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Crapp's avatar

Isn’t it crazy - cartoons, ads, movies, schools etc fill our heads full of shit. Sadly, and this needs to be said, the vast majority of parents too, as most don’t see it, or if they do see it, simply want to protect their child’s innocence.

Yet in doing so, we repeat the web of nonsense that subjects kids all over the world to violence, subjugation, brutality, orphan status etc etc.

I saw an amazing clip of an Iranian mother being asked about her fears for her young son during the war - and she said “how is my son any different to a child in Gaza? We support the actions against the aggressors and accept the hardship now to help all children” - i’m paraphrasing a bit, but that’s pretty close.

That is the fire we need right there. Thankfully, as much as it personally pains me, I’m not bringing a child into this hellhole.

Feral Finster's avatar

As far as the Americans and Israelis are concerned, there is no difference between an Iranian child and a Palestinian child.

Both are in the way.

Crapp's avatar

Life in general is in the way from their perspective….

Francesca Heather-Hayes's avatar

They’re doing everything they can to destroy real life on Earth by hastening the Climate Crisis and encouraging cheap plastic consumerism, and obviously the never ending wars. Unlike the Palestinians for example, they don’t invest in the citizens’ education because it’s easier to manipulate and hoodwink ignorant and uneducated people. Education is for the elites and their offspring.

This all results in so much human suffering and an unforgivable waste of human potential that it’s hard to take on board that it’s an active choice rather than a horrific mistake.

Crapp's avatar

I’d say education doesn’t exist - it is just indoctrination dressed up in a more palatable name. Particularly for the elites as it goes.

N. Obody's avatar

Bingo! We have an anti-life culture, this is the culture of the machine and why they worship AI and transhumanism. Specially in Israel, and this is deeply embedded in Google/Alphabet, ClosedAI and Meta. They want a virtual world where everything -and everyone - is under total surveillance and control.

Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

The zionists are amalek - they don't care how many they kill to clear the land.

Aamir Razak's avatar

well said Ms. McCroskey

N. Walker's avatar

In their view, an inconvenient commodity

Ginnie's avatar

History is written by the victors. Yeah, we all know the line. But watching the flood of glowing tributes and soft-focus bullshit and straight-up historical revisionism painting guys like Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, hell, even George Bush as noble statesmen instead of the lying war-criminal scumbags they were… that’s when it really hit me like a ton of bricks: how many other “great men” that we've been told about throughout history are complete bullshit? How many legacies got scrubbed clean by the same power structures that benefit from the lie? Surely these are not the only ones.

Then one by one, the dominos fell. I used to think Gaddafi was some irredeemable monster who got what he deserved, until I actually looked into what happened to Libya after and how he was betrayed after giving the West whatever they asked for. Total collapse, open-air slave markets, chaos. Same with Mother Teresa: held up as the pinnacle of compassion, until you learn she let people suffer in agony because she thought pain was spiritually meaningful.

After a while, you start noticing a pattern. All these “good guys” we’re told to admire, people, governments, entire systems, and you land on a realization that we aren't the good guys and those weren't the bad guys. It's all just Hollywood movies most people think is real life.

Thankfully for those in power, most people are fundamentally stupid and incurios. They don't wanna know better because it would mean accepting they've been lied to about damn near everything - right and wrong, heroes and villains, good and bad all of it. That kind of realization doesn’t just sting, it detonates your entire worldview and even sense of self when you realize how complicit you have been. Most people aren’t built to handle that.

It's like Morpheus says in the Matrix “When you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But ... most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

If you control the story, you control how people interpret reality. You can turn war criminals into noble statesmen, a terrorist into an army General fighting for independence from the Crown, and atrocities into “complex situations”.

Crapp's avatar

And extend that into how our economic system functions - which is consistently presented as the only possible one.

Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

Our so-called democraties, as opposed to any other system in the non-Western world.

Just Sayn's avatar

It's like Morpheus says in the Matrix “When you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But ... most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.". That is exactly the plan . To get people so dependent they don't even realize they are slaves. None are so enslaved as those who believe they are free. Incremental creep to totalitarianism. Almost there now!

grahamlyons's avatar

Nice summary of this inverted/satanic "system", Ginnie. And it gets worse. Most of the famous/celebrity class are "inverts", Elite Gender Inversions. There is nothing more satanic and deceptive than that.

