Defending the indefensible. Israel's excuses and fabrications hearken me back to adolescence during a summer between sophomore and junior years of high school, the first time I stayed out on NYC streets drinking with friends until 3 or 4 a.m. Returning home and sneaking in the back door only worked for a moment as I was caught and confronted by my dad during the act of massively puking into the bathtub. My face drained of blood, my head pounding, I scrounged every synapse for an excuse, a rationale. But there was none to be had. That's you, Israel, except that my dad ultimately displayed compassion for my plight, a humane emotion completely lacking in your repertoire.
You painted a scenario of a healthier family dynamics..
USrAel is an abusive family dynamics..Israel is the abuser and USA is the enabler and we the people and Palestinians are the abused children beaten for questioning the beatings.
Hamas was one of the teenagers that punched dad in the mouth finnaly...now the fight is in...
Without question, truth will always suffice and always be used when truth furthers your position. Thank you Caitlin for your steadfast adherence to honesty and reason.
Trying to undo the sins of the nation state within the confines of the nation-state concept is likely to be unsuccessful. Part of what I want to do is to encourage more of us to think about new ways to think and act on this issue.
There must be a permanent ceasefire, not with Palestinians suffering under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
Nothing about this whole scenario makes any sense. Warned of the attack several times, ignored, and even when Egypt tells you only days before something's up, ignored. The warnings, all ignored, is ascribed to carelessness, even though Netanyahu in this very year has been dealing with charges of corruption that are bad enough to put his ass in jail. So Hamas carries out it's assault and many of the deaths initially ascribed to them are found out to be outright lies, or due to screw ups of the Israeli response. Somehow in the minds of many this sounds legit which gives credence to Israel's genocidal assault and fulfills Netanyahu's long time dream of a one state solution. Yes, and Santa Clause and his elves are working full time because Christmas is about to arrive. Well, for most that lie lasts until you're about 10.
Sadly, I don’t think Pope Francis is going to get himself involved. As with all religions, Catholicism is based on power and one religion is unlikely to criticise another religion on a stance such as this.
The Pope? Da Pope? The same Pope who said Klaus Schwab is more important than Jesus Christ! Then you wonder why the world has gone to shit - clearly he drank way to much Holy(shit) Water!
For that matter, if Ukraine really were having such success and Russia committing so many atrocities, why was it necessary to make so many easily disproven claims?
It seems that over 95% of the Jewish-Israeli population are consumed by hate and paranoia. (Max Blumenthal quotes a new poll where only 1.6% of the Israeli public thinks that the the IDF has used too much fire power.) I wonder if that has anything to do with occupying and oppressing the people whose land they stole, for 75 years?
There is a psychological tendency to become more emotionally defensive for an intellectual position part of you knows is likely flawed. It must take a lot to justify to yourself the mass murder of other human beings. Especially the mass murder of children.
It’s apparent that their moral compass is recalibrated the moment they’re born and every moment thereafter. That is the only explanation for an entire nation being morally bankrupt, man, woman, and child, save for 1.6%. It beggars belief, but we have enough evidence over the past two months to corroborate this truth. And just a reminder, this IS a nuclear armed terrorist state.
No such thing as polls today - all smoke and mirrors - I don't know why anyone quotes them especially Max although this one certainly doesn't bode well for the Jews - which is the intent
I am presently reading Gad Saad's book , The Parasitic Mind. It is all about truth and freedom and very worth reading. It is a very scary book because the lunatic fringe in our societies ,namely the elites, have decided they decide what truth and freedom is and know full well they can get away with anything. Netanyahu is another monster of our times as he knows this is a time in history when he can commit genocide and get away with it . Like numerous other war criminals he will never see the inside of a court room or the noose he deserves.
Netanyahu is a man who has been on trial this year, corruption charges bad enough for him to serve jail time. Information of a potential attack ignored several times creates a massacre, although exaggerated, which takes him and Israel on a killing spree that will give him what he has always wanted, a one state solution. One would think that after all our lying wars in the Middle East people, and journalists would be suspicious, but they're not. Interesting that we had to take down Gaddafi because he was committing a genocide, we so cared, and of course he was not. Everyone by now knows the US lied us into every war, but no one to question the validity of the genocide that is actually going on in Palestine.
