The US is bound to lose and the Empire, like all empires before it, will collapse. All we can hope for that this collapse will occur before all of us collapse.
There is zero chance the US collapse doesn't affect billions of people because of how interconnected the global economy is. That said, I am still hoping for it because it's what is needed to change the power dynamic of civilization once and for all.
I'm with you on that, yes it will be painful for billions as you say, this is what happens when we let one country become too powerful over the others and once we rise up out of the ashes of what went before, we have to ensure it never happens again.
The ONLY pain I want to see is that of the WHITE western world..........I am pretty sure that other countries called "Banana Republics" by the USA/Western hegemons will survive.
IF you have not travelled the world you would know that NOT every country has accepted the USA.
NO one speaks of Indonesia which currently goes about it's business with total disregard to the USA.
Our earth is a big place........the arm of the USA/Israhell means nothing.
China reigns supreme here.
I have watched and learned..........is it possible that China will become like the USA/Israel. Yes.
Man does not know when to stop.
I have absolutely NO faith in human beings whatsoever.
China will, of course, do fine and rise from the ashes of the collapse of Western Civilization to become the next world's superpower. And in the end, Donald Trump will forever be known as the man who made it all happen.
The American government hasn’t turned over since Kennedy was assassinated. Even then it was a potential change of government that was nipped in the bud.
Absolutely right. Short-term governments indulge in short-term thinking, sometimes it barely qualifies as thinking, to suit election cycles. A problem in many countries.
I mean global civilization. Today it is characterized by an imperial hegemon fighting against growing poles of influence that approach power very differently. I think with hegemony extinct, a new global civilization can take shape for the first time in history. Even in America.
Hegemony will never become extinct as long as the dollar is the favored international currency, and that shows no likelihood of changing anytime soon. The global economy will protect the hegemony of the American banking system, and that means more wars and more plundering. But just like the American pilots ran out of targets in Iran, the CIA is going to exhaust social systems to regime change.
At some point the cost of enabling power projection that fits all potential circumstances will be too costly to sustain, but the neoliberals have a solution. Encircle Russia, and give Russia no options. Ukraine was a run-through.
The U.S. has already begun raiding Russian shadow fleets, which were set up to circumvent American sanctions. If the Russians engage the Americans in a sea war, they won’t prevail, especially while they’re still dealing with Ukraine.
So the best thing for the planet will be for the Americans to call Iran’s bluff, and destroy its vital infrastructure, and induce Iran to destroy all of the oil production in West Asia. This will guarantee a global depression that will trigger a currency collapse and change, and then gold may return as the global currency standard.
An infrastructure attack on Iran seems more likely by the day. But it's not because of forethought or strategic planning; it's happening because of an absence of it. The US is run by a president who lacks the ability to understand consequences because he's never faced them in his own life. He DEI'ed the most incompetent sycophants into all the positions of consequence. Everything points to him just shooting from the hip in a non-institutional, reactionary way. He's a goddamn spoiled child who never grew up or got his ass beat when he needed it.
And Iran did not issue a bluf, btw. The US threatened to annihilate Iranian civilization. Iran called the American bluff. They have outlined what the response to an infrastructure attack would be. That's not a threat.
The US uses very little crude from the Persian Gulf and it can re-source fertilizers and the small amount of other commodities it gets there. So the US has all the time in the world to bomb and destroy. It really faces little risk compared to other nations. America is there purely for Israel which has proven to be an effective overthrower of governments and destroyer of peoples. Dem or Republican on the WH, doesn't matter. That's why this is so fucked up.
It probably doesn't have all the time in the world. My understanding is that it cannot meet its own energy needs despite sitting on a lot of reserve because it didn't develop the sort of refineries to turn the raw reserve material into a usable form...because it was less profitable than importing it. So just from an energy standpoint, we probably don't have all the time in the world. Building refineries takes a certain amount of time. I don't know what the scale is but I imagine at least a couple of years. Just enough time to squeeze a World War in. But ignoring our domestic energy issue, the current energy crisis could cause shifts in tech stocks because the GCC countries are no longer turning a profit and Taiwan is increasingly likely to voluntarily repatriate with mainland China (because of the energy crisis). Most of the US economy's growth is due to AI investment. If that collapses, the US economy probably does too. The US does not have all the time in the world. It probably has very little time to course-correct to avert unstoppable collapse. That's to say nothing of internal political anger about the cost of living, which os being made worse (by the energy crisis). There's not a favorable way to spin the current situation.
