I’ll put Israelis in the “westerner” category and say, they absolutely know what war looks like. They have front row seats. While eating popcorn. So as much as I’d like to think “westerners” wouldn’t support war if they knew…I doubt it. Because it’s happening to brown people. They even ignored what happened to Good and Pretti so…
But have you seen the Israelis when a bomb falls on their neighbourhood? Wailing and screaming and scurrying like rats to their bunkers. A bit too much reality in that instance.
I remember in 2006 it was front page news with vision and pictures on the Seven Network in Australia when a Hezbollah rocket landed in the street and made a black mark and maybe broke a car window. 'Israelis' were taken in an ambulance suffering from "shock". Meanwhile 'Israeli' missiles were blowing up men, women, children and ambulances transporting the injured and - if it rated a mention at all - was done so with text only. Despicable.
“The civilized have created the wretched, quite coldly and deliberately, and do not intend to change the status quo; are responsible for their slaughter and enslavement; rain down bombs on defenseless children whenever and wherever they decide that their ‘vital interests’ are menaced, and think nothing of torturing a man to death; these people are not to be taken seriously when they speak of the ‘sanctity’ of human life, or the conscience of civilized world.” - James Baldwin - (August 2, 1924 – December 1, 1987)
This is the truth. I wouldn’t wish war on anyone, but sometimes I feel the people of the US needs just one small invasion, one day of bombs falling from the sky, one moments experience that matches even a fraction of life in a war zone , and the world would be a different place.
Sept. 11th....when an attack DID happen here? I heard during the weeks and months after NOT ONE thought or comment or reflection about our role as THE most prolific terrorist nation in the entire world. How WE caused the attack! WE ARE EVIL. EVIL, greedy, entitled 'murKKKaNS elect greedy, entitled dumbfuck leaders. CEOs, tech baby boys, the oligarchs are all fucking SOCIOPATHS. NO - NEVER - any consideration of cause and effect. Blowback. Only stupid, dumb fuck, entitled 'murKKKans react in horror....WHEN THOSE WE SLAUGHTER FIGHT BACK!! Well, fuck.. how dare they! They are to smile and lay rose petals at our feet...except they get incinerated from above. Not one fucking word. THE ONE most sickening, repulsive sentence blabbered about Srpt. 11: "They hate us because we're free..."
ONE THING I KNOW: IF I WERE A CITIZEN OF ANOTHER SOVEREIGN STATE AND SAW EVEN ONE FUCKING BODY SPLATTERED ON A STREET...I WOULD DEDICATE MY LIFE YO THE EXTINCTION OF THE AGGRESSOR. NO DOUBT. Revenge...would BECOME MY LIFE'S WORK. This evil now? There no longer are any words. This country and its fucking dumb moron people sicken me...sicken all the people of the world. Sicken and destroy our planet. I am unnerved by my RAGE. FUCK USRAYHELL ... a bond formalized in fucking BLOOD.
No need for an apology, mate. If just 25% of the men in "The West" had your cojones, the evil scum wouldn't have been able to pull off their Convid1984 vax atrocity.
I get what you said - no need to apologize - this is a natural reaction to war and killing fellow human beings. Thank you for feeling concern for others.
I’m old enough to have parents who were teenagers during WWII, in Europe. My dad was a 17-year old recruit from Fall River, Mass. My mom was a 16 year old German citizen then, who told me many stories. She was sitting in a bomb shelter with friends and neighbors when a bomb hit. After the dust cleared, and she looked around, the best friend who had been sitting directly next to her was a mangled corpse.
We are victims of our own violence. We have isolated ourselves from the horror that teaches not to make war. We ally with others like us so we may continue to ransack and over consume the world’s resources.
It wouldn’t. There’s been natural disasters here before, not the same thing but it gives you insight as to how they’d behave. They hoard shit and it’s every man for himself. Americans do not come together the way the rest of the world does. Don’t get me wrong the us should get nuked for sure but Americans will never change. There is not one ounce of humanity in them
It does not make the world a better place to stir up more hatred. some Americans stir up hatred but so do some of many other nationalities. That needs to stop. Everywhere.
I personally have never been affected by a life changing natural disaster,Thank You GOD,but I’ve seen plenty of coverage and read lots of news stories covering such tragedies and I say you’re wrong about the people you talk about. Do you know that there are organizations that specifically provide aid in such situations and I’m not talking about fema or the Red Cross.The North Carolina hurricane is one of the most recent examples of the community coming together to support one another. That being said, the gists of Caitlin’s article is spot on. americans don’t understand or comprehend the horror of war and they do selfishly and emotionally unattached cheer on the murder of mostly brown people and it disgust me. It makes me ashamed to be american.
