What's unfortunate is the oppressors stealing the language of the opressed it not new. It is also why we need to keep encouraging people to look closer at the people they listen to. What are their motives? Why would they say something like this? Who does this language benefit and harm?
empire did not prevent it. bangladesh is part of the bri. it was eying brics membership. the ousted prime minister claims she refused a us military base on some strategic important island. the nobel peace prize winner replacing her has full empire approval, afaik.
Is there enough evidence to support any of these theories? Unless one can make a rational case for such suggestions, I would say it is conjecture at this point in time. The event is unfolding live in front of our eyes. IMO, we don't have enough information (or the background necessary) to jump to such conclusions.
I prefer to wait and see how all this unfolds...though I am encouraged by the ability of students and the working class to fight back against power and dictatorial/entrenched authority and control.
"They’re able to pull off this scam because most people don’t lucidly understand the difference between fact and narrative."
Adding to this fact in a serious way is the media, one other player in the game. Well organised, well controlled by both government AND big money to achieve their objectives.
Caitlin once again confronts us with the clear and present danger. Elon Musk is setting the bar for a new kind of Oligarch, who are brazen and upfront with wielding their power to exploit the masses. Previously they worked behind the scenes and in shadow.
This oligarch says he make coupes and if people in those countries don't like it they can lump it. But he had to lump it when it came to Bolivia - remember Evo Morales... Musk wanted their lithium and formented a coup but Bolivians rallied round their president and defeated the coup plotters.
In Venezuela right now, a very American coup with Elon Musk's backing is taking place. They are even boasting about it.
While not losing our focus on the plight of the Palestinians - our main concern - we should be aware of the machinations of empire and its oligarchs. As all this are inextricably linked.
And well said Indu. Too many people (especially Silicon Valley Tech bros - I should know) fall for all the bullshit and antics of Elon Musk and his co-horts (Peter Thiel, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg, David Sachs, Andreesen Horowitz and most Big-Tech VCs, and too many others to name).
IMHO, some of the most evil places in the US are: Silicon Valley, Wall Street, Washington D.C.
Spot on! And although there are too many to name, I’d be remiss if I didn’t add Sam Altman to your list. The direction he seems to he heading should further spur us to action.
Agreed. Corporate slugs are now becoming increasingly open about the fact that they are the ones running the world, not the people sitting in political office. The latter serve them, and are most often people from their economic class to begin with. Why does anyone in the working class continue to believe that billionaires in Congress or the White House are going to look out for us instead of their own class?
When George Carlin pointed this out decades ago it was much harder to understand. Most then could laugh about it, but not take it seriously. Now it is perfectly obvious to anyone paying attention and most chose instead to pretend to believe the narrative. I suspect they do so because to admit what they know would require them to take actions that would impact their comfort zones.
And also, who do the Democrat supporters think was running the country during Biden's cognitive decline? Who do they think is running it now since the man with severe cognitive decline (that they can no longer lie to cover for) is still "in office" for a few months? And most importantly, who do they think will be running things regardless of who takes the Oval Office in January?
More than ever this partisan Democrats vs. Republicans mania among the working class resembles a fantasy football league game.
Agreed. I am, in fact, going to tackle the phenomenon of resistance to change even when we recognize that change is necessary in my next article for Medium and Substack. It was something Thomas Jefferson himself recognized and complained about in the Declaration of Independence.
You get, and share with precision, your world vision better than anyone, Caitlin. Thank you deeply.
Viva Palestine!--Hamas and ALL of Palestine! Aaron Bushnell and Dr. Ismail Haniyeh (and many others): Rest in Power and Resistance! Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite!
It is not enough to oppose those who prey on us, we must also make meaningful human contact the norm in our daily lives; reach across the divides, and start building web-works over them. Protest is what I do online, resistance is what I do when I am real to my neighbors. Just open up and look for ways, you'll find them.
We should all right NOW be building up informal barter networks. A trade system independent of their control. Tricky and Risky. But maybe we have all got too comfortable
Nah, I don't keep my guns in my "Den". Actually, I've never HAD a "Den". Maybe I should get one? If it were humidity controlled, a "Den" might make a nice arms locker...
In the US you have waged war on sovereign countries and have never had to deal with real war.
I have been in a civil war and believe me you will turn on your neighbours/friends/families.....even if it's just for survival!
Personally I still have PTSD Syndrome from what I saw as a child.
YOU people in the USA have absolutely NO idea what is coming.
When you have nothing to eat/you will scavenge the garbage bins/then comes the real nasty people with their guns who break into buildings looking for food. You can build your own little enclave/grow crops but when people are starving they do not care about you;
There's nothing like seeing blank or cynical eyes turn thoughtful. You're right about the social aspect - very important. I'm what you'd call out of practice, but I do have a reasonable strike-rate among the people I know. Just, don't anyone expect immediate results, we're still in TV Land for the most part.
Corollary. If they say Israel has a right to exist and to defend itself, they're for the genocide in Gaza. If they ask your positions on either question before any meaningful debate can begin, there will be no meaningful debate. If they preface their remarks by first calling out Hamas for war crimes on Oct 7th, they desire the elimination of every Palestinian on earth. Hope that helped.
