I watch carefully, but thought this particular observation was spot on. Fortunately, our first amendment freedoms aren't completely gone -- yet.
hat's because trita does not see the whole chess board. the u.s will shortly own the entire western hemisphere. the u.s oil companies are profiting wildly. by attacking iran's gas fields it prompted iran to attack the oil infrastructure of the gulf monarchies. this is going to effectively destroy the gulf monarchies so that greater israel will own all of west asia. europe has been neutered. who cares about Australia and new Zealand? this leaves the u.s. /Israeli mafia to focus on Russia and china as the real targets. CHECKMATE.
Yes, that's the issue, indeed, and Mearsheimer, Alistaire Crooke, and others have put forth the stupidity of playing into Israel's "greater-Israel" plans. I don't think Parsi's inured to it, and I was hardly holding him out as some omniscient guru, but to say he doesn't see it, calling him blind, is a bit over the top. You see it, I see it. It's pretty bloody obvious that the USA, piloted by its ship of fools, is getting played like a well-tempered clavier. Part of that, however may be underestimating Russia and China. We're screwed no matter what. As enraging as it feels, Israel likely wins, the slimy scumbags.
I'm trying to imagine any one time Trump has been dignified in his life, I failed. As for the Zionist's, I agree, getting to be more like a pack of rabid unidentifiable creatures.
I frequently fantasize about this. We could push all the demons off the edge of a cliff, but more would rise from the maws of hell to take their place.
Remember when Trump sent the National Guard into several cities after Charlie Kirk was killed? They’re still in my city, apprehending people based only on the color of their skin and demanding to see proof of citizenship. It’s been virtually forgotten by the politicians— they don’t care. Killing someone high level would be all they needed for a complete military takeover. It’s what they tried to do in Portland and Chicago, but were stopped by the courts — sort of.
Cheats will always have a "reason" for their criminal activities, it's all the have because once they lie theyeed another to cover up the first one, and then another and so on. It will stop, it always does because there's always someone who will make a stand and others will follow, it just has to be tge right tine and place, and then it becomes a landslide.
Right now the removal of the bootlickers has begun, the rest will follow. Don't give up.
I have often thought about that. My fear is an assassination might create a martyr for people to rally around and any replacement might have greater power.
Neither of them has enough quiet dignity to become a martyr, so I agree with you. Only hard-line maga could think to elevate Trump to that position, oh, possibly the Christian Zionist's would as well.
If you are tell me this,why was the book "The Shooting of Charlie Kirk: A Comprehensive Account of the Utah Valley University Attack, the Aftermath and America's Response" by Anastasia J. Casey on sale on Amazon, the day before he was alleged to have died.
It wasn't a bit of AI jiggery pokery as I saw it on sale myself because at the time I wondered how I could have missed something like that, found out of course it wasn't true, but the book was there. I wouldn't have known about it but I saw someone feeling bewildered in a comment on Odysee, so I went to look for myself.
Sad day for many people, when I heard about his death and those who were with him yesterday, all I could do was picture him walking about greeting people before they got ready for the annual Quds march. The Israeli and Trump forget, every time they take out one of these great moderate leaders, they leave a space for another to step into, one who may not be so moderate in their thinking.
How about the Western neoliberals who preface every objection to war their leaders inflict on the world with "I'm against the war, but..." Don't take your eye off them, because they won't hesitate to rebuild the precipice we're standing at right now in the name of "justice."
They don't believe in a multinodal world. They are still under the delusion that as long as they are in charge women will be free, gays won't be thrown from rooftops, and liberal democratic elections will blossom. These are the "ends justify the means" people and Europe is infested with them.
Right on. One of the main things to consider, is that in Europe, which theoretically has better education, more objective media, more critical thinking, etc...there is still only around 50-60% disapproval for the US war of choice against a (externally) peaceful country. That neo-liberal shit runs deep, and not just here in America, with our Zionist media.
While the average frustrated european is better educated that his American counterpart, europe, for better or worse, is all about The Done Thing. Europeans tend to trust authority, the way a dog or a sheep does, and they're not happy if they don't have someone to tell them what to do. Very little critical or original thinking.
Quite the contrary. The US, for better or worse, is uninterested in The Done Thing and is concerned only with "does it work?" and "can I make a buck off of it?"
Henry Ford's famous "History Is More Or Less Bunk" statement could not have been said by a european but is perfectly in line with the ethos of an American.
A long time ago, and only after losing WWII. Meanwhile, europeans keep voting for politicians who solemnly promise to fuck the voting public over, no kiss, and the politicians keep getting returned to office.
Feral, I think you need to know a lot more about what happened in Italy in this period. What we were taught in high school history class wasn’t what happened.
Italy largely liberated itself, and in fact, the allies deliberately extended the war here to allow the Nazis to murder a large number of the Italian resistance during the last phase of the war, by abandoning the partigiani while they were effectively driving the Nazis out.
The reason for this is because the resistance were communists, and Dulles preferred the fascists over the reds.
Pretty much everything you have been taught about Italy during WW2 is a lie.
I wouldn’t trust Reuters or the guardian either. I don’t think they’ve reported on regular general strikes and dockworkers Israeli boycotts in Italy nor the million plus people who filled Madrids streets last week.
Given the lack of US citizen support for the war against Iran, the war perpetrators may attempt a False Flag domestic attack. They have plenty of covert experience and connections. This would be a good time to review other False Flag operations, including Israel's attempt to sink the USS Liberty in 1967, "Remember the Maine" and the Tonkin Gulf excuse. The public must remain observant and skeptical.
North Vietnam fired a torpedo at the USS Maddox. The torpedo tubes are on display in the military museum in Hanoi. I've seen them. The second alleged Tonkin incident didn't occur.
The US wanted a war and would have gotten it sooner or later. Vietnam is proud that they fought back sooner rather than later.
Given that there's no successful / serious manufacturing of consent going on (the way the admin's justification flip flops between "Iran has nukes", "free their women, aren't you Team Bikini over Team Burqa", or "they shot 30 million protestors" is something even a child wouldn't find compelling ... this is not even on the level of a Colin Powell or Nayirah speech), I wonder whether this is the moment when the US government is revealing its role as a power player in the eyes of average normie libs (“mask off” / synchronization ritual). The US has always played this role, but apart from Chomsky readers or Wikileaks lurkers, most people are conditioned into believing that it's ultimately a good guy that makes mistakes sometimes.
