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In my somewhat long-ish life on this planet, now having spanned the past nearly 70 years, it surprises even my own well patinated self how such a perennial mediocrity as the long-time empty suit known in DC as Joe “lunchbox” Biden has made as much progress as he and his administration minions have in the past few short years toward the goal of bringing about the end of civilization as we know it in such a short time in office.

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Biden is just the show clown - the dummy puppet we all get to blame. He hasn't been doing this all on his own, he has a lot of other clowns backing him up - while the mass murder of children continues unabated. Fuck these people. Seriously, fuck every one of them.

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Nov 11, 2023·edited Nov 11, 2023

Biden is so obviously dealing with some degree, or maybe a whole lot of senility and I doubt he's running anything, yet people still expect him to stop the carnage, while he can't even stop his dog from biting people.

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Nov 11, 2023·edited Nov 11, 2023

Biden so well embodies the rot of the US. He symbolizes the deep decay of US leadership devolving on lies and deception, possessing no diplomatic nuance or moral legitimacy. Instead of a brain trust residing in the White House, there is only brain rot - literally. Human life has become so devalued- to the point where genocide is now acceptable to these empty, morally bankrupt, mass murderers of children.

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There was a certain Brezhnev in the USSR and he was made fun of constantly because of his age. The number of jokes was ridiculous.

But he's got absolutely nothing on Biden. Not even close! The only thing he suffered from was speech. He didn't pretend he was vigorous and energetic. He was absolutely aware of his status. He wanted out for a long time but they kept him there for whatever reason, perceived stability or some such.

This current guy in the WH? Forget about it.

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Nov 11, 2023·edited Nov 11, 2023

Biden reminds me of a classic Star Trek episode - I must have watched a number of times as a 10 year old Trekkie (in black and white) called "Patterns of Force" - looking up IMDb, the blurb description for the episode is:

"Looking for a missing Federation cultural observer, Kirk and Spock find themselves on a planet whose culture has been completely patterned after Nazi Germany."

It turns out the leader of the Nazi organization, who in an episode twist was the cultural observer sent down to the planet - was a drugged talking head, no longer in control of the beast he had created on the planet. One of the better episodes.

Just a bit eerie how dystopic reality now has become. Sad - meaningless. Genocidal, Ecocidal human race - which is about to destroy itself most likely. If not now - soon.

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“Dealing with this number of torn and burned bodies, most of them children, requires a high level of psychological toughness that not every human being possesses,” he said. “I face a real test every day. There is no time to cry or break down at the same time, but we are only human.”

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Hi RB

Here’s my retake on that old country chestnut “Prop Me Up Beside the Jukebox if I Die”…

Genocide Joe’s version.

Prop me up inside the White House when I die

Lord, I know I’m goin’ to hell

But I don’t wanna go tonight

Fill my shoes up with sand

Put an Israeli flag in my hand!

Prop me up inside the White House when I die!

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Wow Jamenta…perfectly said!

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That made me laugh even though it's the truth.

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Metaphorical Biden. Someone does ensure weapons flow, all the military support and some operations, right now. And that someone is not Biden, either.

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Agree! I think the neocons have a lot of clout in this administration, and the neocons moved over to the democratic side of isle during the Trump years. I have absolutely no doubt about that within his administration Blinken and Nuland, Sullivan, all neocons, have a whole lot of clout when it comes to foreign affair.

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They dont have clout - they ARE the administration. Biden is merely a frontman. Just like Obama and Clinton the wife were. Trump annoyed them by actually having his own (just as bad, but different) ideas, and was promptly removed.

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Why would I be blocked for liking this comment?

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Right, Biden is obviously not the front man considering when he moves he doesn't seem to know where he's going, and sometimes trips on his way, and often looses his thoughts in mid-sentence? However when they are in charge like he was in the Senate he pushed the Iraq war down his fellow democrats throats so they couldn't say no to a lie of a war. He may have his hand in the till of the military industrial complex, but this man loves war. They have input, so don't turn them into empty shells, absent of responsibility. However I do agree there are a lot of people who determine policy inside and outside of government, The corporate world the military industrial complex and people like Soros have a lot to say and those we vote into office listen.

