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Vin LoPresti's avatar

As many have expressed before me, I want AI to mow my lawn and wash my dishes, not compose my music or my prose. To desire my dehumanization is illogical, thank you Mr. Spock.

And with Francesca Albanese's revelations about the filthy investments of the international corporate world, especially Big Tech, in genocide, I frankly don't want to be anywhere near anything they offer me.

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Christopher Rixman's avatar

If the same corporations profiting from genocide are also building the tools shaping our minds and voices, why should we trust anything they offer in the name of ‘progress’?

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Lisa Savage's avatar

This, right here.

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Levi Tate's avatar

Can Israeli Intelligence influence Grok and it's output?

Can an Israeli AI influence Grok and it's output?

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/07/02/best-selling-apps-made-by-israeli-spies-revealed/

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Contrarian 33's avatar

Vin

That's the saddest part of this kind of advanced technology. The ones that are promoting and using it are the very people that have created and profited from the everyday plague of social media in place right now and who have already created daily time wasting and unproductive activities for multi-millions around the world in the use of their "products".

So not only will they be the beneficiaries of any further expansion and perhaps the daily use by everybody of AI today, which is bound to come in many forms yet, but they continue to benefit by way of profits in any further expansion after that. What that could be, doesn't bear thinking about.

Slow down world and let us oldies catch up.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Con

This “oldie” has no intention of catching up. I like my life just fine the way it is.

FUCK AI. It can’t run my farm for me, nor can it affect my ability to put pencil to paper and produce a recognizable image.

It can’t affect Caitlin’s talent for writing what’s contained in her heart and soul…not to mention her own artistic abilities.

It cannot affect Vin’s talent for producing the music of his preference.

In other words it cannot, nor will ever, be able to replicate the human condition. AI can’t go outdoors, stick its nose in a clump of honeysuckle and deeply inhale the sweet scent.

Again, FUCK AI.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Lovely thoughts, gyp.. Let's ask AI to go out and grow us some nice Roma tomatoes to can for winter tomato sauces, then season them just right -- sure it'll know how to write a recipe once we teach it. But can it stand at the stove stirring, tasting and adjusting spices in a HUMAN VISCERAL EXPERIENCE?? And even if it could, through a robot, would I want that experience deleted from my life? Fuck NO!!

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gypsy33's avatar

Lol Vin… don’t want no fuckin’ AI makin’ MY spaghetti sauce 😁

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tre peperoncini's avatar

When did what we want ever matter?

We want peace.

We want healthcare.

We want a clean environment.

We want a future for our children.

We want our elected representatives to represent us.

We wanted Trump to drain the swamp.

We wanted him to end the wars.

We wanted Biden to bring back empathy and compassion.

We wanted Obama to give us hope and change.

What we got was doped and shortchanged.

Mick said, “You can’t always get what you want.”

But even if we try sometimes, we can`t get no satisfaction

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I think Mick knew that no satisfaction was the main operant principle. And that getting what you need wasn't going to come from institutional sources.

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tre peperoncini's avatar

Yes, no doubt Sir Mick figured that out long ago, he is able purchase what he needs or wants. I`ll never the time he bought his mate a get out of jail fail pass , by singing for the blind, justice was and still remains deaf and dumb.

An article on AI is a good distraction, I look forward to the day when Gork, and other AIs post their articles on Substack directly, without need of human proxy front.

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denise ward's avatar

LIke!

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Landru's avatar

Well said. I do mow my own lawn though as punishment : )

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JennyStokes's avatar

Plant Moss. No more mowing.

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gypsy33's avatar

Nice idea Jenny, but lots of shade and moisture required for that to work.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Moss never dies. Mine goes brown in the Summer (occasional watering) green again by Autumn. It is also heavy in Oxygen.

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Landru's avatar

I do leave a small 20'x 30' strip that goes without mowing for the bees and the butterflies that still exist. No fireflies for three years now : (

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Landru's avatar

If I still had my Father's farm I would do nothing and let my feet make that path : ) However where I am, I am lucky I am only hated for what seems like mandatory herbicide and pesticide use. Seriously people do that still. We are on a relatively shallow well too. : (

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Bob Martin's avatar

For me, the only good AI is no AI. I'll use my own mind, thank you very much.

