Genocide Joe has lost the election due to his full support of genocide. Which means women's access to health care is at risk and all marginalized people will be in more risk in the States. I still don't understand how we can afford to fund state sponsored murder but cant get health care. There's never any money for Healthcare, a living wage, or access to education but ALWAYS money for weapons and arms. It's disgusting. Joe Biden is disgusting and a failure.
For four decades liberals and progressives in the Untied States have been told that they need to hold their noses and vote for the 'Lesser Evil' over and over, and with a sigh we've had to do that simply to prevent the election of something even worse. Never before has the 'Lesser Evil' been so blatantly evil though.
Apathy is going to play a huge part in the 2024 election as our only allowed choices are someone who endorses genocide and ethnic cleansing or someone who is rather clearly insane. I'm not the only person who is saying, "A pox on both their houses."
My vote is counted in a very Blue state so I will feel zero ethical issues when I vote Green party in 2024. I'm not going to vote between two people who clearly have zero moral compass. I won't.
My state, Michigan, went (barely) for ByeDone in 2020. But due to our large Arab and Muslim population, he’s goin’ down BIGTIME in 24. He won their popular vote once; now they’re collectively flipping him the bird.
And he can’t win without Michigan. Good fucking riddance!
Trump will be even worse on Foreign affairs. I like RFK except for his position on Israel Zionism but I think he might be more balanced. There’s literally nobody who checks all my boxes
Biden did exactly the same stuff as Trump, except Trump was at least somewhat restrained by the fact that Dem's were constantly looking for any mistake by Trump's rather lame appointees, whereas Blinken/Sullivan get a blank check - despite epic crimes and fiasco
I too, am voting for either Claudia De La Cruz or for Jill Stein. If I can’t write either of them in, then I’m leaving the presidential race & others blank (if there aren’t other candidates I can write for them, too).
I haven’t voted for Democrats since I’ve fully woke up to them last year.
Yes!!! Also I wish more people understood the importance of down ballot voting and getting real progressives into office in city and state governments.
And I wish that more people understood that while the GOP actually believes in the bad shit they do, the Dems really only regard those issues as useful and divisive campaign blather. The Dems will NEVER fix anything they can campaign on.
Nope. At the top, both party control structures are just as cynical. Being the most effective intelligent sociopaths possible requires that the managers hold no illusions.
Sarah I asked my two doctor daughters, one in WI, and one in NY, both Democratic Party voters, if a Trump win "means women's access to health care is at risk and all marginalized people will be in more risk in the States'?
Sorry thay you didn't educate your daughters on SCOTUS or Roe vs Wade or they haven't seen what is happening to women in red states? Sheltering your daughters wasn't the best idea, was it. Oh and I am sure your boring anecdotal story about 2 alleged women in your life is actual reality.
Well, there really are more than two houses here. Our system is rigged, but there are alternatives beyon the electoral, electric fence. One could vote for Jill Stein again, or for Dr. Cornel West, or for Cladia de la Cruz, and perhaps others. If the percentage of people voting third party were to begin to challenge the numbers voting for the duopoly, we might begin to build real democracy in the America. What a thought!
It’s easy to give up knowing our political system is rigged by unelected bureaucrats and oligarchs. But we shouldn’t rollover for them either. I’ll vote for the person most disruptive to imperialistic endeavors
Voting is an illusion ..the only reason they encourage it is so you sign and date the civil contract that you agree to abide by the dictates of the next cleverly installed puppet..
Oh and don't forget to sign and date all those tax checks like obedient little serfs too.
This was predictable from miles away. Personally, I will never forget the arrogance of those who relentlessly smeared (or did worse, such as doxxed or ruined people's employment) those on the Left who refused to vote blue no matter who. Instead, the obviously corrupt Democratic party chose the strategy of beating its base into submission, like any narcissistic abuser - threatening that you had to vote for a rotting pile of corrupt shit Joe Biden, or else!
our access to healthcare is already at risk, and that is due to the minuet between both parties on healthcare. Trump is a opportunity of the "chaos is a ladder" sort. nobody else can beat Genocide Joe. there are several thousand children in Gaza that will never need healthcare, thank to Joe's support of genocide. both parties are rigged, neither one cares about whether you live or die.
You have a chronic case of TDS it seems Sarah. Trump Derangement Syndrome.
TDS is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason.
TDS can be broken down into three distinct phases or stages:
1. In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-
elect’s every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140-characters were all it took to
change the world.
2. The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim’s vocabulary:
Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of hyperbole.
3. As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.
I'm describing exactly what you are. You should re-read some of the responses (from other posters) to your abusive messages on this board, you narcissistic "know-it-all" jackass.
Our ghoulish corporate overlords, and how pathetic that they are considered a less evol choice than the Ethno-Christian nationalist party known as the GOP.
‘It’s not about you. People opposing an active genocide is not about you. It’s not about your religion. It’s not about your feelings. It’s not about whether your feelings feel safe on an elite university campus. It’s about ending an active genocide. It has nothing to do with you.’
YES.
Thanks for keeping up the pressure. And for your heart.
