💯 celebrities can go fuck themselves, they are a worthless lot, for the most part. Zionists are evil bastards and must be stopped by any means necessary!
There are celebrities who are our Comrades in the Resistance🇵🇸 and some have risked their lives and wellbeing. There are many musicians. Roger Waters leads the pack. He just hit #1 with his latest album. The old man won't quit! There's Willie Nelson, The Irish Rockers and Rappers!
Be careful with blanket statements. It's some advice I was given by a wise man. You're over 90% correct though!
I was recently telling a friend that I'm so frustrated, angry, and psychotically murderous towards Zionists. I want them all either dead or sent back to Poland/ Ukraine. Fnck every one of them to he'll. I hate beyond hate Israel.
And I'm really hating America for co- committing this holocaust.
It gets both from me…tears and anger. The tears come first. Tears for the suffering and death. Anger for knowing who and what is doing it…their lies…and for what agendas.
Most have no clue. I have anger for them too. — for the level of pathetic ignorance, carelessness, apathy, distraction, etc., that most Americans exhibit. People largely don’t want the truth nor to awaken from their illusions.
It all really saddens me AND pisses me off.
Perhaps when people start to actually see and feel the underlying agenda themselves, will they wake up.
Thank you for this - It's both. And there's an exception to Caitlin's one response though that response is totally understandable in the context she's speaking. I have come to know a number of families going through the terror, horror. starvation, fear and anguish for their children and for their husbands and sons in Israeli dungeons, via GoFundMe over these two years and that is not a place to vent one's anger - they need to be seen and witnessed,they need love and compassion and physical support. Like you, my anger, rage and public actions goes towards the sadistic monsters causing such unspeakable suffering.
I live in the midst of people who have had someone taken hostage. I feel sad for them, but that sadness is diminished somewhat when they start talking about Israel's right to defend itself and other such crap.
I agree wholeheartedly. The more we feel helpless and accept, even with heartbreak, that our world allows genocide and ethnic cleansing of an “unpopular” group of people, the more it plays into the hands of the powers behind it.
They are not trying to hide this- they are trying to flagrantly advertise what they are doing. They are predictively programming the masses to accept a new reality, a new future where governments brazenly commit war crimes without consequences. Where human rights become the privilege of the “popular” groups and countries who are backed by the elites and who lick their boots and regurgitate their excuses.
People need to get a lot more angry- Luigi Mangione angry.
People throughout history fought back and revolted and that was the ONLY reason things changed.
The response that pisses me off more than blatant support for Zionism is the ‘it’s complicated’ retort. This stance signifies an aggressively willful and deliberate ignorance.
This is an incredibly important point, Caitlin. Thanks for making it.
We need full on rage for this genocide being committed by Israel and supported by all western governments and many others. With our tax dollars, and without our consent.
I’ve been through so much politico-emotional-psychobabble or newspeak that I do try to stay detached on purpose. But the celebrities themselves have never been to a protest. They’ve never seen a war zone. Nothing about them is real.
I have heard this from others.....that they choose to stay detached. I don't really understand how anyone can feel detached. I just hear Nutty yahoos voice and I feel rage. the only way I can avoid the feeling of rage is to go sleep. But even my dreams are getting populated by this stuff. They are murdering starving people, they are destroying the environment, they are threatening nuclear war. If we stay detached, it just means we are in for a really big shock down the road when the shit hits the fan for ALL of us, not only the Palestinians. When I don't feel rage I feel overwhelming sadness.
With the utmost respect, I actually am just as angry and sad as you are. I’d love to find a creative solution for this chaotic undeveloped emotional energy.
I’m not a hardliner about logic and reason, however it has helped as an organizer to survive the wave of crazed hideous wokeism. There’s no facts, nothing makes sense, everyone is crying and violating each other’s rights. This isn’t great. It’s very ugly.
How to use that anger productively might require activists to spiritually and emotionally develop a bit more.
I get it. I wish I could detach, but it doesn't work for me. I don't see rage and anger in this situation as a lack of spiritual or emotional development. I don't see detaching as a lack of anything either. Different people handle this situation in different ways. I can't stand it when I try to express how I feel and someone tells me not to listen to the news. That only increases my frustration and anger.
