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El dragon's avatar

NAZI's tried to hide their crimes, Israelis are bragging about them. So yeah, even worse than NAZI's.

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JennyStokes's avatar

We did not have the internet then so we don't know if the Nazi's bragged?

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Susan T's avatar

We do have accounts by people who were there at the time. I think they did brag, but I cannot give you any links or any particular books. They hated Jews, Roma, gay people, people of colour, and more. They wanted Aryan people in their world. Nobody else.

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JennyStokes's avatar

That maybe so Susan and who am I to deny this, however we now have RECORDED details of IDF soldiers singing and dancing when they have wiped out Palestinians.

One thing that occurs to me is why are we still talking about the Holocaust?

The Jewish/Zionist have been on this propaganda for years and we are not allowed to forget it.

I do wonder how the Palestinian genocide will play out in History.

To my mind we are coming to a 'schism' where the internet will be taken over by 'neo-cons' (whatever you want to call them) and the internet will only tell lies.

Some reporters will be brave and lose their lives by recording facts.

Scott Ritter to my mind has a target on his head.

IF you remember he was one of the people who went to look for Nuclear weapons in Iran and Iraq.

There were NO Nuclear weapons. He clarified this in a report which was not used by GW Bush. The US bombed the shit out of Iraq anyway.

YOU people in the US could not have cared less. YOU were shopping and did not vote.

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John Turcot's avatar

Jenny,

"I do wonder how the Palestinian genocide will play out in History.". If we don't get our act together collectively and learn to live on the planet in harmony and understanding, no one will be around to read history.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Thanks John.

What really irks me is that I do not have the energy I once had.

When I came to France everything was rosy until we got a right wing/facist Mayor in our Town.

I fought with my friends...he is still here fucking up our Town.

I do not have the energy any more.

If someone asks me to speak I will.

It is now up to the young people .............

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John Turcot's avatar

I agree.... Greta Thunberg for one could save us from ourselves, if only she knew how. She is young, but all young get old. It's not as much about age as it is about asking questions as to why we are unable to change much of anything. Noam Chomsky was recently asked what 3 things were the most important in life... to which he answered: The first is MONEY, the second is MONEY, and mentioned that he had forgotten the third...

If MONEY is indeed the most important thing in our lives, then don't we need to ask: 'What's wrong with MONEY? '

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Susan T's avatar

Get off your pedestal. YOU people in France or the rest of Europe didn't care much either.

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JennyStokes's avatar

OH Susan you knowledge of History is so fu95ed.

We got rid of our NOBLE KINGS and Queens and became a Republic.

What the hell are ~YOU doing.....sitting in your armchairs (with your guns) not daring to go out in the streets to protest your malign Govt.

The time is coming when the world does not believe US lies.

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Susan T's avatar

First I am not in the US, second the people in the US are not the government. What a stupid waste of time arguing over who is the most corrupt, Europe or the USA. They are both corrupt.

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Karl Vort Poetry's avatar

I urge you to read the Talmud, it’s all in there how all of humanity not just Muslims are human animals and worse.

Jews think they are the chosen ones that is the biggest brag of all time.

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

There is no question that Israel and WWII German were/are BOTH nationalist AND socialist - call Israel Socialist Nationalism if you want.

But strong nationalism in people does lead to bragging

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bill wolfe's avatar

Neither Nazi's nor Zionists were or are Socialists. Just stop the garbage.

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russian_bot's avatar

Congrats, billy, you just found out that things are often not what they called. Or people are what they call themselves.

Back to Nazis: NSDAP - Nazionalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Not only it's socialist, it's also the party of workers'. Chew on that, wolfie.

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bill wolfe's avatar

You are either ignorant or a liar, or both. Nazi's HATED the socialists more than they hated Jews.

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russian_bot's avatar

NSDAP - Nazionalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.

I didn't make it up, wolfie.

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GenEarly's avatar

Nazis hated "Communists". Nazis were Socialists. Fascism combines Government and Crony Corportism as in the Volks (Peoples) wagen as one example.

