And, in fact, 14 children froze to death in Gaza the same day this mass shooting took place in Australia. That's just children and just one form of death.
I hope you wont mind me just asking what is the way to respond to those filled with hate? I am challenged by this question and think we must not hate as Zionists do. Maybe we need the language to express that total rejection of those who are filled with hate without possessing a mind of hatred. Ahmed did so by deed in removing the gun from one of the shooters.
It's not actual hate, it's disgust at the enjoyment they get from torture and killing unarmed people who cannot fight back on equal terms, even starving them to weaken them, and dropping phospherous bombs onto tents that burn men, women and children to death in, what be the utmost agony, and find that amusing.
You certainly cannot have any respect for such subhumans who are beneath contempt, so most people opt for saying they hate them, myself included because why should I have to explain all the things I feel when I see and hear what they are doing?
Hatred begets hatred, and the atrocities never end. Only by breaking the cycle of hatred with love and empathy can healing begin.
“You certainly cannot have any respect for such subhumans who are beneath contempt…”
As long as you view people this way, the violence and hatred continues. This is the viewpoint which justifies atrocities. They are not subhuman. They are broken brainwashed humans, and had you or I been in their shoes, we’d likely be also.
They must be stopped. But the violence will never end as long as we see them as other, as subhuman, as inferior to ourselves.
You go give them as much love as you can give. Me, I'll continue hating what they have and are still doing to an unarmed people simply because they want their land.
If you want everyone to be so forgiving, considering the heinous acts committed by israel, you go ahead but don't you dare ask me to forgive the unforgivable sin of killing children and newborns by phosphorous bombs dropped on tents in the night just because they could. Which is a speeding up of 80+ plus years of slow genocide now that people are aware of what reprehensible types have invaded Palestine.
If you have seen and/or read about the atrocities visited on Palestinians by israelis and truly believe your loving them will fix it, you go ahead and travel to israel. Then in a few months you can send pictures if yourself toting a rifle alongside these loveable murdering IOF.
“don't you dare ask me to forgive the unforgivable sin of killing children and newborns…”
I ask nothing of you. I shed tears daily for the victims of these atrocities. I shed tears for a world which allows these atrocities to occur when they could so easily be stopped. But mostly I shed tears knowing that the hatred being sown finds fertile ground to grow in the hearts of the victims and witnesses to these atrocities. These seeds grow strong and the righteous condemnation of the perpetrators will grow into further violence and atrocity. Forgiveness frees the forgiver from this chain of violence.
Victims want to answer pain with pain, death with death. But vengeance will not heal the pain, nor bring back the dead.
Most of us feel impotent in the face of these atrocities, so we let our anger and hatred seethe to salve our guilty consciences. The more we hold onto that hatred the more we can pretend that we are the righteous ones, that we are different, that we would never do or allow such things, that it’s not our fault and we are willing to do anything to destroy the subhuman perpetrators. And that righteous hatred destroys us, as surely as it has destroyed both the perpetrators and the victims of the horrors to which we are witness.
Forgiveness is not for the forgiven. Forgiveness frees the forgiver from the shackles put on our souls by the evils of the world. Your righteous hatred is your right to hold onto. But it helps no one, least of all yourself.
I’m not saying that the perpetrators of these horrors deserve forgiveness. I’m saying that the victims deserve freedom from these shackles, and that the world desperately needs the cycle of hatred to end.
"Indeed, the worst people on earth are using the Bondi Beach shooting to argue for crackdowns on free speech and freedom of assembly to silence Israel’s critics..."
I disagree with Caitlin's characterization here, these are not "people," they are "existents" who happen to have some of the same biological features of human beings - ingesting, defecating, fornicating, reproducing (unfortunately) - but otherwise possessive of no quality that could remotely be called human. We have seen a reassertion of that line attributed to Stalin, "A single death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic." Change the wording slightly and add in the Israeli manipulation of the media and you have fifteen Jewish murders getting more play than, where are we now, 100,000 Palestinians, half that number being children?
