To think in my State, we citizens must beg our Legislators to pass a Resolution requesting our Congressional to call for a ceasefire in Gaza, to end Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians. If Legislators and Congressional were good human beings, it would already be done, all support of Israel would be nil!
John Zwiebel: Speaking about it IS doing something about it. Don't give in to those who tell you to shut up if you aren't going to DO something about it. Our power lies in our ability and attempts to communicate with and support each other while witnessing the inhuman and wrong wrong wrong goings on of our so called leaders.
I am against abuse of children. That would include burning, crushing, dismemberment and starvation.
My best friend was Jewish. Go ahead and roll your eyes at that, but it's true. He was my brother-in-law, older than I by a dozen years, and were best friends and he was my mentor. He was a computer professor at City College in Manhattan.
I post Columbia's Professor Sachs and Max Blumenthal and Greenwald videos on my website.
We are going to vote out ALL Democrats and ALL Republicans and elect officials who are not war-minded. That is only one step. I wish the elections are today instead of November.
The change in attitude that humanity needs to make is to dump the war-first, hate-first, oppression-is-good mindset, that is going to take lifetimes of work.
No I wasn't. And we may have a repeat this year in Chicago the way things are going. My point still stands.
Everyone has a chance to be elected, which includes Jill Stein, Dr. Cornell West, Gloria La Riva, Robert Kennedy Jr (even though I don't agree with his politics), etc. are on the ballot. It's going to take a lot more than just me to get Independents elected, that's why I am here encouraging people to do so.
People continually to elect the Duopoly because "no one else ever has a chance" is not solving the problem.
I stopped voting in 2016. I won't list the reasons I don't support any of the names you've listed.
What's "old" is the insistence that voting is going to change anything.
The closest we came (in my life) was Ross Perot in '92. Instead, Clinton came to power and the "Jewish Lobby" blackmailed him.
The attempt to reform has been smashed over and over again, Wolff explains elections since 1916. He later goes on to talk about reform vs revolution. "It's the system".
I don't believe I ever said people (in general) should "shut up".
I may have said that to a specific person about a specific exchange. (and that might even have been you.
The Ai Weiwei article is a bit more complicated.
Art at that level is often financed for political motivations. He gets rich because he appeals to some patron who interprets his art as supporting that patron's political philosophy. I have no personal experience with seeing his art. I vaguely recall reading about "something" that happened quite some time ago. OTOH, an artist who creates no controversy doesn't get looked at.
I have a few friends who create art I find appealing. They can't help themselves. They're always creating something. Sometimes someone will pay them for it.
Went to the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam once with a friend. He thought it stupid. I thought "OK".
Long way of saying, just because someone is a famous artist that doesn't give his opinion about politics more "weight" than your's or mine.
Yeah, lots of people who used to have a position on "the stage" are being suppressed. What else is new? If I didn't care for what they had to say then, if they haven't changed their minds I don't know why I should care for what they have to say now.
I will acknowledge that they are being suppressed -- welcome to the club.
Pick any profession. Under our current system, if you want to get ahead, you have to sing the tune of the guy with the money. Examples of this are everywhere.
So, what are you going to "do" about it?
Please note I didn't say "shut up".
Please note I didn't say I knew what to do.
Please note I only asked, that since you have a complaint, what are you doing about it.
John Zwiebel: your repeated question does not make sense because if people are speaking out in person or in writing, they are doing something. You are asking the question of people who are, in fact, doing something. You seem to be trying to invalidate people. How is that helping anything?
here is another article with more info about his political views. https://daily.jstor.org/ai-weiweis-readymade-politics/ and also what wikipaedia has to say about him. Probably the reason he has become so well known in North America is because of his stated experiences with the previous Chinese government. I have been to one of his exhibitions many years ago. I liked his artwork a lot. I think that there is a lot of criticism about what happens in China and I think it is odd because many of the same issues that existed under Mao Zedong are starting here in North America. Wei Wei's artwork and words help us to see that.
American "presidents " are not elected , but selected. who in the h... would vote for Biden, "who can't walk, can't speak , can't think , can't talk " - D. Trump.
Yes, don’t let them numb you. Recently I’ve noticed the horrific images on SM are being replaced with posts about Iran/Israel conflict and politics. I deliberately continue to repost the horrific images, even though I’ve had an exceptionally distressing week because the carnage continues. For me, my son, Palestine and teaching job are the centre of my focus…everything else is peripheral.
I can never be content or truly happy while the slaughter continues, nor am I desensitised to the horrors. Yesterday it was a drone with a recording of a baby crying to lure people out for killing. Today, it’s a baby with an amputated hand, fractured arm and face full of stitches. Don’t look away!
Nicole Everett I totally agree with you. The luring drone was the latest that grossed me out for the day. It seems every day I find something more grotesque and inhuman done by the Israelis. I think those acts are what keeps my blood boiling. Then there's US complicity 🤬 The sense that no matter how many Americans say stop the coggs of their wheels keep grinding away in support and defense of these demons. And they're all gleefully doing the bidding of this heinous agenda 🤯😱
I've stated on dozens of occasions that I haven't a clue about what to do.
I have asked for ideas.
The responses amount to "hope" or "just vote".
Been there. Done that.
The USA has no Mahatma Ghandhi to inspire us, but even his supposedly "peaceful revolution" required a lot of violence (at least according to some recent articles I've read). Which Ghandhi condemned.
I remember the day JFK was shot
I remember the day MLK was shot
I remember the day RFK was shot
I don't have a gun and if I did, I wouldn't know who to aim it at.
America's political leadership isn't the problem, they're just a symptom.
I am not responsible for how others feel about the situation. Whether they "do" something or not is their individual choice. I'm certainly NOT telling anyone what to "do" because I have no idea what to do. I'm asking for clues that go beyond what we're doing here.
May I recommend this interview with Joti Brar? Starting about 15 minutes for about 10 minutes she explains that Israel is a "settler colony" of the USA. Much like Ulster was such for Britain. It is the best explanation I've ever heard of why Israel even exits. The claims that Netanyahu just does what he wants are totally bogus. He's doing what the American Plutocracy wants. The very best thing anyone can do for the Palestinians is to destroy the American Plutocracy. IOW the criminals are here in the USA.
"The more westerners can be psychologically shoved into throwing up their hands and filing Gaza away in our mental “bad things in the world I try not to think about” drawer, the easier it is for Israel and its imperial backers to do the monstrous things they want to do there."
Orwell wrote in 1984, “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” This is why we can't let these sociopaths control what we think and feel TODAY. It's key to understanding and empathizing with the history of the Palestinian people, and it's key to building a brighter future for everyone on this sorry rock orbiting the sun. Take charge of your today and your thoughts and feelings--and don't let anyone ever manipulate or attempt to take them away from you.
We honor our ancestors when we don't forget what all they suffered for us to be here. We protect our children's future when we share our history with them today.
I think we are living in some version of Orwell’s 1984.. if you think about it, we’ve always been living in 1984. We are given Coca Cola to numb our senses so the bombs can fall elsewhere..