Biden is trying to have it both ways. Apologists will make excuses for the old turd, just as they did for Obama "oh, but he had a sad when he signed that kid's death warrant!" "Oh, but he had 'serious misgivings' when he started the latest war of aggression!"
None of that matters, except so humans can rationalize their evil deeds, and a particularly weak rationalization at that. The kids are dead and the war started just the same.
I don't think you're wrong. Afterall, our corporate overloards, weapons manufactures, and their shareholders need to make record profits!!!! And in order for that to happen we need to fund genocide!!!!
The United States of American has never, and will never, go directly to war against a country with a real army. Period. The name of countries they have engaged since WWII: North Korea , Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Lebanon, Gernada, Panama, Iraq (after 10 years of blockading and when its army was a shadow of what it once was), and The Taliban of Afghanistan. It did go to war with Iraq in 1991, but with a massive coalition and even then it quickly ended it and pulled out. In not a single instance can we say that the US won the war.
So, no, the US is not going to go to war with Iran or China or anyone. They may foment it and may get proxies to go to war, but they will never commit troops to go fight a real army.
As for Ukraine: They are NOT going to get the military aid they are asking for. Ukraine's consolation prize will be conditional, phased admitance to EU with lots of strings attached -- to save face. Otherwise, they are going to have to kiss 20% of their territory goodbye and say thank you.
You are right. I meant they pulled out of combat and took off and left a residual presence, like they have in South Korea and Syria. The main point is that they did not win that war -- Iraq is now a satellite of Iran.
Very true. I withdraw the observation and amend my initial point: "The US has never won a war and in some instances, even continues to fight them to this day, in some instances, decades on (e.g., Korea and Iraq)."
Yep- military industrial complex at work. Iran enabled too by Biden admin. They are getting lots of money, overlooking nuclear capability. This is how they will reset economy- a war in middle east, nukes start flying, Russia comes in, China, US takes several hits and surrenders. US strategy now is take a first strike, since the 90s but now with Russia nukes, a first strike will take out several major cities. Not pretty. And the elite all have a path to underground facilities.
I don't think so. The socialist Globalists want to reset the US and get rid of the guns and constitution. The elites will hide underground while we get nuked, then surrender, and submit to a global gov't. The US is too powerful, the people too free and dangerous.
Yes but prob not Iran, I think, and maybe not til after the election.
Given the state of the US military - not ready for p2p conflict, and their goal of rearming for a final attempt to intimidate China late in the decade... US likely to pick on someone with higher chance of success - and ofc on Israel's target list. Pretty much Syria or Lebanon. Outside chance of Yemen, but I doubt it - they shook off the equally genocidal US-Saudi starvation and bombing campaign of the past decade, and still taking potshots at US navy ... a little too much like Vietnam there.
Guessing that war it will be the next Israeli PM's price to Trump for their support in '24.
Thank you Caitlin. The US is a failed state as far as I'm concerned. Biden's only doing what the US has done for decades. He's just a more disgusting iteration of the same ole same ole.
Sorry to hear of the gas lighting and abuse you must experience for defending the plight of the Palestinians and atrocities that are continually committed against them. I think a lot of people must find strength in your lucid and engaging commentary. I’m sure those poor souls in Palestine will be eternally grateful for anyone advocating on their behalf. Good luck.
“Hamas can end this any time by surrendering” really just means “Israel gets to keep murdering Gaza’s children until Gaza’s government gives it what it wants.” Gaza's government could not give Israel what it wants. it wants Palestinians to disappear.
I think Biden’s deep Christian roots programmed him like a robot to support and defend Israel no matter what Israel does. I think the Bible is why many American Christians on the right and on the left still support Israel. I think it doesn’t matter who is president next, they will support Israel. I think they all have their heads up where the sun never shines, and I wonder if that will ever change? I also wonder if the people running Hamas now wish they had nor ordered the October 7 attack, and I wonder why they have not offered to return all the hostages that were taken,, if Israel will stop attacking Gaza and will pull its troops out of Gaza?
Have to disagree. ByeDone’s Catholic. I was raised Catholic, and we were NOT Zionazis; in fact, the nuns at my school expressed no love lost between Catholics and Jews.
ByeDone’s a Ziobitch because it benefits him monetarily. It’s all about the Benjamin’s, ya know.
Well, something has programmed Biden like a robot to back Israel to the hilt, so far. I know. t, by living among them, that a lot of Christians on the left and on the right are fully being Israel, and that is rooted in their religious beliefs - the Bible. I recall Donald Trump telling America and Israel that he was Israels best friend. So, if Trump gets elected in 2024, I expect him to live up to that. The irony is, Biden is losing votes by continuing to send Israel money, weapons and munitions, which increases the odds of Trump being elected in 2024. My hope is something will happen, perhaps in the courts, to take Trump out of that race, but even if that happens, most Republicans and I suppose all MAGAs are fully behind Israel, and the Republican candidate, if it not Trump, will be fully behind Israel. Where I live, Alabama, Israel supporters could care less what the UN, the rest of the world, or Americans against Israel, think.
