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thewaterdiviner's avatar

I think suppressing free speech and peaceful demonstrations is more likely going to increase anti-Semitism. We'd do better to stop supplying the IDF with arms and recognising the genocide.

Brianna Amore's avatar

Exactly. Do they not understand that suppressing people's free speech in the name of Israel only INCREASES resentment?

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Jeeze! All that talk about "free speech" made my ankle hurt...

David Avenell's avatar

Your having a sore ankle makes me feel unsafe. Stop it.

I'm now afraid of my refrigerator.

David Baird's avatar

So you should be, David. All that stuff about 'freeze peach' is disturbing. And as a devout, fundamentalist Calathumpian, I feel unsafe at the undue and serious influence the Jewish lobby has on our pollies and mainstream media. The Nazionists are effectively running too many allegedly free and independent states and it's scaring the shit out of me.

David Avenell's avatar

My greatest worry is I might open the fridge door and find there's no coldies left.

thewaterdiviner's avatar

If you have a smart refrigerator you should be. It's contents are in a file somewhere in the cloud.

Kermit O's avatar

Look at you, using reason and common sense, and appealing to a basic standard of human decency. How silly.

X K's avatar

When are people finally gonna wake up and realize that the sun has been rising in the West for decades now...? What do the media, the government have to do to convince them?

robyn cuming's avatar

Be honest. And keep being honest. The media needs genuine investigative journalism that invites trust. Based on receipts.

Landru's avatar

Should your analogy read realize the sun has been setting in the West for decades now? The Empire does have limits as all other Empires in history had. The math says the Sun is setting on the West. For the world I assume that is a good thing although the chaos in the loss of pretend hegemony will be war if history repeats.

X K's avatar

Left it for someone like you to pick up on, well done. The historical average length of time for an empire is 250 years. This July 4th is America's 250th - and thus conceivably last - anniversary. You might be interested in "The Once and Future World Order: Why Global Civilization Will Survive the Decline of the West" by Amitav Acharya.

Landru's avatar

Thank you for the info. I will check that out, literally : )

Davina's avatar

If British jews were semites, which they are not, nor are israeli jews semites. The only semites are the Arabs who speak a semite language and that includes Palestinians, but definitely not israeli jews, who are Europeans with a few other groups thrown in though certainly none are Semitic.

The sooner zionist jews are banned from claiming and using that word to get sympathy the better this world would be, and then the actual semitic people can use it against israel and for once it would be a legal use of "antisemitic" when israel attacks Palestinians.

dale ruff's avatar

your comment is both wrong and falsely framed: Semitic is a linguistic term and so Jews who speak Hebrew (virtually all in Israel, few in the UK or US) are Semites while Jews not speaking Hebrew (or Arabic, a semitic language) are not semitic in the scientific sense. if we fudge and look at the fiction of 'race' the picture changes: "Big picture (all Jews in Israel)

Roughly speaking, across Jewish populations:

~40–60% Levantine / Middle Eastern–related ancestry

The rest varies (European, North African, etc.)

That’s why geneticists say Jews are a diaspora population with shared Levantine roots, not a single “race.”

X K's avatar

"... but definitely not israeli jews, who are Europeans with a few other groups thrown in though certainly none are Semitic."

The Zionist motto: do whatever you have to do, exploit whatever you have to exploit, ignore whatever rules you have to ignore, to support the project.

David Baird's avatar

Damn right, Davina! Again! This why the conman Netanyahu ditched the family name, the Polish 'Mileikowski'. Kind of missing that Semitic ring, eh.

Feral Finster's avatar

This is entirely intentional. It's a self-licking ice cream cone.

As long as antisemitism remains low-status, this works out beautifully for Zionists.

robyn cuming's avatar

Absolutely. Because we’d all be blaming Israeli propaganda promoted by Jewish extremists who cannot understand why good people would want to stop genocide and ethnic cleansing and the constant wars based on blasphemous greed.

dale ruff's avatar

I would suggest it will increase skepticism about claims of anti-Semitism, a term that has already lost much credibility. Just recently 80% of Dems voted for the Sanders bill to stop arming Israel. If Dems take control, it will likely be able to pass the bill (100% of Repubs voted against the bill) which would then be vetoed by Trump but weaken him immensely, pressuring him to reign in the Israelis; then if a progressive Dem is elected President, the bill could become law. It's a ways off but there aren't any other realistic scenarios.

Feral Finster's avatar

And watch Team D change its tune, once Team D is back in the Oval Office.

We already saw this in Yemen.

