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The irony is that there are thousands of videos of Ukrainians being press-ganged off the streets and literally dragged kicking and screaming into the army. Amputees included.

There also are similar videos of poorly trained, poorly led Ukrainian troops being sacrificed, gunned down in confused meat waves. Prisoners report blocking units ordered to shoot those who try to surrender.

Nobody in the Kiev leadership or in NATO gave a shit, as long as the army kept fighting.

Now that Nazi Ukraine is running low on warm live bodies to throw, it seems once again that victory has a thousand fathers, while defeat is an orphan.

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The common westerners have a hard time realizing Ukraine is a full-blown Nazi state with a Gestapo-type security apparatus having a tight grip on any dissent.

The fact there are Ukrainian flags flying on many western government and business flagpoles, or displayed on prominent people's social media profiles, says absolutely nothing. During 1930s swastikas flew in the US and Europe despite their knowing the abuses taking place.

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"The common westerners have a hard time realizing Ukraine is a full-blown Nazi state with a Gestapo-type security apparatus having a tight grip on any dissent."

Or they justify it.

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Those are scum. I'm mostly concerned with those truly failing to comprehend it. They are many, I believe. I'm trying to appeal to them to look back at 1930s Germany and realize that's where they're at.

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I'm surprised there has been no effort from inside Ukraine to take out Zelensky. I mean, how long will this useless slaughter continue?

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1. The secret police keep a close eye on any such things, and they have carte blanche to do whatever it takes, they answer to no law.

2. One of the Cabinet of Ministers who favored negotiations was immediately executed, on Washington's orders.

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re 2. - During the daylight, on some Kiev street, for all to observe and note. IIRC.

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Aug 19, 2023·edited Aug 19, 2023

Jeezus. But then again - you're going to die if you attempt breaking through the Russian front line in a futile offensive with no air support to speak of - what do you got to lose? The last I heard, something like 45,000 Ukrainian casualties in the last month (an 8 to 1 ratio of Ukrainian to Russian soldiers) - and the Ukrainian army didn't even reach the first defensive Russian lines - little alone the 2nd or 3rd lines.

At what point do people higher up the military food (death) chain begin saying enough is enough?

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The people running Kiev and Washington are sociopaths.

They could not care less about any casualties other then to themselves.

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At no point. They're all taken care of financially and promised safe haven. Most of them will be dropped, of course, just like those Afghans off the wheels of planes, but they hope it would be someone else.

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Aug 19, 2023·edited Aug 19, 2023

Are you saying there are no Ukrainians in power, or higher up in the military that don't have some amount of integrity, or a basic human moral conscience - that their own fellow Ukrainians are being slaughtered en masse, being used as cannon fodder in a war they clearly cannot win?

I find that a bit hard to believe, but what do I know.

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Nope, and if they pop their heads up, they will be dealt with.

This is all with the full knowledge and approval of the West.

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I am saying there will be a lot of those once the situation changes, readily so. They'll say they've always been like that. For now, though, they are "in the bag" for fear of being dealt with similar to many others.

Interpret it however you want. This is nothing new, just check 1930-40s Germany for the most recent example.

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It seems that way to me, but sources in Ukraine say everyone believes in the triumph of the Ukrainian spirit. They thought the Russians would be defeated easily.

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The whole upper structure of Ukraine is utterly corrupt. The Gestapo-modeled security apparatus is super strong too. Anyone even suspected of straying is just killed outright. Look up the fate of one participant of the first attempted negotiations in Belarus.

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Weren't there multiple attempts on Hitler's life?

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With the purpose of reaching his goals more practically. Ideologically they were all in alignment.

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Interesting and exactly.

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Zaluzhny opposed the offensives. Even after he was "disappeared" for a while.

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Fight until the last Ukrainian! Western "experts" have forced their proxy state to use WWI tactics - meat wave attacks with no air support. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men have died to protect the big guy and his son's corruption.

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Aug 19, 2023·edited Aug 19, 2023

Agree. But Trump also ramped up the war against Russia: https://consortiumnews.com/2019/11/19/25-times-trump-has-been-dangerously-hawkish-on-russia/

It's not so much who is POTUS that makes a difference anymore, it's the runaway militarism of the institutions and oligarchs who have bought and are running the US government. War is continuous and is meant to be continuous.