I guess you've never encountered any mutual aid groups... Free food and free stores for all who are in need. There is still some humanity in the US. Just don't look for it in billionaires and their ilk.
Even among mutual aid groups they’re not all good people. You needn’t look further than Substack to see how the term mutual aid has been reinvented, there are a lot of grifters on here. I always hope when I meet someone new they will prove me wrong. I wish I was wrong. But the fact of the matter is the entire country is made up of narcissists. And that should not come as a surprise seeing what our society values compared to the rest of the world. This country is truly humanity at its absolute worst besides pissrel
“I am young, I am twenty years old; yet I know nothing of life but despair, death, fear, and fatuous superficiality cast over an abyss of sorrow. I see how peoples are set against one another, and in silence, unknowingly, foolishly, obediently, innocently slay one another.”
― Erich Maria Remarque, "All Quiet on the Western Front"
They dont care. They are racists. This is not a matter of if only they knew, the reality is they know and they couldnt care less. What did Madeleine Albright say when asked if 500,000 dead Iraqi children was worth it? "We think it was worth it" she said.
All that talk about human rights, liberty, self determination, peace, dignity and the rule of law is just a polished veneer covering up the depravity, racism, violence and lawlessness that actually defines "liberal" western "democracies". The best you gonna get is trash like Marjory Taylor Greene bemoaning how a couple of soldiers have died. She could not care less about the children that were butchered by the very machinery she defends. In that worldview, the only true victims are the aggressors. The rest are background noise.
We have spent the last 2 years watching a genocide live-streamed and life has gone on because the people killed were non white. Award shows went on, the Olympics were held, red carpets were rolled out. An entire people starved, bombed, and erased ion front of our eyes while the global calendar remained intact. Those who protested were sidelined, smeared, arrested, silenced. And now what do you got? Two colonies founded by vagrants with no roots of their own use the middle east with its ancient sites and rich history as their battleground to drop their toxic bombs and half the country is cheering it on like it’s a sporting event.
This is humanity's legacy and it's not a new one. And it sure isn't because people just dont understand the cost of it.
Yes, the U.S. leads the pack (and I am a USA’an), but much of the Western world shares the blame. Did you happen to hear, as just one example, the French ambassador to the U.N. placing blame on Iran alone without even mentioning Israel or the United States? This was at an “emergency” meeting of the U.N. on Saturday. His speech was just as vile as that of the Israeli representative. Denmark’s wasn’t much better, or Greece’s. None of them placed any blame on the U.S. or Israel at all — they didn’t so much as mention them. It’s as if Iran brought this attack on itself out of nowhere. So, if you are a citizen of a Western country, with the possible exception of Norway, or maybe Spain or Ireland, your country shares in the blame. Europe has been enabling the U.S. and Israel for decades. And we should all be out in our streets protesting this.
Right, Nancy. 'Straya's alleged leaders were damned fast to jump on the congratulatory bandwagon. We've crawled right up the fundament of Fatman Orange and his mate Mileikowski (Netanyahu's actual Polish name. He ain't Semitic at all.)
Absolutely. That is why I said Liberal Western democracies, which includes the EU. In fact the EU/UK are one of the worst offenders; they practically invented the franchise model of centuries of colonial looting, carving up continents, running slave trades, wiping out native populations.
European countries are US vassal states - they live and breathe because the US allows them. They are not going to say no to their masters. They are deeply racist too, especially against muslim nations. This is like a dream come true for them. I am not surprised one bit that they are cheering this on.
Which westerners? Tens of millions in the West oppose the war. A vast majority according to every poll. What were talking about here is not a problem of personal consciousness. We are dealing with the question of power. How do the wage slaves- overwhelmingly opposed to this and every other war since Iraq at least- take power from the Zio Imperialists? That is the only question today.
I believe it was Col. Larry Wilkerson said that warmonger extraordinaire “fat perfumed princess” Lady Lindsay Graham never suffered an injury more serious than a paper cut.
AmeriKKKans are going to know death and destruction when Civil War 2.0 commences; we need to.
I just had my first post on substack that ties into this. And the time to act is now, before war ends all of us, and before any more innocents are killed.
Can we have the video of Lindsey Graham with hookah in hand with his body cut in half and his blood and guts spurting out on the floor? Like now? Like right now? We need to witness his firsthand experience of war.