If the US really wanted to complete economically it would:
tax the billionaires
shutter the CIA
close the NED
close down the NSA
clean out the FBI
require BS degrees for police with at least a year of training like in Europe
destroy the "blob" returning power to elected politicians.
real campaign finance reform.
subsidize more political parties removing the Republicrat monopoly
destroy the "Jewish Lobby" ADL and APAIC
stop financing Israel
prosecute the criminal plutocrats who have made billions selling drugs
reinstate Glass-Steagall
break up Black Rock and Black Stone, actually confiscating their wealth.
creating a Public Bank like the Bank of North Dakota
shutter the Fed
clawing back the fraudulent payments made to incompetent financial managers going all the way back to Silverado Savings and Loan up to Silicon Valley Bank
prosecute Hunter Biden for corruption -- put him, and his coconspirators in jail
nationalize Boeing, removing its current management, prosecuting them for fraud, put them in jail
shutter at least 700 of the 800 military bases scattered around the world
leave Syria and Iraq
leave Taiwan
remove itself from NATO
walk away from Ukraine
stop fomenting revolutions around the world which creates refugees that migrate to the USA
remove sanctions against Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, et. al.
apologize for the weaponization of SWIFT, work with the BRICS to win them back
free all frozen currency reserves
refocus on American citizens as China has done by eliminating extreme poverty.
invest in American Infrastructure: high-speed rail, highways, bridges
refocus on well-managed industrial capitalism
reverse the financialization of the US economy
stop using American agriculture to destroy foreign economies
forgive all student debt
implement universal basic income
pay teachers more
tax Yale, Harvard and the rest of the Ivy League
tax the Church
free college for anyone and everyone (China graduates 8x the STEM degrees as the USA)
give up nuclear weapons
break up the vertical and horizontal monopolies
force the sale of the NYT, WaPo, etc so they aren't owned by Plutocrats
free the internet
reform copyright law to limit the time a copyright is enforced
combat the Plutocrats definition of IP and stop patenting everything
subsidize co-ops giving more decision power to the employees
any company that wants to move to a new location must first have the community approve it or sell to the community.
shutdown private equity which buys companies, strips all their assets, makes them bankrupt
return the retirement funds stolen by private equity to the employees who were defrauded
"I know what to do, but not how to sell it." - by "sell it" you mean for people to agree to your points?
It looks like majority agree with all or almost all of what you've listed. So the problem is not selling, it's implementing. Which is next to impossible because of the real nature of the system where people have no power. They have an illusion of power through the fake notions of "freedom" and "democracy".
Take any one item from the list, try to think about implementation, and get stuck immediately.
Code Pink is delivering a ship filled with food to the coast of Palestine rather than be blocked at the gates. A donation to Code Pink would also be helpful. Medea is an amazing person.
In all honesty Caitlin, sitting comfortably in my living room, sometimes I feel I couldn't handle anymore of this cortisol levels caused by this constant barrage of horrors we're seeing/reading about for about seven months now, till I remember that the people in Palestine have been enduring the real-life horrors for over 75 years now, and some reporters, activists and historians have devoted a significant portion of their lives on this issue. Makes one feel like a woose.
Thank you Caitlin. Just as your powerful poetry about the children of Gaza dared us not to forget, your Newsletter today challenges us not to look away. A relentless grief of six months have passed for the people of Gaza. What is our shock and horror as mere onlookers compared to their suffering. Your Newsletter (and our comments for whatever they are worth ) helps enormously for bearing witness and telling the truth of a tragedy, a tragedy like never before - from losing its impact; from making it normal. Keeping the Israel/US/West accountable for a genocide.
Hopefully this alternative to the mass of propaganda, will contribute in creating a groundswell of opinion and protests and influence. And a foundation for further action.
The people of Gaza needs us to care and empathise and be compassionate. It is the least we can do.
You tell me John Zwiebel, what are we going to do about it. In my case it is to open my heart to the suffering of the Palestinians - a fat lot of good that will do, I hear you say - and hope for a world revolution where there is no white supremacy, no US hegemony, no capitalism, no oligarchical rule, no greed, hatred and delusion, a multipolar world where there is mutual respect and harmony among nations.
Well, John, I’m personally emailing my reps every day (yeah, I know, fat chance they’ll listen) and I personally am voting for the Green Party nominee Jill Stein.
I offered to off myself on the WH steps if several others would join me; an even dozen would draw some attention.
It’s doubtful that Aaron could have found several others willing to self-immolate; that takes a sort of bravery that I myself do not possess, and there’s very little I’m afraid of.
However, if I could save the life of a single Palestinian child by putting a bullet in my head, I would do so.
"So I do what I can to help keep the reality of what’s happening in Gaza on the surface, not just in terms of the factual truth but the emotional truth of it as well. The horror. The suffering."
Thank you for your daily writings on the horrors that are happening to the Palestinians. Some days it’s hard to read again what they are enduring, but read about it we must.
"Feel the grief. Feel the outrage. Feel the anger. Feel the pain."
The 2024 Oscar winning film The Zone of Interest focuses on the happy and cheerful German bourgeois life created by the family of Auschwitz Camp Commander Rudolf Hess. Meanwhile thousands are being murdered and cremated just the other side of their garden wall with almost no intrusion on their bucolic existence.
Meanwhile in Australia this genocide in Gaza goes relatively unreported until an Australian aid worker is killed by the Israeli Defence Force. Their approved and clearly identified convoy was "accidentally" bombed not once, but three times.
So back to the movie and what it says about people's astounding ability to ignore daily horrors when we should be outraged and demanding that they stop. Go and see it and check out your own empathy levels for all those suffering from the many unjust wars and invasions around the planet.
"Don’t let them take that away from you. Feelings are meant to be felt. Feel the grief. Feel the outrage. Feel the anger. Feel the pain."
Caitlin sets a good example expressing their feelings through poetry. I've tried writing some poetry and it helped gather together some of the grief and anger I'm feeling about what's happening in Palestine. I even wrote a short short story recently to express what my deepest hopes are... We can't let the bastards grind us down. We have to remember and record our feelings, even the painful ones.
Thank you for your unrelenting commitment and strength Caitlin, without which it would be difficult for us to sustain the rage we need in sympathy with Palestine. The drivel from the pathetic media here in Aotearoa is as maddening as you described.
I wonder if there will be any Oskar Schindlers in this genocide implemented by Israel. Right now you have an Israeli public disturbingly silent as to what is happening in their own backyard on a people whose land they reside in as a result of European prejudice and a genocide implemented on their own people, But then again it is consistent with their history when one thinks of Nakba in 1948. .
it is their public statements that have disturbed me the most, as seen in the videos of the settlers blocking food shipments to Gaza. As far as I can tell, a large majority of Israelis either support Netanyahu or think he is not being aggressive enough toward the Palestinians.
Hiya, interesting point. I don't know much about Schindler but he appeared to have protected his factory workers (whose labour he was also making a living from) because he knew them like human beings 'I knew the people who worked for me. When you know people, you have to behave towards them like human beings.'
People regard their pets very differently to how they see 'animals'. During the 'foot and mouth' debacle some sheep farmers were also so connected with their animals that tried to protect their flocks by having them live inside their houses; they weren't just pieces of meat to them.
I don't think Palestinians work in the occupied areas any more, I think it is mostly migrant Indian workers who now do the heavy lifting, shitty jobs.
The whole mind set of anyone going to live in 'Israel', a supremacist settler colony in West Asia (and not a multiethnic European State such as Germany) would not be compatible with viewing Palestinians working for them as human beings nor to want to risk anything trying to protect them.
Well, I know there are Arabs who live within Israel, and make up a significant part of the population but I don't think they are treated with any real sense of equality. No doubt poorer, less education and don't play any significant role in the political arena, and probably face a lot of discrimination. I don't know whether they are Palestinians. Well, Gallant did reference them as animals, and I have no doubt they are perceived as inferior to the the Jewish people. Now they have made that really obvious in broad day light. In 1948 they implemented the Nakba, killed some 70, 80 thousand people and sent hundreds of thousands elsewhere which reflects their attitude from the beginning. It's not that intellectually I cannot grasp the concept of genocide, one is going on now in the Sudan, but every day I go to Aljazeera and I see the pictures and it is almost impossible for me to comprehend. The horror, the horror and this is something you cannot forgive. They are making a concerted effort to exterminate these people, or as many as possible. They want them gone. This goes beyond my forgiveness, and I won't forgive my government for making it all possible. Never. As they say they are beyond redemption.
I'm sure there is at least one, but the uprising you read about were all about getting rid of Netanyahu, but not due to the genocide he and his party are implementing. I have always found this disturbing, not to mention the Israeli's who make it their business to try and stop food and aid supplies from reaching the people. No one references this, deals with it, talks about it.
There is more than one brave Israeli speaking out as best they can: Gideon Levy, Omer Cassif, Amira Hass, and others, I am sure. Also Israeli organizations such as Gush Shalom, and B’Tselem. All of whom could probably use more support right now.