Aamir Razak's avatar

well said Ginnie. Narrative control will have people believing that anyone the powers that be tells them to is an enemy and to be treated with disdain and hatred

Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

We have to learn to think our Western reality upside down.

felineophile's avatar

This is an excellently written piece, thank you Ginnie

John Turcot's avatar

Crapp,

“Repeating the web of nonsense” to our kids is one of the most injurious actions that children must endure . A prime example is teaching them there’s a Holy Creature in the sky Who has rested everything and that we must honour that Creator until our last breath..or else…

Crapp's avatar

You’re preaching to the choir baby. Hence why I am not having kids.

Just Sayn's avatar

Stevie Wonder- " When you believe in things you don't understand then you suffer! Superstition ain't the way" . A.Lincoln is one of those evil gods we were taught to worship.

Naji's avatar

The first and foremost duty of police officers is to protect the system before the citizens. When citizens are upset and protest, security forces protect and cordon off parliaments, presidential palaces, ministries and all centres of state power…. Against citizens.

Pietro Wislon's avatar

Governments "Democratic" or authoritarian, communist or fascist, the police remain the same.

Naji's avatar

The violent arm of the State, as you say ,

Of different colors are the same

Bushrod Lake's avatar

All governments are given the monopoly of violence by their citizens so we don't have to all carry weapons to defend ourselves (like in Haiti, Sudan, some places in Mexico, etc.).

Veronica Baker's avatar

I feel sorry for young adults who plan on becoming a police officer when they are old enough, or similar job where they think they are going to be protecting the public, people like their neighbours and friend's. Instead they find after committing themselves into that branch of public service, that it's rare they get to be of service to the people they expected to be, more often they will have to act against them instead.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

I'd like to think that a generational shift in attitude toward the relationship between the police and the citizenry will happen. The people becoming police are the same who grew up on Nintendo, anime, and smartphones. Maybe it is gradual, but the change is coming to the power structures whether they want it or not once Boomers are dead. Then again, the young grunt doesn't create the orders. He's just told to follow them.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Hell, I'm doomed being one of those boomers you want dead. As there's quite a few of us on here singing from the same song sheet as you, you might wish to reflect and realize that every single generation has its good, it's bad and it's utterly indifferent people.

As for the police, not going to happen in England unless something drastic happens, the police are chosen to be manipulated, it's as simple as that. A lot of what were the decent police have left the force because they can't stand the new cruel breed that's been brought in. Short of getting rid of the lot of them, including the government and associated departments, a lot will not change

ennui_mcgee's avatar

I make no apologies about waiting for the day your generation is out of the picture. None. It's got nothing to do with any particular Boomer. I don't know you. Maybe we'd be amazing friends irl. Your generation has fucked up the world. I am speaking from a limited US perspective, where the Boomers benefited from the New Deal policies their parents put in place, the neoliberal boom of the 80s and 90s (which removed the manufacturing jobs they had growing up), and the financial coming of age of the internet only to destroy unions, to allow 9/11 to happen on their watch, crash the economy with their greed in the subprime mortgage crisis of 2008, manufacture not one but two decades-long wars to send their children to in Afghanistan and Iraq, manufacture yet another illegal war in Iran for their grandchildren to die in, fuck up the response to COVID causing more than a million Americans to needlessly die, all the while voting down every possible measure to make life more affordable for other generations. So pardon me, it has got nothing to do with you, but I can't wait for your generation to die. Cannot wait.

However, I do not understand generational differences in the UK. They may not be like they are here in the US. They probably aren't.

Varyss's avatar

As a US boomer, for what it is worth, I apologize for what my generation did to the world. I apologize for not doing enough.

But only kind of. I really did try. And will continue to do what little I can do. I, and others like me, got overwhelmed. The hard part for the younger generations: how also to not get overwhelmed. What good does it do to get rid of one generation of people that got overwhelmed if our generation gets replaced by another generation that is also overwhelmed? "Meet the new boss same as the old boss" is not a good solution.

Good luck. There were lots of my generation that fought hard. We lost :(

Veronica Baker's avatar

One thing I admire above all else, is honesty, for that I will give your comment a like.