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I don’t think Clinton was a front man—he was so incredibly charismatic when he spoke that he had enough power to avoid doing the bidding of others. No, all the damnable destruction Little Billy did to the country and the FDR coalition was all his own choice. He cornholed Arkansas and he cornholed US. Only Epstein brought him to heal after he was out of office. And he was best friends with T-rump.

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The dog was biting security personnel.

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Well, I think most of the people he bit were secret service, and some of their injuries required medical care. Maybe the dog picks up on his owner's vulnerable issues and is more protective, or maybe he wants them out of the way and provide Joe no protection. We'll never know.

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Journalists sign letter alleging pro-Israeli reporting and dehumanisation of Palestinians.

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Israeli forces target another health facility with 14,000 displaced people sheltering from strikes.

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Nov 11, 2023·edited Nov 11, 2023

The Arab world had another Summit meeting today. This is not going to last much longer without some kind of response from them. I think the first will be non-military - a massive economic cut off likely. And if that doesn't stop the US & Israel - and Netanyahu continues with the obvious mass murder of innocents - then it's going to get much, much worse - for us all.

There is no moral or political legitimacy for any government or country 1) committing genocide and 2) a country or state that sits by and does nothing while genocide is being committed. The Arab world is going to be forced to act.

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Those things that eventually were to be called humans; almost went extinct 800,000 years ago, well now, thank the cosmos, they most certainly will very soon. I think that I was two-years-old the first time I realized that humans weren't worth the time of day, and here it is 70 years later and these damn things are still running around as though somehow, race actually matters about any damn thing at all. I could tell you where these latest damn things came from, and that they're the same damn things that almost caused this particular primate to go extinct the first time; but , you know there's another damn primate species waiting in the wings to replace you all when you're no longer here; worse yet, their behaviors are just like yours; so, not to be disrespectful, I really do love you all the best that I can; but, you're all really just dead ass meat, and all your thousands of unborn generations are much better off if they'd were never to be born. I even try to love cockroaches, but humans? Obviously, no capacity of self- introspection? And, that's the very quality that you humans claim sets you apart from other species; which is really remarkable, because now we know that the other animals are quite capable of that trait; so, what the hell happened to the humans?

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lab-grown synthetic meat promoted by billionaire eugenicist Bill Gates is triggering the formation of turbo cancers in humans

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He's been there a long time obviously not as President. IF you look up his record you will see that he's a truly disagreeable man.

As for Anita Hill!

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Exactly—and she is the least of his many victims.

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Yes.

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I was so furious watching that, but so proud of her—she was like a queen, maintaining her dignity in the face of that insufferable wanker’s (my new epithet) attacks on her.

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In my 69 years, I have recognized that there is no shortage of people like Joe Biden, but the number of people having the critical thinking skills to see what is wrong with most politicians is getting more rare.

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Comfort blinds you. And boy are the Yuppies comfortable.

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Ignorance breeds comfort. Awareness is seldom comforting.

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“What saddens me most is shrouding children,” al-Maghari said. “My heart breaks as I collect the children’s torn limbs and put them in one shroud. What have they done?”

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AIPAC Gordo, AIPAC

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Thank you for quoting this.

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It's been said long ago: "Ye shall know them by their fruits."

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We, six Palestinian physicians working within the Israeli healthcare system, are sickened to our core by the statements made by some of our colleagues, Israeli doctors we work with, calling on the Israeli army to bomb hospitals in the Gaza Strip.

Regrettably, we cannot say we were surprised. As doctors trained and practising in this system, we are all too aware of its embedded racism, militarism and hypocrisy covered up by a false image of a medical sector where Arabs and Jews work together in harmony and respect.

They use their position and profession, not to save lives, not to preach about the devastating effects of war on civilians on both sides and the necessity of finding a peaceful political solution, but actually to validate attacks on medical facilities, knowing full well that this means the killing of fellow doctors and patients.

At the same time, this health system has adopted a distinctly McCarthyist witch hunt approach towards us, Palestinian physicians. As a result, we cannot engage in any intellectual or moral conversation about the war. We are expected to condemn Hamas and join the patriotic Israeli military frenzy, while watching silently our Jewish colleagues cheering for the killing of innocent Palestinian civilians and endorsing the tightening of the blockade.

We drive to work every day, listening to the devastating news about the death toll and destruction in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. When we arrive, we put on that mask of “everything is fine” and endure the daily loyalty test and scrutinising eyes of our colleagues. During coffee breaks, we are forced to listen with a straight face to our Israeli colleagues casually dropping phrases like “flattening Gaza” and discussing the merits of displacing its people.

