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There’s a genocide going on in Palestine, people are sleeping on the streets by the White House, and these two are arguing over their golf handicap. They might as well be playing golf on the moon. In fact… b’bye! Watch out for that radiation belt, I hear it’s a doozy.

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Jun 29·edited Jun 29

One of the more surreal moments of the clown debate, and pretty much was a psychological profile of those who rule over us in the US: two very old white men arguing over their golf handicaps, each calling the other a liar. I mean, wtf?

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Yup. America's insidious duopoly, at work, as parodied by The Simpsons:

https://bearsbulletins.substack.com/p/americas-two-party-system

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Jun 29·edited Jun 29

One old guy, too addled with the obvious onset of dementia, lying about his golf handicap. Another old guy, with an ego the size of Texas, offended that someone with dementia might have a better golf handicap than him. Ok, I'll say it again: wtf?

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When you view this as a planned reality TV script, where their own so-called "secret" Pandora's Box got (finally) opened, by the Masses to see.... then, and only then, will the "WTF?" question be irrelevant to you or your family's personal success and lifestyle.

In short, it's designed THAT way, partner, and simply, in the words of Bill Hicks, "Enjoy the damn ride... it's a short one anyway!"

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I wonder if there are more rides after this Barry? Any clues?

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I dunno -- I, personally, keep focusing on IRL experiences on this plane.

But, surely if you end up trying some kind of out-of-body experience, and end up SEEING THE LIGHT beyond the ethers.... do let us know...

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Did you ever wonder why Trump speaks of himself and his accomplishments so frequently? Maybe because unlike the Democrat ball-anus-licking the press does for Biden, Obama, Clinton, you won't know of them if he does not. Instead you hear lies about praising nazis and cooperating with Russians to win election.

I dare you...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://truthandliberty.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Trump.Accomplishments.FINAL-1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjRofWXtYKHAxUhjYkEHYgjBhsQFnoECCQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1mbZz5F9baIi11E70EQxE_

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"and pretty much was a psychological profile of those who rule over us in the US"

So you accept that people MUST rule over you ?

I will NEVER support that concept

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Jun 29·edited Jun 29

I accept Constitutional, rules based governance of public Representatives, which is not the corrupt system we currently have. I do not support the lawless society you and the Koch brothers advocate(d) for - just to enrich themselves and their billionaire golf buddies.

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The Koch brothers have never moved away from fascist in favor of "freedom."

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so it doesn not matter what that constitution says !

I actually place ideas ahead of official documents

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Yeah - except your only idea is lawlessness.

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Yours is a slippery-slope argument. You don't have to go from "in a democracy you shouldn't accept that people 'rule over you' " to "absolute lawlessness."

You may not know this, but between the end of the American Revolution and the installation of the Constitution, the people in the former American colonies had no laws governing them at all ("lawlessness") and everything went on as usual, with no one running amuck.

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LAW = those are STATE-MANDATES that have been legalized by that same state

They can even make immoral mandates on people

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Lawlessness beats rule-based governance every time.

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Let em argue their handicaps.

Or take a nap. Just leave us the hell out of their day.

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The radiation belt was the reason why the video from the moon really originated on a sound stage in California.

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How was the first moon travel video simulation (Apollo 8) done in an era with such low-capacity computing? Seems to me it would take years since the first (unmanned) travel over the moon's far side -- at sufficient resolution -- to construct the (analog hi-res) simulation released in late 1968, that could now be checked against modern video. Has that check now been done, and what anomalies does it show?

How about about Mars today? Are all those trips simulations?

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How were Star Trek's simulations produced before there were mainframe computers running graphics?

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Star Trek didn't need to perfectly match real planets etc. It was, and is, a fictional story.

I assume you do, or would, allege that the video of the Moon's far side supposedly generated by the (manned) Apollo 8 is a fake. In that case, this fake would have been created (and released) in 1968 without modern computer-generated graphics and camera tech. (I was alive in 1968 and I saw these on TV, etc., so you can't say to me they didn't exist at that time and were instead issued later. I suppose you can call me a liar, but then the discussion here would then take a different tack...)

