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Why do the Empire Managers sound exactly like Israel lobbyists in general? Are they one and the same?

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The Zionists have taken over and the tail is waging the dog.

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I think it was Senator Everett Dirksen way back in the 60s that stated that Washington DC was Israeli-controlled territory.

30 states have criminalized citizens supporting BDS activity against Israel.

A large number of city and county jurisdictions have been sending their police forces to Israel to be trained in the proper way to bash skulls.

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Is Israel the US proxy or is the US Israel's proxy?

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Talking in terms of proxy is missing the point a bit. In some sense the US is the proxy, but usually a proxy would be receiving support from the core state, but in this case the core state is receiving support from the proxy.

The more apt analysis is a parasite-host relationship, where the parasite is obvious, and it hasn't just latched onto America, it's parasitic tentacles are reaching into everything.

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I get your point, John, but the US has been arming and defending Israel's VIOLATIONS of International Law for so long at the UN Security Council, the US does Israel's bidding too!

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If the US ceased to fund the Zionist state militarily and vis its joint intelligence services it would collapse with alacrity. There are also large investments into Israeli hi tech by Blackrock and other sources of concentrated capital. The merger of state and corporate power is one definition of Fascism.

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Not necessarily. There are 267 Jewish Billionaires in this World. Half of the Billionaires in the US are Jewish.

No doubt they have enough $ collectively, to pick up if the US cuts off it's Welfare-Warfare programs with Israel, giving them $BILLIONS of US TAX Dollars every year with BORROWED MONEY.

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It’s the same beast with different masks.

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AIPAC is populated by Zionists and Neocons with a Nazi mindset. They're the most powerful and influential lobby in DC. If they don't like you, you don't get elected. They control the government. They run the Anglo-Zionist Empire of Lies and Hate. They have turned the NATO nations into Fascist Police States. The IOF (Israeli Occupation Force) trains our police. The Antisemitism Awareness Act gives the Riot Cops the legal right to kill the Pro-Palestinian Protesters.

The D Party, R Party and AIPAC are cancers that must be excized to save the life of our nation.

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The REASON we need this back in force and EFFECT even if it means going private. https://www.courageouslion.us/p/those-forgotten-and-ignored-13-words

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Well said.

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Thank you.♥️

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It's extremely difficult to tell the difference George. You might need to hire a detective.

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Caitlin,

This is exactly the type of "spelling out" situations, that The Public need to read /hear.. It describes the "reactions" *thinking( that Sociopaths & Psychopaths have to a human situation.

The usual NO COMPASSION, thinking only about their situation(s)/AGENDA(s). People are irrelevant - only in so much as their Agenda, comes FIRST (always).

PLEASE CAITLIN use this spelling out to educate The People. Its not speaking down to people, its informing them of a way of processing thought by the minority, that The People are not aware of and do not even contemplate in daily life.

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Hamas, the acronym for Islamic Resistance Movement, doesn't have jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicopters, tanks, artillery and mostly BULLdozers like Israel.

It's not a WAR but a MASSACRE by the overwhelming OCCUPYING Power, Israel, the World has woken up to see unfolding in REAL TIME.

According to the Geneva Convention and International Law, an OCCUPIED People has the legal right to resist the OCCUPIER, Israel.

Israel-AIPAC money has convinced the US West Hamas are Terrorists, not Freedom Fighters resisting the ILLEGAL OCCUPATION.

The United Nations Secretary-General has it right saying "October 7 didn't happen in a VACUUM."

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They would (be more successful) if they weren't being carpet bombed continuously since 2006. They would (be more successful) if they weren't blockaded by air, sea, and land. They would (be more successful) be able to do so many things if the IGF (Isralei Genocidal Force) or IOF (Israeli Occupation Force) didn't attempt at ethnically cleansing them for the last 75 years.

Gene, you're obviously not here to learn, understand, or think critically. You have obviously not made the effort to learn history or know the facts. You are exactly the kind of person empire managers love to spin their narratives on - and you have bought them hook, line, & sinker.

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Governing a concentration camp? Sure pal.

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Funny you should say that. I think I recall Hamas being elected democratically and their government dismantled and ministers incarcerated by Israel for having the nerve to get elected democratically? Why don't they concentrate on governing indeed 🙄

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I wish you wouldn't remove these. It is good for us to see what the opposition is thinking. And how removed from reality their way of thinking is.

