Mr. Grusch’s does a terrible impression of a ‘whistle-blower ! Gravely hinting that he might be able to reveal MORE if only he didn’t have to speak in PUBLIC ( Oh No-o-o-o... not in public !! ;). .
C’mon , that’s the entire point of ACUAL whistle-blowing... to inform the PUBLIC.
Grusch has been hired to serially tease the public , not inform them about anything. Ditto for his doppel-ganger predecessor, the elusive Elizondo character.
Incorrect. Grusch testified for 11 hours under oath to the Inspector General. He is discussed topics classified under the NSA that legally can't be discussed in public without going to jail. You either work for the C.I.A. or you are just acting like an unpaid intern parroting their false narrative talking points. You are factually incorrect.
He is attempting to inform the public using the new legal whistleblower protections via congress, without violating his NDA, proceeding cautiously to avoid becoming another Assange. (Or another James Forrestal, the first murdered UFO whistleblower.)
I don't understand how the empire needs a UFO narrative to justify anything - they just do whatever they want anyway. Plus, if these craft are real and behaving as reported, we have zero chance of defending ourselves against them, no matter how much money is spent.
It cracks me up how some people (not readers of Caitlin obv) seem to think it would be super scandalous if we discover our govts have been lying to us about UFOs. Cos, like, they never lie about anything else?
Four reasons: it's an alibi for weapon system testing, a heroic celebration of the value of orderly international rapine, a challenge-response code by which connected elites can identify themselves as currently in good standing, and a mess of garbage for the less connected or submissive to wipe up.
Once all our cities are burning down and gas is only affordable by millionaires to fill their jets and yachts, then maybe we will have congressional hearings about how lizard people may have (or may not have?) replaced elites in positions of power throughout the world. So this UFO hearing is just a feeler program to soften us up for the distraction of the Lizard people hearing coming in 2030. The main thrust of the Lizard people hearing will of course be mandatory DNA testing and ID/locator chip implants for all citizens, to verify that you are not a lizard person.
(Joking of course, but it makes me very depressed on the absurd level of insanity we seem to be able to exist in. UFO's are BS.)
The crazy thing is the 2030 lizard people hearing doesn't even seem that far fetched! So much absolute nonsense has come out of the mouths of politicians and scientists and others in positions of power and influence and most people aren't batting an eyelid. Are we being primed to believe anything?
Never waste a good headline to instill fear and foment public support of greater control by the authorities.
I will discuss this further in my own column, but here are a couple things I know:
1) The physical spacecraft and organics collected were buried and the event occurred hundreds if not thousands of years ago. No extraterrestrial with any common sense whatsoever would dally anywhere near Earth where humans can't even get along with each other, much less with aliens. There are extraterrestrials within our Galaxy, but they aren't coming anywhere near here unless they tripped backwards and landed in this pile of shit.
2) The current phenomena being observed in space and otherwise that appear to defy physics are not extraterrestrials, but interdimensional activities that may or may not even be aware that we are seeing them. We don't understand who and what we are as "humans," we don't understand what our particular dimension actually is or the mechanics of it as such, and we don't understand how our Consciousness creates the "matter" that we then perceive as solid objects. We are playing in a sandbox that is akin to a newborn auditing a college level class at university.
Now the reminder, just because something is being exploited and lied about doesn't mean it is not real.
Is our government exploiting what is real? Absolutely. Partly out of authoritarian control, partly because they literally don't know what else to do.
Is it real or is it exploitative? Can both be true? You can count on it.
Interestingly enough, the interdimensional activities are completely beyond our ability to control. Why? Because they are interdimensional. They are NOT of this dimension, and therefore are not subject to our physics which also means that are not subject to any type of "weapon." They can literally come and go as they please., and again without understanding the nature of our dimension, these incursions that we witness often are not even aware of their appearance here. "They" used for identification only, as these phenomena do not conform to our notions of identity as individuals.
So planning on "defense" of these incursions is a fool's errand. There is nothing to defend against, and anything we came up with would be completely useless against something that we are perceiving in our dimension, but is not OF our dimension.
Until we have a better understanding of ourselves and our dimension, we will continue to misconstrue these phenomena, and our government will continue to exploit them for their own purposes.
It's just a guess, but "people" will start to take more notice once they've worked out the angle on this - as in, whosa gonna take the hit, and who'se gonna 'take offence'.
Right now, it's not at all clear if this is "Left", or "Right" aimed.
So no-one knows whether to boo or cheer mindlessly. It's very vexing. So folk are generally ignoring it.
Once it's been safely labelled 'Left', or 'Right', the public will henceforth KNOW whether to repost it onwards (Never actually critically watching THEMSELVES), or to laugh correctly mockingly at benighted fools who imbibe such silliness (Never actually critically watching THEMSELVES).