Now, if you can show that these video simulations are incorrect (that they show the wrong mountains, craters, etc. because no one yet knew, in that detail, what was on the far side) by comparing them to what we should now have available to us, captured by modern (unmanned) flights with modern tech, then it seems to me you have evidence that the originals could not have been generated by a real flyby from Apollo 8.

This video, as I recall, showed the weightless astronauts, the windows, the moon's surface, the known-weather-covered earth, etc. in one seamless movie. Given the primitive-to-nonexistent computing tech of the day, that could only have been simulated during years of studio set generation and filming, and probably with the realization that not long after (a decade or two?) it would likely be shown false.

Do you have this evidence?

Note that this would be a pretty darned high political risk to both the culpable Democratic Party administrations involved (Kennedy, Johnson) as well as Nixon's soon after. Maybe that risk seems like nothing, given the shenanigans we see regularly today -- and no doubt to me this is the *real* source of your moon-landing skepticism.

But I wouldn't confuse the mendacity of the 21st century's Washington elected officials with those of the mid-20th century. We're in a whole 'nother league now, as evidenced by the current envelope-pushing outrage, a spectacularly-exposed senile president *just staying in office* rather than immediately resigning. Leave aside the re-nomination question currently occupying our professional-actor chattering classes.

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Star Fleet is based in San Francisco...

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Oh my God! I stand corrected!

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Lol!

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It astonishes me that anyone still believes that this government has any legitimacy at all. It simply doesn't.

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All governments have the legitimacy that the people give them.

Why are we continuing to give it to them?

For one solution, we could simply STOP VOTING. That would remove our consent immediately.

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boycott voting and paying taxes so that these criminals do no have a salary. Stop the machine!

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No tax without representation!.

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Indeed Playing golf on the moon is a. brilliant idea and I'm sure they've noted it for future distraction use . When the powerful invent a nice sounding system you can be sure it is just that. That they don't even bother to get nice looking nice sounding men in putative positions of 'power' means they feel they don't even need to pretend I'm sure also they have a couple of nice looking women in their cupboard somewhere in cas patriarchy takes a knock.

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You clearly are uneducated Jody and don't understand the definition of the word "genocide".

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So I guess the World Court is uneducated too

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Really? What reference are you using to make this statement? Please provide a cite

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Meanwhile Trump’s court has made homelessness a crime. Biden said he intends to build more housing at least. Trump can only lie and complain.

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The are both POS so stop with the lesser of two evils nonsense. We deserve better.

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He’s said a lot of things, but does he even remember? Anyway the Democrats are smooth talkers who often do the opposite or pave the way for Republicans to do their thing. After feeling disappointed in Clinton’s program for “change” I started voting 3rd party in 1996. And I still respect Ralph Nader

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ROTFLOL. Happy to see that you have self-neutered yourself politically.

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You hit the nail on the head.

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So true. Ugh.

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Forgive me for repeating myself:

Democracy, as a practical matter, is basically an exercise in passing the buck, in avoiding responsibility. The technical term for this is a "beard".

Everyone in power claims to answer to and derive their authority from someone else, going ultimately back to "the people" who themselves do not directly exercise power, and who would find it difficult to exercise as a collective action problem, even if they had the formal authority to do so.

What this means is that real power is often in the hands of unelected bureaucrats, who typically don't even want to stand for election because they don't want the voters to know what their programs are, much less to exercise any oversight. Robert Moses is the classic example here.

Even that minimal level of scrutiny is too much for some, and real power is often exercised by people not formally part of any government structure. Corporate lobbyists or Robert Kagan come to mind .

Taking into account how wildly unpopular most western politicians and their policies are with their respective publics, "democracy" as it is practiced is basically a cover for rulers to do what they want.

After all, your elected representatives approved this. If you don't like it, you can vote for a different carefully vetted corporate imperialist muppet, so until then, shut up and fall in line!

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The United States began as a constitutional republic and won't be any better until it returns to being one.

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Pat Buchanan said much the same thing, to general derision.

He and you both were right, but it won't happen. No way anyone in power will voluntarily give up the power that being an empire entails.