I'm not saying there are no Israeli's,speaking out against this, but the majority of Israeli's are not. In an interview shown on Aljazeera, one of those interviewed, a Israeli journalist, referenced this fact. The coverage seems to indicate there is not, and I think it would be good for Israel if people made their voices heard in this regard. In America as well.
Yes. The Nazi party and Hitler were also enormously popular in Germany. I think part of it may be the psychological mistake people can make by identifying "Strength" with perhaps visceral, naked male brutality. Was watching a youtube video just the other day of two young women reacting to the recent film by Denis Villeneuve, "Dune 2" where Austin-Butler plays the visceral male evil antagonist Feyd-Rautha. A character who is actually psychotic. And yet they both found him very attractive.
It's the same psychological mistake of dependent victims have with their Abuser. They identify themselves and their own strength with the Abuser, but are then unable to see the abuse for what it is, or find their own identity and separate themselves from the abuse.
By the way Dune 2 does an excellent job in regards to how religion can be used to manipulate the masses - as was Frank Herbert's original intent in the series. What's fascinating is how Herbert authentically mixes some psychological known realities (such as precognitive dreams) with unquestioned faith by those duped by the "Lisan Al Gaib" which is embodied in Javier Bardem's Stilgar. The mix of authentic psychological phenomena and spirituality one can find throughout human history - along with the man made manipulation of religious doctrines. In the case of the world of Dune, it is the extremely powerful Bene Gesserit sisterhood who wields the religious power in a cynical, institutionalized fashion.
In regard to the Nazi party in Germany, it's hard for me to understand how a people allowed the type and degree of carnage to be implemented in their name, and not only against the Jews, but Poles, Gypsies, and others. In the US our many wars killed and displaced millions. Initially there was an anti-war movement, opposition, but it died away, and it didn't take long which always surprised me, and almost nothing, under Obama. The Germans learned in their schools, of the many atrocities it's country committed, a good thing, but now they are totally backing Israel. I think everyone can guess why, but no excuse.
"it's hard for me to understand how a people allowed the type and degree of carnage to be implemented in their name" - well, that's what's been happening with the USA, Israel, and the same old Europe. So just take a look around you and you'll know exactly how it was back then in Germany.
Only now it's worse. Back then you could argue they indeed _didn't know_ because they _couldn't know_, on top of _didn't want to know_. Today the former (couldn't) is no longer an excuse. It's the latter all the way. With the same outcome.
I’ve not read or seen “Dune,” but I note, however, the racial/religious/ethnic connections in the words used for positive and negative, as you have explained it.
That may not have been on his mind when he wrote it, but it has become common in our society since, and very intentional.
One of the great Sci-Fi writers - perhaps the best ever, Frank Herbert. I think I've read his Dune series about three times. It was not just the stories and plots and characters he developed from his rich imagination - that were so extraordinary, but his writing quality was brilliant too.
Well, the Satmar Hassidim (largest Hassidic Jewish court) are not found in Israel, as they consider Israel to literally be satanic and will not set foot there.
Google wants to fire all Palestine Aware workers. Columbia will jail you now with your Free Palestine from the River to the Sea poster. Coachella is where all the fucking navel gazing and lobotomizing takes place.
There are a million and one distractions (intentional) this dirty Crony and Corrupt Capitalism dishes out.
Anything but talk about why, how, what, when, where, who, and then, you think families are having real discussions about the dirty dirty dealings of the dirty dirty Jews of Jewish Destroyed and Occupied and Raped and Razed and Polluted Palestine?
Yikes. You don't get the Jewish Projects and Pogroms? BlackRock and Blackstone and Altman. And Ellison and Soros and Zuckerberg and the AI VR MR AR and mRNA projects? Jewish MIC and complex of education surveillance drug pesticide medical mining aerospace finance real estate insurance shekel , they have big big big plans for Goyim.
What country other than Scholz's Germany would want to open its borders and unlock its doors to a culture of Zionism. The Germans are currently the second largest supplier of weapons to Israel in the world, but they have some dealings with Jews decades ago and really should still smarting under the memory of the well publicised Holocaust.
Perhaps it's a case of making up for past deeds? Thanks Chancellor.
One shouldn't ever delude oneself into thinking that the majority of Israelis disagree with Netanyahu and his Nazi-like cabinet.
Even the limited truthful media reports that occasionally find their way out past Netanyahu's media guards show absolute support for the genocide from the residents. I find that quite disturbing because as we all know, there are good Jews. Not many in the USA, naturally, most found hiding behind every Washington doorway, communicating back to their Tel Aviv masters, fulfilling a fully paid government job as pseudo Americans, now slightly older than the neocons back in the Iraqi part -genocide, about the time when the US searched for the non-existent Weapons of Powell's Imagination and Weapons of USA Lies., (same weapons) with that very same Bush still admired in his own murdering country, a country obviously with a very short memory.
So you can't knock the supporting population of Israel without thinking of the same number or more, resident in the USA as "loyal" citizens. Loyal? Dream on.
And of course, as we all know, so much of what we see today in the attitudes and decisions of the feeble Biden is based on his quest to see their influence, their money and their manipulation and bribery supporting him in an election, just seven months away.
Safe bet that the competition between Biden and Trump will depend entirely on the transfer of US dollars to Israel as aid from Biden's unlimited Treasury (Yellen and Co) and then back again to support (control) both candidates in November.
So its not an election for an American President but an election for Israel and which one can sell the USA out more effectively once again for Zionism, not just in New York State and Florida but all the other states as well.
Perhaps to be fair, Netanyahu himself should run as President as well, entirely cutting out the middle man.
The Israelis can all resettle in Germany. Such a befitting ending to this horror show. Since Germany is so guilt ridden to what they’ve done to the Jews in the Holocaust, they should just hand over their best real estate to the Jews of Israel. Job done. Otherwise, German repentance to what they did to the Jews by screwing over the Palestinians is Repentance by Proxy… they should suffer themselves to alleviate the pain of the Jews.. and as a symbolic gesture, they should open their borders to 6 million Israeli Jews, to be resettled in say, all of Bavaria. As for the Bavarians, they can just scuttle over to the next town and seek refuge there. Simple.
Maybe the people of Israel will move to the Ukraine..after all, the Americans have been funding the war there. Once all the fighting Ukrainians have been killed off...the country will need a new people to fill in the space..was it not Khazaria?
You are spot-on that Amerikkka itself caused the wave of current immigrants, most of whom are currently from Venezuela. And Amerikkkan sanctions on Venezuela have absolutely decimated that nation.
I understand what you are saying but, much as I do not want Zionists coming to the U.S., I am sure we can handle them. We are 330,000,000 people. The entire worldwide Jewish population (by all the questionable definitions of how this is counted) is less than 10,000,000. So we have between 5-7 million already. They will change their views if they live here. We are a multiply cultured country, even if Anglos still run the show. And many Israeli citizens are already American.
Not all Jews are Zionists. And at this point a fair number of Israelis are not Zionist anymore either.
Germany's economy is a real mess and their culture is really tied up in knots. What they are doing to pro-Palestinians is pretty wild. I wouldn't recommend anyone emigrate there.
Some are Australian. Some are English. I don't care where they go. There are so few of them and so many of us that they can be absorbed. Some Israelis actually come originally from Arab countries, their first language is Arabic, and they still have family and emotional ties to their Arab home countries. The Arabs COULD stay. They have a fair amount in common with Palestinians (being treated to a handy amount of racism by the Ashkenazi, for one). But I cannot see the Ashkenazi overcoming their "cultural" indoctrination. Maybe they will. Maybe their kids will. Or maybe the grandkids will. How have people adapted to the new realities in South Africa?
The U.S. cannot continue to give Israel money. The dollar is crashing. Inflation is crazy. Minimum wage in 1968, adjusted for inflation, is just below $15 an hour. Think about that. Our minimum wage is half what it was in 1968 in real terms. Because of the income inequality in this country, which supports all these wars. I doubt there's a billionaire in the U.S. that isn't invested in an arms maker.
