"The US creates poverty and chaos in other countries and then sounds the alarm over a “migrant crisis” as people flee those conditions it created. It’s like flooding the basement and then crying when the people who live there try to come upstairs."
Having worked with immigrants, I often wondered why they flee to the US when it is the US that has caused the majority of the problems in their country. Often times it's because they have no other choice--the countries surrounding their warzone have also been destroyed by American boycotts and coup d'etats and drug cartels as well. If the US wants the migrations to stop, then it'll need to stop ruining the lives and the countries of its neighbors.
The Revolution Continues: It is the US GOVERNMENT that does all of the bad things, not the American people. Migrants still come to the USA because there are still good people here and opportunity.
I am sick and tired of people conflating the bastards in DC, NYC, SF, and LA with the American people.
This compartmentalization is exactly the problem. There are too many Americans who know that the prerogatives of imperialism depend on their silence and active cooperation. They are compensated for their willingness to lie and obstruct and misrepresent. Most of the thousand-plus churches across this land are complicit actors. All corporations are complicit players. Most labor unions are on the side of the imperialists.
Americans are much more responsible than most are willing to acknowledge.
I’m not saying they aren’t motivated and conditioned to play the game according to imperialist ultimatum. It isn’t a matter of intelligence. The question is not asked. They go to their church for validation and absolution. They consciously identify with the one who signs their paycheck, and vote accordingly. Fear is a much bigger factor than unawareness or stupidity.
The entire system in the USA is rigged against the people. From birth to death, education, minimum wage, work laws (you can be fired at will), housing, safety, retirement, the people are in a daily war to survive. The ones who champion them (Socialists, labor unions, Assange type journos) are called traitors and hunted down. It’s not a surprise then that we have a poorly educated population, the highest maternal and infant mortality rate in all developed nations (it’s safer to be pregnant in Mexico), and the most miserable, depressed citizens in the world.
These types of citizens are much easier to manipulate and be made to fight each other.
Distract, divide, and they won’t notice we’re about to go extinct from climate change and WWIII.
There seem to be damned few of them, though. I suppose a lot of people would like freedom for themselves, but they don't particularly care for it in others, especially those outside the home tribe. Hence all the anger and abuse in social media, I suppose.
Ukraine won't be like Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya, because this time the US has picked a fight with a peer adversary. The US has shown itself to be unprepared for real war in terms of its productive capacity.
All this talk about attacking China is reckless but also incredibly stupid, because China will react similarly to Russia, and if the US is fighting on two fronts it could get properly beaten, which is something it's never experienced before.
Although the US has lost every war since WW2, it really needs to be beaten up and humiliated. The hubris needs to be slapped off the faces of the stupid American Bully.
If you want to identify the "Stupid American Bully" as the American Oligarchy which Aaron Good discusses so well in his video podcasts on "American Exception", then you might have a chance of getting Americans to change their form of government.
If you just humiliate all Americans, you'll have to do it again, and again, and again, and ... well there won't be "another again" because the "Stupid American Bully" will have let lose the Nukes.
What is needed is an anti-NED (National Endowment for Democracy)
John, good point. I wrote a blanket statement because of a typo. The word should have been singular "face", not plural "faces".
You make a good point about WW1. The scumbag Woodrow Wilson lied America into that war. Like Zeli he was elected on a Peace Platform and two weeks later declared war on the Kaiser.
When I go to my Veterans Posts the American Legion and AMVETS, I talk to my comrades about how we were used by our Oligarch Rulers. I explain to them we never defended our nation or Constitution which we were sworn to defend. Our brothers died in wars for profit to enrich the Oligarchs and Banksters.
I don't know if Americans would even know they had lost, given how in thrall they are to corporate media. The way they go about conducting wars is so different to Germany's role in WW1 that I don't think that comparison quite works.
Of course you're right about them having nukes and being the only psycho ever to have used them, so who knows what they might do. I think their ruling elite would throw all their 'allies' in front of them if they were ever truly threatened
Alistair P-M: "In thrall to they are to corporate media." LOL! Americans hate, HATE, the corporate media. CNN gets maybe 1 million viewers a day. MSNBC even less. FOX isn't doing well, either.
Starry Gordon: The only people I know who read, look at, or quote the MSM (Main Stream Media) are other pundits, including alternative media, who do it for money? laughs? to keep themselves relevant?
The locals, who are all dyed in the wool Democrats and progressives (commies) only talk about how evil Trump is. They don't notice anything else.
For example, my neighbor Barry recently asked me, "So when do you think he's going to jail?"
I answered, "Which one?"
Barry was flummoxed by my question and walked away.
I know a bunch of Americans who believe corporate media. They might not watch CNN on TV (who watches TV any more?) but they sure read and watch MSM online
This is an MIC con-job. America knows it can't beat China or Russia in a real war. The whole objective is to make money in selling weapons, and it doesn't matter if they work or not, or if they are fit-for-purpose. The panic generates demand, and the suckers lap it up and throw money at the MIC. Do you know of any Western military that is organised and equipped in a way that is practical or fit-for-purpose, if we define fit-for-purpose being the ability to fight and win in a total war situation against a peer adversary? It's a giant scam!
