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Mar 16Liked by Caitlin Johnstone

Excellent. This is the best description of our depraved duopoly I have read. I do wonder, as an old-school, genuinely leftist, democrat, what we can do about these criminals? How can we stop them? Millions of us are writing, calling, protesting, and boycotting. We are ignored.

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Send them a message the Dems and Republicans can't ignore. Vote Green Party. People, Planet and Peace. It will scare the sh*t out of the fascists.

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History repeats.

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In 1944 the treacherous Zionists, who were leaders in their community,

betrayed their own people and tricked them onto the trains to Auschwitz.

Hundreds of thousands went, confident in their Zionist leaders.

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After the war the State of Israel protected these betrayers some of which

had become leaders in the reigning administration.

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Will it be different this time?

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Will the betrayal and treachery of the leaders of Israel that led to

the ***intentional*** security failure on Oct 7th be investigated?

Will it be honestly investigated or will it be buried under excuses?

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Levi(?),

If Social Media like TikTok has anything to do with it (?) ; I dare say, not this time. Burying those crimes won’t be so easy .

It’s out there now easily acceptable regardless of the channel through which it’s being broadcast and recorded.

THAT is a very encouraging development.

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I intend to do this. Voted Green in 2016, but for Biden in 2020 as I thought it so important to get Trump out. Boy, do I regret that! Biden is as bad as Trump—possibly worse in some ways.

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Ahhhhh Mary, I did the same as you and I hang my head in shame 😭

Never again! I see Jill Stein gaining huge momentum. She’ll get my vote, as well that of us thousands of us who voted “uncommitted” here in Michigan. Genocide Joe; if you think we’ll forget Gaza by November, your’re more brain-addled than I previously thought. You are NOT getting MY STATE!

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gypsy33:,

Are you in a so called “swing” state?

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Biden has gotten us into more wars. with more to come; plus the intel agencies don't like Trump because he's impulsive and hard to control, and Trump hates people that don't like him. a divided blob is a less effective blob, one hopes.

I think he is somewhere on the psychopathic scale; I trust Trump, in the end, to try to save his own ass, and to be more pragmatic and less blinded by ideology in doing that. i could see him turning on a dime and dumping Israel, or any ally, if it becomes too much of a liability to him personally. I can't say i can see the democrats doing that. I mean, it's losing Biden the election at the moment, but they don't change underlying policy.

I don't understand the process whereby groups of humans can turn themselves into limited purpose psychopaths, but I think bouncy castles and national fight Islamophobia day are an important part of it.

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pretzelattack(?),

You might be surprised how workable this just might be ,

however, a stable sociopath (JRB), vs an unstable psychopath (DJT), (?): is the choice we have to work with.

How can this be worked to our advantage(?); that is THE question.

I know far too many who are literally planning how to live in a Trump oligarchy in a post progressive America. Saving up to get their passports to some “safe” island of sanity, abandoning The US to become The National Socialist States of America. Others are stockpiling weapons and preparing for a literal civil war: (not knowing what a civil war would mean for them). They come from both and all sides of the political divide. They’ve given up on any workable solutions.

Unfortunately, the strong possibility of the 3rd to 5th Party alternatives all but guarantees this scenario. Certainly frustration, anger. rage, and horror in response to the currently photographed and documented genocide (there have been SO many others sadly): is justified and the reaction of a normal person who still has and maintains a socially responsible conscience. That is one of the most encouraging signs out of all this misery: people who were indoctrinated to believe in one way only are now openly abandoning that mentality: AND they are taking ACTION : REAL world boots on the ground action. Whilst not the idealist form of protest and action(?); it’s the one that can actually cause CHANGE : REAL and lasting REFORM.

The practice of taking out that rage by cyber bullying and personal attacks (as has been done by posters and the causative effect of AI generated trolls), utilizing data on the ground, pointing out the all too real and intentional failings of many governments and ruling classes, is understandable, (and in some cases heroic!);

It does little to no good to solve the issues, or provide a way out that does not take more lives, and cause greater suffering: (the common reference to “collateral damage” is frightening and is uttered so casually by the idealistic and by the indoctrinated), is horrifying. It’s quite literally been the road to 2 World Wars (so far) and is the favorite instrument of the hopeless and the anarchist. They , like the indoctrinated, want to take ANY action as long as it satisfies their idea of morality. THAT was the mentality that led to the near extinction of humanity 78 and 62 years ago. As has been said by religious and civic philosophers: “ the road to salvation is narrow and cramped and few are the ones finding it”.

