The image stuck in my visual system comes from a video of Pelosi climbing into an SUV as she fled the scene after her Russia-China-connection comments. Harangued by shouts of protestors, she peremptorily raises her hand like the aristocrat she perceives herself to be, waving off the objections of the peons. It's quite telling. These long-term congressional residents, corruptly funded by AIPAC et al. have lost all conception of the idea of public service, of populace representation, and deep down in whatever neural circuits remain, perceive themselves as above the fray. Of course they sympathize with Israel. They are the god's chosen people; they get it. Everyone else is mere chattel; rubbish.
Pelosi considers that the FBI, yes, that once respected organisation now tainted like all the others, should investigate anyone demonstrating in support of Palestine for their connections to Russia (McCarthy time again). Yes, true.
Pelosi, looking very much the worse for wear, made this statement.
May I suggest respectfully, Nancy, that you investigate your own Senate and Congress for their connections to the genocidistic Israel. Now that would be a much more worthwhile pursuit. Things to look for would be bribery, corruption, loyalty to the USA, US citizens with Israeli connections, that is Jews, fighting (murdering) Palestinians as members of the IDF.
I'll take it further along with the whole Bush cabal of old polusi is just the next ghoul to harm our human collective souls as a sycophantic duplicitous war mongering psycopath..sadly there seems to be and endless supply of these creatures waiting in the wings to take her place ..
The Obama types too..war criminals in plain site..
Only on 2023 US can a chicom, war pig chicken hawk call an anti-war group a Chinese plant. Can’t make this shit up. The decrepit old witch pretty much sums up our politics. A bunch or filthy rich old geezers that have no idea what there saying.
So many neoliberals and rinoes and main stream media are behind the genocide as well as all most all celebreties and the corporate establishment they all shill for. ...keep records for the future guilitine party
My own friends and family mock me about being a conspiracy theorist if I mention the deep state,,as if it does not exists as they selectivly ignore every bit of evidence of it.
I think many people looking for the Deep State and not seeing it are looking for the wrong thing. They are looking for a few fat cats gathered to direct the US Empire from a smoke-filled room hidden somewhere.
The Deep State is actually more like literally millions of critters of various sizes who feed at a gigantic trough--some taking a little bit, some taking big gulps. The trough is filled continually by a money-printing machine.
We often see the critters jostling among themselves for position at the trough, which makes them seem like opposing parties (and to some extent, they are). But as soon as the trough or its filling mechanism are threatened, they spontaneously come together to ward off the threat.
Hmm interesting..maybe I need to start using that term "double government" although it does not quite have the "sting" of "deep state" that sounds more ominous .. But it is a bit less able to dismiss out of hand by the pervayors of the cladenstine jar heads that sit around Langley thinking up ways of demonizing anyone who would dare challenge them in their imperialism.
I almost cringed on first watching this as I look at all major institutions as fetted indoctrination centers for the deep state.. And the guy was in the state department (cult) already that rased my suspicions and lack of trust even further ...
But giving the benefit of the doubt I'll here the man out fully and see what he has to say.. After all he was in the belly of the beast and what better way to observe its machinations.
Chaz - How would you define the "Deep State"? Which individuals are a part of it (i.e. what kind of people make up the Deep State)? Would you include certain organizations (or certain types of organizations) as part of the Deep State?
Is it likely that the "Deep State" is just the way the system works? i.e. the "Deep State" is normal and the default state of things. Often when people don't understand how systems of power work and don't understand the relationships between the multitude of variables in such systems, they attribute it to simple explanations like "Deep State".
According to me, there is no Conspiracy. What is so conspiratorial about the "Deep State"? According to my understanding, the "Deep State" is just the normal functioning of hidden systems of power - something that is expected, normal, and should be taken for granted as the way systems of power work in many countries, not just the US.
Just because people are unaware of how complex systems of power work to achieve its objectives, that naivety does not make "Deep State" a conspiracy theory.
Am I on the right track towards my understanding of the "Deep State" and the opponents of it calling it a "Conspiracy Theory"?
My problem with this essay is corporations do not control the government; it is the opposite: the government controls corporations. I admit it is an unholy alliance, but the government agencies hold the power...they make the laws, interpret the laws, and enforce the laws. The government 'prints' money; it has enforcement agencies, FBI, FDA, Treasury, DOJ, and others. Corporations have no autonomy; they exist at the pleasure of our Deep State government.
Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding what you're trying to say here but 2 sentences are problematic:
1) "...government controls corporations" ; and
2) "Corporations have no autonomy; they exist at the pleasure of the Deep State government".
The fact that corporations must file their incorporation documents with a state government does not at all suggest a lack of autonomy once created. There are varying degrees of regulations that may apply, depending on the type of corporation, products and/or services produced; and corporate charters can be revoked by the issuing STATE for significant violation of its charter OR for grave public harms (though I suspect this has only rarely been done); but in any case, to suggest that corporations lack autonomy or exist only at the pleasure of the Federal Government (or "Deep State") is without any basis that I can see. And federal government (and state gov'ts for that matter) do not "control corporations". They are controlled by their own Board of Directors and officers. One might argue, from a purely libertarian perspective, I suppose, that ANY government taxation and/or regulations that apply (e.g., limits on how much pollution they might be allowed to pump into the air or nearby groundwater/ stream / etc.) represents "control", but that's a bit of semantic excess in my view.
Lastly, while I wouldn't say without qualification that "corporations control government" (as this would imply that the corporations vote directly on legislation and/or overrule the Executive Branch), I would say that governments at federal, state and local government levels are all unduly influenced by concentrated private capital, via both substantial amounts of electoral campaign cash and extensive lobbying that effectively drowns out any individual citizen's or public interest group's voices. That is PRECISELY WHY Congress-critters so often promote, in legislation or advocacy, the interests of the Military Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, Big Ag, the Finance Sector, etc.... as well as the interests of major money players like AIPAC.
"Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding what you're trying to say here but 2 sentences are problematic:
1) "...government controls corporations" ; and
2) "Corporations have no autonomy; they exist at the pleasure of the Deep State government"."
If you are implying, there is a contradiction...I see none.
"The fact that corporations must file their incorporation documents with a state government does not at all suggest a lack of autonomy once created."
I am talking about the federal government, not a state government
"...but in any case, to suggest that corporations lack autonomy or exist only at the pleasure of the Federal Government (or "Deep State") is without any basis that I can see."
Forget about state government. They are nothing compared to the federal. The federal government has guns, money, and the law. They can and do what they please; they can change how they interpret the law, change the law, raise or lower taxes, levy fines, shut down a corporation for any actual or perceived infraction, and so on and on.
There are numerous examples; here is one. Ford and GMC are currently in deep economic crap trying to sell mandated EVs the public doesn't want. Where is the autonomy???
"That is PRECISELY WHY Congress-critters so often promote, in legislation or advocacy, the interests of the Military Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, Big Ag, the Finance Sector, etc.... as well as the interests of major money players like AIPAC."