Israel is not defending itself against Gaza. It is committing genocide in Gaza. Hamas' war crimes of Oct 7th fade to insignificance when compared to the crimes committed by Israel against Palestinians since even before 1948. Glad we could clear that up.
Message: You’re the one you’ve been waiting for. These folks are not here to save you. Do something. Anything other than putting your trust in politicians or tech magnates.
I think you miss the mark with the original quotes from Elon, Caitlin. A rare miss, calling the “rioters” “white supremicists” is exactly what the bad peeps who run things are doing — and I’m surprised you would fall for it.
Are not the rioters in Britain white supremacists? I thought that was their self-identification: Britain for the white people, not the non-white immigrants.
Those riots were contrived. I feel sorry for anyone who believed the alluring nonsense and got sucked in and could now face 10 years in jail. Those "rioters" we've been seeing them for decades. The cause changes,the individual bodies change but those are rent-a-mob,ugly,unemployable yobs who get a chance to throw stones and show the world the full range of their stupidity,this gives our prime Public Servant the excuse to bring in more control and surveillance laws
There certainly is. And the fact that you are a white anti-colonialist doesn’t make you a “white supremacist.” Nor does the fact that you happen to be white or black or brown when you are protesting the intrusion of a different culture into your living space. In short, you don’t get to label just anything white people do as being “supremacist” any more than you get to do it when other color people are involved.
‘Democrats.” (Okay, that was a cheap shot, but the target was so easy…in truth, I’ve never seen a situation where the term might be useful. Are there any? I guess if there were, I’d call them BS…)
A supremacist is one who believes that their kind are intrinsically superior to all others. Have you read Kipling's "The White Man's Burden?" When black African people start writing poems like that, as they shake off the colonialists whose purpose in their land is to seize and exploit their assets, and install puppet governments over them to streamline this process in return return for a suitable payout, then there will be a data point for considering the possibility that they are "black supremacists."
I’ve read enough Kipling to know there’s more of him being scathingly ironic than literally puerile. The most powerful line that ought to make that clear is:
“The silent sullen peoples
Shall weigh your Gods and you.”
There’s no doubt they will find him and his entire purpose severely wanting.
White supremacists? Lazy label encouraged by the ruling elite class and their media minions to describe those disenfranchised people crushed by poor employment, fractured family and community, robbed of their wealth such as it was by stealth, numbed by endless dumbed down media and low quality nutrition.....feel free to add to the list and ask yourself, how you would feel seeing migrants coming in and getting perceived "special" treatment.? I could never understand massmigration to damp overpopulated little England, I couldn't get out of the place fast enough myself
Nice try at trying to twist Caitlin's words into your own "Right-Wing" narrative. Won't work here. Try this on another substack where people are more gullible...
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Britain has been flooded with illegal immigrants just like the US. It’s not “white supremacy” to point this out. Their economy, social services, the NHS are all strained and there’s a lot of frustration just like there is here.
I guess you too seem to be falling for the "blame the immigrants" false narrative - scapegoating the failings of Capitalism, greed, power structures, elite control and failure of systems onto immigrants are we?
If by 'illegal immigrants' SW means asylum seekers- it's simply not true. The number has remained steady in recent years (though the route using small boats, rather than the back of lorries, has changed since Brexit), it is low compared to 2000 and is low compared to many other countries. The 'crisis' of 'illegal immigration' was deliberately created and we're seeing it play out.
No, the NHS and social services are strained because their right-wing government cut them over and over and over again, decade after decade, (while spending tons of money on the military, et al), in order to break them. Why, you say? So that they could privatize them. They have begun the process of doing that. The oligarchy foam over any public money being used to actually serve the public, instead of being transferred to cronies as lucrative contracts.
There are a lot of British Commonwealth countries whose populations are largely non-white, who (by right of being members of the Commonwealth) have been settling in Britain in the last half century. That is why 17% of Britain is now non-white. Undocumented immigrants? 1.7%. Not a flood. More of a trickle, really. But if the status quo screams and point all the time over those "lesser" people taking things that belong to the public (ahem, the white people), the public won't look up, and see who's really taking all their wealth, their future, their hope.
Reagan did the same with American and then Clinton dismantled welfare and offshored our jobs. Both thatcher and Clinton dismantled banking regulations setting the world up for economic collapse.
People should have rioted in both countries then. Hell clinton ran on dismantling welfare and people voted for him anyway.
Rioting doesn't get people anywhere (except prison, after being labeled "thugs" and "terrorists").
The only thing that sets back the oligarchy, so far as I know, is a class traitor, like FDR. Or complete national collapse, like the Austro-Hungarian, German, British, French and Turkish Empires after World War One.
FYI, FDR was a savior of Capitalism. He was forced into making the concessions he did due to the realities of the time and environment (depression) and the strength and resistance of the left.
Not unexpected. Good politicians do make concessions. But in the Wall Street Putsch, or the Business Plot, in 1933, the plutocrats did plan to coup him, class traitor that he was. If we had prosecuted that treason (Senator Prescott Bush et al), we would have been spared two Bush administrations.