I believe I recall reading that Yawah Sinwar launched Oct. 7th to show the world the real Israel, and also to show the world to itself, before the experience of the Palestinians since the early 20th century at the hands of the Ashkenazi Jews, later joined by others, was to be erased from the human record by the actions of the Israelis and its allies and apologists. I would say that in this he succeeded, at a staggering cost. There was perhaps, naively, the belief that the world would come to its senses and rebuke and renounce Israel, but the world powers were instead revealed to have been complicit in Palestine's fate. Thus the horrible nature of the situation dictated Sinwar's pulling back the curtain would only unleash a genocide.
And all this is the legacy of Zionism. Abandon all pretext of humanity being the implicit, guiding force in human affairs. The inexorable reality is that of cynicism, vileness, venality, depravity, not just epitomized by and taken to new heights, or depths depending upon one's viewpoints, but that the rest of the world doesn't care, save tiny, impoverished Yemen, cared.
We've seen something like this before. We are approaching the 111th anniversary of the Christmas Truce on the Western Front in WWI, when British and German troops spontaneously ceased firing at one another, and gathered in No Man's land to sing carols, play soccer, exchange small gifts. When their officers found out, they were horrified, and swiftly put an end to further fraternization. That peace lasted forty-eight hours in a four-year war that killed millions. Has much changed since then?
One can't love a poisonous snake to the point it will not strike out and bite them or, for that matter, try and lovingly stop a charging momma bear protecting her cubs, therefore one certainly can't show love to a murderous psychopath, in hopes of changing them, since they were born that way, according to Dr. Ramani. The big difference is that the snake or bear does so as an instinctual self-defense or to protect their young, whereas the psychopath views his kills as a game or sport, so I'm on the same page as you!
Correction: 14 people died that day in Gaza City due to facing a storm under conditions of Israeli destruction. 2 were children who froze to death; others were adults who were crushed under roofs that fell. https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/165220
Yes. Also, Haaretz just showed before and after shots of a new tent city in a "Hamas-controlled" area of Gaza with all the tents gone and giant craters in the ground. Which makes me think they're vaporizing people again, which I can't even get my head around.
Hi, where does this stat come from please? I wanted to refer to it on FB but I can't find it. I found '14 Palestinians including two children' died as a result of the flooding etc from Storm Byron. Thanks
And it may be that he got it wrong. It might be the article you found. Still, the same number of murders on the same day, assuming there were no shootings or bombings.
I got it in an email from Mazin Qumsiyeh. He usually offers sources but didn't this time. I asked him for one and will get it to you when he gets back to me.
You are right ,it is getting harder and harder to post any Truth or facts about Israel if you are not praising them and telling how Great JEWS are ,the Censorship of information about the Zionist is getting very difficult to get out on any of the Platforms now that they start to delete any info about Israeli non stop Genocide of the Palestinians even with their so called Ceasefire, if you say 'Why is Israel allowed to keep killing Palestinians even with a ceasefire in effect? on some platforms it gets deleted and called a Violation ,Hatred and SPAM.
(Business & Human Rights Resource Centre:
AMAZON GOOGLE MICROSOFT FUELS ISRAELI MILITARY AGGRESSION
The Israeli army is using cloud storage and artificial intelligence services provided by civilian tech giants in its ongoing onslaught on the Gaza Strip.
We are conditioned to care in concentric circles - our family, our community, our nation and only reluctantly beyond that. When 15 deaths happen on our own streets, it hits our hearts like a thunderbolt. But when 15 deaths happen halfway across the world every day, it becomes background noise in the scrolling feed, a distant statistic we never truly see. That doesn’t mean those deaths matter less it means our empathy has been narrowed, trained to recognise suffering only when it looks and feels like “us.” Real truth doesn’t ask us to care instead of it asks us to care equally for all human life, even when our media, politics and instincts tell us not to. What feels true is that love and compassion aren’t finite resources; they just need practice starting by seeing every life as equally sacred, regardless of where it happens
You’re not alone. A lot of people feel this but sense there’s no safe space to say it. Naming the inconsistency isn’t radical it’s just refusing to let empathy be rationed by geography or narrative.