Yes, it's a giant scam predicated on none of those countries ever calling their bluff, and Ukraine has shown the world how badly their weapons perform against Russian weapons.
Maybe the best thing for the US would be a military coup - the military presumably care more about their own troops than the government or the MIC does
I don't know I just see this camp lejune commercial all the time, and then they were giving them cancer and the people in those foreign countries too by dumping toxic shit in the ground, pretty sure the military only cares so much about their soldiers... "I love the smell of napalm in the morning"
I have written my reps repeatedly to instigate such a thing! I am a disabled Vet and took an oath as has every vet and this country is under attack and controlled by a criminal organization! I want the military to be controlled by We The People not a psycho warmonger!
Nikki Haley spouts vitriolic nonsense about China typical of the warped views and tactics of the American political class: create an enemy, foment fear - and splurge billions on the arms industry. One question: WHY is China building up its military? Because the US had been rattling sabres and threatening China since it first perceived it as a threat to its hegemony! Three of the largest overseas U.S. military bases are within 3,000 kms of China.
If any nation poses an existential threat to peace it is the USA - the misery they have perpetrated on countless millions of innocent people since WWII must surpass anything that has happened in the last 3000 years and more: think about the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (the “war on terror”) and interference in countless instances from the overthrow of Mohammad Mossadegh in Iran to the backing of the Pinochet regime in Chile, the current situation in Venezuela … and on and on! Whenever a foreign government (almost invariably socialist) has set about addressing grave injustices and inequalities the US steps in, covertly or openly - usually to defend its commercial interests in oil, copper, lithium etc.
Nikki Haley's family was 1.7 million in debt and since she started spewing her warmongering sewage she became 8 million to the good! This type of filth has for centuries been blood, death and destruction for profit and nothing else.
“In order for tyrants to claim and retain total power, the people must become ignorant of their own history and roots, and must through propaganda and fear be so terrified as to abandon all logic and responsibility in order to seek a false safety.” Gary D. Barnett
"We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping-jacks; they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." John Swinton, editor of the New York Tribune, in the 1880s
"If you support the persecution of Julian Assange, that means you believe all media everywhere should function as US propaganda organs. You believe all journalists everywhere have a responsibility to help the US empire keep its crimes hidden, and should be punished if they don’t."
Yes, well, we have a few of them in Julian’s country, Australia. Currently under the command of the AUKUS brigade, with our feeble executive politicians dancing to the US tune, every day.
In this country, there is a national broadcaster who had a reputation for honest reporting, tackling the hard stories and being supporters of items of national interest. In the past, populated by one or two foreign affairs journalists, a credit to their profession. No more.
Then along came the Labor/Liberal government/s, as in the USA, one party the same as the other. Also, as the Murdoch publications fell into line with the US policies of 'here we come, China and Russia', the paid copiers, once journalists, began to do what they were told by omitting the real facts and pushing the Fox/Murdoch line, whatever it was at the time and the news began to dry up. Stories that would have once been a headline for days received a casual mention on day one (naturally, not in the football season) and then into the bin. Russia became an ogre even though the war commenced in 2014 and everyone knew it, including the proxy NATO sycophants, itching for a US approved war by joining the proxy Ukraine. Australia itself itching to be a US proxy, yet again in Taiwan as it was in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. Not too soon, please. Our AUKUS submarines aren’t due until 2045. Crews, not yet born.
So one went to the ABC for news, the national broadcaster, only to find that they were giving Julian Assange a bagging as “not a journalist”, and the like, and these posers joined ranks with the news sources used by the commercial hacks, one and all. There were one or two exceptions, of course as there always is, thankfully.
So any climate that is dictated to by the USA such as a compliant little country like Australia with its AUKUS trio of Albanese, Wong and Marles and their political hanger’s on, doing what they are told to do, can stifle the last source of real, truthful news for 25 million people. Done.
Biden, his CIA, FBI and Israeli owned Neocons can relax. We are now conditioned to having joined the media whores from the rest of a world where once we enjoyed a trickle of truth, even that has gone in 2023.
Therefore, we have now conformed……..1) Russia is a nasty aggressor, 2) China is trying to take over the whole world and 3) exceptional America is the saviour of democracy.
I noticed the USA is so terrible no one wants to leave but everyone wants to come.
Fancy that....
Lotta bitching about the place but the complainers stay & take the money.
How about ya'll go start a good country you'd like better. You could use the Cuban or Venezuelan governments for models.
It wasn't us independent Patriots who sneaked in, took over media & government. Who sold our soul to the house of Rothschild's Bank of England to plant their 'Federal' Reserve in the US. It was dimms who gave the 'Fed'.
It was dimmocrats & later subverted RINO republicans who have spent us into poverty. Strategy by Cloward & Piven, a book on how to weaken the USA economically & Rules For Radicals were not written by MAGA Patriots, Constitutional Conservatives or USA loving Patriots. They were written by 'progressive' subversives. Most of them were communist, fascist...what have ya...but most all hid in the dimm party.