The social services and NHS are strained because the politicians have been cutting funding to them since Thatcher. The economy is in the toilet because of Brexit. The immigrants are not to blame.
perhaps if UK was not playing games with the map again along with their 'allies' in NATO and Uncle Sam very likely few immigrants would be fleeing to places that advertise themselves as islands of Refuge..where 'real' democracy exists. People attempting to flee endless wars and military occupations in so many places would not be fleeing...along with climate crises in the SOUTH of the planet..they bought the Propaganda and trusted that they would find asylum..but its fake.
When discussing what is driving so many people to flee their homelands, please don’t leave out NATO. Putting a name to who’s responsible for that "endless war and occupation" matters.
Immigrants are not straining the NHS, they’re keeping it running. Without them there would be closures. Where would you get the staff? Here in Canada, our governments are shopping the world for immigrants to come and staff our healthcare system. Mind you, some of them are still trying to demonize them as well. Capitalists and fascists always need someone to punch down on.
I’ve spent my entire career as an RN and worked with many of the nurses recruited from the Philippines. They were all nice, friendly people who I personally enjoyed working with but they were poorly trained nurses. One didn’t know the classic signs of a heart attack and the patient died, two ignored an unconscious patient with a b/p of 220/130 and was only saved because the nurse coming on the next shift immediately called a code and saved him and one I worked with didn’t speak English well enough to read doctor’s orders or understand the patients. I find it hard to believe there aren’t a lot of talented, smart young men and women in Canada who want to be doctors or nurses.
I was able to get a degree because of the nurse shortage and Texas only charged $50/semester for tuition to help students attend university to become nurses. The foreign nurses I worked with were paid lots of perks and bonuses. This makes no sense to me.
The cause of these migrations is US-led/NATO predatory Capitalism and endless wars. The main industry in the US is weapons sales or gifts, in the case of Israel.
NAFTA, other trade deals, etc. have caused poverty in many places, including the sacrifice zones here in the US. Predatory corporations (with US government help) take without leaving anything except pollution and misery. Witness the Congo and many more places. Corporations extract! Capitalists steal, people pay.
Poverty in the US has been increasing for decades. The US is one global predatory entity. If these fake leaders can't persuade countries to participate, they'll just invade.
Look at their continuous attempts to subsume Venezuela. Oil!
It's completely necessary for the global working classes to unite and revolt. We can do it. I believe many of us will die, but we must try. ✌️
Who do you think will be sent into the front lines if the US goes to war?
One of the main reasons Ukraine is losing the so-called war is because they don't have enough 'cannon fodder' or as Scot Ritter said 'people to go into the meat grinder.'
How many times have we heard politicians talk about immigrants....it is one of the most talking points in elections.
Many US/UK people don't want to fight. As it is the US Military is finding it hard to recruit US citizens. SO tell me please who will be co-erced into fighting?
UK used and co-erced Indians into their wars in Europe putting them on the front lines!
The UK may be trying to emulate the US predatory heathcare system. We in the US have the most regressive system/s. We are terribly propagandized and robbed. Seattle here.
And now Angela Rayner who I used to like is dropping the law that says only British citizens who have paid in to our economy have first access to public housing. So your married son or daughter with a baby and a toddler has to live in your spare room while someone just off the boat from Africa or Shittistan gets shooed into a council house.
Do you believe that some races are intrinsically superior to other races, such that the other races should be subordinate to them, and surrender their lands, their goods, their very persons, to the service of the superior race?
"Supremacy" to the "other" people, reads as, "I do not respect you, you are a lesser form of life, and I'm coming for your stuff." This is not an attitude conducive to civil order and peaceful discourse.
And, no, I don't expect to find Black Supremacists in African countries, especially since most African countries are made up of dozens, if not hundreds, of various African tribes, which different cultures, languages, history.
He was always idolized by the libertarian futurist tech bro types. But yea hes the perfect example of liberals and libertarians warm to fascism when the going gets tough.
I don't know if everyone saw this: NYT recently did a "Warning" piece on Trump, listing his sins in office. But...
"Instead of listing the numerous policy choices that made both the United States and the world a worse place, the emphasis is placed much more on Trump’s worst personal excesses and the things that made him an aberration relative to other presidents. Put simply, the Times cares more about reminding people of palace intrigue bullshit that doesn’t matter at the expense of discussing things that affect millions of people.
"...crimes—including Trump’s expansion of drone strikes, his ordering of an illegal assassination against a top Iranian general, and his support for Saudi Arabia’s devastating bombing campaign against Yemen—do not appear in the Times’ history of his administration."
There is a list of everything they ignored in the article, below. Health, war, immigration, assassination, check it out - it's horrible.
How do even low intelligent people not see it? Do they really see the oppressed victims in these movies as analogous to Israelis or wealthy Brits protecting their stuff??! I enjoyed the remake of Dune. The oppressed people of the spice planet certainly reminded me of real life oppression where plutocrats steal natural resources. It’s like a sick joke considering who puts this out
Unfortunately yes, they do. Musk's movie list is incomplete. If you've seen a movie like 'Zulu' or 'Blackhawk Down", then yes, you see the colonizers as the victims and noble heroes.