Meanwhile, I still wonder if the people leading Hamas wish they had not ordered the October 7 attack, and why they have not offered to release all their hostages in exchange for Israel stopping its devastation of Gaza? I am left thinking Hamas wanted Israel to do what it is doing in Gaza, as part of some draconian scheme to turn the entire world against Israel. But I don’t think it will ever turn the Bible thumpers in America against Israel. They will never side with Islam against Israel.
As far as I know, very few Catholics crack open the Bible, which I think dates back to when the Catholic mass was in Latin and only Catholic priests, bishops, cardinals and the pope read the Bible :-). I think there is more than AIPAC driving Biden, but that probably doesn’t matter. Clearly, he is talking out of both sides of his mouth, and clearly he does not want to cut off money, weapons and munitions to Israel, and he’s losing votes over that, and maybe he won’t be the Democratic candidate for president in 2024, and maybe he will. I can’t imagine any Democratic candidate campaigning on stopping aid to Israel, as long as the Republicans and the MAGAS exist :-). I hope something happens that gets Israel’s attention and it stands down. because I see no way it can defeat Hamas in Gaza, and I think IDF has already figured that out, but it is dealing with religious fanatics running Israel, and both IDF and those fanatics are looking really bad for ignoring lots of warnings that Hamas was about to attack Israel, and male egos are involved big time, and religious beliefs are involved big time, and it's a perfect mix that only someone like Steven King might dream up in a sequel to The Stand?
Sloan Bashinsky, What do you think will happen if " Hamas offers to release all their hostages in exchange for Israel stopping its devastation of Gaza"? Will the Israeli's take their war toys and go home? Are they going to re-build Gaza and let the Palestinians resume what's left of their lives? What will the US/West do as Israel's partners in crime?
A war crime and a genocide like no other is happening - the genocide cannot be undone, but the countries who voted for the carnage to stop should demand reparations and justice for the Palestinians.
Both parties 100% on board with permanent blank check to Israel. In that respect, it makes no difference who is elected. Don't think Catholic it has anything to do with it. (few in Congress give a rat's ass about religious doctrine. Biden flipped on abortion, for instance, to get the votes)
Really, few in Congress give a rat’s ass about religious doctrine. I bet just about every Republican in Congress would beg to disagree, and quite a few Democrats in Congress, too :-)
I am a Christian, but for over 50 years I have been a supporter of Palestinian rights who has been boycotting Israeli products.
Yes, I think the Bible probably does make a lot of Christians instinctively feel that the Israelis are the good guys. But in the past few weeks, a surprising number of people at church have said things to me that indicate that they don't think that is the case this time.
I’m seeing that, too, with some Christians where I live and on social media. Yet, I live in a very red state, and I have conversations with enough people to think any US president, or candidate for president, who sides with Hamas against Israel, or is perceived do that, willl lose to a candidate who to stands firm behind Israel.
Well, I live in rural Scotland, and political views over here are probably somewhat different from those where you are! An opinion poll a month ago showed that people in Scotland were more likely to be more sympathetic to the Palestinian side than the Israeli side, whereas in England and Wales, sympathies were pretty evenly split.
America is very different from where you live, which I visited a long time ago and loved it. Starting at Glasgow, I rented a car and drove up past Loch Ness to Inverness and over to Aberdeen (spelling?), and to St. Andrews and then to Edinburg, as I recall the itinerary. Beautiful countryside. A very different world back then, than now, which America’s made up war in Vietnam helped birth. Now we have judges and prosecutors and their families receiving death threats over abortion rulings and anything having to do with Donald Trump, who plainly told Israel he was their best friend, so imagine where the MAGAs and Republicans stand on Israel. And many Democrats stand the same on Israel.
"It’s not okay for grown adults to believe this." - but the thing is they aren't grown adults. They look like adults, but their brains never progressed past juvenile stage.
They are grown adults. That's the thing with all these episodes of massive sadistic cruelty. It wasn't done by animals, it wasn't done by developmentally disabled people, was done by regular humans. Sure the particularly crazy leaders may be nuts, but they would be nothing without their followers. The bulk of the deeds being done by the followers.... the responsibility thus lies with very ordinary humans. That's the problematic issue to confront.....
"They are grown adults" - in the physical sense, yes. Their brains haven't grown past video game stage, that's the problem. Age came alone, wisdom decided to take a pass.
Yeah I have a feeling - jackass Daddy Dennis and some new posters here have an agenda. Will hit back when appropriate with this asshole. Loves to dish at out, and sure can't take it. Typical narcissistic behavior.
Hope not. I've enjoyed your posts even though we had a few (in retrospect, entertaining) skirmishes ourselves. I think part of what is going on is the new election cycle is heating up - and Caitlin will inevitably be targeted by unscrupulous dickwads with an agenda. But these guys can't shut out numerous other commentators, they have no power to censor here - so their voices will not become dominate. Caitlin's comments section has grown, and is fairly unique among the substacks. I think its worth sticking around.
It's just a matter of costs vs benefits. Do I enjoy engaging with those characters? Absolutely not. But they need to be pushed back against, as the bullies don't understand any other behavior. Also to present them in a light that other commenters might appreciate.