Imagine what it will be like for Americans to experience the same violence we've committed over the years. The rest of rhe world WILL eventually come for us and it will be horrifying. None will be spared, they'll run us down with dogs until we drop exhausted, nowhere to hide, no escape.
Unfortunately, the US has far too many morons who, low on IQ and high on toxic masculinity just like him, look at and listen to Pete Hegseth and go, "Yeah!"
This Orange fascist is a vile shameless coward first and foremost. Power, Violence, revenge, blood and Bent over sycophancy are the only things this corrupt old cunt cares about. Money money money for himself and his repellent sycophants and ugly family. He doesn't give a shit about the Iranians. Clearly the treasonous pig is in both Left and Right pockets of both ICC indicated war mongering cowards and thugs. All of the orange freak's voting base deserve to be lobotomized but they probably already were. Assholes. Morons. Cunts. Double tap is a foreign expression to the orange freak's base. Means give me another beer. Dumb cunts. War crimes by their war mongering coward leaders? WHO gives a shit right?
War arises from competition, and competition is a consequence of the hierarchical structure of all matter, as it developed approximately 380,000 years after the origin of the universe. To eliminate war and establish permanent universal peace, we must move from a hierarchical structure based on competition to a conarchic structure based on cooperation. It's possible. We just have to do it!
I’ll put Israelis in the “westerner” category and say, they absolutely know what war looks like. They have front row seats. While eating popcorn. So as much as I’d like to think “westerners” wouldn’t support war if they knew…I doubt it. Because it’s happening to brown people. They even ignored what happened to Good and Pretti so…
But have you seen the Israelis when a bomb falls on their neighbourhood? Wailing and screaming and scurrying like rats to their bunkers. A bit too much reality in that instance.
I remember in 2006 it was front page news with vision and pictures on the Seven Network in Australia when a Hezbollah rocket landed in the street and made a black mark and maybe broke a car window. 'Israelis' were taken in an ambulance suffering from "shock". Meanwhile 'Israeli' missiles were blowing up men, women, children and ambulances transporting the injured and - if it rated a mention at all - was done so with text only. Despicable.
“The civilized have created the wretched, quite coldly and deliberately, and do not intend to change the status quo; are responsible for their slaughter and enslavement; rain down bombs on defenseless children whenever and wherever they decide that their ‘vital interests’ are menaced, and think nothing of torturing a man to death; these people are not to be taken seriously when they speak of the ‘sanctity’ of human life, or the conscience of civilized world.” - James Baldwin - (August 2, 1924 – December 1, 1987)
This is the truth. I wouldn’t wish war on anyone, but sometimes I feel the people of the US needs just one small invasion, one day of bombs falling from the sky, one moments experience that matches even a fraction of life in a war zone , and the world would be a different place.
Sept. 11th....when an attack DID happen here? I heard during the weeks and months after NOT ONE thought or comment or reflection about our role as THE most prolific terrorist nation in the entire world. How WE caused the attack! WE ARE EVIL. EVIL, greedy, entitled 'murKKKaNS elect greedy, entitled dumbfuck leaders. CEOs, tech baby boys, the oligarchs are all fucking SOCIOPATHS. NO - NEVER - any consideration of cause and effect. Blowback. Only stupid, dumb fuck, entitled 'murKKKans react in horror....WHEN THOSE WE SLAUGHTER FIGHT BACK!! Well, fuck.. how dare they! They are to smile and lay rose petals at our feet...except they get incinerated from above. Not one fucking word. THE ONE most sickening, repulsive sentence blabbered about Srpt. 11: "They hate us because we're free..."
ONE THING I KNOW: IF I WERE A CITIZEN OF ANOTHER SOVEREIGN STATE AND SAW EVEN ONE FUCKING BODY SPLATTERED ON A STREET...I WOULD DEDICATE MY LIFE YO THE EXTINCTION OF THE AGGRESSOR. NO DOUBT. Revenge...would BECOME MY LIFE'S WORK. This evil now? There no longer are any words. This country and its fucking dumb moron people sicken me...sicken all the people of the world. Sicken and destroy our planet. I am unnerved by my RAGE. FUCK USRAYHELL ... a bond formalized in fucking BLOOD.
...only to those who "get it": I apologize fir the above disjointed, hysterical, unhinged rant. I AM RAW.
Quite understandable.
No need for an apology, mate. If just 25% of the men in "The West" had your cojones, the evil scum wouldn't have been able to pull off their Convid1984 vax atrocity.