The political spectrum goes from Anarchy on one side to Tyranny on the other extremity. Inbetween Traditionally in the USA there were Libertarians, DemocRats, Republicans, & Independents.

Just fill in the blanks as You see it since the "Traditional" is no longer extant.

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GordM's avatar

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a socialist."...etc

Read a book

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russian_bot's avatar

NSDAP - look it up, read the book.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

After stating your first comment, you make that claim? To accuse you of being dumber than a box of rocks insult the gravel in my driveway……

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russian_bot's avatar

So, dickhead, what is your point?

Why are you responding to me while having blocked me? Pissing in your huggies, coward?

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

This says it too

Along with the title National Socialism

https://i.redd.it/3vj8eba2rb411.jpg

Very few states / political parties lie about what they are in their title

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GordM's avatar

Right? And the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, is "democratic republic" chosen to rule by the "people".

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GenEarly's avatar

Good Point!!! Politics is seldom what it "Appears" to be, sometimes it's just all illusion until the GrubMint of any "Ism" comes a knocking down your door. Currently the FIB/ATF are the new Stasi/KGB in this USSA.

Like Climate, Countries "Change" ........ Eh. Comrades???

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

You are reasoning with the equivalent of a cognitively impaired toddler. Please do not be disappointed if you don’t achieve the desired results…..

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

People's republic

And we know that is like people owning property

It means The State

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

What? You’re screaming that you don’t know jack shit about global body politik, or it’s history and that you love to talk about shit you haven’t wrap your head around. Without saying “I don’t know jack shit about the global body politic and it’s history, but I love to talk about shit, with confidence, that I don’t know a damn thing about”

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

If you mean foreign intervention or policing the world then I oppose it

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Susan T's avatar

Actually, you are wrong. Some Zionists do say they are socialist.

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bill wolfe's avatar

Actually, you are qrong.

The Zionists did so 40 years ago during Kibbutz movement - but not now (that's like Trump calling Biden a socialist - it totally lacks credibility)

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Susan T's avatar

I know someone who calls himself a Zionist and a socialist whether or not it lacks credibility. BTW, what does qrong mean? not quite wrong, but maybe a little bit?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Check this out: The History of "Socialist" Zionism | Leftist Zionists did the Nakba & founded Israel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehp9PZo4UR0)

i.e. The Zionists that called themselves socialists were 'FAKE' socialists. Socialism does not entail colonialism in any form.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Correct.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Nationalism is no different than patriotism which many Americans spout out endlessly while wrapping themselves in the flag!

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Nationalism and patriotism are different, though people often confuse them to mean the same/similar things.

Here is one definition that illustrates the distinction:

'Patriotism': is the feeling and expression of love for one’s home country, along with a feeling of unity with those who share those feelings.

'Nationalism': is the belief that one’s home county is superior to all others.

Here's more info: https://www.dictionary.com/e/patriotism-vs-nationalism/

To boil it down into simplistic terms: patriotism = good, nationalism = bad

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

I would only say that patriotism is historically meant to be patriotism to one's country

Not one's state/government.

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Susan T's avatar

are you saying that patriots love nature and want to keep it safe?

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

I'm saying that nationalism is about the state/government

patriotism has historically been only about the country

Is that what you mean ?

I'm not saying I agree with patriotism

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russian_bot's avatar

Rainbow also used to be thought of as a nature phenomenon.

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jamenta's avatar

I always liked Rainbows.

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martin's avatar

socialist / communist is when the workers (try to) own the means of production. All the other stuff is in essence corporatism / fascism, im(humble)o.

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

communism (and fascism) is STATE MANDATED socialism - coerced socialism if you wish

I support VOLUNTARY socialism

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martin's avatar

in definitions of communism it is often referred to as (the striving for) a moneyless, classless and stateless society. who taught you that other definition and why do you think they did that?

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

there is no question that communcism is mandated by the state

In fact Marx hopes of it "withering away"

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Not. ‘Totalitarian despotic butchers’ is the accurate verbiage.