You are confusing Congress and the other losers as representatives of the 'unseen government'; they are not. They do as they are told also. I do not deny that there is an unholy alliance and effective money laundering (kickbacks) among the wealthy, government bureaucrats, and corporations...but the federal government rules.
It’s not either/or. It’s both/and…who has the power lever at the time and who has the most interest? People with the power of the purse and people with the power of state violence are those involved in the deep state.
1. I agree with you that businesses do not control the US government. Businesses, other groups of people, and individuals INFLUENCE the government, some to a greater extent and some to a lesser extent. (And some--like me, and I suspect most people around here--to almost no extent.)
2. A corporation is business operating under certain rules established by the government, which subjects it to additional levels of government control. But like any businesses, corporations try to influence government, and many have great influence, singularly and in groups of businesses (e.g. Big Pharma, the Military-Industrial Complex).
3. As you point out, the US government has tremendous powers. They are spread out among many people, but they often get together to focus that power to common ends, either in the form of scratching each others' backs or uniting against common threats. Some people, either inside or outside the government proper, individually or in groups have more influence on the government as a whole than others. (Think most people around here have a fair number of qualms with many who have the greater influence on the US government.)
4. Most governments work the same way, with some variations that can be substantial in practice. The US government is the big kahuna--huge, rich (with a printing press), and controlling a global empire--so its misdeeds are particularly impactful on humanity as a whole.
I think all that is still a smoke screen to make the people think government is controlling business when in fact they are all working in tandem for the same exact goal..exploit the common man as a resource to be simply managed and controlled.
You guys think they are rivals when they are all on the same team..and against us as the enemy of them...They see themselves as the sacrosanct and the rich business investment class as the country and you prolitariates as the subject property to be corraled and made to pay and obey.
Don't forget to sign and date the tax checks like good obedient little serfs.
And "vote" so you sign and date the legal documents and civil contract that you agree to abide by the dictates of their next installed puppets..
But you are free to move about the cage. We gave you inclusive decorations to hide the bars.
I'm not so sure...what came first chicken or eggs.. Milirtary industrial complex is a combination of corporate and government intertwined already.
If you factor in the banking cabal that prints the money and controls it all as well as the investment class dynast family riches all hanging out in sealed meetings deciding all our faits in secret as the government employees at the top gets rich using inside trading for themselves and thus to make sure money funnels to candidates that do the bidding of the corporate state how to do you even decern one from the other any more?
It really is the very definition of fascism ...the next level
"Milirtary industrial complex is a combination of corporate and government intertwined already."
As I said, it is an unholy alliance, but I still contend the 'government' has the upper hand.
Here is an example of where the power lies. The Deep State has a full-court press underway to disrupt our societal fabric to gain total control. This effort involves the promotion of LBTGQ, AGW, BLM, and many other narratives that destroy our society. Ford and GM are in deep economic distress, trying to push EVs that the public does not want; this sure as hell was not their idea... the federal government mandated it. Furthermore, Anheuser-Busch, Gillette, Disney, and others have taken a beating promoting the gay agenda. These companies in no way benefit from these 'decisions,' but the federal government will bail them out if necessary.
"Which individuals are a part of it (i.e. what kind of people make up the Deep State)?
Gates and Soros are two, but most billionaires are 'members' to some degree. A good part of the three government branches are minions, along with high-level functionaries.
As to what kind of people make up the Deep State...they are rapacious megalomaniacs.
The thing to remember is the current government is the Deep State. The government agencies are in control with no oversight from elected officials.
It's a broad term..and of course the term is demonized and associated with crazy to shame people into not looking for evidence of it..
The "deeper" state composes the military industrial complex financial banking cartels WEF and further containes all of western governments and the infiltration of the EU with its flunkies ..the real seat of power lay with the dynasty family wealth and the rulling class who stay well hidden behind polite society. (and Zionist Jewish supremacy as a weapon) It's the money pyramid FEDs,,news systems corporate control matrix ..the establishment is the henchmen of the deep state..the hiarchy of ladder climbing little shits that seek to rise up into the ranks by selling their very soul to it.. There's where you get the deep states minions..
The governing of the people through the abuse psycology dynamic normalised and built right into social and cultural structures run by government created education systems to indoctrinate and made obedience training centers called schools..add Hollywood to that mind control paradigm and there's that deep state permiating western society from the inside out like a virus and disease . most people are completly unaware they have grow up into it ...
Our programed into it hiarchy structures (fallacy) looks for a leader to point to but
Is there one? Or is it a collection of mafia style Dons? Either way it's apparent that one exists.
The FBI intervened directly in the 2020 election spreading disinformation about the Hunter Biden laptop and censoring social media to be more favorable to the Democrats. No conspiracy theory here, it was quite open and well documented.
Lots of people have blinders on even ones who think they are firmly planted on the side of "rightousness".
The depth of mind control and indoctrination are sophisticated stealthy and permiating all of western society ..it takes a lot of intellectual courage and self monitoring our own perceptions and hypocracy and integrity to parse truth from fiction in the new Orwellian doublespeak hellscape reality we find ourselves..
Most people don't posess the cognitive ability necessary for it and that's why so many are victimes if it...
As Chris Crafts said in his book about his time as a NASA flight head...always look for the unseen unseans..as they are the things that's will get you in the end ...
Most people don't have the mental disapline for it though..
Most likely a CIA psyop that’s sole purpose was to keep the genocide rolling in Israel. Now all the chicoms in media on both sides can cackle about dead Americans on the idiot boxes, and how we must retaliate to save democracy or something like that. It’s tiring.
He misses a lot of points but his big fat arrogant ego vastly shields his ability to decern reality ..he's got priors of duplicitous behavior patterns. Beware,, the snake charmers
Any so called 'War' with Iran means 200+ USD per barrel of Oil overnight & the Implosion of the Global Economy courtesy of the Sea-mining & shutting down of the Straits of Hormuz:
So the collective 'Biden' Regime & its lackeys can try & be as Dystopian & Detached as they wish, it will not help them when practical 'realities on the ground' Crumbles American society from within & yields Violent Revolutions across every Western Nation due to 80%+ reductions in living standards.
How to steal your life blood and enslave us while they drive poor kids into military "opertunity" as willing mindless brain washed cannon fodder ..and when they come home damaged they are cast into the street. Especially if they figured out the scam and are too vocal about it.
If they are celebrated war hero's they go on to be just as despicable in a government position and are celebrated and thanked for their service abusing the American people ..