Yes a lot, mainly the monied people did a lot to fuck up your world and even mine even though I'm a "boomer," here in England as even I was growing up. So maybe ensure your generation don't do exactly the same, especially if they get some money behind them, it has ever been money that tends to run and ruin things.

Feral Finster's avatar

AFAICT, cop is often one of those self-selecting professions.

Veronica Baker's avatar

For the last decade or so, here it is sold to the college and university leavers when the majority realise their degrees and passes aren't worth a damn and they have to look forward to paying all those student fees back in the future.

Prior to it being dangled as a way to get a wage if the military didn't take your fancy, it was more of a vocation for many, especially the decent ones.

Feral Finster's avatar

Interesting. In the US it's a lot of ex-military.

Mo Mast's avatar

draw a picture of a pirate and he will have an eye patch , a peg leg, a trip corner hat, a sword and a flintlock pistol. when in reality it is a guy with an Armani suit, $ 5000 shoes, a $2000 hair cut, a Rolex watch, and a corner office on wall st.

SW's avatar

The deadly decisions that justify crime on the battlefield originate in the boardroom, Parliaments/Congresses/Knessents. Everything that follows is just an implementation of those decisions. Two years ago the Israeli Knesset “debated” whether or not it was okay to rape prisoners. Since the rape of both male and female prisoners (probably children too) never stopped I guess they decided it was A-okay.

Yesterday they voted to hang Palestinians in their custody without a trial - not even a pretend trial. They do not consider them POWs or hostages, only “terrorists” to be exterminated at their pleasure. War Crime, International Law, Israel’s “right to defend itself”, the Holocaust, the “only democracy in the Middle East” are phrases I never want to hear again. They’re all perfectly meaningless and have no moral force.

Veronica Baker's avatar

They are utterly sick, depraved people born with that streak of evil.

As far as I ever heard, the rape was still allowed. I guess we both knew while waiting to see if they would pass the death penalty law against Palestinians, that it was a foregone conclusion.

What is truly sickening that our Western governments, the Useless UN etc; are not shouting about this from the rooftops, singling out a group of people because of their ethnicity as the only one's included in that Hanging Law is a stand out crime all by itself.

I confess I'm scared for the Palestinians now it has been passed, the thought of what is sure to happen is unbearable.

Judy Bancroft's avatar

And did you also know that to ‘protect’ the sensitivities of the Israeli pressing the button/triggering whatever the actual mechanism is to hang them - they will have 3 people taking same action so no-one knows which one actually ‘released the hanging mechanism’. Can’t upset the executioner….. vile vile vile people

Veronica Baker's avatar

Those poor sensitive people who simply can't understand why they have to keep leaving their homes to go to the bomb shelters, so traumatic for the poor dears who wouldn't hurt a fly.

Sorry, got carried away in my sarcasm there but I'm sure you understand. Can't upset the executioner indeed. Even vile, a word I use for them myself no longer seems strong enough to describe them.

Peter Sawchuk's avatar

They are pure unadulterated evil devoid of even a shred of conscience or empathy. If there truly is a Judgement Day they will all be in for one Hell of a shock.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Maybe if Iran keep on, that shock is quickly coming.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

Oh I think we can go much, much farther with sarcasm than that when it comes to the chosenites.

Veronica Baker's avatar

I completely agree, though whether my choice words to describe them are fit to be written is another matter.

SW's avatar

I don’t think a group of people are necessarily born evil or depraved and many Jews have condemned the genocide and aggressive wars by Israel. But it’s an unavoidable fact the majority of Israeli citizens agree with their government’s actions.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Indeed they do. Someone pointed out that some are protesting their government and wanting them to end the war against Iran. As I pointed out, it's because they're fed up with running to the bomb shelters, not because they've suddenly developed compassion for those their country attacks.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Spot on description of a real pirate.

David's avatar

We have been conditioned all our lives to only discuss trivial issues, sports in particular and entertainment so our focus has been very narrow. If we veer away from those trivialities we are greeted by silence or the topic is switched on us. The public has been so brainwashed they think that is normal--well it isn't normal to not be able to discuss the war crimes committed by our so-called Democracy in the pursuit of "Freedom". The perpetrators need to be singled out and after they leave office prosecuted if not here (slight chance) then overseas as war criminals.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

I mean, if the system totally collapses, they will be the first rats to abandon ship. Remember Ted Cruz (R-Cancun)? One saving grace is if for some reason they can't leave, then what their "prosecution" looks like in a collapsed system would be much bloodier and violent. The people would (rightly) be rabid for vengeance. It's a little star I wish upon at times.