As to the UFOs, not only would we have to believe the 'Alien captures' are true, BUT, much harder to achieve, that the very institution that has hidden these events, and even alien visitors into medical/torture experiments (As the Anglo-American establishments tend to do, they really appreciated Mengele and copied his techniques), that placed alien technologies into their for-profit private war machine with the purpose of dominating the ENTIRE EARTH, aka "The American Imperialist Regime", "DC", or "Those US Nazis", that THESE FOLK, unsuitable in literally every way possible, should be entrusted in building or controlling such a militarised Earth Space Defence System.
Obviously, it's aimed downward. They're trying to enforce capitalist alignment in the technological infrastructure of society, and enforce the sanctity of payment and poverty. Gravity weapons make a lot of good grist for capitalist mystics and other delusionals to claim that gods are real and punish impiety (the only real cultural imperative of the resistance IMO).
Everything Grusch has testified to has already been stated by many whistleblowers going back to the 1940s. Since the vast majority of people alive today were not alive before the 1940s, most people believe that the subject of UFOs has always been a fringe kook fantasy of the tin foil hat crowd. Not so. Before the Roswell event of 1947, UFO sightings, including mass sightings over cities and military bases was reported in newspapers as normal news. Go to any library which has microfiche of newspapers back then and you'll see it firsthand. After the Roswell crash, the air force division of the army (and later the Air Force along with the CIA and certain aerospace corporations) transformed the subject into the ridiculed fringe world by using censorship, oaths of silence, bribery, disciplining of whistleblowers, gag-orders, paid jounalists, targeted press releases, and occasional "suicidings." Over the decades, many ethical, dogged researchers have compiled so many witness testimonies that the truth is hiding in plain sight, but you have to read the books to understand the subject. An excellent source on the Roswell crash is "Witness to Roswell" by Carey and Schmitt. An excellent chronological compilation of UFO events going back to the 1940s is “UFOs and the National Security State”, volumes 1 and 2 by Richard Dolan. Up until recently, the major players who controlled the narrative had their incentives aligned; keep the subject a closely controlled secret, reverse engineer the craft and as much of their tech as possible, maintain military superiority and profit handsomely along the way. As Caitlin points out, it seems a little suspicious that suddenly, the mainstream media is again portraying the subject as legitimate, like they used to before 1947. What changed? I agree with Caitlin, that at least one factor which has changed is the military space race. Based on my fifty years of studying this subject, I believe that all or almost all of the retrieved materials are in the hands of tightly compartmentalized small groups of individuals with very high security clearances within the military, intelligence agencies and aerospace companies. The vast majority of individuals who work in these enormous organizations do not have the security clearances to see this material and do not know it exists. The materials DO exist, but keeping it a secret has been a priority for the major players until recently. Now, if the hoi polloi and congress would believe that the subject is real, there could potentially be a flood of funding in the trillions to the military industrial complex to secure the USA against threats from space. So today, many of the narrative manipulators have a profit incentive to change the narrative from ridicule to acceptance, but acceptance with a fear spin. I do believe that ethical conscientious individuals who have wanted to get the truth out for decades have had some influence as well (Read “Flying Saucers are Real” by Donald Keyhoe), but the really powerful forces are usually revealed by “follow the money.” One other rich, powerful force which is new, and I believe is exerting an influence behind the scenes are the giant tech companies involved in artificial intelligence. I think it's likely that some of their top people have access to military, coporate and intelliegence agency insiders that have revealed the truth about extraterrestrial tech to them, and some of these tech titans would like to wrestle control of this technology away from the stodgy old guard.
This disclosure that began with Leslie Kean's NYT piece is legitimate. Don't cast suspicion on the handful of allies who have accomplished this monumental task. The Pentagon are being dragged every step and they are NOT happy about any of this being discussed in congress, as evidenced by recent statements from both AARO and NASA. Of course the mainstream angle first needs to be "we have to keep our pilots safe, they are in our test ranges", because there is no valid argument against this. Focusing on trusted ex-military whistleblower testimony has been the best way forward for the past 20 years, and we now are just barely seeing some progress. Grusch testified for 11 hours with the Inspector General. Congress already has his and others' data regarding who, where, and how this has been hidden for 80 years.
Yeah, yeah, and those news reports of experimental weapons testing were a Problem, so a myth had to be created for gullible, submissive Americans to gobble up.
Yeah the timing is suspicious. Most likely the MIC is exploiting UAP history because it is useful for them to weaponize space. But I also have a hard time believing it's all some elaborate grand conspiracy they've been working on for years (decades?). It seems more like an exploitation of whatever has been written about, or researched up to now, to further militarize the fuck out of every aspect of society. Pretty sick - the US annual war budget is now at about 1 trillion a year.
I'd be interested to see solid, irrefutable, concrete UAP evidence. Other than inconclusive incidents - such as the well documented USS Nimitz carrier sightings - which remain mysterious (to me). Or have a UAP land on the White House lawn. But until then, I treat the whole thing as puzzling - and I think keeping an open-mind is healthy. Or as Carl Jung once addressed the SPR in England, "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud."
