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Mark's avatar

The Dems are just the other fang of the ruling snake.

But they smile & feign decency rather than the upfront, undiluted kkkuntiness of the Republicans.

Different roles same outcome.

Uncle Scam & the child mass-murderer it arms in West Asia are charring humanity's soul. All involved in enabling, facilitating, & covering for are complicit in this century's most heinous crime against humanity.

If only they had the spirit, compassion. & courage of those they're trying to eradicate in Palestine.

FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸

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Moe's avatar

That's basically what Malcom x said about the "white liberals"...but yeah, they're the same. They each preach to their choirs, then high five each other behind closed doors.

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Stephen Walker's avatar

The term “ethnic cleansing” doesn’t exist in international humanitarian law. It only entered the lexicon during the breakup of Yugoslavia in the 1990s, instigated and facilitated by NATO. What you’re referring to is one or a combination of: (a) mass forced displacement of a civilian population; (b) mass deliberate extermination of a civilian population; or (c) genocide. This is clearly a genocide, and the population is not going to be forced into leaving en masse. Already probably between 25% and 33% of the population has been exterminated through killings and deprivation. This is all documented. And yet the entire world excluding Yemen does nothing. Human society is basically fucked. There is no coming back from letting a live-streamed genocide take place for 18 months unimpeded.

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Ron Stockton's avatar

Those are my thoughts. How does a society recover from enabling, encouraging, facilitating, supporting, and watching a genocide live? The mask is off. We now all know that our western society is corrupt, depraved, and evil. The only answer is to destroy western society and start over. It will be messy.

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CK's avatar

“Ethnic cleansing” is a euphemism. The slaughter or displacement of Native Americans was not known as “cleansing”. It was upholding the slogan of “The only good injun is a dead injun.”

Israel may be emulating the past practices of its sponsor.

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gypsy33's avatar

Correct, CK.

And additionally, the slaughter of millions of Africans kidnapped for the Amerikkkan institution of slavery.

Perhaps Caitlin won’t say this but I will: Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade (see: African American Professor Tony Martin.)

This nation was built on genocide; any wonder the guvvmint supports it?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade (see: African American Professor Tony Martin.)"

I'll have to disagree with you on this Gypsy. The myth of 'Jewish involvement' to any serious/noteworthy extent has been debunked repeatedly.

While Jews participated in the British transatlantic slave trade, they were not the most active investors in slaving companies or the owners of the highest numbers of slaves.

The Jewish role in the American slave trade was minimal. There were Jewish owners of plantations, but altogether they constituted only a tiny proportion of the industry. Jews accounted for approx. 1.25% of all Southern slave owners and were not significantly different from other slave owners in their treatment of slaves.

In 1830 there were only four Jews among the 11,000 Southerners who owned fifty or more slaves. Additionally, only one Jew served as an overseer on a plantation according to public records.

In regard to the slave trade itself, Jews accounted for less than 2% of the 600,000 slaves brought to the United States and less than 1% of the 10 million slaves brought to the New World.

Some references:

(1) https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/debunking-the-jewish-slave-trade-myth/

(2) Project MUSE - Jews, Slaves, and the Slave Trade (https://muse.jhu.edu/article/17716)

For a more detailed discussion, I refere you to the following subReddit -> "How much validity is there to the claims that Jews were major players in the Atlantic slave trade" (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/cp1feo/how_much_validity_is_there_to_the_claims_that/)

Gypsy, I'm not defending Jews here, I'm more interested in historical accuracy.

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CK's avatar
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To be fair, while some slave merchants may have been opportunistic Jews, most Jews had nothing to do with slavery.

Slavery was, and may still be, an instrument of Capitalists. Slaves were valuable property and had “book value” as assets, unlike employees who can be discharged at any time without affecting their employers’ balance sheets.

Africans who were captured for slavery were too valuable to be slaughtered, although many died in captivity during transport to their future Capitalist owners.

The “guvvmint” was established by elites who were dependent upon genocide, slavery, indentured servants and low-paid employees. They wrote and adopted the Constitution to uphold their interests in perpetuity.

The Monroe Doctrine claims US control over all of North and South America, but private Capitalist corporations of the USA seek global control.

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Kojo's avatar

The Lebanese and Syrians were also aiding the Palestininans. Thus the US helped Israel remove them from the way. And is attempting to do the same with the Yemenis. And the Iranians.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Biden, Trump, Clinton, Obama

All of a piece, I think, Oh Mama,

Cut from a mold, made in America

Kill anyone daring to resist the hysteria

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

We're just ready about to hit rock bottom. Better hope there's some bounce in the abyss.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I don't know, Joy; I thought abysses were bottomless by nature. Certainly, if ours (the US's) indeed has a bottom, I'd hate to think what detritus one might find there to bounce upon. Ouch!