"Even if the US wasn’t directly responsible for the Strait of Hormuz situation, it would still be the last country on earth with any business whining about it. They’re openly imposing a fuel blockade on Cuba while complaining that nobody should be allowed to block shipping lanes, for Christ’s sake."
And there's more: while (correct me if I'm mistaken) Iran is operating in its territorial waters, the usa, well.... obviously not.
"“Iran’s leaders must be made to understand that their lives literally depend on reaching a negotiated settlement to Trump’s liking. If they refuse to do so, they will be killed,” Thiessen writes.
At some point one of America’s enemies is going to assassinate a US official and my replies are going to be full of shrieking, outraged Americans acting like I’m the bad guy when I say Washington had it coming."
Fuck Thiessen.And fuck anyone who agreed with the New York Times calling for the death of all those Iranians that flew to Pakistan. Talk about showing their true colour's.
The difference is that the US is strong enough that they can simply brute force their will, punches notwithstanding. They'll go nuclear if that is what it takes.
To me Strength is having good morals, standing up to people like Netanyahu, choosing what is best for their people, not getting mouthy and thinking the only way out to stop feeling scared of the self made mess you're in, is to assassinate people out of the way to make you feel better about yourselves.
This is what weak but fundamentally decent people tell themselves to feel better. A comforting lie. Strength simply is power. The power to help yourself and defeat your enemies.
That is all.
I think one of the Palantir bros put it this way - western dominance is solely the result of the west being more ruthless and better at organized violence. There is nothing else to it.
Pompey put it thusly: "Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords."
The west's enemies keep on losing because they want to be nice and thus constantly hamstrings themselves. The west sees this as contemptible weakness and has no such qualms.
"You and I may get it, but most humans will not." Most of the Democrats I know (estimated at approximately 99%) don't get it or have any desire to get it. From time to time, I take the opportunity to demonstrate their blatant hypocrisy to them; they become angry with me.
I don't know about the 1830's, but in modern times our entire corporate media apparatus is compromised. It isn't a free press. It's heavily editorialized state propaganda made to look and sound like reporting. Part of the propaganda was to take over the political discussion and transform it into divisive cultural wedge issues. So Americans don't get along partly because they have been fed a steady diet of hatemongering bullshit since the Boomers were kids. It's why "communism" is a bad word. It's why we argue over bathrooms instead of cost of living. Our mainstream media whores are 1000% culpable for the America you see.
Democrats will continue to tell you they're better. Just like when Jimmy Carter was more humane, renegotiating the Panama canal treaty to screw that country.
No master of the empire has ever ruled without the phrase "he improved the climate for investment by American businesses".
Caitlin so right about the Dems. But people are so fixated on Trump (and rightly so) that the whole issue regarding the corruption of the Democratic party and DNC's hand-picked leaders who will replace Trump is marginalized. And so the descent continues for the US into a 2nd rate nation led by monied criminals, as nothing is being done about the corrupted two party system.
Well done for publishing and saying - Peace be upon you by Gaza and Jerusalem - Honour and victory are the allies of the axis of resistance and its allies, and humiliation and shame are for the axis of evil, Epstein Class (USA, Britain, France, Turkey, Qatar, UAE, NATO Governments, Zionist and Israel) and its allies.
"At some point one of America’s enemies is going to assassinate a US official and my replies are going to be full of shrieking, outraged Americans acting like I’m the bad guy when I say Washington had it coming."
It really does my heart good to see so many Americans standing against their own government and Israeli control of it. Time to oust the Zionists, get their evil dirty money out of your politics. Overturn Citizens United. Dont let Zionists get away with their Anti-Semitic slurs, they don't understand that Arabs are also Semites and Semitism refers to people who speak Semitic languages such as Arabic and Hebrew. Israel does not own Semitism, they use it as a slur against anyone who dislikes Israel, but it covers so much more. Stand up to these bastards and show them the way out!
I find it hard to believe how anyone in the USA can be deluded by the their government, be it it Republicans or Democrats, the only difference is that Trump an Co are gobshites and say everything loudly about what they thinking, with that extra psychotic touch.