Whoe dude! I get it- have you been reading my mind? Long ago a really good friend who is now in heaven said this to me: “There are three kinds of people in the world :those that make things happen, those that watch things happen, and those that wonder what happened.” A whole boatload of oligarchs war criminals and on down to stopping at the 90%( income )will be among those in the last group. They see no one -they feel no one, hear no one,they like no one, they know no one except their own. They think the rest of us are stupid. They think the rest of us don’t have any power -when we are the ones that really have the power , and they are just doomed. When, I have no idea- a war with a larger war in the Middle East, a limited nuclear war, that may be when it happens. Since the early odds, I have been telling people to shore up their relationships because we will all need them.😒
Fuck no the 0.1 % don’t care ! they don’t know fuck all about us -we know boatloads more about them than they know about us We have to make them care and how do we do that? Well use your imagination.
It has never been laid bare so completely. As though on a dare, they are doing the most heinous crimes in full view of the world with no care to what they are doing to an entire population and culture. And we’re witnessing just a small portion of the atrocities.
Mmmmhm I would NOT agree to this (look at neofascist Germany, Austria not much better - propaganda & brainwash everywhere - just started reading (unfortunately, I think, available only in German) Jonas Toegel - Kognitive Kriegsfuehrung (is about cognitive warfare, some Bernays in there but MAINLY the 'new' program of attack dog NATO ... absolutely disgusting - no hope ...)
I know. My comment was specifically for Jenny. She likes to stress she's in Europe as opposed to the backwards USA or, worse, the third world or Russia!
Expats often do that, often to justify their having moved in the first place.
Dear dear Gypsy............thanks for your support.
It's getting really bad here in ERP but I have more optimism here than in the US.
We know that we can 'overturn' a so-called Republic because it has been done before at great cost to the people. This time it is much harder BUT we had to fight Kings once and I HOPE we can do this again.
As it is: My view on the EU is as it has always been: Too many countries with different agendas.
If the EU collapses it is the fault of people like URSULA van Robot who I don't think is a human.
Most of the western allied nations have been infiltrated by USrAel operatives ..the trick is they look for the ladder climbing little shit to lavish with money fame and perks and they jump at the chance to be a sniveling obsequice toad to the agenda of western imperialism ..every single leader in the EU is a USrAel stooge..
This all happened systematically and gaining traction for a generation right under everyone's nose as far back as the creation of Israel. till now all you have including in UK and Australia etc are sycophantic lap dogs to USrAel imperialism
Jenny, is THAT was the strike is about?! The “right” to poison your food the way they do to us Amerikkkans ?
As a former landscaper, I’ve used a LOT of glyphosate and it says right on the container not to allow contact with your skin…but here they’re allowed to spray it on your food. Incredible. And by using it, I got cancer for my troubles as well 😡
So what you're saying the difference is you in Europe go out and demonstrate, i.e. protest. Yet you're saying you are being played just like in the US.
So you are worse off than the US, as in, you are stupider. You think you're in control whereas you aren't. You're given an illusion of control, and you're all puffed up about it, lacking any real substance.
If anything, you are being played much more than those in the US. The USA is much more cynical and realistic as to what's going on. The Europe is just plain stupid.
We have come to the end result of capitalist greed. We have become the chattel -the go along -the get along, the nicely fed minions and barnyard animals for them to use and abuse however, they want and can get away with. Lots of them are the flying monkey minions ala the wicked witch of the west. where the US Empire is now, was fated at its beginning. This whole idea was exported from Europe and it’s now come to the end because of the billions of people on the earth who eventually will just say not anymore!!DONE!!!. The best way would be a world strike, but I fear it’s going to be violent revolution. Once we realize that it’s us against them -and we all unite (because what they’ve been doing is divide and conquer racism sexism trans ism, Islamophobia, antisemitism blah blah blah )…once we stop fighting, they are so done. They are history to the trash heap, and good riddance to bad rubbish.
Gypsy 33 I cannot. I do not have permission to say yes to all the deaths, murder mayhem, destruction, and suffering that will happen in a violent revolution. I cannot. I do not have that permission. I do not have that power. Even if no one I love is lost or suffered, read John Donne’s No Man is an Island: “send not for whom the Bell tolls -it tolls for thee”
I completely understand, Bernadene, and I certainly think no less of you for it.
I’m a sweet and gentle Pisces, but my moon is in rebellious Aquarius and my Mars in Scorpio. I personally would have no problem dealing with leaders who have led us down the primrose path; not necessarily involving death, but making sure they faced war tribunals. And if the death sentence is required, so be it. I have no patience for the individuals currently responsible for the death and destruction in both Gaza and Ukraine.
I’m a little like Voltaire -or maybe a lot: “ I might not agree with what you say, but I will defend to my death you’re right to say it”. I’ll add, NOT do it, write it, BE IT. However, I have no right to say that for others. I’m supremely upset with Hamas, because they knew this would happen. Their Beetle-brained idea, and possibly workable achievable goal, is the plan is to be like Algeria with France. They calculated the number of deaths would happen. They figured the number of deaths would be similar to what it took for France to finally get the fuck out of Algeria. But that was a different time, a different place a different world, a different life. How they could extrapolate that by ACTUALLY DOING THE MATH, I’ll never in my life figure out and I’ll never fucking forgive them for it. This suffering that they have caused to be heaped on the Palestinians WHILE ABSOLUTELY LEGAL, and undoubtedly understandable is unconscionable it’s wrong -it’s not fair and it’s NOT Islam not real Islam. They mention Allah all the time in their manifesto, but to my reckoning this is not at all his plan; this kind of suffering heaped on innocent people without their permission is bullshit. They had no right to do it. The right of conscience is what I’m saying -legally yes; otherwise no. They knew that for every captive, or every Israeli life, thousands of Palestinians would pay the price they knew this. They absolutely fucking knew this. They’ve lived with it for 75 fucking years.. that does not make what they knew Israel would do OK -not in any way shape or form not in any conscience of anyone I know not in any world where people say they love God and one another. ok Done.
I’m ambivalent about the attack by Hamas. Since Gaza is occupied they have a legal right to kill Israeli soldiers; most of the civilians were killed by the incredibly incompetent IDF. However the taking of civilian hostages was not legal under international law.
The alternative was to remain under occupation indefinitely.
And EVERYTHING that Israhell does is illegal under international law.
I'm not sure you meant this but if you think what israel did is in any way "legal" just because they said so and the USA backed them you are also part of the problem..
we -all of us -all need to remember that we do not want to become like the enemy -that we do not want to become like that we do not want to embrace revenge vengeance, and the desire to heap on them more than they heaped on us. This is why I’m spiritual. This is why I know that God will do something through the Holy Spirit through people, because there is more of us that care, and now they may have the power but we just have to wrest the power from them one way or another.
Americans and europeans have all equally been spoiled by their privilege while they ignored the murderous colonialism around the world they supported so they could have nice stuff on the backs of others for generations.. Now that they are experiencing a little discomfort they are outraged at every enemies their leaders point them towards.. they can't look in the mirror as the sight is far too ugly...
maybe i'm referring to the top tear of government and corporations of these said countries and NOT for my life either..my life has always been a struggle and my resentment for a world that seems to not get better but worse in this regard and i harbor a LOT of resentment over it ..and i'm better off than most but all my gains have again leveled out back into a struggle due to malfeasance and corruption of government and the establishment status quo i find myself economically imprisoned by...