You bring up an excellent point. We can go back to some earlier films that are far more explicit in painting the occupiers and colonialists as the heroic victims. There’s the one glorifying the plucky underdogs creating the new state of Israel, called “Exodus.” But probably my favourite of the colonial role-reversal genre is “The Four Feathers” from 1939.
They like to tell us in a mocking way exactly what they're at. It's funny. We are the mouse the cat plays with ie tortured before killing it. They called COVID -OMICRON- anagram of MORONIC. Says it all.
Just to be clear, I’m not questioning your point, but for the sake of accuracy, cats don’t “play” with mice in order to cause pain and anguish in the mice. I read a study that showed that cats don’t have the jaw strength to open a mouse until they reach a certain level of adrenaline, which they accomplish through the actions we have misinterpreted as play.
"The universe is made of stories not of atoms." Poet Muriel Rukeyser. We don't pay attention to facts and we don't communicate facts. It's all stories--and there's no such thing as a "true story." The brain has to interpret all the sensory data it encounters in order to make its best guess (neuroscientist Anil Seth) at what it is. It also has to interpret the data for meaning: i.e., what it means to each of us. This is an ongoing process that happens so swiftly that we confuse our interpretations with events. We then forget about the events and treat our interpretations as if they were the events. This apparently wasn't a big problem for folks in the Pleistocene, whose brain we still have, but it's an enormous problem for 21st Century homo sapiens.
CJ>>"They don’t just control the opposition, they control the opposition to the controlled opposition. They’re able to pull off this scam because most people don’t lucidly understand the difference between fact and narrative. Human psychology tends to be so intimately wrapped around mental stories that it’s often hard to differentiate between someone who’s telling a story about being an enemy of the establishment and someone who’s actually working against the interests of establishment power."
Brilliant!! And profoundly right on the mark! Thank you Caitlin Johnstone! We need you to continue dismantling false narratives (since they've become so complex that many people can't seem to wrap their heads around them and have gotten themselves lost in these stories).
And your response is just more fake posturing as morally superior without the slightest evidence of being so. You're just repeating the anti-White narrative of your anti-White ruling class masters. Bark, roll over, sit, little doggie.
What's unfortunate is the oppressors stealing the language of the opressed it not new. It is also why we need to keep encouraging people to look closer at the people they listen to. What are their motives? Why would they say something like this? Who does this language benefit and harm?
"What's unfortunate is the oppressors stealing the language of the opressed it not new. "
Not sure what that means ?
Is that an exception to Freedom of Speech ?
Here's your town Mr Libertarian:
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a34387528/new-hampshire-libertarian-town-bears/
my question was on the language/speech claim
I epronallu do not support the view that people can own language that can be stolen
Should'st I present thee with a pumpkin, would'st thou desire to count the seeds?
Of course.
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And then, of course, there are the CIA backed colour revolutions internationally. Don't fall for them either.
bangladesh might be one.
What signs do you see (or what dots are you connecting) to consider this a possibility?
empire did not prevent it. bangladesh is part of the bri. it was eying brics membership. the ousted prime minister claims she refused a us military base on some strategic important island. the nobel peace prize winner replacing her has full empire approval, afaik.
Is there enough evidence to support any of these theories? Unless one can make a rational case for such suggestions, I would say it is conjecture at this point in time. The event is unfolding live in front of our eyes. IMO, we don't have enough information (or the background necessary) to jump to such conclusions.
I prefer to wait and see how all this unfolds...though I am encouraged by the ability of students and the working class to fight back against power and dictatorial/entrenched authority and control.
Martin I am still in a quandry about this. They have brought an 80+ year old man to supposedly fill the vaccum.
MY own thinking is that this has to do with facist Modi but I do not know.
"They’re able to pull off this scam because most people don’t lucidly understand the difference between fact and narrative."
Adding to this fact in a serious way is the media, one other player in the game. Well organised, well controlled by both government AND big money to achieve their objectives.
An interesting summary today, Caitlin.
So trendy -- and should go a long way in restoring US MSM's beleaguered reputation.
Fans of contrived horseshit: rejoice!
Caitlin once again confronts us with the clear and present danger. Elon Musk is setting the bar for a new kind of Oligarch, who are brazen and upfront with wielding their power to exploit the masses. Previously they worked behind the scenes and in shadow.
This oligarch says he make coupes and if people in those countries don't like it they can lump it. But he had to lump it when it came to Bolivia - remember Evo Morales... Musk wanted their lithium and formented a coup but Bolivians rallied round their president and defeated the coup plotters.
In Venezuela right now, a very American coup with Elon Musk's backing is taking place. They are even boasting about it.
While not losing our focus on the plight of the Palestinians - our main concern - we should be aware of the machinations of empire and its oligarchs. As all this are inextricably linked.
And well said Indu. Too many people (especially Silicon Valley Tech bros - I should know) fall for all the bullshit and antics of Elon Musk and his co-horts (Peter Thiel, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg, David Sachs, Andreesen Horowitz and most Big-Tech VCs, and too many others to name).