Israeli PM Ariel Sharon, 1928-2014, in a Hebrew language interview with Israeli writer Amos Oz, stated: “Even today I volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug out from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up a few synagogues, I don’t care. And I don’t mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal… What your kind doesn’t understand is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from it.” (published in Hebrew in the Israeli newspaper Davar, 17 December 1982)
Israeli media, citing sources in the intelligence services, are actively spreading the version that Iran is behind the terrorist attack in Sydney. The U.S. has already responded to this. “If the attack in Australia was carried out on Iran’s orders, Israel has full legitimacy from the U.S. to strike Iran,” a senior American source told Fox News. As I understand it, the Jews could have orchestrated this themselves.
In other news, the claimed shooter’s name, Naveed Akram, was searched 100 times in Israel the previous day, according to Google trends. This makes the argument for false flag attack stronger. You can verify it yourself in Google trends.
I don’t see any limitations imposed on the freedom of speech of those who support Israeli/Zionist settler-colonialism/genocide/mass murder/ethnic cleansing in Gaza and all over historic Palestine. Those genocide apologists are allowed to cheer for and support crimes against humanity openly, not to mention violations of more conventions and UN resolutions than you can shake a stick at. Someone can surely make a huge court case out of that if the Australian government begins to place limits on Palestine advocacy. It beggars belief that our own governments are prepared to limit our democratic civil rights just to support Israel and collude with a colossal crime against humanity.
I came to live in Australia in 1991 and lived there for 18 years. All the governments I lived under were pro-Israel. Australia had better get their act together. The double standard of successive Australian governments (and UK where I now live) is eye-watering and disgusting.
Not just to support isrehell This is all leading to the WEF 2030 agenda where we will all be imprisoned it the digitised world of control .Starting with digitalised ID that will eventually link to digitalised credit scoring .to you can't do anything go to doctors .shops hospitals ect ect with out a ID and you will be under isrehrlli technology surveillance facial recognition bio metrics ect ect . Palestine was always the testing lab for control over people and many our countries have been already using their surveillance and software and buy their test weapons .drones as they battle tested in Palestine
Evelyn Craig, Everything is battle tested in Palestine. Not only the newest technology but, the latest settler colonial lesson in how to do a genocide and getaway with it and yet ride the moral high ground.
Davina and Feral, Would it be heartless and cynical on my part to say that the brave Aussie who tackled the gunman - thus saving more lives - robbed the Israeli regime of the propaganda value they would have otherwise had from the Bondi violence?
And irony of ironies the brave Aussie happened to be a Muslim.
We’ve come to expect the daily killings in Gaza. There are so many of them. We need to resist their being normalized, because we’re being conditioned to accept them by their sheer numbers. To a lesser extent, that’s what’s happening in the U.S. with respect to mass shootings. We go through the usual ritual of “hopes and prayers.” Again, it becomes normalized, we’re being conditioned, worn down. I think what we need to jolt us out of this is a reaction that is not normal, that is different because it’s unexpected. I’m not sure what form it would take — I’m thinking, for example, of a demonstration at the U.S. Capitol with actual photos of representatives who have consistently supported this with blood on their hands. Instead of naming the victims, name the perpetrators. Each demonstrator would carry a sign with the photograph of an individual member, saying her or (more likely) his name over and over.
Most people, including those here in the U.S., don’t realize that every single day since November 5, demonstrations have been occurring against the Trump Administration in Washington, D.C. The demonstrators have also targeted the Supreme Court, which for all intents and purposes is part of the Trump Administration. Thousands of people have traveled to the Capitol from all over the Country. Money has been raised and events carefully planned. It’s just not being covered by the media. Partly because, unlike the No Kings demonstrations, it hasn’t received the blessing of the Democratic Party. This lack of coverage is also being normalized. So, we also need to target the media with our demonstrations. And what else? I just don’t know. One thing, I think, being on our phones is no substitute for action.