One Party, Two Faces. Pelosi's clearly insane, and Biden's just off his rocker, while AOC continues her careerist climb into the nest of Democratic Party leadership: "She wants to be Pelosi!" (thinking of the Ramones tune "I want to be sedated"). All in all, an End of the Empire kind of look...
That's what I was thinking. The present condition of the US, especially the Democratic Party, seems like the beginning of the end of the Empire or whatever it is. There is a lot of flailing going on. It's a dangerous time, but it's probably something we have to try to get through in order to get rid of or at least neutralize the present ruling class.
Nuland. When you take into account her role in what is now the Ukraine fiasco, ignoring the doughnuts, if a sniper took out Zelensky, he would be tempted to try a second shot, surely.
He was always a patsy ...The trick of the deep state is to set up these easily impressed by riches and fame of the ladder climbing little shit sycophants to take the fall when it all goes wrong ..
This is what the boards of directors do..like BP, etc.. Find the sniveling toad to lavish them with perks and know they will tow the party line ,,but throw them under a buss when it goes bad..And they never even get it. So busy enjoying those perks or yahts. Or trips to islands.
This is a common tactic of the deep state elite establishment so they never take the heat. The real rullers hide behind polite upper society ..politicians are just figureheads in this theater of the absurd. As well as the news and Hollywood celebrity engine is just used as willing gate keepers to brain wash the public to mindlessly pay and obey. And be propagandised.
"Deep State" is a deliberately crafted term inserted into our culture by the enemy, intended to have us chasing shadows endlessly. They hide in plain sight. It is the documented and historical precedent of the Jewish mafia cabal M.O. to set up controlled (blackmailed or sufficiently morally corrupt to be useful) figureheads as their straw men. As they admit themselves - they do business - AND WAR, by deception. Especially against all other races.
Clearly, all of the oligarchs and war criminals are insane -realizing the billions of people on this earth that they have fucked over for low these many millennia and are now not kept in ignorance and do have some resources -it’s only a matter of time -they’re all fucking insane -they are!
Haha maybe below or BE LOW MILLENNIA. I see the literati police or Garrison Keillor’s POEM (Professional Organization of English Majors) membership is alive and well in you Susan! sometimes I do not check the talk to text and homonyms happen so frequently it’s just fucking aggravating as fuck.
I don't see any serious resistance being organized yet. Even Mr. Market, usually sensitive to the possibilities of catastrophe, seems tolerably happy. Maybe the people are confused by the depths of the present disorder.
As it happens I read them; this morning I read of Mr. Attali's program for the French, thinking: "The French are going to put up with _this_? Unlike the dullards of the Anglosphere, flailing as they go down the tubes, I thought the French would at least be more original." But I guess not.
The plans to attack Iraq were in place for years before the actual assault. The perpetrators were waiting for a good cover story/plausible reason. 9/11 was the opportunity/ initial cover story. When that story turned out to be too full of holes, they made up "weapons of mass destruction." Likewise, military plans to attack Iran have been in place for years. Various politicians and neocons have urged attacking Iran for years, but there has not been a good enough opportunity/cover story for the ignorant public to swallow. Now they have their cover story.
Bring on the moronic/shit/fake liars and more bombs.
None of us can get away from this we are being slowly saturated with gobbledy-gook inane and I mean INANE master criminals. Lock the whole bloody lot of them up.
Simplisicus on here today wrote a wonderful narrative of Biden asking Switzerland to send a very convoluted message to Iran!!! What?
The image stuck in my visual system comes from a video of Pelosi climbing into an SUV as she fled the scene after her Russia-China-connection comments. Harangued by shouts of protestors, she peremptorily raises her hand like the aristocrat she perceives herself to be, waving off the objections of the peons. It's quite telling. These long-term congressional residents, corruptly funded by AIPAC et al. have lost all conception of the idea of public service, of populace representation, and deep down in whatever neural circuits remain, perceive themselves as above the fray. Of course they sympathize with Israel. They are the god's chosen people; they get it. Everyone else is mere chattel; rubbish.
She could be distraught about delayed home improvement ideas.
Where’s a man with a hammer when you need one?
Pelosi considers that the FBI, yes, that once respected organisation now tainted like all the others, should investigate anyone demonstrating in support of Palestine for their connections to Russia (McCarthy time again). Yes, true.
Pelosi, looking very much the worse for wear, made this statement.
May I suggest respectfully, Nancy, that you investigate your own Senate and Congress for their connections to the genocidistic Israel. Now that would be a much more worthwhile pursuit. Things to look for would be bribery, corruption, loyalty to the USA, US citizens with Israeli connections, that is Jews, fighting (murdering) Palestinians as members of the IDF.
Never hear a word on that subject
I respectfully suggest that Nancy get her implants removed; they look ridiculous on a 110-year-old woman. 😁
Maybe toxic silicon poisoning went right into those three brain cells she posesses.
I think that the surgeon placed the implants in her skull, because that’s where she needed augmentation the most.
Yeah but it just crowded out any rational thought the three cells might have cooked up
😂
The do silicon teeth nowadays?
Don't think that would stop your forked tongue from wagging
The face is so scary my gaze never reaches her chest.
I always look away, or close my eyes.
“the FBI, yes, that once respected organization”???
lol.!!!!
Black history month might have a different take on that outfit.
But, I get your drift.
“Pelosi, looking very much the worse for wear…”
You said an eyeful.
The master of understatement, aren’t cha.
I'll take it further along with the whole Bush cabal of old polusi is just the next ghoul to harm our human collective souls as a sycophantic duplicitous war mongering psycopath..sadly there seems to be and endless supply of these creatures waiting in the wings to take her place ..
The Obama types too..war criminals in plain site..
Only on 2023 US can a chicom, war pig chicken hawk call an anti-war group a Chinese plant. Can’t make this shit up. The decrepit old witch pretty much sums up our politics. A bunch or filthy rich old geezers that have no idea what there saying.
i dont know what a chicom is, but if you mean Pelosi is an agent of the Chinese government you could not be more wrong.
So many neoliberals and rinoes and main stream media are behind the genocide as well as all most all celebreties and the corporate establishment they all shill for. ...keep records for the future guilitine party
I’ll hold the basket for their heads, Chaz!
Thanks and I'll bring the pizza and beer.
She sped off in her SUV to have some of that boutique chocolate ice cream she loves so much.
"Democrats Are Demented Genocidal War Sluts"
Republicans are no better...but that is because they are two sides of the Deep State coin.
My own friends and family mock me about being a conspiracy theorist if I mention the deep state,,as if it does not exists as they selectivly ignore every bit of evidence of it.
