“It’s because the US-centralized empire is the most tyrannical power structure on earth, and the only ones able to resist its agendas of total planetary domination are the ones who are willing to use force to thwart its efforts.” —-
Pretend that those growing percentages of Americans who now oppose Israel actually means something significant in terms of opposition, that these people are really paying attention to the larger issue of US imperialism rather than simply displaying a bit of sympathy for dead children. While the sympathy's nice, the deep realizations are absent in lots of these folks.
US public opposition to the genocide in Gaza and the war in Iran is vital to stopping the genocide and replacing a regime of war mongers with a chance to change course. You can lend a hand or get out of the way. A term like "simply displaying a bit of sympathy for dead children" is callous and ignorant. The anti-war movement is alive and growing and there is a depth to it, demonstated by the democratic socialist campaign to expose the rule of oligarchy to be replaced. The opposition to mock is real and deep. You can support it or undermine it, joining with AIPAC and the right to dismiss a deeply felt opposition to US wars and hegemony.
i think the dems will try to freeze the situation in gaza (not arrest bibi or/and deliver justice for palestine) at best and concentrate on ukraine (escalate) and taiwan (more weaponry). i've no idea what the dsa-socdems would do with the situation in iran. anyways they'd be minority in a democratic congress and will not vote against the party-line.
Get real, Dale. The democratic socialist movement isn't socialist & is hardly democratic. It's a farce. Ask Kshama Sawant. And I take fucking umbrage at your suggesting I get out of the way in my ignorance. I've been deeply in the way of these fascist motherfuckers since I encountered genuine resistance in Malcolm X back in 1963. You're overstating the value of this movement and seem to be as committed as are the hand wringers. And once again, as frequently, your apparent need to resort to ad hominem slurs makes me want to write you off as someone who's ego needs continual stroking. Go somewhere else for that. Not gonna get it from me.
you want to argue labels when people are being murdered. I don't care if Democratic Socialists like Sanders were Martian libertarians or any other label so long as they vote to stop the genocide and curb Trump's war powers Arging about labels is a way to dodge the moral obligation to support those working to stop the genocide. Malcom X was a heroic symbol of revolutionary evolution, but it was Dr. King, the Democratic Socialists, who got the Civil Rights Act passed after centuries of failure. I note you accuse me of ad hom argument for showing the opposition of both you and AIPAC to the movement to stop the genocide in Gaza, as you go total ad hom on the "e folks you claim just feel pity for dead children, and you end by calling me "someone whose ego needs continual stroking," while accusing me of going ad hom. My ego is healthy and needs no stroking; my concern is effective action and support for those working to vote down arming Israel. You are free to join us or to heckle from the sidelines.
How has any of the Dem socialist rhetoric or actions "stopped" -- or even made the slightest dent in -- the genocide? It hasn't, quite obviously. Facts are facts, Dale. And the Civil Rights Act, well-intended, made many folks feel better, was important as another SYMBOLIC gesture, but operationally, how thoroughly did it accomplish the leveling of the actual rights of minorities with those of whites in the US. Not very much. And I'm quoting close friends of several minorities, Facts.
"This is what activism looks like when it’s highly normalized, defanged, and incorporated into the power structure’s mode of being. It is not a direct challenge to power from a wholly oppositional force, but rather an acceleration of shared pieties....
Political energy directed against the ruling class weakens as some proportion of the radical movement defects in exchange for personal and ideological advancement."
I wish you and Dale would both create a forum for Kshama and her Movement 99 solidarity ActiVistas....That is an effort I'd gladly volunteer to aid and if it were tied into fundraising for Community Radio and other alt media venues via online streaming panels & ongoing alternative to the Golden Rolodex of "Ex-Perts" so much the better! Naomi Klein and hub activist Avi Lewis from western Canada, anyone?