"It’s not a tragedy, it’s a crime. A crime that is still currently being perpetrated and urgently needs to be stopped, by any means necessary."
That's the appropriate (and only) way to look at the genocide in Gaza--as a crime, a WAR crime. The celebrities who are wringing their hands now about what's happened are hypocrites. They're possibly on the take to zy0nists and/or have been charged to cause confusion among the public with their crocodile tears. We need to see past these tricks and focus our energy on ending this genocide and getting food and medical aid immediately to the people of Gaza. Don't let anyone or anything get in your way of focusing on the actual needs of the Palestinian people!
I think that one reason this crime continues is that the U.S. has normalized criminal behavior throughout its depraved existence. If Gaza becomes the straw that breaks the camel’s back, it will stand as an historic symbol of human endurance that sealed the fate of the merchants of hate. This empire has to fall, and the alternative media has made more inroads toward that end in a decade, than the commercial media ever did in a century. The great American news bubble has been penetrated, and the reign of propaganda is under attack from ordinary people.
The powerlessness of humanity to end the crime in West Asia is tragic, but the inability of the empire to distract the people from the truth of its government’s nihilistic crimes is inspiring.
When I see another child killed or maimed, I do she'd tears for the parents of the dead child but anger for the killer and the one that mains.
But there is often such fury at the silence and soft stepping of politicians, and, of course, the Israelis, especially Satanyahu and his politician genocides, plus their use of scriptures that they change to suit their murdering agenda. Also for being a haven for paedophilia, which really tells us all we need to know about Israel.
I have to tamp down my anger when typing or, even I won't know what I meant.
"Israel, and its choir, take great pride in extolling and preaching its democratic ideals and opportunity to the rest of the world… no matter how plainly desperate its overreach and fraudulent its claim. Seldom does a day pass without a Zionist apologia for its crimes against humanity, its war crimes, its genocide … skillfully relying upon the cheap talisman that, as the only democracy in the Middle East, it is entitled to do whatever it must to protect its noble call for all its citizens. For the poor, for the oppressed, for the dissenter, for those of a different skin, faith or gender there is nothing unusual or unique about this, by now, timeless pretext. Israel is not alone in its shout to democratic equality that, historically, has meant little more to many than the tyranny of the majority."
Epstein escaped to Israel until his team arranged the settlement with our corrupt government. There was a slim chance that justice would be done. Who thinks he died in prison? Odd how that went down and a body was burned. This entire episode is repugnant example of endless corruption.
Democracy has never really existed except as an ideology. Policies and actions have always been decided by the sword and wealth.
It's the tyranny of the few over the gullible and ignorant majority. Take the republic of the US.
Every four years there's a huge performative circus show to choose between one aging old git and another.
But little changes fundamentally with whose butt farts in the White House.
But the population has been given the massive show, providing entertainment for the population. Then comes disappointment, then ramping up hope that next time the arseholes will do more for "me".
Democratic at the local level to elect local representatives, then a process of rising through the ranks of the governing party based on competence and delivering results.
With multidecade policies to improve the lives of the Chinese, these policies are considered from the local, regional and national aspects before being signed off. They are also constantly reviewed and revised.
China is roughly 50% state and 50% private capitalism. This allows the dynamics of competition in the private sector, but retains essential assets such as infrastructure to be managed by the government.
Through this there is an underlying stable base on which people can prosper and grow.
No liberal democracy has this stability, neoliberalism sells off state assets to put $$$ in the hands of private capitalists, and there is no guarantee of stability.
Look at Trump.
Nobody will invest in the US now. One dictator can turn on a dime, there's no consistency nor long term government strategy.
Just look at all the liberal democracies. They have been around for less than one hundred years, all are failing to deliver prosperity and stability.
Europe decided to create an unelected administration, further removing democracy from the people.
A stable socialist government is the only way to go into the future. With AI and aging populations we need socialism more than ever to redistribute the profits of capitalism to the elderly, poor, schooling and healthcare.
The US is an example of where neiliberal democracies are heading. A few wealthy people and a load of poor indebted humans struggling to get by, infrastructure crumbling because there's no profit in it, and financialisation of everything, which effectively removes democracy from the people and puts it in the hands of the wealthy.