IMHO, some of the most evil places in the US are: Silicon Valley, Wall Street, Washington D.C.
Spot on! And although there are too many to name, I’d be remiss if I didn’t add Sam Altman to your list. The direction he seems to he heading should further spur us to action.
Completely agree Joy!
"especially Silicon Valley Tech bros - I should know" 😳😱 - are you their sis chokaski?
Agreed. Corporate slugs are now becoming increasingly open about the fact that they are the ones running the world, not the people sitting in political office. The latter serve them, and are most often people from their economic class to begin with. Why does anyone in the working class continue to believe that billionaires in Congress or the White House are going to look out for us instead of their own class?
When George Carlin pointed this out decades ago it was much harder to understand. Most then could laugh about it, but not take it seriously. Now it is perfectly obvious to anyone paying attention and most chose instead to pretend to believe the narrative. I suspect they do so because to admit what they know would require them to take actions that would impact their comfort zones.
And also, who do the Democrat supporters think was running the country during Biden's cognitive decline? Who do they think is running it now since the man with severe cognitive decline (that they can no longer lie to cover for) is still "in office" for a few months? And most importantly, who do they think will be running things regardless of who takes the Oval Office in January?
More than ever this partisan Democrats vs. Republicans mania among the working class resembles a fantasy football league game.
Agreed. I am, in fact, going to tackle the phenomenon of resistance to change even when we recognize that change is necessary in my next article for Medium and Substack. It was something Thomas Jefferson himself recognized and complained about in the Declaration of Independence.
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Those horrible greasy voiced USA spokesmen trying to sound like John Wayne to sell us Snake Oil
JOHN Wayne walked like he had shit in his pant a remarkably stupid man.
Yup. Never buy a Tesla!
You get, and share with precision, your world vision better than anyone, Caitlin. Thank you deeply.
Viva Palestine!--Hamas and ALL of Palestine! Aaron Bushnell and Dr. Ismail Haniyeh (and many others): Rest in Power and Resistance! Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite!
Vote Jill Stein
I’m with you there.
I guess you didn’t read Catlin’s last post. 🙄
It is not enough to oppose those who prey on us, we must also make meaningful human contact the norm in our daily lives; reach across the divides, and start building web-works over them. Protest is what I do online, resistance is what I do when I am real to my neighbors. Just open up and look for ways, you'll find them.
We should all right NOW be building up informal barter networks. A trade system independent of their control. Tricky and Risky. But maybe we have all got too comfortable
Comfortable....believers in the American Dream still sitting in their Dens with their guns!
@JennyStokes
Nah, I don't keep my guns in my "Den". Actually, I've never HAD a "Den". Maybe I should get one? If it were humidity controlled, a "Den" might make a nice arms locker...
One of the few..
A question to you: Why are you doing nothing while your country is being overtaken by Zionists.
I thought (in my ignorance) that when the US people were compromised by their own Government they would come out shooting?
All bullshit and cowards
We've waited too long. US citizens are struggling to survive predatory crapitalism. Many feel discouraged and powerless.
We've allowed this system to get the weapons, surveillance, militarized cops, the drones, etc.
We the people need new strategies to overcome. First we must find common ground. It won't be easy, but we must try or die. ✌️
@JennyStokes
Ah, another commenter who insists that "something (more violent!) must be done!"
I feel no compulsion to shoot at my neighbors for your amusement.
Brevette. It is nothing to do with my amusement.
In the US you have waged war on sovereign countries and have never had to deal with real war.
I have been in a civil war and believe me you will turn on your neighbours/friends/families.....even if it's just for survival!
Personally I still have PTSD Syndrome from what I saw as a child.
YOU people in the USA have absolutely NO idea what is coming.
When you have nothing to eat/you will scavenge the garbage bins/then comes the real nasty people with their guns who break into buildings looking for food. You can build your own little enclave/grow crops but when people are starving they do not care about you;
There's nothing like seeing blank or cynical eyes turn thoughtful. You're right about the social aspect - very important. I'm what you'd call out of practice, but I do have a reasonable strike-rate among the people I know. Just, don't anyone expect immediate results, we're still in TV Land for the most part.
Yes!
Corollary. If they say Israel has a right to exist and to defend itself, they're for the genocide in Gaza. If they ask your positions on either question before any meaningful debate can begin, there will be no meaningful debate. If they preface their remarks by first calling out Hamas for war crimes on Oct 7th, they desire the elimination of every Palestinian on earth. Hope that helped.
Israel is not defending itself against Gaza. It is committing genocide in Gaza. Hamas' war crimes of Oct 7th fade to insignificance when compared to the crimes committed by Israel against Palestinians since even before 1948. Glad we could clear that up.
They were all raw deals and unacceptable
Two birds sitting in a tree, watching the huntsman below.
"Look!" one of the birds says. "He has such compassion for us! He weeps!"
The second bird says: "Watch his hands."
My diagnosis is, if someone has lots of money, they're establishment. If they are being given lots of money, they are sponsored content.
As always, a spot on article!