"Democratic Socialist Avi Lewis Elected Leader of NDP, Canada's Main Progressive Party"
87,037 views Apr 28, 2026
"As Democracy Now! broadcasts from Toronto, we speak with Avi Lewis, the new head of Canada’s progressive New Democratic Party. Lewis was elected leader in a landslide last month, winning over party members on a democratic socialist platform that vowed to prioritize affordability, address the climate crisis, fight the Trump administration’s attacks on Canada and more. Lewis takes over as the NDP has only five seats in Parliament and just as Prime Minister Mark Carney secured a majority for his Liberal government following three special elections in April."
"Lewis acknowledges that “the NDP has a lot of rebuilding to do,” but says there is “wide-open political space” in Canada for a populist left-wing agenda. “I think young people in particular are really responding to a vision where life just doesn’t have to be so grindingly unfair,” Lewis says. “We need nonmarket solutions to a time of market failure.”
"Lewis is a longtime activist and filmmaker whose late father Stephen Lewis led the Ontario NDP in the 1970s. He is married to the acclaimed author Naomi Klein."
Assuming that this isn't Dale posting under another moniker - have asked several times, and it is an honest question.
But he doesn't need to answer. His refusal to answer tells us all, and the question is worth repeating, every time he pleads for us to fall in line like good sheep.
I write to you today to ask you to think about those radical elements in the US that actually exist and are making noises about overthrowing the US govt, and then consider some possibilities.
Let's say some foreign govt decided to hand these Americans millions of dollars to get their message out through the internet and other media. Do you think they would be able to get their message out? I'm leaning towards a hard "Yes". Money talks. We all know and accept that.
Next, imagine if after a few years, or maybe a decade or so of this, that foreign govt started giving these Americans and their recent converts weapons like assault rifles, grenade launchers, handheld missile launchers, land mines, etc, etc. Would it be possible to get a rebellion started? No guarantees, but I don't think we can rule it out either.
Why am I asking you to consider these things? Because that's what your govt is doing as I write this and as you read it. That's exactly what your government has been doing for longer than any of us have been alive, so please take a moment to stand in the shoes of all of the people around the world who have been at the receiving end of this.
More important than ever that the search for justice continues! The work that the Hind Rajab Foundation is doing to track down and bring Israeli criminals to justice is one that is vital in the effort to hold Israel accountable. Let us hope they will also turn their sights on the criminal leaders of the countries of the west who are co-perpetrators of these crimes.
Rest In Power Hind Rajab. I loved posting that saying at LIVE/dead Lindsey Celebration Of Death. 1 Million to the U.N. in Sept.to do Citizen Arrest greeting Netanyahu.
or, you can do what a "pacifist" told me when I mentioned that Carney is militarizing Canada rather than spending our tax dollars on helping the people: "Carney is doing his best", she said. When pacifists think that militarizing to defend onself is the answer, it is time to stop being a pacifist.
The only problem with that is, that 'defending oneself' is amongst the most malleable concepts out there. After all, Israel is only 'defending' itself, or so it claims.
Your "pacifist" simply wants an empire, but with more rainbow flags and some self-serving human rights talk.
Note how Obama did more to neuter the antiwar movement than anything Dick Cheney could have imagined.
Once those wars became Obama's wars, criticizing them was like criticizing St. Barack. The same NPR liberals and goodthink democrats that talked of sending Bush and Cheney to The Hague morphed overnight into neocons.
America’s propaganda machine is a slick, well‑oiled bullshit factory, pumping out patriotic noise to drown out dead soldiers, broken policies, and ugly truths. Government spin, corporate media, and algorithmic echo chambers work like a giant national gas‑lighting rig, polishing disasters into hero stories and burying anything that smells inconvenient. It’s not information; it’s weaponized narrative management.
They make no secret of this. It's "defense of cognitive infrastructure." The idea is that the USA has to propagandize its own citizens because if they don't someone else will.
But the propaganda is starting to wear off for some... Or maybe they've become immune to it? Either way, we all need to work on keeping its effects at bay.
The Tiktok videos of Israeli soldiers pridefully posting videos of their own atrocities had a big effect. So the US government forced the sale of Tiktok USA to Big Money, which I'm told turned into a pro-Ukraine propaganda channel.
Truth is the natural enemy of post-truth media and must be suppressed.