I once thought that if enough people just understood how devastating and inhuman these wars were, they would not continue and people would "rise up!", so to speak. Given the gloating about sinking ships / killing fishermen / bombing schoolchildren, there's not as much pretense of respectability. Which, in some sense is refreshing, but at the same time it’s a clear signal that one does not need to consent to this for it to occur. Is it that Frank Zappa quote in effect? And if so, what’s the future going to look like? Will this ultimately be recuperated into another era of so-called “Hope and Change”, an illusion of political change? Will the “secular liberal democracy” thought-terminating cliché (and subsequent Sam Harris pontificating) finally die?
I also have mixed feelings about how most of the complaints towards these Middle East interventions (that I’ve seen) tend to be along the lines of “holy crap, my tax dollars!”, as if that’s a bigger problem than wanton killing of non-citizens. It’s basically a population who’ll be more disturbed by watching the national debt rise, compared to, say, that “Collateral Murder in Iraq” clip on Wikileaks. It's the equivalent of getting mad at your friend for killing someone in your house ... with the main complaint being that they got blood on your carpet.
Most of the concern about tax dollars is that we’re paying for a genocide, not that we should be spending the money here at home instead. I have heard Republican politicians and “influencers” make that argument, though. And yes, some others.
I agree to some extent. However, I’ve seen a fair share of bipartisans attempt to appeal to nationalist sympathies by citing austerity concerns, as if that’s a more respectable grievance than taking issue to being complicit in murder. It’s not fun for me to admit, but most Americans that I’ve been acquainted with are not as concerned with the ethics of the government rather than whether it affects their immediate material comfort. Hence the kvetching about gas prices.
That sounds like a huge amount of people in the UK, I'm alright Jack, why should I care about Gaza, Lebanon and Iran. Returning home to watch some mindless television show and tuck in to the treats they bought.
I'll bet you didn't intend to or know you had just nut-shelled U.S. Mass Media regulatory and programming values & verities. Check US international policy positions since President Ike (da good Commander In Chief) and these values and verities which deviate not a whit from 'market values' lay behind each Chief Executive policy and each Military Deployment bill of orders. Take that up with Jung and observe him stick that in his Eternal Fount of Shared Wisdom (see Jamenta, Mary Maxwell and Vin LoPresti above...) and then smoke it, passing his pipe around all assembled at the Roosevelt Institute that den of Commies!
Move along electoral pedestrian, your choices will be made for you yet again regardless of who you vote for....The up-side has been unprecedented stability and wealth concentration for the 1/10th of 1% of US.
Here: We can discuss amongst ourselves. Only not on a US based news broadcaster....
Source: Those Commies and Stalinists at the Roosevelt Institute:
Agreed that US foreign policy had been headed toward war and interventionism since way before; my main point is that up until now there was at least a *pretense* that this was for less sadistic aims. Now, the rhetoric is also in a "we kick the Iranians when they're down, no international law" manner, which I'm curious about. Is it because most people are so unaware of the world that such simplistic "Iran bad" is sufficient for them? I have never voted, I don't believe that the system will ever incentivize or even allow an anti-war candidate--peace is not on the ballot.
I also agree that there has been a consistent consolidation of wealth and power for those who already exist as the top of the economic hierarchy. But the question is, how would one stop this, or get out of it?
I'd agree fully except Israel is not going to destroy Iran as a State, I do agree that Israel has lots of experience killing hostages. This time I fully believe that Israel has bitten off more than it can chew.
I share your dilemma, Caitlin. But, just in the past couple of weeks, I've turned into a warrior for peace. I know that the world cannot possibly be peaceful until Israel is dismantled and Trump and his evil companions are pushing up daisies.
I'm amazed at how terribly bad it had to get for people to understand the huge shift that has to come.
So now I'm putting into mind that happens as soon as possible. And then we can rebuild a world of people who care for each other.
"I know that the world cannot possibly be peaceful until Israel is dismantled and Trump and his evil companions are pushing up daisies."
Nah, man.
Duopoly, energy hoarders, mainstream media owners and mouthpieces, food and water ghouls, house collectors, industrial poison-spewers, banksters, "investors", "insurers", animal abusers, health, religion, charity and education scammers and all of their guards, protectors, infiltrators and button-men.
Every. Single. One of these narcissistic, anti-life motherfuckers has got to go.
I made the same mistake: oh no, Trump won''t bomb oil/gas infrastructure for fear of raising gas prices more but Israel bombed the largest gas field in the world! Oh, what a contradiction!
And then I found that 94% of that gas was for domestic use and so it would not cause a global supply shock on the global market. It will only cause more suffering of ordinary Iraninas, just as Trump's blocade of oil to Cuba is causing massive suffering, on the debunked idea that when people have suffered enough, they will choose a regime beneficial to those who made them suffer.
So it is not the global energy shock at stake with this IDF strike but another step towards causing massive suffering of ordinary people. And the 6% that is exported goes mainly to Turkey, not a factor in global gas prices. And......gas is not transportable like oil so it plays only a small role in the global market , as it is used mostly for local markets, not the international arena, due to difficulties in shipping gas.
The danger is that attacking energy infrastructure could spread, Trump might adopt it, and it could expand into a broader energy disruption.
Locally, gas has risen $1.20 a gallon since the war started. This means inflation, Feds will not cut rates, more unemployment, Trump will have to lie even more to mask his fear of being exposed as the worst President in the entire universe. And behind it all, the Epstein scandal, erased by war, lurking, haunting, festering.
Apparently you've never heard of LNG carriers: ships that transport liquified natural gas. It's become a major energy market. e.g., Europe buys LNG as it refuses to buy Russian gas from the pipelines.
I think Europe is going to rethink buying Russian energy. They won't have a choice if they want a functional economy. Although the politicians and the media there have definitely classified Russia as an existential threat since the Ukrainian offensive. Which is fucking absurd.
Apparently you are ignorant of the difficulties and cost of transporting natural gas:
If you were aware of this, you would understand why it is mostly a local market product...."Cost comparison (big picture)
Factor Oil Natural Gas
Transport form Liquid (easy) Gas (difficult)
Infrastructure Moderate Very high
Long-distance Cheap Expensive
Global flexibility High Limited
That is why "Oil is a global commodity
Gas is often a regional commodity
👉 Because gas is harder to move, prices vary much more by location> And that is why in Iran 94% of the natural gas is for domestic use, and 6% exported (by pipe) to nearby countries like Turkey.