Don't forget all those nameless victims being murdered in Sudan, the nameless Christians being murdered in Nigeria, and other atrocities in other places. The world is full of torture and violent death. Palestine and Australia are just the latest tip of the iceberg. Human nature is violent unless taught otherwise.
No elites .leaders . government and greedy bankers and cooperations and wall street that need taught as they ones that want forever wars resources To keep getting richer while you become poorer
CJ>>"Australians Being Massacred Shouldn't Bother Us More Than Palestinians Being Massacred"
Caitlin, it doesn't bother me one bit. Maybe that's cold of me to say that, but in comparison to the 500,000+ murders of people in the Middle East (Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Yemen, and more) by Israel, I could care less about '15 Westerners' (Jewish or otherwise) killed BECAUSE of Israel's Genocide and ethnic cleansing that has been going on for 75+ years now.
The unfortunate part is that 'this pattern' is going to CONTINUE (i.e. blowback) in many parts of the world. The violence of Israel is not necessarily going to stay in the MENA region - it is going to have global repercussions.
That slow ethnic cleansing and genocide .Has actually been going on 150 years it started by Zionist movement in late 1800s either 1887 or 1898 was Lways their plan to colonise Palestine minus the Palestine and Arabs
How I wish Israel were an optical delusion of consciousness. It never fazes Zionists that the brilliance of a Jew like Einstein perceived clearly that peace had primacy and Zionism was antithetical to peace.
If Israel is not somehow behind this, then they are certainly glad to have an opportunity fall into their laps to cry about made-up global antisemitism.
And, in fact, 14 children froze to death in Gaza the same day this mass shooting took place in Australia. That's just children and just one form of death.
And still they wonder why sane people hate them - Israelis that is.
I hope you wont mind me just asking what is the way to respond to those filled with hate? I am challenged by this question and think we must not hate as Zionists do. Maybe we need the language to express that total rejection of those who are filled with hate without possessing a mind of hatred. Ahmed did so by deed in removing the gun from one of the shooters.
It's not actual hate, it's disgust at the enjoyment they get from torture and killing unarmed people who cannot fight back on equal terms, even starving them to weaken them, and dropping phospherous bombs onto tents that burn men, women and children to death in, what be the utmost agony, and find that amusing.
You certainly cannot have any respect for such subhumans who are beneath contempt, so most people opt for saying they hate them, myself included because why should I have to explain all the things I feel when I see and hear what they are doing?
Hatred begets hatred, and the atrocities never end. Only by breaking the cycle of hatred with love and empathy can healing begin.
“You certainly cannot have any respect for such subhumans who are beneath contempt…”
As long as you view people this way, the violence and hatred continues. This is the viewpoint which justifies atrocities. They are not subhuman. They are broken brainwashed humans, and had you or I been in their shoes, we’d likely be also.
They must be stopped. But the violence will never end as long as we see them as other, as subhuman, as inferior to ourselves.
You go give them as much love as you can give. Me, I'll continue hating what they have and are still doing to an unarmed people simply because they want their land.
If you want everyone to be so forgiving, considering the heinous acts committed by israel, you go ahead but don't you dare ask me to forgive the unforgivable sin of killing children and newborns by phosphorous bombs dropped on tents in the night just because they could. Which is a speeding up of 80+ plus years of slow genocide now that people are aware of what reprehensible types have invaded Palestine.
If you have seen and/or read about the atrocities visited on Palestinians by israelis and truly believe your loving them will fix it, you go ahead and travel to israel. Then in a few months you can send pictures if yourself toting a rifle alongside these loveable murdering IOF.
“don't you dare ask me to forgive the unforgivable sin of killing children and newborns…”
I ask nothing of you. I shed tears daily for the victims of these atrocities. I shed tears for a world which allows these atrocities to occur when they could so easily be stopped. But mostly I shed tears knowing that the hatred being sown finds fertile ground to grow in the hearts of the victims and witnesses to these atrocities. These seeds grow strong and the righteous condemnation of the perpetrators will grow into further violence and atrocity. Forgiveness frees the forgiver from this chain of violence.