I think many people looking for the Deep State and not seeing it are looking for the wrong thing. They are looking for a few fat cats gathered to direct the US Empire from a smoke-filled room hidden somewhere.
The Deep State is actually more like literally millions of critters of various sizes who feed at a gigantic trough--some taking a little bit, some taking big gulps. The trough is filled continually by a money-printing machine.
We often see the critters jostling among themselves for position at the trough, which makes them seem like opposing parties (and to some extent, they are). But as soon as the trough or its filling mechanism are threatened, they spontaneously come together to ward off the threat.
[Edited for typo.]
If people think that the Deep State is a conspiracy theory, get them to watch this video featured a respected professor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKsItbj49K0
Hmm interesting..maybe I need to start using that term "double government" although it does not quite have the "sting" of "deep state" that sounds more ominous .. But it is a bit less able to dismiss out of hand by the pervayors of the cladenstine jar heads that sit around Langley thinking up ways of demonizing anyone who would dare challenge them in their imperialism.
I almost cringed on first watching this as I look at all major institutions as fetted indoctrination centers for the deep state.. And the guy was in the state department (cult) already that rased my suspicions and lack of trust even further ...
But giving the benefit of the doubt I'll here the man out fully and see what he has to say.. After all he was in the belly of the beast and what better way to observe its machinations.
Chaz - How would you define the "Deep State"? Which individuals are a part of it (i.e. what kind of people make up the Deep State)? Would you include certain organizations (or certain types of organizations) as part of the Deep State?
Is it likely that the "Deep State" is just the way the system works? i.e. the "Deep State" is normal and the default state of things. Often when people don't understand how systems of power work and don't understand the relationships between the multitude of variables in such systems, they attribute it to simple explanations like "Deep State".
According to me, there is no Conspiracy. What is so conspiratorial about the "Deep State"? According to my understanding, the "Deep State" is just the normal functioning of hidden systems of power - something that is expected, normal, and should be taken for granted as the way systems of power work in many countries, not just the US.
Just because people are unaware of how complex systems of power work to achieve its objectives, that naivety does not make "Deep State" a conspiracy theory.
Am I on the right track towards my understanding of the "Deep State" and the opponents of it calling it a "Conspiracy Theory"?
https://www.mikelofgren.net/introduction-to-the-deep-state/
My problem with this essay is corporations do not control the government; it is the opposite: the government controls corporations. I admit it is an unholy alliance, but the government agencies hold the power...they make the laws, interpret the laws, and enforce the laws. The government 'prints' money; it has enforcement agencies, FBI, FDA, Treasury, DOJ, and others. Corporations have no autonomy; they exist at the pleasure of our Deep State government.
Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding what you're trying to say here but 2 sentences are problematic:
1) "...government controls corporations" ; and
2) "Corporations have no autonomy; they exist at the pleasure of the Deep State government".
The fact that corporations must file their incorporation documents with a state government does not at all suggest a lack of autonomy once created. There are varying degrees of regulations that may apply, depending on the type of corporation, products and/or services produced; and corporate charters can be revoked by the issuing STATE for significant violation of its charter OR for grave public harms (though I suspect this has only rarely been done); but in any case, to suggest that corporations lack autonomy or exist only at the pleasure of the Federal Government (or "Deep State") is without any basis that I can see. And federal government (and state gov'ts for that matter) do not "control corporations". They are controlled by their own Board of Directors and officers. One might argue, from a purely libertarian perspective, I suppose, that ANY government taxation and/or regulations that apply (e.g., limits on how much pollution they might be allowed to pump into the air or nearby groundwater/ stream / etc.) represents "control", but that's a bit of semantic excess in my view.
Lastly, while I wouldn't say without qualification that "corporations control government" (as this would imply that the corporations vote directly on legislation and/or overrule the Executive Branch), I would say that governments at federal, state and local government levels are all unduly influenced by concentrated private capital, via both substantial amounts of electoral campaign cash and extensive lobbying that effectively drowns out any individual citizen's or public interest group's voices. That is PRECISELY WHY Congress-critters so often promote, in legislation or advocacy, the interests of the Military Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, Big Ag, the Finance Sector, etc.... as well as the interests of major money players like AIPAC.
"Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding what you're trying to say here but 2 sentences are problematic:
1) "...government controls corporations" ; and
2) "Corporations have no autonomy; they exist at the pleasure of the Deep State government"."
If you are implying, there is a contradiction...I see none.
"The fact that corporations must file their incorporation documents with a state government does not at all suggest a lack of autonomy once created."
I am talking about the federal government, not a state government
"...but in any case, to suggest that corporations lack autonomy or exist only at the pleasure of the Federal Government (or "Deep State") is without any basis that I can see."
Forget about state government. They are nothing compared to the federal. The federal government has guns, money, and the law. They can and do what they please; they can change how they interpret the law, change the law, raise or lower taxes, levy fines, shut down a corporation for any actual or perceived infraction, and so on and on.
There are numerous examples; here is one. Ford and GMC are currently in deep economic crap trying to sell mandated EVs the public doesn't want. Where is the autonomy???
"That is PRECISELY WHY Congress-critters so often promote, in legislation or advocacy, the interests of the Military Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, Big Ag, the Finance Sector, etc.... as well as the interests of major money players like AIPAC."
You are confusing Congress and the other losers as representatives of the 'unseen government'; they are not. They do as they are told also. I do not deny that there is an unholy alliance and effective money laundering (kickbacks) among the wealthy, government bureaucrats, and corporations...but the federal government rules.
It’s not either/or. It’s both/and…who has the power lever at the time and who has the most interest? People with the power of the purse and people with the power of state violence are those involved in the deep state.
"People with the power of the purse and people with the power of state violence are those involved in the deep state."
That was my point.
A couple of thoughts:
1. I agree with you that businesses do not control the US government. Businesses, other groups of people, and individuals INFLUENCE the government, some to a greater extent and some to a lesser extent. (And some--like me, and I suspect most people around here--to almost no extent.)
2. A corporation is business operating under certain rules established by the government, which subjects it to additional levels of government control. But like any businesses, corporations try to influence government, and many have great influence, singularly and in groups of businesses (e.g. Big Pharma, the Military-Industrial Complex).
3. As you point out, the US government has tremendous powers. They are spread out among many people, but they often get together to focus that power to common ends, either in the form of scratching each others' backs or uniting against common threats. Some people, either inside or outside the government proper, individually or in groups have more influence on the government as a whole than others. (Think most people around here have a fair number of qualms with many who have the greater influence on the US government.)
4. Most governments work the same way, with some variations that can be substantial in practice. The US government is the big kahuna--huge, rich (with a printing press), and controlling a global empire--so its misdeeds are particularly impactful on humanity as a whole.
I think all that is still a smoke screen to make the people think government is controlling business when in fact they are all working in tandem for the same exact goal..exploit the common man as a resource to be simply managed and controlled.