"Gas is expensive to liquefy and move
Pipelines are cheaper for neighbors
Many countries:
produce and use gas domestically
don’t export at all
⚖️ Compare to oil
Oil: ~60–70% traded globally by sea
Gas: ~25–30% traded (mostly LNG)
And that is why the destruction of the Iranian gas field by the IDF will not impact global gas prices because none of it is shipped into the global market.
Pepe Escobar said this morning that there are over 700 LNG carriers stuck on either side of the Strait of Hormuz, unavailable for global commerce. Obviously gas prices will go up with oil prices. (With that many very expensive ships and the incredible infrastructure in Quatar to liquify the gas, this trade is obviously economic.) The destruction of some of the Quatari gas facilities, in retaliation for the Israeli bombing of the Iranian gas facilities, will have longer term impacts on global gas prices.
Good. About time the colonizing, genocidal, thieving West learns there will be limits to how much others on this earth are willing to take. They're done.
Welcome to interesting times! We are definitely living in a funhouse, which statement or even image, is true, or are they all false. There are still a few hold outs banging the war drums, so keep up the good work, and we the choir don't mind hearing the same sermon yet another time.
Psychopathic genociders! The Pentagon, rather Pentagram, is now asking for $ 200 billion to fight Iran in an illegal, undeclared war that WE, repeat, WE started on behalf of Israel. This is WAAAY beyond imsanity! It is treason!
200 billion isn't going to cover it, especially if you take into account the now damaged air bases, radars etc; that Iran had warned Trump and Co that it would target if they started anything.
They also gave full warning to the arab countries supporting Israel and the USA, that if Iran's oil and gas were hit then those countries allowing USA to use their countries would have their own oil and gas reserves hit. Proving if nothing else, it is very expensive all round to do the bidding of the US.
Retaliatory strikes...on other vassal states. What a loss for the US. If you think this is waking people up in any meaningful way, you’re kidding yourself. This isn’t a moment of reckoning, it’s business as usual, just louder.
The US is using the countries in the middle east as service stations through which to fight wars which it refuses to host on its own soil. The cost isn’t paid in Washington, Des Moines or Miami, it’s paid in the so-called “allies” turned into permanent frontlines, where entire populations live under the shadow of decisions made an ocean away by the prefects who own their governments.
The Middle East has basically been turned into a battlefield. And that distance is exactly what keeps people in the U.S. and the West comfortable. For them, this war is abstract, something to scroll past, debate, or ignore. It’s a headline, not a lived reality. They don’t know what it means to hear an explosion and wonder if the next one is yours, to drive down a street where buildings can vanish in seconds. They don’t feel it, so they don’t fight it.
And that’s the point. As long as the violence stays “over there,” opposition will remain weak, performative, and easy to shrug off. Which is exactly what we’re seeing right now. For most Americans, it’s just another distant conflict.
At best, you get mild disapproval and that mainly because people are inconvenienced with higher gas prices and therefore for selfish reasons. Very few will talk about the humanity of Iranians and ask themselves why it is ok for us to just attack this country and kill its people and declare them terrorists. No one is questioning why we are killing the leadership of other nations and then refer to it as "elimination" like it was pest control.
They dont ask these questions because they don't care. For many this is all a foregone conclusion that they take for granted. They accept the premise and only object to the methods and timing and who is doing it.
At worst, you get armchair patriots cheering destruction like it’s a highlight reel. But none of this is opposition or eye opening to anyone who isn't already aware.
So, the solution? Remind them about the Two Towers, which is only a tiny example of really being bombed. So imagine that all day, every day, for months, or years and all because some butter decides to help a rogue state kill more people flatten more property, cause chaos for so many, simply because they want to rule the world - to make everyone else their slaves.
Good luck to Iran, I say. Flatten the bastards and total finish any hope of their dream ever coming even close.
I would imagine that Israeli deaths are way higher than we are told, those in control of Israel could give Trump lessons on how to lie and that is saying a lot.
Israel never allows outsiders to know what and who has been destroyed, it's how they've always been.
yeah exactly. They are just killing Iranian leaders left and right and have murdered thousands of people while themselves sustaining casualties in double digits and everyone is like "yaay, Iran is really showing everyone how it's done". Like what the fuck is wrong with you people? I just watched a video of an Iranian woman begging god to save her and then the bomb hit and she was gone. But yeah Iran is winning..yeah.uh-huh
very few people really question the underlying premise. They just take for granted that we have the right to kill leaders of other countries because they are "bad" and we are "good". How many of the average people in your life talk about what is happening in Cuba you think? How many truly ask themselves if Iran really is
all that bad. It is not no one, sure, but it is so little as to barely make a dent
"The media’s not playing along, US allies are telling Trump to get stuffed when he asks for military assistance with the Strait of Hormuz, and the public’s not buying the lies".
A real conundrum, isn't it, Caitlin! But a good one. For years you ( and good scribes like you ) have been writing to reveal the truth. At last when it will hit the lifestyle of westerners - not the savage brutality of Israel/US, not the bodies piling up, not the starving dying children, not the Palestinian genocide, not the gaslighting of the compliant media - but the fact that it will dent their lifestyle - the 'fortunate ones' - are taking notice.
If this happened right from the start when two bloodthirsty madmen went on a rampage, just imagine how many lives might have been saved, how many children would have been spared the anguish, have a little something to eat, how many human habitats wouldn't have been reduced to rubble? the total blame is on the western ruling class, the oligarchs they serve, the media class who fertilised the ground for all the lies they concocted.
It took one nation, the courageous Iran to hit back ( at enormous cost to itself ) for the cowards to cringe.
But as Bertolt Brecht wrote " ... don't rejoice too soon, as the womb the monster crawled from is still going strong.... " ( Sorry comrades the quotation may not be exact - but this is what I remember...!).
Exact quote or not I agree with it but I also have faith that Iran are fully aware of that beast and have not yet used all their arrows in their bow as yet. They wait for an appropriate moment when Israel and US thinks they are finally getting somewhere, then let loose again.
You do not get to survive for thousands of years without having the necessary knowledge of what to do when countries with respect to being, are still in diapers and attack you.
"Iran escalated the cyberwar, wiping out a major U.S. medical company and erasing data from 200,000 of its devices. Big Tech could be next. Google, Amazon, Microsoft are in jeopardy. Here’s what this means for you:"
Really? How do you/we prove it was Iran? I will do my best to take a look to see what you're talking about.