Landru's avatar

With the Duopoly so pro war, I think this will only end when Iran ends it. Soon people will say What was israel.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

What about the feelings of Palestinians who are being massacred? Why is this never brought up? Or the feelings of those who object to what Israel is doing to Palestinians and the powerful of our countries who support Israel? Are only some feelings legitimate?

And here's a new one I recently heard: genocide is a partisan issue. Here in Canada there's one party that clearly names Israel's genocide in Gaza and objects strongly to it. In case you're curious, it's the NDP (New Democratic Party), now led by Avi Lewis.

Mike Coulson's avatar

Caitlin frequently compares the feelings of Jews who think they’re in danger to those of Palestinians who really are, and I applaud her for doing so 👏👏

Diana van Eyk's avatar

I appreciate Caitlin for this too, Mike. The remark wasn't directed at her, but at the people who feel so sorry for Israelis and their hurt feelings.

Davina's avatar

I don't believe for a second that a people brought up to see themselves as being superior to all other religions, can feel anything remotely like "hurt feelings" because they all act as though the nothing can touch them. They try to force themselves on countries that have told them clearly not to come there, but they will arrive just to start a fight.

Take away, or stop, supplying them with weapons of destruction, then you will see hurt feelings, and feeling unsafe. As long as they think they own the US, they never ever will feel unsafe. Take that away and they become as vulnerable as the rest of us, though it may take a wee while for it to sink in that their grip on the US is gone. Right now that's a possibility because their usefulness in the area is fading fast.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

I wonder if people who see themselves as superior and the rest of us as amalek, the way Zionists and the Epstein class do, actually care what we think. It seems like one big performance so they can keep getting away with their horrible, plunderous behaviour. I can't imagine what they actually feel like, but then I'm not a predator.

Brianna Amore's avatar

Apparently Israelis are allowed to massacre Palestinians because of the Holocaust. Because two wrongs apparently always make a right.

CK's avatar

How many Palestinians were committing genocide in Poland and Germany in the time between WWI and the end of WWII?

Davina's avatar

But they are taking their revenge on the wrong people, which proves they are really cowards under their bravado. Can you imagine them picking a fight with Germany? Thought not.

Brianna Amore's avatar

The abused become the abusers. And behind every bully is a coward.

Duane McPherson's avatar

And preceding every bully is another bully. The one (or many) who abused the current bully. And yes, every bully is a person who has been beaten down to a low level.

Feral Finster's avatar

Only when the favored are doing the wronging.

CK's avatar
May 3Edited

The mainstream mass media is owned by a very few billionaires who have their own agenda for maximizing profits. They have very close ties/investment in the defense contractors and the fossil fuels industries.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

+100 likes. No one seems to notice the agenda is complete bullshit designed to justify corporate/fascist dictate. "Mainstream media" all follow dictate of Associated Press cue cards. No one is concerned about AP associations to racketeering and corporate franchise. Let's talk about antisemitism instead.

Note how the AP is allegedly 'an American not-for-profit news agency headquartered in New York City. Founded in 1846, it operates as a cooperative, unincorporated association, and produces news reports that are distributed to its members, major U.S. daily newspapers and radio and television broadcasters.' [According to Wikipedia (Pfffttt!) whitewash]

narjis of many camels's avatar

My "feelings", in fact my mental health and entire sense of humanity has been completely devastated by this genocide and the western media's gaslighting about it, but no one gives a fuck about my feelings since I'm not jewish.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

Lots of Jewish and non-Jewish people feel the same way, Narjis. Witnessing this genocide is devastating, and if it weren't for the Epstein class supporting it, it would have been stopped long ago.

Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

It is antisemitic for us gentile folk to have feelings. Didn't you know?

Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

It is antisemitic for gentiles to have feelings, and downright terrorism for Palestinians to have feelings.

David Baird's avatar

The state of Israel regards the Palestinians as undeserving 'untermensch', as the Nazis did with regard to Jews. Jews clearly have had a collective irony by-pass.

dale ruff's avatar

this will piss a lot of haters off but I will quote prominent Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans on the suffering of the Palestinians:

1) "On July 25, 2024, during a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Kamala Harris delivered strong remarks regarding the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, stating she would not be silent about the suffering of Palestinians. Harris emphasized that she "will not be silent" regarding the "devastating" images of suffering in Gaza, noting the need to address the death of innocent civilian She stated, "It is time for this war to end,"

2"Bernie Sanders says it's time to stop ignoring 'the suffering of the Palestinian people'" in 2020, having since 1988 proposed conditioning US support for Israel on their treatment of Palestinians. Now he has called it genocide, and works to stop arming Israel. He is the most trusted and approved active politician in the US.