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Christopher Rixman's avatar

If we keep trading human effort for machine convenience, at what point do we stop being the author of our own lives?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

The question/concern is not really about 'trading human effort for machine convenience'. The history of civilizations has been about making human lives easier (and more enjoyable) by creating machines (of all kinds) to aid humans.

The REAL DANGER of AI (and LLMs) are twofold (IMO) ->

(1) The inequality (and knowledge) gap will increase due to unequal access to technologies such as AIs and LLMs. The gaps between the 'haves and have-nots' will widen, creating the associated set of problems that come with increasing inequality. The ones that use this technology to AUGMENT their thinking (versus OUTSOURCING their thinking - as most people are currently seen to be doing) will leap ahead of the others. This will lead to a higher CONSOLIDATION of power in the hands of fewer and fewer people. You can see where I'm going with this line of reasoning...

(2) Instead of utilizing AI (and LLM) technologies to better themselves, most people seem to be using these tools as shortcuts, easing of 'cognitive loads', outsourcing of creative energies (think of this as outsourcing stuff to AI instead of to cheaper labor in poorer nations), and LESS utilization of cognitive processing - leading to a slow atrophy of mental abilities (and everything that comes along with this).

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Michael's avatar

People tend to bring up ‘the Terminator’ or Matrix movies as the logical dystopian result of too much technology but I tend to agree with you, the danger is cognitive atrophy and this could be generational, I think the movie ‘Wall-E’ might be a more compelling warning.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Yes, the 'Terminator' scenario doesn't scare me - since what scares me more is 'human stupidity' and how hackable/psychologically manipulable humans truly seem to be. We seem to be our own worst enemies (as evidenced by the leaders we select and look up to, climate change, etc.).

I loved the movie 'Wall-E' - and I agree, that scenario is FAR MORE likely than 'skynet' (though I reckon we already have some version of it currently) or 'terminator robots' (again, we already have robot dogs - https://inews.co.uk/news/world/robodogs-replacing-troops-gaza-war-2940487 or https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/47678/20231215/israel-defense-forces-employ-robot-dogs-assist-soldiers-gaza.htm currently).

Another link -> "US Army testing roll out of gun-mounted robot dogs in Middle East" (https://www.the-independent.com/tech/us-army-middle-east-robot-dogs-b2623027.html or https://www.newarab.com/news/robodogs-part-israels-army-robots-gaza-war)

Actually, come to think of it, 'machine-gun robot-dogs' DO scare me, though not sure how much.

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Ronald Reed's avatar

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, the fool/AI has the knowledge of everything and the understanding of nothing.

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Landru's avatar

Very well said. I am living that now. I am finding students that no longer know how to solve simple problems without deferring to our overlords. The frightening thing, we know this yet we as I see are doing nothing but promoting these tools as the equivalent to learning. Logic is lost and left to the Landru's of of the world. Yes the username is a problem now isn't it : (

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

What I see most about the youngest generation is more troubling still. I see more and more parents pushing baby carts without making eye contact with their infants. Without talking to them, but, instead, looking at, and speaking, if at all, to their phones.

What do we/they think those children are learning? Because they do learn every second of the day. I'd think they are learning the phone is the most important thing in the world. They, themselves, are somewhere much less important, as are other people, and nature. They also learn that they don't need to listen when their parent speaks, because why would they expect the parent's speech have anything to do with them?

What chance to they have to learn about body language, and facial expressions, since what they see in their parents isn't connected to anything they see or are experiencing in the real world?

Add these concerns to the ones you mention, and the future is likely far more fraught than we even can imagine. That is if this species even has a future, of which I am not at all sure.

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George McFetridge's avatar

The Psyop foregrounds population reduction; thus no good future for children of today proscribed, and we're all responsible.

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martin's avatar

it is indeed another tool that will likely exacerbate inequality (and improve military oppression) as it emerges from the capitalist base into the superstructure and reinforces the base again. deepseek is kinda 'open source' though. the global south could build it's own ai (though they'd have a lot of catching up to do). anyways, the genie is out of the bottle, bit like tv, press-freedom, the internet, social media, wikipedia, ... engage with extreme scepticism, always remember where it's coming from.

seeing the successful gaslighting that has been happening around the world, the growing apathy, the primitive subservience and resignation, quite some of the mental atrophy is already here (that is the 'spirit'), there is indeed the danger that ai will reinforce the decline (also purely cognitive).

