The balance of power will always be a reliable guide as to whom to believe and whom to ignore. The weak have only the truth to cling to. The powerful have force.
Well I am outside the USA but lived there for 23yrs and it was NOT like this then. We left when GWB came in and I did not want to be called a 'pinko' or 'communist' again because I believed in Free education and healthcare. I know Reagan started this.
It’s called the Creeping Corporate Coup and nobody has paid the slightest bit of attention to it except maybe Ralph Nader who was laughed at by the Yuppies for a decade. Die Yuppie scum.
We were outside of usa for twenty plus years as expats. It was not like this when we left. Corrupt policies a bit more hidden. Now blatant unapologetic corruption. So we lied about iraq,whatever. And we keep repeating the same mistakes and same outcome.
Matt Taibbi pinned the tail on the donkey over a decade ago, when he said that the country America most resembled was post-Soviet Russia, with an all powerful oligarchy, a sham democracy, and a rampant corrupt enabled by a compliant bureaucracy and laws that amounted to an in-justice system.
bill wolfe: Climate change is happening, but their so called "solutions" or attempts to slow it down are bullshit. For example the electric car "solution".
But how do we know? Any kind of institution or bureaucracy has protecting itself as its first task. If that takes lying, so be it. For the embattled -- and by definition the state is always at least potentially embattled -- truth is a luxury to be enjoyed by the elite at leisure. And often in distant retrospect.
The US government knows that radiation causes cancer and death and nuclear bombs, but they continue to mine uranium, allow nuke power plants, and build A-bombs and H-bombs.
The US government knows that smoking causes cancer and kills millions of people, yet they allow tobacco companies to sell cigarettes.
The US government knows that toxic chemicals cause cancer, yet they still allow corporate polluters to dump millions of pounds of these chemicals in the air are breath and water were drinking and food we eat.
Why do you think the government would't be producing greenhouses gases when they know they cause climate change? I hear the same ignorant and absurd claim made about elites flying in private jets: if climate change were real, the government wouldn't allow them to fly!
Your logic is more flawed than your climate denial. This is what happens to an under-educated brain marinated in conspiracy theories and assuming everything the government says is a lie.
Jon Carver: Of course they know that. They don't really care or they think god will step in and save them or something. Or maybe they have built underground bunkers for the elite and they think that will save them.
Without government - no one would be able to pursue their self interest. The lie is that we'll all be better off allowing the rich to run our lives with their corporations and privatized ownership. Corporations are far worse than any representative government .
It should also be pointed out here that the US no longer possesses a Representative government, it is now controlled and dictated by Monied interests - the very people Libertarians would foolishly give more power to - given the Libertarian Peter Pan psychology that government is always evil and extreme Individualism is always good - which plays right into the hands of the already obscenely rich.
Are you sure? It'd be a bit comforting to believe the MAGAts that the Empire was being run by lizards. Knowing that humans are doing all this and condoning this after putting on rose tinted glasses is...too real.
Lest anyone claim it’s pure talent, note the gross failure of the policies overseen by these people, domestically and internationally. And not just now but over the course of long careers.
Apparently the road to success is not to know more or do better. It’s to be of the right origin and to subscribe to the right cult views.
GFW Hegel (The Philosophy of History): “What experience and history teaches us is that people and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it.”
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson: “We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world — bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are whores for power and oil with hate and fear in our hearts.”
John Kenneth Galbraith: “The modern Conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
There is no such thing as Yankee left-wingers or liberals.
Yankees are just white lynch mob buttheads looking for a tree.
I.F. Stone (In a Time of Torment, 1961-1967): “All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out.”
Disaster waits for fools who vote for liars, frauds, rapists, dripping sacks of excremental lies, and, corrupt traitors.
Biden and Trump, Racist Nixon, Senile Ronny Raygun, and all the rest, aren’t the problem.
American monkeys are the problem, stretching back to Washington, who would rather sell his slaves than free them to volunteer for his army.
Robert Mitchum was making a movie in Trinidad with John Huston. Mitchum walked around a lobby corner and found Huston masturbating the hotel's pet monkey. Mitchum asked, 'Why? Why do you do this, John?' 'The monkey likes it', said Huston, 'He really likes it!’
George Orwell: “A people that elects corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors aren’t victims…but accomplices.”
Was I an "anti-Semite, my every word.dripping with Jew-hate" when I was in Ukraine and confronting actual confessed Nazis putting up antisemitic posters?