Societies grow and change. Zionists will grow and change along with everyone else. For one thing, they will inter-marry--out-marry. If they want to stay in Palestine, they need to do some serious soul searching or they won't survive. how do you think they've survived this long? the real amount that the US has funded Israel is much, much, MUCH more than a measly $3.6 billion per year. Israel's credit worthiness has dropped for a second year since Oct. 7th, 2023. We'll see where it is on October 7, 2024.
I just want the U.S. to stop trying to take over the Middle East. And ignorant Zionists need to get out, same as Mossadegh kicked out the British from Iran. The colonialists need to leave.
Poor uptight Germany! Actually, a lot of the Ziopaths, as you call them, come from the US, England, and other places. I don't think we need to worry about where they are going. They each have to make a decision. But the future of the state of Israel is in doubt, in my opinion. It just is not sustainable and now that their neighbors, working together, clearly have a say in the matter--well, if they hadn't turned on everyone and had focused on living peacefully with their neighbors, including in Palestine, they would not be in the (sinking) boat they're in right now. I just wish that boat would hurry up and sink already. Recommend The Electronic Intifada's story on Nadera Shalhoub-Kevorkian today. Watch the embedded video in that story. She's talking about what's happening in East Jerusalem.
I did read that story on EI, but many thanks for bringing it to our attention.
IsraHell is rearranging chairs on a ship that’s goin’ down. It has garnered the hatred of the entire world, with the exception of a few has-beens like Amerikka and Not Great At All Britain.
The hosts are dying. With their deaths go the parasite. Good riddance to them all.
Do you think that would work for America too? That if all the people who want peace and justice left America it would be a better place? Or would it be even freer to commit the atrocities they are having to lie and try to hide or justify currently?
There wouldn't be enough economic activity or military wherewithal to continue these atrocities. The military is having a hard enough time getting enough unemployable naive kids to enlist. We use the arms industry as a way to pump up our economy. Yeah. It probably would work, come to think of it. Think about how many jobs would be unfilled. Zounds.
More than half the country's professors would lose their jobs. Without them, where would the "evidence based" research that supports these dumb ideas Congress comes up with come from? Think about what it would do to the housing market! Rents would be affordable again. IF the peaceniks didn't take their money and assets with them.
We can dream. of course, where would they go?
Everyone who wants peace and justice doesn't need to leave Israel. Just enough to make their economy unsustainable. There are only 5 million people living in Israel, at best. Think about that. That's not many people in today's terms. And a lot of them are not self-supporting. They're being subsidized by the government which is subsidized by American taxpayers.
Of course, that's assuming that all the people who SAY they want peace and justice want it MORE than they want a four-car garage. And a $3 or $4 or however much it costs these days latte every morning. And pizza delivery. And all that jazz.
I don't think it's too much to ask that Israelis stop watering their lawns so that Palestinians have enough potable water to life. The Israeli economy seems to be very similar to the American economy in that it relies on violence and conflict and death to continue. Sobering thought.
This past week someone commented on my latest article, calling me an Antisemite. When I told him I was Jewish, he switched the narrative to calling me a self-hating Jew. I told him: "in the future, at some point, people will look back at this genocide and ask, "how did this happen"? How did the world sit back and allow this". My only hope is that they find the conversation we just had. That will explain much to them about how the world consented".
To think in my State, we citizens must beg our Legislators to pass a Resolution requesting our Congressional to call for a ceasefire in Gaza, to end Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians. If Legislators and Congressional were good human beings, it would already be done, all support of Israel would be nil!
You tell them! LOL
So, what are you going to do about it?
John Zwiebel: Speaking about it IS doing something about it. Don't give in to those who tell you to shut up if you aren't going to DO something about it. Our power lies in our ability and attempts to communicate with and support each other while witnessing the inhuman and wrong wrong wrong goings on of our so called leaders.
But, if you do keep talking expect your doctor, etc to make an attempt on your life, or they loose their license if they don't at least try.
Funny! In light of COVID apparently true
Well said, John. We do what we can, where we can, when we can.
Ignore that Niki and her nasty little head - or whatever it is.
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Hi Susan, these threads and comments and responses are confusing to this newbie to substack.
My apology if I mistook a nasty comment as one from you.
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Ohio Representative Jim Jordan
I am against abuse of children. That would include burning, crushing, dismemberment and starvation.
My best friend was Jewish. Go ahead and roll your eyes at that, but it's true. He was my brother-in-law, older than I by a dozen years, and were best friends and he was my mentor. He was a computer professor at City College in Manhattan.
I post Columbia's Professor Sachs and Max Blumenthal and Greenwald videos on my website.
THEY ARE ALL JEWISH
davidscully.com
I will refrain from responding to comments on my comments.
It gets too confusing and misunderstandings may occur.
Best Regards,
and SAVE THE CHILDREN
We are going to vote out ALL Democrats and ALL Republicans and elect officials who are not war-minded. That is only one step. I wish the elections are today instead of November.
The change in attitude that humanity needs to make is to dump the war-first, hate-first, oppression-is-good mindset, that is going to take lifetimes of work.
Gee, you weren't alive during the '68 Chicago convention were you.
Name anyone other than Dennis Kucinich who has a chance of being elected to office this coming November.
I don't think I know anyone who believes "war-first, hate-first".
They only know either "Trump Bad" or "Biden Bad".
No I wasn't. And we may have a repeat this year in Chicago the way things are going. My point still stands.
Everyone has a chance to be elected, which includes Jill Stein, Dr. Cornell West, Gloria La Riva, Robert Kennedy Jr (even though I don't agree with his politics), etc. are on the ballot. It's going to take a lot more than just me to get Independents elected, that's why I am here encouraging people to do so.
People continually to elect the Duopoly because "no one else ever has a chance" is not solving the problem.
I stopped voting in 2016. I won't list the reasons I don't support any of the names you've listed.
What's "old" is the insistence that voting is going to change anything.
The closest we came (in my life) was Ross Perot in '92. Instead, Clinton came to power and the "Jewish Lobby" blackmailed him.
The attempt to reform has been smashed over and over again, Wolff explains elections since 1916. He later goes on to talk about reform vs revolution. "It's the system".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU-AkeOyiOQ&t=695s
Watch this Aaron Good series and tell me how you're going to remove the "Deep State".
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDAi0NdlN8hNArLl765PXe8tsTKmOciGL
What's old is that every time someone suggests something, it's always shot down.
Voting is a step, not a cure-all, I think I made that clear a number of times.
I'm sorry I'm not God because if I was God the world would be different.
Hi Eddie
I clearly recall the Chicago convention. This time, the people could put the ‘68 one to shame!
At least on Social Media if nothing else!
This might be food for thought for you. I wonder if you will still think we should all shut up and "do something" after you read this
https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/ai-weiwei-censorship-west-china-israel-hamas-war-gaza-1234695044/
I don't believe I ever said people (in general) should "shut up".
I may have said that to a specific person about a specific exchange. (and that might even have been you.
The Ai Weiwei article is a bit more complicated.
Art at that level is often financed for political motivations. He gets rich because he appeals to some patron who interprets his art as supporting that patron's political philosophy. I have no personal experience with seeing his art. I vaguely recall reading about "something" that happened quite some time ago. OTOH, an artist who creates no controversy doesn't get looked at.
I have a few friends who create art I find appealing. They can't help themselves. They're always creating something. Sometimes someone will pay them for it.
Went to the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam once with a friend. He thought it stupid. I thought "OK".
Long way of saying, just because someone is a famous artist that doesn't give his opinion about politics more "weight" than your's or mine.
Yeah, lots of people who used to have a position on "the stage" are being suppressed. What else is new? If I didn't care for what they had to say then, if they haven't changed their minds I don't know why I should care for what they have to say now.
I will acknowledge that they are being suppressed -- welcome to the club.
Pick any profession. Under our current system, if you want to get ahead, you have to sing the tune of the guy with the money. Examples of this are everywhere.
So, what are you going to "do" about it?
Please note I didn't say "shut up".
Please note I didn't say I knew what to do.
Please note I only asked, that since you have a complaint, what are you doing about it.
If the answer is nothing -- OK.