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Gene, you need to stop being manipulated by the inputs, the impulses of your feed - the narrative that an occupied people are the aggressors is being force fed to you by managers of empire.

The narrative in which a nuclear armed state supported by a superpower is anything other than a colonial project and a forward operating base for empire is a false one.

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Gene these are simply US State Dept narratives that you are parroting - these groups have different ideologies and motivations that intersect in both complimentary and competitive ways - any simple narrative in which they are working in lockstep is a false one. I would encourage you to learn Likud's and Netanyahu's history of supporting Hamas during the group's formative years as a counterweight to the legitimacy of the PLO.

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No Gene. We want the genocidal assault to end. Now.

Stop deflecting and distracting.

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Gene, are you familiar with the Revolt at Sobibor? I'll give you a hint. Sobibor was the most notorious Death Camp in Poland during WW2.

What happened last October 7 reminded of the Revolt at Sobibor.

Gaza is a Zionist Controlled Concentration Camp for Palestinians (SEMITES) and now it's getting the Sobibor Treatment

I am not anti-Semite. I am anti-Zionist because I equate Zionists with Nazis. I equate Neocons with Nazis too.

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So if the folks at Sobibor were getting outside weapons (they were) then that makes their resistance illegitimate?

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Mil grade weapons my ass, Hamas have home made firearms and bottle rockets, nothing mil grade about it.

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Can you possibly entertain the idea that Hamas has ARISEN in response to 70 years of persecution of the Palestinian people, and if Israel had only been content to SHARE the area of Palestine with the Palestinians, or to insure that they had enjoyed the same rights as Jewish Israelis, there would be no need for Hamas? I have been listening to the Israelis saying for 40 years that the Palestinians have been the stumbling block in arriving at a two-state solution (b/c a one state solution where everyone enjoyed equal rights is anathema to Israel since they fear Palestinians would eventually become the majority and that would be a threat to Israel remaining a Jewish state). However, there seems to be increasing evidence that Israel never wanted a 2-state solution, and, perhaps through the help of the U.S., was so adept in laying the blame at the feet of the Palestinians. With 700,000+ settlers illegally occupying the West Bank, encouraged by the Israeli government, bolstered by the Israeli military, the evidence for what the Israeli government was about is clear.

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Nah, history started on Oct 7, 2023. Nothing happened before that date. HAMAS launched the attack randomly for no reason at all.

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Exactly. Just as the history of Russia and Ukraine started in 2022 with Russia's "unprovoked" invasion; and 9/11 happened because Al Qaeda woke up one day in 2001 to "hate our freedoms"; and Iran in 1979 inexplicably arose to impose an Islamic state and called the US "Satan" and imprisoned our embassy simply because they were a bunch of irrational yahoo troglodytes; and the North Vietnam decided in the 1960s to robotically follow orders from the Kremlin to take over the world, because, you know, those mechanistic beehive 'Orientals'; and ...

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Except 911 is totally BS from the "official" point of view.

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For irony this is good. Some people won't get it though.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G12Z0td-Nqo&t=6s Norman Finkelstein...What were they supposed to do?

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You conveniently forgot that Israel swore off the PLO and described their tactics as a ‘peace offensive’ .. Israel actively sabotaged all peace talks with the PLO as well as.. oh wait, it’s our good friend Gene we’re taking to here., never mind then. No need to throw in another log..

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The Zionists NEVER wanted a One State or Two State Solution. NEVER SINCE 1946 WHEN THE IRGUN AND HAGANAH TERRORISTS SHOWED UP!

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Yes they do! The want the one state to be PLANET EARTH with them as the ruling elite. Jerushitlem will be the capital! YEAH! Can't wait.

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Tell me who has encouraged HAMAS and made the organization even stronger in the last decade?

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who supplied this information to you?

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Bingo!

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because the State is the empire

and Israel is first and mostly a state just like the U.S. State / empire is

State-Mandated associations over the liberal social right to Freedom of Association was always a violation of right

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Thanks for spelling this out so clearly, Caitlin. The 'narrative' is how people are manipulated, and don't have much to do with truth.

Stopping wars would be a good thing. This article should be wind beneath the wings of those of us who want peace.

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Peace puts so many people out of work for the Military Industrial Complex and the Law Enforcement Growth Industry that it won't be happening in our lifetimes.

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Maybe we should retrain people so they can work in the care economy and help to deal with the natural disasters that result from endless war. The system should serve us, not the other way around.