3. AOC, 3d most approved, called out genocide in early 2024,

4 80% of Dems voted to support the Sanders bill to stop arming Israel.

5. 66% of Democratic voters find Israel guilty of genocide.

CK's avatar

What did Kamala Harris do to stop the flow of weapons of mass destruction to Israel? Did she smack her senile and demented partner upside his head, or did she promise to continue his policies and support for the Israelis?

What’s that you say? The VPOTUS has no power? That didn’t stop VPOTUS Dick Cheney during his time in the Oval Office. Cheney launched illegal wars against Afghanistan and Iraq.

MM's avatar

She also said she wouldn't do anything different from Genocide Joe were she to have been elected President.

CK's avatar

And several millions of voters believed her and consequently refused to vote for her.

dale ruff's avatar

My point is this: don't reject taking yes for an answer when the tide turns in our favor. Don't dismiss the change in direction and thus deny the possibility of change. To do so ("Both parties hate Palestine, support genocide..." etc) is to prefer the claim of victimhood over the opportunity to gain power and stop the victimizers. Lend a hand or get out out of the way, the times they are a changin in...that is my point, which I have documented.

Feral Finster's avatar

It bears asking you again - would you vote for a genuine antiwar Team R candidate or a prowar Team D candidate?

It's a simple question and you have been ducking it.

CK's avatar

To which true red-herring anti-war candidates are you referring?

Feral Finster's avatar

It wouldn't matter - i am asking a hypothetical, which Dale refuses to answer.

CK's avatar

You are giving Dale a difficult hypothetical. According to my recollection of US history, the last anti-war candidate to become the POTUS was Woodrow Wilson, who lied.

Feral Finster's avatar

I said nothing about actually becoming president.

Since it's a hypothetical, it's difficult at all.

Duane McPherson's avatar

Why are the rulers and media so concerned about the feelings of Jews, rather than the victims of Jews?

I would attribute that first to the preferential treatment awarded to Jews in the current age of victim politics (aka, politics of resentment), which allows people of all stripes and patterns to see themselves as minority victims of the majority social group. Jews award themselves special status as victims due to the slaughter of Jews by the Nazis in WW2 (although the communists, socialist, Roma people, homosexuals, and mentally deficient never gained any special status, even though they were persecuted as much or more).

It seems the Jews have better Public Relations staff.

Mark Taylor's avatar

Interesting how I had not heard about the third non-Jewish stabbing victim nor the fact the attacker had been recently released from psychiatric care. None of that was in any of the coverage I saw. The entire corporate media world is one corrupt psy-op. In the process of such routine misrepresentation and manipulation the whole antisemitism shtick has been stretched and twisted into meaninglessness, which is a real danger to Jewish people. It is so important to keep in mind Zionism is not Judaism and that many of the most vocal and critical voices against Zionism and the US/Israel genocides in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and now Iran have been Jewish activists, intellectuals and journalists.

Nick Heffernan's avatar

The other, non-Jewish, victim was the first to be attacked. His name is Ishmail Hussein. He was stabbed in Southwark. The attacker then boarded an underground train to Golders Green where he attacked the two Jewish victims. See the report in The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/01/essa-suleiman-man-charged-attempted-three-people-london-knife-attacks-golders-green.

Ishmail Hussein has been completely written out of the story. By erasing him, the media can fabricate and amplify the ‘antisemitism’ furore without having an inconvenient Muslim victim of the same assailant to muddy up their psyop.

Yapa Dchev's avatar

The Guardian is as always The Guardian, and thus frames it like this: "having already attacked another man over a personal dispute in south London."

Nick Heffernan's avatar

Yes. The Guardian being The Guardian, it fails to comment on the fact that the attack on Ishmail Hussein hugely complicates and problematises the ‘antisemitism’ interpretation of the incident. And of course it has gone full-out with that interpretation itself. I’m not defending The Guardian (which I despise for its phoney and self-righteous ‘liberalism’ and its self-congratulatory ‘fearless independent journalism’ pose).

Mark Taylor's avatar

Despicable. Thanks for that information. Another grotesque example of how the corporate media cannot be trusted at all, especially on all things Israel and Zionism..

Anne Thacker's avatar

Wow...Thank you for the link...

Shadiya's avatar

The third victim, who was in fact, the first victim. 🙄

JennyStokes's avatar

I had heard it and posted here on Caitlin's other post. Owen Jones: Worth watching.