We are also seeing our Palestinian colleagues being interrogated, fired and shamed without a valid reason. We are very aware of how the hospitals and clinics we work in have become disciplining arenas. In a “normal” place, we would be in the streets, demanding an end to the war and massacres and advocating for a peaceful solution. We would use our profession and position to denounce the inhumane attacks on healthcare workers, facilities and civilian infrastructure.

We are deeply aware that the situation is much more complex than choosing sides and we know that every life lost is a tragedy, whether it is Israeli or Palestinian. But precisely because of this, we also know that history did not begin on October 7 and that our people have been displaced, killed, injured and humiliated for decades, with the full endorsement and involvement of our fellow Israeli doctors.

We come to work every day, knowing that our people are killed, tortured and maimed by illegal Israeli settlers and the Israeli army in the occupied West Bank land. However, we also know that we cannot ask our fellow Israeli doctors “Do you condemn?”

We have been forced to live in a coercive environment where Palestinian death is normalised and often celebrated, but Israeli Jewish death is seen as a tragedy that cannot be accepted and necessitates revenge.

This is the reality, where Israeli national security is of high value but Palestinian national security is a dark joke. It is Jewish supremacy in life and death that is so normalised, particularly at such tragic times when it explodes to uncover the true face of our Israeli colleagues and sadly also of the Western world and its medical institutions.

The normalisation of Palestinian dehumanisation reflects the complicity of the entire world in the massacres which are taking place in the Gaza Strip.

The medical profession has a long and rich history of opposing war and its devastating effects on health. It has stood up against racism, colonialism and imperial expansion, which have driven deadly wars.

We can vividly remember the massive organising of doctors against the US wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. We saw how doctors in the US, in the aftermath of 9/11, organised to oppose and lobby against the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, knowing it would lead to more deaths and not security.

But we are also aware that the majority of our fellow Israeli Jewish colleagues are on the opposite side of this urge to protect civilians, as the entire Israeli health system has been mobilised to join the war effort and support it.

The Israeli health system not only does not oppose Israel’s war, occupation and apartheid but also prevents Palestinian doctors living in Israel from speaking up and organising against them.

In this tragic and regrettable environment that we work in, we need to hide our names and write anonymously to state the obvious, following our professional duty and oath. We have reached such a level of demoralisation and dehumanisation that we are forced to watch massacres, with Palestinian children burned by Israeli phosphorus bombs and entire populations starved of food and water, without batting an eye, as if everything is just “normal”.

Not only are we barred from volunteering to provide medical aid to the innocent Palestinian civilians, but we are also not allowed to speak up against those state crimes without risking our jobs and safety.

We want this letter to serve as an apology to our Palestinian people and colleagues in the Gaza Strip, exposing our profound powerlessness and complete impotence.

We and the world have failed you.

We can only hope that in future calmer days, we can bear witness and speak and write about the conditions that have allowed for massacres to unfold and to take part in healing those who survived.

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I did read about these Israeli Doctors today.

I am so grateful that you have the courage to speak out and I understand completely that you cannot use your names.

My love and best wishes to you all.

Be safe.

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To: too much work - Thank you for writing this. One can only imagine the anguish and trauma you and your colleagues are going through. How helpless you must be feeling, watching and waiting, working in such an environment. Nothing we can say will be of any comfort, but we are with you.

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Nov 13, 2023·edited Nov 13, 2023

"We are deeply aware that the situation is much more complex than choosing sides and we know that every life lost is a tragedy, whether it is Israeli or Palestinian." Tell that to caitlin, she doesn't seem to understand this.

"The normalisation of Palestinian dehumanisation reflects the complicity of the entire world in the massacres which are taking place in the Gaza Strip." Bullshit. Hamas has dehimanized Palestinians and is using them as props in an attempted PR war against the west, obviously.

"we are also aware that the majority of our fellow Israeli Jewish colleagues are on the opposite side of this urge to protect civilians". Bullshit.

"we are forced to watch massacres". Bullshit

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Are you one of the six doctors?

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Said about those who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.

Which, it seems to me, could be said to describe a lot of politicians.