Victims want to answer pain with pain, death with death. But vengeance will not heal the pain, nor bring back the dead.
Most of us feel impotent in the face of these atrocities, so we let our anger and hatred seethe to salve our guilty consciences. The more we hold onto that hatred the more we can pretend that we are the righteous ones, that we are different, that we would never do or allow such things, that it’s not our fault and we are willing to do anything to destroy the subhuman perpetrators. And that righteous hatred destroys us, as surely as it has destroyed both the perpetrators and the victims of the horrors to which we are witness.
Forgiveness is not for the forgiven. Forgiveness frees the forgiver from the shackles put on our souls by the evils of the world. Your righteous hatred is your right to hold onto. But it helps no one, least of all yourself.
I’m not saying that the perpetrators of these horrors deserve forgiveness. I’m saying that the victims deserve freedom from these shackles, and that the world desperately needs the cycle of hatred to end.
"Indeed, the worst people on earth are using the Bondi Beach shooting to argue for crackdowns on free speech and freedom of assembly to silence Israel’s critics..."
I disagree with Caitlin's characterization here, these are not "people," they are "existents" who happen to have some of the same biological features of human beings - ingesting, defecating, fornicating, reproducing (unfortunately) - but otherwise possessive of no quality that could remotely be called human. We have seen a reassertion of that line attributed to Stalin, "A single death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic." Change the wording slightly and add in the Israeli manipulation of the media and you have fifteen Jewish murders getting more play than, where are we now, 100,000 Palestinians, half that number being children?
I believe I recall reading that Yawah Sinwar launched Oct. 7th to show the world the real Israel, and also to show the world to itself, before the experience of the Palestinians since the early 20th century at the hands of the Ashkenazi Jews, later joined by others, was to be erased from the human record by the actions of the Israelis and its allies and apologists. I would say that in this he succeeded, at a staggering cost. There was perhaps, naively, the belief that the world would come to its senses and rebuke and renounce Israel, but the world powers were instead revealed to have been complicit in Palestine's fate. Thus the horrible nature of the situation dictated Sinwar's pulling back the curtain would only unleash a genocide.
And all this is the legacy of Zionism. Abandon all pretext of humanity being the implicit, guiding force in human affairs. The inexorable reality is that of cynicism, vileness, venality, depravity, not just epitomized by and taken to new heights, or depths depending upon one's viewpoints, but that the rest of the world doesn't care, save tiny, impoverished Yemen, cared.
We've seen something like this before. We are approaching the 111th anniversary of the Christmas Truce on the Western Front in WWI, when British and German troops spontaneously ceased firing at one another, and gathered in No Man's land to sing carols, play soccer, exchange small gifts. When their officers found out, they were horrified, and swiftly put an end to further fraternization. That peace lasted forty-eight hours in a four-year war that killed millions. Has much changed since then?
One can't love a poisonous snake to the point it will not strike out and bite them or, for that matter, try and lovingly stop a charging momma bear protecting her cubs, therefore one certainly can't show love to a murderous psychopath, in hopes of changing them, since they were born that way, according to Dr. Ramani. The big difference is that the snake or bear does so as an instinctual self-defense or to protect their young, whereas the psychopath views his kills as a game or sport, so I'm on the same page as you!
It is noble and good to hate evil. Why does that word scare you so?
Common sense works without hate. At some point logic will show us that this cant continue.
See Paradox of Tolerance
Correction: 14 people died that day in Gaza City due to facing a storm under conditions of Israeli destruction. 2 were children who froze to death; others were adults who were crushed under roofs that fell. https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/165220
Thanks for setting that straight, its still bad enough to be just as angry about it.
Yes. Also, Haaretz just showed before and after shots of a new tent city in a "Hamas-controlled" area of Gaza with all the tents gone and giant craters in the ground. Which makes me think they're vaporizing people again, which I can't even get my head around.