Exactly Richard Parker. Something of which I have studied and observed and been acutely aware of for a while. China is the best role model we have. Humanity is at a juncture where we can truely say it is socialism or death.
Incidentally August 13th was the 99th anniversary of Fidel Castro's birth. He famously said " .... they talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism?"
Unfortunately, in the best of psychopaths and sociopaths, absolutely not. We may only know after their deeds. Meanwhile, relying on our "pre-crime" intuition removes suspects' rights. That means their histories need to be known.
Just watched a documentary on the West Bank, where these "settlers", essentially armed invaders, murderers and thieves, are systemically continuing the theft of Palestinian property.
They turn up on the doorstep of farms, give the occupants a few minutes to leave, then burn and destroy, chasing away the livestock.
Or the Israeli army builds a huge fence around an entire village, blocks the roads with huge iron gates, sets up surveillance cameras and essentially turns the whole village into a prison camp.
The US is funding this, the US is the source of many of these dual nationality armed criminals, the US government is utterly complicit.
I have enough rage for them all.
Naturally the fucking apologists crawl of the cesspit. Two arguments that really put fire to the rage.
"If October 7 hadn't happened, none of this would have happened".
💯 celebrities can go fuck themselves, they are a worthless lot, for the most part. Zionists are evil bastards and must be stopped by any means necessary!
There are celebrities who are our Comrades in the Resistance🇵🇸 and some have risked their lives and wellbeing. There are many musicians. Roger Waters leads the pack. He just hit #1 with his latest album. The old man won't quit! There's Willie Nelson, The Irish Rockers and Rappers!
Be careful with blanket statements. It's some advice I was given by a wise man. You're over 90% correct though!
I said for the most part! I know they aren’t all creeps!🤓
Oops, you sure did! Nice party and Touche'!
agreed
It's time to stand up and fight against the depraved criminals who rule the world with bloody hands.
Depraved WAR criminals they all are!
DAMN RIGHT, Loan!🇵🇸
It definitely has my anger and my anger!! Every time I see that evil smirky bastard, Bibi, smirk and lie I wish Iran would blow up Israel.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Come on, Iran!
I don't have a problem with Israel getting blown up, but the problem is that others like the US would retaliate and then we are in really deep shit.
I was recently telling a friend that I'm so frustrated, angry, and psychotically murderous towards Zionists. I want them all either dead or sent back to Poland/ Ukraine. Fnck every one of them to he'll. I hate beyond hate Israel.
And I'm really hating America for co- committing this holocaust.
It gets both from me…tears and anger. The tears come first. Tears for the suffering and death. Anger for knowing who and what is doing it…their lies…and for what agendas.
Most have no clue. I have anger for them too. — for the level of pathetic ignorance, carelessness, apathy, distraction, etc., that most Americans exhibit. People largely don’t want the truth nor to awaken from their illusions.
It all really saddens me AND pisses me off.
Perhaps when people start to actually see and feel the underlying agenda themselves, will they wake up.
Perhaps too late…
Thank you for this - It's both. And there's an exception to Caitlin's one response though that response is totally understandable in the context she's speaking. I have come to know a number of families going through the terror, horror. starvation, fear and anguish for their children and for their husbands and sons in Israeli dungeons, via GoFundMe over these two years and that is not a place to vent one's anger - they need to be seen and witnessed,they need love and compassion and physical support. Like you, my anger, rage and public actions goes towards the sadistic monsters causing such unspeakable suffering.
I live in the midst of people who have had someone taken hostage. I feel sad for them, but that sadness is diminished somewhat when they start talking about Israel's right to defend itself and other such crap.
I agree wholeheartedly. The more we feel helpless and accept, even with heartbreak, that our world allows genocide and ethnic cleansing of an “unpopular” group of people, the more it plays into the hands of the powers behind it.
They are not trying to hide this- they are trying to flagrantly advertise what they are doing. They are predictively programming the masses to accept a new reality, a new future where governments brazenly commit war crimes without consequences. Where human rights become the privilege of the “popular” groups and countries who are backed by the elites and who lick their boots and regurgitate their excuses.
People need to get a lot more angry- Luigi Mangione angry.