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environment that we work in, we need to hide our names and write anonymously to state the obvious, following our professional duty and oath. We have reached such a level of demoralisation and dehumanisation that we are forced to watch massacres, with Palestinian children burned by Israeli phosphorus bombs and entire populations starved of food and water, without batting an eye, as if everything is just “normal”.

Not only are we barred from volunteering to provide medical aid to the innocent Palestinian civilians, but we are also not allowed to speak up against those state crimes without risking our jobs and safety.

We want this letter to serve as an apology to our Palestinian people and colleagues in the Gaza Strip, exposing our profound powerlessness and complete impotence.

We and the world have failed you.

We can only hope that in future calmer days, we can bear witness and speak and write about the conditions that have allowed for massacres to unfold and to take part in healing those who survived.

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So you think it applies to a lot of physicians too?

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It's universal, applicable not just to politicians or those who come to you. Anyone walking on the street should get a similar treatment.

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Starting with Biden and every other Western politician they are desperately fighting to save the western capitalist system from taking a very big financial haircut. In other words this is war over who controls the world economy with the immediate battle over the Middle East to control key oil resources and transportation routes. The US never wanted a cease fire the Gaza genocide is the opening round of a bigger regional war. There are reports the US is delivering munitions as quickly as it can. Zelensky is history and this is a big escalation aimed at Iran, Syria , Lebanon and others . Biden certainly does not control the agenda.

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The Chinese belt and Road initiative really did scare them!

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And if they had a half a brain they would would be doing the same instead bombing the shit out of everybody. Just imagine if the belt and road ran right through Alaska and down to the USA. It creates jobs where ever it goes and everybody benefits. Trillions of dollars have been pissed away on wars that should have been spent on jobs and infrastructure.

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While I agree that this would have been better—anything would be better—it’s still a capitalist, unsustainable expansion of consumerist policy. We’re coming to the end of that idea. And while China is the current favorite because it is helping the under developed peoples that we have shot to pieces, it is still a dead end philosophy of extraction and massive commerce that cannot be sustained.

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Completely correct from what I can glean from non-American news sources. The rapprochement between Iran and Saudi Arabia really freaked D.C. out.

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I a not sure I agree

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Good comment, who do you ''suspect'' does control the agenda?

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Nov 11, 2023·edited Nov 11, 2023

The neocon ideologists from Langley, including Blinken and Nuland, and the tiny handful of oligarchs who control Blackrock, State Street and Fidelity, which in turn has financial control of the media and all the war profiteering industries.

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Moneyed Orthodox Jews.

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Yes Jenny, they of the “blood diamonds”.

I’m the only woman I know who owns not a single diamond.

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Now you know two—😄😁🤓

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"Ignore their words and watch their actions is sound advice for any time you feel like someone’s manipulating you, by the way. It applies as much to interpersonal relationships as it does to empires."

Yes, exactly! Excellent advice.

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Biden Could End All This With One Phone Call

That will never happen so I strongly doubt it - Biden is a puppet one that has proven to be corrupt just like Netanyahu who should be in jail already.

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Netanyahu should be taken to the Criminal Court in the Hague...........it won't happen!

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It won't happen.

The ICC is a toothless tiger at best which has to make legal scholars wonder why they spend so many years studying laws when there's nothing to enforce these laws.

The ICC could only ever be effective when there's a one world government to enforce these laws - The way that governments around the world all responded in identical manner to the Pandemic suggested that we already have a one world government [I'm not in favor of a one world government]

The Palestinian authority have signed the Rome Statute and therefor the ICC does have jurisdiction - Even though the Palestinian territories are being occupied and colonized by the Zionist.

Israel hasn't signed the Rome statute and has a reputation for not co-operating' with ICC war crimes investigations.

The Israeli's Hypocritically investigate themselves unsurprisingly they find nothing wrong.

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"Biden could end it all with a phone call."

"Could, should and would" all are very good, but the world will place its bid by another word called "did."

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Like the neocons that run his show would let him end it with a phone call.