Well, we've found a point of disagreement. Science is much more than retconning religion. It is about explaining natural phenomena in a predictable and repeatable way. There is a faith to science - and that faith is that the structures we discover don't start randomly changing, and that there actually *is* an underlying order that can be explained. Is that faith misplaced? Who can say. There is so much yet unexplained, so many difficult questions we may never have the tools to answer, and even then, there are fundamental unanswerables even given the greatest tools we could imagine. Why is there something instead of nothing? Why these particular laws of nature instead of other laws? That is where religion and philosophy come in. I think it is unfair to call Sagan a mythologist and by extension disinformationist.
Science, yes, but what about the Big Bang is repeatable?
There is a spiritual, prescriptive dimension to cosmology that propels it out of the world of what is seen or measurable, and into the unseen world of mythology, because origin narratives always implicate some suspension of the rules. And cosmologies always propose human purpose, as a consequence at least. Doesn't it make sense that a capitalist natural cosmology would recapitulate the original act of dispossession that (predictably, repeatably) begins capitalism? Or that the unfinished narrative it proposes would press for ever further expansion, alienation from Earth, and dominion of the entire universe?
I am sure that Communist origin theorists would have come up with a different story, explaining the cosmic microwave background and subatomic structure with reference to self-organization and dialectics rather than an act of inflation and a desire to press outward. I have no doubt they would have come up with a better grand mission, perhaps to enjoy riches and comfort at home.
To be more specific, it's not repeatable under experimental conditions. Cosmic initiation is logically unobservable due to cause and effect. If we were to start watching now, a reinitiation erases the material history in which observation began, destroying the half of our record that we're most interested in.
a guy named greer has been talking bout this for a long time -- recently did a big convention and press conf -- his 'deep state' info sources he says are worried mostly about what you're describing and it's why he's pushing harder now that ever to expose this stuff in hopes a light being shone with stave off the rush to militarize space -- he claims that they claim a coming false flag may be in the works -- his hopeful angle though is that the suppressed tech's capability to transform our energy models holds great promise -- oh that were it so.
There's a John Michael Greer who has written a book (and a documentary) on UFOs, observing that the intensity of the UFO drama waxes and wanes according to the weapons industry's need to obscure experiments and testing. But he's no techno-cornucopian, at all.
I know a bit of his work - he's very intersting. No, I'm referring to Steven Greer and much of what he talks about focuses on what's referred to as zero-point energy - a method of manipulating time-space to generate energy - obviously if there are aliens that came to visit from space they didn't do it with fossil fuels...it makes a lot of sense and it's the aspect of his work that captured a good friend's attention and he shared it with me. The guy is an aerospace engineer and perhaps the smartest person I know. So, I give the possibility a good deal of credibility.
just more government BS. Follow the money trail. Always follow the money trail! If there are other world beings their technology surpassed our's long ago. So, they could of trashed us long ago. Interested in our technology? Really? Why? Figuratively speaking we are still using the abacus. We will continue with the stupidity until the military industrial complex is shut down.
The Final Frontier! America can get back to its genocidal settler colonial roots of continuous expansion. We have to face it, since the frontier closed America has really lost its way.
Dude, outside of some smallish detours into evidence and logic driven scientific research? "Walking blindly forward according to its capricious delusions" describes nearly the whole of human "progress".
It's what we DO. And the results speak for themselves...
"Progress" is a myth, and "we" refers only to people infected by the Greek religion. Other peoples don't necessarily care about vicariously experiencing their immortality by reproducing their personal will in younger humans. There are far more important values than the name fetishism that attends Western humanity.
Seems like a test to root out the dumbest of whistleblowers. Some officer throws out a juicy UAP nugget at random around their suspect, then they see if that person is crazy enough to believe it and stupid enough to leak it. If someone is willing to blow the lid on aliens and spaceships over a few whispers of a secret program, then they sure as hell can’t be trusted with actual secret program information like planned “regime” changes, psyops on the American public, pipeline bombings, etc.
Also, there are literally over a million government employees. Government employees are, unfortunately, a cross section of US society. US society includes a lot of people who believe in things like UFO's, astrology, ghosts, dowsing, psychics, auras, etc. Assemble a room of 20 Americans and probably at least a third of that room believes in aliens. As a result, in any government agency, you're going to have not a few total kooks hanging around the woodwork.
"Asked by Ogles if UFOs could be 'probing our capabilities,' all three again said yes. Asked if UFOs could be 'testing for vulnerabilities' in US military capabilities, all three again said yes. Asked if UFOs pose an existential threat to the national security of the United States, all three said they potentially do. Asked if there was any indication that UFOs are interested in US nuclear technology, all three said yes.
Ogles concluded his questioning by saying, 'There clearly is a threat to the national security of the United States of America. As members of Congress, we have a responsibility to maintain oversight and be aware of these activities so that, if appropriate, we take action.'"