John Zwiebel: your repeated question does not make sense because if people are speaking out in person or in writing, they are doing something. You are asking the question of people who are, in fact, doing something. You seem to be trying to invalidate people. How is that helping anything?
here is another article with more info about his political views. https://daily.jstor.org/ai-weiweis-readymade-politics/ and also what wikipaedia has to say about him. Probably the reason he has become so well known in North America is because of his stated experiences with the previous Chinese government. I have been to one of his exhibitions many years ago. I liked his artwork a lot. I think that there is a lot of criticism about what happens in China and I think it is odd because many of the same issues that existed under Mao Zedong are starting here in North America. Wei Wei's artwork and words help us to see that.
censored .
How would you know of an "official who is not war-minded " ?
https://twitter.com/nico_andretti_/status/1604204546397388800
Look up heir record on voting!
American "presidents " are not elected , but selected. who in the h... would vote for Biden, "who can't walk, can't speak , can't think , can't talk " - D. Trump.
NO they are not elected by the people..I know this.
The DNC/RNC are the purveyors of WISDOM.
Get out your gun and decimate them....I am kidding.
YOU 'my Gypsy' keep well way because you are like me. When I get really angry the 'bull' fights.
SO happy we do not have people with weapons here in France.
I am getting to the point of 'no return!'
STUPID Europe still thinks it needs he USA?
One thing I need to say about the French (often derided) by so many commenters on here we do have the ability to make revolutions happen.
NONE of us are happy.
Revolution here will happen if this moron Macron stays much longer.
voting only tells us who has the most money to spend on propaganda. Much better to look at what people are doing.
Surely you can tell by looking up voting records?
Sure Niki,
I've been listening to dramatic claims like your's for decades.
Most of the people making claims like your's are fronts for the Plutocracy. Bernie Sanders and Ro Khana come immediately to mind.
Let me know when you've actually accomplished something. When the Plutocracy has been overthrown.
What a condescending little bitch brat you are
Spot ON
Pot and Kettle Niki.
Start sorting
And carry on:
Not to worry
Correct…thank you. Onwards.
Yes, don’t let them numb you. Recently I’ve noticed the horrific images on SM are being replaced with posts about Iran/Israel conflict and politics. I deliberately continue to repost the horrific images, even though I’ve had an exceptionally distressing week because the carnage continues. For me, my son, Palestine and teaching job are the centre of my focus…everything else is peripheral.
I can never be content or truly happy while the slaughter continues, nor am I desensitised to the horrors. Yesterday it was a drone with a recording of a baby crying to lure people out for killing. Today, it’s a baby with an amputated hand, fractured arm and face full of stitches. Don’t look away!
That picture was so horrifying. 💔💔💔💔😫😫😫😫
I'm with you Lisa. Thank you for saying it.
Nicole Everett I totally agree with you. The luring drone was the latest that grossed me out for the day. It seems every day I find something more grotesque and inhuman done by the Israelis. I think those acts are what keeps my blood boiling. Then there's US complicity 🤬 The sense that no matter how many Americans say stop the coggs of their wheels keep grinding away in support and defense of these demons. And they're all gleefully doing the bidding of this heinous agenda 🤯😱
So, what are you going to do about it?
Short of revolution........we all write letters/protest. Don't vote for warmongers.
What are YOU doing?
I had no idea Houuz website home style website is israeli owned. Unsubscribe as I did. Encourage others to do the same.
https://www.israelitechalternatives.com/
https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
https://www.mecaforpeace.org/?emci=05768bb1-2083-ee11-8925-00224832e811&emdi=3a641ebe-3583-ee11-8925-00224832e811&ceid=12952821
Thanks Landru.
Been there/Done that/Nothing's changed.
I guess I'm asking,
"How do we start the revolution?"
"What will the goals of the revolution be?"
"Where are we going rather than what are we escaping from?"
"How do we destroy those who oppose us?" (Is "destroy" too strong?)
I confess, I'm afraid. Wolff has an answer to that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU-AkeOyiOQ&t=1453s
Now that's a better choice of words.
At some point there has so be someone who starts the ball rolling by giving a certain date which we can all pass on by e-mail.
Goals of the revolution would be in my opinion massive pacifist resistance to our Govts.
Only you can tell me who you are 'escaping' from.
We are all afraid.
Well, the Democratic National Convention starts 19 Aug and ends 22 Aug. in Chicago.
In preparation you might want to watch the Netflix show, "The Trial of the Chicago 7". Then look up what happened to all of them.
Especially the murder of Fred Hampton.
We should be afraid. They "did something".
Anyone who’s afraid to die for a legitimate cause ain’t worth a hill of beans.
Mr Zwiebel: Have you actually got any ideas or are you just here to try to make others feel worse than they already feel about this situation?
I've stated on dozens of occasions that I haven't a clue about what to do.
I have asked for ideas.
The responses amount to "hope" or "just vote".
Been there. Done that.
The USA has no Mahatma Ghandhi to inspire us, but even his supposedly "peaceful revolution" required a lot of violence (at least according to some recent articles I've read). Which Ghandhi condemned.
I remember the day JFK was shot
I remember the day MLK was shot
I remember the day RFK was shot
I don't have a gun and if I did, I wouldn't know who to aim it at.
America's political leadership isn't the problem, they're just a symptom.
As Einstein said (according to Richard Wolff) "it's the question!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU-AkeOyiOQ&t=4737s
So I'm hammering at defining the question that needs to be answered.
As Wolff says, allowing the system to remain leads to defeat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU-AkeOyiOQ&t=2206s
I am not responsible for how others feel about the situation. Whether they "do" something or not is their individual choice. I'm certainly NOT telling anyone what to "do" because I have no idea what to do. I'm asking for clues that go beyond what we're doing here.
israel has destroyed itself financially. GDP down 26% already and headed lower.
We need to continue to promote the BDS movement.
As well as provide the people there with additional funding.
https://www.mecaforpeace.org/?emci=05768bb1-2083-ee11-8925-00224832e811&emdi=3a641ebe-3583-ee11-8925-00224832e811&ceid=12952821
May I recommend this interview with Joti Brar? Starting about 15 minutes for about 10 minutes she explains that Israel is a "settler colony" of the USA. Much like Ulster was such for Britain. It is the best explanation I've ever heard of why Israel even exits. The claims that Netanyahu just does what he wants are totally bogus. He's doing what the American Plutocracy wants. The very best thing anyone can do for the Palestinians is to destroy the American Plutocracy. IOW the criminals are here in the USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2ID9FB-FA
https://www.israelitechalternatives.com/
https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
Vote...
Speak out and raise awareness. (maybe you can do something in your job? - I can and I do)
Talk to young people about the future - what kind of world do they want?
Boycott whatever you can - E.g. does your super fund invest in weapons companies?
Join your union - (we're currently putting a motion forward to boycott STEM programs funded by weapons companies)
Support the BDS movement.
Write to your MP's - don't let them censor social media and introduce bills that will stifle free speech.
Write to government run media - why aren't they reporting the truth? Pressure!
Strike / protest / disrupt.
Read / learn...
Don't give up hope...
1st you can stop stating the obvious like a condescending ass
Obviously a bot
https://www.israelitechalternatives.com/
The world is not meant to forget THIS;
NO,
Not at
ALL.
"The more westerners can be psychologically shoved into throwing up their hands and filing Gaza away in our mental “bad things in the world I try not to think about” drawer, the easier it is for Israel and its imperial backers to do the monstrous things they want to do there."
Orwell wrote in 1984, “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” This is why we can't let these sociopaths control what we think and feel TODAY. It's key to understanding and empathizing with the history of the Palestinian people, and it's key to building a brighter future for everyone on this sorry rock orbiting the sun. Take charge of your today and your thoughts and feelings--and don't let anyone ever manipulate or attempt to take them away from you.
We honor our ancestors when we don't forget what all they suffered for us to be here. We protect our children's future when we share our history with them today.
I think we are living in some version of Orwell’s 1984.. if you think about it, we’ve always been living in 1984. We are given Coca Cola to numb our senses so the bombs can fall elsewhere..
