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Susan T's avatar

Iran winning means we all win against a regime that is tyrannical and authoritarian toward its own people as well as the rest of the world.

EllE's avatar

If you are an EU citizen please consider signing the petition to suspend the EU-Israel association agreement on the EU website. Please spread the word of the petition. Just put ‘petition to suspend EU-Israeli association agreement’ in to your web browser and you should find it pretty easily,- or use the link below-.

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/055/public/#/screen/home

Ismaele's avatar

Happy to sign, but do not expect it will change anything! These petitions, like elections, have been designed to make you think that you have a voice and can control your government or supranational bodies. SPOILER ALERT: you may have a voice, but it will not be heard, and you can control neither your government nor supranational bodies.

If we want to change the system we live in, we need to start unionising and organizing ourselves to get rid of the parasitic pedo elites (the so-called Epstein elite/class/coaliation/regime) in power in Europe and in America.

Marci Sudlow's avatar

Pessimistically I agree with you, but I hope we're both wrong.

Frank Sailor's avatar

Well said, Ismaele! Their 'democracy' is designed to get us nowhere.

martin's avatar

one needs to tick all boxes and force them to show their disingenuity. thumbs up for signing.

EllE's avatar

Total signatures 1,228,200

1,228,200 signatures towards 1,500,000 goal (target number set by the organisers to cater for any statements of support that might be invalidated by the Member States during the verification process)

For a European citizens' initiative to be valid, it must obtain at least one million valid signatures and meet the minimum thresholds in at least seven countries.

elena the red's avatar

The only war USA is winning is the war on USA citizens

David Baird's avatar

Damn right, Elena! It would be appropriate for the following to be emblazoned across the White House: THE DONALD J TRUMP MEMORIAL CENTRE FOR THE PERFORMING ARSE. Given the over-generous proportions of his gluteal mass, and his shitty, appalling, despotic behaviour generally, he seems more than qualified for such recognition.

Aamir Razak's avatar

true elena, a most disappointing "win" too as it's to the detriment of the citizen

Martin's avatar

Thank you Caitline:

You make an excellent point non of us should forget:

"Westerners love to whine about how tyrannical and authoritarian Iran’s government is, but it’s worth noting that the control Tehran exerts within its borders is a major reason US-Israeli efforts to turn the nation into a giant Libya have failed. That control exists to thwart precisely the type of existential foreign threat that Iran just thwarted. Were it not for that existential foreign threat, such control wouldn’t be necessary."

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"I hope Iran keeps winning. I hope all of the empire’s enemies succeed in thwarting its ambitions of planetary domination." Amen to that.

Article liked and restacked.

Mary Wildfire's avatar

Well. On the one hand, Iran's government is genuinely tyrannical and the resistance is genuine. On the other, the attacks cause the citizens to rally round the flag, and moves toward religious moderation to cease. My neighbor years ago was a man who had joined the CIA in '53 and went to Iran, where he had a minor role in the coup, hiding a public official in his shower; but then, seeing what the CIA was really about he quit and went back to Vermont to be a chicken farmer. He said that Mossadegh was educating girls--but he nationalized Iran's oil so the British company that had been exploiting it put the US up to deposing him and installing the murderous Shah. So Iran was Muslim but moderate before western interference caused the hardliners to win.

Tom High's avatar

The capitalists’ goal is always complete control. Period. Caitlin laid out the hypocrisy of the Iranian tyrannical regime trope well.

".... every socialist experiment in the 20th century - without exception - has been crushed, overthrown or invaded or corrupted, perverted or destabilized or otherwise had made life impossible for it, by the US. Not one socialist gov't or movement ... was permitted to rise or fall on its own merits; not one was left secure enough to drop its guard against its all powerful enemy abroad and freely and fully relax control at home.

It's as if the Wright brothers first experiments with flying machines all failed because automotive interests sabotage each test flight. And, then the good, God-fearing folk of the world looked upon them, took notice of the consequences, nodded their heads and wisely intoned solemnly 'man will never fly' " .. This is from Wm Blum "Killing Hope: US military and CIA Interventions since WWII" 2004

Peter Sire's avatar

It would be interesting if you expanded on the specifics that contribute to your judgement of Iran as "genuinely tyrannical"

Mary Wildfire's avatar

A man from Louisiana University was writing a book about the 1979 revolution, I think, and he came to interview my neighbor about his experience in '53. He had gone to Iran as part of his research. This was at a time when the regime outlawed all music except religious music, and women had to go in full chador. He said that he knew of a case of a woman whose "eyes were too pretty"--that being the only part of her you could see--so they put her eyes out.

Then there was the book last year, Reading Lolita in Tehran, which describes a very repressive society--repressive against WOMEN in particular. I also heard that women after the revolution were not allowed to do various professional work, so widows might be reduced to prostitution even if they had a degree. Note that I also recently read that most university students are women--just as in the US. Perhaps things have relaxed, and it's possible that the Reading book is propaganda. I also recently read, though, someone in Iran just before the war started, talking to people who wanted the war in hopes of deposing the government.