I find the unspoken assumption that if space aliens are in fact cruising the stratosphere, they must be intent on conquest to be fascinating.
Projection, much? I mean, where is it written that a Little Green Man can only have the same motivations or even the same sort of carbon- and DNA- based life as a militarist? Would we even recognize them as "alive" by the standards of life on earth?
These shitheads in the congress and military are saying they need to prepare against invasion or attack or some such threat. And the imbecilic populace readily swallows it.
At this point whoever is still surprised at this shit show called "democracy" needs to check themselves into an asylum.
Actually, no need. The whole world is one already.
Since the 1940s, UFOs have been seen wherever we have stored nuclear material, had missile silos or tests, and detonated nuclear bombs. they are not "interested in our technology" as if they will gain from it. They are interested in why we're destroying the Earth's biosphere, which they seeded in the first place. They have always been here, and they have a detached dominion over this planet. They don't care about human individuals, only human evolution at large, hence their reproductive meddling during abductions, which have happened to tons of thousands of people. The 'little grey's most commonly seen are said to be semi-biological clones, like worker drones. There is more to learn on this topic, through the reading of actual books and declassified documents, rather than kneejerk reaction to a weekly opinion piece.
Considering that none of the individuals in question purports to have talked with or communicated with a space alien would suggest that they could only speculate.
To elaborate on what I've commented here before: This is planning ahead. MIC-IMATT has to continually increase dividends / capital returns, and to return them faster than any other market segment or they are actually losing money. Golden Rule.
So, as Iraq/Afghanistan wind down, Ukraine has to be a bigger money sink, then there is going to be the cold/hot wars with China and Russia, and once that's tapped to the max, each member of Bricks will be added. Eventually the USA will have to spend money to potentially defeat every nation on earth, and what's left to justify getting that sweet government money in every growing amounts? Look to the sky, day or night. One day the the Pentagon is going to put out a tender for a Sun extinguishing weapon. Doesn't have to work as a weapon, just as a grift.
We're probably going to collapse into hyper inflation. Maybe once everything is unaffordable even for middle class PMC folks - then and only then might we get a chance for organization and a rediscovery of class warfare.
Competition is for losers and the same for epic drama.
The left-Puritan PMC exist to hold capital and labor together whether they like it or not. "Revolutionary Marxism" proposes the PMC as a ruling class. This epic drama narrative of epistemic purity and organization bringing us to triumph has always been mythical bullshit in every form it has ever appeared, and even now has lost much of its purchase on actually existing material conditions.
Given what we've experienced of these useless individualist Karens, perhaps the mutual ruin of the classes offers the better future now.
Are you claiming that heroism is the only thing standing between us and nihilism? If so, that would be a 100% predictable heroic take and can be written off for that reason alone.
No, the sun itself is a weapon system sub component if you are of this mind set.
Huge orbital space LASER tubes pumped by monochromaticaly filtered sunlight, aimed by mirrors???
Just toss an asteroid into the sun, timed such that the resulting radiation burst sterilizes the side of planet facing sun at that time?! Take out all of Eurasian/African populations (plus most of Australia & Oceania, sorry Aussies!) with ONE SHOT, leaves the real estate non radioactive after the short term neutron activated isotopes decay...
If there are other beings visiting Earth, they are so far beyond us they are not a threat. If they were a threat we would all be dead. I'm with Caitlin on this, this is about Capital harvesting the last bits.
I just wish these super advanced beings, whoever they are - would whisk me away from here - from the sociopathic billionaires and their never ending wars.
Mr. Grusch’s does a terrible impression of a ‘whistle-blower ! Gravely hinting that he might be able to reveal MORE if only he didn’t have to speak in PUBLIC ( Oh No-o-o-o... not in public !! ;). .
C’mon , that’s the entire point of ACUAL whistle-blowing... to inform the PUBLIC.
Grusch has been hired to serially tease the public , not inform them about anything. Ditto for his doppel-ganger predecessor, the elusive Elizondo character.
-JJ ( Detroit )
Incorrect. Grusch testified for 11 hours under oath to the Inspector General. He is discussed topics classified under the NSA that legally can't be discussed in public without going to jail. You either work for the C.I.A. or you are just acting like an unpaid intern parroting their false narrative talking points. You are factually incorrect.
Of course… like any ‘witness’, bystander, observer, random participant , or even a whistleblower , Grusch did testify at a public hearing.
However, his previous claim to be a whistleblower has not been substantiated by his subsequent insistence on self-limiting his public testimony !
Perhaps he doesn’t know that whistleblowers deliberately decide to contravene legal limitations on their speech in order to inform the public (?)
Or maybe he thought whistleblowing was a synonym for answering questions.
He is attempting to inform the public using the new legal whistleblower protections via congress, without violating his NDA, proceeding cautiously to avoid becoming another Assange. (Or another James Forrestal, the first murdered UFO whistleblower.)