Dammit, I wish I could have a full belly and enough money in my pocket to live a nice, quiet American lifestyle without fucking the world over. Its because I have to co-habitate with people who give into the greed gene that always demands more and belittles "enough is enough to be happy" thinking.
Developing "enough is enough to be happy " thinking is liberating. Literally so, because how liberating is stepping off that hamster wheel! But humans are wired make that sort of thinking difficult.
(Although it's not just humans, as obese house pets attest.)
Your arrogance is matched only by your ignorance of the struggle of most in the US just to survive, while also turning against war and empire. You are conflating victims with perpetrators...how vicious.
I’d rather be arrogant than to not understand the English language. But in the hope that you can understand my intended message, I am saying that paying ransoms (mortgages) to your masters (the Empire) is slavery.
Maybe the word propagandist is confusing the issue for you. Perhaps adding the words ‘Checking your credit score every day will convince you that you are not free, and that you owe your soul to your maters’.
Dale is simply a Team D simp. That's his entire schtick.
Ask him a simple question, such as, if given a choice, whether he would vote for a Massie or a Ron Paul (AIPAC hates them) or a goodthink DNC approved liberal, and he avoids the question the way a vampire avoids sipping garlic-infused holy water on a nice sunny breakfast nook.
Me personally, genocide is sort of a red line, but Dale's refusal to answer speaks volumes.
So you like Marx? Communism ? You quote Marx ….. you understand Marx, but you don’t understand that paying a mortgage to your masters is a perfect tool of the Empire’s hold on you ?
I wonder what all the shitlibs are going to do with their Ukraine flags when they realize the Jewish Ukrainian dictator is a Zionist warmonger. There's a reason he went to Daddy Trump the same time as Netanyahu.
The depths to which humanity will sink constantly replicates itself. For 500 years the degenerate West has been on a planetary rampage. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS have died. Entire nations and civilizations shattered. Over the centuries average people have become so desensitized to the true nature of capitalism/imperialism/racism and materialism that it appears these viruses are indestructible. Are they ? No, they are not. Modernity has given birth to the antidote: Socialism, Marxism and Communism. These ideologies are merely the coalescence of the reality of the human condition since the dawn of time. Living communally and in cooperation, not in competition, with all the others who inhabit this world is the natural order. Its legitimacy is vindicated by how violently the ruling class has fought against it. Scarce material conditions will always give rise to class collaborators and their sympathizers. They may have the guns but we have the numbers. The ruling class knows this. It is our job to convince our fellow workers of this.
Most people will believe whatever they think everyone else believes. This is why truth is dangerous and must be suppressed for propaganda to succeed. The people must be denied all alternative thought.
“It’s because the US-centralized empire is the most tyrannical power structure on earth, and the only ones able to resist its agendas of total planetary domination are the ones who are willing to use force to thwart its efforts.” —-
once people understand that this is not a democracy, but an oligarch disguised as “democracy,” the veil begins to lift slowly and surely: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-ruling-class-of-the-united-states
How to make it a democracy https://www.rangevoting.org/Cash3.html
Tell lies and the empire loves you.
Much Madness is divinest Sense -
To a discerning Eye -
Much Sense - the starkest Madness -
'Tis the Majority
In this, as all, prevail -
Assent - and you are sane -
Demur - you're straightway dangerous -
And handled with a Chain -
.
~ED #n620
Pretend that those growing percentages of Americans who now oppose Israel actually means something significant in terms of opposition, that these people are really paying attention to the larger issue of US imperialism rather than simply displaying a bit of sympathy for dead children. While the sympathy's nice, the deep realizations are absent in lots of these folks.
US public opposition to the genocide in Gaza and the war in Iran is vital to stopping the genocide and replacing a regime of war mongers with a chance to change course. You can lend a hand or get out of the way. A term like "simply displaying a bit of sympathy for dead children" is callous and ignorant. The anti-war movement is alive and growing and there is a depth to it, demonstated by the democratic socialist campaign to expose the rule of oligarchy to be replaced. The opposition to mock is real and deep. You can support it or undermine it, joining with AIPAC and the right to dismiss a deeply felt opposition to US wars and hegemony.
i think the dems will try to freeze the situation in gaza (not arrest bibi or/and deliver justice for palestine) at best and concentrate on ukraine (escalate) and taiwan (more weaponry). i've no idea what the dsa-socdems would do with the situation in iran. anyways they'd be minority in a democratic congress and will not vote against the party-line.