❤️....thank you for your kindness...
I get what you said - no need to apologize - this is a natural reaction to war and killing fellow human beings. Thank you for feeling concern for others.
We get it, some of us.
I’m old enough to have parents who were teenagers during WWII, in Europe. My dad was a 17-year old recruit from Fall River, Mass. My mom was a 16 year old German citizen then, who told me many stories. She was sitting in a bomb shelter with friends and neighbors when a bomb hit. After the dust cleared, and she looked around, the best friend who had been sitting directly next to her was a mangled corpse.
We are victims of our own violence. We have isolated ourselves from the horror that teaches not to make war. We ally with others like us so we may continue to ransack and over consume the world’s resources.
It wouldn’t. There’s been natural disasters here before, not the same thing but it gives you insight as to how they’d behave. They hoard shit and it’s every man for himself. Americans do not come together the way the rest of the world does. Don’t get me wrong the us should get nuked for sure but Americans will never change. There is not one ounce of humanity in them
I’m going to generously refrain from cussing you the fuck out, “he/him”.
But don’t you DARE lump us all together.
I believe I just did. And if you werent like the 99.9 percent of Americans I’m referring to you would’ve agreed with me instead of being offended
I am not American and I find you offensive.
Thanks for letting me know Susan, I’m glad.
It does not make the world a better place to stir up more hatred. some Americans stir up hatred but so do some of many other nationalities. That needs to stop. Everywhere.
Are you an AmeriKKKan?
If so, then yer only hangin with jackasses like your damn self.
I was born amerikkkan yes. But this is not my home. Everything this country and its people stand for is fucking disgusting.
See my above comment.
Billionaires've rendered asunder
the unity we once Thought we had
and, yes, replaced it with 'every man for
hisself, and let the devil take the hindmost'
.
but we don't All buy into
The Big Lie they're
selling
.
and're just as
Disgusted
as you
are
I personally have never been affected by a life changing natural disaster,Thank You GOD,but I’ve seen plenty of coverage and read lots of news stories covering such tragedies and I say you’re wrong about the people you talk about. Do you know that there are organizations that specifically provide aid in such situations and I’m not talking about fema or the Red Cross.The North Carolina hurricane is one of the most recent examples of the community coming together to support one another. That being said, the gists of Caitlin’s article is spot on. americans don’t understand or comprehend the horror of war and they do selfishly and emotionally unattached cheer on the murder of mostly brown people and it disgust me. It makes me ashamed to be american.
I guess you've never encountered any mutual aid groups... Free food and free stores for all who are in need. There is still some humanity in the US. Just don't look for it in billionaires and their ilk.
Even among mutual aid groups they’re not all good people. You needn’t look further than Substack to see how the term mutual aid has been reinvented, there are a lot of grifters on here. I always hope when I meet someone new they will prove me wrong. I wish I was wrong. But the fact of the matter is the entire country is made up of narcissists. And that should not come as a surprise seeing what our society values compared to the rest of the world. This country is truly humanity at its absolute worst besides pissrel
I hope you find "good people" to hang with soon, but remember the old adage, "Those who look for perfection will find nothing but disappointment."
I don’t look for perfection. I’m looking for a different country, one that isn’t full of horrible fucking people who think their behavior is normal.
wow. unhinged fits you well.
Snark? If so...go away.
That it does.
“I am young, I am twenty years old; yet I know nothing of life but despair, death, fear, and fatuous superficiality cast over an abyss of sorrow. I see how peoples are set against one another, and in silence, unknowingly, foolishly, obediently, innocently slay one another.”
― Erich Maria Remarque, "All Quiet on the Western Front"
They dont care. They are racists. This is not a matter of if only they knew, the reality is they know and they couldnt care less. What did Madeleine Albright say when asked if 500,000 dead Iraqi children was worth it? "We think it was worth it" she said.
All that talk about human rights, liberty, self determination, peace, dignity and the rule of law is just a polished veneer covering up the depravity, racism, violence and lawlessness that actually defines "liberal" western "democracies". The best you gonna get is trash like Marjory Taylor Greene bemoaning how a couple of soldiers have died. She could not care less about the children that were butchered by the very machinery she defends. In that worldview, the only true victims are the aggressors. The rest are background noise.