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

I would agree but too emotional of an expression when I am trying to pass on a concept

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Paul Prendergast's avatar

The socialist bit is utter bullshit.

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

Socialism is fine IF VOLUNTARY and agreed to without the use of (state) coercion

STATE MANADTED government sucks regardless whether if it is socialism or democracy

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El dragon's avatar

True, but I am yet to see German children from the 30s or 40s singing: "Within a year we will eliminate them all.” or similar.

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russian_bot's avatar

The correspondence of Germans from the front was full of bragging along with photographs of them smiling next to hanged or shot natives.

As to German children singing - there was Hitlerjugend. They might have had a few songs to the effect.

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Just sayn's avatar

There is no bottom as to how low Zionist Israel killers will go. No ethics or morality. Just plain Genocidal murder, Ethnic Cleansing. Lets never forget that this is how they see all goyem non jews, just as human animals. And they call themselves Gods chosen! Certainly not the same God Jesus spoke of. International war crimes by the ones who always proclaiming permanent victim hood while perpetrating the most heinous crimes.

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Eleanor Robin Gaura Vila's avatar

I can't help but wonder if the jabs changed humans. Rudolph Steiner had a lot to say about vaccinations. Also Bill Gates gave lectures on modifying humans so that they would no longer have religious feelings, saying that since most wars are about religious hatred (which is false), this would promote peace. Israel is the most jabbed country in the world, and they seem to have become vicious and cruel to an unbelievable degree. Sure, its education, conditioning, circumcision, but maybe its the jabs, too.

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Just sayn's avatar

The power of suggestion, propaganda, indoctrination are immense. If anything the jabs are a biological weapon to reduce population through destruction of immune system. Israel, and most other countries are the way they are by the intentional manipulation of our belief systems via every aspect of life from cradle to grave we are manipulated by coercion, nudging, suggestions and enticement to think and act as we do. Ask any soldier about how their world view changed, how they came to join a military. Every government does it! Most US history is a mostly false narrative. The use of religious beliefs to manipulate people is as old as religion it's self. The crusades, the protestant reformation, the jews killed Jesus. Catholics killed millions in South America. The Eastern Orthodox, disagrees with Catholics. Religion is used to both unite and divide. IMO No God is blessing Israel or the US for all the crimes against humanity they are commiting in gods name, nor for the billions of people the jabs are intended to kill.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Israelis have been exhibiting this behavior for over 75 years, so it cannot be blamed on the jabs. What has changed is the ability of the Palestinians to notify the world of what is being done to them.

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Gregor McIntosh's avatar

“Vaccines bad!”

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pretzelattack's avatar

there is a lot of corruption in organization like the WHO. the whole business is murky. not that the jabs are responsible for Israel's viciousness, that was there from the start in 1948.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

But definitely the god of the Old Testament or the Torah. A vengeful angry god

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Just sayn's avatar

The story of Jezebel and the god Baal, Is interesting.

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Andrea Cherez's avatar

Totally agree. But one question about the screaming babies recording - not that I believe Israel isn’t capable of doing this, but how come there are no sounds of drones on the recording?

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Just sayn's avatar

Good question? Electric drones? Many are quiet and therefore stealthy. Distance and volume of recording vs drone?

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Whatistobedone's avatar

NEVER FORGET...

It's up to us....otherwise "they" will ALWAYS do anything and everything possible to make this Israeli legacy of GENOCIDE fade away. It's already happening. NEVER FORGET.

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Whatistobedone's avatar

Palestine: NEVER FORGET

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Susan T's avatar

I have to limit the atrocities I look at, but I think we have to look at some of them, because who could believe anyone would shoot a child in the head and then laugh? Who could believe a bunch of men would put the underwear of women they have killed and possibly raped on their heads and laugh? Who could believe a mother mocking another mother whose child had been murdered in front of her?

Voting is not helping much these days because there is nobody with the power and will to change to vote for. Those with ideas for positive change quickly become corrupted. We need another system somehow which means revolution which could mean armed resistance which is not something most can envision.