So, what are you going to do about it?
stuck on repeat are you? you could change the record. That's what you could do about it.
I'm certainly trying, but change it to what?
So you’re just as clueless as the next person, John..
I know what to do, but not how to sell it.
If the US really wanted to complete economically it would:
tax the billionaires
shutter the CIA
close the NED
close down the NSA
clean out the FBI
require BS degrees for police with at least a year of training like in Europe
destroy the "blob" returning power to elected politicians.
real campaign finance reform.
subsidize more political parties removing the Republicrat monopoly
destroy the "Jewish Lobby" ADL and APAIC
stop financing Israel
prosecute the criminal plutocrats who have made billions selling drugs
reinstate Glass-Steagall
break up Black Rock and Black Stone, actually confiscating their wealth.
creating a Public Bank like the Bank of North Dakota
shutter the Fed
clawing back the fraudulent payments made to incompetent financial managers going all the way back to Silverado Savings and Loan up to Silicon Valley Bank
prosecute Hunter Biden for corruption -- put him, and his coconspirators in jail
nationalize Boeing, removing its current management, prosecuting them for fraud, put them in jail
shutter at least 700 of the 800 military bases scattered around the world
leave Syria and Iraq
leave Taiwan
remove itself from NATO
walk away from Ukraine
stop fomenting revolutions around the world which creates refugees that migrate to the USA
remove sanctions against Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, et. al.
apologize for the weaponization of SWIFT, work with the BRICS to win them back
free all frozen currency reserves
refocus on American citizens as China has done by eliminating extreme poverty.
invest in American Infrastructure: high-speed rail, highways, bridges
refocus on well-managed industrial capitalism
reverse the financialization of the US economy
stop using American agriculture to destroy foreign economies
forgive all student debt
implement universal basic income
pay teachers more
tax Yale, Harvard and the rest of the Ivy League
tax the Church
free college for anyone and everyone (China graduates 8x the STEM degrees as the USA)
give up nuclear weapons
break up the vertical and horizontal monopolies
force the sale of the NYT, WaPo, etc so they aren't owned by Plutocrats
free the internet
reform copyright law to limit the time a copyright is enforced
combat the Plutocrats definition of IP and stop patenting everything
subsidize co-ops giving more decision power to the employees
any company that wants to move to a new location must first have the community approve it or sell to the community.
shutdown private equity which buys companies, strips all their assets, makes them bankrupt
return the retirement funds stolen by private equity to the employees who were defrauded
this is a very short list
"I know what to do, but not how to sell it." - by "sell it" you mean for people to agree to your points?
It looks like majority agree with all or almost all of what you've listed. So the problem is not selling, it's implementing. Which is next to impossible because of the real nature of the system where people have no power. They have an illusion of power through the fake notions of "freedom" and "democracy".
Take any one item from the list, try to think about implementation, and get stuck immediately.
https://www.mecaforpeace.org/donate/
https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
https://www.shoppalestine.org/collections/palestine-solidarity?page=5
https://www.codepink.org/medea_benjamin
I cry when I see a photo of Medea doing what I fail to do.
Medea is with a cargo ship taking food to Palestine where Genocide Joe is still thinking about a dock he might build. Vote NO on Genocide Joe.
https://www.israelitechalternatives.com/
https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
https://www.shoppalestine.org/collections/palestine-solidarity?page=5
https://www.mecaforpeace.org/donate/
Code Pink is delivering a ship filled with food to the coast of Palestine rather than be blocked at the gates. A donation to Code Pink would also be helpful. Medea is an amazing person.
In all honesty Caitlin, sitting comfortably in my living room, sometimes I feel I couldn't handle anymore of this cortisol levels caused by this constant barrage of horrors we're seeing/reading about for about seven months now, till I remember that the people in Palestine have been enduring the real-life horrors for over 75 years now, and some reporters, activists and historians have devoted a significant portion of their lives on this issue. Makes one feel like a woose.
Thank you Caitlin. Just as your powerful poetry about the children of Gaza dared us not to forget, your Newsletter today challenges us not to look away. A relentless grief of six months have passed for the people of Gaza. What is our shock and horror as mere onlookers compared to their suffering. Your Newsletter (and our comments for whatever they are worth ) helps enormously for bearing witness and telling the truth of a tragedy, a tragedy like never before - from losing its impact; from making it normal. Keeping the Israel/US/West accountable for a genocide.
Hopefully this alternative to the mass of propaganda, will contribute in creating a groundswell of opinion and protests and influence. And a foundation for further action.
The people of Gaza needs us to care and empathise and be compassionate. It is the least we can do.
So, what are you going to do about it?
You tell me John Zwiebel, what are we going to do about it. In my case it is to open my heart to the suffering of the Palestinians - a fat lot of good that will do, I hear you say - and hope for a world revolution where there is no white supremacy, no US hegemony, no capitalism, no oligarchical rule, no greed, hatred and delusion, a multipolar world where there is mutual respect and harmony among nations.
Well, John, I’m personally emailing my reps every day (yeah, I know, fat chance they’ll listen) and I personally am voting for the Green Party nominee Jill Stein.
I offered to off myself on the WH steps if several others would join me; an even dozen would draw some attention.
Are you in?
An interesting suggestion. I'm surprised at my reaction to it. I'm not really suicidal. Hard for me to understand how I feel so impossible to explain.
You sound like an LLM
Why didn't Aaron Bushnell think of an idea that he'd only burn himself if several others joined him? I bet he'd still be with us today.
Strength in numbers, RB.
It’s doubtful that Aaron could have found several others willing to self-immolate; that takes a sort of bravery that I myself do not possess, and there’s very little I’m afraid of.
However, if I could save the life of a single Palestinian child by putting a bullet in my head, I would do so.
I’ll pick up my gauntlet if you will do the same.
I think its a massive victory to continue to care.
"I think its a massive victory to continue to care."
You're kidding...right?
Caring helps us rise above.
You do it so well.
"So I do what I can to help keep the reality of what’s happening in Gaza on the surface, not just in terms of the factual truth but the emotional truth of it as well. The horror. The suffering."
Thank you for your daily writings on the horrors that are happening to the Palestinians. Some days it’s hard to read again what they are enduring, but read about it we must.
"Feel the grief. Feel the outrage. Feel the anger. Feel the pain."
Indeed.
I do.
Or distract you with trumpian histrionics.
The 2024 Oscar winning film The Zone of Interest focuses on the happy and cheerful German bourgeois life created by the family of Auschwitz Camp Commander Rudolf Hess. Meanwhile thousands are being murdered and cremated just the other side of their garden wall with almost no intrusion on their bucolic existence.
Meanwhile in Australia this genocide in Gaza goes relatively unreported until an Australian aid worker is killed by the Israeli Defence Force. Their approved and clearly identified convoy was "accidentally" bombed not once, but three times.
So back to the movie and what it says about people's astounding ability to ignore daily horrors when we should be outraged and demanding that they stop. Go and see it and check out your own empathy levels for all those suffering from the many unjust wars and invasions around the planet.
And let’s not forget the director’s powerful statement at the Oscar’s against using the holocaust to justify Israeli actions.
Interesting…watched it last night. Respect to Glazer. More on that, and on the human themes Caitlin talks about here https://open.substack.com/pub/nizamixiii/p/the-white-screen-of-death
"Don’t let them take that away from you. Feelings are meant to be felt. Feel the grief. Feel the outrage. Feel the anger. Feel the pain."
Caitlin sets a good example expressing their feelings through poetry. I've tried writing some poetry and it helped gather together some of the grief and anger I'm feeling about what's happening in Palestine. I even wrote a short short story recently to express what my deepest hopes are... We can't let the bastards grind us down. We have to remember and record our feelings, even the painful ones.
"The Miracle" (a short short story) https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/the-miracle
Thank you for your unrelenting commitment and strength Caitlin, without which it would be difficult for us to sustain the rage we need in sympathy with Palestine. The drivel from the pathetic media here in Aotearoa is as maddening as you described.