I hate to say it, but IF Iran actually had nukes, and nuked TelAviv, then less people would have suffered.
I hope it never comes to that, but this is going on for WAY to long, and at some point someone will say enough is enough.
Hi, where does this stat come from please? I wanted to refer to it on FB but I can't find it. I found '14 Palestinians including two children' died as a result of the flooding etc from Storm Byron. Thanks
He sent me some sources, and they say what your source said. Here's one: https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/165220
And it may be that he got it wrong. It might be the article you found. Still, the same number of murders on the same day, assuming there were no shootings or bombings.
I got it in an email from Mazin Qumsiyeh. He usually offers sources but didn't this time. I asked him for one and will get it to you when he gets back to me.
Thank you. I thought I was the ONLY ONE ....thinking that. This is the only (very semi) safe place to express that.....FACT, LOGIC.
You are right ,it is getting harder and harder to post any Truth or facts about Israel if you are not praising them and telling how Great JEWS are ,the Censorship of information about the Zionist is getting very difficult to get out on any of the Platforms now that they start to delete any info about Israeli non stop Genocide of the Palestinians even with their so called Ceasefire, if you say 'Why is Israel allowed to keep killing Palestinians even with a ceasefire in effect? on some platforms it gets deleted and called a Violation ,Hatred and SPAM.
(Business & Human Rights Resource Centre:
AMAZON GOOGLE MICROSOFT FUELS ISRAELI MILITARY AGGRESSION
The Israeli army is using cloud storage and artificial intelligence services provided by civilian tech giants in its ongoing onslaught on the Gaza Strip.
We are conditioned to care in concentric circles - our family, our community, our nation and only reluctantly beyond that. When 15 deaths happen on our own streets, it hits our hearts like a thunderbolt. But when 15 deaths happen halfway across the world every day, it becomes background noise in the scrolling feed, a distant statistic we never truly see. That doesn’t mean those deaths matter less it means our empathy has been narrowed, trained to recognise suffering only when it looks and feels like “us.” Real truth doesn’t ask us to care instead of it asks us to care equally for all human life, even when our media, politics and instincts tell us not to. What feels true is that love and compassion aren’t finite resources; they just need practice starting by seeing every life as equally sacred, regardless of where it happens
For Whom the Bell Tolls
by
John Donne
No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
I was going to quote this as well.
Maybe I'll go with the one I posted in the NYT comment section today"
"Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace"
You beat me to punch. I right away thought of John Donne after this magnificent article by Caitlin.
Would we be even hearing about it, had it happened in either the Gaza Strip or the West Bank?!
You’re not alone. A lot of people feel this but sense there’s no safe space to say it. Naming the inconsistency isn’t radical it’s just refusing to let empathy be rationed by geography or narrative.
i've got a hunch the religion or ethnicity of the victims would make a difference.
Like Israel breaking the ceasefire over 700 times ?
No simple answer
? There certainly is an answer and yes it is simple. Start thinking it, start saying it, start believing it.
i'm guilty of the concentric circles too. gaza is closer to me than oz, i apologize.
Peter Singer, the philosopher, highlighted this phenomenon of human experience in his Pond Anology.
Australia is far from canada
It might not be distance but how we stratify human life dignity and rights across the world
Or our political media complex keep herding us to keep those cultural hierarchical or even supremacist de facto moral radar
Continuing 19th century worldviews to fit our merit of have been born richer and freer
Yes when we see entire groups in misery we might prefer assume it our relative merit instead of listening to something else inside us
I think of Rousseau right now
All massacre derive fro. the US, Europe, and Israel.
ISIS & Mossad - “Jews killed Jews”
"Even if it means blowing up a few synagogues, I don’t care."
https://griobhtha1.substack.com/p/dear-zionist
Israeli PM Ariel Sharon, 1928-2014, in a Hebrew language interview with Israeli writer Amos Oz, stated: “Even today I volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug out from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up a few synagogues, I don’t care. And I don’t mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal… What your kind doesn’t understand is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from it.” (published in Hebrew in the Israeli newspaper Davar, 17 December 1982)
https://griobhtha1.substack.com/p/president-and-propagandists
These ones don't care if they get the rest of us killed either, but when people wake up to this it may be what pulls the plug on them.