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The seeds of the Ukraine war were planted during the Clinton administration's decision to expand NATO. The war later was cast in stone in 2008 Bucharest NATO summit's commitment to include Ukraine.

The Biden corruption is the result of that, and it is NOT the cause of the war.

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Bit of a chicken and egg situation, that. Biden and others' corruption could have continued even if Ukraine hadn't been promised NATO membership, in fact it might have worked out even better for them, since we wouldn't be where we are now

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Doesn't it contradict one of your principles?

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I don't think so. One, I don't think Caitlin is an officer of the state, and two, I theorized my report and comment as a means of spoiling the clickbait mystery they were trying to develop. It wasn't meant to be a self-serving performance, but every word of defense seems to make it more so, so. 🤐

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At $110,000,000,000 in military hardware to Ukraine and 500,000 dead Ukrainians, that comes to $220,000 per dead Ukrainian. That's if you believe the Official Numbers, which are surely an understatement.

Congratulations.

Vladimir Putin cares more about Ukrainian lives than anyone in the Kiev junta, much less in Washington.

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Meanwhile, in Lahaina USA, Biden gives the survivors a one-time payment of $700 per household.

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This is most instructive. The Empire cares less about you than a dead Ukrainian.

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That prick. 🤢🤮

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Feral

As we have both said before, but probably not understood by many readers, they are 'kinsmen', even after adding in the memory of Stalin's Holodomor in 1932-33.

While not promoting the reading of this frightening event, probably unknown to all Americans, The Holodomor, as above, it does show that time heals all things. If you are kin, then time allows even that kind of memory to pass into history.

Unless of course you are engaged in the promoting of the grand Jewish political event in the name of the Holocaust out of which has come the total ownership of the US empire, now a clearly stated Jewish asset, used for their own advantage. And how!

Until the world can see this highly promoted holocaust event for what it was.... and since then, for what it has since become, the failing US empire will go on carrying Israel's bags, seen daily in the sponsored treatment by the US of apartheid Israel's removal of the Palestinians from their land, every day receiving funding for such a crime from both houses of a subservient US government. More to come too.

Read on "Eretz Israel". Follow the dots.

What a disgraceful country the US has become. The fact that these inhumane crimes have been in progress for 60 years, totally sponsored by US dollars, must be a clear indication to every voter in the USA what is happening there and who, like their politicians, obviously don't give a damn. Read about it in the Jewish owned US media?

Never.

So when the Ukrainian proxy war ends, as we saw in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and the US fly their people home again for the next war on the list, Russia will step in and rebuild Ukraine up again as kinsmen, contrasting to the US withdrawals from so many countries since 1945, 'exceptional' America having no kinsmen anywhere in the world. Remember Laos / Cambodia? Still killing innocents.

"To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”

Henry Kissinger?

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I believe it's the second time you mentioned holodomor recently. You probably don't realize that the famine of that period has been hijacked by banderites to use and haul into the future forever.

A few points to consider:

- how is it that it was ethnically directed?

- if yes, then what about other areas of the USSR where the crop was being produced, confiscated, with all the horrific consequences ensued? What were those areas? How are those events called and treated there?

- what were the areas where no crop grew and hence couldn't be provided for from their own resources supposed to do?

- have you heard about any other famines anywhere in the world and the promotion of the said to the level the banderites managed to do with "holodomor"?

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In other news, the MSM reports that luxury car sales in Ukraine again break records!

Now, a year ago, CBS News was roasted and forced to publish a sniveling apology for a story that dared suggest that there might in fact be corruption in brave widdle Ukraine.

So what happened?

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They prefer Land Rovers, with Porsche and BWM close competitors

https://www.voiceofeurope.com/record-high-luxury-car-sales-in-ukraine-despite-war/

Thanks, I hadn't read about that. I don't follow the news.

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David Ignatius is really really disgusting. But people pay to read the NYT, so whose fault is it really?

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I don’t think it would matter if people stopped paying to read The Rag. The elites would publish it at a loss if they had to. They paid Lush Limpbough millions—in fact he lost money for Fox—but he was their best spewer of hate and builder of Christian/militia wankers throughout the hinterlands. The Rag is needed to keep the Killary Plan alive.

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You might well be right. People do pay to read it though!