We need to make sure that MANY MORE find that road than before us :

And RIGHT NOW.

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I think both Trump and Biden are psychopaths and fascists--Biden did a better job of coloring within the lines until his brain started deteriorating. A Trump oligarchy looks like a Biden oligarchy to me. What I was trying to get at in my comment is the way that that groups of people manage the stories they tell themselves, about themselves, as they transition to psychopathic behavior-the bouncy castles and family values they "uphold" even as they do their very best to make sure more babies starve. The recent Grayzone video about the settlers blocking aid shows how hard they work at that. Americans are guilty of the same thing, but at a remove; it is easier to ignore the genocides the US has been involved in, especially as the mainstream media do their best to hide and distort the facts on the ground, and most of that ground is on the other side of the world.

I don't know what to do about all this; people like Max Blumenthal and Caitlin are doing valuable work to at least make it more possible to have an honest debate. I'm looking at it from a different perspective--I think in the US the chance of meaningful action lies in the faint possibility of third parties getting enough traction in this rigged process to challenge for power, but the main hope lies in whatever the rest of the world winds up doing about the American problem. I hope the US empire gradually fades away, and that the US learns to live with being one of many countries, and not the center of the universe, and that China and Russia and the global south will build a better world than this one.

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“The fading”:

Hmmm🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽….

I like that pretzelattack. (It’s already started by the way). The inevitable “reward” of an empire that has “retired” and decided to enjoy the “fruits” of its labors. The Brits accomplished this rather well until they lost control of their version of progressive government and now the oldest of organized oligarchs left on earth (The BRF), are attempting to hang on with their last ill gotten shekels. The US are the other hand extended The Anglo Saxon Empire into areas Old Mother England would consider “improper: their decline will take just a bit more time as a result: (but it is apace!).

The third-fifth party scenario isn’t entirely improbable, but I think plausible. As for China and Russia building something “better”(?), they have no experience at any idea of self governance or the infrastructure to put that into place. Socially and mentally their people have yet to create and sustain such a government. The oligarch Czars and Emperors did an incredible job of instilling that mentality, it may take another 150 years to make that a reality.,however (?), given a descent chance (?), sustained by a crash and burn of their ruling class(?),

YES,

They could pull it off!

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

Israel War on Gaza

‘Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21

Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

Israeli forces accused of new massacre of people waiting for Gaza aid

Published On 15 Mar 2024

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Do you think if they were Christians, or Jews they would be mowed down, or in this situation at all? Never. Do you think all our middle eastern wars didn't provide a prelude to this open slaughter? The Middle East should take this as a warning. The hypocrisy of this administration is stunning, the American government is not to be trusted.

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

Fran: I think if mowing down Christians or Jews meant money and more power, yes they would be mowed down.

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No, you would get too much back lash, for sure. No question about it. Anti Arab prejudice is what gave Palestine to the Jews, and once they did, you had the NAKBA. Need I say more? Anti-Arab sentiment has been around forever and has in recent years diminished, but not by much as far as I can see, and it is very prevalent in Israel.

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OK, Christians and Jews would have to love Arabs, then they would be mowed down for money and power. If they supported hatred of Arabs, they might be OK.

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

Susan I have no idea what you are talking about. Let me ask, do you really think we would have had all those Middle Eastern wars, everything being equal except they were Christian nations, well I definitely don't think so. There would be to much backlash, Why do you think Biden and his administration and of course Israel can implement a genocide that can be seen 24/7? They're Muslims. I was active during our many Middle Eastern wars, and you know how much anti-Muslim bullshit I had to listen to? Arabs were always thought of as less then and it's only been in the last 60 years or so people are easing up on their prejudice If you look at our many wars or those we helped implement even in the 20 century where were they, Vietnam, Korea, Indonesia, South America, the Middle East. Maybe I should white, and Christian.

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I am thinking about how Jewish people who support Palestinians are being "mowed down" now. I think it is possible that for the same reasons, Christians and Jews could be attacked politically and socially. Anyone who does not support the narratives of the wealthy elite is, I think, susceptible to being attacked and "othered": jailed, losing jobs, etc. I don't know if the middle eastern wars would have happened if those countries had been populated by Jews and Christians. I think that when people want to keep their money and power, any excuse will do.

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And it got worse after 9/11 I’m sorry to say.😢

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“Mowing down Jews”, Susan?