But it gets tiring. Caitlin's posts will continue to be read, for sure.
“Hamas can end this any time by surrendering” really just means “Israel gets to keep murdering Gaza’s children until Gaza’s government gives it what it wants.” Which is about as evil a position as you can possibly imagine. This is not an acceptable position for any person to have."
Yeah, but try to convince someone that their "evil position" isn't acceptable when you have Genocide Joe and his gang setting a precedence that murdering children/civilians is just something the US does to stay good friends with its "aircraft carrier in the Middle East" a.k.a. Israel. The sociopaths just keep insisting that the murdering isn't happening. The latest is "those weren't babies--they were plastic dolls in incubators." It's unnerving. We need to invent a rubber room the size of a city to lock these evil-positioned/unacceptable persons up for good. #FreePalestine
Americans still have their bases in Germany and try to control our media and politics. Our politicians and media march in lockstep with the US and Israel even more than in Canada or elsewhere. My hope is the younger generation who have been taught to despise racism and understand the message of the Holocaust as resistance to government indoctrination. The public yelling and condemnation of pro-Palestinian activists is Fox on steroids.
I thought current US law prohibit US weapons sales and military aid to be used for offensive purposes or to kill civilians or violate international law or conduct ethnic cleansing and genocide.
Congress is letting Biden get away with bypassing Congressional approvals and vioalting US and international law.
Question for the Legal Eagles out there: Can some peace group or citizen sue to enforce the law? Do such groups have legal standing to sue? If so, why isn't homelike like Code Pink suing Biden? Biden is already being sued for complicity in genocide. A lawsuit to block US funding would be far more effective than the international criminal court enforcement of relying on a novel genocide prosecution in US federal court.
Are you willing to be the plaintiff? I’m a retired lawyer, who clerked for a U.S. District judge before practicing law, and there might be legal redress theoretically, but imagine the legal quagmire a federal judge would face, and imagine the appeals, and reflect on how it’s going in the federal and state court cases involving Donald Trump, and imagine lots of death threats the plaintiff and his/her lawyers and their families would receive, and would there be a favorable ruling against President Biden, and who would enforce it? Could anyone enforce it? I can imagine if President Biden cut off money, weapons and munitions Israel, he and his family would receive death threats. They might be killed. I think Biden knows that. I also think he should rise above it, because when he became president, his first duty was to that office, and that duty superseded all that came before.
You write: “Is there anything else I can do to end this sooner?” Yes, you can write about those who want the same things you want with concrete actions, such as freeing Marwan Barghouti.
Genocide Joe has lost the election due to his full support of genocide. Which means women's access to health care is at risk and all marginalized people will be in more risk in the States. I still don't understand how we can afford to fund state sponsored murder but cant get health care. There's never any money for Healthcare, a living wage, or access to education but ALWAYS money for weapons and arms. It's disgusting. Joe Biden is disgusting and a failure.
For four decades liberals and progressives in the Untied States have been told that they need to hold their noses and vote for the 'Lesser Evil' over and over, and with a sigh we've had to do that simply to prevent the election of something even worse. Never before has the 'Lesser Evil' been so blatantly evil though.
Apathy is going to play a huge part in the 2024 election as our only allowed choices are someone who endorses genocide and ethnic cleansing or someone who is rather clearly insane. I'm not the only person who is saying, "A pox on both their houses."
My vote is counted in a very Blue state so I will feel zero ethical issues when I vote Green party in 2024. I'm not going to vote between two people who clearly have zero moral compass. I won't.
Hi Sarah May
My state, Michigan, went (barely) for ByeDone in 2020. But due to our large Arab and Muslim population, he’s goin’ down BIGTIME in 24. He won their popular vote once; now they’re collectively flipping him the bird.
And he can’t win without Michigan. Good fucking riddance!
No Michigan is either going to vote for Trump or we need to push the party for a better candidate in 2024 while we still have time.
Trump will be even worse on Foreign affairs. I like RFK except for his position on Israel Zionism but I think he might be more balanced. There’s literally nobody who checks all my boxes
Biden did exactly the same stuff as Trump, except Trump was at least somewhat restrained by the fact that Dem's were constantly looking for any mistake by Trump's rather lame appointees, whereas Blinken/Sullivan get a blank check - despite epic crimes and fiasco
RFK? LOL. His vocal fry alone disqualifies him.
Stein or West is a far better choice.
I too, am voting for either Claudia De La Cruz or for Jill Stein. If I can’t write either of them in, then I’m leaving the presidential race & others blank (if there aren’t other candidates I can write for them, too).
I haven’t voted for Democrats since I’ve fully woke up to them last year.
Yes!!! Also I wish more people understood the importance of down ballot voting and getting real progressives into office in city and state governments.
And I wish that more people understood that while the GOP actually believes in the bad shit they do, the Dems really only regard those issues as useful and divisive campaign blather. The Dems will NEVER fix anything they can campaign on.
Nope. At the top, both party control structures are just as cynical. Being the most effective intelligent sociopaths possible requires that the managers hold no illusions.