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Did King George give up power voluntarily.

If one reads the Declaration of Independence with full understanding, they will discover that King George was benevolent by comparison to the federal government.

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It was the local oligarchy rising up and carefully orchestrating the public against the overseas oligarchy - the King. Just enough to throw off the king while keep themselves on top. The devised rhetoric of "freedom, liberty" was all to keep the plebes in check.

What are the analogs now?

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What are the analogs of what?

The King was stupid enough to think he could win with old European style tactics from across the pond. The plebes carried the fight, not the oligarchs.

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Never mind.

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Not sure if it will be better. It has never been a democracy (nor have most western countries). At its founding only wealthy, landowning, white males could vote or hold office. Everything since then has been crumbs to keep people from realizing they have not been living in a democracy.

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Democracies have the highest rate of voter registration and the lowest rate of voting.

American voting was based on those with skin in the game doing it

Anyone who can register, regardless of qualification, can vote now.

Voting doesn't matter when all elections are corrupt.

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🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

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So you want right wing ruling everything. What could possibly go wrong.

Btw it’s a democratic republic and don’t bother arguing with me because I know that it is.

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I can only assume that you have never read the founders on democracy or you wouldn't be talking about them in complete ignorance.

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If it were in my power, I would abolish and prohibit all partisan designations in governmental venues. All political parties are criminal gangs.

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or TL/DR version: the (s)election supersedes the election. And it's not the people 'voting' in the former.

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I'd agree if we actually had elections. https://innomen.substack.com/p/we-dont-have-a-government

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I can't believe how many people are still fawning over Biden 🤮 He's a monster. They have everyone so scared of Trump, they can't see the threat from the other side🫣🫤

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"I can't believe how many people are still fawning over Biden 🤮 He's a monster. They have everyone so scared of Trump, they can't see the threat from the other side."

They are both asshole puppets of the Deep State.

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You mean the ruling class or as I like to call them, the parasite class.

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"You mean the ruling class or as I like to call them, the parasite class."

Call them what you will. They are the unelected bureaucrats of the three-letter acronyms.

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No one is “fawning” over Biden. Fawning is only happening with the MAGAs. Trump is the monster, Biden is a product of late stage Capitalist Democracy, not a great choice, but far better than the other.

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"No one is “fawning” over Biden."

The news media is fawning over Biden and trying to justify his stupidity.

But why are you replying to me? What I wrote was in quotation marks, which means someone else said it.

There is no choice when it comes to voting in the United States. Those who do vote are either ignorant or stupid.

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they're indeed campaigning for each other. people voting for either, vote out of fear. but they're both empire candidates.

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Those who tell the president what to do are worse than monsters.

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"I truly do not see how anyone can still give a fuck about this bullshit. It’s so obvious at this point that the US is being run by unelected empire managers who throw up half-dead, half-brained presidential candidates to trick Americans into thinking they live in a democracy."

This is an excellent synopsis of the current situation

"There are no answers in electoral politics. Start looking for answers elsewhere."

I have been saying this for a long time and receiving scorn from some on this blog.

"This shit has been happening continuously, and will continue to happen after the butchery in Gaza is done. You just need to pay very close attention to the US war machine and the critical voices who monitor its crimes."

That is true, and it started after WWII. People need to START paying very close attention to the US war machine.

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"It started after WWII." Might be more accurate to say that it started during WWII, but accelerated when all the vultures swooped in to pick over the remains of Nazi Germany. I guess they'd never heard the phrase, "you are what you eat."

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"I have been saying this for a long time and receiving scorn from some on this blog." - it's not for what you say you "receive scorn". What you say is trite and well-known and not hard to figure out.

The details is what's tricky, and you say nothing about them, though asked repeatedly. Probably because the devil is in them. And remember - you could do nothing more to damage your "reputation" than to retort once, something to the effect - "I came up with the strategy and you come up with the process". With that you joined the troupe of forum clowns.