There again I don't know how anyone in the UK can fall for our governments lies either, be they Labour, Conservatives, Liberal, Reform etc; more choices, more lies.
As to LEGO, I've just watched Rock ID Official, the Iranian bands latest one, singing about Trump, Netanyahu, the pedophiles in Congress, Epstein all put to one of the LEGO videos, so they're still rocking on YouTube. Happy days.
What if it's not about West vs East, but the Epstein class vs humanity?
What if the ruling families already control all the countries, and this is a plan to get us closer to Agenda 2030 with a biometric, electronic control grid?
The US is bound to lose and the Empire, like all empires before it, will collapse. All we can hope for that this collapse will occur before all of us collapse.
There is zero chance the US collapse doesn't affect billions of people because of how interconnected the global economy is. That said, I am still hoping for it because it's what is needed to change the power dynamic of civilization once and for all.
I'm with you on that, yes it will be painful for billions as you say, this is what happens when we let one country become too powerful over the others and once we rise up out of the ashes of what went before, we have to ensure it never happens again.
Hi Veronica.
The ONLY pain I want to see is that of the WHITE western world..........I am pretty sure that other countries called "Banana Republics" by the USA/Western hegemons will survive.
IF you have not travelled the world you would know that NOT every country has accepted the USA.
NO one speaks of Indonesia which currently goes about it's business with total disregard to the USA.
Our earth is a big place........the arm of the USA/Israhell means nothing.
China reigns supreme here.
I have watched and learned..........is it possible that China will become like the USA/Israel. Yes.
Man does not know when to stop.
I have absolutely NO faith in human beings whatsoever.
China will, of course, do fine and rise from the ashes of the collapse of Western Civilization to become the next world's superpower. And in the end, Donald Trump will forever be known as the man who made it all happen.
Well I think the Chinese deserve credit for their own rise. But yes Trump is the clown that knocked over the first domino to collapse western empire.
Turns out having a government that doesn't turn over every 4 or 8 years is kind of an advantage.
Agree.
The American government hasn’t turned over since Kennedy was assassinated. Even then it was a potential change of government that was nipped in the bud.
Absolutely right. Short-term governments indulge in short-term thinking, sometimes it barely qualifies as thinking, to suit election cycles. A problem in many countries.
Western civilization.
I mean global civilization. Today it is characterized by an imperial hegemon fighting against growing poles of influence that approach power very differently. I think with hegemony extinct, a new global civilization can take shape for the first time in history. Even in America.
Hegemony will never become extinct as long as the dollar is the favored international currency, and that shows no likelihood of changing anytime soon. The global economy will protect the hegemony of the American banking system, and that means more wars and more plundering. But just like the American pilots ran out of targets in Iran, the CIA is going to exhaust social systems to regime change.
At some point the cost of enabling power projection that fits all potential circumstances will be too costly to sustain, but the neoliberals have a solution. Encircle Russia, and give Russia no options. Ukraine was a run-through.
The U.S. has already begun raiding Russian shadow fleets, which were set up to circumvent American sanctions. If the Russians engage the Americans in a sea war, they won’t prevail, especially while they’re still dealing with Ukraine.
So the best thing for the planet will be for the Americans to call Iran’s bluff, and destroy its vital infrastructure, and induce Iran to destroy all of the oil production in West Asia. This will guarantee a global depression that will trigger a currency collapse and change, and then gold may return as the global currency standard.
Then there will be no hegemon.
An infrastructure attack on Iran seems more likely by the day. But it's not because of forethought or strategic planning; it's happening because of an absence of it. The US is run by a president who lacks the ability to understand consequences because he's never faced them in his own life. He DEI'ed the most incompetent sycophants into all the positions of consequence. Everything points to him just shooting from the hip in a non-institutional, reactionary way. He's a goddamn spoiled child who never grew up or got his ass beat when he needed it.
And Iran did not issue a bluf, btw. The US threatened to annihilate Iranian civilization. Iran called the American bluff. They have outlined what the response to an infrastructure attack would be. That's not a threat.