Sarah I asked my two doctor daughters, one in WI, and one in NY, both Democratic Party voters, if a Trump win "means women's access to health care is at risk and all marginalized people will be in more risk in the States'?
They both agree that that's just woke nonsense.
Take care my dear.
And I'm not your 'dear' how dare you be so familiar with me. Gross.
Sorry thay you didn't educate your daughters on SCOTUS or Roe vs Wade or they haven't seen what is happening to women in red states? Sheltering your daughters wasn't the best idea, was it. Oh and I am sure your boring anecdotal story about 2 alleged women in your life is actual reality.
Many of us feel the same, so much so, that Stein or West may find enough votes if we work hard. I will : ) Genocide Joe has to GO : )
Same deal in the UK. Starmer's neo liberal, genocide supporting, anti workers Labour is the non choice here
I left Labour after they expelled Corbyn. I couldn't stand it anymore.
Good man. We need a new movement
Well, there really are more than two houses here. Our system is rigged, but there are alternatives beyon the electoral, electric fence. One could vote for Jill Stein again, or for Dr. Cornel West, or for Cladia de la Cruz, and perhaps others. If the percentage of people voting third party were to begin to challenge the numbers voting for the duopoly, we might begin to build real democracy in the America. What a thought!
It’s easy to give up knowing our political system is rigged by unelected bureaucrats and oligarchs. But we shouldn’t rollover for them either. I’ll vote for the person most disruptive to imperialistic endeavors
Voting is an illusion ..the only reason they encourage it is so you sign and date the civil contract that you agree to abide by the dictates of the next cleverly installed puppet..
Oh and don't forget to sign and date all those tax checks like obedient little serfs too.
"someone who endorses genocide and ethnic cleansing" - good thing he is not insane. He just loves to kill people.
This was predictable from miles away. Personally, I will never forget the arrogance of those who relentlessly smeared (or did worse, such as doxxed or ruined people's employment) those on the Left who refused to vote blue no matter who. Instead, the obviously corrupt Democratic party chose the strategy of beating its base into submission, like any narcissistic abuser - threatening that you had to vote for a rotting pile of corrupt shit Joe Biden, or else!
Because the USA gives all that to israel.. We are all the deplorable.
our access to healthcare is already at risk, and that is due to the minuet between both parties on healthcare. Trump is a opportunity of the "chaos is a ladder" sort. nobody else can beat Genocide Joe. there are several thousand children in Gaza that will never need healthcare, thank to Joe's support of genocide. both parties are rigged, neither one cares about whether you live or die.
And always was disgusting and a failure
It's sad that the only reason he won is because he isn't Trump, not because he is doing anything new. He's a right wing meat head.
You have a chronic case of TDS it seems Sarah. Trump Derangement Syndrome.
TDS is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason.
TDS can be broken down into three distinct phases or stages:
1. In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-
elect’s every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140-characters were all it took to
change the world.
2. The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim’s vocabulary:
Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of hyperbole.
3. As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.
Seek help my dear
Lol, ok. And you have chronically shitstained underwear. Good luck with that!
Classy lady! NOT
More abuse ... Talk about "classy".
Jesus - what a fucking arrogant asshole you are Dennis.
Your usual valuable contribution to the discussion eh! NOT.
You are a potty mouth low-life.
How does that work out or you in your life jamenta?
Pretty successful eh?
You need to start hanging out with a better class of losers my friend
I'm describing exactly what you are. You should re-read some of the responses (from other posters) to your abusive messages on this board, you narcissistic "know-it-all" jackass.
Brought to us by a corrupt corporate dnc
Our ghoulish corporate overlords, and how pathetic that they are considered a less evol choice than the Ethno-Christian nationalist party known as the GOP.
they are not a lesser evil. they are a more effective evil. they infest both parties.
IF we have an election.
Pedo language is MAGA trash
Yeah even though the majority of people raping children in the US are church leaders.
It's not just the Catholics. I read about 5 to 10 examples a week of the other Christians raping children. Youth pastors are common.
I don't know about pedo-dollars but I do love Bilbo Baggins
‘It’s not about you. People opposing an active genocide is not about you. It’s not about your religion. It’s not about your feelings. It’s not about whether your feelings feel safe on an elite university campus. It’s about ending an active genocide. It has nothing to do with you.’
YES.
Thanks for keeping up the pressure. And for your heart.
Biden is trying to have it both ways. Apologists will make excuses for the old turd, just as they did for Obama "oh, but he had a sad when he signed that kid's death warrant!" "Oh, but he had 'serious misgivings' when he started the latest war of aggression!"
None of that matters, except so humans can rationalize their evil deeds, and a particularly weak rationalization at that. The kids are dead and the war started just the same.
Two Biden Body Doubles , Note Old Age Disintegration Of Real Biden's Chin "Can't unsee it." :-)
https://rense.com/general97/biden-body-doubles.php
Biden Meets With Families Of 8 American Captives Still Held In Gaza (These "American captives" are all active-duty Israeli soldiers.)