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I think you miss the mark with the original quotes from Elon, Caitlin. A rare miss, calling the “rioters” “white supremicists” is exactly what the bad peeps who run things are doing — and I’m surprised you would fall for it.
Are not the rioters in Britain white supremacists? I thought that was their self-identification: Britain for the white people, not the non-white immigrants.
Those riots were contrived. I feel sorry for anyone who believed the alluring nonsense and got sucked in and could now face 10 years in jail. Those "rioters" we've been seeing them for decades. The cause changes,the individual bodies change but those are rent-a-mob,ugly,unemployable yobs who get a chance to throw stones and show the world the full range of their stupidity,this gives our prime Public Servant the excuse to bring in more control and surveillance laws
Correct.
So if blacks in Africa retake power from their white colonist rulers, they are “black supremacists”. Got it.
There's a difference between being an anti-colonialist and a supremacist.
There certainly is. And the fact that you are a white anti-colonialist doesn’t make you a “white supremacist.” Nor does the fact that you happen to be white or black or brown when you are protesting the intrusion of a different culture into your living space. In short, you don’t get to label just anything white people do as being “supremacist” any more than you get to do it when other color people are involved.
What do you call 'brown supremacists?'
‘Democrats.” (Okay, that was a cheap shot, but the target was so easy…in truth, I’ve never seen a situation where the term might be useful. Are there any? I guess if there were, I’d call them BS…)
A supremacist is one who believes that their kind are intrinsically superior to all others. Have you read Kipling's "The White Man's Burden?" When black African people start writing poems like that, as they shake off the colonialists whose purpose in their land is to seize and exploit their assets, and install puppet governments over them to streamline this process in return return for a suitable payout, then there will be a data point for considering the possibility that they are "black supremacists."
I’ve read enough Kipling to know there’s more of him being scathingly ironic than literally puerile. The most powerful line that ought to make that clear is:
“The silent sullen peoples
Shall weigh your Gods and you.”
There’s no doubt they will find him and his entire purpose severely wanting.
Bollocks.
"So if blacks in Africa retake power from their white colonist rulers,"
I personally see "colonists" and" "rulers"being meaningful/important too
Focusing on "white" might lead to the wrong conclusion
White supremacists? Lazy label encouraged by the ruling elite class and their media minions to describe those disenfranchised people crushed by poor employment, fractured family and community, robbed of their wealth such as it was by stealth, numbed by endless dumbed down media and low quality nutrition.....feel free to add to the list and ask yourself, how you would feel seeing migrants coming in and getting perceived "special" treatment.? I could never understand massmigration to damp overpopulated little England, I couldn't get out of the place fast enough myself
They like to call it "cultural integration" lol.
Nice try at trying to twist Caitlin's words into your own "Right-Wing" narrative. Won't work here. Try this on another substack where people are more gullible...
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Britain has been flooded with illegal immigrants just like the US. It’s not “white supremacy” to point this out. Their economy, social services, the NHS are all strained and there’s a lot of frustration just like there is here.
I guess you too seem to be falling for the "blame the immigrants" false narrative - scapegoating the failings of Capitalism, greed, power structures, elite control and failure of systems onto immigrants are we?
Well said. My friend Chang!
Ditto, Ditto...Well expressed!
If by 'illegal immigrants' SW means asylum seekers- it's simply not true. The number has remained steady in recent years (though the route using small boats, rather than the back of lorries, has changed since Brexit), it is low compared to 2000 and is low compared to many other countries. The 'crisis' of 'illegal immigration' was deliberately created and we're seeing it play out.
Yup.
No, the NHS and social services are strained because their right-wing government cut them over and over and over again, decade after decade, (while spending tons of money on the military, et al), in order to break them. Why, you say? So that they could privatize them. They have begun the process of doing that. The oligarchy foam over any public money being used to actually serve the public, instead of being transferred to cronies as lucrative contracts.
There are a lot of British Commonwealth countries whose populations are largely non-white, who (by right of being members of the Commonwealth) have been settling in Britain in the last half century. That is why 17% of Britain is now non-white. Undocumented immigrants? 1.7%. Not a flood. More of a trickle, really. But if the status quo screams and point all the time over those "lesser" people taking things that belong to the public (ahem, the white people), the public won't look up, and see who's really taking all their wealth, their future, their hope.
Bingo. Don’t forget the damage that Thatcher caused to England.
I just read this article on her and how she destroyed the unions and jobs, privatized as much as she could and dismantled the welfare state.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/britains-de-industralization-and-privatization-the-economic-and-social-legacy-of-margaret-thatcher-the-iron-lady/5329683
Reagan did the same with American and then Clinton dismantled welfare and offshored our jobs. Both thatcher and Clinton dismantled banking regulations setting the world up for economic collapse.
People should have rioted in both countries then. Hell clinton ran on dismantling welfare and people voted for him anyway.
Very true. Thank you for the addition.
Rioting doesn't get people anywhere (except prison, after being labeled "thugs" and "terrorists").
The only thing that sets back the oligarchy, so far as I know, is a class traitor, like FDR. Or complete national collapse, like the Austro-Hungarian, German, British, French and Turkish Empires after World War One.