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I just finished watching an interview from 7 January with journalist and musician Lowkey, talking about the way the narrative is manipulated by the Israel lobby in the UK and other western countries. Caitlin’s essay reminded me of this quote:

“We’re not out-numbered, we’re just out-organised, that’s the bottom line here, to quote Malcom X, with the story of the Palestinian struggle, of staying power, and things are going to get more and more intense. We need to have a literacy of what the activities of Israel are outside of Palestine. Unfortunately, I think we have had generations of liberal mis-leadership, which has focused us on events within Palestine, and given birth to a kind of paternalism, which is about saving the Palestinians. The Palestinians are fighting [for] themselves. The Lebanese are fighting [for] themselves. We need to to fight [for] ourselves. We cannot use their suffering as a reason for us to just stay here and allow ourselves to be pulled around by what the Israel lobby says.”

https://youtu.be/neANpZ6ptRo

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Lowkey is great

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If the money grubbing war mongers have their "way" there will be no more world left to manage, protect or live in. Nuclear war is completely unforgiving and that is what they have been threatening most recently.

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Trump or Biden Sunack or Starmer I am voting SNP at least the Scots Nats voted for ceasefire and there is a hope we can dump the genocide Israeli Starmer

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Really great work Caitlin! I so much appreciate your effort, your passion. I live in Southern New England and what I currently find astonishing is that in my travels I see absolutely NO lawn signs and only one bumper sticker (Trump.) And pretty much everyone I know believes The Adults In The Room™ will save us all from the Orange Hitler, but no one can bring themselves to display their support for the pathetic husk in the White House.

How anyone could watch that tragic spectacle is beyond me. I suppose a debate between Hitler & Stalin would be interesting, because they were intelligent and held beliefs, no matter how deranged. These two are just deranged histrions. I had more important things to do like watching kitten videos.

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Electing third party Independents who will not participate in funding genocides and enriching corporations on the backs of the people to the White House and in local governments will help. Since we are still voting, we should take responsibility at the ballot box and have standards.

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"Since we are still voting, we should take responsibility at the ballot box and have standards."

You are living in a dream world.

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And dreams can't come true?

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you can do that and protest in the street and organise in alternative structures.

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Also boycott and protest and organise etc

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Plugging a third party into a corrupt system isn't going to change the system. It will just destroy the third party.

We need to CLEAN UP THE SYSTEM before we can move on into a multi-party system.

Right now, voting is a sham which props up the oligarchy. Don't put your trust in princes.

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I was thinking today about the various times the US has butchered its own citizens--like Ludlow Co. massacre, the bombing of MOVE and an entire city block in Philadelphia, Waco Texas, on and on. In Ludlow, during a miner's strike, Co. Nat Guard and a bunch of private militia burned wives and children of strikers alive in their tents, and shot them when they tried to leave (sounds a bit like---Rafah??). But we have short fking memories don't we, and still go along with whatever fuckery our elected officials coerce us into. It isn't just foreign policy. We need to take a lesson from the people in Bolivia and wake the fk up. I'm speaking to myself too.

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I was telling my bourgeois friends in the 1980s that we needed to go out on a General Strike and they were appalled.

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and now bougie liberals are being revealed as genocide supporters...(lite).

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Presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party is the way out of this perfect electoral mess of a storm! Check out her platform at http://gp.org/platform and join the battle of our lives at http://jillstein2024.org.

Talk about presidential material! Highly intelligent, articulate, charismatic leader who got arrested at Washington University in St. Louis, MO for holding the line against police ramming her with a bicycle at a pro-Palestinian protest.

She was charged with assaulting a police officer who could have killed her as he lifted her foot and tried to bring her to the ground under the bicycle and his bulk. At the same protest, the cops did almost kill Steve Tamari, a 65 year old history professor who ended up in the hospital with broken ribs and a broken hand.

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Personally, I am done with voting as it is all a smokescreen in order to make us think we have an actual say in what is taking place. Shamocracy is a better name.

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I've been telling people since 2020 to STOP VOTING. Don't give them legitimacy by participating in their sham.

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Here's something I don't believe many have considered in that when I say "Trump is just a trap to keep business as usual while raping the American people". Maybe they planned to have Trump back in the White House! Look at the destruction he already has planned for with his Project 2025! If these ZioNazi politicians keep hitting all the social structure hard enough when food becomes scarce and the power gets turned off guess what? Marshall Law and a Dictator!