Patrick Powers's avatar

Their vengeance is being directed at "foreigners." It's a very successful tactic.

William Zannoni's avatar

This is a masterpiece.

philistinie's avatar

All I know is someday they will gone off the surface of the earth. I sure hope there is hell for them to be in it for eternity!

Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

In a system where the label "democracy" is a cruel joke, it follows that the worst criminals have the inside track. And it follows that ass-covering propaganda and outright lying is the actual rule of law.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

I rather disagree with the premise that those who control the theater are "free" agents.

These assholes can't step out of their homes (or castles) without armed body guards. Can't travel in commercial venues or within populated areas without cadres of pestering journalists, private handlers, and planned "security" protocols. They can't say or do anything without evidence becoming an item of record. They must "appear" in good form 24/7 - regardless of actual physical, mental, or spiritual health. They're imprisoned in an imaginary world they themselves created, and they'll never escape the illusions of status. Wonderful. I just think they're fucking idiots...

Feral Finster's avatar

The west is well on the way to being a glorified Brasil.

The present situation in Brasil suits the elites there just fine, and it will suit the elites in the west just dandy as well.

Veronica Baker's avatar

While homeless street children, go to sleep on the traffic islands in the middle of the road because the busy roads give them some protection from those rich elites cruising round looking for a little boy or girl they want to take home...... and not for adoption.

Veronica Baker's avatar

I think that depends on how they choose to live once they've attained whatever position, it's their own attitude to the population, things like that.

In Iran, the "people in power" there walk down the street like ordinary people, laughing and talking with people they meet, anything they're still doing even while bombs are falling, they take the same chances as their people. If a top official in Iran or Palestine, is hit by a missile, people in the West piss me off, they say things like " Why didn't the army, police , whoever get them to a safe house?"

I just want to shake people when they say that, can't they realise there are government officials , leaders, who don't consider their life more important than the man's on the street. They don't use bodyguards, and still travel as they always have. If a few other countries have leaders like that, why can't we in the West and the richer Arab countries.

Peter Sawchuk's avatar

As in how many clips did you see of Castro out in public? There were hundreds of them out there. Too bad people can't see that this was because the people remembered the days of U.S./organized crime lords that promoted exploitation and murder that preceded him.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Yep, he's another one, there's quite a few leaders who weren't afraid to meet their people when you really think about it, not so many in the Western world though.

jamenta's avatar

And so ironic. Many of them as you say, do live miserable lives, even as they wear the accoutrements of success and have more money than most of us could ever imagine. And yet, it frequently is never enough - because what they really want can't be achieved by the path they've chosen. Empty souls in empty suits.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Hello jamenta. I've enjoyed your many comments, and often wish my "like" button was still working. Ah well... A poignant quote:

“Those who fervently seek the annihilation of others are really driven by the longing for self-annihilation.” - David Émile Durkheim - (April 15, 1858 - November 15, 1917)

jamenta's avatar

Thx Paul. Your comments are not to shabby either.

Patrick Powers's avatar

I'd say these are just the hired salespeople. The names and faces of the true rulers are unknown to the general public.

Walden Mathews's avatar

They are pimps and drug dealers, and they succeed largely because we crave the false treasures they promise, and it is easy for them to ride those cravings having neutralized all resistance. An immune system can only expel the invaders it can recognize,and we have sold our ability to do even that.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

I think that's the whole points of those cartoons, to create adults who think in those binary terms, and never look at who and what are causing so many of the catastrophes in our world that are unnecessary and that profit the already wealthy and powerful.

Feral Finster's avatar

I have always thought that anarchist critiques of state and power were founded. The question is what to replace them with?

jamenta's avatar

I used to think having a State Constitution was a good start. But maybe not.

Veronica Baker's avatar

I guess it is if they keep to what is said.

Moebius Infinity's avatar

Divide the US in 49 countries that will solve a few things.

Feral Finster's avatar

Nobody of influence and authority would stand for it, as the US is more valuable as a going concern.