The embodiment of Evil, Schindler's List: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZMNmQwNdiq0
I wonder if there will be any Oskar Schindlers in this genocide implemented by Israel. Right now you have an Israeli public disturbingly silent as to what is happening in their own backyard on a people whose land they reside in as a result of European prejudice and a genocide implemented on their own people, But then again it is consistent with their history when one thinks of Nakba in 1948. .
it is their public statements that have disturbed me the most, as seen in the videos of the settlers blocking food shipments to Gaza. As far as I can tell, a large majority of Israelis either support Netanyahu or think he is not being aggressive enough toward the Palestinians.
Hiya, interesting point. I don't know much about Schindler but he appeared to have protected his factory workers (whose labour he was also making a living from) because he knew them like human beings 'I knew the people who worked for me. When you know people, you have to behave towards them like human beings.'
People regard their pets very differently to how they see 'animals'. During the 'foot and mouth' debacle some sheep farmers were also so connected with their animals that tried to protect their flocks by having them live inside their houses; they weren't just pieces of meat to them.
I don't think Palestinians work in the occupied areas any more, I think it is mostly migrant Indian workers who now do the heavy lifting, shitty jobs.
The whole mind set of anyone going to live in 'Israel', a supremacist settler colony in West Asia (and not a multiethnic European State such as Germany) would not be compatible with viewing Palestinians working for them as human beings nor to want to risk anything trying to protect them.
Well, I know there are Arabs who live within Israel, and make up a significant part of the population but I don't think they are treated with any real sense of equality. No doubt poorer, less education and don't play any significant role in the political arena, and probably face a lot of discrimination. I don't know whether they are Palestinians. Well, Gallant did reference them as animals, and I have no doubt they are perceived as inferior to the the Jewish people. Now they have made that really obvious in broad day light. In 1948 they implemented the Nakba, killed some 70, 80 thousand people and sent hundreds of thousands elsewhere which reflects their attitude from the beginning. It's not that intellectually I cannot grasp the concept of genocide, one is going on now in the Sudan, but every day I go to Aljazeera and I see the pictures and it is almost impossible for me to comprehend. The horror, the horror and this is something you cannot forgive. They are making a concerted effort to exterminate these people, or as many as possible. They want them gone. This goes beyond my forgiveness, and I won't forgive my government for making it all possible. Never. As they say they are beyond redemption.
Very different from any farmer I know. A more unsentimental bunch is hard to find.
Feral, we have friends who are dairy farmers and they treat their cows like family members.
Same goes for our neighbors who raise sheep for their wool.
Hi Jo
Not to mention the forced sterilizations of BLACK AFRICAN IsraHelli citizens! 🤬
It would be hard to imagine there not being at least one.
I'm sure there is at least one, but the uprising you read about were all about getting rid of Netanyahu, but not due to the genocide he and his party are implementing. I have always found this disturbing, not to mention the Israeli's who make it their business to try and stop food and aid supplies from reaching the people. No one references this, deals with it, talks about it.
There is more than one brave Israeli speaking out as best they can: Gideon Levy, Omer Cassif, Amira Hass, and others, I am sure. Also Israeli organizations such as Gush Shalom, and B’Tselem. All of whom could probably use more support right now.
I'm not saying there are no Israeli's,speaking out against this, but the majority of Israeli's are not. In an interview shown on Aljazeera, one of those interviewed, a Israeli journalist, referenced this fact. The coverage seems to indicate there is not, and I think it would be good for Israel if people made their voices heard in this regard. In America as well.
Yes. The Nazi party and Hitler were also enormously popular in Germany. I think part of it may be the psychological mistake people can make by identifying "Strength" with perhaps visceral, naked male brutality. Was watching a youtube video just the other day of two young women reacting to the recent film by Denis Villeneuve, "Dune 2" where Austin-Butler plays the visceral male evil antagonist Feyd-Rautha. A character who is actually psychotic. And yet they both found him very attractive.
It's the same psychological mistake of dependent victims have with their Abuser. They identify themselves and their own strength with the Abuser, but are then unable to see the abuse for what it is, or find their own identity and separate themselves from the abuse.
By the way Dune 2 does an excellent job in regards to how religion can be used to manipulate the masses - as was Frank Herbert's original intent in the series. What's fascinating is how Herbert authentically mixes some psychological known realities (such as precognitive dreams) with unquestioned faith by those duped by the "Lisan Al Gaib" which is embodied in Javier Bardem's Stilgar. The mix of authentic psychological phenomena and spirituality one can find throughout human history - along with the man made manipulation of religious doctrines. In the case of the world of Dune, it is the extremely powerful Bene Gesserit sisterhood who wields the religious power in a cynical, institutionalized fashion.
Interesting, give me some time to absorb it, and I'll get back to you.
In regard to the Nazi party in Germany, it's hard for me to understand how a people allowed the type and degree of carnage to be implemented in their name, and not only against the Jews, but Poles, Gypsies, and others. In the US our many wars killed and displaced millions. Initially there was an anti-war movement, opposition, but it died away, and it didn't take long which always surprised me, and almost nothing, under Obama. The Germans learned in their schools, of the many atrocities it's country committed, a good thing, but now they are totally backing Israel. I think everyone can guess why, but no excuse.
"it's hard for me to understand how a people allowed the type and degree of carnage to be implemented in their name" - well, that's what's been happening with the USA, Israel, and the same old Europe. So just take a look around you and you'll know exactly how it was back then in Germany.
Only now it's worse. Back then you could argue they indeed _didn't know_ because they _couldn't know_, on top of _didn't want to know_. Today the former (couldn't) is no longer an excuse. It's the latter all the way. With the same outcome.
I’ve not read or seen “Dune,” but I note, however, the racial/religious/ethnic connections in the words used for positive and negative, as you have explained it.
That may not have been on his mind when he wrote it, but it has become common in our society since, and very intentional.
One of the great Sci-Fi writers - perhaps the best ever, Frank Herbert. I think I've read his Dune series about three times. It was not just the stories and plots and characters he developed from his rich imagination - that were so extraordinary, but his writing quality was brilliant too.
L. Ron Hubbard of course his work is filled with the same. And of course Scientology there is that.
There is an interesting story about a bet between Hubbard and Heinlein about starting Scientology. I am not sure it's not just a story about a story.
Well, the Satmar Hassidim (largest Hassidic Jewish court) are not found in Israel, as they consider Israel to literally be satanic and will not set foot there.
Google wants to fire all Palestine Aware workers. Columbia will jail you now with your Free Palestine from the River to the Sea poster. Coachella is where all the fucking navel gazing and lobotomizing takes place.
There are a million and one distractions (intentional) this dirty Crony and Corrupt Capitalism dishes out.
https://paulokirk.substack.com/p/google-tells-me-to-go-backstage-at
Anything but talk about why, how, what, when, where, who, and then, you think families are having real discussions about the dirty dirty dealings of the dirty dirty Jews of Jewish Destroyed and Occupied and Raped and Razed and Polluted Palestine?
https://paulokirk.substack.com/p/google-tells-me-to-go-backstage-at
Where are they going to put us when the whole world rises up?
Yikes. You don't get the Jewish Projects and Pogroms? BlackRock and Blackstone and Altman. And Ellison and Soros and Zuckerberg and the AI VR MR AR and mRNA projects? Jewish MIC and complex of education surveillance drug pesticide medical mining aerospace finance real estate insurance shekel , they have big big big plans for Goyim.
Israeli Professor Lee Mordechai is documenting the horrors in Gaza. His second tweet in this thread links to the pdf.
https://x.com/leemordechai/status/1780034934444331325?s=46&t=y6oNMuRlA05SmDXZA1sw4Q
The best thing he can do for Palestine is to leave Israel permanently. If enough people leave, it will implode.
The question is, Nosey, where do they go.
What country other than Scholz's Germany would want to open its borders and unlock its doors to a culture of Zionism. The Germans are currently the second largest supplier of weapons to Israel in the world, but they have some dealings with Jews decades ago and really should still smarting under the memory of the well publicised Holocaust.