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martin's avatar

in how far are we still the author of our own lives rn?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

100% agree! I knew there was a reason I liked you (and your comments), Bob Martin.

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Bob Martin's avatar

Thanks, Chang, and likewise! 😀

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denise ward's avatar

Like!

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SafePlace's avatar

I prefer humanity, thank you. Any day. No matter the inconvenience or cost. I don’t need the fucking AI 🤖.

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Mike Rube's avatar

AI is a lie. What is being called AI are simply machines that organize data, provided by the operators, using specific criteria, also provided by the operators. A customer, using an interpretive device, keyboard, voice, whatever, submits a requests that the machines can then respond too. It’s not magic. It’s data processing. The real twists are the contributions, made by the operators, regarding the data provided and the search criteria. They provide the “humanity”, both light and dark. Not the machines. The operator’s determine the politics. And they are human beings! With agendas! No magic! The illusion that the massive amount of data involved creates a kind of transcendent intelligence is a lie. It’s still data processing shaped by the search criteria, designed by human beings with human agendas. In other words; this is capitalism and you are both the customer and the product. They want your money and your obedience. These are the same people that used these same machines to track people then kill them and their entire family. Without hesitation or the slightest remorse.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

Exactly.

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Landru's avatar

That same argument is made about humans. Neurons storing code made by other Neurons. I wrote a story Dirty Dozen to Mars that deals with that question. Can Androids dream of electric sheep is an amazing work by many at that time considered mentally ill Phillip K. Dick. I wish I had an opportunity to have had coffee with him.

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Zmurrad's avatar

Welcome to the Brave New World of heartless manipulation and control. AI is generated by the mindset of its creators. It is not objective reality. The objective to turn us into ‘bots’ and make our own faculties redundant.

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Lucas Nascario's avatar

I think it's also controlled by demons at a certain level. Advanced tech is like magic and witchcraft.

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Mike Rube's avatar

I disagree. There is magic, in the soil, in the waters, in every living thing. Not in AI.

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Lucas Nascario's avatar

Yeah, point taken.

I will put it like this: Satan can't create anything inherently good. So stuff like AI is ultimately from Satan, whereas anything natural is magical in the sense that it's objectively beneficial, has unexplainable qualities we continue to learn about; from God, only He can do that. From fresh air to grass to plants to animals we had everything we needed prior to the industrial revolution.

Honey is almost pure sugar, yet it's a superfood, and doesn't rot the teeth - only God can pull that off, man couldn't make something like that. It's a miracle, it's magical in nature.

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Mike Rube's avatar

Sorry, we have different beliefs.

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Lucas Nascario's avatar

I understand that.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

We have heartless, brainless leaders and a ruling class devoid of any good human qualities of sympathy, empathy, generosity or compassion. Who needs AI on top of that.....

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

Elected by heartless, brainless voters.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"We have heartless, brainless leaders..."

I would rephrase that to say that we have 'smart leaders' that know how to take advantage of 'brainless humans' by utilize technologies (such as AI) to speed up the process of exploiting and oppressing them. I agree with the rest of what you say.

(In the context of this article, by 'brainless humans' I mean humans that are already succumbing to the 'wow factor' of LLMs, as you will observe in some of the comments on today's article).

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Chang, In this neoliberal capitalist and Trumpian world sliding fast into fascism, I cannot imagine that AI will be used for good. And the "smart leaders" we have will certainly use it to consolidate their power with no thought to the social, environmental, moral, and ethical harm that they are currently fostering on humanity and the world. It will be another tool in colonising us even further. Described as " A powerful tool that has our socially and culturally biased intelligence woven into it while seemingly lacking any real wisdom".

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Precisely Indu! I'm glad you understand the dangers of AI (and LLMs). I wish more people did...

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Lucas Nascario's avatar

Well said by the way!

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Lucas Nascario's avatar

"TDS! Trump is a neoconservative populist!"

(Just kidding, of course).