Here is an Al Jazeera interview with the people who made the film Israelismhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi6vpLPKnk0

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John Turcot's avatar

Susan,

"We need another system which somehow means revolution" .. I agree, but the problem is what happens AFTER the revolution? There have been thousands of revolutions in the past, some violent, some even peaceful, but in the end, here we are, 100 seconds from Armageddon on our imaginary Doomsday Clock. Perhaps we need to ask a few questions, including... 'What's wrong with us'. or what can we do to change things so that all Doomsday predictions can be removed from our calendars?

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

As long as humans accept the lie that we need the state to rule over us, this will not change. Power corrupts. Humans are great at many things, but ruling over fellow humans is not one of them.

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martin's avatar

indeed, one should not worry too much about (making) the revolution (happen). the way empire is behaving, it will be unavoidable. one should come together and prepare a system of working together for right after the revolution.

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John Turcot's avatar

Martin,

The biggest problem with revolutions is that humans are involved with creating the new social conditions that follow. Since there have been thousands of revolutions in the past, and nothing has basically changed with respect to the general sanity of our species, as in ever-present wars, why would anyone expect the next revolution to present an outcome that would be any different ?

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martin's avatar

because we learned from the previous revolutions and know what thwarted them and how some somewhat succeeded (and are still being desperately attacked by empire today).

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

A constitutional reaffirmation immediately. The electorate must be educated and only nominate candidates of an honest brokerage.

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John Turcot's avatar

Hudson,

I admit not knowing the U.S. Constitution, nor any other constitution for that matter well enough to present educated opinions on things... I have been informed however, that human rights organizations have passed much legislation to guarantee those rights, all to no avail. When these 'rights are dependent on other people rather than common sense, constitutions are not worth the paper they are written on. If and when basic rights such as food and shelter no longer depend on credit scores, or perhaps when banksters are forced to experience life in the great outdoors when failing to provide life-saving shelters to needy clients, then and only then can humans find peace. Otherwise, the competition ends in a nuclear holocaust near you. Murphy's Law guarantees it.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Can you provide any examples of nuclear holocaust near me? Or anywhere else? Nebulous bullshit.

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John Turcot's avatar

Hudson,

"Can you provide any examples of nuclear holocaust near me?" MMmmmmm???? Nope! Not yet... hopefully I will never be able to provide you with that information... I would recommend searching for one of the interviews online with Annie Jacobson's newest book on 'Nuclear War', published a few weeks ago. She can present the nuclear war danger which has the potential to land near you in the next thirty minutes... Whether or not you deem it as "nebulous bullshit" is your choice... Here's hoping you will always be right.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

That’s only true in Third World shit holes where uninformed uneducated tools make up the majority of the electorate. Like here in the US. Over 40 countries in the world have figured it out. Why don’t we simply emulate them?

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John Turcot's avatar

Hudson...

What have 40 countries in the world figured out? "Simply emulate them" ??? Emulate what?

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

All societal issues. Public education, tax brackets infrastructure, I’m good God man what do you think we’re talking about here. That’s an impressive level of stupid

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

The people with integrity and a sense of morality, if they do get elected in appointed to office, don’t get corrupted, they get shunned and co-opted with pressure friendly leader ship. They will have zero influence if they are censored or removed.

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Susan T's avatar

this video is restricted, please enter your credentials.

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Eleanor Robin Gaura Vila's avatar

I don't know what that means. The Rumble video details how the zionists killed JFK and RFK in order to steal nuclear materials and knowhow to get the atom bomb. They did 9/11, and colluded in 7/10. Its a pretty censored narrative. They have invaded and taken over the body politic of USA, like a mycelium.

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Susan T's avatar

That is the message that I got when I tried to open it. I guess it means you need to be a member of Rumble to open it

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Gregor McIntosh's avatar

I’m on Rumble and it still says “this video is restricted/private” maybe because the video claims that 9/11 was an inside job which we all know is bullshit.