Omfg, the screams of Holocaust! Holocaust! Are already giving me a headache…

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

"mowing down" was not my term. Fran used that term which is why I put it in quotation marks. In my opinion, part of the reason the holocaust was so horrible is that it left people who wanted revenge at any cost. Just like the genocide in Palestine is probably doing now. I think people should see the holocaust as one of the worst things that ever happened in history because it showed us how horrible humans can be to each other. Now we have a genocide that is being done by descendants of holocaust survivors, many of whom never really processed what had happened to them and, instead of seeing how horrible it was for all of humanity, even those who were not Jews or others sent to concentration camps, they have just allowed these feelings of revenge to grow and become monsters. Then money and greed come into it and it gets even uglier. It is probably more complicated than that, but that is my synopsis.

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Disagree, Susan. They WANT THE PALESTINIAN’S LAND, plain and simple.

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That is a very simplistic perspective that does not take anything much about the humans involved into perspective. My hope is to stop hate and violence. Reducing things to your "plain and simple" will not accomplish that.

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On this International Day to Combat Islamophobia, we reaffirm our commitment to upholding the freedom of religion or belief of all and to speak out against acts of anti-Muslim hatred whenever and wherever they occur,” adds Secretary of State Antony Blinken, affectionately known as “the wandering Jew”.

If you really believe that, Blinken, don’t just speak out, but try a few more American actions………..

1. , Stop supplying deadly weapons to kill Palestinian Islamists.

2. Apologise for all your past anti-Islamic war ventures in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen.

3. Tell the remainder of the Islamic world that you do not intend to kill any more Muslims and that you intend to buy your oil supplies when you run out in 8 years time and not impose your military might on countries like you are doing to Syria right now, while stealing their oil every day of every week.

4. You could mention to Afghanistan that you will not be involved in stealing all their heroin supplies as you did for decades to add to the illegal revenues of the CIA.

5. You could apologise for the years of torture that you undertook in Abu Ghraib, because all those people were Muslim as well.

If you need more reasons why you statement sound hypocritical to the rest of the world, I could keep going. Just ring.

I’m sure you get the picture

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There are still Muslim prisoners in Abu Ghraib...would be a good day to release them.

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Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Double Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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But isn't the U.S government just a subject of wealthy lobbies?

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The U.S. govt isn’t a subject of them. It’s wholly…owned…subsidiary:

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

And elections such as this November are pantomimes. Heads they win, tails you lose.

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Zionist money...AIPAC

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“AIPAC” is not just foreign money. It’s also includes Zionists that own or executives of U.S. companies the finance & banking, venture capital media, industry, retail, tech - it’s the US oligarchs too.

For example there are dome recent interviews by Marc Andersen and Peter Thiel and Marc Zuckerberg where you start to understand how rabidly ideological abd delusional they are. And they insert this into their political position, campaign “donations” and even into the operations of the companies they run. Facebook for example is central to censorship of criticism of Zionist extremism.

It’s not merely about lobbying. It’s also about the CONTROL these oligarchs have over their companies over government policy actions.

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Yeah, money talks and AIPAC has a very loud voice with it's money. So?

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I am not sure how many people understand AIPAC controls mostly everything in this world.

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AIPAC and CIA.

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I don't know about everything Jeano, but I do know too much.

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"So?" ????? The presence or absence of MONEY determines the "So". AIPAC is probably one of the most influencial lobbies, but it is not alone in the world of lobby-land.

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Who said they were? Not me.

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They may not be the most influential to you, but they have a lot of sway with those in power. Most likely because of their fat donations.

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Maybe I misunderstood a few points... It wouldn't be the first time...

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

they all learned how in Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, and all the unaccounted for black sites all over the world

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

Or maybe the torture part they were already doing at home:

https://chicagopolicetorturearchive.com/

https://www.chicagotorturejustice.org/history

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

Who has the US as a "friend", does not need an enemy ... !!!

The US does NOT have real allies, they (deep state) have only special interests which will be pursued by ANY best suitable means to achieve desired results.

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Don't blame me, as a kid I separated the people of my country and found them okay, but not the government who just told me made up stories, and what they thought I should hear.

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I wish we could make it happen. Too many can't risk their job or even one day of work. It's by design. How do we hit them in the pocketbook?!?! It might be all they listen to.

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Good question Jessica :

and therein lies the way to resistance that gets them:

Where they exist and live;

It ALSO causes true reform and lasting change.