Mark Taylor's avatar

Max Blumenthal has important updates on these manufactured attacks: Max Blumenthal EXPOSES False Flag “Antisemitic” Stabbing in U.K.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD0mXDdmaRA

Patrick Tracey's avatar

This was a random attack on three people by a disturbed psychiatric patient. I don’t think he stopped to ask them their religion and two of the happened to be Jewish. Whilst any knife attack is a terrible thing it is also terrible the Main Stream Media are trying to spin this into an anti pro Palestine story. Shame on them. This story needs to be held in the context that Starmer is pro Zionist and a card carrying member of ‘Labour friends of Labour’ who is STILL approving 80% of U.K. military contracts with Israel. Nor should we forget our Intelligence Services, press and the Labour Party running a coordinated smear campaign on Jeremy Corbyn calling him an anti semite which he is clearly not. Whilst the death of two out of the three stabbed is saddening. It should not be compared with the mortifying figure of Israel’s genocide in Palestine of 70,000 plus souls and the unknown number in the illegal invasion of Lebanon. Haven’t heard the press or Starmer mentioning that. Both are still ongoing as is the persecution of Iran by Israel and the big bully Amerika who murdered 170 school girls in a sneak attack during a ceasefire. That is context.

Just Sayn's avatar

Shulamit Aloni, former Israel cabinet member- "anti-Semitic, It's a trick we always use it". "When from United States any criticism of Israel we call them Anti semitic. When from Europe we bring up the Holocaust ". "The organization is strong and has lots of money, with ties between Israel and US Jews". Interview from Democracy Now. https://rumble.com/v3bva8o-anti-semitism-is-a-trick-we-always-use-it.html

IMO antisemitism if it exists is the direct response to Zionist Jews, Racist Apartheid, ethno supremacy rant, their genocide, murders, and terrorism these last 80 years. This includes the Bombing of the King David Hotel, Three towers in New York City, the Entire situation in the middle east, and the take over of the US, UK and several EU governments. Rather than address Israel as the enemy it truly is these lying pundits and politicos push the evil Zionist agenda.

Just Sayn's avatar

In as much as death to the lies, wars,corruption, and those who make a living by such means. I agree

Landru's avatar

Question for you, I think most people who are informed would agree the West is losing it's pretend control of the world. With the total realization of the death of the West and the final power vacuum, will there be more war, a greater war or a chaotic pause? Most of history has said a greater war. I had lunch with a friend who is like minded, very intelligent person, as well as beautiful inside and out , lucky me. Our discussion at some point touched on AI and it's capture of human work. I said out loud which is usually a clue I shouldn't say it, AI is far more advanced then you know, and even more advanced than I know. I can tell you that knowing the 1% are building mansion bunkers for the end of the world. She, Bullshit, they are only doing that because they have nothing better to do and like competing. I told her within 3 years AI will complete the 4th generation and over 50% of human jobs will end. I said the chaos of How many Teslas can an Android buy will produce the need for those bunkers. They are going to burn it all down then own it all. With that lunch ended abruptly and somewhat politely ha. Some times I talk to much. The good thing, I don't have a bunker only a bunker mentality hahha.

JennyStokes's avatar

I can only think for myself and review what I've read and heard:

The rot 'at the top' in western countries seems unfixable unless there is a rapid change in thinking and even then getting these despicable politicians etc out is impossible without war or revolution.

I confess I do not know much about AI, at present it is driving me nuts on You-Tube so what it's doing elsewhere must be the same.

I think robots were always going to come?

Better hope Iran survives because it is where East meets West and a dominant culture in the future.

I really view all of this as an overtly racist war.

BUT after a long time I have hope that countries without the 'mindset of the West' we will be better.

My attitude at the moment and for the rest of my life is to help poor people which is going to be a huge task.

Landru's avatar

I agree. This war on Iran is racist however, Never Fuck with people who invented Algebra which I am fond of saying now ha. This stupid war on Iran could be that tipping point. Yes robots have always been in our future : ) I built my fist robot in my Mother's kitchen ha. We are all Palestinian now.

JennyStokes's avatar

Hi Landru. This is bringing back memories for me.

My first test of making something: cotton reel/elastic band and a matchstick.

Blow me down the cotton reel moved after I had tied the elastic band tight.

I wish I could draw a pic but not able on here.

That was my understanding of engineering!

Landru's avatar

We never give up do we, even when it's never been done before : )

Bradley Lacke's avatar

It's gonna come down to the wire: is the ruling class going to be able to groom AI into a sufficient working class replacement so they can gas us all and be forever safe from violent overthrow, or are they finally going to cross one bridge too far and bring it upon themselves first?