The one thing I will give you full marks for, like myself you care enough to go back through all the comments, you found and liked my original comment, due to time in the UK it's often not seen with being back at the bottom of the pile. I've noticed other comments just before or after mine rarely get a like or reply to challenge what someone has put. I guess for that fact alone, I'll take a look at your link once I've got through some other things I have to do.
Unfortunately, they seem pretty committed to taking everyone else out with them. That's what their undeclared nuclear program is for, if I understand it correctly. Ending life on Earth if the Jewish state fails. Truly abominable shit.
Correct. Whether when the time came they would actually do that is to be seen, killing others to people like them is easy, killing yourself is a completely different thing.
It was the best of times...it was the worst of times, but at least things are moving. Americans have had their eyes opened, and they're not following the lead of those in power. I'll take this as a good sign. But we can't rest--we need to keep pointing out the evils of the military-industrial-capitalist system. We have to shoot down the wars forever.
The people in the US have had their eyes opened to their own lack of funds to kick back and ignore anything else, they still don't care about what is happening to those countries that have or are having death and destruction rained down on them. Give them a quick government payment and they'll sink back into their apathy.
“Trump, who’s been pretty good at avoiding lose-lose situations has now put himself in the mother of all lose-lose situations”.
—Trita Parsi
"A neurosis is truly removed only when it has removed the false attitude of the ego. We do not cure it - it cures us."
~Jung
Jamenta, would you say a bit more? I don't get it.
Thanks.
What is implied here by the quote is that (sometimes) suffering is the only path to real learning or growth. A foundational premise of Jungian psychology is that the psyche is a self-regulating system, and is teleological in nature. It is always moving forward in some way with the unconscious attempting its self-realization. A neurosis occurs when the ego insists on one narrow avenue of experience and movement; disallowing all other avenues for the growth of the psyche, or the crucial need of the unconscious to individuate. The neurosis then emerges from the unconscious itself.
Whew. Thanks.
The human body is also a self-regulating system, and depends a great deal upon unconscious processes (as does the psyche). Sleep is regulated, balance, vision, temperature of body, etc.
So when your ego - insists on doing something not good for your body's self-regulation, such as keeping your hand on a very hot stove, severe pain is invoked, and learning of the ego commences.
It is also true that violence begets violence. When the means are violent, the ends also (often) become violent, with few exceptions.
Unfortunately, right now the whole world is about to get a lesson because the US failed to curtail Drumpf and his excesse - of many kinds. He should have already been in prison for several years, with many more still to go. Huge mistake, Americans, huge.
Dynamical systems theory. Applies across all complex adaptive systems. Every cell is a self-regulating system. In Nature, just scaling up.
Thank you. I don't get the last bit about violence. What are 'means' and 'ends'?
For me, just looking at the world, I'd say that those who won't 'do' violence are then indubitably controlled by those who 'do do' violence.
By the way I think both Gandhi and MLK were plants.
Let’s not omit that within the psychology of Homo Sapiens is also embedded the natural laws of nature, of life. As such, since we are part of that nature, it is natural to act naturally, and thus are inseparable from the Survival instincts of the Fittest.
From that perspective, violence is not negative, and even fulfills the essence of the survival agendas.
I know it doesn’t sound like violence is natural, but isn’t that part of human mature, of nature itself?
As an Australian 🇦🇺 I’m beginning to hate the United States . Unfortunately we have been longtime allies with the US 🇺🇸 but Australia must somehow get out of the dangerous AUKUS alliance ASAP . We can no longer trust the good ol’ USA 🤬
The big problem is for Australia, their government like so many Western governments in the past, has decided to bend over backwards to let the Israeli control how they think and what they say, so the chances of getting out of AUKUS alliance is very low.
Nobody of influence and authority cares what Australians (or Americans) think or like or want. You think a farmer cares about the feelings of his livestock?
Some farmers do. But I see what you're saying.
I live in North Dakota and grew up in a barn. Farmers are the most unsentimental humans out there.
Tell me about it. I'm Canadian and a veteran. I have served with US troops in the first gulf war, I have zero time for the US as a nation now. This does not mean the 75m people who voted against all this, or even those who did that have woken up to their mistake but every other USian still stupidly supporting this crap, every last one of them can eat shit!
Dr. Angyal speaks of the weakness
which results from lack of conceptual clarity concerning
what is to be encouraged and fostered. Here the idea
of the "real self" emerges in functional terms - as a
development consistent "with the principle of confident
self-acceptance that governs the basic system of health".
He continues:
The healthy pattern must be sought and uncovered, not
within the pseudo-normal surface personality where its
vestiges serve merely to disguise the neurotic assumptions,
but within the depth of neurosis itself. Only when
the destructive and self-destructive attitudes ... can
themselves be shown to be distortions of healthy trends
is contact with the real self established; one gets to
it by going through the neurotic attitudes, not around
them. Tracing manifest disturbances to the unacceptable
motives generated within the neurotic framework takes
one only halfway toward understanding them. This
partial understanding fills the person with shame and
guilt, which in themselves are not conducive to change.
Real understanding traces the neurotic manifestation
all the way back to its healthy sources.
When the neurosis is discovered to be an approximation, or a
twisted version of health, the patient's outlook becomes hopeful.
excerpts from:
'Thinking and Writing'
VOLUME XXIX, NO. 10MARCH 10, 1976
http://www.manasjournal.org/pdf_library/VolumeXXIX_1976/XXIX-10.pdf
I'm going to quote Spock on this: "Fascinating doctor."
"Neurosis is an affliction of motive; recovery involves self-understanding, or
being able to distinguish between healthy and neurotic motives, which are often intertwined."
----
The Neurosis of misdirection & fractured identity
& weakness which results from lack of conceptual
clarity tends to spread its cancerous mendacity
---
Focus Unite!
;-)
Of course, behind Fatman Orange there's what-the-Hegseth and the outer loony fringe searching for ways to bring on Armageddon so he and all his pure-of-heart circle of whackos can climb their stairway to heaven. They may well persuade Fatman to press the big button and it's f-a-a-a-a-a-r-k'n hell for us all.
By wielding the fattest grisliest Lies: "This administration makes Hunter Biden look like Ralph Nader"
-Max Blumenthal
Better hope the other guy sitting with the other button inside the big military complex underneath the mountain doesn't want to press his. Though the way the US General's are behaving he will most likely be as keen as Trump. Hopefully we will be able to say, thank goodness Trump cannot press that button alone.
Actually might be a good chance Trump resorts to using a nuke or two on Tehran. After all, the US nuclear strikes on Japan are literally the only example of air warfare leading to regime change.