You can lay 90% or so of our nation's problems on 'progressiveism'.
Margaret Sanger, a DEMOCRAT KKK hob knobber, came up with Planned Parenthood. These super racists put most of the PP clinics near black & minority neighborhoods. Ever hear of her Negro Project?
Who is it that runs & benefits from the Military Industrial Complex & the Medical Industrial Complex? Dimmocrats & RINO republicans.
When did you ever hear Trump say he wanted to take over the planet, "You'll own nothing & be happy!" and that we should eat bugs?
The WEF, UN, NWO & one world government cabal! You NEVER heard any such language from true American patriot MAGA people.
One trick the devil is trying to fool you with is equating those it attacks with what it & it's followers are planning, have done, are dong or will do. It's called projection, per Rules For radicals.
Ya'll can moan & complain, I don't care. Free speech ya know.
But it would be VERY NICE if you would aim at & blame the right people once in a while. After all, you aren't really fooling as many now, yourselves excepted. That's why your knickers are in such a wad...
Yes, yes, Haitians and South Sudanese want to come. Anyone else? Surely virtually no one from a Western country, except a few unicorn athletes who can hardly wait to go back home, cash in hand. The country whose young people imagine themselves as so clever by wearing Canadian flags when travelling, ashamed of their country’s baggage.
It must seem strange to you Sam that decent people aren’t lining up to get themselves some of that crap health care, that crap longevity, that high rape and murder rate and participate in a “democracy” ranked 26th in the world on the Economist’s Democratic Index. And get their kids educated in a country ranking 26th on OECD PISA, as far behind China as Kazakhstan is behind the US.
SamFox: My only complaint with your comment is bringing religion into it by using the word "devil". Humans create the problems, not some spiritual hobgoblin that people blame for their own faults.
You make the fatal mistake of thinking party lines are a real thing. The USA was birthed in bloodshed, racism, colonization, and war. Nothing has changed in nearly three centuries.Despite George Washington warning us NOT to have political parties. He predicted where we are today.
MAGATARDS might think they are patriots, but they are just more of the same crap spewed up historically by tiny loud men, always angry about not getting all of the pie, and always mad at those trying to make sharing the pie more fair. Giant, loud, crybabies. Useless.
It’s not so easy to leave the US. The US government levies a 40% wealth tax on anyone bold enough to renounce their citizenship, and Americans must renounce their citizenship to avoid paying US income tax, no matter the country of their actual residence (the US is the only country to do this ... where citizens are viewed as property of the government, no matter where they live). In my opinion, just about any of the Caribbean nations are better places to live than the US. That is my destination - I’m done with America.
I’m a USMC veteran who once loved my country. For my entire life I’ve been working to educate my fellow Americans about the evils of Socialism, Fascism, the Democrat party, and NeoCon war mongering. However, too many Americans continue to consume and believe the BS propaganda, or even worse ... they “don’t care about politics.” I find it pathetic that most Americans are not concerned about the actions of their government, no matter how repugnant those actions are. The US government understands that as long as Americans are kept fat - they are happy. Not exactly the “sons of liberty” one reads about in US school books.
However, as CITIZENS of a REPUBLIC, Americans ARE responsible for the actions of their government. They SHOULD “give a damn.” Yes, there are still freedom-loving Americans scattered about the US, but not enough, in my opinion.
America has redefined itself as a nation. America is now Babylon, and I fear America is about to get smashed by God’s Hammer of Justice ... for God is a just god.
Americans are rock solid dumbshits of the highest order. They love their 'politicians' no matter how bad they get screwed over by them. These idiots believe 'inflation' is caused by 'workers asking for more money'. The anti china dog whistle is just another long line of racist dog whistles that these knuckle draggers will cackle about while the elites give them the big one up the keister
Next on the agenda will be accusing China of having WMD's, made with the technology we sold them during the Clinton Administration. We sold them the goods so we know they have them. Just like Iraq. A German magazine found 11 US corporations that sold WMD technology to the Iraqis and we had the receipts to prove it! So we accused them of having what we sold them.
The West created modern China. Bertrand Russell had experimental schools there before the cultural revolution, and the Rockefellers had massive influence. Even now you can find Dave Rockefeller's NYT op Ed on how much he loved China. The idea that China is the west's enemy is just a Punch and Judy show for the masses. You don't built your enemy up financially with deals like NAFTA, etc.
Recall reding that after Rockefeller Pharmaceuticals birthed modern medicine as an outlet for their drugs, they then attacked natural medicine using the term quackery. There was indeed snake oil salesmen in those days but also a lot of innovative treatment occurring, treatments they couldn't cash in on. Relating to this topic though, China was then one of the earliest countries that got their attention, the same attacks natural medicine received in the US, acupuncture and Chinse herbalists then received in China as chemical drug based treatment was pushed as the modern approach. Allopathic drugs are indeed a boon for short term treatments or trauma victims, however a poor approach to chronic conditions as the side effects can be worse than the original problem. However the latter is where the real profits lie.