You guys think they are rivals when they are all on the same team..and against us as the enemy of them...They see themselves as the sacrosanct and the rich business investment class as the country and you prolitariates as the subject property to be corraled and made to pay and obey.
Don't forget to sign and date the tax checks like good obedient little serfs.
And "vote" so you sign and date the legal documents and civil contract that you agree to abide by the dictates of their next installed puppets..
But you are free to move about the cage. We gave you inclusive decorations to hide the bars.
I'm not so sure...what came first chicken or eggs.. Milirtary industrial complex is a combination of corporate and government intertwined already.
If you factor in the banking cabal that prints the money and controls it all as well as the investment class dynast family riches all hanging out in sealed meetings deciding all our faits in secret as the government employees at the top gets rich using inside trading for themselves and thus to make sure money funnels to candidates that do the bidding of the corporate state how to do you even decern one from the other any more?
It really is the very definition of fascism ...the next level
"Milirtary industrial complex is a combination of corporate and government intertwined already."
As I said, it is an unholy alliance, but I still contend the 'government' has the upper hand.
Here is an example of where the power lies. The Deep State has a full-court press underway to disrupt our societal fabric to gain total control. This effort involves the promotion of LBTGQ, AGW, BLM, and many other narratives that destroy our society. Ford and GM are in deep economic distress, trying to push EVs that the public does not want; this sure as hell was not their idea... the federal government mandated it. Furthermore, Anheuser-Busch, Gillette, Disney, and others have taken a beating promoting the gay agenda. These companies in no way benefit from these 'decisions,' but the federal government will bail them out if necessary.
Thanks for that Les.
That artical spells it out better than I ever could
"Which individuals are a part of it (i.e. what kind of people make up the Deep State)?
Gates and Soros are two, but most billionaires are 'members' to some degree. A good part of the three government branches are minions, along with high-level functionaries.
As to what kind of people make up the Deep State...they are rapacious megalomaniacs.
The thing to remember is the current government is the Deep State. The government agencies are in control with no oversight from elected officials.
It's a broad term..and of course the term is demonized and associated with crazy to shame people into not looking for evidence of it..
The "deeper" state composes the military industrial complex financial banking cartels WEF and further containes all of western governments and the infiltration of the EU with its flunkies ..the real seat of power lay with the dynasty family wealth and the rulling class who stay well hidden behind polite society. (and Zionist Jewish supremacy as a weapon) It's the money pyramid FEDs,,news systems corporate control matrix ..the establishment is the henchmen of the deep state..the hiarchy of ladder climbing little shits that seek to rise up into the ranks by selling their very soul to it.. There's where you get the deep states minions..
The governing of the people through the abuse psycology dynamic normalised and built right into social and cultural structures run by government created education systems to indoctrinate and made obedience training centers called schools..add Hollywood to that mind control paradigm and there's that deep state permiating western society from the inside out like a virus and disease . most people are completly unaware they have grow up into it ...
Our programed into it hiarchy structures (fallacy) looks for a leader to point to but
Is there one? Or is it a collection of mafia style Dons? Either way it's apparent that one exists.
Simply put the people with the power of the purse and the people with the power of sanctioned state violence are those involved in the Deep State
The deep state is a cadre of elites who use government policies to enrich themselves. It's coordinated, tacitly
The FBI intervened directly in the 2020 election spreading disinformation about the Hunter Biden laptop and censoring social media to be more favorable to the Democrats. No conspiracy theory here, it was quite open and well documented.
https://www.mikelofgren.net/introduction-to-the-deep-state/
Ignorance is bliss.
Lots of people have blinders on even ones who think they are firmly planted on the side of "rightousness".
The depth of mind control and indoctrination are sophisticated stealthy and permiating all of western society ..it takes a lot of intellectual courage and self monitoring our own perceptions and hypocracy and integrity to parse truth from fiction in the new Orwellian doublespeak hellscape reality we find ourselves..
Most people don't posess the cognitive ability necessary for it and that's why so many are victimes if it...
As Chris Crafts said in his book about his time as a NASA flight head...always look for the unseen unseans..as they are the things that's will get you in the end ...
Most people don't have the mental disapline for it though..
Just as October 7th was a pretext, the attack on US troops is a pretext.
Pretend three US soldiers were killed on a bad weekend in Nevada. Would the Pentagon demand that Reno be bombed?
Most likely a CIA psyop that’s sole purpose was to keep the genocide rolling in Israel. Now all the chicoms in media on both sides can cackle about dead Americans on the idiot boxes, and how we must retaliate to save democracy or something like that. It’s tiring.
It sure is
Hi Feral
According to Scott Ritter ( and the Jordanian government) the attack didn’t occur in Jordan at all.
It was in Syria.
Where, of course, Amerikkkan troops are illegally stationed.
Doesn't matter, since a pretext is sought after.
Nope, not Reno. Iran.
I think you missed the point
Did you mean the target?
He misses a lot of points but his big fat arrogant ego vastly shields his ability to decern reality ..he's got priors of duplicitous behavior patterns. Beware,, the snake charmers
Thank you, Jazzy! You're making my day today, bud.
You should make your day in a mirror but you are too cowardly for that.
Any so called 'War' with Iran means 200+ USD per barrel of Oil overnight & the Implosion of the Global Economy courtesy of the Sea-mining & shutting down of the Straits of Hormuz:
So the collective 'Biden' Regime & its lackeys can try & be as Dystopian & Detached as they wish, it will not help them when practical 'realities on the ground' Crumbles American society from within & yields Violent Revolutions across every Western Nation due to 80%+ reductions in living standards.
How to steal your life blood and enslave us while they drive poor kids into military "opertunity" as willing mindless brain washed cannon fodder ..and when they come home damaged they are cast into the street. Especially if they figured out the scam and are too vocal about it.
If they are celebrated war hero's they go on to be just as despicable in a government position and are celebrated and thanked for their service abusing the American people ..
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Whoe dude! I get it- have you been reading my mind? Long ago a really good friend who is now in heaven said this to me: “There are three kinds of people in the world :those that make things happen, those that watch things happen, and those that wonder what happened.” A whole boatload of oligarchs war criminals and on down to stopping at the 90%( income )will be among those in the last group. They see no one -they feel no one, hear no one,they like no one, they know no one except their own. They think the rest of us are stupid. They think the rest of us don’t have any power -when we are the ones that really have the power , and they are just doomed. When, I have no idea- a war with a larger war in the Middle East, a limited nuclear war, that may be when it happens. Since the early odds, I have been telling people to shore up their relationships because we will all need them.😒
BINGO !! but ...
do the 0.1 percenters care ??? ...🤔🤔🤔
Fuck no the 0.1 % don’t care ! they don’t know fuck all about us -we know boatloads more about them than they know about us We have to make them care and how do we do that? Well use your imagination.
DE-centralize, DE-fund the government, boycott globalist corporation's products & services, etc. ...
You must be from DE, Klaus?
Why ?