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Yes they do. And they all think their shit don’t stink. I’ve known people who bought it just to carry to work with them. Cache. They never read the damn Thing!!!

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I am embarrassed for them 😬

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Well, Yuppies. Somebody has to because they don’t embarrass, ever! 😤🤯😱,

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The people of Ukraine found out too late the true cost of doing business with the West.

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The rulers in Kiev could care less. They got their cut.

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As I've stated before, the real challenge will be surviving long enough to spend it.

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They'll bunk off to their Italian villas and NYC penthouses.

Last I checked, Ghani is alive and well.

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They were being told that's what's going to happen ever since the SU breakup and Ukraine rush into the dream of joining NATO, but they didn't listen. For them the West and the USA has been God.

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I've decided that I am US-style "democracy"–averse if it means plunging forward into the wasteland of degraded reasoning and deep [s]hellholes of political despair responsible for the all those wounded "liberal" brain cells that result from daily plunges into the battlefields of the Times, Post, Guardian, and all the other rags designed solely to tick off casualties among critical thinkers, filling the graveyards of exceptioinalist America with the brain-dead zombies required for US-style "democracy" to flourish.

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It couldn't be any more obvious that the centre of Luciferianism on Earth is right there in Washington DC.

The crux of the Empire of Evil.

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The Great Satan!

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These aren't Luciferians. They're just Platonists reproducing the world in which excellence (however cheapened) can justify slavery. Just like you are.

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Ozzy and Black Sabbath had a song that sums it up, “War Pigs”

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Ozzy and his moron wife have come out in support of Ukraine unfortunately

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He has reaped the rewards of a life of excess, an addled mind being one such reward.

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Don’t be so judgmental, Hugh Hefner lived to be 91 and seemed to be a pretty happy geezer into his 80’s...

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Yeah, I'm neither moralising nor mocking the afflicted, Parkinson's Disease in Ozzie's case. I'm saying a decades long period of self abuse with all sorts of powdered material freely available to rock stars can end up addling the mind & probably the body if there's anything in the motto, "Healthy Mind in A Healthy Body". A guitarist friend of mine, now deceased, regularly went weeks without sleep with a constant stream of amphetamines followed by a serious heroin habit that landed him in a German prison where upon release he was left with Grand Mal epilepsy & other problems. It ain't the sex, it ain't the weed but imo it's the powders that are the killers with alcohol not far behind.

What's underpinning or responsible for manifestations of self abuse is another matter altogether.

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You may have noticed that Ozzie has never been known as a deep thinker.

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The Clash, "The Call Up" also a pretty good song.

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"Casualty amenable" LOL - though it is nothing to laugh about.

So let's hurry up and send them 50 year old F-16's so they can get blown out of the sky as well as on the ground.

This is just so gross.

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Aug 19, 2023·edited Aug 19, 2023

Gross. Obscene. If people were only shown the images of the ongoing war - of all the people slaughtered including civilians - killed indiscriminately as collateral damage.

It is murder on a mass scale and we're all suppose to cheer it on.

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Yes, and now glorifying the Ukrainian "heroes" who have lost limbs and worse, a'la U.S. propaganda such as "first responders," since 9/11. Like a f'ing badge of honor to be sacrificed at the altar of U.S. hegemony.

And we only need look to our own V.A. facilities and care to see how much our Government really doesn't give a shit - all lip service and faux heroism. But no-one around to pick up the broken pieces left when their conquest is complete.

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Exactly. But ever try telling a pumped up American kid that just before he goes off to the recruiters. America has testosterone poisoning throughout the nation, put there by massive quantities of tortured beef brought to market weight quickly with steroids and hormones. This is a collapsing nation. Get used to it.

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Suicides are up as well.

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Many in the West are practically masturbatory.

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It would be probably impactful if some Ukrainian and Russian troops had phone video of the slaughter that American media is referencing like a board game.

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NYT:

“When pressed the senior Pentagon official said, “well, we’ve developed a Western Remote War Ethos, a drone/robot mentality, and that’s how we’ve started to see these frontline troops. We’d supply robot troops for the counteroffensive but it’s our finance and environment departments that determine the better option of using Ukrainian mothers to bear live soldiers.”