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-meets-families-8-american-captives-still-held-gaza
I had to look for pictures of the meeting. It looks like the real chinless-Joe.
https://twitter.com/FOX2News/status/1735121219186274419/photo/1
Lipless as well, Dr. John!
Those who interpret facial features conclude that one should NEVER trust anyone without lips. Dubya was another one.
I don't trust anyone *with* lips.
My 2024 predictions - all just my opinion....
We are being set up for war with Iran. IMO, nukes will fly. It seems to me that Zelensky and Israel are eager for nukes.
Zelensky will be getting his $60 billion, and Ukraine will be admitted to the EU, to enable direct war with Russia.
I don't think you're wrong. Afterall, our corporate overloards, weapons manufactures, and their shareholders need to make record profits!!!! And in order for that to happen we need to fund genocide!!!!
The United States of American has never, and will never, go directly to war against a country with a real army. Period. The name of countries they have engaged since WWII: North Korea , Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Lebanon, Gernada, Panama, Iraq (after 10 years of blockading and when its army was a shadow of what it once was), and The Taliban of Afghanistan. It did go to war with Iraq in 1991, but with a massive coalition and even then it quickly ended it and pulled out. In not a single instance can we say that the US won the war.
So, no, the US is not going to go to war with Iran or China or anyone. They may foment it and may get proxies to go to war, but they will never commit troops to go fight a real army.
As for Ukraine: They are NOT going to get the military aid they are asking for. Ukraine's consolation prize will be conditional, phased admitance to EU with lots of strings attached -- to save face. Otherwise, they are going to have to kiss 20% of their territory goodbye and say thank you.
The United Snakes military can’t even fill its requisite numbers.
You are right. I meant they pulled out of combat and took off and left a residual presence, like they have in South Korea and Syria. The main point is that they did not win that war -- Iraq is now a satellite of Iran.
Very true. I withdraw the observation and amend my initial point: "The US has never won a war and in some instances, even continues to fight them to this day, in some instances, decades on (e.g., Korea and Iraq)."
Yep- military industrial complex at work. Iran enabled too by Biden admin. They are getting lots of money, overlooking nuclear capability. This is how they will reset economy- a war in middle east, nukes start flying, Russia comes in, China, US takes several hits and surrenders. US strategy now is take a first strike, since the 90s but now with Russia nukes, a first strike will take out several major cities. Not pretty. And the elite all have a path to underground facilities.
I don't think so. The socialist Globalists want to reset the US and get rid of the guns and constitution. The elites will hide underground while we get nuked, then surrender, and submit to a global gov't. The US is too powerful, the people too free and dangerous.
What bovine excrement Robert?
Who are the "socialist Globalists"? LMFAO
Getting rid of guns in America - yeah right!
Being delusional is a bitch eh!
Wow .. Just Wow.
Jesus - I sure hope you're wrong djean. At least for our children's sake. :(
Yes but prob not Iran, I think, and maybe not til after the election.
Given the state of the US military - not ready for p2p conflict, and their goal of rearming for a final attempt to intimidate China late in the decade... US likely to pick on someone with higher chance of success - and ofc on Israel's target list. Pretty much Syria or Lebanon. Outside chance of Yemen, but I doubt it - they shook off the equally genocidal US-Saudi starvation and bombing campaign of the past decade, and still taking potshots at US navy ... a little too much like Vietnam there.
Guessing that war it will be the next Israeli PM's price to Trump for their support in '24.
Iran has been on the list for years. Will bb get his santa wish for us to send our kids?
Your continues to be an indispensable voice, Catelin!
Thank you Caitlin. The US is a failed state as far as I'm concerned. Biden's only doing what the US has done for decades. He's just a more disgusting iteration of the same ole same ole.
Sorry to hear of the gas lighting and abuse you must experience for defending the plight of the Palestinians and atrocities that are continually committed against them. I think a lot of people must find strength in your lucid and engaging commentary. I’m sure those poor souls in Palestine will be eternally grateful for anyone advocating on their behalf. Good luck.
Lucid and engaging is a great description - completely agree.
“Hamas can end this any time by surrendering” really just means “Israel gets to keep murdering Gaza’s children until Gaza’s government gives it what it wants.” Gaza's government could not give Israel what it wants. it wants Palestinians to disappear.
I think Biden’s deep Christian roots programmed him like a robot to support and defend Israel no matter what Israel does. I think the Bible is why many American Christians on the right and on the left still support Israel. I think it doesn’t matter who is president next, they will support Israel. I think they all have their heads up where the sun never shines, and I wonder if that will ever change? I also wonder if the people running Hamas now wish they had nor ordered the October 7 attack, and I wonder why they have not offered to return all the hostages that were taken,, if Israel will stop attacking Gaza and will pull its troops out of Gaza?
Have to disagree. ByeDone’s Catholic. I was raised Catholic, and we were NOT Zionazis; in fact, the nuns at my school expressed no love lost between Catholics and Jews.
ByeDone’s a Ziobitch because it benefits him monetarily. It’s all about the Benjamin’s, ya know.
You’re to smart to be wasting your time and energy on this bullshitsky stuff.
Only knows one song.