They contributed like the Chinese contributed to the West. They also contributed the biggest killer in the history of China! About 100 years ago the American Tobacco Company targeted China and addicted them to cigarettes, something which 40% of Chinese still suffer from. This has accounted for well over 100 million deaths in the past 100 years. What a great contribution. If only Preparation H worked against the pain and itching of American Hubris, Humbuggery, Hypocrisy, and Horseshxt . The new 4-H Club.
Actually it was when they ran out of unwanted obsolete weapons they could sell at sky-high prices. I said then that support for the war would "drop like a rock." And it did, right on schedule.
If they still had inventory we'd be hearing that hard lessons had been learned and the coming winter offensive will surely do the trick.
It's all about money. Once you know that then it all becomes predictable.
When Biden said to Zelensky "As long as it takes", he forgot to finish his sentence. He meant "As long as it take to depleat our stock of obsolete weapons".
I could not agree more with you Caitlin. The US and NATO are war mongers and constantly, with the help of the gutless mainstream media lay the ground for more war and destruction. Free Julian Assange.
Someone seriously asked me recently what I thought about the possibility of China invading the US west coast. Likely that person listened to some radio talk show imbecile developing the concept. I found no words to respond.
russian_bot: Asians are now the largest immigrant group moving to California. This doesn't mean a Chinese invasion. Quite the opposite. The Chinese, especially the rich ones, are fleeing the CCP and China.
MIke: The Chinese buying up Vancouver, BC are laundering money from China including drug money. They are criminals, not an invasion force. If you don't want the Chinese in Vancouver, don't let them in. But it isn't up to you, is it?
I do not live there. I do not care if immigrants enter a nation legally. Just something I had heard. The ones you speak of, Canada would likely be better off without...without getting into should drugs be il/legal discussion.
Mike: I have friends who lived in Vancouver, BC. The Chinese have bought up many properties just for investments. They are empty. Other housing is taken up by immigrants, especially Ukrainians. The native Canadians, including my friends, had to move out of the city.
The rich Chinese bring money (bribes more or less). The State likes the dough.
May I expound? This is not directed at you, but this is a good place to add the below.
Those properties are empty today. Some very intelligent people do not understand the long game.
War is a ground acquisition game. That acquisition may be through violence, subterfuge, purchase or any other means.
Suppose "the US" wanted to take China with as little effort as possible. Would this not be a good way?
Get Americans by the millions into China legally. Establish businesses there, say American Restaurants. Establish "churches" there and stock them with weapons, effectively making the churches into weapon depots. Have fighting-age men by the millions migrate into China where they receive money and medical care from the benevolent Chinese government. Enlist other nations to do same...
Mike: I remember reading about the Opium Trade and the Boxer Rebellion in China. Lots of American and British families got rich (The Forbes Family of Boston e.g.) off of the Opium Trade. Then the foreign governments moved in and took over cities along the coast. Tsingtao was the German colony/city. Hence the Chinese beer Tsingtao.
Seems to me the Chinese are turning the tables on the USA and Europe with the cheap Fentanyl.
The blueprint is already there for taking over a country, drugs and moral collapse of the local population.
Mike: I agree. The State cares not a whit about us peons. The bureaucrats and politicians don't even pretend to care about the workers and retirees, the sick, the poor, and the disappearing middle class.
The State (media is of course included) just seem to care about immigrants and war/coups in other countries.
"The US creates poverty and chaos in other countries and then sounds the alarm over a “migrant crisis” as people flee those conditions it created. It’s like flooding the basement and then crying when the people who live there try to come upstairs."
Having worked with immigrants, I often wondered why they flee to the US when it is the US that has caused the majority of the problems in their country. Often times it's because they have no other choice--the countries surrounding their warzone have also been destroyed by American boycotts and coup d'etats and drug cartels as well. If the US wants the migrations to stop, then it'll need to stop ruining the lives and the countries of its neighbors.
The Revolution Continues: It is the US GOVERNMENT that does all of the bad things, not the American people. Migrants still come to the USA because there are still good people here and opportunity.
I am sick and tired of people conflating the bastards in DC, NYC, SF, and LA with the American people.
This compartmentalization is exactly the problem. There are too many Americans who know that the prerogatives of imperialism depend on their silence and active cooperation. They are compensated for their willingness to lie and obstruct and misrepresent. Most of the thousand-plus churches across this land are complicit actors. All corporations are complicit players. Most labor unions are on the side of the imperialists.
Americans are much more responsible than most are willing to acknowledge.
unwarranted: You exaggerate the intelligence and awareness of the American working public about the bigger picture.
Do you know of the "Did You See the Gorilla" experiment?
Look it up.
Neil Oliver also talks about this experiment in his latest video "Lies". It's on YouTube.
People are too busy trying to survive to see the Gorilla walking across the screen.
I’m not saying they aren’t motivated and conditioned to play the game according to imperialist ultimatum. It isn’t a matter of intelligence. The question is not asked. They go to their church for validation and absolution. They consciously identify with the one who signs their paycheck, and vote accordingly. Fear is a much bigger factor than unawareness or stupidity.
unwarranted: Regarding fear of The Man e.g. losing your job, I'm always reminded of what Holman (Steve McQueen) said in "Sand Pebbles":
"If you get really good at something, they can't break you down."