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Caitlin, as most technological developments (over the last 75+ years) have shown to be tools usurped and co-opted by the Capitalist class to increase 'profit-making opportunities', so to will LLMs (Large Language Models - a subset of the massive field of AI) follow suit.

And this time around, unlike previous times, most people will choose to use the tools of their OWN volition (by buying into the narratives and hype of everything AI). The level of critical thinking is already abysmal, and with people OUTSOURCING their 'ordinary' thinking/comprehension/etc. to such tools, humanity IS moving backwards. (Being in the technology industry and interacting with many techies and non-techies, I already see this happening currently).

Who needs fascism and authoritarianism/totalitarianism when 'ordinary people' dumb themselves down for the benefit of TPTB (without realizing their unconscious acceptance of such technology tools) right?

[PS: You might notice that some of your Substack readers have already bitten the 'LLM and AI' bug (praising it and using it in comment responses, and sometimes even to write articles). What can I say? A sucker seems to be born every minute...]

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John Turcot's avatar

A few months ago I asked AI a short but difficult question… a few days later I asked the same question to the same AI.. not surprisingly, I got a different answer… close, but not the same..

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Yes, that's how LLMs work. They 'create' answers on-the-fly (through various algorithms that are built on a foundation of amalgamation of vast amounts of data and rules that structure this data for human consumption/comprehension).

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Susan T's avatar

You ask "How much do you want to feel the earth beneath your feet, the wind in your hair, and the sacred thrum of existence in your veins?" I want to, NEED to feel those things every day. Without them, I think my mind would turn to mush. That's how I feel sometimes when I sit in front of my computer too many hours in the day.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I would like to have an earth that has clean earth and air and oceans. I entirely dislike the word 'Want.'

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MakeTheWorldSafeForDiversity's avatar

If a computer can replace a human, how dehumanizing was the job the human doing before? Were humans really doing that much critical thinking? How much work in society is just busy work that is meant to waste a humans time? Every time technology allows humans to do more things in less time why does the extra value go to the employer rather than the employee?

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Patrick Powers's avatar

I'd say the wars are largely makework, hopeless tasks to keep the masses busy and entertained. Blowing up the Nordstreem pipelines created jobs in the USA. Jobs in missile factories, etc. It's all there in George Orwell's 1984, where by the way porn is written by AI.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

Oh no no no no. I live in West Virginia, I'm an environmentalist and I know exactly why they blew up those pipelines, It's because the US gas fracking industry was losing its viability due to too much product and too little demand--it wanted foreign markets, where the price of gas was MUCH higher, but compressing it to ship across the ocean, then re-gassing it to pipe to use points adds much to the price (also adds much to the greenhouse gas footprint but who cares about that). Couldn't compete with Russian gas. When the Ukraine war started, Germany finally succumbed to pressure to refuse the Nordstream II pipeline, just as it was completed--but it was still there, viable, and Nordstream I was pumping. Once the two were destroyed, Germany (and the rest of Europe had to buy the much more expensive American gas, which seriously damaged their economy. Mission accomplished.

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Landru's avatar

BTW, I am working with a young intern from Aerospace at Uni. Virginia. She is a treat. We talked about after (if) grad school what her options are if we in the u.s. continue defunding science. I was happy to hear the military isn't an option. : )

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Landru's avatar

Both can be true my friend and likely are. The last gas field on land in Denmark no longer produces at a profitable rate. Love to hear more about your experiences there. : )

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

30 years ago it was all about the coal industry, and mountaintop removal mining. Now that's largely phased out because coal can't compete economically, especially what coal is still produced here. But the state legislature still tries to give the industry a gift every year, and the two Ohio-based companies that supply electricity here have gotten away with making our ratepayers pay more and more so they can own unprofitable coal plants. Joe Manchin just retired after a lifetime in government, representing supposedly WV but actually fossil fuel companies. It's terrible what's being done to NEPA, but a key thing people complain about is loss of public hearings--but I've been to at least 30, heard a great deal of often impassioned, well-argued, and varied reason a permit should be denied, in at least one case unanimously--I've never seen a permit denied. It's just a formality, but it does delay things. I've said being an environmentalist in WV is likely being a gay rights advocate in Iran, which is an exaggeration as they don't actually kill us. So far.