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Eleanor Robin Gaura Vila's avatar

It provides facts in support of the Israeli involvement in the assassinations of JFK, RFK (they opposed Issrael´s nuclear project, and JFK supported the right of return of Palestinian people. They stole nuclear materials and tech from the US to make the bomb. And yes, they were behind 9/11, and 10/7. Loads of evidence. The documentary was made by Matthew Tower, and posted at truth Tower, on Rumble. Remember the Liberty? Did you know over 500 members of the Biden administration are citizens of Israel?

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pretzelattack's avatar

if by inside job you mean the Bush Admin planted explosives in the twin towers I agree that that is bs, but if you mean the Bush Administration let the attack happen I disagree. that was never investigated properly by anybody, including the 911 commission.

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Ron Stockton's avatar

The “others” are not seen as human. Just like duck hunters use duck calls to bring their prey to where they can be murdered.

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Rodolfo Marusi Guareschi's avatar

IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER

Second Persian War (480-479 BC) 300,000 * Warring States Period (475-221 BC) 1,500,000 * Alexander the Great (336-325 BC) 500,000 * Gladiatorial Games (264 BC-435 AD) 3,500,000 * Before Punic War (264-241 BC) 400,000 * Quin Shi Huangdi (221-210 BC) 1,000,000 * Second Punic War (218-202 BC) 770,000 * Servile Wars (134-71 BC) 1,000,000 * Social War (91 -88 BC) 300,000 * Third Mithridatic War (73-63 BC) 400,000 * Gallic War (58-51 BC) 700,000 * Xin Dynasty (9-24) 10,000,000 * Jewish Wars (66-74, 132-135) 350,000 * Three Kingdoms of China (189-280) 4,100,000 * Fall of the Western Roman Empire (395-455) 7,000,000 * Justinian (527-565) 750,000 * Goguryeo-Sui Wars (598-612) 600,000 * An Lushan Rebellion (755-763) 15,000,000 * Collapse of the Maya (790-909) 1,000,000 * Crusades (1095-1291) 3,000,000 * Fang La Revolt (1120-1122) 2,000,000 * Genghis Khan (1206-1227) 40,000,000 * Albigensian Crusade (1208-1229) 1,000,000 * Hulagu Khan's invasion (1255-1260) 800,000 * Hundred Years' War (1337-1453) 3,500,000 * Fall of the Yuan Dynasty ( 1340-1370) 7,000,000 * Bahamani-Vijayanagara War (1366) 500,000 * Tamerlane (1370-1405) 17,000,000 * Chinese conquest of Vietnam (1407-1428) 700,000 * Human sacrifices of the Aztecs (1440-1521) 00,000 * Atlantic slave trade (1452-1807) 16,000,000 * Conquest of the Americas (from 1492) 15,000,000 * Wars between Burma and Siam (1550-1605) 900,000 * Russo-Tatar War (1560-1572) 500,000 * French Religious Wars (1562-1598) 3,000,000 * Time of Troubles (1598-1613) 5,000,000 * Thirty Years' War (1618-1648) 7,500,000 * Collapse of the Ming Dynasty (1635-1662) 25,000. 000 * Cromwel's invasion of Ireland (1649-1652) 400,000 * Aurangzeb (1658-1707) 4,600,000 * Peter the Great (1682-1725) 3,000,000 * Austro-Turkish War (1682-1699) 384,000 * Great Northern War (1700-1721) 370,000 * War of the Spanish Succession (1701-1713) 700,000 * War of the Austrian Succession (1740-1748) 500,000 * Sino-Zungaria War (1755-1757) 600,000 * Seven Years' War (1756) -1763) 1,500,000 * Haitian slave revolt (1791-1803) 400,000 * Napoleonic wars (1792-1815) 4,000,000 * Slave trade in the Middle East (7th-19th centuries) 18,500,000 * War of independence Mexican (1810-1821) 400,000 * Shaka (1816-1828) 1,500,000 * French conquest of Algeria (1830-1847) 775,000 * Taiping Revolt (1850-1864) 20,000,000 * Crimean War (1854-1856) 300,000 * Congo Free State (1855-1908) 10,000,000 * Panthay Revolt (1855-1873) 1,000,000 * American Civil War (1861-1865) 695,000 * Hui Revolt (1862-1873) 640,000 * Triple War Alliance (1864-1870) 480.000 * Franco-Prussian war (1870-1871) 435.000 * Russian-Turkish war (1877-1878) 500.000 * War Mahdista (1881-1898) 5,500.000 * Cuban revolution (1895-1898) 360.000 * Mexican Revolution (1910-1920) 1,000,000 * World War I (1914-1918) 15,000,000 * Russian Civil War (1918-1920) 9,000,000 * Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922) 400,000 * Chinese Civil War ( 1927-1937, 1945-1949) 7,000,000 * Joseph Stalin (1928-1953) 20,000,000 * Ethiopian War (1935-1941) 750,000 * Spanish Civil War (1936-1939) 365,000 * Second World War (1939- 1945) 66,000,000 * Famines of British India (18th-20th centuries) 27,000,000 * Expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe (1945-1947) 2,100,000 * Indochina War (1945-1954) 393,000 * Partition of India (1947) 500,000 * North Korea (since 1948) 3,000,000 * Mao Zedong (1949-1976) 40,000,000 * Korean War (1950-1953) 3,000,000 * Algerian War of Independence (1954- 1962) 525,000 * War in Sudan (1955-2003) 2,600,000 * War in Vietnam (1959-1975) 4,200,000 * Indonesian purges (1965-1966) 400,000 * War in Biafra (1966-1970) 1,000,000 * Genocide Bengali (1971) 1,500,000 * Idi Amin (1971-1979) 300,000 * Menghistu Hailè Mariàm (1974-1991) 2,000,000 * Democratic Kampuchea (1975-1979) 1,670,000 * Mozambique Civil War (1975-1992) 800,000 * Angolan Civil War (1975-1994) 500,000 * Post-war Vietnam (1975-1992) 365,000 * Soviet invasion of Afghanistan (1979-1992) 1,500,000 * Uganda Bush War (1979-1986) 500,000 * Saddam Hussein (1979-2003) 300,000 * Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988) 700,000 * Sanctions against Iraq (1990-2003) 350,000 * Chaos in Somalia (since 1991) 500,000 * Rwanda Genocide (1994) 937,000 * Second Congo War (1998-2002) 3,800,000.