It’s a psyop. Another excuse to take power. I hope I’m wrong, but the chances are slim to none.
"I'm Praying to the Aliens" Our theme for today. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpyjlVO6gRI
I don't understand how the empire needs a UFO narrative to justify anything - they just do whatever they want anyway. Plus, if these craft are real and behaving as reported, we have zero chance of defending ourselves against them, no matter how much money is spent.
It cracks me up how some people (not readers of Caitlin obv) seem to think it would be super scandalous if we discover our govts have been lying to us about UFOs. Cos, like, they never lie about anything else?
No they don't need a narrative to justify anything but they do inform us in other ways as to what they're up to so we must stay alert.
Four reasons: it's an alibi for weapon system testing, a heroic celebration of the value of orderly international rapine, a challenge-response code by which connected elites can identify themselves as currently in good standing, and a mess of garbage for the less connected or submissive to wipe up.
It not to justify. It’s to distract
Never mind that man behind the curtain.....
Once all our cities are burning down and gas is only affordable by millionaires to fill their jets and yachts, then maybe we will have congressional hearings about how lizard people may have (or may not have?) replaced elites in positions of power throughout the world. So this UFO hearing is just a feeler program to soften us up for the distraction of the Lizard people hearing coming in 2030. The main thrust of the Lizard people hearing will of course be mandatory DNA testing and ID/locator chip implants for all citizens, to verify that you are not a lizard person.
(Joking of course, but it makes me very depressed on the absurd level of insanity we seem to be able to exist in. UFO's are BS.)
The crazy thing is the 2030 lizard people hearing doesn't even seem that far fetched! So much absolute nonsense has come out of the mouths of politicians and scientists and others in positions of power and influence and most people aren't batting an eyelid. Are we being primed to believe anything?
"Lizard people"? "Aren't batting an eyelid"?
Well, they have clear ones, I understand.
Zuckerberg needs to get a better disguise.
If you can't operate an apostrophe, you can't be trusted with assessment of reality.
Never waste a good headline to instill fear and foment public support of greater control by the authorities.
I will discuss this further in my own column, but here are a couple things I know:
1) The physical spacecraft and organics collected were buried and the event occurred hundreds if not thousands of years ago. No extraterrestrial with any common sense whatsoever would dally anywhere near Earth where humans can't even get along with each other, much less with aliens. There are extraterrestrials within our Galaxy, but they aren't coming anywhere near here unless they tripped backwards and landed in this pile of shit.
2) The current phenomena being observed in space and otherwise that appear to defy physics are not extraterrestrials, but interdimensional activities that may or may not even be aware that we are seeing them. We don't understand who and what we are as "humans," we don't understand what our particular dimension actually is or the mechanics of it as such, and we don't understand how our Consciousness creates the "matter" that we then perceive as solid objects. We are playing in a sandbox that is akin to a newborn auditing a college level class at university.
Now the reminder, just because something is being exploited and lied about doesn't mean it is not real.
Is our government exploiting what is real? Absolutely. Partly out of authoritarian control, partly because they literally don't know what else to do.
Is it real or is it exploitative? Can both be true? You can count on it.
Interestingly enough, the interdimensional activities are completely beyond our ability to control. Why? Because they are interdimensional. They are NOT of this dimension, and therefore are not subject to our physics which also means that are not subject to any type of "weapon." They can literally come and go as they please., and again without understanding the nature of our dimension, these incursions that we witness often are not even aware of their appearance here. "They" used for identification only, as these phenomena do not conform to our notions of identity as individuals.
So planning on "defense" of these incursions is a fool's errand. There is nothing to defend against, and anything we came up with would be completely useless against something that we are perceiving in our dimension, but is not OF our dimension.
Until we have a better understanding of ourselves and our dimension, we will continue to misconstrue these phenomena, and our government will continue to exploit them for their own purposes.
It's just a guess, but "people" will start to take more notice once they've worked out the angle on this - as in, whosa gonna take the hit, and who'se gonna 'take offence'.
Right now, it's not at all clear if this is "Left", or "Right" aimed.
So no-one knows whether to boo or cheer mindlessly. It's very vexing. So folk are generally ignoring it.
Once it's been safely labelled 'Left', or 'Right', the public will henceforth KNOW whether to repost it onwards (Never actually critically watching THEMSELVES), or to laugh correctly mockingly at benighted fools who imbibe such silliness (Never actually critically watching THEMSELVES).
As to the UFOs, not only would we have to believe the 'Alien captures' are true, BUT, much harder to achieve, that the very institution that has hidden these events, and even alien visitors into medical/torture experiments (As the Anglo-American establishments tend to do, they really appreciated Mengele and copied his techniques), that placed alien technologies into their for-profit private war machine with the purpose of dominating the ENTIRE EARTH, aka "The American Imperialist Regime", "DC", or "Those US Nazis", that THESE FOLK, unsuitable in literally every way possible, should be entrusted in building or controlling such a militarised Earth Space Defence System.