Israeli media, citing sources in the intelligence services, are actively spreading the version that Iran is behind the terrorist attack in Sydney. The U.S. has already responded to this. “If the attack in Australia was carried out on Iran’s orders, Israel has full legitimacy from the U.S. to strike Iran,” a senior American source told Fox News. As I understand it, the Jews could have orchestrated this themselves.
In other news, the claimed shooter’s name, Naveed Akram, was searched 100 times in Israel the previous day, according to Google trends. This makes the argument for false flag attack stronger. You can verify it yourself in Google trends.
https://x.com/akamecoin/status/2000159213021180102
Thanks for that info Tom 👍
I don’t see any limitations imposed on the freedom of speech of those who support Israeli/Zionist settler-colonialism/genocide/mass murder/ethnic cleansing in Gaza and all over historic Palestine. Those genocide apologists are allowed to cheer for and support crimes against humanity openly, not to mention violations of more conventions and UN resolutions than you can shake a stick at. Someone can surely make a huge court case out of that if the Australian government begins to place limits on Palestine advocacy. It beggars belief that our own governments are prepared to limit our democratic civil rights just to support Israel and collude with a colossal crime against humanity.
I came to live in Australia in 1991 and lived there for 18 years. All the governments I lived under were pro-Israel. Australia had better get their act together. The double standard of successive Australian governments (and UK where I now live) is eye-watering and disgusting.
Not just to support isrehell This is all leading to the WEF 2030 agenda where we will all be imprisoned it the digitised world of control .Starting with digitalised ID that will eventually link to digitalised credit scoring .to you can't do anything go to doctors .shops hospitals ect ect with out a ID and you will be under isrehrlli technology surveillance facial recognition bio metrics ect ect . Palestine was always the testing lab for control over people and many our countries have been already using their surveillance and software and buy their test weapons .drones as they battle tested in Palestine
Evelyn Craig, Everything is battle tested in Palestine. Not only the newest technology but, the latest settler colonial lesson in how to do a genocide and getaway with it and yet ride the moral high ground.
And we must resist this.
Some humans are of importance to the Empire.
Others are of no importance.
Right now Australians are important to the "Empire" because jews were killed and it gives satanyahu another chance to take pot shots at Oz.
It provides convenient pretexts to further crack down on freedom of speech and assembly and for an attack on Iran.
Exactly. Not that they ever need much of an excuse anyway.
Davina and Feral, Would it be heartless and cynical on my part to say that the brave Aussie who tackled the gunman - thus saving more lives - robbed the Israeli regime of the propaganda value they would have otherwise had from the Bondi violence?
And irony of ironies the brave Aussie happened to be a Muslim.
Nope. The empire did not so much as miss a beat.
Agreed, be as cynical as you wish they often are but don't realise it 😉
We’ve come to expect the daily killings in Gaza. There are so many of them. We need to resist their being normalized, because we’re being conditioned to accept them by their sheer numbers. To a lesser extent, that’s what’s happening in the U.S. with respect to mass shootings. We go through the usual ritual of “hopes and prayers.” Again, it becomes normalized, we’re being conditioned, worn down. I think what we need to jolt us out of this is a reaction that is not normal, that is different because it’s unexpected. I’m not sure what form it would take — I’m thinking, for example, of a demonstration at the U.S. Capitol with actual photos of representatives who have consistently supported this with blood on their hands. Instead of naming the victims, name the perpetrators. Each demonstrator would carry a sign with the photograph of an individual member, saying her or (more likely) his name over and over.