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gypsy33's avatar

Vin, it might be more like “squish”…as in decomposing bodies

😐

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Likely so, gyp, lotta corpses in the wake of the empire's speedboat.

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Feral Finster's avatar

So tell us some more about how voting Team D would change anything!

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Only the specific faces muttering nonsequiturs, and the mouthpiece "press secretary" they throw up there to tell us s(he) can't say anything about anything.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

I see you figured out the edit the name function!! Thanks for joining me. fiFP.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I did, thanks. We need others to join us in the fiFP group. By the way, folks, the uppercase "FP", stand for Free Palestine. Can anyone guess what the lowercase "fi" stands for?

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Jane's avatar

Thank you for your clarity, Caitlin and for “the Hitler-was-right kind or the stop-bombing-hospitals kind?” Such a perfect rejoinder. I’m going to use it.

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Warrior CRPS's avatar

Same!

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Mitch Ritter's avatar

I don't have many fellow American takers for this bit of free-floating consulting advocacy I've been giving away for decades of frustrating activism: Draw attention to the record of Washington, J-Salem, Ottawa, Moscow, Beijing, Paris, London, Madrid, Lisbon, Ankara, Tehran, Khartoum, Jakarta (oh take the time to read paperback book-length confessional classic by Peter Dale Scott "COMING TO JAKARTA".... Scandinavian states for that matter, despite their comparatively sublime or perhaps more accurately subtle approach to colonialism. Most recently Riyadh and Doha as the Arabian Gulf states flex their reach in global prospecting and speculating.....

AIR FORCE v. NO AIR FORCE. Nearly a perfect record from WW II to present. Nation-states with Air Force insist on controlling skies before they begin putting boots on the ground to change borders or otherwise re-align resources and maps.

When we or the silver spoon-fed News Media do acknowledge the intrinsic inequity in who the world's Masters of War truly are that slippage of the Perp Mask (if the world were just then we'd get on our screens ample Photo Ops of Perp Walk for these bid-net Masters of War)....And the firehose of Public Relations & other bastard kids of Edward Bernays might be more recognizable and generating some talk-back like this and these sorts of PR placements....

https://media.defense.gov/2010/Sep/22/2001330059/-1/-1/0/AFD-100922-020.pdf

Never issued by a Department of Offense. Always from The Department of Defense..........

Whenever you encounter such fun-house mirrors, find a way to subvert. We've been falling behind since the passing of THE REALIST and its stand-up prowling activist-in-front Paul Krassner....

"AI Overview

Learn more..."

"Paul Krassner was more than just an activist; he was a prominent figure in the counterculture movement and a key player in urban activism, often found on the front lines of protests and social movements. He founded the underground magazine The Realist and co-founded the Youth International Party (Yippies), becoming known as "the father of the underground press". Krassner's activism extended to the anti-Vietnam war movement and other social causes, demonstrating his direct involvement in the struggles he covered. He was a writer, satirist, and editor, contributing to the counterculture's voice and often found in the midst of its clashes with mainstream society."

Tio Mitchito

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dale ruff's avatar

It is not a war; it is a massacre. When those being massacred fight back, they are terrorists; when the IDF drops the 2000 lb unguided bombs Biden, in his one act of protest in a sea of permissions, stopped supplying and Trump has resumed providing, in a "targeted killing designed to spare civilian harm," on an apartment or tent city full of families, it is not terrorism but self-defense.... and so it is language which shield the guilty, and I applaud all those, from Socrates to Voltaire to Orwell to Caitlin, who deconstruct lies to uncover the truth being concealed.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

RIP, Pope Francis. I feel sure he will go to Gaza in spirit. Everyday, while he was alive he spoke by phone with the Holy Family church in Gaza. Here’s my petition, which I have updated to call on the new Pope, to go, whoever the new one is. Let's keep the pressure on.


Call on the (new) Pope to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing:

https://chng.it/gkvBfY44rq

Please sign the petition and share widely.

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gypsy33's avatar

Joy, I do hope that the next pope is the Irish cardinal…Ferrell, I believe his name is?

Or maybe we could go with Feral Finster? 😉

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Landru's avatar

Thank you Caitlin. I didn't believe them to begin with. I don't have words at the evil of the u.s. Gov. if you can call it a government.

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Mitch Ritter's avatar

For better or worse, not only can we & all the rest "Call it a government..." we should note how it has been the template for such the world over since trans-national re-mapping Post WW II......dba "The Undertaking," "Breaking Ground," "Development," "Excavating," "Urban Renewal,..." "Suburban re-purposing..." and my favorite "Housing the Homeless...." let loose with all of the euphemysms and neo-logisms or branded and trademarked names"™" keep 'em coming and 'Mind the utility gap'!