Israel-Palestine war: Israel shut down NGO for reporting rape of teenager, ex-US official says
NGO Defense for Children International's offices were raided after they reported the sexual assault of a 15-year-old by an interrogator while in Israeli custody
Poor poor little Israel. Everyone is biased against them while they maintain only the highest of standards and take great care to treat everyone equally while being so so careful not to foment hatred. They only kill all those babies and destroy all those buildings, hospitals and cities because they are trying to protect people. And NOBODY seems to understand. Stupid anti semites.
"If your position is based on truth and morality, you don’t need to make up lies to defend it, and you don’t need to hurl false accusations at those who disagree with it... You can defend it in a truthful and moral way, instead of the exact opposite."
Amen! The lies are getting stale and the false accusations are breaking up families, friends, and organizations that could be doing positive things in the world. Stop the lying, Israel propagandists/apologists! It's for your own good. It's for EVERYONE'S good. Stop the bombing, stop the lying, stop the false accusations, call it a day and call a permanent ceasefire. Find what's left of your morality and make the peace stick.
I was at a store and casually said to a young person, please write to our congress people and the white house to stop the genocide of the Palestinian people. The reply, I am only one person what good would that do? Discussion time : ), I said my emails are half as powerful unless you write also. Eyes blink. I said together we are powerful and the Palestinian people need all our voices. They agree to write. I will not stop asking people to resist genocide. Talking works, Kristina sent me this email.
We met at the rally in defense of Gaza in Chicago in Evanston, my name is Kristina.
I want to invite you to the meeting hosted by the Socialist Equality Party and International Youth and Students for Social Equality this Thursday, December 7 @ 6pm - “The Global Fight Against Israel’s Genocide in Gaza: The way forward” at the Harold Washington Library (Loop/downtown) Meeting Room on the 8th floor.
If you are in the area please attend and support young people standing up : )
It’s clear that this situation is a propagandized event designed to capture the attention of the masses.
All we can do is awaken people to the illusion being pushed on us and be sure that we’re not giving all our attention to where they want it to go vs putting that attention on our friends, families and loved ones:
Israel took a turn for the More Monstrous after October 7, clearly. Unfortunately, many people will be confused by Israel's propaganda blitz to confuse all Jews with Israel. Part of the insidiousness of Israel's campaign is that they are in fact trying to stoke anti-Semitism which, in a fit of reverse psychology, somehow justifies all their crimes against Palestinians, who are defined a priori as "anti-Semites"--as if Palestinians weren't Semites themselves, which they obviously are.
Yes. If your position was based on science you wouldn't have to censor, discredit, demonetise, de-platform or sack anyone who disagrees with you. You would just debate them and show everyone they're wrong and you're right. If your position was based on science you wouldn't have to emotionally blackmail, coerce or bribe people into taking untested and unnecessary medications. If your position was based on science you wouldn't have to constantly reinforce the idea that locking up the elderly, limiting exercise, isolating people from community and preventing hugging were actually saving lives- because anyone with any common sense and/or has read the literature knows that the exact opposite of this is true.
One person here derided us who post on Caitlin's Newsletter as her echo chamber. If like Caitlin we value truth and justice and compassion - and through her Newsletter - we get to share it with other like minded human beings we are glad to be in her corner.
Whose echo chamber are you in Daniel? It must be terribly uncomfortable in there, to go on justifying the daily killings and destruction wrought by Israel; and the total disregard for any kind of human kindness. Are you sure that you are happy hearing the children cry? I can only imagine how being in there will addle your brain and harden your heart.
Will you be happy if the war expands into Lebanon as Netanyahu threatened this morning? He said - and this was on mainstream news - that he will turn Beirut into another Gaza!
Defending the indefensible. Israel's excuses and fabrications hearken me back to adolescence during a summer between sophomore and junior years of high school, the first time I stayed out on NYC streets drinking with friends until 3 or 4 a.m. Returning home and sneaking in the back door only worked for a moment as I was caught and confronted by my dad during the act of massively puking into the bathtub. My face drained of blood, my head pounding, I scrounged every synapse for an excuse, a rationale. But there was none to be had. That's you, Israel, except that my dad ultimately displayed compassion for my plight, a humane emotion completely lacking in your repertoire.
You painted a scenario of a healthier family dynamics..
USrAel is an abusive family dynamics..Israel is the abuser and USA is the enabler and we the people and Palestinians are the abused children beaten for questioning the beatings.
Hamas was one of the teenagers that punched dad in the mouth finnaly...now the fight is in...