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It was always really obvious to me what banning tik tok was about: the US intelligence agencies can’t infiltrate or control it. They can’t control the narrative. It was never about “national security” in terms of Americans’ data being used abroad (if they cared about data privacy they’d rein in American companies…) nor is it about how addictive it is (again, no problem with American companies) the “national security” is that the nation doesn’t have a press beholden to it like how the establishment infiltrates all of American media. Btw I hate tik tok and don’t trust China for a second. But this is about the US government losing control and the plebes thinking for themselves instead of being told (at least by the American plutocrats) what to think.

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I have no problem with TikTok. I sit there watching and laughing my head off. It is a quick way of projecting information, just like Facebook and Twitter. BTW , I was kicked out of twitter before it became X for referring to a politician as a gimp. I kid you not! Nor do I understand the distrust of China. I distrust the United States and all Western governments and institutions more than I’d distrust China for the state of the world.

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>>" Nor do I understand the distrust of China."

All nation states (by that I mean the rulers and the elite that control these states) should/must be distrusted across the world. As Caitlin has explained in this article, ALL COUNTRIES maintain control (over their citizens) by managing/controlling the narratives. Power (and the people that wield power) must be looked at with a healthy dose of skepticism - whether it be US, China, Russia, UK, or any other country/place/organization on earth. There are no exceptions (IMHO).

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i tend to distrust the one with military bases all over the world and the ones who have invaded & destroyed the most countries and has most often supported if not instigated coups in the most countries and that puts economic sanctions on any whose politics/economic system they don't like.

the one that publicly said that it would never allow mr. corbyn to become prime minister of the UK rather than any of the boogie men that they wave in front of me.

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Of course! And meanwhile, little ol merican company Google is data mining the shit out of everyone and handing over our personal data to anyone including the govt. And big data AT&T just had another data breach where millions of personal data was stolen.

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FWIW, I really like your comment.

I, too, hate TikTok, don't like how addictive it is, and don't trust China. And I also agree that none of this is what the ban is about.

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China being untrustworthy is def part of the narrative!

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I did not say I trust them. I meant that lies about China; such as hacking our computers, being nervous about the West and our war on 'terror', 'overproducing' goods and dominating the market and planning to 'invade' its own province of Taiwan are all over British media and are certainly part of the 'narrative'.

The Chinese have repeatedly said that they support the rights of sovereign countries to govern themselves (the opposite of what the US do) and that they have no interest in taking over unipolarity but rather mutual investment for mutual growth. And all their actions have so far supported their words (the opposite of what the US does).

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The "narrative" is an old tire that has seen too many rotations, no tread, no traction. Everything Biden and Blinken say the opposite is true, their desperation is palpable, both have a cadaverous haggard look from too many lies and the constant stress. The pathocracy is down for the count.

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Have you noticed how their eyes get darker, piggier-looking, sunken into their faces like tiny black specks of coal? Biden in particular looks like he has tiny specks of coal for eyes. No wonder they put those aviator sunglasses on him to cover them up! They're creepy as f***!

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Not to repeat the reply I just wrote to Robert, but you noticed Biden's eyes, too.

The guy is just creepy, period. I can't figure out how his aides can stand to be near him. Maybe, per my reply to Robert, we'll just need to stick around and see how THEY age. That might be the tell as to what's going on inside them and what they're willing to put up with for some little sip of power.

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Not counting the ones he personally has ripped out of victims?

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they are REPTILES!

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Quit giving reptiles a bad name. Call them what they really are. PSYCHOPATHIC CONTROL FREAK PARASITES. Heavy on ALL four words.

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Good observation! So true..

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It's a psychopath thing. ALL of them are. Some are just more psychopathic than others.

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So you noticed the picture, too.

Now I, for one, am not getting any younger, but there's aging in a natural way and then there's aging in an Emperor Palpatine way. Maybe it's got something to do with what's going on in a person's soul.

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Yep, that's what I think about when I see these people's faces.

But unfortunately for them, they lack the picture in their attic, so their faces reveal everything.

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Thank you for sharing this. I look forward to reading it even though I have seen the movie versions . It is truly a classic for our times, and Wilde a interesting person.

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We need more Macklemores.