FYI, FDR was a savior of Capitalism. He was forced into making the concessions he did due to the realities of the time and environment (depression) and the strength and resistance of the left.
Not unexpected. Good politicians do make concessions. But in the Wall Street Putsch, or the Business Plot, in 1933, the plutocrats did plan to coup him, class traitor that he was. If we had prosecuted that treason (Senator Prescott Bush et al), we would have been spared two Bush administrations.
Thank you!
The social services and NHS are strained because the politicians have been cutting funding to them since Thatcher. The economy is in the toilet because of Brexit. The immigrants are not to blame.
perhaps if UK was not playing games with the map again along with their 'allies' in NATO and Uncle Sam very likely few immigrants would be fleeing to places that advertise themselves as islands of Refuge..where 'real' democracy exists. People attempting to flee endless wars and military occupations in so many places would not be fleeing...along with climate crises in the SOUTH of the planet..they bought the Propaganda and trusted that they would find asylum..but its fake.
When discussing what is driving so many people to flee their homelands, please don’t leave out NATO. Putting a name to who’s responsible for that "endless war and occupation" matters.
yes Joy in HK...agreed which is why i did write to INCLUDE NATO as culpable as folks NEED reminders!
Yes.
Immigrants are not straining the NHS, they’re keeping it running. Without them there would be closures. Where would you get the staff? Here in Canada, our governments are shopping the world for immigrants to come and staff our healthcare system. Mind you, some of them are still trying to demonize them as well. Capitalists and fascists always need someone to punch down on.
I’ve spent my entire career as an RN and worked with many of the nurses recruited from the Philippines. They were all nice, friendly people who I personally enjoyed working with but they were poorly trained nurses. One didn’t know the classic signs of a heart attack and the patient died, two ignored an unconscious patient with a b/p of 220/130 and was only saved because the nurse coming on the next shift immediately called a code and saved him and one I worked with didn’t speak English well enough to read doctor’s orders or understand the patients. I find it hard to believe there aren’t a lot of talented, smart young men and women in Canada who want to be doctors or nurses.
I was able to get a degree because of the nurse shortage and Texas only charged $50/semester for tuition to help students attend university to become nurses. The foreign nurses I worked with were paid lots of perks and bonuses. This makes no sense to me.
I don't feel safe with you!
The cause of these migrations is US-led/NATO predatory Capitalism and endless wars. The main industry in the US is weapons sales or gifts, in the case of Israel.
NAFTA, other trade deals, etc. have caused poverty in many places, including the sacrifice zones here in the US. Predatory corporations (with US government help) take without leaving anything except pollution and misery. Witness the Congo and many more places. Corporations extract! Capitalists steal, people pay.
Poverty in the US has been increasing for decades. The US is one global predatory entity. If these fake leaders can't persuade countries to participate, they'll just invade.
Look at their continuous attempts to subsume Venezuela. Oil!
It's completely necessary for the global working classes to unite and revolt. We can do it. I believe many of us will die, but we must try. ✌️
>>"The US is one global predatory entity. If these fake leaders can't persuade countries to participate, they'll just invade."
Very well said J C. Thank you!
Why are there immigrants in these Colonial countries?
What is not pointed out is that the NHS has been very well served by immigrant nurses and Doctors/Dentists etc.
SW
Who do you think will be sent into the front lines if the US goes to war?
One of the main reasons Ukraine is losing the so-called war is because they don't have enough 'cannon fodder' or as Scot Ritter said 'people to go into the meat grinder.'
How many times have we heard politicians talk about immigrants....it is one of the most talking points in elections.
Many US/UK people don't want to fight. As it is the US Military is finding it hard to recruit US citizens. SO tell me please who will be co-erced into fighting?
UK used and co-erced Indians into their wars in Europe putting them on the front lines!
Enuf said.
NHS has been badly managed for years. The reason why is obvious privatisation of the health system. It's already happening.
These 'illegal' immigrants are probably most of your nurses/cleaners etc.
OH Don't forget the Doctors.
The UK may be trying to emulate the US predatory heathcare system. We in the US have the most regressive system/s. We are terribly propagandized and robbed. Seattle here.
I think the real answer here is the undying support by citizens for State Control (of the border).
That actually gave Biden the power to do what he did. Politicize it.
And now Angela Rayner who I used to like is dropping the law that says only British citizens who have paid in to our economy have first access to public housing. So your married son or daughter with a baby and a toddler has to live in your spare room while someone just off the boat from Africa or Shittistan gets shooed into a council house.
"Shittistan"? Racism noted.
You sound like tRump, the scapegoater, racist, fascist wannabe.
Do you believe that some races are intrinsically superior to other races, such that the other races should be subordinate to them, and surrender their lands, their goods, their very persons, to the service of the superior race?
"Supremacy" to the "other" people, reads as, "I do not respect you, you are a lesser form of life, and I'm coming for your stuff." This is not an attitude conducive to civil order and peaceful discourse.
And, no, I don't expect to find Black Supremacists in African countries, especially since most African countries are made up of dozens, if not hundreds, of various African tribes, which different cultures, languages, history.