He added “they’re cheaper, organic and biodegradable. Looking at disposability, broken and dead bodies are more economical, and anyway that cost is outsourced, and it’s environmentally advantageous in contrast to dealing with robotic waste.”

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Funny, but incredibly true and grim.

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Those US "officials" are working overtime - with the full support of the corporate media - to craft the cover story and propaganda campaign for their own corrupt lies and failures and the fact that the Russians have destroyed those crappy US/NATO weapons systems the west as spent trillions on. I blame Biden big time, and the warmongering corporate democrats (who now include AOC and the all faux "progressives" in Congress and other places).

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This “war” was meant to enrich Raytheon et al and use up our stock pile of outdated ordanence (sp?)we couldn’t sell to Israel, to be a full employment scheme for the NYT et al, and to make sure everyone ignored Hunter and the Laptop. So, basically, it’s been a suck-cess. America doesn’t win wars. America profits from wars, win or lose. Read Michael Parenti on the Romans.

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What I fear is some kind of escalation the West will not be able to walk back from. The longer this goes on, without some concession, or Zelensky still running this slaughterfest - the more we are all at risk this thing involves more nations or someone is stupid enough to set off a tactical nuke.

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Your Ukraine flag won’t get you into Heaven anymore

They’re already overcrowded from your dirty proxy war

(Apologies to John Prine)

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It often happens that the USA is compared to the former Roman Empire (although we have to admit that this is a humiliating comparison to the former Romans 😉 ), but perhaps this time it is apt, because it was the favorite entertainment of the Romans that they let gladiators fight each other in the amphitheatres, just like the uneducated American " patricians "incited the two Slavic nations against each other and now they want to see more blood in the arena !

Well, you can't accuse me of Ukrainian sympathy, but I know for a fact that one thing can never be blamed on the Ukrainians, that they lack courage ! Especially a nation that has lost every single war in the last fifty years (yes Grenada was there, you beat the Cuban construction workers 😉 ) let's look at Vietnam, but let's look at the last "glory" when a tribe in sandals kicked you in the ass ! And let's not forget that the net is full (which you haven't been able to delete yet) with videos where whiny American and British mercenaries cry that the nasty Russians kicked their ass !

Kissinger was right that being the enemy of the USA is not a good thing, but being its friend is fatal ! Sooner or later the Ukrainians will also realize this, I'm telling you now that there will still be serious consequences !

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When one fights for the interests of another - no matter how brave - that's called stupidity, not courage. And the Ukrainians proved stupid beyond any imagination.

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Well, I'm not disputing that either !

I never understood how a people born from the same source could be incited against another, when in an average Ukrainian family it is not known where the Ukrainian and Russian kinship begins ! I say this from experience!

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That's called civil war and that's what this one is. One part (the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR) has been thoroughly brainwashed with Bandera ideology, one of hate towards Russia. The West actively promoted it. The rest of the world couldn't care less all these last three-four decades but it was well known by those who paid attention.

While at it ask yourself what Polish hatred of Russia is based on. It's centuries old. And it's been said by blood they're the closest to the Russians among western Slavs.

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Must be all that Intermarium intermarrying.

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America will sacrifice more than Ukraine to maintain the Dollah Hegemony. The UK helped start TWO "world wars" to keep the Sterling Reserve Currency.

THIS time, Russia and China are aware of the stakes involved.

In a strange way, they are fortunate that Trump didn't win, his random trolling would have obfuscated Imperial matters more than the "laser-focused" neoconservative Biden Regime has.

According to the Duran's Two Alexanders, this is most likely to go nuclear.

Joy, joy.

At least with biological WMDs, GAIA has removed the human "civilisation" menace alone.

Such depressing thoughts.

500,000 souls dead to "Bleed" their competitors.

I'd love to read "Unnamed official sources today joined in the front line meat-assaults and took heavy casualties, Ukrainians hope for diplomatic solution soon.".

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Remember, we were willing to sacrifice 500,000 Iraqi children just to destabilize Iraq as a regional power and hopefully be able to dip our corporate fingers into their resources. A few hundred thousand dead Ukrainians is nothing for these psychopaths to lose sleep over. And the CIA literally gave kill lists out in multiple coups around the world that resulted in our proxies killing *millions*.

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Hard to say “like” but yes—you are absolutely correct.

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File under "Who Needs Enemies When the US is Your Friend."

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