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They do not want us to think genocide is bad, that is the 'narative' reality holds. Interestingly, the students and social media are doing what the empire managers don't want. We are seeing politicians clearly trying to exert influence over the situation to try to control and manipulate it. It is not normal for police to truly engage against peaceful student protests. It is not normal that we are seeing outright attempts at censorship. Sure, the propaganda is there, but it is less effective. I can only think of US politicians as scumbags, they is the most polite term I think they should be addressed as. They are psychotic meaglomaniacs who are also narcissistic. "Lose the intellectual battle" it is lost when the moral battle is lost...

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The fact that the empire managers think of murdering children as a narrative to be manipulated tells me all I need to know about these monsters. I pray for the total collapse and annihilation of this dark regime we are all suffering under.

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I doubt prayers will be of any help... but looking at our mirrors staring at the reflection could probably reveal where most of our problems come from...

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I have not seen this in any video feed or credible accounts, but it is a trope that is not going away. And criticizing the military wing of Hamas for living beside the people of Gaza when THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO LIVE is just a manipulation of an obvious truism. Any argument to the effect that Hamas militants are "using human shields" or "hiding behind women and children" is not a rational observation or argument to justify the absolute carnage and misery we have witnessed in Gaza for 7 months and counting. Insurgents typically live among their people. This is no surprise and has been forever so. American colonial insurgents were living among their people and constituted only 1/3 of a population that consisted of royalists and those uncommitted to the cause. Macabeeans fought and lived among their people. Some in the Warsaw uprising referred to it as an intifada and they lived among their people in conditions akin to Gaza. This is not to justify the hate crimes of October 7, but to point out the poverty of the "hiding behind women and children" trope. The last election in Gaza was 2005. At least half the Gaza population wasn't even alive then and I am sure that no Gazan supports being used as a "shield" for anyone. So why kill them in such numbers and turn Gaza into a hellscape? I cannot improve on the many observations here that "this didn't start on October 7." Thank God that Israel and its patrons are losing the narrative, in fact may have already lost it. It is a terrible realization that I do and must live in a world that includes Mr. Karp. May his tribe decrease.

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Cute comment.

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E N O U G H

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"True power is controlling what people think about what happens. "

And here most of us thought that the power had something to do with who had the most nukes or warships or aircraft carriers or ballistic missiles... It's actually been the control of the narrative that is the single most powerful thing in the world. And We the People are taking control of the narrative away from these sociopathic warmongers and shutting down the genocide. We are indeed VERY powerful!

Repeat these sentences to yourself every day and be glad: "Don’t let anyone tell you your protests don’t make a difference or your dissident speech poses no threat to the powerful. If what you’re doing wasn’t working, empire managers wouldn’t be losing their minds right now."

Power to the people! #FreePalestine

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Reminds me of a scene in Dune 2, where Gurney Halleck is telling Paul about the Atreides nuclear arsenal, and then makes the remark, "Now that's where real power lies." Which is of course what he believes. But the irony Gurney fails to see, is the real power lies in Paul's ability to decipher his precognitive dreams, and once he takes the Water of Life, able to understand better a rich inner past. It turns out, that's where the real power lies.

The Bene Gesserit also in Dune 2, use narrative to control and move forward with their own plans. Good movie. Villeneuve did a great job in bringing the source material to light and didn't stray far from Dune's thematic content.

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Well said!

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"Whoever controls the narrative controls the world" as stated before but it is more and more evident that the world is becoming aware of the evil looming from the Empire, which along with it's puppets is falling.

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"If what you’re doing wasn’t working, empire managers wouldn’t be losing their minds right now." Too late. They have already lost their minds.

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I just started reading your work over the past week and I am so totally impressed. Your words seem to be plucked from my head. You say everything I'm thinking, albeit much more detailed and with much better grammar and punctuation. 😬

I'm really happy I found your papers. Your doing very important work. Please keep doing what you're doing. The world needs to hear this! 🙏❤️

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I found her on Twitter and discovered Substack because of her and boy am I glad. She has this perfect combination of literary eloquence, moral fortitude and clarity of thoughy , which, till I discovered her, was always missing from my online reading. I always used to wonder after reading Atlantic, Economist, NYT and the like why do I love the writing eloquence but it still rings hollow at some level. Now I know the reason: because it was narrative manipulation cloaked in sophistry. As a non-westerner looking to imbibe the best values of western culture, it was the best reference I had till I discovered Caitlin and many more like her on Twitter and Substack and better able to appreciate human-centered perspectives that come from all places and times

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Wow, very well said. Impressive vocabulary too. I whole heartedly agree with your opinion. Thankfully we have platforms like Twitter and Substack to tell the truths you'll never hear on the television media. 🙏

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Thank you. I almost never used to comment on the internet all these years. In Caitlin's words, the vapidity and fakeness of modern culture meant there was often very little of substance being discussed anyways

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"people are looking at the ...horror in Gaza & screaming it needs to stop,... our rulers are hearing us & thinking, “Oh no, we need to find a way to get them to stop believing that narrative" 📢🍉

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That shows you that they empire managers are completely lacking in conscience. They never consider that murdering thousands and especially little children is a monstrous activity that should be stopped immediately. They just keep thinking about how they'll spin the narrative to keep the war machine profits rolling in. Disgusting.