Sadly, he’s a bully. I think he’s had a few good insights but he ALWAYS gratuitously attacks others with a different point of view and when he has the dummest thing to say, he says the dummest things to promote it. Still, I’m rebel enough to “defend to the death his right to say it.”
Hitler-lover is out to spread lies - Israel style. Now, you and your tiny Waffen SS unit here in this forum won't be getting away with this. Sieg Heil!
I don't know if you're actually Russian. But you do the bot thing really well.
Something I've realized for quite a while: while it's quite difficult for a bot to convincingly simulate human self-aware consciousness, it's a simple matter for humans to simulate bots, by spouting robotic boilerplate and trigger phrases. The conditioned zombie sleepwalk affect is the same.
Now let's see if you're human. You might be if you don't care about context. For bots it's easier to just retrieve what happened before to establish it. Humans tend to just say "fuck it" and start considering things from the third act of the play. Like as if the current story started on Oct 7, 2023.
So if you care a bit about what's going on here you might want to go to the previous Caitlin's post and see where the Obersharführer Che came out of the closet. And why from now on he's going to be treated as having a Hitler altar that he kneels daily at.
I agree with you about the Abrahamic religions— worse than the others. But the Palestinians are Moslem and I’m Pro-Palestian. Jewish Voice for Peace are my hero’s. The christians I can hardly tolerate but I think the Pope is helping change world opinion for the better. It depends on what you do with your faith, not what faith you are. And, frankly, hating is destructive no matter who does it to whom.
funny thing is that often journalists and academics that are really somewhat succeeding in criticising israel have jewish roots. it's harder to call them anti-semetic, yet they're not spared.
I’d go a sttt er p back and say that in the U.S. succeeding in academia dnd in journalism is an ethnically handicapped race - no pun incensed - in the first place.
For whatever reason, a disproportionate majority of the top level people in these fields in that country are of Jewish ethnicity in the first place.
And God help you if you are Latino or Asian or African American in the U.S. coming up the ranks in those fields and you hold such views critical of Israel. Your career is mostly dead on the back of that - if it wasn’t already stillborn due to lack of insider connections.
That's such nonsensical horseshit. Contemporary Judaism is as multifarious as most other religions nowadays. It's at least as sectarian as Islam or Christianity. None of the "Abrahamic religions" resemble the monolithic caricature of Pop Atheist fantasies.
There are so many posters in Substack comments who are out of their depth with their sweeping oversimplifications about religion and theism that it's a waste of time to engage any of you on the subject. I don't have time to do the teach-in, especially to people who are completely out of their depth on those subjects, and either don't realize it or are thoroughly content with it.
Instead, I confine my commentary here to directly cogent political points and factual observations. As a rule.
Consider this post an exception. I just need to get it on the record that not everyone posting in Caitlin's story comments thrives on recurrently diverting the discussion into an atheist group hug. You all can deceive yourselves that all reasonable people share your callow middle-school takes on philosophy and history, but don't flatter yourselves that the lack of protracted disagreement with your shallow takes constitutes evidence of consensus. Some of us just prefer to keep our statements on-topic and well out of the realm of fiat conclusions delivered in regard to topics of universal scope, which are typically scantily informed by subjective personal perspectives that masquerade as Final Wisdom, leavened only by the usual predictable select handful of cliche examples and historical factoids.
Those of us who haven't checked out of CJ discussions entirely, that is, recognizing that unlike some Substack pages where the comment discussion is at least as worthwhile than the articles, the information value to be found on Caitlin's page is almost entirely found in her own posts.
Granted, Feral Finster posts here, and that makes for reliably entertaining reading. Worth noting that whatever FF's theological orientation or lack of one, Finster knows better than to derail conversations into the pompous anti-religion diatribes and associated pile-on subthreads that so often crop up in the comments of Substacks for writers like Caitlin Johnstone, Chris Hedges, and Bill Astore. Even if the preening antitheist activists here could manage to strip their pamphleteering of its sneering hostility, it would still be off-topic.
It would've been great if you stepped in when that bellicose type had their batteries near full charge. This comment would cause a short and leave the comment section a lot cleaner as a result.
Not just "at this point," but for decades and decades.
My own heuristics, which has never failed me: The balance of power will always be a reliable guide as to whom to believe and whom to not believe. For the weak have only the truth to cling to. The powerful have force and other means.