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then we make it a day

of Celebration . letting

'them' Know we EXIST

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and targetting our

Dollars specifically

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as to Where

hmmmm

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Mary, I don't know what a leftist, democrat means? Sorry, but labels throw me off course since even grouping people into some sort of box does not necessarily lead to a good outcome. While political affiliations may promote strength, they also limit freedom of thought, and all too often freedom of expressions.

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Okay, John, I don’t disagree, and I’ll try to explain. My grandpa was an FDR Democrat who believed the Democratic party in the U.S. was the party of the working man while the Republicans served the rich. I therefore grew up thinking the Democrats stood for equal rights, fair treatment for working people, and the environment. Unfortunately, as I grew up, I saw that neither party truly cared about peace. Both have come to serve the empire and the MIC. There is no political party that truly represents my values. The socialists here in the U.S. come closest, with the greens not far behind. Jill Stein is a good woman. But what chance does she have to truly change things? Our duopoly rewards psychopaths, IMHO.

Not sure this really answers you, btw. Short version: the Democrats have changed. From Clinton on, they’ve swung to the right and are now basically 1970’s Republicans, if not outright fascists. The Republicans have become fascists. And neither party ever cared much about issues of war and peace and humanity rights.

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Mary,

may not have expressed my point as clearly as I wanted. What I am trying to point out is that placing people into some sort of box/class/sector, is a disservice to all of us. There are thousands of people with thousands of ideas who don't fit into any category, which in my view allows them greater freedom to express ideas and to expand horizons. To apply labels to entire groups of people seems almost contrary to democratic ideals. For example, when someone states an opinion, the opinion should not have anything t do with past positions, but rather to the discussion at hand, with Left and Right affiliations absolutely meaningless.

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Democrats grouped themselves into a tight box. Even Republicans have diversity in ideas and primaries, while Democrats don't. They are monolithic and fascistic-like. I hear Omar will back Biden. She will do it to preserve her political life. 

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I hope she doesn't.

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The Hill wrote 3 days ago: Omar says Israel policy divisions won't stop her from supporting Biden in November. Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) said policy differences toward Israel between her and President Biden won't stop her from supporting him in the November general election.

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Jeez...........I feel sick!

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

It really is inconceivable at this point - that these cretins in congress have any semblance to actually being on the Left - when they are willing to equivocate even with a genocide.

And yet - here we are.

I guess they've been given their marching orders - it's The Lesser of Two Evils bullshit yet again.

But Trump ....

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Mary, The answer is right here: 18 U.S. Code § 1091. This is the US law that incorporates the Genocide Convention. I want to see the Biden Administration charged under this law. How to make this happen? At the very least we should all be trying to find those who can either seek a Writ of Mandamus in court directing the DOJ to enforce this law, or citizens’ arrests every protest.

They need to know there”s no place to hide, especially when they leave office.

Someone in the D.C. area will have to step up to the plate. Would that be you? Otherwise, please help me spread the word about this.

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

NEVER vote, tell all to never vote. If no one voted, all would then take control of their "nation" which was long ago handed over to the Founding Liars, Founding Holocausters, ... And the offsprin, the spawn of those devils have been doing the same pure evil ever since.

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Mar 16Liked by Caitlin Johnstone

"This is so creepy." That pretty much sums it up. Elegantly written essay...thank you. Your comment "Republicans kill Muslims while saying they hate Muslims, while Democrats kill Muslims while saying they love them," perfectly reflects what I have been saying to friends and family who seem to find no fault as long as it's Dems doing the dirty deeds. I do give the repugs this: they're honest about their hated and cruelty.

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Exactly, WITBD.

At least with Trump( and no, I’m not voting for him), what you see is what you get, while Genocide Joe sheds bitter crocodile tears over what HE has wrought.

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The GOP/GQP Republicans have publicly owned their misconduct and seek to broaden it in public. There is something to be said for that;

Yes.

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Oh Caitlin ❤️‍🔥 your descriptions tear off the masks but the putrid odor of these disgusting liars are dystopian 🤬🤬

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At least jill stein has ballot access in over forty states. So if want to vote, consider her steadfastness and integrity. Theres so much crappola in this usa life 21st Century.

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We're working hard so Jill Stein will be on all 50 states and DC ballots. Sign up to volunteer and help her campaign at jillstein2024.com

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👍👍👍

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Eileen, She is indeed a person who merits some attention.....