That said, it's pretty unlikely that Pakistan and Russia, Iran's most proximate nuclear-armed neighbors, would launch any kind of retaliation against the US, or even US proxies. A more likely, but still remote nuclear scenario, would be the combined might of the Muslim world finally getting fed up with Israel always creating war around them, and somehow getting the better of Israel in a conventional conflict, and then the Zionists launch Operation Samson, and detonate their estimated 400 nuclear weapons both in the Middle East and elsewhere, to usher in the apocalypse.
Trump cannot just press a nuclear button on his own, it's more complicated than that, it can only happen if whichever General agrees with him and who I believe has to release a certain code to Trump which he first has to put in before pressing the button. I would imagine this was to safeguard against any president being able to press the button in haste and repenting in leisure. Which is handy with someone like Trump. Neither man can do it alone. There are different rules I think if the USA suddenly came under nuclear attack themselves.
I doubt Russia would fire one back even if Iran was fired upon, Pakistan I'm not so sure about.
Jesus loves war.
Apparently, so do pedophile billionaires and the MIC.
No, it's people who think they're speaking for Jesus who love war. And these war hawks need to shut the f*ck up!
And yet this morning I see that Finland has learnt the lessons of Trump, president Alexander Stubb is willing to support the US war on Iran if Trump increase aid to Ukraine.
Ah yes, self-interest trumps rationality once more in the corrupt human ego.
Spot on.
I heard this too...............go for it Finland you a-holes.
I hope so, they will soon be filled with deep regret
Trump has been from the start, and continues to be, in nothing but lose-lose situations, starting with his stupid tariffs, and going on with declaring a totally unnecessary war on Venezuela (for his personal enrichment - oil) and topping it off with starting war against Iran which the US will surely lose. Never mind causing the US to become the most hated and most despised nation in the world, or at least one of them.
In my opinion , as an old American, the US has been deeply despised since Vietnam -- by those in the world with clear eyes, including we Americans who've had to live and protest against this dystopian society and the lard-assed insouciance of our "fellow citizens".
Vinさん, I have nothing against you, but fuck Trita Parsi. He’s a filthy disgusting CIA asset. Fuck him. Fuck his endless lies and disinformation.
Opinions vary widely on Parsi. Yours clearly at one end of the spectrum, numerous at the other end. I watch carefully, but thought this particular observation was spot on. Fortunately, our first amendment freedoms aren't completely gone -- yet.
hat's because trita does not see the whole chess board. the u.s will shortly own the entire western hemisphere. the u.s oil companies are profiting wildly. by attacking iran's gas fields it prompted iran to attack the oil infrastructure of the gulf monarchies. this is going to effectively destroy the gulf monarchies so that greater israel will own all of west asia. europe has been neutered. who cares about Australia and new Zealand? this leaves the u.s. /Israeli mafia to focus on Russia and china as the real targets. CHECKMATE.
Yes, that's the issue, indeed, and Mearsheimer, Alistaire Crooke, and others have put forth the stupidity of playing into Israel's "greater-Israel" plans. I don't think Parsi's inured to it, and I was hardly holding him out as some omniscient guru, but to say he doesn't see it, calling him blind, is a bit over the top. You see it, I see it. It's pretty bloody obvious that the USA, piloted by its ship of fools, is getting played like a well-tempered clavier. Part of that, however may be underestimating Russia and China. We're screwed no matter what. As enraging as it feels, Israel likely wins, the slimy scumbags.
Zionists and Trump show us how to behave without any semblance of Dignity.
I'm trying to imagine any one time Trump has been dignified in his life, I failed. As for the Zionist's, I agree, getting to be more like a pack of rabid unidentifiable creatures.
Israel has killed Ali Larijani - An Iranian moderate that was willing to negotiate for a possible end of hostilities.
They have no desire for anything less than a scorched earth elimination of their enemies.
https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/murder-most-foul-fc1?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=837411&post_id=191342481&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=4x5pf&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
At this point, it certainly seems to be Israel's survival vs that of everyone else.
If Iran loses this war (and I don't think they will) it will cement USrael as a global autocracy.
I fear there will be months of suffering before there is any light at the end of the tunnel.
An assassin or two could stop the whole thing, and I don't mean more Iranians - they are the innocents in this horror.
I frequently fantasize about this. We could push all the demons off the edge of a cliff, but more would rise from the maws of hell to take their place.
It would be used as a further excuse for oppression.
By whom?
Remember when Trump sent the National Guard into several cities after Charlie Kirk was killed? They’re still in my city, apprehending people based only on the color of their skin and demanding to see proof of citizenship. It’s been virtually forgotten by the politicians— they don’t care. Killing someone high level would be all they needed for a complete military takeover. It’s what they tried to do in Portland and Chicago, but were stopped by the courts — sort of.
Cheats will always have a "reason" for their criminal activities, it's all the have because once they lie theyeed another to cover up the first one, and then another and so on. It will stop, it always does because there's always someone who will make a stand and others will follow, it just has to be tge right tine and place, and then it becomes a landslide.
Right now the removal of the bootlickers has begun, the rest will follow. Don't give up.
I no longer call them bootlickers. I call them loose shoe lickers
Anyone looking for an excuse.
I have often thought about that. My fear is an assassination might create a martyr for people to rally around and any replacement might have greater power.
its hard to make someone like Trumptanyahu a martyr, they have far too slimy of a personality for that saintly aura
Neither of them has enough quiet dignity to become a martyr, so I agree with you. Only hard-line maga could think to elevate Trump to that position, oh, possibly the Christian Zionist's would as well.
I dunno - do you think Kirk's death has had that effect?
Are you really sure that Kirk died?
If you are tell me this,why was the book "The Shooting of Charlie Kirk: A Comprehensive Account of the Utah Valley University Attack, the Aftermath and America's Response" by Anastasia J. Casey on sale on Amazon, the day before he was alleged to have died.
It wasn't a bit of AI jiggery pokery as I saw it on sale myself because at the time I wondered how I could have missed something like that, found out of course it wasn't true, but the book was there. I wouldn't have known about it but I saw someone feeling bewildered in a comment on Odysee, so I went to look for myself.
Sad day for many people, when I heard about his death and those who were with him yesterday, all I could do was picture him walking about greeting people before they got ready for the annual Quds march. The Israeli and Trump forget, every time they take out one of these great moderate leaders, they leave a space for another to step into, one who may not be so moderate in their thinking.