Get real, Dale. The democratic socialist movement isn't socialist & is hardly democratic. It's a farce. Ask Kshama Sawant. And I take fucking umbrage at your suggesting I get out of the way in my ignorance. I've been deeply in the way of these fascist motherfuckers since I encountered genuine resistance in Malcolm X back in 1963. You're overstating the value of this movement and seem to be as committed as are the hand wringers. And once again, as frequently, your apparent need to resort to ad hominem slurs makes me want to write you off as someone who's ego needs continual stroking. Go somewhere else for that. Not gonna get it from me.
you want to argue labels when people are being murdered. I don't care if Democratic Socialists like Sanders were Martian libertarians or any other label so long as they vote to stop the genocide and curb Trump's war powers Arging about labels is a way to dodge the moral obligation to support those working to stop the genocide. Malcom X was a heroic symbol of revolutionary evolution, but it was Dr. King, the Democratic Socialists, who got the Civil Rights Act passed after centuries of failure. I note you accuse me of ad hom argument for showing the opposition of both you and AIPAC to the movement to stop the genocide in Gaza, as you go total ad hom on the "e folks you claim just feel pity for dead children, and you end by calling me "someone whose ego needs continual stroking," while accusing me of going ad hom. My ego is healthy and needs no stroking; my concern is effective action and support for those working to vote down arming Israel. You are free to join us or to heckle from the sidelines.
How has any of the Dem socialist rhetoric or actions "stopped" -- or even made the slightest dent in -- the genocide? It hasn't, quite obviously. Facts are facts, Dale. And the Civil Rights Act, well-intended, made many folks feel better, was important as another SYMBOLIC gesture, but operationally, how thoroughly did it accomplish the leveling of the actual rights of minorities with those of whites in the US. Not very much. And I'm quoting close friends of several minorities, Facts.
"This is what activism looks like when it’s highly normalized, defanged, and incorporated into the power structure’s mode of being. It is not a direct challenge to power from a wholly oppositional force, but rather an acceleration of shared pieties....
Political energy directed against the ruling class weakens as some proportion of the radical movement defects in exchange for personal and ideological advancement."
https://www.palladiummag.com/2019/02/02/a-trip-behind-the-spectacle-at-davos/
Good article, thanks. Defanged Davos. I really like your "acceleration of shared pieties". Says a lot.
Wish it were my original phrase.
Hedges?
I wish you and Dale would both create a forum for Kshama and her Movement 99 solidarity ActiVistas....That is an effort I'd gladly volunteer to aid and if it were tied into fundraising for Community Radio and other alt media venues via online streaming panels & ongoing alternative to the Golden Rolodex of "Ex-Perts" so much the better! Naomi Klein and hub activist Avi Lewis from western Canada, anyone?
https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010732750/naomi-klein-on-the-fascism-of-elite-backlash.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynVATg7lHXA
"Democratic Socialist Avi Lewis Elected Leader of NDP, Canada's Main Progressive Party"
87,037 views Apr 28, 2026
"As Democracy Now! broadcasts from Toronto, we speak with Avi Lewis, the new head of Canada’s progressive New Democratic Party. Lewis was elected leader in a landslide last month, winning over party members on a democratic socialist platform that vowed to prioritize affordability, address the climate crisis, fight the Trump administration’s attacks on Canada and more. Lewis takes over as the NDP has only five seats in Parliament and just as Prime Minister Mark Carney secured a majority for his Liberal government following three special elections in April."
"Lewis acknowledges that “the NDP has a lot of rebuilding to do,” but says there is “wide-open political space” in Canada for a populist left-wing agenda. “I think young people in particular are really responding to a vision where life just doesn’t have to be so grindingly unfair,” Lewis says. “We need nonmarket solutions to a time of market failure.”