People throughout history fought back and revolted and that was the ONLY reason things changed.
Thank You Caitlin
The response that pisses me off more than blatant support for Zionism is the ‘it’s complicated’ retort. This stance signifies an aggressively willful and deliberate ignorance.
To me the “it’s complicated” is cowardice, a refusal to take a clear stand and call evil, evil.
This is an incredibly important point, Caitlin. Thanks for making it.
We need full on rage for this genocide being committed by Israel and supported by all western governments and many others. With our tax dollars, and without our consent.
I'm fucking furious!
Thank you the likes of Bono & Madonna can go get Fkd safe to say I make sure I block their music
I’ve been through so much politico-emotional-psychobabble or newspeak that I do try to stay detached on purpose. But the celebrities themselves have never been to a protest. They’ve never seen a war zone. Nothing about them is real.
I have heard this from others.....that they choose to stay detached. I don't really understand how anyone can feel detached. I just hear Nutty yahoos voice and I feel rage. the only way I can avoid the feeling of rage is to go sleep. But even my dreams are getting populated by this stuff. They are murdering starving people, they are destroying the environment, they are threatening nuclear war. If we stay detached, it just means we are in for a really big shock down the road when the shit hits the fan for ALL of us, not only the Palestinians. When I don't feel rage I feel overwhelming sadness.
With the utmost respect, I actually am just as angry and sad as you are. I’d love to find a creative solution for this chaotic undeveloped emotional energy.
I’m not a hardliner about logic and reason, however it has helped as an organizer to survive the wave of crazed hideous wokeism. There’s no facts, nothing makes sense, everyone is crying and violating each other’s rights. This isn’t great. It’s very ugly.
How to use that anger productively might require activists to spiritually and emotionally develop a bit more.
I get it. I wish I could detach, but it doesn't work for me. I don't see rage and anger in this situation as a lack of spiritual or emotional development. I don't see detaching as a lack of anything either. Different people handle this situation in different ways. I can't stand it when I try to express how I feel and someone tells me not to listen to the news. That only increases my frustration and anger.
"It’s not a tragedy, it’s a crime. A crime that is still currently being perpetrated and urgently needs to be stopped, by any means necessary."
That's the appropriate (and only) way to look at the genocide in Gaza--as a crime, a WAR crime. The celebrities who are wringing their hands now about what's happened are hypocrites. They're possibly on the take to zy0nists and/or have been charged to cause confusion among the public with their crocodile tears. We need to see past these tricks and focus our energy on ending this genocide and getting food and medical aid immediately to the people of Gaza. Don't let anyone or anything get in your way of focusing on the actual needs of the Palestinian people!
I think that one reason this crime continues is that the U.S. has normalized criminal behavior throughout its depraved existence. If Gaza becomes the straw that breaks the camel’s back, it will stand as an historic symbol of human endurance that sealed the fate of the merchants of hate. This empire has to fall, and the alternative media has made more inroads toward that end in a decade, than the commercial media ever did in a century. The great American news bubble has been penetrated, and the reign of propaganda is under attack from ordinary people.
The powerlessness of humanity to end the crime in West Asia is tragic, but the inability of the empire to distract the people from the truth of its government’s nihilistic crimes is inspiring.
When I see another child killed or maimed, I do she'd tears for the parents of the dead child but anger for the killer and the one that mains.
But there is often such fury at the silence and soft stepping of politicians, and, of course, the Israelis, especially Satanyahu and his politician genocides, plus their use of scriptures that they change to suit their murdering agenda. Also for being a haven for paedophilia, which really tells us all we need to know about Israel.
I have to tamp down my anger when typing or, even I won't know what I meant.
"Israel, and its choir, take great pride in extolling and preaching its democratic ideals and opportunity to the rest of the world… no matter how plainly desperate its overreach and fraudulent its claim. Seldom does a day pass without a Zionist apologia for its crimes against humanity, its war crimes, its genocide … skillfully relying upon the cheap talisman that, as the only democracy in the Middle East, it is entitled to do whatever it must to protect its noble call for all its citizens. For the poor, for the oppressed, for the dissenter, for those of a different skin, faith or gender there is nothing unusual or unique about this, by now, timeless pretext. Israel is not alone in its shout to democratic equality that, historically, has meant little more to many than the tyranny of the majority."
https://griobhtha1.substack.com/p/star-of-david-land-of-myth
Don't forget they are the best haven for paedophiles in the whole wide world.