Holman ran the steam engine that ran the ship. He was an engineer. Learn a skill that few have and is in high demand. Never fear The Man again.
The entire system in the USA is rigged against the people. From birth to death, education, minimum wage, work laws (you can be fired at will), housing, safety, retirement, the people are in a daily war to survive. The ones who champion them (Socialists, labor unions, Assange type journos) are called traitors and hunted down. It’s not a surprise then that we have a poorly educated population, the highest maternal and infant mortality rate in all developed nations (it’s safer to be pregnant in Mexico), and the most miserable, depressed citizens in the world.
These types of citizens are much easier to manipulate and be made to fight each other.
Distract, divide, and they won’t notice we’re about to go extinct from climate change and WWIII.
I think I already quoted George Carlin on that. "These are the best we can do, folks!"
Starry Gordon: There is no "We" in an individual society of liberty loving people. Each person CAN do better. But it is up to them to do so.
There seem to be damned few of them, though. I suppose a lot of people would like freedom for themselves, but they don't particularly care for it in others, especially those outside the home tribe. Hence all the anger and abuse in social media, I suppose.
Starry Gordon: I agree with you. Here in Sonoma County the locals are always in everyone else's business, even in their own tribe.
Ukraine won't be like Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya, because this time the US has picked a fight with a peer adversary. The US has shown itself to be unprepared for real war in terms of its productive capacity.
All this talk about attacking China is reckless but also incredibly stupid, because China will react similarly to Russia, and if the US is fighting on two fronts it could get properly beaten, which is something it's never experienced before.
Although the US has lost every war since WW2, it really needs to be beaten up and humiliated. The hubris needs to be slapped off the faces of the stupid American Bully.
You mean like Germany after WWI?
That didn't turn out so well.
If you want to identify the "Stupid American Bully" as the American Oligarchy which Aaron Good discusses so well in his video podcasts on "American Exception", then you might have a chance of getting Americans to change their form of government.
If you just humiliate all Americans, you'll have to do it again, and again, and again, and ... well there won't be "another again" because the "Stupid American Bully" will have let lose the Nukes.
What is needed is an anti-NED (National Endowment for Democracy)
John, good point. I wrote a blanket statement because of a typo. The word should have been singular "face", not plural "faces".
You make a good point about WW1. The scumbag Woodrow Wilson lied America into that war. Like Zeli he was elected on a Peace Platform and two weeks later declared war on the Kaiser.
When I go to my Veterans Posts the American Legion and AMVETS, I talk to my comrades about how we were used by our Oligarch Rulers. I explain to them we never defended our nation or Constitution which we were sworn to defend. Our brothers died in wars for profit to enrich the Oligarchs and Banksters.
You started a great thread!
Beste.
I don't know if Americans would even know they had lost, given how in thrall they are to corporate media. The way they go about conducting wars is so different to Germany's role in WW1 that I don't think that comparison quite works.
Of course you're right about them having nukes and being the only psycho ever to have used them, so who knows what they might do. I think their ruling elite would throw all their 'allies' in front of them if they were ever truly threatened
Alistair P-M: "In thrall to they are to corporate media." LOL! Americans hate, HATE, the corporate media. CNN gets maybe 1 million viewers a day. MSNBC even less. FOX isn't doing well, either.
Get real.
If they hate the corporate media why do they read it, look at it, quote it?
Starry Gordon: The only people I know who read, look at, or quote the MSM (Main Stream Media) are other pundits, including alternative media, who do it for money? laughs? to keep themselves relevant?
The locals, who are all dyed in the wool Democrats and progressives (commies) only talk about how evil Trump is. They don't notice anything else.
For example, my neighbor Barry recently asked me, "So when do you think he's going to jail?"
I answered, "Which one?"
Barry was flummoxed by my question and walked away.
I know a bunch of Americans who believe corporate media. They might not watch CNN on TV (who watches TV any more?) but they sure read and watch MSM online
Alistair P-M: I think social media is the big news platform nowadays. I'm not on social media so don't know for sure.
I'm surprised that anything more than a few million Americans watch MSM online. But maybe your American friends are outliers.
This is an MIC con-job. America knows it can't beat China or Russia in a real war. The whole objective is to make money in selling weapons, and it doesn't matter if they work or not, or if they are fit-for-purpose. The panic generates demand, and the suckers lap it up and throw money at the MIC. Do you know of any Western military that is organised and equipped in a way that is practical or fit-for-purpose, if we define fit-for-purpose being the ability to fight and win in a total war situation against a peer adversary? It's a giant scam!
Yes, it's a giant scam predicated on none of those countries ever calling their bluff, and Ukraine has shown the world how badly their weapons perform against Russian weapons.