"Lewis is a longtime activist and filmmaker whose late father Stephen Lewis led the Ontario NDP in the 1970s. He is married to the acclaimed author Naomi Klein."
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Tio Mitchito
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Dale, suppose you have a choice between an antiwar member of Team R (say, Ron Paul) and a goodthink member in good standing of Team D.
Whom would you choose?
Rhetorical questions abound.
It's nit a rhetorical question but a hypothetical.
Dale's refusal to answer a simple question tells us volumes about his real motivations.
I was thinking you didn’t really expect him to answer, and you know the answer, and was making a point.
But yes, hypothetically, dale could answer and tell us what we already know—or maybe he could surprise us.
Assuming that this isn't Dale posting under another moniker - have asked several times, and it is an honest question.
But he doesn't need to answer. His refusal to answer tells us all, and the question is worth repeating, every time he pleads for us to fall in line like good sheep.
In politics you gotta work with what's out there.
Yeah, politics is compromise, and hence for major issues like genocide, gets us nowhere. Thanks for reminding us.
Dear Americans,
I write to you today to ask you to think about those radical elements in the US that actually exist and are making noises about overthrowing the US govt, and then consider some possibilities.
Let's say some foreign govt decided to hand these Americans millions of dollars to get their message out through the internet and other media. Do you think they would be able to get their message out? I'm leaning towards a hard "Yes". Money talks. We all know and accept that.
Next, imagine if after a few years, or maybe a decade or so of this, that foreign govt started giving these Americans and their recent converts weapons like assault rifles, grenade launchers, handheld missile launchers, land mines, etc, etc. Would it be possible to get a rebellion started? No guarantees, but I don't think we can rule it out either.
Why am I asking you to consider these things? Because that's what your govt is doing as I write this and as you read it. That's exactly what your government has been doing for longer than any of us have been alive, so please take a moment to stand in the shoes of all of the people around the world who have been at the receiving end of this.
Best regards,
The other 95%
And before the internet it was Radio Free Europe and various media organs financed and controlled the CIA a la Phil Agee 'Inside the Company '
More important than ever that the search for justice continues! The work that the Hind Rajab Foundation is doing to track down and bring Israeli criminals to justice is one that is vital in the effort to hold Israel accountable. Let us hope they will also turn their sights on the criminal leaders of the countries of the west who are co-perpetrators of these crimes.
Find out what they’re doing here:
https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org
The least we can do is donate to help them:
Support the Hind Rajab Foundation
https://donate.stripe.com/cN228hbY5g7jaM84gg
Rest In Power Hind Rajab. I loved posting that saying at LIVE/dead Lindsey Celebration Of Death. 1 Million to the U.N. in Sept.to do Citizen Arrest greeting Netanyahu.
Education is the backbone of Countries. If the education stinks so will many of the people.
or, you can do what a "pacifist" told me when I mentioned that Carney is militarizing Canada rather than spending our tax dollars on helping the people: "Carney is doing his best", she said. When pacifists think that militarizing to defend onself is the answer, it is time to stop being a pacifist.
The only problem with that is, that 'defending oneself' is amongst the most malleable concepts out there. After all, Israel is only 'defending' itself, or so it claims.
Your "pacifist" simply wants an empire, but with more rainbow flags and some self-serving human rights talk.
Note how Obama did more to neuter the antiwar movement than anything Dick Cheney could have imagined.
Once those wars became Obama's wars, criticizing them was like criticizing St. Barack. The same NPR liberals and goodthink democrats that talked of sending Bush and Cheney to The Hague morphed overnight into neocons.
The problem with the "pacifist" defending Carney is, for me, that she is part of an anti war group.
Antiwar - but only sometimes.
Brilliant analysis...Thank you...
America’s propaganda machine is a slick, well‑oiled bullshit factory, pumping out patriotic noise to drown out dead soldiers, broken policies, and ugly truths. Government spin, corporate media, and algorithmic echo chambers work like a giant national gas‑lighting rig, polishing disasters into hero stories and burying anything that smells inconvenient. It’s not information; it’s weaponized narrative management.