Tom High's avatar

I’d like to see our current government, including both political parties of the duopoly, deposed. Most things written about Iran by westerners is propaganda. Most citizens in the U.S. are debt slaves; they think being able to buy the latest digital gadget equals freedom. Very few governments in our current geopolitical landscape put people welfare over profit in the economic policy realm.

Feral Finster's avatar

https://annebonnypirate.org/2021/08/17/afghanistan-the-end-of-the-occupation/

More relevant than it may seem, especially as Iran has had women government officials and the like.

Peter Sire's avatar

You may find the first 30 mins of this video enlightening with regard to your perceptions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su24x_iAsro

Mary Wildfire's avatar

Yes, that was very interesting. But we still need explanation for the massive protests--I know the US and Israel worked to fan the flames but protests that size don't come entirely via external manipulation.

Peter Sire's avatar

You're right - this was covered in one of Caitlin's earlier posts The protests didn't start because of human rights but because economic problems stemming from sanctions and more immediately from a sudden drop in the value of the rial, deliberately engineered by the US as Scott Bessent admitted and then turned into riots by the agents provocateurs you refer to. Here's Caitlin's story https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-number-of-dead-iranian-protesters

Just Sayn's avatar

Iran should be extremely careful. There is a very high probability that the Israel/US terrorist cartel will try another decapitation strike. Whether in Iran or en route to Switzerland. Electronic communications such as Starlink are used to track, locate, record and target. Spies/Traitors abound and all telephone systems / Internet are vulnerable.

g4rg4ntu4's avatar

The rogue US regime is in a precarious position - the very global system that the rogue US regime has established in the post war years is collapsing under the weight of it's own mismanagement, and abuse. The debt of the rogue US regime is no longer seen as safe because their currency is seen as virtually valueless due to inflation, etc. After the SpaceX debacle their markets are about to go pop. Their virtual economy has long ceased to have any real meaning in the real world. They have weaponized everything and are now in the process of consuming themselves. All that could go wrong is going wrong. They have sent their best people to fix the numerous problems, and they have fixed them for sure.

All the rogue US regime has left is optics, which is the only thing they still have some small amount of control over through their extensive media / propaganda wing. Without the appearance of being a functioning country global investment would leave them in an instant - indeed the world is in the process of divesting itself from the rogue US regime, and is waiting for that one event or indicator to completely jump ship to other safe locations. But no matter how much the rogue US regime paints a picture of calm and stability, the figures don’t lie. The panic is clear. The end is nigh. And the world is heaving a sigh of relief.

It should be clear that celebrations are premature – while everyone rightfully enjoys the spectacle of the rogue US regime getting a bloody nose in a conflict of it’s own creation, and very publicly capitulating so ignominiously, I don't see this "peace" holding for longer than a few days or weeks. The real purpose of the Memorandum of Understanding was not to end the conflict and bloodshed in West Asia, but to temporarily calm the markets, and possibly to also make the rogue US regime appear to be in control at the G7 meeting (to the extent that a country led by a criminal paedophile can appear in control of anything) – at this point optics is the most important thing because optics is the only thing the rogue US regime still has control over, and of course bad optics will precipitate the end sooner rather than later.

Like the unwanted guest at a party, the organized crime outfit masquerading as a country known affectionately to the global majority and the civilized world as the rogue US regime is on the way out, but don’t for a moment think that it will ever behave with dignity or humanity before finally leaving.

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Don't let your kids Die for Israel. Cancel it.

g4rg4ntu4's avatar

Don't let them die for Ukraine either - or any of the proxies of the rogue US regime. Cut the head off the snake and the proxies will cease to be relevant.

David Baird's avatar

An excellent comment, Gargantua. The sheer incompetence, the massive graft and corruption, the ICE brutalising of the population, and the 'refining' of the electoral process, will combine to bring down the rotting edifice that is dRumpfworld. I hope. It won't be pretty. It will be messy and painful, but when people have had a sufficient gutful and have nothing to lose......

SaHiB's avatar

Heil Edward Bernays, et al.?

Hassan Al-Mosawi's avatar

Peace be upon you by Gaza and Jerusalem - Honour and victory are the allies of the axis of resistance and its allies, and humiliation and shame are for the axis of evil, Epstein Class (USA, Britain, France, Turkey, Qatar, UAE, NATO Governments, New Nazi, Masonic, Zionist and Israel) and its allies.

John Turcot's avatar

Just curious …. But is there “peace “ for rejecting Islam if born in the Islamic faith, or no peace? Can someone reject the prophet Mohammed, and live in “peace”?

Still curious????

Frank Sailor's avatar

Why is this relevant and for whom? Why should Islam bow to western so called values? They were already progressive and developed as the West were burning people at the stake and run around stinky, bigot and superstitious, fought against science and was proud of being ignorant, just like in the here and now.