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CK's avatar

The extra value goes to the employer because the employer sets the pay rate. Individual employees have no bargaining power. A strong labor union has bargaining power.

Employee-owned companies can operate democratically, with all value shared by all.

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Landru's avatar

A question many in the IT world are asking as companies like Intel layoff thousands. Chips building chips.

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Marquis's avatar

AI is merely a reflection of humanity or the lack of it. It isn't human, but we have given the wealth of information that we have collected in the history of humanity. AI, in and of itself isn't the problem, the problem remains ourselves, collectively, as a species. How much humanity we choose to lose is exactly proportional to what we would otherwise choose. Unfortunately, ultimately is the fact that it is obvious that many wish to use AI to harm humanity... AI is merely a reflection of humanity, the ones it learns from...Garbage in...Garbage out...

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Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Any “far” is too far, for what you surrender is control of your mind, handing control to a machine and surrendering the remains of your personality.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

"We can choose to let AI do our critical thinking for us if we want to. "

I don't want it to--I refuse to let a program like Grok think for me, write for me, create for me. I want to do things myself. I guess that's why I'll never have a million Substack followers, but at least I'll still have my pride and a functioning brain.

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Landru's avatar

Not that you need confirmation, but yes you do : )

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Gnuneo's avatar

"MechaHitler" lollol

Musk: "AARGH!! IT'S SAYING THE QUIET BIT OUT LOUD!!!!" :'D :'D

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tre peperoncini's avatar

News flash: It’s the Age of Aquarius!

Well so say Google’s AI , further more its says; , "It`s a time of significant change and transformation, potentially marking a shift away from the values and characteristics of the previous Age of Pisces. While the exact start date is debated, many astrologers suggest it's a gradual transition, with some pointing to a period around the late 20th and early 21st centuries as a time of major shifts."

Personally, I think it's the Age of Precarious, and it started on September 11, 2001. It was a sudden transition into an age filled with surveillance, war, and a suspension of realities, one we eagerly accepted in fear. Having given up our right to question the lies of the belligerent authorities, we naturally gave up our ability to think critically and lost all sense of reality. So here we sit, stand, or squat, precariously on the edge of another world war.

So no we do not "have to choose how much of our humanity we want to keep." We can't give it away, sell it, or abandon it. But we can, and do ignore it, just as we do our conscience.

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SW's avatar

The more poorly educated kids are the more they will use AI. Online classes are a joke - a bad joke - but they’re here to stay. I worked with a nurse who “graduated” from the online University of Phoenix and she was flat out dangerous.

Many have made the decision already without realizing it to use AI in some form instead of their own resources and, like any capacity that’s not nurtured, it will wither and blow away. We’ve been here for a while and what we’re seeing now is an acceleration.

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Diana van Eyk's avatar

Good questions. AI seems like it can be a useful tool, but not in a capitalist neoliberal society.

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AnF's avatar

LLM's and the like can be very useful tools for consolidating data or providing quick summary lists for people working in those fields.

These tools are absolutely shit with any situation where they don't have a preset field of data to parse through (and often just make up info to use since they don't have any).

I fucking hate capitalism.

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Harry Ziboo's avatar

I'd say , better in no society.

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jamenta's avatar

The human psyche is the real problem we have right now. If you don't fix (or manage it), doesn't matter whether we have AI or not.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

I am much more threatened by natural intelligence as opposed to the artificial kind. People are used to the threat of natural intelligence, they accept it as normal.

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jamenta's avatar

It's astonishing what people can accept as "normal". Although many never have much of a choice in their life. What we have here in the states now is nothing more than a modern day type of mass slavery - Americans are chained to their low paying jobs, for a good portion of their entire life. And then they die. What was it all about?

AI could help free the masses from slavery, but instead we have a system run by a few obscenely rich people who will simply use AI to enslave Americans even more. At least that's the way it appears to be headed.

Technology can do some wondrous things for humanity (and it already has) but it also can be abused by unscrupulous rich assholes, who have an absurd level of power in the US.

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Lucas Nascario's avatar

The middle class masses are the ones using their technology, trusting them, and giving them control because they trust them and don't understand anything they're doing like mind control and social engineering. The average person is at fault.

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Harry Ziboo's avatar

100% Right on!

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George McFetridge's avatar

Absolutely.

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