The US uses very little crude from the Persian Gulf and it can re-source fertilizers and the small amount of other commodities it gets there. So the US has all the time in the world to bomb and destroy. It really faces little risk compared to other nations. America is there purely for Israel which has proven to be an effective overthrower of governments and destroyer of peoples. Dem or Republican on the WH, doesn't matter. That's why this is so fucked up.
It probably doesn't have all the time in the world. My understanding is that it cannot meet its own energy needs despite sitting on a lot of reserve because it didn't develop the sort of refineries to turn the raw reserve material into a usable form...because it was less profitable than importing it. So just from an energy standpoint, we probably don't have all the time in the world. Building refineries takes a certain amount of time. I don't know what the scale is but I imagine at least a couple of years. Just enough time to squeeze a World War in. But ignoring our domestic energy issue, the current energy crisis could cause shifts in tech stocks because the GCC countries are no longer turning a profit and Taiwan is increasingly likely to voluntarily repatriate with mainland China (because of the energy crisis). Most of the US economy's growth is due to AI investment. If that collapses, the US economy probably does too. The US does not have all the time in the world. It probably has very little time to course-correct to avert unstoppable collapse. That's to say nothing of internal political anger about the cost of living, which os being made worse (by the energy crisis). There's not a favorable way to spin the current situation.
I'd say that was a precise weighing up of the situation.
"US has little risk." Forgive me for laughing.
At the present moment the UNITEDSTATES of Israhell is very busy building 'data centers' in many States.
Please talk to me about Data Centers: Where is the decrepit electricity and water coming from to keep these centers going?
Has the USA updated it's infrastructure whilst they have been fighting wars. NO!
"Even if the US wasn’t directly responsible for the Strait of Hormuz situation, it would still be the last country on earth with any business whining about it. They’re openly imposing a fuel blockade on Cuba while complaining that nobody should be allowed to block shipping lanes, for Christ’s sake."
And there's more: while (correct me if I'm mistaken) Iran is operating in its territorial waters, the usa, well.... obviously not.
Cuba, did you see they're rockin' t.shirts with "fight like an Iranian" on the front.
Right never had anything to do with it. This is a question of power. Nothing more.
Yup. Me, too...250 years of a terrorist scourge....
Let's not pretend that the Americans didn't inherit Western imperialism from the Europeans. This shit goes back before 1776.
they took the reins and ran with it
"“Iran’s leaders must be made to understand that their lives literally depend on reaching a negotiated settlement to Trump’s liking. If they refuse to do so, they will be killed,” Thiessen writes.
At some point one of America’s enemies is going to assassinate a US official and my replies are going to be full of shrieking, outraged Americans acting like I’m the bad guy when I say Washington had it coming."
American soft power, in a nutshell.
You and I may get it, but most humans will not.
Fuck Thiessen.And fuck anyone who agreed with the New York Times calling for the death of all those Iranians that flew to Pakistan. Talk about showing their true colour's.
Washington has definitely got it coming.
I believe it was the Washington Post but your point still stands.
Hell, fuck em both
Could have been, I'll admit I could have got the name wrong.
Because they can. Washington simply acts this way because they are strong and because they can.
As a wise man once said, "Everyone has a plan 'til they get punched in the face."
The difference is that the US is strong enough that they can simply brute force their will, punches notwithstanding. They'll go nuclear if that is what it takes.
Which proves how weak they really are.
Not really. The West will get what they want and their enemies will be dead.
Brother Mike
Goat
Pure fighting, probably Yes
Historical significance, advantage Ali
To me Strength is having good morals, standing up to people like Netanyahu, choosing what is best for their people, not getting mouthy and thinking the only way out to stop feeling scared of the self made mess you're in, is to assassinate people out of the way to make you feel better about yourselves.
This is what weak but fundamentally decent people tell themselves to feel better. A comforting lie. Strength simply is power. The power to help yourself and defeat your enemies.
That is all.
I think one of the Palantir bros put it this way - western dominance is solely the result of the west being more ruthless and better at organized violence. There is nothing else to it.
Pompey put it thusly: "Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords."
I like the Pompey quote.
I don't see that as real strength, that's just bullying others to fall in line.
It is bullying. It works.
The west's enemies keep on losing because they want to be nice and thus constantly hamstrings themselves. The west sees this as contemptible weakness and has no such qualms.
Gladio ferit
Gladio perit
The Roman Empire was able to keep it up for 50p 500 years, more or less.