They make no secret of this. It's "defense of cognitive infrastructure." The idea is that the USA has to propagandize its own citizens because if they don't someone else will.
But the propaganda is starting to wear off for some... Or maybe they've become immune to it? Either way, we all need to work on keeping its effects at bay.
The Tiktok videos of Israeli soldiers pridefully posting videos of their own atrocities had a big effect. So the US government forced the sale of Tiktok USA to Big Money, which I'm told turned into a pro-Ukraine propaganda channel.
Truth is the natural enemy of post-truth media and must be suppressed.
So well and concisely expressed, thank you!
Dammit, I wish I could have a full belly and enough money in my pocket to live a nice, quiet American lifestyle without fucking the world over. Its because I have to co-habitate with people who give into the greed gene that always demands more and belittles "enough is enough to be happy" thinking.
Developing "enough is enough to be happy " thinking is liberating. Literally so, because how liberating is stepping off that hamster wheel! But humans are wired make that sort of thinking difficult.
(Although it's not just humans, as obese house pets attest.)
Get a job. Free Palestine. Help Wanted!
“How to be an empire propagandist”.
Pay your mortgage and go to work. Or more precisely…. Go to work and pay your mortgage.
Arbeit macht frei.
Yes, of course…. I would too.. lol
Your arrogance is matched only by your ignorance of the struggle of most in the US just to survive, while also turning against war and empire. You are conflating victims with perpetrators...how vicious.
I’d rather be arrogant than to not understand the English language. But in the hope that you can understand my intended message, I am saying that paying ransoms (mortgages) to your masters (the Empire) is slavery.
Maybe the word propagandist is confusing the issue for you. Perhaps adding the words ‘Checking your credit score every day will convince you that you are not free, and that you owe your soul to your maters’.
Get it? ????
Dale is simply a Team D simp. That's his entire schtick.
Ask him a simple question, such as, if given a choice, whether he would vote for a Massie or a Ron Paul (AIPAC hates them) or a goodthink DNC approved liberal, and he avoids the question the way a vampire avoids sipping garlic-infused holy water on a nice sunny breakfast nook.
Me personally, genocide is sort of a red line, but Dale's refusal to answer speaks volumes.
I recall Marx writing: "Workers, you are the problem. We will crush you before debt in your evil desire to own a home."
So you like Marx? Communism ? You quote Marx ….. you understand Marx, but you don’t understand that paying a mortgage to your masters is a perfect tool of the Empire’s hold on you ?
I wonder what all the shitlibs are going to do with their Ukraine flags when they realize the Jewish Ukrainian dictator is a Zionist warmonger. There's a reason he went to Daddy Trump the same time as Netanyahu.
Oh, they'll make excuses.
No doubt
The depths to which humanity will sink constantly replicates itself. For 500 years the degenerate West has been on a planetary rampage. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS have died. Entire nations and civilizations shattered. Over the centuries average people have become so desensitized to the true nature of capitalism/imperialism/racism and materialism that it appears these viruses are indestructible. Are they ? No, they are not. Modernity has given birth to the antidote: Socialism, Marxism and Communism. These ideologies are merely the coalescence of the reality of the human condition since the dawn of time. Living communally and in cooperation, not in competition, with all the others who inhabit this world is the natural order. Its legitimacy is vindicated by how violently the ruling class has fought against it. Scarce material conditions will always give rise to class collaborators and their sympathizers. They may have the guns but we have the numbers. The ruling class knows this. It is our job to convince our fellow workers of this.
Well said, Caitlin.
Thanks Caitlin! With my new job as an empire propagandist I can finally move out of the homeless encampment and earn a degree in torture science.
So many fall for and parrot this propaganda. It's been absorbed by so many as obvious truth, it's all been repeated so much.
Most people will believe whatever they think everyone else believes. This is why truth is dangerous and must be suppressed for propaganda to succeed. The people must be denied all alternative thought.