Perhaps it's a case of making up for past deeds? Thanks Chancellor.
One shouldn't ever delude oneself into thinking that the majority of Israelis disagree with Netanyahu and his Nazi-like cabinet.
Even the limited truthful media reports that occasionally find their way out past Netanyahu's media guards show absolute support for the genocide from the residents. I find that quite disturbing because as we all know, there are good Jews. Not many in the USA, naturally, most found hiding behind every Washington doorway, communicating back to their Tel Aviv masters, fulfilling a fully paid government job as pseudo Americans, now slightly older than the neocons back in the Iraqi part -genocide, about the time when the US searched for the non-existent Weapons of Powell's Imagination and Weapons of USA Lies., (same weapons) with that very same Bush still admired in his own murdering country, a country obviously with a very short memory.
So you can't knock the supporting population of Israel without thinking of the same number or more, resident in the USA as "loyal" citizens. Loyal? Dream on.
And of course, as we all know, so much of what we see today in the attitudes and decisions of the feeble Biden is based on his quest to see their influence, their money and their manipulation and bribery supporting him in an election, just seven months away.
Safe bet that the competition between Biden and Trump will depend entirely on the transfer of US dollars to Israel as aid from Biden's unlimited Treasury (Yellen and Co) and then back again to support (control) both candidates in November.
So its not an election for an American President but an election for Israel and which one can sell the USA out more effectively once again for Zionism, not just in New York State and Florida but all the other states as well.
Perhaps to be fair, Netanyahu himself should run as President as well, entirely cutting out the middle man.
The Israelis can all resettle in Germany. Such a befitting ending to this horror show. Since Germany is so guilt ridden to what they’ve done to the Jews in the Holocaust, they should just hand over their best real estate to the Jews of Israel. Job done. Otherwise, German repentance to what they did to the Jews by screwing over the Palestinians is Repentance by Proxy… they should suffer themselves to alleviate the pain of the Jews.. and as a symbolic gesture, they should open their borders to 6 million Israeli Jews, to be resettled in say, all of Bavaria. As for the Bavarians, they can just scuttle over to the next town and seek refuge there. Simple.
How about letting all s. American migrants into the US....their land has been changed by multiple coup d'etats and war courtesy of the USA.
Germany is currently banning all criticism of Iz and any pro-Pal expression. Sounds like a great place now for Israelis to emmigrate to.
An excellent idea, Lisa
Creative thinking. How about a crown funding for air fares?
Maybe the people of Israel will move to the Ukraine..after all, the Americans have been funding the war there. Once all the fighting Ukrainians have been killed off...the country will need a new people to fill in the space..was it not Khazaria?
Yes, ZelBoy said he wanted Ukrainazia to be a “big Israel”. Sounds like the perfect place for the Ziopaths!
Sorry Gypsy but this is a US problem.....how about Texas.
Hi Jenny
You are spot-on that Amerikkka itself caused the wave of current immigrants, most of whom are currently from Venezuela. And Amerikkkan sanctions on Venezuela have absolutely decimated that nation.
We must put the blame on who deserves the blame.
I understand what you are saying but, much as I do not want Zionists coming to the U.S., I am sure we can handle them. We are 330,000,000 people. The entire worldwide Jewish population (by all the questionable definitions of how this is counted) is less than 10,000,000. So we have between 5-7 million already. They will change their views if they live here. We are a multiply cultured country, even if Anglos still run the show. And many Israeli citizens are already American.
Not all Jews are Zionists. And at this point a fair number of Israelis are not Zionist anymore either.
Germany's economy is a real mess and their culture is really tied up in knots. What they are doing to pro-Palestinians is pretty wild. I wouldn't recommend anyone emigrate there.
Some are Australian. Some are English. I don't care where they go. There are so few of them and so many of us that they can be absorbed. Some Israelis actually come originally from Arab countries, their first language is Arabic, and they still have family and emotional ties to their Arab home countries. The Arabs COULD stay. They have a fair amount in common with Palestinians (being treated to a handy amount of racism by the Ashkenazi, for one). But I cannot see the Ashkenazi overcoming their "cultural" indoctrination. Maybe they will. Maybe their kids will. Or maybe the grandkids will. How have people adapted to the new realities in South Africa?
The U.S. cannot continue to give Israel money. The dollar is crashing. Inflation is crazy. Minimum wage in 1968, adjusted for inflation, is just below $15 an hour. Think about that. Our minimum wage is half what it was in 1968 in real terms. Because of the income inequality in this country, which supports all these wars. I doubt there's a billionaire in the U.S. that isn't invested in an arms maker.
Societies grow and change. Zionists will grow and change along with everyone else. For one thing, they will inter-marry--out-marry. If they want to stay in Palestine, they need to do some serious soul searching or they won't survive. how do you think they've survived this long? the real amount that the US has funded Israel is much, much, MUCH more than a measly $3.6 billion per year. Israel's credit worthiness has dropped for a second year since Oct. 7th, 2023. We'll see where it is on October 7, 2024.
I just want the U.S. to stop trying to take over the Middle East. And ignorant Zionists need to get out, same as Mossadegh kicked out the British from Iran. The colonialists need to leave.
Hi Nosey
If Germany is such a shithole, that’s where the Ziopaths belong. They should have appropriated land there all along.
Poor uptight Germany! Actually, a lot of the Ziopaths, as you call them, come from the US, England, and other places. I don't think we need to worry about where they are going. They each have to make a decision. But the future of the state of Israel is in doubt, in my opinion. It just is not sustainable and now that their neighbors, working together, clearly have a say in the matter--well, if they hadn't turned on everyone and had focused on living peacefully with their neighbors, including in Palestine, they would not be in the (sinking) boat they're in right now. I just wish that boat would hurry up and sink already. Recommend The Electronic Intifada's story on Nadera Shalhoub-Kevorkian today. Watch the embedded video in that story. She's talking about what's happening in East Jerusalem.
Hi Nosey
I did read that story on EI, but many thanks for bringing it to our attention.
IsraHell is rearranging chairs on a ship that’s goin’ down. It has garnered the hatred of the entire world, with the exception of a few has-beens like Amerikka and Not Great At All Britain.
The hosts are dying. With their deaths go the parasite. Good riddance to them all.
Do you think that would work for America too? That if all the people who want peace and justice left America it would be a better place? Or would it be even freer to commit the atrocities they are having to lie and try to hide or justify currently?
There wouldn't be enough economic activity or military wherewithal to continue these atrocities. The military is having a hard enough time getting enough unemployable naive kids to enlist. We use the arms industry as a way to pump up our economy. Yeah. It probably would work, come to think of it. Think about how many jobs would be unfilled. Zounds.
More than half the country's professors would lose their jobs. Without them, where would the "evidence based" research that supports these dumb ideas Congress comes up with come from? Think about what it would do to the housing market! Rents would be affordable again. IF the peaceniks didn't take their money and assets with them.
We can dream. of course, where would they go?
Everyone who wants peace and justice doesn't need to leave Israel. Just enough to make their economy unsustainable. There are only 5 million people living in Israel, at best. Think about that. That's not many people in today's terms. And a lot of them are not self-supporting. They're being subsidized by the government which is subsidized by American taxpayers.
Of course, that's assuming that all the people who SAY they want peace and justice want it MORE than they want a four-car garage. And a $3 or $4 or however much it costs these days latte every morning. And pizza delivery. And all that jazz.
I don't think it's too much to ask that Israelis stop watering their lawns so that Palestinians have enough potable water to life. The Israeli economy seems to be very similar to the American economy in that it relies on violence and conflict and death to continue. Sobering thought.
This past week someone commented on my latest article, calling me an Antisemite. When I told him I was Jewish, he switched the narrative to calling me a self-hating Jew. I told him: "in the future, at some point, people will look back at this genocide and ask, "how did this happen"? How did the world sit back and allow this". My only hope is that they find the conversation we just had. That will explain much to them about how the world consented".
Thank you to the Brave students of Columbia standing in the face of Genocidal Power. Aaron Bushnell, Yemen, Iran, Lebanon and South Africa heroes all.