"You and I may get it, but most humans will not." Most of the Democrats I know (estimated at approximately 99%) don't get it or have any desire to get it. From time to time, I take the opportunity to demonstrate their blatant hypocrisy to them; they become angry with me.
It's called: Comfortably numb. Thank you Roger Waters.
Great song.
Another one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh6cvHC81Q8
Thanks for that, definitely should have had a lot more views than seven and a half thousand.
Tocqueville noted in the 1830's that Americans were averse to any criticism and that it provoked angry responses from them. Has anything changed ???
I don't know about the 1830's, but in modern times our entire corporate media apparatus is compromised. It isn't a free press. It's heavily editorialized state propaganda made to look and sound like reporting. Part of the propaganda was to take over the political discussion and transform it into divisive cultural wedge issues. So Americans don't get along partly because they have been fed a steady diet of hatemongering bullshit since the Boomers were kids. It's why "communism" is a bad word. It's why we argue over bathrooms instead of cost of living. Our mainstream media whores are 1000% culpable for the America you see.
I will join you Feral.
I'm right there with you on this.
re: "I Hope The US Loses And The Empire Collapses…"
Anyone with a shred of morality and understanding of colonial, imperial history should agree.
I know I do.
As always - much love to you.
Democrats will continue to tell you they're better. Just like when Jimmy Carter was more humane, renegotiating the Panama canal treaty to screw that country.
No master of the empire has ever ruled without the phrase "he improved the climate for investment by American businesses".
Caitlin so right about the Dems. But people are so fixated on Trump (and rightly so) that the whole issue regarding the corruption of the Democratic party and DNC's hand-picked leaders who will replace Trump is marginalized. And so the descent continues for the US into a 2nd rate nation led by monied criminals, as nothing is being done about the corrupted two party system.
Such convenient theater in which both criminal parties can flourish (in their lying to their constituents).
Yup. A few self-serving and hypocritical human rights noises. Otherwise no difference.
Yeah, and millions of humans all over the world.
A ‘loss’ for USreal would be a major win for the American people.
Well done for publishing and saying - Peace be upon you by Gaza and Jerusalem - Honour and victory are the allies of the axis of resistance and its allies, and humiliation and shame are for the axis of evil, Epstein Class (USA, Britain, France, Turkey, Qatar, UAE, NATO Governments, Zionist and Israel) and its allies.
100% Caitlin
"At some point one of America’s enemies is going to assassinate a US official and my replies are going to be full of shrieking, outraged Americans acting like I’m the bad guy when I say Washington had it coming."
Ahmen, Ahmen, Ahmen.
iran was already skipping the middle man with its list of 10+ us corporations.
It really does my heart good to see so many Americans standing against their own government and Israeli control of it. Time to oust the Zionists, get their evil dirty money out of your politics. Overturn Citizens United. Dont let Zionists get away with their Anti-Semitic slurs, they don't understand that Arabs are also Semites and Semitism refers to people who speak Semitic languages such as Arabic and Hebrew. Israel does not own Semitism, they use it as a slur against anyone who dislikes Israel, but it covers so much more. Stand up to these bastards and show them the way out!
When the US started rattling in January and sending weapons into the region I hoped they would attack because they would lose.
The pain now is worth it for the end of not only the USA but also Europe and the white nations that have tried to destroy the planet.
Counties that normally feed the north and west before their own people need to rethink and change their supply to care for each other first
I find it hard to believe how anyone in the USA can be deluded by the their government, be it it Republicans or Democrats, the only difference is that Trump an Co are gobshites and say everything loudly about what they thinking, with that extra psychotic touch.
There again I don't know how anyone in the UK can fall for our governments lies either, be they Labour, Conservatives, Liberal, Reform etc; more choices, more lies.
As to LEGO, I've just watched Rock ID Official, the Iranian bands latest one, singing about Trump, Netanyahu, the pedophiles in Congress, Epstein all put to one of the LEGO videos, so they're still rocking on YouTube. Happy days.
What if it's not about West vs East, but the Epstein class vs humanity?
What if the ruling families already control all the countries, and this is a plan to get us closer to Agenda 2030 with a biometric, electronic control grid?
Sounds about right to me.
Good point. The Iranian Parliament building is a Freemasonic structure.