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​ Israel’s Security Chief Cheers Killing of Palestinian Child

Twelve-year-old Rami al-Halhouli was fatally shot while playing with fireworks in a Jerusalem refugee camp

​ Ben-Gvir claimed the border officer “shot a terrorist” who had tried to “use firecrackers” against Israeli forces the night prior, arguing the guard did “exactly what was expected of him” in executing the unarmed preteen.

​ “I salute the soldier who killed the terrorist who tried to shoot fireworks at him and the troops. This is exactly how you should act against terrorists – with determination and precision,” he added in another post.

https://news.antiwar.com/2024/03/13/israels-security-chief-cheers-killing-of-palestinian-child/

Israel killed more children in Gaza in last 5 months than all conflicts worldwide for last 4 years: UN rapporteur

'Destroying a population from its roots. Genocide is a process, not an act, and what is happening in Gaza is a tragedy foretold,' says Francesca Albanese

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-killed-more-children-in-gaza-in-last-5-months-than-all-conflicts-worldwide-for-last-4-years-un-rapporteur/3163509

Israel To Move Civilians to ‘Humanitarian Islands’ Before Invasion​ [This forced dislocation is also a war crime.]

Tel Aviv claims it will move the 1.5 million Palestinians sheltering in Rafah to other areas of the Strip, then attack the city.

https://news.antiwar.com/2024/03/13/israel-to-move-civilians-to-humanitarian-islands-before-invasion/

​ The UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) food distribution center in Gaza was hit by an Israeli airstrike, killing five. The bombing of the facility is the latest in a series of Israeli attacks on food distribution in Gaza. The Israeli military operations in Gaza and restrictions on aid entering the Strip have placed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians on the brink of starvation.

​ Witnesses, Gazan health officials, and the UN reported that Israel attacked the UNRWA warehouse in Rafah on Wednesday, killing five people, including one UNRWA worker. Officials reported that scores were injured in the attack without providing a number. The Israeli onslaught in Gaza has had a massive impact on aid workers.

​ One Palestinian in Rafah said the attack was particularly concerning because UNRWA sites are generally considered safer. “It’s a UNRWA center, expected to be secure,” one resident said. Over the past five months, 165 UNRWA workers have been killed, and over 150 of the agency’s buildings in Gaza have been hit.

https://news.antiwar.com/2024/03/13/israel-bombs-food-distribution-center-in-gaza-killing-five/

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Their capacity to rationalize, justify the killing of that 12 year old boy is disgusting.

That they think the Israeli population will accept that explanation is unbelievable. but if they do they too are as loathsome as the man who killed him.

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While everything you say here is essentially true Caitlin, let's not forget that the Palestinians are a diverse group, ethnically and religiously speaking. Palestinian Baha'i and Druze and Christians are all, just as much - in the cross-hairs of the Empire, and targeted for Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing.

The PLO and PFLP were both multi-ethnic groups, who represented the diversity of the Palestinian community quite well - pushing not Islamism, but Pan-Arab Socialism, as part of the Palestinian liberation struggle, against Anglo-American Zionist Imperialism.

Hamas was created and fostered with Covert assistance from both the Zionist Entity, and the Empire's Intelligence Community. https://www.thehandstand.org/archive/jan2002/EdcellJan2002/rezeq/ - this essay which I originally found in Covert Action Quarterly (at the time they were a physical magazine, and not just a website) explains how the Zionist Entity deliberately split the Palestinian resistance, along ethnic and sectarian lines. What it doesn't really focus upon, is how this program adhered to larger trends, within the Empire's Ideological matrix.

As Angus Mackenzie's amazing book (that led directly to his murder, by galloping CIA cancer) points out - the rise of "anti-terrorism" corresponded to the political unsustainability of continued overt domestic political spying, following the revelations around COINTELPRO and the Church Committee. http://whale.to/b/mackenzie_b.html#Hiding_Political_Spying_ . (It's a great book Caitlin, I highly recommend it, if you haven't read it yet. Professor Mackenzie paid for writing it, with his life, apparently.)