Maybe the best thing for the US would be a military coup - the military presumably care more about their own troops than the government or the MIC does
I don't know I just see this camp lejune commercial all the time, and then they were giving them cancer and the people in those foreign countries too by dumping toxic shit in the ground, pretty sure the military only cares so much about their soldiers... "I love the smell of napalm in the morning"
I have written my reps repeatedly to instigate such a thing! I am a disabled Vet and took an oath as has every vet and this country is under attack and controlled by a criminal organization! I want the military to be controlled by We The People not a psycho warmonger!
Nikki Haley spouts vitriolic nonsense about China typical of the warped views and tactics of the American political class: create an enemy, foment fear - and splurge billions on the arms industry. One question: WHY is China building up its military? Because the US had been rattling sabres and threatening China since it first perceived it as a threat to its hegemony! Three of the largest overseas U.S. military bases are within 3,000 kms of China.
If any nation poses an existential threat to peace it is the USA - the misery they have perpetrated on countless millions of innocent people since WWII must surpass anything that has happened in the last 3000 years and more: think about the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (the “war on terror”) and interference in countless instances from the overthrow of Mohammad Mossadegh in Iran to the backing of the Pinochet regime in Chile, the current situation in Venezuela … and on and on! Whenever a foreign government (almost invariably socialist) has set about addressing grave injustices and inequalities the US steps in, covertly or openly - usually to defend its commercial interests in oil, copper, lithium etc.
Talk about an “evil empire”!!!!
Nikki Haley's family was 1.7 million in debt and since she started spewing her warmongering sewage she became 8 million to the good! This type of filth has for centuries been blood, death and destruction for profit and nothing else.
“In order for tyrants to claim and retain total power, the people must become ignorant of their own history and roots, and must through propaganda and fear be so terrified as to abandon all logic and responsibility in order to seek a false safety.” Gary D. Barnett
"We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping-jacks; they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." John Swinton, editor of the New York Tribune, in the 1880s
"If you support the persecution of Julian Assange, that means you believe all media everywhere should function as US propaganda organs. You believe all journalists everywhere have a responsibility to help the US empire keep its crimes hidden, and should be punished if they don’t."
Yes, well, we have a few of them in Julian’s country, Australia. Currently under the command of the AUKUS brigade, with our feeble executive politicians dancing to the US tune, every day.
In this country, there is a national broadcaster who had a reputation for honest reporting, tackling the hard stories and being supporters of items of national interest. In the past, populated by one or two foreign affairs journalists, a credit to their profession. No more.
Then along came the Labor/Liberal government/s, as in the USA, one party the same as the other. Also, as the Murdoch publications fell into line with the US policies of 'here we come, China and Russia', the paid copiers, once journalists, began to do what they were told by omitting the real facts and pushing the Fox/Murdoch line, whatever it was at the time and the news began to dry up. Stories that would have once been a headline for days received a casual mention on day one (naturally, not in the football season) and then into the bin. Russia became an ogre even though the war commenced in 2014 and everyone knew it, including the proxy NATO sycophants, itching for a US approved war by joining the proxy Ukraine. Australia itself itching to be a US proxy, yet again in Taiwan as it was in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. Not too soon, please. Our AUKUS submarines aren’t due until 2045. Crews, not yet born.
So one went to the ABC for news, the national broadcaster, only to find that they were giving Julian Assange a bagging as “not a journalist”, and the like, and these posers joined ranks with the news sources used by the commercial hacks, one and all. There were one or two exceptions, of course as there always is, thankfully.
So any climate that is dictated to by the USA such as a compliant little country like Australia with its AUKUS trio of Albanese, Wong and Marles and their political hanger’s on, doing what they are told to do, can stifle the last source of real, truthful news for 25 million people. Done.
Biden, his CIA, FBI and Israeli owned Neocons can relax. We are now conditioned to having joined the media whores from the rest of a world where once we enjoyed a trickle of truth, even that has gone in 2023.
Therefore, we have now conformed……..1) Russia is a nasty aggressor, 2) China is trying to take over the whole world and 3) exceptional America is the saviour of democracy.
Amen, verily, it is true, and let it be so.
I noticed the USA is so terrible no one wants to leave but everyone wants to come.
Fancy that....
Lotta bitching about the place but the complainers stay & take the money.
How about ya'll go start a good country you'd like better. You could use the Cuban or Venezuelan governments for models.
It wasn't us independent Patriots who sneaked in, took over media & government. Who sold our soul to the house of Rothschild's Bank of England to plant their 'Federal' Reserve in the US. It was dimms who gave the 'Fed'.
It was dimmocrats & later subverted RINO republicans who have spent us into poverty. Strategy by Cloward & Piven, a book on how to weaken the USA economically & Rules For Radicals were not written by MAGA Patriots, Constitutional Conservatives or USA loving Patriots. They were written by 'progressive' subversives. Most of them were communist, fascist...what have ya...but most all hid in the dimm party.
You can lay 90% or so of our nation's problems on 'progressiveism'.
Margaret Sanger, a DEMOCRAT KKK hob knobber, came up with Planned Parenthood. These super racists put most of the PP clinics near black & minority neighborhoods. Ever hear of her Negro Project?
Who is it that runs & benefits from the Military Industrial Complex & the Medical Industrial Complex? Dimmocrats & RINO republicans.