Does it really matter where I was born or what kind of passport I bear ?
No family-ties whatsoever with the WEF-Klaus ...🤣🤣🤣
My imaginations come to wooden stumps hatchets and guilitines.. Roaps cheap too... Of course never give up your right to bare arms.
"bare arms." - that's a bare minimum. Just think about arms that are clothed!
Wooden something could probably be of use too, Jazzy. Have you thought about employing матрёшки?
Im sure your wood would only fit into the smallest doll
I wish you weren’t 1000% right.
It has never been laid bare so completely. As though on a dare, they are doing the most heinous crimes in full view of the world with no care to what they are doing to an entire population and culture. And we’re witnessing just a small portion of the atrocities.
Who the fuck have we become?
Well I am in Europe and I am outraged that not one Country (other than Spain) has stood up against the US.
Europeans like being slaves. They will side with whatever side they believe to be stronger.
No, prostitutes get paid for their services. Slaves just get beatings.
Maybe something like an abused spouse or, returning to the theme, the relationship a prostitute has with her pimp.
Jenny what about Ireland?
Yes. Ireland too.
Thanks for reminding me.
And Slovenia - and, apparently Belgium.
At least you have democracy over there in Europe.
Mmmmhm I would NOT agree to this (look at neofascist Germany, Austria not much better - propaganda & brainwash everywhere - just started reading (unfortunately, I think, available only in German) Jonas Toegel - Kognitive Kriegsfuehrung (is about cognitive warfare, some Bernays in there but MAINLY the 'new' program of attack dog NATO ... absolutely disgusting - no hope ...)
I know. My comment was specifically for Jenny. She likes to stress she's in Europe as opposed to the backwards USA or, worse, the third world or Russia!
Expats often do that, often to justify their having moved in the first place.
What makes you think she is an expat? Do you have a crystal ball?
I don't. She mentioned many times she was from somewhere else, not French.
It's called Liberal Socialism. BUT we are being 'played' just like you in the US
The only difference is that in France people will demonstrate. We do not rely on our armchairs ......we get out there and protest.
This Farmers strike is very interesting to me because it is well organised in every Province.
There is just enough food getting in to keep us 'calm.' BUT when there is no food/wine for people the French will go ballistic.
This should be teaching the 'armchair' people in the US that the people ARE in control.
I see more Unions here coming out. We are not like Americans we can have our electricity shut off and then the candlemakers will be on a roll.
My last point is this: I do not agree with all the Farmers. We got shot of Monsanto and it's weed killer chemicals. The farmers want poison back.
+ We have been working on a 'green' agenda here in France. Remember the Gillet Jeaune? They wanted lower prices for diesel!
Dear dear Gypsy............thanks for your support.
It's getting really bad here in ERP but I have more optimism here than in the US.
We know that we can 'overturn' a so-called Republic because it has been done before at great cost to the people. This time it is much harder BUT we had to fight Kings once and I HOPE we can do this again.
As it is: My view on the EU is as it has always been: Too many countries with different agendas.
If the EU collapses it is the fault of people like URSULA van Robot who I don't think is a human.
C'est la vie.
Most of the western allied nations have been infiltrated by USrAel operatives ..the trick is they look for the ladder climbing little shit to lavish with money fame and perks and they jump at the chance to be a sniveling obsequice toad to the agenda of western imperialism ..every single leader in the EU is a USrAel stooge..
This all happened systematically and gaining traction for a generation right under everyone's nose as far back as the creation of Israel. till now all you have including in UK and Australia etc are sycophantic lap dogs to USrAel imperialism
Jenny, is THAT was the strike is about?! The “right” to poison your food the way they do to us Amerikkkans ?
As a former landscaper, I’ve used a LOT of glyphosate and it says right on the container not to allow contact with your skin…but here they’re allowed to spray it on your food. Incredible. And by using it, I got cancer for my troubles as well 😡
So what you're saying the difference is you in Europe go out and demonstrate, i.e. protest. Yet you're saying you are being played just like in the US.
So you are worse off than the US, as in, you are stupider. You think you're in control whereas you aren't. You're given an illusion of control, and you're all puffed up about it, lacking any real substance.
If anything, you are being played much more than those in the US. The USA is much more cynical and realistic as to what's going on. The Europe is just plain stupid.
"stupider?" The word is more stupid!
Everything is possible BUT at least we are not sitting on our backsides looking at never ending game shows.
Right or wrong we ARE the people.
"stupider?" The word is more stupid!
Thank you for correcting! You should know the situation on the ground betterer.
Keep your blinkers on!
Your response is not helpful.
Which blinkers are you talking about? Where am I wrong in what I described?
I disagree
Always been....to begin with, genocide and slavery. We are superbly yukky.
We have come to the end result of capitalist greed. We have become the chattel -the go along -the get along, the nicely fed minions and barnyard animals for them to use and abuse however, they want and can get away with. Lots of them are the flying monkey minions ala the wicked witch of the west. where the US Empire is now, was fated at its beginning. This whole idea was exported from Europe and it’s now come to the end because of the billions of people on the earth who eventually will just say not anymore!!DONE!!!. The best way would be a world strike, but I fear it’s going to be violent revolution. Once we realize that it’s us against them -and we all unite (because what they’ve been doing is divide and conquer racism sexism trans ism, Islamophobia, antisemitism blah blah blah )…once we stop fighting, they are so done. They are history to the trash heap, and good riddance to bad rubbish.
Don’t fear it, Bernadene; EMBRACE the Revolution!
Gypsy 33 I cannot. I do not have permission to say yes to all the deaths, murder mayhem, destruction, and suffering that will happen in a violent revolution. I cannot. I do not have that permission. I do not have that power. Even if no one I love is lost or suffered, read John Donne’s No Man is an Island: “send not for whom the Bell tolls -it tolls for thee”
I completely understand, Bernadene, and I certainly think no less of you for it.
I’m a sweet and gentle Pisces, but my moon is in rebellious Aquarius and my Mars in Scorpio. I personally would have no problem dealing with leaders who have led us down the primrose path; not necessarily involving death, but making sure they faced war tribunals. And if the death sentence is required, so be it. I have no patience for the individuals currently responsible for the death and destruction in both Gaza and Ukraine.