How about the Western neoliberals who preface every objection to war their leaders inflict on the world with "I'm against the war, but..." Don't take your eye off them, because they won't hesitate to rebuild the precipice we're standing at right now in the name of "justice."
They don't believe in a multinodal world. They are still under the delusion that as long as they are in charge women will be free, gays won't be thrown from rooftops, and liberal democratic elections will blossom. These are the "ends justify the means" people and Europe is infested with them.
Right on. One of the main things to consider, is that in Europe, which theoretically has better education, more objective media, more critical thinking, etc...there is still only around 50-60% disapproval for the US war of choice against a (externally) peaceful country. That neo-liberal shit runs deep, and not just here in America, with our Zionist media.
Not the europe I lived in.
While the average frustrated european is better educated that his American counterpart, europe, for better or worse, is all about The Done Thing. Europeans tend to trust authority, the way a dog or a sheep does, and they're not happy if they don't have someone to tell them what to do. Very little critical or original thinking.
Hmmmm. Sounds oddly like the U.S.
Quite the contrary. The US, for better or worse, is uninterested in The Done Thing and is concerned only with "does it work?" and "can I make a buck off of it?"
Henry Ford's famous "History Is More Or Less Bunk" statement could not have been said by a european but is perfectly in line with the ethos of an American.
That isn’t the Europe of right now. Remember, we hung Mussolini in the streets here.
A long time ago, and only after losing WWII. Meanwhile, europeans keep voting for politicians who solemnly promise to fuck the voting public over, no kiss, and the politicians keep getting returned to office.
Like the way a dying dog licks his Master's hand.
Feral, I think you need to know a lot more about what happened in Italy in this period. What we were taught in high school history class wasn’t what happened.
Italy largely liberated itself, and in fact, the allies deliberately extended the war here to allow the Nazis to murder a large number of the Italian resistance during the last phase of the war, by abandoning the partigiani while they were effectively driving the Nazis out.
The reason for this is because the resistance were communists, and Dulles preferred the fascists over the reds.
Pretty much everything you have been taught about Italy during WW2 is a lie.
Not arguing that. However, the Italian Social Republic held on until the bitter end.
The communists would assuredly have won the postwar Italian election if it had been conducted fairly. Not arguing that.
Are you speaking of the political elites or the population? The antiwar movement is alive and well in Spain and Italy.
Just have to depose Meloni!
The population. According to Guardian, Reuters, etc. I certainly wouldn't trust or cite an American news source.
I wouldn’t trust Reuters or the guardian either. I don’t think they’ve reported on regular general strikes and dockworkers Israeli boycotts in Italy nor the million plus people who filled Madrids streets last week.
Given the lack of US citizen support for the war against Iran, the war perpetrators may attempt a False Flag domestic attack. They have plenty of covert experience and connections. This would be a good time to review other False Flag operations, including Israel's attempt to sink the USS Liberty in 1967, "Remember the Maine" and the Tonkin Gulf excuse. The public must remain observant and skeptical.
North Vietnam fired a torpedo at the USS Maddox. The torpedo tubes are on display in the military museum in Hanoi. I've seen them. The second alleged Tonkin incident didn't occur.
The US wanted a war and would have gotten it sooner or later. Vietnam is proud that they fought back sooner rather than later.
Given that there's no successful / serious manufacturing of consent going on (the way the admin's justification flip flops between "Iran has nukes", "free their women, aren't you Team Bikini over Team Burqa", or "they shot 30 million protestors" is something even a child wouldn't find compelling ... this is not even on the level of a Colin Powell or Nayirah speech), I wonder whether this is the moment when the US government is revealing its role as a power player in the eyes of average normie libs (“mask off” / synchronization ritual). The US has always played this role, but apart from Chomsky readers or Wikileaks lurkers, most people are conditioned into believing that it's ultimately a good guy that makes mistakes sometimes.
I once thought that if enough people just understood how devastating and inhuman these wars were, they would not continue and people would "rise up!", so to speak. Given the gloating about sinking ships / killing fishermen / bombing schoolchildren, there's not as much pretense of respectability. Which, in some sense is refreshing, but at the same time it’s a clear signal that one does not need to consent to this for it to occur. Is it that Frank Zappa quote in effect? And if so, what’s the future going to look like? Will this ultimately be recuperated into another era of so-called “Hope and Change”, an illusion of political change? Will the “secular liberal democracy” thought-terminating cliché (and subsequent Sam Harris pontificating) finally die?
I also have mixed feelings about how most of the complaints towards these Middle East interventions (that I’ve seen) tend to be along the lines of “holy crap, my tax dollars!”, as if that’s a bigger problem than wanton killing of non-citizens. It’s basically a population who’ll be more disturbed by watching the national debt rise, compared to, say, that “Collateral Murder in Iraq” clip on Wikileaks. It's the equivalent of getting mad at your friend for killing someone in your house ... with the main complaint being that they got blood on your carpet.
Most of the concern about tax dollars is that we’re paying for a genocide, not that we should be spending the money here at home instead. I have heard Republican politicians and “influencers” make that argument, though. And yes, some others.
I agree to some extent. However, I’ve seen a fair share of bipartisans attempt to appeal to nationalist sympathies by citing austerity concerns, as if that’s a more respectable grievance than taking issue to being complicit in murder. It’s not fun for me to admit, but most Americans that I’ve been acquainted with are not as concerned with the ethics of the government rather than whether it affects their immediate material comfort. Hence the kvetching about gas prices.
That sounds like a huge amount of people in the UK, I'm alright Jack, why should I care about Gaza, Lebanon and Iran. Returning home to watch some mindless television show and tuck in to the treats they bought.
I'll bet you didn't intend to or know you had just nut-shelled U.S. Mass Media regulatory and programming values & verities. Check US international policy positions since President Ike (da good Commander In Chief) and these values and verities which deviate not a whit from 'market values' lay behind each Chief Executive policy and each Military Deployment bill of orders. Take that up with Jung and observe him stick that in his Eternal Fount of Shared Wisdom (see Jamenta, Mary Maxwell and Vin LoPresti above...) and then smoke it, passing his pipe around all assembled at the Roosevelt Institute that den of Commies!
Move along electoral pedestrian, your choices will be made for you yet again regardless of who you vote for....The up-side has been unprecedented stability and wealth concentration for the 1/10th of 1% of US.
Here: We can discuss amongst ourselves. Only not on a US based news broadcaster....