When did you ever hear Trump say he wanted to take over the planet, "You'll own nothing & be happy!" and that we should eat bugs?
The WEF, UN, NWO & one world government cabal! You NEVER heard any such language from true American patriot MAGA people.
One trick the devil is trying to fool you with is equating those it attacks with what it & it's followers are planning, have done, are dong or will do. It's called projection, per Rules For radicals.
Ya'll can moan & complain, I don't care. Free speech ya know.
But it would be VERY NICE if you would aim at & blame the right people once in a while. After all, you aren't really fooling as many now, yourselves excepted. That's why your knickers are in such a wad...
SamFox
Yes, yes, Haitians and South Sudanese want to come. Anyone else? Surely virtually no one from a Western country, except a few unicorn athletes who can hardly wait to go back home, cash in hand. The country whose young people imagine themselves as so clever by wearing Canadian flags when travelling, ashamed of their country’s baggage.
It must seem strange to you Sam that decent people aren’t lining up to get themselves some of that crap health care, that crap longevity, that high rape and murder rate and participate in a “democracy” ranked 26th in the world on the Economist’s Democratic Index. And get their kids educated in a country ranking 26th on OECD PISA, as far behind China as Kazakhstan is behind the US.
SamFox: My only complaint with your comment is bringing religion into it by using the word "devil". Humans create the problems, not some spiritual hobgoblin that people blame for their own faults.
Spoken like a proud cheerleader for imperialism.
You make the fatal mistake of thinking party lines are a real thing. The USA was birthed in bloodshed, racism, colonization, and war. Nothing has changed in nearly three centuries.Despite George Washington warning us NOT to have political parties. He predicted where we are today.
MAGATARDS might think they are patriots, but they are just more of the same crap spewed up historically by tiny loud men, always angry about not getting all of the pie, and always mad at those trying to make sharing the pie more fair. Giant, loud, crybabies. Useless.
It’s not so easy to leave the US. The US government levies a 40% wealth tax on anyone bold enough to renounce their citizenship, and Americans must renounce their citizenship to avoid paying US income tax, no matter the country of their actual residence (the US is the only country to do this ... where citizens are viewed as property of the government, no matter where they live). In my opinion, just about any of the Caribbean nations are better places to live than the US. That is my destination - I’m done with America.
I’m a USMC veteran who once loved my country. For my entire life I’ve been working to educate my fellow Americans about the evils of Socialism, Fascism, the Democrat party, and NeoCon war mongering. However, too many Americans continue to consume and believe the BS propaganda, or even worse ... they “don’t care about politics.” I find it pathetic that most Americans are not concerned about the actions of their government, no matter how repugnant those actions are. The US government understands that as long as Americans are kept fat - they are happy. Not exactly the “sons of liberty” one reads about in US school books.
However, as CITIZENS of a REPUBLIC, Americans ARE responsible for the actions of their government. They SHOULD “give a damn.” Yes, there are still freedom-loving Americans scattered about the US, but not enough, in my opinion.
America has redefined itself as a nation. America is now Babylon, and I fear America is about to get smashed by God’s Hammer of Justice ... for God is a just god.
Who are 'progressive subversives?'
Americans are rock solid dumbshits of the highest order. They love their 'politicians' no matter how bad they get screwed over by them. These idiots believe 'inflation' is caused by 'workers asking for more money'. The anti china dog whistle is just another long line of racist dog whistles that these knuckle draggers will cackle about while the elites give them the big one up the keister
Any more idiotic insults and buzzwords you want to fit in your insane rant? I think you missed a few.
well the one that fits you the most is what George Carlin was referring to: dumb ass motherfuckers. you radiate that aura
dipshits like you are what makes the united states a shithole country
flagwaving, mainstream media watching, bootlicking the wealthy and downpunching on the poor type dumbshit.
a real dumb dingdong dipshit of the highest order.
😂❤️ I love this thread.
Here we go with the bullshit leftist rhetoric that never fails to be regurgitated.
Well incel hope you enjoy jerking off to Tucker you sad wanker lol
Oh, you called me an iNcEL. You must be sane and rational.
Next on the agenda will be accusing China of having WMD's, made with the technology we sold them during the Clinton Administration. We sold them the goods so we know they have them. Just like Iraq. A German magazine found 11 US corporations that sold WMD technology to the Iraqis and we had the receipts to prove it! So we accused them of having what we sold them.
You just can't make this schit up!
The West created modern China. Bertrand Russell had experimental schools there before the cultural revolution, and the Rockefellers had massive influence. Even now you can find Dave Rockefeller's NYT op Ed on how much he loved China. The idea that China is the west's enemy is just a Punch and Judy show for the masses. You don't built your enemy up financially with deals like NAFTA, etc.