Moebius Infinity's avatar

Once its economy goes down the drain the states who still have an industry may want to disconnect from the concrete jungles that run on fake value

Feral Finster's avatar

Wishful thinking, considering the advantages that those states have in a going concern.

Moebius Infinity's avatar

There are limits and alternative firms of greed once the crisis strangles big real estate.

Now with big tech and the need to feed AI with energy that energy is essential in the concrete jungles. Unless they ditch the jungles...

It is an option, just depends on the level of bat-shit.

Feral Finster's avatar

I am not sure what you are trying to say here.

Henri Mellett's avatar

I read somewhere the anarchists in spain spent decades educating people before the revolution. An educated populace to replace power and state?...lots to do...

Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

China seems to be working very well, and with their increasing influence, ppl might want to start learning Mandarin.

Feral Finster's avatar

China is many things, but anarchy it is not.

Patrick Powers's avatar

Well, you asked for something different....

Beklan's avatar

You and your husband wrote a book exactly about this—to help people unlearn what they’ve been spoon-fed by the ruling system and the patriarchy, and to give them a chance to escape the matrix. I only wish you had also published it on Kindle and not just in hard copy.

John Bolger's avatar

What’s the title of that book please?

Beklan's avatar

“Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix”

Rodolfo Marusi Guareschi's avatar

Yes, Caitlin, capitalism has built a world upside down and judged it upside down. This system considers terrorists those who seek to improve socioeconomic relations and those who fight to liberate their country, while it considers benefactors those who steal wealth from the people and give alms. And all this through the use of money, fear, and propaganda. The problem is structural, widespread: the exception proves the rule.

Sean Griobhtha's avatar

"Succession Of Slaughter

"But the worst perpetrators of injustice have been US Presidents and business and international colonial powers."

https://griobhtha1.substack.com/p/x-rubicon-lies-and-damned-lies

musicbob's avatar

US citizens would be storming the street if they were allowed to understand how much every aspect of their daily lives has been turned to shit, made far worse, because of constant wars/killing by their country (which is almost assuredly the result of this country’s system of capitalism). By the way, I use the word “their", even though I live in the United States and I am technically a citizen, because I don't feel I belong to this country… or any country… or any religion… ever since I was a young kid (I think maybe 3 or 4 was my earliest memory of feeling this way), I could never understand how those concepts applied to me, just never "got it”, never seemed to make any sense to me, and therefore never felt any affinity at all, in any way, for them… always a complete disconnect for me… no matter how how hard others/family/loved_ones/friends/strangers tried to “connect” me. But, I sure do often feel a direct, often times deep, connection/affinity for the humans standing right next to, near, me.

Every single aspect of our lives is affected by our constant war and killing of other people (psychologically and then physically, or simultaneously), even though we do it far away from the land we live in. The effects are so gradual and imperceptible over time that we don't realize it is happening to us… which is exactly why, instead, most of us MIS-attribute how shitty everything has become in this country to a wide, dizzying, array of IN-correct causes.

Indu Abeysekara's avatar

musicbob, I am with you. I am happy not belonging. If I belong anywhere it is with humanity. Maybe as an internationalist.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Exactly humanity, no matter what land or country they come from, internationalist sounds good to me.

musicbob's avatar

I love what you just wrote.

Patrick Powers's avatar

I moved to a much different country more to my taste.

Veronica Baker's avatar

You are not alone in those feelings, like yourself the disconnect set in at an early age for me, I'm sure there are quite a few of us feeling like that but it's rare we can express how we feel.

musicbob's avatar

Strangely Veronica, what you wrote makes me feel slightly more "at ease" (even if just temporarily/momentarily).

Veronica Baker's avatar

Enjoy it while you can, even temporary ease makes the day look a little better.

jamenta's avatar

"wearing expensive suits"

So true how easily an "expensive suit" makes you think the person before you has integrity and intelligence. I guess the "expensive suit" represents the archetypal father figure in Western society. The father who is stern but protective. Has wealth and can wisely lead the family. All because they are wearing an "expensive suit".

Harry Ziboo's avatar

Not me, I think 🤔 of a pimp.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

It's a clown suit from the perspective of someone who sees through the whole sham of things.

Veronica Baker's avatar

A case of never judge a book by it's cover.