Hamas Hamas Hamas.
Actually, it’s Hamas, Israel, Israel Hamas, Hamas, Israel, Israel Hamas. It takes two to fight, tango, rumba, etc. :-)
Hamas founded - 1987.
Israel founded - 1948.
The tangle/tango has some features that don’t sound like a mutual waltz.
More like a death march.
Hamas was founded to destroy Israel. They’ve been waltzing ever since.
Founded by whom, and to destroy why. Just a couple questions for the forum's enlightener based on his own statement.
Well, something has programmed Biden like a robot to back Israel to the hilt, so far. I know. t, by living among them, that a lot of Christians on the left and on the right are fully being Israel, and that is rooted in their religious beliefs - the Bible. I recall Donald Trump telling America and Israel that he was Israels best friend. So, if Trump gets elected in 2024, I expect him to live up to that. The irony is, Biden is losing votes by continuing to send Israel money, weapons and munitions, which increases the odds of Trump being elected in 2024. My hope is something will happen, perhaps in the courts, to take Trump out of that race, but even if that happens, most Republicans and I suppose all MAGAs are fully behind Israel, and the Republican candidate, if it not Trump, will be fully behind Israel. Where I live, Alabama, Israel supporters could care less what the UN, the rest of the world, or Americans against Israel, think.
Meanwhile, I still wonder if the people leading Hamas wish they had not ordered the October 7 attack, and why they have not offered to release all their hostages in exchange for Israel stopping its devastation of Gaza? I am left thinking Hamas wanted Israel to do what it is doing in Gaza, as part of some draconian scheme to turn the entire world against Israel. But I don’t think it will ever turn the Bible thumpers in America against Israel. They will never side with Islam against Israel.
As I said, it’s ALL ABOUT donations from the likes of AIPAC , etc.
And I assure you, that growing up Catholic, we barely cracked open the Bible 😉
As far as I know, very few Catholics crack open the Bible, which I think dates back to when the Catholic mass was in Latin and only Catholic priests, bishops, cardinals and the pope read the Bible :-). I think there is more than AIPAC driving Biden, but that probably doesn’t matter. Clearly, he is talking out of both sides of his mouth, and clearly he does not want to cut off money, weapons and munitions to Israel, and he’s losing votes over that, and maybe he won’t be the Democratic candidate for president in 2024, and maybe he will. I can’t imagine any Democratic candidate campaigning on stopping aid to Israel, as long as the Republicans and the MAGAS exist :-). I hope something happens that gets Israel’s attention and it stands down. because I see no way it can defeat Hamas in Gaza, and I think IDF has already figured that out, but it is dealing with religious fanatics running Israel, and both IDF and those fanatics are looking really bad for ignoring lots of warnings that Hamas was about to attack Israel, and male egos are involved big time, and religious beliefs are involved big time, and it's a perfect mix that only someone like Steven King might dream up in a sequel to The Stand?
Big King fan here, and I agree!
Hey gypsy, check out your idol here, as pranked by famous Russian duo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DmhpKerVq0
TL;DR - he's as dumb as they come.
Sloan Bashinsky, What do you think will happen if " Hamas offers to release all their hostages in exchange for Israel stopping its devastation of Gaza"? Will the Israeli's take their war toys and go home? Are they going to re-build Gaza and let the Palestinians resume what's left of their lives? What will the US/West do as Israel's partners in crime?
A war crime and a genocide like no other is happening - the genocide cannot be undone, but the countries who voted for the carnage to stop should demand reparations and justice for the Palestinians.
Both parties 100% on board with permanent blank check to Israel. In that respect, it makes no difference who is elected. Don't think Catholic it has anything to do with it. (few in Congress give a rat's ass about religious doctrine. Biden flipped on abortion, for instance, to get the votes)
Really, few in Congress give a rat’s ass about religious doctrine. I bet just about every Republican in Congress would beg to disagree, and quite a few Democrats in Congress, too :-)
Oh I don't doubt they'd disagree. Nice and loud so all their voters can hear
I am a Christian, but for over 50 years I have been a supporter of Palestinian rights who has been boycotting Israeli products.
Yes, I think the Bible probably does make a lot of Christians instinctively feel that the Israelis are the good guys. But in the past few weeks, a surprising number of people at church have said things to me that indicate that they don't think that is the case this time.
I’m seeing that, too, with some Christians where I live and on social media. Yet, I live in a very red state, and I have conversations with enough people to think any US president, or candidate for president, who sides with Hamas against Israel, or is perceived do that, willl lose to a candidate who to stands firm behind Israel.
Well, I live in rural Scotland, and political views over here are probably somewhat different from those where you are! An opinion poll a month ago showed that people in Scotland were more likely to be more sympathetic to the Palestinian side than the Israeli side, whereas in England and Wales, sympathies were pretty evenly split.