I’m a little like Voltaire -or maybe a lot: “ I might not agree with what you say, but I will defend to my death you’re right to say it”. I’ll add, NOT do it, write it, BE IT. However, I have no right to say that for others. I’m supremely upset with Hamas, because they knew this would happen. Their Beetle-brained idea, and possibly workable achievable goal, is the plan is to be like Algeria with France. They calculated the number of deaths would happen. They figured the number of deaths would be similar to what it took for France to finally get the fuck out of Algeria. But that was a different time, a different place a different world, a different life. How they could extrapolate that by ACTUALLY DOING THE MATH, I’ll never in my life figure out and I’ll never fucking forgive them for it. This suffering that they have caused to be heaped on the Palestinians WHILE ABSOLUTELY LEGAL, and undoubtedly understandable is unconscionable it’s wrong -it’s not fair and it’s NOT Islam not real Islam. They mention Allah all the time in their manifesto, but to my reckoning this is not at all his plan; this kind of suffering heaped on innocent people without their permission is bullshit. They had no right to do it. The right of conscience is what I’m saying -legally yes; otherwise no. They knew that for every captive, or every Israeli life, thousands of Palestinians would pay the price they knew this. They absolutely fucking knew this. They’ve lived with it for 75 fucking years.. that does not make what they knew Israel would do OK -not in any way shape or form not in any conscience of anyone I know not in any world where people say they love God and one another. ok Done.
I’m ambivalent about the attack by Hamas. Since Gaza is occupied they have a legal right to kill Israeli soldiers; most of the civilians were killed by the incredibly incompetent IDF. However the taking of civilian hostages was not legal under international law.
The alternative was to remain under occupation indefinitely.
And EVERYTHING that Israhell does is illegal under international law.
I'm not sure you meant this but if you think what israel did is in any way "legal" just because they said so and the USA backed them you are also part of the problem..
we -all of us -all need to remember that we do not want to become like the enemy -that we do not want to become like that we do not want to embrace revenge vengeance, and the desire to heap on them more than they heaped on us. This is why I’m spiritual. This is why I know that God will do something through the Holy Spirit through people, because there is more of us that care, and now they may have the power but we just have to wrest the power from them one way or another.
Lazy and cowardly
Americans and europeans have all equally been spoiled by their privilege while they ignored the murderous colonialism around the world they supported so they could have nice stuff on the backs of others for generations.. Now that they are experiencing a little discomfort they are outraged at every enemies their leaders point them towards.. they can't look in the mirror as the sight is far too ugly...
Not for the majority of my life. TY God.
maybe i'm referring to the top tear of government and corporations of these said countries and NOT for my life either..my life has always been a struggle and my resentment for a world that seems to not get better but worse in this regard and i harbor a LOT of resentment over it ..and i'm better off than most but all my gains have again leveled out back into a struggle due to malfeasance and corruption of government and the establishment status quo i find myself economically imprisoned by...
One Party, Two Faces. Pelosi's clearly insane, and Biden's just off his rocker, while AOC continues her careerist climb into the nest of Democratic Party leadership: "She wants to be Pelosi!" (thinking of the Ramones tune "I want to be sedated"). All in all, an End of the Empire kind of look...
That's what I was thinking. The present condition of the US, especially the Democratic Party, seems like the beginning of the end of the Empire or whatever it is. There is a lot of flailing going on. It's a dangerous time, but it's probably something we have to try to get through in order to get rid of or at least neutralize the present ruling class.
wait until the reality in Ukraine sets in
Oh don't worry the "War Witch" Nuland landed there today so everything is going to be alright!
but did she have cookies. it's possible a sniper could take out Zelensky soon, he seems to be losing favor with the warpigs.
Nuland. When you take into account her role in what is now the Ukraine fiasco, ignoring the doughnuts, if a sniper took out Zelensky, he would be tempted to try a second shot, surely.
He was always a patsy ...The trick of the deep state is to set up these easily impressed by riches and fame of the ladder climbing little shit sycophants to take the fall when it all goes wrong ..
This is what the boards of directors do..like BP, etc.. Find the sniveling toad to lavish them with perks and know they will tow the party line ,,but throw them under a buss when it goes bad..And they never even get it. So busy enjoying those perks or yahts. Or trips to islands.
This is a common tactic of the deep state elite establishment so they never take the heat. The real rullers hide behind polite upper society ..politicians are just figureheads in this theater of the absurd. As well as the news and Hollywood celebrity engine is just used as willing gate keepers to brain wash the public to mindlessly pay and obey. And be propagandised.
"Deep State" is a deliberately crafted term inserted into our culture by the enemy, intended to have us chasing shadows endlessly. They hide in plain sight. It is the documented and historical precedent of the Jewish mafia cabal M.O. to set up controlled (blackmailed or sufficiently morally corrupt to be useful) figureheads as their straw men. As they admit themselves - they do business - AND WAR, by deception. Especially against all other races.
Er…Pretzel…she ate all those cookies herself 😉
LOL
AOC is a self serving narcisist ...scratch that surface and I bet you find a full on sociopath
Clearly, all of the oligarchs and war criminals are insane -realizing the billions of people on this earth that they have fucked over for low these many millennia and are now not kept in ignorance and do have some resources -it’s only a matter of time -they’re all fucking insane -they are!
"lo these many millennia," not "low..."
Haha maybe below or BE LOW MILLENNIA. I see the literati police or Garrison Keillor’s POEM (Professional Organization of English Majors) membership is alive and well in you Susan! sometimes I do not check the talk to text and homonyms happen so frequently it’s just fucking aggravating as fuck.
Please stick with us. We need General Strikes for the common good. Your courage and truth telling is helping us get there!
I don't see any serious resistance being organized yet. Even Mr. Market, usually sensitive to the possibilities of catastrophe, seems tolerably happy. Maybe the people are confused by the depths of the present disorder.
Wsws
As it happens I read them; this morning I read of Mr. Attali's program for the French, thinking: "The French are going to put up with _this_? Unlike the dullards of the Anglosphere, flailing as they go down the tubes, I thought the French would at least be more original." But I guess not.
Time for a national citizens union‼️
True...as they are aided and abetted by neocon RINOs.
This again is more evidence that this planet is the insane asylum of Universe. Fear runs it. Always has and still does. An egomaniac nightmare.
The plans to attack Iraq were in place for years before the actual assault. The perpetrators were waiting for a good cover story/plausible reason. 9/11 was the opportunity/ initial cover story. When that story turned out to be too full of holes, they made up "weapons of mass destruction." Likewise, military plans to attack Iran have been in place for years. Various politicians and neocons have urged attacking Iran for years, but there has not been a good enough opportunity/cover story for the ignorant public to swallow. Now they have their cover story.
Thanks Che.
Everyone should read this especially concerning Iran.
100%
the US is as f---ed up as Israel.
They just can't seem to say no to the MIC kickback money. Their problem is their greed!
The FBI should be investigating Pelosi and her illegal insider trading. Pelosi is insane AND a war criminal.
The FBI is part of the problem.
Bring on the moronic/shit/fake liars and more bombs.
None of us can get away from this we are being slowly saturated with gobbledy-gook inane and I mean INANE master criminals. Lock the whole bloody lot of them up.
Simplisicus on here today wrote a wonderful narrative of Biden asking Switzerland to send a very convoluted message to Iran!!! What?
No, we can get away from this, we choose not to.
It makes me sick 🤢
Nancy, Joe, both parties quite disgusting in their immoral acts. They receive a NO VOTE from me and many that I know that are just as appalled.