Recall reding that after Rockefeller Pharmaceuticals birthed modern medicine as an outlet for their drugs, they then attacked natural medicine using the term quackery. There was indeed snake oil salesmen in those days but also a lot of innovative treatment occurring, treatments they couldn't cash in on. Relating to this topic though, China was then one of the earliest countries that got their attention, the same attacks natural medicine received in the US, acupuncture and Chinse herbalists then received in China as chemical drug based treatment was pushed as the modern approach. Allopathic drugs are indeed a boon for short term treatments or trauma victims, however a poor approach to chronic conditions as the side effects can be worse than the original problem. However the latter is where the real profits lie.
Huh? Have you heard of the Rockefeller Institute and Rockefeller University?
They contributed like the Chinese contributed to the West. They also contributed the biggest killer in the history of China! About 100 years ago the American Tobacco Company targeted China and addicted them to cigarettes, something which 40% of Chinese still suffer from. This has accounted for well over 100 million deaths in the past 100 years. What a great contribution. If only Preparation H worked against the pain and itching of American Hubris, Humbuggery, Hypocrisy, and Horseshxt . The new 4-H Club.
"people start realizing it was a big mistake"
Actually it was when they ran out of unwanted obsolete weapons they could sell at sky-high prices. I said then that support for the war would "drop like a rock." And it did, right on schedule.
If they still had inventory we'd be hearing that hard lessons had been learned and the coming winter offensive will surely do the trick.
It's all about money. Once you know that then it all becomes predictable.
Patrick Powers; And when it is all about money, life is cheap.
When Biden said to Zelensky "As long as it takes", he forgot to finish his sentence. He meant "As long as it take to depleat our stock of obsolete weapons".
I could not agree more with you Caitlin. The US and NATO are war mongers and constantly, with the help of the gutless mainstream media lay the ground for more war and destruction. Free Julian Assange.
Russia is the defender. The USA/NATO is the aggressor.
Putin cock holster much?
Someone seriously asked me recently what I thought about the possibility of China invading the US west coast. Likely that person listened to some radio talk show imbecile developing the concept. I found no words to respond.
You should have called me. I have those words handy.
russian_bot: Asians are now the largest immigrant group moving to California. This doesn't mean a Chinese invasion. Quite the opposite. The Chinese, especially the rich ones, are fleeing the CCP and China.
So, there is not a boatload of Chinese nationals in the western-most province of Canada?
Are there more Chinese nationals in the US or the reverse?
MIke: The Chinese buying up Vancouver, BC are laundering money from China including drug money. They are criminals, not an invasion force. If you don't want the Chinese in Vancouver, don't let them in. But it isn't up to you, is it?
I do not live there. I do not care if immigrants enter a nation legally. Just something I had heard. The ones you speak of, Canada would likely be better off without...without getting into should drugs be il/legal discussion.
Mike: I have friends who lived in Vancouver, BC. The Chinese have bought up many properties just for investments. They are empty. Other housing is taken up by immigrants, especially Ukrainians. The native Canadians, including my friends, had to move out of the city.
The rich Chinese bring money (bribes more or less). The State likes the dough.
May I expound? This is not directed at you, but this is a good place to add the below.
Those properties are empty today. Some very intelligent people do not understand the long game.
War is a ground acquisition game. That acquisition may be through violence, subterfuge, purchase or any other means.
Suppose "the US" wanted to take China with as little effort as possible. Would this not be a good way?
Get Americans by the millions into China legally. Establish businesses there, say American Restaurants. Establish "churches" there and stock them with weapons, effectively making the churches into weapon depots. Have fighting-age men by the millions migrate into China where they receive money and medical care from the benevolent Chinese government. Enlist other nations to do same...
Mike: I remember reading about the Opium Trade and the Boxer Rebellion in China. Lots of American and British families got rich (The Forbes Family of Boston e.g.) off of the Opium Trade. Then the foreign governments moved in and took over cities along the coast. Tsingtao was the German colony/city. Hence the Chinese beer Tsingtao.
Seems to me the Chinese are turning the tables on the USA and Europe with the cheap Fentanyl.
The blueprint is already there for taking over a country, drugs and moral collapse of the local population.
Thank you for that.
The state likes the dough. The state cares not for the people when push comes to shove.
They are empty today. Some very intelligent people do not understand the long game. I make no claim, but ask, will they be empty tomorrow?
It seems, sometime that some people ascribe bad to "us" but allow "them" to be unexamined.
I am no fan of imperial Americans but do not believe all the rest of the world to be less imperial.
I hope these criticizers are working to make change, not just point away from themselves.
Mike: I agree. The State cares not a whit about us peons. The bureaucrats and politicians don't even pretend to care about the workers and retirees, the sick, the poor, and the disappearing middle class.
The State (media is of course included) just seem to care about immigrants and war/coups in other countries.
Some loony context was provided details of which I forget as I dismissed it right away guessing where it was coming from.
TL;DR China moved too far up the value chain and got rich enough that it felt that it no longer had to meekly follow orders.
They didn't understand that their role was to work in toxic chemical sweatshops for fifty cents an hour. Huawei cutting into US profits meant war.
Sorry, I can't take seriouly anyone that thinks communism and fascism are synonymous...
You eloquently vented for me in this piece, Caitlin. Thank you for saying what I'm feeling and thinking. I think my therapist would thank you, too.