Obviously, it's aimed downward. They're trying to enforce capitalist alignment in the technological infrastructure of society, and enforce the sanctity of payment and poverty. Gravity weapons make a lot of good grist for capitalist mystics and other delusionals to claim that gods are real and punish impiety (the only real cultural imperative of the resistance IMO).
Everything Grusch has testified to has already been stated by many whistleblowers going back to the 1940s. Since the vast majority of people alive today were not alive before the 1940s, most people believe that the subject of UFOs has always been a fringe kook fantasy of the tin foil hat crowd. Not so. Before the Roswell event of 1947, UFO sightings, including mass sightings over cities and military bases was reported in newspapers as normal news. Go to any library which has microfiche of newspapers back then and you'll see it firsthand. After the Roswell crash, the air force division of the army (and later the Air Force along with the CIA and certain aerospace corporations) transformed the subject into the ridiculed fringe world by using censorship, oaths of silence, bribery, disciplining of whistleblowers, gag-orders, paid jounalists, targeted press releases, and occasional "suicidings." Over the decades, many ethical, dogged researchers have compiled so many witness testimonies that the truth is hiding in plain sight, but you have to read the books to understand the subject. An excellent source on the Roswell crash is "Witness to Roswell" by Carey and Schmitt. An excellent chronological compilation of UFO events going back to the 1940s is “UFOs and the National Security State”, volumes 1 and 2 by Richard Dolan. Up until recently, the major players who controlled the narrative had their incentives aligned; keep the subject a closely controlled secret, reverse engineer the craft and as much of their tech as possible, maintain military superiority and profit handsomely along the way. As Caitlin points out, it seems a little suspicious that suddenly, the mainstream media is again portraying the subject as legitimate, like they used to before 1947. What changed? I agree with Caitlin, that at least one factor which has changed is the military space race. Based on my fifty years of studying this subject, I believe that all or almost all of the retrieved materials are in the hands of tightly compartmentalized small groups of individuals with very high security clearances within the military, intelligence agencies and aerospace companies. The vast majority of individuals who work in these enormous organizations do not have the security clearances to see this material and do not know it exists. The materials DO exist, but keeping it a secret has been a priority for the major players until recently. Now, if the hoi polloi and congress would believe that the subject is real, there could potentially be a flood of funding in the trillions to the military industrial complex to secure the USA against threats from space. So today, many of the narrative manipulators have a profit incentive to change the narrative from ridicule to acceptance, but acceptance with a fear spin. I do believe that ethical conscientious individuals who have wanted to get the truth out for decades have had some influence as well (Read “Flying Saucers are Real” by Donald Keyhoe), but the really powerful forces are usually revealed by “follow the money.” One other rich, powerful force which is new, and I believe is exerting an influence behind the scenes are the giant tech companies involved in artificial intelligence. I think it's likely that some of their top people have access to military, coporate and intelliegence agency insiders that have revealed the truth about extraterrestrial tech to them, and some of these tech titans would like to wrestle control of this technology away from the stodgy old guard.
This disclosure that began with Leslie Kean's NYT piece is legitimate. Don't cast suspicion on the handful of allies who have accomplished this monumental task. The Pentagon are being dragged every step and they are NOT happy about any of this being discussed in congress, as evidenced by recent statements from both AARO and NASA. Of course the mainstream angle first needs to be "we have to keep our pilots safe, they are in our test ranges", because there is no valid argument against this. Focusing on trusted ex-military whistleblower testimony has been the best way forward for the past 20 years, and we now are just barely seeing some progress. Grusch testified for 11 hours with the Inspector General. Congress already has his and others' data regarding who, where, and how this has been hidden for 80 years.
Yeah, yeah, and those news reports of experimental weapons testing were a Problem, so a myth had to be created for gullible, submissive Americans to gobble up.
Yeah the timing is suspicious. Most likely the MIC is exploiting UAP history because it is useful for them to weaponize space. But I also have a hard time believing it's all some elaborate grand conspiracy they've been working on for years (decades?). It seems more like an exploitation of whatever has been written about, or researched up to now, to further militarize the fuck out of every aspect of society. Pretty sick - the US annual war budget is now at about 1 trillion a year.
I'd be interested to see solid, irrefutable, concrete UAP evidence. Other than inconclusive incidents - such as the well documented USS Nimitz carrier sightings - which remain mysterious (to me). Or have a UAP land on the White House lawn. But until then, I treat the whole thing as puzzling - and I think keeping an open-mind is healthy. Or as Carl Jung once addressed the SPR in England, "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud."
Another Carl, Carl Sagan, had some good stuff to say about the UFO phenomenon.