John Turcot's avatar

Are the questions I asked not worth an answer? Are you free? Or are you obliged to follow religious philosophy?

Just asking?????

Hassan Al-Mosawi's avatar

Arrogance, delusion, tyranny, exaggeration, injustice, betrayal, lack of sincerity in work, not forbidding evil, transgression of human law, espionage, lying, show off, hypocrisy, bribery, insults, calling names, corruption, extremism, intolerance, genocide, and discrimination (racism, nationalism, tribalism, sectarianism, and politics) and disbelief and tyranny are an immoral stances - because religion is a moral behaviours He who does not have has no religion.

John Turcot's avatar

“He who does not have has no religion”

Does not make any sense.

“Religion is a moral behaviour” ? According to who? And why do you always seem to use a male “he”. , in your rhetoric? Why not She? Or is that a permitted question?

You still have not answered my question”is is ok to criticize the prophet Mohammed”? Or is there no freedom to do so?

What is “peace” in your perspectives ?

Frank Sailor's avatar

I am free of any religion and peace is simple: do no harm, cooperate, be kind.

But still your Mohammed question makes no sense to me.

What freedom are you talking about?

Freedom means nothing left to lose.

Freedom has no meaning if you can't define it.

He or she is meaningless also since man & women are human - why the distinction? To create artificial division? Men & women are to complete each other and be happy together.

SaHiB's avatar

FWIW, "Islam" (Salem) means conquest and submission. I prefer Zoroastrianism.

John Turcot's avatar

No comprende senior. Whatever it is that you espouse all the power to you. “Zoroastrianism”… is that a language for you?

SaHiB's avatar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism

The Magi, who funded Jesus' escape of the slaughter of the innocents, were Zoroastrians.

David's avatar

Is it any surprise that the nation that preaches freedom and democracy failed on both counts and is terrorizing the rest of the world to adopt its brutal predatory capitalist system?

M F's avatar

On the whole the Empire is a big loser. It segues from one retreat to another, ever proclaiming its superiority economic, political and--most farcically--moral. The military industrial complex and Wall Street decade after decade sap the blood and sweat out of a hardworking populace. The bill is long overdue.

Davina's avatar

Just as though it were a three-year-old testing its boundaries. The other, much, much older countries should be good parents and punish appropriately these tantrums that are harming and hurting, plus killing far too many. All for the money they believe is there's by right of theft.

M F's avatar

Not sure that those older countries are innately any better. They behaved similarly, when they were Empires.

MV's avatar

"...the only nations who are able to resist absorption into the imperial blob are the ones who are willing and able to exert control over what happens inside their borders. If the US and its allies weren’t constantly working to subvert and topple all unabsorbed nations, this “authoritarianism” wouldn’t be needed to resist it..."

The imperial blob. Perfect! And yes, Iran is one of the only ones who's successfully stood against being absorbed by it.

Jeck's avatar
Jun 17Edited

The USA is controlled by globalist Zionist forces, and these forces have been waging for decades a comprehensive war of subversion, false flag attacks, and ever-expanding control against the USA itself, which now functions for them as a giant stupid wealthy bully. The USA must not fall, but instead must wake up to the real enemy, the malignant narcissist "friend", in order to defeat their satanic planned future destruction of humanity.

A crushing defeat of the USA would be a victory for evil.

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

One State Palestine

Spencer Gray's avatar

I’m here for it! nt. What matters is weakening empire, the system that starves, sanctions, and dominates entire populations for control.

If the U.S. is losing its grip, that’s a crack in that system. But the real victory isn’t one government “winning” it’s people everywhere getting a little more room to breathe outside imperial control.✊

MaryJane's avatar

It's a really good point because to win against someone so evil and murderous you have to be some sort of tyrant yourself, a mild-mannered democratic intellectual is simply not up to the task. The empire literally breeds "dictators" (strong leaders) in targeted countries because that's just how natural selection works - you become strong in the face of dangers, or you perish

Davina's avatar

But who has forced the US into so many wars in West Asia, because it could not win any of them on its own? Israel, the zionist built state that wants to rule the world and thinks it already rules the US. Two infant countries trying to destroy countries that have thousands of years of history behind them, while the inbetweenies sit back, supply aid illegally and hope they both blow themselves into oblivion.

Indu Abeysekara's avatar

MaryJane, What Caitlin outlines in today's excellent piece is exactly what happened from the very outset of brutal empires. The British, the French and other western powers plundered, pillaged, starved and killed and were barbarians to the nations they subjugated. They carried out ethnocide, ecocide, genocide much as Israel is doing right now - aided and abetted by the old colonialists - and the US who took up where they left off.

Nations have to fight back if they are to be free of this barbarity. Which the newly de-colonised countries failed to do as most of the good nationalist leaders who came up were ruthlessly cut down. The old became new again. But with Iran's bravery, things might change.