Source: Those Commies and Stalinists at the Roosevelt Institute:
https://rooseveltinstitute.org/publications/concentrated-markets-concentrated-wealth/
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Agreed that US foreign policy had been headed toward war and interventionism since way before; my main point is that up until now there was at least a *pretense* that this was for less sadistic aims. Now, the rhetoric is also in a "we kick the Iranians when they're down, no international law" manner, which I'm curious about. Is it because most people are so unaware of the world that such simplistic "Iran bad" is sufficient for them? I have never voted, I don't believe that the system will ever incentivize or even allow an anti-war candidate--peace is not on the ballot.
I also agree that there has been a consistent consolidation of wealth and power for those who already exist as the top of the economic hierarchy. But the question is, how would one stop this, or get out of it?
'Is it because most people are so unaware of the world that such simplistic "Iran bad" is sufficient for them?'
Not most, it is enough for 27%. Their role in life is to hate whomever authority tells them to hate.
That sums it up perfectly.
The Israeli strategy is simple - to destroy Iran as a state, they force Iran to retaliate by destroying what leverage they have.
If you kill the hostages, the hostage taker's leverage evaporates.
Israel has lots of experience in killing hostages.
I'd agree fully except Israel is not going to destroy Iran as a State, I do agree that Israel has lots of experience killing hostages. This time I fully believe that Israel has bitten off more than it can chew.
Well, that is the Israeli goal.
Agreed but it would be nice to see them fail for once.
I share your dilemma, Caitlin. But, just in the past couple of weeks, I've turned into a warrior for peace. I know that the world cannot possibly be peaceful until Israel is dismantled and Trump and his evil companions are pushing up daisies.
I'm amazed at how terribly bad it had to get for people to understand the huge shift that has to come.
So now I'm putting into mind that happens as soon as possible. And then we can rebuild a world of people who care for each other.
"I know that the world cannot possibly be peaceful until Israel is dismantled and Trump and his evil companions are pushing up daisies."
Nah, man.
Duopoly, energy hoarders, mainstream media owners and mouthpieces, food and water ghouls, house collectors, industrial poison-spewers, banksters, "investors", "insurers", animal abusers, health, religion, charity and education scammers and all of their guards, protectors, infiltrators and button-men.
Every. Single. One of these narcissistic, anti-life motherfuckers has got to go.
I agree, you can't just skim the surface and hope the rest of those you mentioned will creep away. How to get rid of them all is a different matter.
I made the same mistake: oh no, Trump won''t bomb oil/gas infrastructure for fear of raising gas prices more but Israel bombed the largest gas field in the world! Oh, what a contradiction!
And then I found that 94% of that gas was for domestic use and so it would not cause a global supply shock on the global market. It will only cause more suffering of ordinary Iraninas, just as Trump's blocade of oil to Cuba is causing massive suffering, on the debunked idea that when people have suffered enough, they will choose a regime beneficial to those who made them suffer.
So it is not the global energy shock at stake with this IDF strike but another step towards causing massive suffering of ordinary people. And the 6% that is exported goes mainly to Turkey, not a factor in global gas prices. And......gas is not transportable like oil so it plays only a small role in the global market , as it is used mostly for local markets, not the international arena, due to difficulties in shipping gas.
The danger is that attacking energy infrastructure could spread, Trump might adopt it, and it could expand into a broader energy disruption.
Locally, gas has risen $1.20 a gallon since the war started. This means inflation, Feds will not cut rates, more unemployment, Trump will have to lie even more to mask his fear of being exposed as the worst President in the entire universe. And behind it all, the Epstein scandal, erased by war, lurking, haunting, festering.
Apparently you've never heard of LNG carriers: ships that transport liquified natural gas. It's become a major energy market. e.g., Europe buys LNG as it refuses to buy Russian gas from the pipelines.
I think Europe is going to rethink buying Russian energy. They won't have a choice if they want a functional economy. Although the politicians and the media there have definitely classified Russia as an existential threat since the Ukrainian offensive. Which is fucking absurd.
Europeans will do whatever they're told. These are the people who invested The Good German archetype.
Not absurd. Brussels is owned by Blackrock et al. It was a business decision to take that stance, and the EU commission was just following orders.
Sorry. Meant absurd about the threat, not absurd about the decision making process, however dubious.
Apparently you are ignorant of the difficulties and cost of transporting natural gas:
If you were aware of this, you would understand why it is mostly a local market product...."Cost comparison (big picture)
Factor Oil Natural Gas
Transport form Liquid (easy) Gas (difficult)
Infrastructure Moderate Very high
Long-distance Cheap Expensive
Global flexibility High Limited
That is why "Oil is a global commodity
Gas is often a regional commodity
👉 Because gas is harder to move, prices vary much more by location> And that is why in Iran 94% of the natural gas is for domestic use, and 6% exported (by pipe) to nearby countries like Turkey.
"Gas is expensive to liquefy and move
Pipelines are cheaper for neighbors
Many countries:
produce and use gas domestically
don’t export at all
⚖️ Compare to oil
Oil: ~60–70% traded globally by sea
Gas: ~25–30% traded (mostly LNG)
And that is why the destruction of the Iranian gas field by the IDF will not impact global gas prices because none of it is shipped into the global market.
Pepe Escobar said this morning that there are over 700 LNG carriers stuck on either side of the Strait of Hormuz, unavailable for global commerce. Obviously gas prices will go up with oil prices. (With that many very expensive ships and the incredible infrastructure in Quatar to liquify the gas, this trade is obviously economic.) The destruction of some of the Quatari gas facilities, in retaliation for the Israeli bombing of the Iranian gas facilities, will have longer term impacts on global gas prices.
Good. About time the colonizing, genocidal, thieving West learns there will be limits to how much others on this earth are willing to take. They're done.
Welcome to interesting times! We are definitely living in a funhouse, which statement or even image, is true, or are they all false. There are still a few hold outs banging the war drums, so keep up the good work, and we the choir don't mind hearing the same sermon yet another time.
Psychopathic genociders! The Pentagon, rather Pentagram, is now asking for $ 200 billion to fight Iran in an illegal, undeclared war that WE, repeat, WE started on behalf of Israel. This is WAAAY beyond imsanity! It is treason!
200 billion isn't going to cover it, especially if you take into account the now damaged air bases, radars etc; that Iran had warned Trump and Co that it would target if they started anything.
They also gave full warning to the arab countries supporting Israel and the USA, that if Iran's oil and gas were hit then those countries allowing USA to use their countries would have their own oil and gas reserves hit. Proving if nothing else, it is very expensive all round to do the bidding of the US.