Wernher von Braun said, in an interview, that at a late stage, the US government would popularize the threat of aliens to justify military programs and expenditures. Write up and video here. https://exonews.org/wilileaks-document-suggest-that-wernher-von-braun-tried-to-warn-us-about-a-fake-alien-invasion/
Scientists Reacting to the UAP Hearing in Congress with Dr. Jacob Haqq-Misra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e97pkRbjyRs
Here is a video of the UFO congressional hearings yesterday, for anyone with an open mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glw76YKuWCY and who may be curious.
Cosmology is the art of retconning religion, nothing more. Sagan, for all his blessings, was nonetheless a mythologist, and myths are disinformation.
Well, we've found a point of disagreement. Science is much more than retconning religion. It is about explaining natural phenomena in a predictable and repeatable way. There is a faith to science - and that faith is that the structures we discover don't start randomly changing, and that there actually *is* an underlying order that can be explained. Is that faith misplaced? Who can say. There is so much yet unexplained, so many difficult questions we may never have the tools to answer, and even then, there are fundamental unanswerables even given the greatest tools we could imagine. Why is there something instead of nothing? Why these particular laws of nature instead of other laws? That is where religion and philosophy come in. I think it is unfair to call Sagan a mythologist and by extension disinformationist.
Science, yes, but what about the Big Bang is repeatable?
There is a spiritual, prescriptive dimension to cosmology that propels it out of the world of what is seen or measurable, and into the unseen world of mythology, because origin narratives always implicate some suspension of the rules. And cosmologies always propose human purpose, as a consequence at least. Doesn't it make sense that a capitalist natural cosmology would recapitulate the original act of dispossession that (predictably, repeatably) begins capitalism? Or that the unfinished narrative it proposes would press for ever further expansion, alienation from Earth, and dominion of the entire universe?
I am sure that Communist origin theorists would have come up with a different story, explaining the cosmic microwave background and subatomic structure with reference to self-organization and dialectics rather than an act of inflation and a desire to press outward. I have no doubt they would have come up with a better grand mission, perhaps to enjoy riches and comfort at home.
Um, the big bang IS repeatable, it's just one part of the whole bloody cycle.
Based cyclic universe believer!
To be more specific, it's not repeatable under experimental conditions. Cosmic initiation is logically unobservable due to cause and effect. If we were to start watching now, a reinitiation erases the material history in which observation began, destroying the half of our record that we're most interested in.
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a guy named greer has been talking bout this for a long time -- recently did a big convention and press conf -- his 'deep state' info sources he says are worried mostly about what you're describing and it's why he's pushing harder now that ever to expose this stuff in hopes a light being shone with stave off the rush to militarize space -- he claims that they claim a coming false flag may be in the works -- his hopeful angle though is that the suppressed tech's capability to transform our energy models holds great promise -- oh that were it so.
There's a John Michael Greer who has written a book (and a documentary) on UFOs, observing that the intensity of the UFO drama waxes and wanes according to the weapons industry's need to obscure experiments and testing. But he's no techno-cornucopian, at all.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51687417-the-ufo-chronicles
I know a bit of his work - he's very intersting. No, I'm referring to Steven Greer and much of what he talks about focuses on what's referred to as zero-point energy - a method of manipulating time-space to generate energy - obviously if there are aliens that came to visit from space they didn't do it with fossil fuels...it makes a lot of sense and it's the aspect of his work that captured a good friend's attention and he shared it with me. The guy is an aerospace engineer and perhaps the smartest person I know. So, I give the possibility a good deal of credibility.
just more government BS. Follow the money trail. Always follow the money trail! If there are other world beings their technology surpassed our's long ago. So, they could of trashed us long ago. Interested in our technology? Really? Why? Figuratively speaking we are still using the abacus. We will continue with the stupidity until the military industrial complex is shut down.
Project for a New American GALAXY. :)
The Final Frontier! America can get back to its genocidal settler colonial roots of continuous expansion. We have to face it, since the frontier closed America has really lost its way.
Walking blindly forward according to its capricious delusions is no "way" at all.
Dude, outside of some smallish detours into evidence and logic driven scientific research? "Walking blindly forward according to its capricious delusions" describes nearly the whole of human "progress".
It's what we DO. And the results speak for themselves...
"Progress" is a myth, and "we" refers only to people infected by the Greek religion. Other peoples don't necessarily care about vicariously experiencing their immortality by reproducing their personal will in younger humans. There are far more important values than the name fetishism that attends Western humanity.
Damn, your software writer sucks.
Seems like a test to root out the dumbest of whistleblowers. Some officer throws out a juicy UAP nugget at random around their suspect, then they see if that person is crazy enough to believe it and stupid enough to leak it. If someone is willing to blow the lid on aliens and spaceships over a few whispers of a secret program, then they sure as hell can’t be trusted with actual secret program information like planned “regime” changes, psyops on the American public, pipeline bombings, etc.