Epstein escaped to Israel until his team arranged the settlement with our corrupt government. There was a slim chance that justice would be done. Who thinks he died in prison? Odd how that went down and a body was burned. This entire episode is repugnant example of endless corruption.
Drivel.
Democracy has never really existed except as an ideology. Policies and actions have always been decided by the sword and wealth.
It's the tyranny of the few over the gullible and ignorant majority. Take the republic of the US.
Every four years there's a huge performative circus show to choose between one aging old git and another.
But little changes fundamentally with whose butt farts in the White House.
But the population has been given the massive show, providing entertainment for the population. Then comes disappointment, then ramping up hope that next time the arseholes will do more for "me".
Not that I necessarily disagree with your witty sentiments, but, your comment sounds like an Eeyore. Tell me the ideology you prefer.
The role model is China.
Democratic at the local level to elect local representatives, then a process of rising through the ranks of the governing party based on competence and delivering results.
With multidecade policies to improve the lives of the Chinese, these policies are considered from the local, regional and national aspects before being signed off. They are also constantly reviewed and revised.
China is roughly 50% state and 50% private capitalism. This allows the dynamics of competition in the private sector, but retains essential assets such as infrastructure to be managed by the government.
Through this there is an underlying stable base on which people can prosper and grow.
No liberal democracy has this stability, neoliberalism sells off state assets to put $$$ in the hands of private capitalists, and there is no guarantee of stability.
Look at Trump.
Nobody will invest in the US now. One dictator can turn on a dime, there's no consistency nor long term government strategy.
Just look at all the liberal democracies. They have been around for less than one hundred years, all are failing to deliver prosperity and stability.
Europe decided to create an unelected administration, further removing democracy from the people.
A stable socialist government is the only way to go into the future. With AI and aging populations we need socialism more than ever to redistribute the profits of capitalism to the elderly, poor, schooling and healthcare.
The US is an example of where neiliberal democracies are heading. A few wealthy people and a load of poor indebted humans struggling to get by, infrastructure crumbling because there's no profit in it, and financialisation of everything, which effectively removes democracy from the people and puts it in the hands of the wealthy.
Exactly Richard Parker. Something of which I have studied and observed and been acutely aware of for a while. China is the best role model we have. Humanity is at a juncture where we can truely say it is socialism or death.
Incidentally August 13th was the 99th anniversary of Fidel Castro's birth. He famously said " .... they talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism?"
Well said Richard Parker!
Our politicians are starting to get “sad” too
The higher functioning sociopaths are capable of faking empathy when called to do so.
And people with actual empathy can see right through their fake empathy.
Unfortunately, in the best of psychopaths and sociopaths, absolutely not. We may only know after their deeds. Meanwhile, relying on our "pre-crime" intuition removes suspects' rights. That means their histories need to be known.
I’ve been mad as hell for years and enraged now.
I’m also sad and heartbroken
But so mad so very very angry
Not just at ‘Israelis’ but at every politician and every human that supports this Holocaust
I’m angry at the citizens that laugh at starvation and genocide
And I’m mad as fuck at the ones that are silent or say they have no opinion.
I have an infinite amount of rage for Israel.
Just watched a documentary on the West Bank, where these "settlers", essentially armed invaders, murderers and thieves, are systemically continuing the theft of Palestinian property.
They turn up on the doorstep of farms, give the occupants a few minutes to leave, then burn and destroy, chasing away the livestock.
Or the Israeli army builds a huge fence around an entire village, blocks the roads with huge iron gates, sets up surveillance cameras and essentially turns the whole village into a prison camp.
The US is funding this, the US is the source of many of these dual nationality armed criminals, the US government is utterly complicit.
I have enough rage for them all.
Naturally the fucking apologists crawl of the cesspit. Two arguments that really put fire to the rage.
"If October 7 hadn't happened, none of this would have happened".
"We have a two thousand year right to this land".
"God gave us this land".
Fuck'em.