The point being, as the USSR began to collapse, and posed the existential threat to the Empire of the lack of an External Enemy/threat - Islamic fundamentalist terrorism was directly fostered, and positioned to combat first the USSR, and after their fall - the Anglo-American Zionist Empire. This was expressed explicitly in the "Clash of Civilizations" thesis of Samuel Huntington, and obliquely in Fukuyama's "The End of History", written in the same period. It fits directly into the post-Soviet era's political/diplomatic/intelligence formulation, called: OPERATION HOMETEAM. This is the fundamentalism of the Empire (aka "The West" and "The international community") - we are the indispensable ones, and everyone who opposes us are "terrorists" and "rogue nations". And to further it, we deliberately foster terrorism, and act like a rogue nation, blatantly violating International laws, whenever and wherever we feel like it. So we oppose Al.Qaeda - except in Chechnya, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Xinjiang and Yemen, where they fight on our behalf, for CIA Paychecks.

By fostering HAMAS and destroying the PLO, the multi-ethnic Pan-Arab Socialist Palestinian resistance, has been transformed into "Palestinian Islamic Resistance" - which fits into the Empire's preferred narratives, better.

Your points here were well-taken...but I fear that they inadvertently reinforce the Zionists' and Empire's preferred narratives, by essentializing the Palestinians as a muslim people. Some are, some aren't. But all of the Palestinians are targeted for extinction and/or removal.

It should be noted, that what the Empire is doing, here, is the assertion and exhibition of power. They can say blatantly schizophrenic or just false things... As in Orwell's 1984 - their power is demonstrated by making everyone else go along with the narrative. 2+2 equals, whatever they want to say that it equals, at any given moment. So the cognitive dissonance of the Empire, preaching against things that they overtly practice (Islamophobia) - while covertly fostering the thing that gives Islamophobia its raison d'etre (Islamist/Takfiri Wahabi Jihadism) - is all part of the same cognitive dissonance Operation.

The goal, at the end of the day, is to make thinking so painful, that we all just learn to numb ourselves, and accept the propaganda as it's fed to us, without any attempts at logical interrogation.

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Thank you and well spoken.

Your historical research is extensive.

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

Good ol' think tank boy here summarizes Caitlin's brilliant concise essay above as:

"Your points here were well-taken...but I fear that they inadvertently reinforce the Zionists' and Empire's preferred narratives"

What an intellectual load of ... shit.

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Speaking of a load of shit ... What think tank am I supposed to be with? I know of no think tank willing to underwrite critical thinking that opposes the Empire. Please direct me to this place, where rather than having my career deliberately destroyed (as it was at Pacifica Radio, pursuant to the CIA retaking the network), I can have a stable paycheck - for telling the inconvenient truths, that the Empire wants to keep concealed or confused.

Caitlin's essay inadvertently conflates the Palestinians with Muslims - that's what the Zionists WANT - just like they want you to conflate all Muslims with HAMAS, and HAMAS with "ISIS". What part didn't you get, about that?

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how would you correct the point caitlin is making?

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By simply pointing out, in a footnote or a parenthetical that the Palestinians aren't all Muslims, and that many of the people, that these anti-Muslim bigots are slaughtering and cheering a genocide about, mercilessly, are actually Christians or Druze, or perhaps secular humanists, etc..

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wouldn't that somewhat blunt the point of pointing out the hypocrisy of genocide joe and blinken though? muslims might think they really mean their 'best wishes', and vote for the butchers of primarily muslims. they might think it is just a coincidence?

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85% of Palestinians are Muslim - you fucking moron.

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Additionally "Muslim" isn't a monolith. There's several different varieties, Shia and Sunni and Sufi are the three major groups, but there are sub-sects within each.

And it isn't like the Zionist Empire really cares, about the faith, or lack thereof, of the Palestinians. Even if your dubious and essentializing statistic about 85% Muslim were correct - they would still want to slaughter and deport the rest, as well - meaning that this isn't about religion at all. It's about the politics of an Ethno-Nationalist/Ethno-Supremacist STATE, and even Christians and Druze and atheists are a problem for them.

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That's not true. At least one third are Christians. So please go to a mirror - and repeat the part about "fucking moron" to the appropriate party.

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99% Muslims on the GAZA strip.

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Karl Rove:

The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' [...] 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community#:~:text='We're%20an%20empire%20now,how%20things%20will%20sort%20out.

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Exactly. I told the audience about that quote, when I had a radio show. It's pretty shocking.

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

What's shocking is how someone can read Caitlin's brilliant substack essay here (one among many), and then come up with some fucking screwball argument that Caitlin is "reinforcing the Zionists' and Empire's preferred narratives". Or quoting fish face Bill here: has a "selfish disregard for the people of the world".

And then go on to argue that 99% of the Gazans are not Muslims.