Tio Mitchito

Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers

Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of A-Tone-ment Seekers)

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Mikhael's avatar

When the stars finally align and unites us, the Universe will extract its retribution upon these bastards. Not sure I want to be around, but it might be fun to watch.

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gypsy33's avatar

Bring out the popcorn, Mikhael!

I wanna see that mushroom cloud over Tel-a-fucking-Viv!

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Mikhael's avatar

It could happen!

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Mitch Ritter's avatar

Here's a 2-song set contemplating your contemplation and why I'll have to withdraw from such endeavors while attempting to follow this too-long overlooked and unsung inner city Chicago late 20th C. bard of note if not laurels, the late great Terry Callier, Z"L alav ha'Shalom\alayhi (a)s Salaam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-tdcp1wq6U

Terry Callier Fix the blame 02/10/2010 BOTW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA523e0MmOU

Terry Callier - Nobody But Yourself To Blame (Live)

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"Welcome Home was recorded live at London's Jazz Cafe and captures another magical performance from Terry and his long standing band." Euro gigs they had and often broadcast as U. of Tube archives elsewhere. Not too many appearances, however on the home inner city fronts.....

And unless or until Terry pulls a "Lazarus Man" here is a free-floating encore from one of his appearances at Glastonbury Fest in UK where his livelihood was ressurrected after teaching computer science at U. of Chicago and taking other gigs for a decade or more to raise his blessed daughter here in our country rather than be appearing on broadcast media around the globe (as he was invited to do often on Euro states and Canadian broadcasting) or able to tour full-time spreading his songs and growing within his protean shifty band(s):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8KFpETk0MI

Terry Callier live 2

"Candyman (I Know You Rider)" adapted by TC

lyrics here and (C) Terrence O. Callier, Phyllis Braxton: Butler Music

https://www.google.com/search?q=Terry+Callier+song+lyric+%22I+know+you+rider%5CCandyman....

You're Goin' Miss Your Candyman

Song by Terry Callier ‧ 1972

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Live in Glastonbury Festival

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Tio Mitchito

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

If humans don't abandon going down the retribution road, then we won't survive.

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mois78's avatar

We have to admit that USA and the West are colonies of Israel. The reality is much worst than that? It is like working for a brutal monster who fires and beat his employees all the times. Biden, Trump, Macaroni,..all these servants of Natenyahu shaking in their boots worrying about upsetting their master.

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Ron Stockton's avatar

I think you are wrong. Israel is a colony of white, western capitalism/fascism/imperialism. This did not start in Palestine, it started in Europe.

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Susan's avatar

Both are true. I think Zionism started in Europe and us is now master to is due to unchecked greed and perversion. Very sad

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

April 2025 – Washington, D.C. / Brussels

The Hind Rajab Foundation has filed a request for prosecution in the United States against Yuval Shatel, an Israeli soldier accused of serious violations of international humanitarian law during Israel’s military campaign in Gaza.

The request, which outlines the evidence and criminal charges against Shatel, was submitted to both the U.S. Department of Justice and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and calls for Shatel’s immediate arrest and prosecution under U.S. federal law for:

War crimes under 18 U.S.C. § 2441

Conspiracy to commit war crimes under 18 U.S.C. § 371

Genocide and conspiracy to commit genocide under 18 U.S.C. § 1091

The Hind Rajab Foundation can use our help. Please join me in making a contribution.

https://buy.stripe.com/cN228hbY5g7jaM84gg

To know more about The Hind Rajab Foundation, there are a couple of really good interviews that Glenn Greenwald did on his Rumble platform, and Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada, did with the head of this organisation, Dyad Abou Jahjah. It was very informative.

Here's a petition calling for accountability for the arrest of Ali Abunimah in Switzerland for the crime of speaking about Palestinian rights:

https://chng.it/8D4pkxPhWS

Please sign the petition and share widely.

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BornAlive's avatar

it is the HEIGHT of bullying racism flagrantly destroying human life. cynical brutal and inhumane. we all should be deeply ashamed of it

or anything like it happening on the planet today.

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Jim S's avatar

Thank You Caitlin

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Rodolfo Marusi Guareschi's avatar

We can also call it genocide, murder, holocaust, extermination, massacre, carnage, hecatomb, slaughter, massacre, slaughter, martyrdom, femicide, infanticide but, in my opinion, the most appropriate definition for what Israel is doing to the people of Gaza is “premeditated multiple murder”.

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