Without question, truth will always suffice and always be used when truth furthers your position. Thank you Caitlin for your steadfast adherence to honesty and reason.
Trying to undo the sins of the nation state within the confines of the nation-state concept is likely to be unsuccessful. Part of what I want to do is to encourage more of us to think about new ways to think and act on this issue.
There must be a permanent ceasefire, not with Palestinians suffering under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
Please sign the petition and share widely.
https://chng.it/CRQ7qw4Gzn
This is one small thing we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.
Nothing about this whole scenario makes any sense. Warned of the attack several times, ignored, and even when Egypt tells you only days before something's up, ignored. The warnings, all ignored, is ascribed to carelessness, even though Netanyahu in this very year has been dealing with charges of corruption that are bad enough to put his ass in jail. So Hamas carries out it's assault and many of the deaths initially ascribed to them are found out to be outright lies, or due to screw ups of the Israeli response. Somehow in the minds of many this sounds legit which gives credence to Israel's genocidal assault and fulfills Netanyahu's long time dream of a one state solution. Yes, and Santa Clause and his elves are working full time because Christmas is about to arrive. Well, for most that lie lasts until you're about 10.
Yep, Susan.
Merry fucking Christmas, and happy fucking hannukah to all those stupid enough to believe this shit.
And a sincere Happy Solstice to my fellow believers.
Sadly, I don’t think Pope Francis is going to get himself involved. As with all religions, Catholicism is based on power and one religion is unlikely to criticise another religion on a stance such as this.
Pope Francis has already declared that Israhell’s attacks “have gone beyond war; they are a massacre”.
It is more than the Church of England has done, unless I’m mistaken. Not a squeak out of them.
At least two Christian denominations here—the Church of Christ and the Presbyterian Church— have embraced BDS.
Lip service Gyps!!
I hear you, but no criticism is involved. Being a witness is powerful in and of itself.
The Pope? Da Pope? The same Pope who said Klaus Schwab is more important than Jesus Christ! Then you wonder why the world has gone to shit - clearly he drank way to much Holy(shit) Water!
I've been saying this all along.
For that matter, if Ukraine really were having such success and Russia committing so many atrocities, why was it necessary to make so many easily disproven claims?
Hear anything from "The Ghost Of Kiev" lately?
He moved to Israel.
Now that was funny!!
It seems that over 95% of the Jewish-Israeli population are consumed by hate and paranoia. (Max Blumenthal quotes a new poll where only 1.6% of the Israeli public thinks that the the IDF has used too much fire power.) I wonder if that has anything to do with occupying and oppressing the people whose land they stole, for 75 years?
There is a psychological tendency to become more emotionally defensive for an intellectual position part of you knows is likely flawed. It must take a lot to justify to yourself the mass murder of other human beings. Especially the mass murder of children.
It’s apparent that their moral compass is recalibrated the moment they’re born and every moment thereafter. That is the only explanation for an entire nation being morally bankrupt, man, woman, and child, save for 1.6%. It beggars belief, but we have enough evidence over the past two months to corroborate this truth. And just a reminder, this IS a nuclear armed terrorist state.
No such thing as polls today - all smoke and mirrors - I don't know why anyone quotes them especially Max although this one certainly doesn't bode well for the Jews - which is the intent
If your position was based on truth and morality you wouldn't say bombing 8,000 babies is good actually
I am presently reading Gad Saad's book , The Parasitic Mind. It is all about truth and freedom and very worth reading. It is a very scary book because the lunatic fringe in our societies ,namely the elites, have decided they decide what truth and freedom is and know full well they can get away with anything. Netanyahu is another monster of our times as he knows this is a time in history when he can commit genocide and get away with it . Like numerous other war criminals he will never see the inside of a court room or the noose he deserves.
Netanyahu is a man who has been on trial this year, corruption charges bad enough for him to serve jail time. Information of a potential attack ignored several times creates a massacre, although exaggerated, which takes him and Israel on a killing spree that will give him what he has always wanted, a one state solution. One would think that after all our lying wars in the Middle East people, and journalists would be suspicious, but they're not. Interesting that we had to take down Gaddafi because he was committing a genocide, we so cared, and of course he was not. Everyone by now knows the US lied us into every war, but no one to question the validity of the genocide that is actually going on in Palestine.