Most people, including those here in the U.S., don’t realize that every single day since November 5, demonstrations have been occurring against the Trump Administration in Washington, D.C. The demonstrators have also targeted the Supreme Court, which for all intents and purposes is part of the Trump Administration. Thousands of people have traveled to the Capitol from all over the Country. Money has been raised and events carefully planned. It’s just not being covered by the media. Partly because, unlike the No Kings demonstrations, it hasn’t received the blessing of the Democratic Party. This lack of coverage is also being normalized. So, we also need to target the media with our demonstrations. And what else? I just don’t know. One thing, I think, being on our phones is no substitute for action.
We don't like to see violence "here". We are pretty indifferent to seeing it "there".
Don't forget all those nameless victims being murdered in Sudan, the nameless Christians being murdered in Nigeria, and other atrocities in other places. The world is full of torture and violent death. Palestine and Australia are just the latest tip of the iceberg. Human nature is violent unless taught otherwise.
No elites .leaders . government and greedy bankers and cooperations and wall street that need taught as they ones that want forever wars resources To keep getting richer while you become poorer
False flag.
Nope, not even remotely. Think BLOWBACK.
Your response on EVERY post that mentions a false flag is weird. What exactly are you up to Chang?
Read the material and think for yourself. Too many conspiracy theorists on Substack (including Caitlin's).
see https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/here-is-everything-the-media-is-not
Debunked by multiple sources ->
(1) Bondi Beach Tragedy: Unpacking Baseless Claims of Shooter Naveed Akram’s IDF Links (https://celebsindepth.com/naveed-akram-served-in-idf/)
(2) Misinformation exploits confusion, grief after Bondi attack (https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/misinformation-exploits-confusion-grief-after-bondi-attack/)
As for Council Estate Media, I have a low opinion of their 'quality of critical thinking in analysis', as they seem to stride on the edge of 'skepticism' and 'conspiratorial thinking'. (My response to another commentator on this here -> https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/israel-apologists-hasten-to-use-bondi/comment/188184137)
We need to grow our compassion, and stop favouring one race over another. And we need to see ourselves as parts of one big human and non-human family.
So true. I'm tired of them playing us against each other.
I ain’t gettin “played”.
Me too.
I also suspect a false flag attack. It's hard to say that when so many people have died. I don't just mean in Australia.
Not a False flag. See here (https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/australians-being-massacred-shouldnt/comment/188238977) and here (https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/australians-being-massacred-shouldnt/comment/188236797).
When i learned about it within the few hours i tweet this;
https://x.com/IesousDisciple/status/2000257709216509976?s=20
https://x.com/IesousDisciple/status/2000582215491518668?s=20
CJ>>"Australians Being Massacred Shouldn't Bother Us More Than Palestinians Being Massacred"
Caitlin, it doesn't bother me one bit. Maybe that's cold of me to say that, but in comparison to the 500,000+ murders of people in the Middle East (Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Yemen, and more) by Israel, I could care less about '15 Westerners' (Jewish or otherwise) killed BECAUSE of Israel's Genocide and ethnic cleansing that has been going on for 75+ years now.
The unfortunate part is that 'this pattern' is going to CONTINUE (i.e. blowback) in many parts of the world. The violence of Israel is not necessarily going to stay in the MENA region - it is going to have global repercussions.
That slow ethnic cleansing and genocide .Has actually been going on 150 years it started by Zionist movement in late 1800s either 1887 or 1898 was Lways their plan to colonise Palestine minus the Palestine and Arabs
Yes, though it ramped up significantly after WW2.
Typo meant 1889
How I wish Israel were an optical delusion of consciousness. It never fazes Zionists that the brilliance of a Jew like Einstein perceived clearly that peace had primacy and Zionism was antithetical to peace.
A jew’s opinion doesn’t matter more than anyone else’s.
Our “owners” choose our official opinions. And they are rarely Americans.
And to boot, Einstein was a socialist and against Capitalism.
Would we be even hearing about it, had it happened in either the Gaza Strip or the West Bank?!
If Israel is not somehow behind this, then they are certainly glad to have an opportunity fall into their laps to cry about made-up global antisemitism.