America is very different from where you live, which I visited a long time ago and loved it. Starting at Glasgow, I rented a car and drove up past Loch Ness to Inverness and over to Aberdeen (spelling?), and to St. Andrews and then to Edinburg, as I recall the itinerary. Beautiful countryside. A very different world back then, than now, which America’s made up war in Vietnam helped birth. Now we have judges and prosecutors and their families receiving death threats over abortion rulings and anything having to do with Donald Trump, who plainly told Israel he was their best friend, so imagine where the MAGAs and Republicans stand on Israel. And many Democrats stand the same on Israel.
Hope you rented a manual, "Sloan".
Did you do the magic roundabout?
"It’s not okay for grown adults to believe this." - but the thing is they aren't grown adults. They look like adults, but their brains never progressed past juvenile stage.
They are grown adults. That's the thing with all these episodes of massive sadistic cruelty. It wasn't done by animals, it wasn't done by developmentally disabled people, was done by regular humans. Sure the particularly crazy leaders may be nuts, but they would be nothing without their followers. The bulk of the deeds being done by the followers.... the responsibility thus lies with very ordinary humans. That's the problematic issue to confront.....
"They are grown adults" - in the physical sense, yes. Their brains haven't grown past video game stage, that's the problem. Age came alone, wisdom decided to take a pass.
Who is "they" my friend?
Are you including yourself in that group?
Yup, here he is. NZ troll loving to drink from the septic tank. At 75 - a perfect example.
Yeah I have a feeling - jackass Daddy Dennis and some new posters here have an agenda. Will hit back when appropriate with this asshole. Loves to dish at out, and sure can't take it. Typical narcissistic behavior.
Used to be I picked up quite a few good ideas, links, etc. here. But many people left and the new crop leaves much to be desired.
Just an old custom to stop by, but looking to head elsewhere soon.
Hope not. I've enjoyed your posts even though we had a few (in retrospect, entertaining) skirmishes ourselves. I think part of what is going on is the new election cycle is heating up - and Caitlin will inevitably be targeted by unscrupulous dickwads with an agenda. But these guys can't shut out numerous other commentators, they have no power to censor here - so their voices will not become dominate. Caitlin's comments section has grown, and is fairly unique among the substacks. I think its worth sticking around.
It's just a matter of costs vs benefits. Do I enjoy engaging with those characters? Absolutely not. But they need to be pushed back against, as the bullies don't understand any other behavior. Also to present them in a light that other commenters might appreciate.
But it gets tiring. Caitlin's posts will continue to be read, for sure.
“Hamas can end this any time by surrendering” really just means “Israel gets to keep murdering Gaza’s children until Gaza’s government gives it what it wants.” Which is about as evil a position as you can possibly imagine. This is not an acceptable position for any person to have."
Yeah, but try to convince someone that their "evil position" isn't acceptable when you have Genocide Joe and his gang setting a precedence that murdering children/civilians is just something the US does to stay good friends with its "aircraft carrier in the Middle East" a.k.a. Israel. The sociopaths just keep insisting that the murdering isn't happening. The latest is "those weren't babies--they were plastic dolls in incubators." It's unnerving. We need to invent a rubber room the size of a city to lock these evil-positioned/unacceptable persons up for good. #FreePalestine
State of the Union: A crazy president, a destitute empire suffering imponderable moral depravity, bombing itself into eternal damnation.
This is a psychotic breakdown the world will not forget for a very long time. Gaza is a historic pivot point sealing the empire's fate.
Self-immolation is never a pretty sight.
Americans still have their bases in Germany and try to control our media and politics. Our politicians and media march in lockstep with the US and Israel even more than in Canada or elsewhere. My hope is the younger generation who have been taught to despise racism and understand the message of the Holocaust as resistance to government indoctrination. The public yelling and condemnation of pro-Palestinian activists is Fox on steroids.
What a son-of-a bitch'n asshole.
I thought current US law prohibit US weapons sales and military aid to be used for offensive purposes or to kill civilians or violate international law or conduct ethnic cleansing and genocide.
Congress is letting Biden get away with bypassing Congressional approvals and vioalting US and international law.
Question for the Legal Eagles out there: Can some peace group or citizen sue to enforce the law? Do such groups have legal standing to sue? If so, why isn't homelike like Code Pink suing Biden? Biden is already being sued for complicity in genocide. A lawsuit to block US funding would be far more effective than the international criminal court enforcement of relying on a novel genocide prosecution in US federal court.
tells you what you need to know about "rule of law". massive fraud.
not a new phenomenon, either
Are you willing to be the plaintiff? I’m a retired lawyer, who clerked for a U.S. District judge before practicing law, and there might be legal redress theoretically, but imagine the legal quagmire a federal judge would face, and imagine the appeals, and reflect on how it’s going in the federal and state court cases involving Donald Trump, and imagine lots of death threats the plaintiff and his/her lawyers and their families would receive, and would there be a favorable ruling against President Biden, and who would enforce it? Could anyone enforce it? I can imagine if President Biden cut off money, weapons and munitions Israel, he and his family would receive death threats. They might be killed. I think Biden knows that. I also think he should rise above it, because when he became president, his first duty was to that office, and that duty superseded all that came before.
You write: “Is there anything else I can do to end this sooner?” Yes, you can write about those who want the same things you want with concrete actions, such as freeing Marwan Barghouti.