They've got the analysts and A/B testers, but we've got the human spirit. And I've got the popcorn, which I shall be ready at a moment's notice to put down and jump in.

jamenta's avatar

More Americans now are sleeping in their cars. Evictions are up. Jobs are increasingly hard to find. And with gas prices skyrocketing, more truckers going out of business - Americans not going out as much as ever, or taking vacations. Airline tickets skyrocketing because of jet fuel prices - Americans traveling less. Las Vegas going downhill.

So what happens next? Not sure if there will be violence in the streets. The hatred for the US government and duplicitous politicians will rise. Tent cities and parking lot car cities may become a thing. Americans will begin to organize more like they did during the depression. Soup kitchens will flourish. But outright violence? Not sure if that's going to become a thing.

How long will it last? Could be a long time - a decade maybe two?

John Cary's avatar

The Golders Green stabbings had nothing to do with antisemitism, it was a mentally ill individual, interesting that they studiously ignore mention that he had earlier that day also stabbed his friend who happens to be Muslim. They really are getting desperate, grabbing and twisting any straw! 🤬

Tony Mawdesley's avatar

I agree but I also think it’s another way of normalising ways that government can pretty much ban whatever it likes and uses the media to get the peasants to just nod along.

jamenta's avatar

Here in the US the "peasants" are continued to be spied upon by their own government without warrants. FISA got voted yet another extension. In addition, kill switches have been ordered on new production automobiles - so they can cut off your transportation remotely with a flip of a switch.

And get this - Republicans are leading the way. Not that Democrats ever do anything significant to stop it.

CK's avatar

A thousand upvotes on this.

Also remember Dan Ellsberg, Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning and numerous other persecuted whistleblowers.

Hassan Al-Mosawi's avatar

Well done for publishing and saying - Peace be upon you by Gaza and Jerusalem - Honour and victory are the allies of the axis of resistance and its allies, and humiliation and shame are for the axis of evil, Epstein Class (USA, Britain, France, Turkey, Qatar, UAE, NATO Governments, Zionist and Israel) and its allies.

Stuart Estrine's avatar

To be fair, anti-Semitism, racism, prejudice against Moslems, ageism, classism, and many other ugly worldviews exist. It is a fact. The deliberate, willful and knowing misrepresentation of anti-Semitism is another matter. In a desperate and last ditch effort to mask 80 years of genocide against the Palestinians and deadly regional imperialism the Zionist entity, along with its sponsors in the degenerate West, are appealing to the “Christian” Zionists and those who still believe the lies of the capitalist media. Make no mistake, these useless idiots number in the tens of millions in the USA alone. Gore Vidal spoke of perpetual war for perpetual profits within the capitalist/imperialist state. The Zionist entity is obviously blackmailing “leaders” in the degenerate West. The Zionist entity and their accomplices in the degenerate West have gone too far this time and we stand on the precipice of global economic collapse and nuclear winter. Iran is fighting for its very existence and must understand the consequences of failing to deal properly with the Zionist entity within the context of their messianic and apocalyptic worldview as defined by so called “Greater Israel”. The only way to stop the end of the world at this point is general strikes throughout the Western world. The Zionist entity is committing suicide. We must not allow them to take us with them.

George McFetridge's avatar

Suicide it is - the ugliest possible kind.

Who D. Who's avatar

"... the assailant had recently emerged from the care of a psychiatric hospital."

For the sake of "context" and "backdrop," the Sky reporter (I hesitate to call her a "journalist") should have speculated on a possible "rise in anti-Semitism" among the loonies in the loony bins. That, at least, would have shown more solid deductive reasoning than her other speculative conclusions.

JennyStokes's avatar

I thought 'loonie bins' was disgusting years ago and still do.

Who D. Who's avatar

yes, let's police our irony now

Who D. Who's avatar

A little disingenuous and self-righteous, are we? Get a life.

gypsy33's avatar

Thank you Jenny. ❤️

Blank Blank's avatar

Zionism = antisemitism. Get rid of it and antisemitism will drop dramatically. Zionism endangers Jewish people everywhere.

Baz's avatar

The weapons grade Hasbara is simply now the background radiation of the media landscape.

oh só mitra's avatar

Lets get some thing straight: ashkanazis (north european and yankee) jews are not semític, nor are sefardic (south european and north african) jews semític. Semític peoples are the peoples from the levant region: palestinians, árabs, phoenicians, druze, bedouins, alawites, iraquis, and palestinians jews aka mizhari jews, the ONLY semític jews

John Cary's avatar

And of course they never look at Cause and Affect