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"murdering thousands and especially little children." And US Empire Managers "just keep thinking about how they'll spin the narrative" 📢🍉

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Someone must have known that even the best couldn't spin it. But they did it anyway. Having said that, they did actually achieve their short term aim- Gaza is destroyed.

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The male propagandist on the Rising video above tried to characterise people who think it's wrong to bomb innocent people in an internment camp as young and gullible, whereas clearly anyone with a conscience and empathy can see it. I'm nearly 70, and am well-informed enough to know the historical background and conversant enough with logic and propaganda to see through this blatant example of spin.

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How does Palatir pass the SEC "sniff test" as a publicly traded company entrenched with a secret/security agency such as the CIA? Just asking!

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Caitlin mentioned a hydra.

The US Empire hydra has far more heads than the one of mythology. Somewhere in that mass is a head called " the SEC".

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Because there is no such thing as law. There is only context.

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These Demons look to divide and conquer! What do you call politicians and Globalist at the bottom of the ocean? A good start! Evil knows no Bounds!

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good point... but would the ocean bottom be big enough to accommodate everyone?

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Divide families,, Humanity, destroy.. its part of the typical pattern of Sociopathic/Psychopathic behaviours.

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As George Bailey said in the Classic movie, 'It's A Wonderful Life', in the Boardroom scene confronting Potter they can only understand something they can feel, touch or smell...something they can get their hands on. Because they are all Satan worshipping atheists. British empiricists and Benthamite utilitarians.

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The thing that scares me in relation to Caitlin's wise words today is the fact that she is saying them in a public forum to which those empire puppets have access.

Drawing attention to what she has said might make them more aware that what she is saying, daily, is absolutely correct. But as it becomes so obvious to them, if it hasn't already, then mentioning it over and over will renew their efforts to bring it all to an end.. FAST. By any means.

Reference has been made to the last time such demonstrations were made and the resulting successful outcome. 1968, a long, long time ago. Things are different in 2024. Technology has now given them a brand new weapon to use, the likes of which was not around previously.

Add to that the 86%of Israeli owned corrupted politicians resident in the USA, remembering also that in November these people have no other choices but Genocide Joe and Terrible Trump, both tarred with the same brush, that is........

....total subservience to a third party, a disgraceful and hated state called Israel, which currently has the security forces, the politicians, the majority of people (or so it seems to me) and the media, everywhere, by the throat. That wasn't the case in 1968, for those who remember.

There is a need to mention the courage of our young students, wherever they demonstrate, but it is frightening to think that such a reference just adds to the resolve of the criminal class, all mentioned above, to become even more arrogant and increase their efforts substantially, as a result.

It should make everyone nervous as to what the Bidens, Blinkens and their Jewish masters are able to do in this day and age. If people like that think what is happening in Palestine is just, then the students on any campus, wherever it be located are different, only in their location. Such demonstrators are a sitting target for violence from Washington , state Governors like DeSantis and fully paid police officers who do not seem to give a damn as to who they hurt, even their own next door neighbour.

Yes. Different to 1968 in a country where based on electoral statistics, only 66% of the voters even bother to vote. With the choices they have, one has to ask, why would they?

Find some worthy Americans. There are millions of them available. Watch out though for the Israeli stooges. The USA government is full of them already. Paid in full!

Decent American people are total enemies to the likes of AIPAC and their breed, who are scattered all over the USA. These Israeli controlled and disloyal Zionist types have little value to America. They are bringing it down, daily..

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Yes BUT how did AIPAC manage to become the Govt. of the USA?

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Eternal Vigilance is the Price of Freedom, America!

To Generation P for Peace:

Be aware of F.B.I., AIPAC, ADL agent Provocateurs who want you to turn your agape into rage, hate and violence! No violence is the sine qua non of Humanity's movement: The emerging new BRICs System.

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