We have spent the last 2 years watching a genocide live-streamed and life has gone on because the people killed were non white. Award shows went on, the Olympics were held, red carpets were rolled out. An entire people starved, bombed, and erased ion front of our eyes while the global calendar remained intact. Those who protested were sidelined, smeared, arrested, silenced. And now what do you got? Two colonies founded by vagrants with no roots of their own use the middle east with its ancient sites and rich history as their battleground to drop their toxic bombs and half the country is cheering it on like it’s a sporting event.
This is humanity's legacy and it's not a new one. And it sure isn't because people just dont understand the cost of it.
Yes, the U.S. leads the pack (and I am a USA’an), but much of the Western world shares the blame. Did you happen to hear, as just one example, the French ambassador to the U.N. placing blame on Iran alone without even mentioning Israel or the United States? This was at an “emergency” meeting of the U.N. on Saturday. His speech was just as vile as that of the Israeli representative. Denmark’s wasn’t much better, or Greece’s. None of them placed any blame on the U.S. or Israel at all — they didn’t so much as mention them. It’s as if Iran brought this attack on itself out of nowhere. So, if you are a citizen of a Western country, with the possible exception of Norway, or maybe Spain or Ireland, your country shares in the blame. Europe has been enabling the U.S. and Israel for decades. And we should all be out in our streets protesting this.
Right, Nancy. 'Straya's alleged leaders were damned fast to jump on the congratulatory bandwagon. We've crawled right up the fundament of Fatman Orange and his mate Mileikowski (Netanyahu's actual Polish name. He ain't Semitic at all.)
Absolutely. That is why I said Liberal Western democracies, which includes the EU. In fact the EU/UK are one of the worst offenders; they practically invented the franchise model of centuries of colonial looting, carving up continents, running slave trades, wiping out native populations.
European countries are US vassal states - they live and breathe because the US allows them. They are not going to say no to their masters. They are deeply racist too, especially against muslim nations. This is like a dream come true for them. I am not surprised one bit that they are cheering this on.
You’re right, Ginnie. Thanks.
Which westerners? Tens of millions in the West oppose the war. A vast majority according to every poll. What were talking about here is not a problem of personal consciousness. We are dealing with the question of power. How do the wage slaves- overwhelmingly opposed to this and every other war since Iraq at least- take power from the Zio Imperialists? That is the only question today.
I believe it was Col. Larry Wilkerson said that warmonger extraordinaire “fat perfumed princess” Lady Lindsay Graham never suffered an injury more serious than a paper cut.
AmeriKKKans are going to know death and destruction when Civil War 2.0 commences; we need to.
And the side of JUSTICE will kick ass again.
No mind wants to wrap around this horror; no healthy mind...
;-(
Dr John, if healthy minds refuse to wrap around this, who will?
Very good point, Gypsy.
It’s also the Orange rapist’s time honored presidential way of distracting from impeachment or jail.
I just had my first post on substack that ties into this. And the time to act is now, before war ends all of us, and before any more innocents are killed.
Can we have the video of Lindsey Graham with hookah in hand with his body cut in half and his blood and guts spurting out on the floor? Like now? Like right now? We need to witness his firsthand experience of war.
Imagine what it will be like for Americans to experience the same violence we've committed over the years. The rest of rhe world WILL eventually come for us and it will be horrifying. None will be spared, they'll run us down with dogs until we drop exhausted, nowhere to hide, no escape.
Unfortunately, the US has far too many morons who, low on IQ and high on toxic masculinity just like him, look at and listen to Pete Hegseth and go, "Yeah!"
Perfectly stated!
This Orange fascist is a vile shameless coward first and foremost. Power, Violence, revenge, blood and Bent over sycophancy are the only things this corrupt old cunt cares about. Money money money for himself and his repellent sycophants and ugly family. He doesn't give a shit about the Iranians. Clearly the treasonous pig is in both Left and Right pockets of both ICC indicated war mongering cowards and thugs. All of the orange freak's voting base deserve to be lobotomized but they probably already were. Assholes. Morons. Cunts. Double tap is a foreign expression to the orange freak's base. Means give me another beer. Dumb cunts. War crimes by their war mongering coward leaders? WHO gives a shit right?
War arises from competition, and competition is a consequence of the hierarchical structure of all matter, as it developed approximately 380,000 years after the origin of the universe. To eliminate war and establish permanent universal peace, we must move from a hierarchical structure based on competition to a conarchic structure based on cooperation. It's possible. We just have to do it!
It's fun - for the predators.
Sucks for the prey.
Cats understand both. Humans are used to only being predators.
Feral, this particular cat is looking forward to predating on warmongers.
With a thirty-ought-six.