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Nov 11, 2023·edited Nov 11, 2023

As many (notably Chomsky) have always pointed out, Israel is an extension of the Pentagon system, an outpost for US to maintain its hegemony and control of the Middle East and the surrounding region. Washington’s genocidal policies of supporting and arming the current and previous Judio-Fascist regimes of Israel is consistent with the US’s geopolitical goals — it has always been so since the 60s culminating in the 70s into what it is now. Washington always preferred to work with the Israeli “dove” governments (they’re smoother in whitewashing their agenda). But the “doves” don’t exist anymore or are brushed aside, leaving these monsters in charge. Washington doesn’t like that and is going along, revealing what this is all about. So long as US supports this Nazi-like regime with money and weapons, I cannot see how things will significantly change — sorry to say

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Recently RFK Jr confirmed what Israel has been for the US: https://rumble.com/v3umobw-rfk-jr.-pushes-world-war-iii-over-oil.html

"It's our bulwark in the Middle East. It's almost like an aircraft carrier in the Mideast."

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Chomsky is a Zionist fraud? C’mon, man. If the actual left, as opposed to the imaginary one that exists in the mindless recesses of the PMC and MICIMATT cannot have respectful and reasoned discourse with and about FUCKING NOAM CHOMSKY who has been carrying the water for the real left for almost 60 years, then we are not only doomed, we deserve to be. Ditto the abuse of Caitlin.

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"You want to know how morally bankrupt Democrats are? Democrats are so morally bankrupt that right now they are angrier at people who say they refuse to vote for Biden because of his support for the Gaza massacre than they are at Biden for supporting the Gaza massacre."

This sums up the madness of the US uniparty/duopoly in a nutshell. Perhaps the Dems should come up with some catchy slogans to promote their chosen one? "A Vote for Genocide Joe is a Vote for Endless Profits from Global Conflicts!" "What's a massacre of natives among friendly empires? Vote Genocide Joe Biden!" Yeah, those will make him sound much more attractive...

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Am the most disappointed in Secretary Austin for supporting the Zionist racist ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. He should know better. Shame!

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How would he know better? His track record is that he a fully indoctrinated US Army general who has for decades planned the global brutality and killing machine of the US - and then he has been a military industry lobbyist. Clearly he is a war hawk, financially invested in the war machine for generating his personal wealth and he has no shame.

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Absolutely he should know better, for what better perspective that from the board of Raytheon?

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Nov 11, 2023·edited Nov 11, 2023

Biden could end it with a phone call….if he weren’t a corrupt, soulless and indoctrinated tool, rather than a thinking human being.

It’s important to understand that the US military which includes three letter agencies) and political leadership are ALL indoctrinated. The military it is baked into their training. For the politicians it is baked into their security clearances. So if you want to be President or head of a senate committee, you must have security clearance to access certain documents. And that requires “indoc”: indoctrination training…by the US military.

This so called training is basically a brainwashing. They are taught that the US is an exceptional country, born to “lead” aka own the world. and that most outside are savages (“adversaries”) or compliant sheep (“allies”). They are taught that (crony) capitalism is a holy ideal and that accumulating wealth for its own sake is a virtue. They are taught that all foreign (aka the other 90% of the world) cultures and religions and value systems are not just suspect but evil and a “threat” (for example Chinese values and development ideology). Even for a foreign country to be wealthy, strong and not a vassal, makes them an “adversary” (escaped slave).

In short it’s a modern plantation ideology. The US owns the plantation aka the world, The slaves are supposed to know their place, and the US is supposed to keep them there, using its weapons and its vassals.

The colonial overlord views the palestinians as rebel slaves that must be put down. Thus no phone call except to the Pentagon telling them to send the the nuclear carries and submarines.

This is what indoctrinated rulers of the global plantation do.

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Interesting how many of these warrior-wannabees in congress weaseled their way out of the Vietnam-era draft. Genocide Joe received several deferments; I believe he had a hangnail.

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But glad to remote bomb defenceless civilians…

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Yes, Caitlin.

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Oglala Sioux Chief Red Cloud to the United States government:

“You made us many promises and you kept only one of them. You promised to take all of our land, and you took it.”

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If Biden picked up the phone to call Netanyahu someone would have to dial his number first, then tell him what to say, since he's definitely not with it, and if he were, he's nothing but a war monger, and he's been that during all our Middle Eastern wars, and before as well. America in perpetrating those Middle Eastern wars made it easier to carry out this genocide in Gaza. So who was, and is running this show? Not Biden, definitely not Kamala,  maybe Blinken, or Nuland, and the neocons who slipped over to the democrats during the Trump years. Yes, Netanyahu does have those genocidal bastards on his side. I'm sure the Net has his own irrational motives in feeling justified in his murderous campaign, but he knows he's got US backing because we have been and still are a country where we have adopted an agenda that puts us on a constant war footing. The attack by Hamas was their New Pearl Harbor.