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For ordinary Americans, Trump will makes things worse. Just how much worse, is anybody's guess. Assuming that is, they don't find a way to get rid of him before the election. I mean, given how quickly the corporate media has now turned on Genocide Joe, like a well oiled machine - after just one debate, and all the names of possible replacements showing up in our news feeds (including a young Gavin Newsom) - and rumours that Hilly & Boma are hard at work behind the scenes trying to get Joe removed, maybe this was the plan all along. So they replace Joe but still won't have the votes to take the POTUS seat. So now they need to figure out how to take Trump out, since his criminal conviction was suppose to do the job, but it didn't. So what now?

Or maybe, it just didn't matter at all who won POTUS. Trump is just as much a puppet as Biden in the end.

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Not worth even going where you are going.... US is dead. Can't even carry through a coup d'etat in Bolivia.

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Jun 29·edited Jun 29

Yes. Even the US Supreme court is now corrupt.

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Of course Jamenta. If you allow politicians to select your Supreme Court Justices (without a term limit even) you get what you deserve.

I thought there was supposed to be a separation between the 2.

The Govt. here in France does not elect High Court Justices or others.

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Exactly! All the lies are sometimes the exact opposite of the truth! All this has been planned to keep everything the same or worse. This takes control away from any possible resistance to the Zionist Nazi solution. Trump just happens to say out loud what used to be a no no! Now it does not matter because no one can stop them unless we have armed revolt!

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No, there are alternatives to armed revolt.

Please look up the work of Dr Gene Sharp. He was a college professor who spent his life studying nonviolent civil disobedience.

Please read his book From Dictatorship to Democracy.

He found that nonviolent civil disobedience was more successful than violence in removing your own oppressive government.

There's also a documentary about him titled How to Start a Revolution. Eye-opening

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The Palestinians tried non-violence in their now well-known Walk For Peace and were butchered by the Israelis. Sometimes, one has no other choice, but to either fight or flee.

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What I said was that nonviolence works best against YOUR OWN OPPRESSIVE GOVERNMENT. If you would actually READ Gene Sharp before you comment, you would learn that it implies that it doesn't work against an invasion.

Israel is an invading state, therefore nonviolence won't work out for the Palestinians.

Maybe they should have read Gene Sharp before they went on the Walk For Peace.

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Why do I feel like I'm being talked down to here? Unbelievable.

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I’m not sure. I don’t think we’d be on the brink of nuclear war with Russia or any worse than where we are now with the Middle East. But, we’d be better to vote for a broken vacuum cleaner at this point

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Martial law, not Marshall law

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Ha! Damned spell checker didn't catch that! Google wasn't watching me close enough! Maybe we can use this against them as some kind of code😂!

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For over two years now I've said Biden would not be running for 2024 due to his obvious mental and physical decline. Hell, I wonder that he's still alive. I find it telling that one of the top Google searches post- 'Debate' was on the subject of the 25th Amendment. I believe the so-called 'Democrats' are preparing the bait-and-switch they've planned all along and will probably roll it out at their convention. Any bets on Clinton being dug up and pushed into place as nominee?

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Agreed. They purposely waited until after the primaries so voters would have no say in the nominee.

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Caitlin would have you know that the primaries are bullshit, as I read her work.

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I mean, they are. It’s still so sinister.

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They will bring in newsom.

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Limbaugh said that all of the talk of 25th use, during Trump, was really in prep for Biden.

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We have to. The people who put this show on control so many aspects of our lives...we have to use every means available to try to understand their thinking and overall psychology, so that we can avoid being victimized, and maybe work toward an alternative.

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Dr Gene Sharp wrote an alternative: nonviolent civil disobedience.

Please read From Dictatorship to Democracy.

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I've participated in successful non-violent resistance to violent people. It works.

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The last presidential debate I watched was Kennedy/Nixon. Three years later I waved at JFK five minutes before his murder. Two years after that I was selected for military slavery. I don't think anything they say matters.

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I am so sad about what happened to you, and to us all

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