Also, there are literally over a million government employees. Government employees are, unfortunately, a cross section of US society. US society includes a lot of people who believe in things like UFO's, astrology, ghosts, dowsing, psychics, auras, etc. Assemble a room of 20 Americans and probably at least a third of that room believes in aliens. As a result, in any government agency, you're going to have not a few total kooks hanging around the woodwork.
"Asked by Ogles if UFOs could be 'probing our capabilities,' all three again said yes. Asked if UFOs could be 'testing for vulnerabilities' in US military capabilities, all three again said yes. Asked if UFOs pose an existential threat to the national security of the United States, all three said they potentially do. Asked if there was any indication that UFOs are interested in US nuclear technology, all three said yes.
Ogles concluded his questioning by saying, 'There clearly is a threat to the national security of the United States of America. As members of Congress, we have a responsibility to maintain oversight and be aware of these activities so that, if appropriate, we take action.'"
I find the unspoken assumption that if space aliens are in fact cruising the stratosphere, they must be intent on conquest to be fascinating.
Projection, much? I mean, where is it written that a Little Green Man can only have the same motivations or even the same sort of carbon- and DNA- based life as a militarist? Would we even recognize them as "alive" by the standards of life on earth?
These shitheads in the congress and military are saying they need to prepare against invasion or attack or some such threat. And the imbecilic populace readily swallows it.
At this point whoever is still surprised at this shit show called "democracy" needs to check themselves into an asylum.
Actually, no need. The whole world is one already.
All the spooky sci-fi shit evaporates as soon as you remember that UAPs include Chinese weather balloons.
Since the 1940s, UFOs have been seen wherever we have stored nuclear material, had missile silos or tests, and detonated nuclear bombs. they are not "interested in our technology" as if they will gain from it. They are interested in why we're destroying the Earth's biosphere, which they seeded in the first place. They have always been here, and they have a detached dominion over this planet. They don't care about human individuals, only human evolution at large, hence their reproductive meddling during abductions, which have happened to tons of thousands of people. The 'little grey's most commonly seen are said to be semi-biological clones, like worker drones. There is more to learn on this topic, through the reading of actual books and declassified documents, rather than kneejerk reaction to a weekly opinion piece.
"Asked if UFOs pose an existential threat to the national security of the United States, all three said they potentially do."
Ka-CHING!
The fact that they all said "potentially" indicates to me that they consider hostile intent to be only one of several possibilities.
Considering that none of the individuals in question purports to have talked with or communicated with a space alien would suggest that they could only speculate.
To elaborate on what I've commented here before: This is planning ahead. MIC-IMATT has to continually increase dividends / capital returns, and to return them faster than any other market segment or they are actually losing money. Golden Rule.
So, as Iraq/Afghanistan wind down, Ukraine has to be a bigger money sink, then there is going to be the cold/hot wars with China and Russia, and once that's tapped to the max, each member of Bricks will be added. Eventually the USA will have to spend money to potentially defeat every nation on earth, and what's left to justify getting that sweet government money in every growing amounts? Look to the sky, day or night. One day the the Pentagon is going to put out a tender for a Sun extinguishing weapon. Doesn't have to work as a weapon, just as a grift.
We're probably going to collapse into hyper inflation. Maybe once everything is unaffordable even for middle class PMC folks - then and only then might we get a chance for organization and a rediscovery of class warfare.
Competition is for losers and the same for epic drama.
The left-Puritan PMC exist to hold capital and labor together whether they like it or not. "Revolutionary Marxism" proposes the PMC as a ruling class. This epic drama narrative of epistemic purity and organization bringing us to triumph has always been mythical bullshit in every form it has ever appeared, and even now has lost much of its purchase on actually existing material conditions.
Given what we've experienced of these useless individualist Karens, perhaps the mutual ruin of the classes offers the better future now.
My man! Why bother to dilute your nihilism with any kind of hopes for a better future? It's MUCH more intoxicating "straight up".
Are you claiming that heroism is the only thing standing between us and nihilism? If so, that would be a 100% predictable heroic take and can be written off for that reason alone.
Your reading comprehension matches your writing skills.
That was NOT a compliment.
No, the sun itself is a weapon system sub component if you are of this mind set.
Huge orbital space LASER tubes pumped by monochromaticaly filtered sunlight, aimed by mirrors???
Just toss an asteroid into the sun, timed such that the resulting radiation burst sterilizes the side of planet facing sun at that time?! Take out all of Eurasian/African populations (plus most of Australia & Oceania, sorry Aussies!) with ONE SHOT, leaves the real estate non radioactive after the short term neutron activated isotopes decay...
If there are other beings visiting Earth, they are so far beyond us they are not a threat. If they were a threat we would all be dead. I'm with Caitlin on this, this is about Capital harvesting the last bits.
Dirty Dozen to Mars by yours truly.
I just wish these super advanced beings, whoever they are - would whisk me away from here - from the sociopathic billionaires and their never ending wars.
It's just another grift center.