Total 496,264,000, 219,955,000 since 1900, 15,722,000 since 1970, plus, since 1970, approximately 350,000,000 children who died of starvation and/or treatable diseases.

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jamenta's avatar

Not sure what your point is here. So yes, horrible things have happened in the past. So we should just allow it to happen now??

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Gavin Farrell's avatar

"The predatory phase of human development." Hopefully one day people can look back on it that way.

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Rodolfo Marusi Guareschi's avatar

«No. Sperare no. Fare. O non fare. Non c'è sperare.»

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JennyStokes's avatar

Sri Lankan civil war which tried to wipe out the Tamils.

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DLehman's avatar

And where are all the Palestinians killed by the Israelis in this tally?? This should be relevant to the topic..

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Irrelevant bullshit much?

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Gregor McIntosh's avatar

Socialist leaders didn’t kill as much as is stated.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

I cannot remember or think of a current government which is a true socialist. Most of them use that definition and are simply authoritarian criminals then the United States labels at socialist” can you give me an example?

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Gregor McIntosh's avatar

current socialist nations are the DPRK, China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Not DPRK, not China, I don’t know about the last three. Obviously they are suspect if you are the source. Go away. I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

"Everything in the forest is the forest, Competition is not separable from endless flavors of cooperation . . . It seems most of nature isn't red in tooth and claw after all. For one, those species at the base of the living pyramid have neither teeth nor talons. But if trees share their storehouses, then every drop of red must float on a sea of green." (From "The Overstory" by Richard Powers)

Lot's of folks here ask: what to do about it. Me, I've had it with Homo sap. Perhaps the solution is to disinfect the planet of the one species that fouls, taints, and despoils the biosphere's otherwise natural logistics because of that species' narcissistic belief that its big brain functions more logically than that supporting sea of green, when in fact that big brain is mostly a repository of aberrant conditioning. First step: societies clearly on the outer edge of aberrant narcissism must go -- that means you, Israel.