Retaliatory strikes...on other vassal states. What a loss for the US. If you think this is waking people up in any meaningful way, you’re kidding yourself. This isn’t a moment of reckoning, it’s business as usual, just louder.
The US is using the countries in the middle east as service stations through which to fight wars which it refuses to host on its own soil. The cost isn’t paid in Washington, Des Moines or Miami, it’s paid in the so-called “allies” turned into permanent frontlines, where entire populations live under the shadow of decisions made an ocean away by the prefects who own their governments.
The Middle East has basically been turned into a battlefield. And that distance is exactly what keeps people in the U.S. and the West comfortable. For them, this war is abstract, something to scroll past, debate, or ignore. It’s a headline, not a lived reality. They don’t know what it means to hear an explosion and wonder if the next one is yours, to drive down a street where buildings can vanish in seconds. They don’t feel it, so they don’t fight it.
And that’s the point. As long as the violence stays “over there,” opposition will remain weak, performative, and easy to shrug off. Which is exactly what we’re seeing right now. For most Americans, it’s just another distant conflict.
At best, you get mild disapproval and that mainly because people are inconvenienced with higher gas prices and therefore for selfish reasons. Very few will talk about the humanity of Iranians and ask themselves why it is ok for us to just attack this country and kill its people and declare them terrorists. No one is questioning why we are killing the leadership of other nations and then refer to it as "elimination" like it was pest control.
They dont ask these questions because they don't care. For many this is all a foregone conclusion that they take for granted. They accept the premise and only object to the methods and timing and who is doing it.
At worst, you get armchair patriots cheering destruction like it’s a highlight reel. But none of this is opposition or eye opening to anyone who isn't already aware.
So, the solution? Remind them about the Two Towers, which is only a tiny example of really being bombed. So imagine that all day, every day, for months, or years and all because some butter decides to help a rogue state kill more people flatten more property, cause chaos for so many, simply because they want to rule the world - to make everyone else their slaves.
Good luck to Iran, I say. Flatten the bastards and total finish any hope of their dream ever coming even close.
And Israel isn’t really paying the price either. Compare Israeli deaths to those in Iran and Lebanon. Same with infrastructure— no comparison.
I would imagine that Israeli deaths are way higher than we are told, those in control of Israel could give Trump lessons on how to lie and that is saying a lot.
Israel never allows outsiders to know what and who has been destroyed, it's how they've always been.
yeah exactly. They are just killing Iranian leaders left and right and have murdered thousands of people while themselves sustaining casualties in double digits and everyone is like "yaay, Iran is really showing everyone how it's done". Like what the fuck is wrong with you people? I just watched a video of an Iranian woman begging god to save her and then the bomb hit and she was gone. But yeah Iran is winning..yeah.uh-huh
Well articulated, this is exactly what I’ve been struggling to express.
"No one"? Certainly not. I wonder what the percentage is.
very few people really question the underlying premise. They just take for granted that we have the right to kill leaders of other countries because they are "bad" and we are "good". How many of the average people in your life talk about what is happening in Cuba you think? How many truly ask themselves if Iran really is
all that bad. It is not no one, sure, but it is so little as to barely make a dent
With mainstream media 100% a propaganda operation it is hard to tell what some percentage of ordinary people think.
"The media’s not playing along, US allies are telling Trump to get stuffed when he asks for military assistance with the Strait of Hormuz, and the public’s not buying the lies".
A real conundrum, isn't it, Caitlin! But a good one. For years you ( and good scribes like you ) have been writing to reveal the truth. At last when it will hit the lifestyle of westerners - not the savage brutality of Israel/US, not the bodies piling up, not the starving dying children, not the Palestinian genocide, not the gaslighting of the compliant media - but the fact that it will dent their lifestyle - the 'fortunate ones' - are taking notice.
If this happened right from the start when two bloodthirsty madmen went on a rampage, just imagine how many lives might have been saved, how many children would have been spared the anguish, have a little something to eat, how many human habitats wouldn't have been reduced to rubble? the total blame is on the western ruling class, the oligarchs they serve, the media class who fertilised the ground for all the lies they concocted.
It took one nation, the courageous Iran to hit back ( at enormous cost to itself ) for the cowards to cringe.
But as Bertolt Brecht wrote " ... don't rejoice too soon, as the womb the monster crawled from is still going strong.... " ( Sorry comrades the quotation may not be exact - but this is what I remember...!).
Exact quote or not I agree with it but I also have faith that Iran are fully aware of that beast and have not yet used all their arrows in their bow as yet. They wait for an appropriate moment when Israel and US thinks they are finally getting somewhere, then let loose again.
You do not get to survive for thousands of years without having the necessary knowledge of what to do when countries with respect to being, are still in diapers and attack you.
"Iran escalated the cyberwar, wiping out a major U.S. medical company and erasing data from 200,000 of its devices. Big Tech could be next. Google, Amazon, Microsoft are in jeopardy. Here’s what this means for you:"
Iran declares war on your data
The Kim Komando Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9H8hUH4UfQ
Really? How do you/we prove it was Iran? I will do my best to take a look to see what you're talking about.
The one thing I will give you full marks for, like myself you care enough to go back through all the comments, you found and liked my original comment, due to time in the UK it's often not seen with being back at the bottom of the pile. I've noticed other comments just before or after mine rarely get a like or reply to challenge what someone has put. I guess for that fact alone, I'll take a look at your link once I've got through some other things I have to do.
Israel is a dead country walking a tightrope. Can the US afford to keep it up?
Unfortunately, they seem pretty committed to taking everyone else out with them. That's what their undeclared nuclear program is for, if I understand it correctly. Ending life on Earth if the Jewish state fails. Truly abominable shit.
Correct. Whether when the time came they would actually do that is to be seen, killing others to people like them is easy, killing yourself is a completely different thing.
Singing: "These times are a-changing!"
It was the best of times...it was the worst of times, but at least things are moving. Americans have had their eyes opened, and they're not following the lead of those in power. I'll take this as a good sign. But we can't rest--we need to keep pointing out the evils of the military-industrial-capitalist system. We have to shoot down the wars forever.
I wrote a book that included an imaginary book for which the first line was "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, then it got worse."
The people in the US have had their eyes opened to their own lack of funds to kick back and ignore anything else, they still don't care about what is happening to those countries that have or are having death and destruction rained down on them. Give them a quick government payment and they'll sink back into their apathy.