It's the Social Darwinism!
https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/who-can-you-trust/corruption-in-government/msg1119/#msg1119
Israel Revokes UN Humanitarian Coordinator’s Visa for ‘Not Condemning Hamas’
https://www.globalresearch.ca/5842388-2israel-revokes-un-humanitarian-coordinator-visa-not-condemning-hamas/5842388
Israel-Palestine war: Israel shut down NGO for reporting rape of teenager, ex-US official says
NGO Defense for Children International's offices were raided after they reported the sexual assault of a 15-year-old by an interrogator while in Israeli custody
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-ngo-shut-down-reporting-sexual-assault-ex-us
Poor poor little Israel. Everyone is biased against them while they maintain only the highest of standards and take great care to treat everyone equally while being so so careful not to foment hatred. They only kill all those babies and destroy all those buildings, hospitals and cities because they are trying to protect people. And NOBODY seems to understand. Stupid anti semites.
Fascist hate for the truth and morality. From Biden to Bibbi. Thank you Caitlin!
Should be as obvious as 2+2.
That it’s not for so many is a jet engine loud testament to the power of the system and its pervasive propaganda techniques, conscious or otherwise….
It heartens me a lot to see just how many younguns are sidestepping it, on this particular issue at least :)
Amen Sister!!!
"If your position is based on truth and morality, you don’t need to make up lies to defend it, and you don’t need to hurl false accusations at those who disagree with it... You can defend it in a truthful and moral way, instead of the exact opposite."
Amen! The lies are getting stale and the false accusations are breaking up families, friends, and organizations that could be doing positive things in the world. Stop the lying, Israel propagandists/apologists! It's for your own good. It's for EVERYONE'S good. Stop the bombing, stop the lying, stop the false accusations, call it a day and call a permanent ceasefire. Find what's left of your morality and make the peace stick.
I was at a store and casually said to a young person, please write to our congress people and the white house to stop the genocide of the Palestinian people. The reply, I am only one person what good would that do? Discussion time : ), I said my emails are half as powerful unless you write also. Eyes blink. I said together we are powerful and the Palestinian people need all our voices. They agree to write. I will not stop asking people to resist genocide. Talking works, Kristina sent me this email.
We met at the rally in defense of Gaza in Chicago in Evanston, my name is Kristina.
I want to invite you to the meeting hosted by the Socialist Equality Party and International Youth and Students for Social Equality this Thursday, December 7 @ 6pm - “The Global Fight Against Israel’s Genocide in Gaza: The way forward” at the Harold Washington Library (Loop/downtown) Meeting Room on the 8th floor.
If you are in the area please attend and support young people standing up : )
It’s clear that this situation is a propagandized event designed to capture the attention of the masses.
All we can do is awaken people to the illusion being pushed on us and be sure that we’re not giving all our attention to where they want it to go vs putting that attention on our friends, families and loved ones:
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-the-average-american-should-stop
Israel took a turn for the More Monstrous after October 7, clearly. Unfortunately, many people will be confused by Israel's propaganda blitz to confuse all Jews with Israel. Part of the insidiousness of Israel's campaign is that they are in fact trying to stoke anti-Semitism which, in a fit of reverse psychology, somehow justifies all their crimes against Palestinians, who are defined a priori as "anti-Semites"--as if Palestinians weren't Semites themselves, which they obviously are.
Yes. If your position was based on science you wouldn't have to censor, discredit, demonetise, de-platform or sack anyone who disagrees with you. You would just debate them and show everyone they're wrong and you're right. If your position was based on science you wouldn't have to emotionally blackmail, coerce or bribe people into taking untested and unnecessary medications. If your position was based on science you wouldn't have to constantly reinforce the idea that locking up the elderly, limiting exercise, isolating people from community and preventing hugging were actually saving lives- because anyone with any common sense and/or has read the literature knows that the exact opposite of this is true.
One person here derided us who post on Caitlin's Newsletter as her echo chamber. If like Caitlin we value truth and justice and compassion - and through her Newsletter - we get to share it with other like minded human beings we are glad to be in her corner.
Whose echo chamber are you in Daniel? It must be terribly uncomfortable in there, to go on justifying the daily killings and destruction wrought by Israel; and the total disregard for any kind of human kindness. Are you sure that you are happy hearing the children cry? I can only imagine how being in there will addle your brain and harden your heart.
Will you be happy if the war expands into Lebanon as Netanyahu threatened this morning? He said - and this was on mainstream news - that he will turn Beirut into another Gaza!