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Andrea Cherez's avatar

Wouldn’t aberrant narcissism include the US?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I'd say that there'd be lots of opinion in that direction. American exceptionalism actually being more like deceptionalism, as in " we've come to your country to be your friend", when actually, it's often, "we're here to steal your stuff."

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Karl Vort Poetry's avatar

Yes without doubt “most” of the USA must go.

Only for it to be replaced by the next narcissistic dominant race.

Irony.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

ABSOLUTELY

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JennyStokes's avatar

I am glad you mentioned this incredible Book by Richard Powers. I bought 6 copies and sent them out to my friends.

Thanks for reminding me.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Truly a book worthy of the Pulitzer. Remarkable wisdom.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I think it did win some prizes.

IF this was our Bible truly things might work.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

The immense intelligence implicit in the complex adaptive system of an old growth forest, underpinned by a mind-blowingly dense network of intra- and inter-species messaging that keeps the system self-regulating and autopoietic (self re-creating based on its hundred-million-year-old carefully evolved nexus of interactions). There's no room for extreme narcissism, which destabilizes the system, so it's automatically "phased out". Sounds tough, but it's really just like the old "needs of the many outweighing needs of the few or the one" postulate that characterizes healthy systems. Because human systems have become corrupted (since? _fill in your preferred era), such a process -- in this case the phasing out of a society like Israel is necessary because, unlike S. Africa it can't seem to self-regulate with respect to the larger world system in the face of withering world opinion. So I wasn't really kidding in my initial comment. the health of systems demands that severe outliers be rejected.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Let’s get the Biden Administration to focus on the criminal charges they so rightly deserve. 18 U.S. Code § 1091 is the statute that incorporated the Genocide Convention in US criminal law. Members of this administration shouldn't go a single day without having this statute in their faces, up front and center at every protest at every meeting, press conference, briefing, and trips home and abroad.

They may feel they are immune now, but let's get them considering what is possible when they leave office, given they have set the precedent of charging former presidents. They should have visions of prison all the days of their lives. Let us find the way.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

As shit George Bush and that entire executive. Take Cheney first. What’s your fucking point?

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Feral Finster's avatar

This is actually old news. The question is what does anyone propose to do about it?

"Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords." Gnaeus Pompeius.

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Michael's avatar

She suggested what to do about it in the article

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ikester8's avatar

Primary every one of these warmongering motherfuckers, is what.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Elect true PROGRESSIVES.

The only way out of this mess other than #MaskPeacefulCivilDisobedience.

That won’t happen because the numbers needed to make it an effective tool are nowhere near met. All we had to do was meet the one caveat that the framers sent before us. “A well informed and educated electorate” Fumbducks

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Realist's avatar

"This is actually old news. The question is what does anyone propose to do about it?"

When I ask that question I get a deluge of idiot replies.

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DLehman's avatar

Why don’t you make an intelligent proposal? Since you’re only getting idiotic replies..

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Realist's avatar

"Why don’t you make an intelligent proposal? Since you’re only getting idiotic replies.."

It is not incumbent on me to change my position or proposal to fit what others don't understand or believe.

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DLehman's avatar

No one is asking you to change anything just make a proposal. Spell it out. You’ve said destroy the deep state. That sounds like moaning and whinging to me.. all words and no clear strategy as to how..

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

100 years ago, black men were lynched in the US South, hanged from trees. Sometimes a festive gathering would happen around these crimes, with families bringing picnic supplies; you can see postcards people sent with images of such gatherings. So yeah, no population is immune--propagandize people enough and they can proudly participate in the most horrific acts.