WTF?

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What I find shocking is your ignorance and inability to comprehend complexity and nuance.

Feel free to read Rezeq Faraj's essay, and educate your yokel-self.

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

Yeah - a genocide is complex, and so is Caitlin's article. Who knew?

Didn't realize until today how many political op trolls have now attached themselves to Caitlin's comments section. You guys are like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork, now that the POTUS elections have rolled into town.

Need a flamethrower!

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Well you can just go fuck yourself - all the way back to Idaho you fucking cretin. I've been doing the work that Caitlin has taken up, far more recently, for literally decades... And no, I'm not JUST talking, about as an International and National broadcaster, Host, Producer, Engineer, News Anchor to Reporter in the field... I've actually been doing the work as an activist - for decades. And I KNOW what an OP looks like... And this ain't it, dipshit.

So again you can fuck right off - or better yet, tell when you're showing up at a rally, and how I can spot you in the crowd... So we can continue this discussion eye to eye.

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"This is so creepy." That pretty much sums it up. Elegantly written essay...thank you. Your comment "Republicans kill Muslims while saying they hate Muslims, while Democrats kill Muslims while saying they love them," perfectly reflects what I have been saying to friends and family who seem to find no fault as long as it's Dems doing the dirty deeds. I do give the repugs this: they're honest about their hated and cruelty.

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It is essential to see genocide in its full historical context because the British and American empires have committed genocides killing tens of millions through war, famine, sanctions. Carpet bombing and massacring populations is nothing new. The Holocaust is far from being the definitive genocide, many have been longer and more devastating.

We can now consider war and genocide as one in the same as clearly the intention is to erase whole populations. Where war used to center on combatants fighting it out, it is now the indiscriminate killing field for everything living thing as Israel's military so callously refers to it as "mowing the grass".

It now appears there is every intention of simply eliminating " the white man's burden".

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Well phrased Robert: and point ON.

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"Democrats are the the psychopathic PR managers running around photoshopping smiley faces on the fascism."

Spot on! And that makes the Dems all the more dangerous because lots of idiots fall for the smiley faces. It's time to rip the smileys off the fascism. Who's with me? #FreePalestine #PowerToThePeople

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As soon as Israel complained young people watched too many videos of the genocide in Gaza on TikTok and that’s why they don’t support them, Congress banned it faster than you can say “campaign contribution”. Heartwarming bipartisanship on full display. While there are some exceptions, most have the integrity of a fentanyl drug dealer.

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Not banned yet I believe. It goes to the Senate but it looks like it will be banned.

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Succinct.

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Pointing out the hypocrisy of a sociopath is a waste of time. They know that they are hypocrites.

They don't care, and will not stop unless given a reason to do so.

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

The hard part comes afterward, what are you going to do once you know you're being forced into a situation that no sane person should be in?

Must be how Russia feels right now - with the continuing insane talk coming from Macron and the recent idea of the German high command to directly attack Crimea territory with long range German missiles. Obviously, Putin does not want to escalate - but what do you do when you have NeoCon fanatics in the West and AIPAC pushing a suicidal agenda in the world?

What do you do with Genocide?

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Mar 16·edited Mar 16

Like trying to reason with a virus. Russia has a fundamental disadvantage here, as does anyone dealing with sociopaths. They have scruples and the sociopaths don't, and they know it.

Hence, the sociopaths keep pushing.

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Thank You Caitlin

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Sending this to my P. O. S. Congresscritters, Democrats all. Not that it'll matter but they deserve a well-aimed barb at their slimy faces for backing this Genocide.

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Good for you!

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Well said. For years, through multiple administrations, I would have conversations with one relative in particular who used to swear by the NY Times. He would say "Obama said this", "George Bush said so and so", "Hilliry Clinton indicated blah blah blah." I would almost always reply "He/She SAID that, but never DID it. He would reply incredulously, "That can't be." I'd say "Look it up." He never would. He fell for the same "sweet talk" EVERY time over decades.

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Yeah, because relentless propaganda works. And most people believe only what they want to believe. And cognitive dissonance makes many people high.

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Chen(?),

I believe you’ve hit on something:

indeed, the salving of conscience is most potent drug indeed.

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2 options - one they know perfectly well what Caitlin eloquently describes, but are so cynical and devoid of moral character they just don't care - or - they don't realise the depth of their cognitive dissonance and should be locked up in an institution for the criminally insane

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