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Yes, Fran. Biden "... is nothing but a warmonger". So were all the US presidents before him. Noam Chomsky who wears the badge of honour as a " a self-hating Jew " has said so with plenty of evidence.

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For those who can’t tell the difference between religion and politics: The Israel/Palestine conflict is a political struggle. Those who splash religious rot on this simple perspective must also accept that Christians killed 3 million Vietnamese; Christians invaded and killed millions in Iraq and Afghanistan; Christians dropped two A-bombs on Japan; Christians are major players in trafficking; Christian authorities practice child abuse and pedophilia; …. Oxycodone, anyone?

From Ph. Devils

https://joelbentarz.substack.com/publish?utm_source=substack&utm_context=dashboard_pub_switcher

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You are confusing Christian with Christendom. There is a vast gulf between the two. The simple faith of the early Christians was abandoned in the second and third centuries in favor of political power and wealth. Only persecuted minorities struggled to stay pure. Many of these paid with their lives.

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Nov 11, 2023·edited Nov 11, 2023

I don't remember any comment that anyone posted that failed to show they didn't know the difference between religion and politics, or were looking at the genocide Israel is implementing as religiously motivated. However your post does attack Christians repeatedly in your supposed effort to show the carnage Israel has wrought upon the Palestinians has nothing to do with religion.

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Fran, my comment was an attempt to support Caitlin’s post by adding another perspective to her statement, ”Both Zionists and far-right Jew haters want you to believe all this killing is about Jews and Judaism when it’s really about land.”

The religious aspect is strongly integrated into the entire Israel enterprise, and has been since its conception.

”Zionists and far-right Jew haters” are not the only people exploiting Jews/religion to deny the vicious steel fist of Israeli aggression.

I did not attack Christians. On the contrary, I tried to show how ridiculous it would be to claim that Christians or Christianity were responsible for the events I described. Tried! I must admit that my writing was a bit sloppy. Instead of ”Those who splash religious rot on this simple perspective must also accept that Christians…”

I could have said, ”Claiming that Jews/religion can justify the aggression and genocide of the Israeli state is as preposterous as claiming that Christians…”

Sorry for the confusion.

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Well, Joel one would think from your posts none of the wars you reference inducted Jews into the military to serve, or were not part of a government that pushed these wars, and by the way the countries the US destroyed in the 21st century killed primarily Muslims. At this point in time we're not talking about the Christian crusades. I do believe that the many Muslim countries the US attacked in the 21st century would not have happened if the majority that resided there were Christian or Jewish, even if their political agenda wasn't in alignment with ours. In terms of what is going on in Israel, some on the comments made by Gallant didn't help when he stated to the world he saw them as inferior beings, animals he called them. The constant footage is also extremely disturbing. At one time Israel wanted a two state solution and then you have people like Netanyahu who never wanted to give it a chance and even cultivated Hamas. If you want to remind people this is not just a Jewish thing bring up our wars, and how many million we displaced and killed all based on lies.

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Yowsa! Hard truths

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I hope people are not just reading, writing blog posts, and demonstrating, etc., but also, and crucially, calling their congressmen daily and telling them that they cannot support them unless they call for a cease fire.

If you are not in the mood to look up who your representative is or how to contact them (but in the mood to watch another video of kids being slaughtered and getting enraged), here's a link: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

And it's working -- read this: https://tinyurl.com/48vxnakx

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I do one better.

I tell my congressman and senators, none of who have signed into Cori’s ceasefire proposal, that I’ll actually be supporting their opponents come election time.

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Yup. That will freak them out, since that would be the equivalent of losing two votes, not just one.

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Snark? And yet if each snarky fart did the same, they’d lose many more votes. But enjoy your pointless nihilism

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How is my response snark?

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You should have applied order of magnitude to Jeano's vote. She's that sensitive. And you just did an addition - that's snarky and offensive to her.

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I don't know what "order of magnitude" means.

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It seems like we can lay many, if not most, of the world's ills at the feet of the Brits. They never really abandoned their quest for Empire; they're simply using other countries, particularly the U.S., to do their dirty work. They've been doing that for centuries

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