He was always idolized by the libertarian futurist tech bro types. But yea hes the perfect example of liberals and libertarians warm to fascism when the going gets tough.
He's got too much to lose. See him with the Israelis - he staggered away like AOC out of "Mama Bear"s office.
He was born and raised in Apartheid South Africa. Perhaps, like Deborah Messing, he too, felt he was coming home when he got to Israel.
I don't know if everyone saw this: NYT recently did a "Warning" piece on Trump, listing his sins in office. But...
"Instead of listing the numerous policy choices that made both the United States and the world a worse place, the emphasis is placed much more on Trump’s worst personal excesses and the things that made him an aberration relative to other presidents. Put simply, the Times cares more about reminding people of palace intrigue bullshit that doesn’t matter at the expense of discussing things that affect millions of people.
"...crimes—including Trump’s expansion of drone strikes, his ordering of an illegal assassination against a top Iranian general, and his support for Saudi Arabia’s devastating bombing campaign against Yemen—do not appear in the Times’ history of his administration."
There is a list of everything they ignored in the article, below. Health, war, immigration, assassination, check it out - it's horrible.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/the-new-york-times-trump-administration-timeline-misses-what-makes-him-so-dangerous?hsLang=en
Endless articles about his combover and skin die. That really upset them.
It's such an insane concept "Let's just wear half the mask today".
That’s such a half-masked remark!
The mass legacy heritage media love pussies. But hey,doesn't everyone waste hours online scrolling through those cute kitten pictures.
How do even low intelligent people not see it? Do they really see the oppressed victims in these movies as analogous to Israelis or wealthy Brits protecting their stuff??! I enjoyed the remake of Dune. The oppressed people of the spice planet certainly reminded me of real life oppression where plutocrats steal natural resources. It’s like a sick joke considering who puts this out
Unfortunately yes, they do. Musk's movie list is incomplete. If you've seen a movie like 'Zulu' or 'Blackhawk Down", then yes, you see the colonizers as the victims and noble heroes.
You bring up an excellent point. We can go back to some earlier films that are far more explicit in painting the occupiers and colonialists as the heroic victims. There’s the one glorifying the plucky underdogs creating the new state of Israel, called “Exodus.” But probably my favourite of the colonial role-reversal genre is “The Four Feathers” from 1939.
They like to tell us in a mocking way exactly what they're at. It's funny. We are the mouse the cat plays with ie tortured before killing it. They called COVID -OMICRON- anagram of MORONIC. Says it all.
Just to be clear, I’m not questioning your point, but for the sake of accuracy, cats don’t “play” with mice in order to cause pain and anguish in the mice. I read a study that showed that cats don’t have the jaw strength to open a mouse until they reach a certain level of adrenaline, which they accomplish through the actions we have misinterpreted as play.
That's even more yuk!
"The universe is made of stories not of atoms." Poet Muriel Rukeyser. We don't pay attention to facts and we don't communicate facts. It's all stories--and there's no such thing as a "true story." The brain has to interpret all the sensory data it encounters in order to make its best guess (neuroscientist Anil Seth) at what it is. It also has to interpret the data for meaning: i.e., what it means to each of us. This is an ongoing process that happens so swiftly that we confuse our interpretations with events. We then forget about the events and treat our interpretations as if they were the events. This apparently wasn't a big problem for folks in the Pleistocene, whose brain we still have, but it's an enormous problem for 21st Century homo sapiens.
"Indian Tonto, Indians all around us! Looks like we're finished."
"What do you mean, 'we'"?
Homo sapiens. "Our" brains are not wired to experience reality as it is. It's a science thing. :)
Call out the instigators
Because there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right
We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now
Lock up the streets and houses
Because there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right
We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now
Hand out the arms and ammo
We're going to blast our way through here
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right
We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now
(Thunderclap Newman - "Hollywood Dream" , 1969 )
Raped in an Israeli camp,
Under a shiny blue lamp.
We are God's chosen, they said
And soon, you too will be dead.
go pro video. lol
Very appropriate.
CJ>>"They don’t just control the opposition, they control the opposition to the controlled opposition. They’re able to pull off this scam because most people don’t lucidly understand the difference between fact and narrative. Human psychology tends to be so intimately wrapped around mental stories that it’s often hard to differentiate between someone who’s telling a story about being an enemy of the establishment and someone who’s actually working against the interests of establishment power."
Brilliant!! And profoundly right on the mark! Thank you Caitlin Johnstone! We need you to continue dismantling false narratives (since they've become so complex that many people can't seem to wrap their heads around them and have gotten themselves lost in these stories).
THANK YOU!!!
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There is no difference between fact and narrative outside physics. And we're not talking about physics are we?
Wow! Your answer makes me think you are a serious contender for the Darwin awards. Congratulations - you might just clinch it!
And your response is just more fake posturing as morally superior without the slightest evidence of being so. You're just repeating the anti-White narrative of your anti-White ruling class masters. Bark, roll over, sit, little doggie.
" it was a dark and stormy night............
"the night was...moist"