I notice a common factor; the Germans were made to pay reparations for, and accept responsibility for World War I (unfairly) and it wrecked their economy. The South had lost the Civil War, and it wrecked THEIR economy. Israel as a nation has had no such loss, but it was founded on the justification that the survivors of one of the worst holocausts in history deserved a country of their own--why they accepted the idea that it was okay to drive the current residents out at gunpoint, stealing their land and homes, I don't know.But the propaganda had already started, "Aland without people for a people without land" like the Palestinians didn't exist.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I have decided that there is nothing I can say or do....other than taking a gun and killing every politician in the world.

I do not want to do this because I am actually a 'pacifist' by nature. BUT I am being severely 'pushed' right now. I might be 75yrs old but there is the same brave Jenny in my bones and I will NOT ascribe to: torture/genocide or a government telling me what or how I should behave.

I have been in Jail in France and it is not pretty.

I have been in Gaol in England and it is not pretty.

BUT I have always stood up for peace/kindness/

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jamenta's avatar

I am not for violence myself. It's the absolute worst way to resolve problems. On the other hand, I don't believe in victimhood either. If there really is no other choice, but to be violent - then I'm not opposed to it. But that demarcation line of when violence is justified, is usually what gets perverted by those who want to manipulate the masses into all out war and bloodshed. And those "masses" are usually the Children's brigade of late teens early 20s, and become a lost generation - just as half a million Ukrainians are now dead - a generation of young Ukrainians, along with no small amount of Russians. Was the war necessary? Could it have been avoided? I guess that will be a question for the historians to write in the next few decades.

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Sam's avatar

"This is how the entire western world has been manipulated into accepting nonstop war, militarism, nuclear brinkmanship, imperialism…"

Democrats spent 5 years saying that Russia interfered in the election, cost the Hellabitch her coronation and that Trump was Putin’s puppet and daily 2 minutes of hate towards Russia and then when Russia was was provoked into Ukraine all the shitlibs got behind Ukraine just as they were brainwashed into doing. They should be hanging their heads in shame for being so gullible, but first they would have to wake up and see how they were.

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Jane's avatar

“Hellabitch”. Well done. I’m calling her that from now on if I’m compelled to mention her.

The Russia hate was indeed Orwellian. I couldn’t believe how gullible liberals were.

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Sam's avatar

Well it fits doesn’t it? 🤭

My friends had been anti war most of their lives, but they are now blood thirsty, pro Ukraine maniacs. It’s so hard to believe how they felt for Russia Russia Russia.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Still Putin fluffing over here I see

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Jesus Christ dude you couldn’t be more fucking revealing if you had a neon sign saying “I am a Russian sock puppet Putin cocksleeve”

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Jesus Christ dude you couldn’t be more fucking revealing if you had a neon sign saying “I am a Russian sock puppet Putin cocksleeve”

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Thanks for outing yourself as a poo insulation tool. Russia absolutely unequivocally did interfere with our elections and have been for a minute. Take that bullshit elsewhere man

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River's avatar

Shilling for any world power who has a history of violent colonialism is not a good look, and its exactly how the stuff in her article gets started. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. The US us a violent colonial problem. So is Russia. Some of you all need to stop making excuses for TpTb

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Boris Petrov's avatar

A BIG opportunity for both RFK Jr. and/or Jill Stein -- now that Trump guided Mike Johnson into total surrender and adoption of Biden’s cabal anti-American Uni-party policies on both wars and FISA censorship and surveillance. Trump formally joined Biden’s-deep state Uni-party and -- is effectively GONE.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

I think Trump was always part of the Uniparty, but fooled millions into believing he was opposition.

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Boguslawa El Cheikh's avatar

I can’t believe like how it’s possible that after over six months of horror and countless atrocities the Palestinians are still questioned and not believed to.

I stop believing anything Israelis are saying months ago, if they would tell me 2+2 is 4 I would start to question this on the spot.

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Captain Dicky's avatar

A war crime a minute in Gaza.

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