I'm not sure I've ever believed the Israeli government (or the US government), especially since 911. Even before, when I discovered what the Israeli government did to the sailors on the USS Liberty in 1967. What they did to Rachel Corrie showed their true character, savages.
911 was the tipping point for me too, opening my eyes to the evil of man and the USA. I knew it was pre-planned and 100% certain it was a controlled demolition of all 3 buildings.... But, I loved math and physics at High School, plus had a stopwatch and scientific calculator handy.
Sickening. Not sure what can be done to stop this. UN seems completely dysfunctional and the USA vetoes everything. Other than the Houthis, nobody has the backbone to actually stand up to this.
This is what experts say is going to happen. I believe that the Zionists and Empire want this to happen. I think that the Empire is infiltrated with the Evangelicals that want Armageddon.
As you know the Zionists are their prophetic axis of the ascension and they intend to unleash it.
I'm not convinced it is all pre-planned. I think the owners/bankers just love endless chaos and destruction, and then work out how to make money out of it.
Yes, isn't that called Disaster Capitalism and there is another term along those lines. The first was might have been coined by an excellent economist; After a crisis, private contractors move in and suck up funding for work done badly, if at all – then those billions get cut from government budgets. Like Grenfell Tower, Hurricane Katrina revealed a disdain for the poor. By Naomi Klein
by Naomi Klein.
Actually her book is named The Shock Doctrine. I don't know if it was her that wrote of the Capitalists that profit off wars, I'm sure that it is in there, but I believe that there are other books out now that are covering that same tactic.
Thank you. I am aware of him and read much on his disgust in the U.S. and it's lending of U.S. troops to Big Business out just about anyone that profits someone other than U.S. citizens.
I appreciate the link. I have been intending to read this for a very long time.
He definitely wasn't rewarded for blowing the whistle on the Wallstreet Gang that hired him to overthrow FDR in favor of their investments type of government in 1939.
Oh yes. I read about his book and what it said and I may have seen this. Excellent. I think he is a contributor to Tom Engleharts's website, tomdispatch.com.
It may have been Perkins that exposed the fact that when the Columbian government extended an offer to give Snowden political asylum, our government sent down a 'messenger' or just called. They informed them that since they are the #1 supplier of this country's imported flowers they had better rescind that offer. They did.
I read that there are some that advise against what the top Cabinet members in his coalition are advocating, but not very many care to speak up. There are some very senior retired ZDF speaking out against this government's plan and they admit it's all according to plan, the genocide that is. If they're anything like the so-called "adults in the room" like trumpy had, they'll speak up after they can't be punished by the Netanyahu group.
I don't know, but I doubt that a senior coalition member would go against the top members that are and have been proven to be Zionists and followers of hardcore Zionists. As to proof of my assertion, I can't to dig up the reference material at the moment and I'm not sure that I bookmarked it. I've been trying to be more conscientious about doing that and sometimes I've assumed I haven't when in fact I did surprising myself.
I have hundreds of non Jewish friends too and some are sad about this, others pay as little attention as possible and probably some support Israel, Jewish or not.
I'm of the opinion that 'real' Jews would not approve of any of what the Zionists have been doing for the last nearly 80 years. I'm believing that the people who claim to be Jews and are participating and cheering this on are really Zionists.
I'm of the mind that they have an infestation like us, people like the MAGAts claiming to be Christians, but after many years of nastiness and falsehoods those claiming to be Jews aren't really. Of course they would be shocked if you pointed out that they aren't really.
In the West or here in the U.S. we all know that these 'Christians' are really White Supremacist Fascists wanting this country for themselves, a Christian Nation Only and any non-MAGA or 'different' religion/color/atheist would be STAMPED out.
Ono. Ellen, This wasn’t meant for you. I’m so sorry. The way substack does comments, I have to remember to name the person I’m replying to. I completely agree with what you said. In fact I’ve heard there is a sect of Judaism that believes Israhell is the exact opposite of what their sacred books teach.
Look at Hindustan Times for info on how the allies are stepping up! Australia is sending 11 whole soldiers. Some other dopey country is sending 1! One soldier! It’s hy-larious! And if the Gazans weren’t suffering so massively I’d laugh. Thank you Houthi’s for bringing world trade to an almost standstill. .
Here’s hopin’. But I don’t know what’s happening in the Seychelles? Can you tell me? Any and all small rebel groups will do most of the good work now, with all these alliances and international “considerations” keeping strong nations from actually HELPING the Gazans.
O. Got it. No, I think it was Norway or some such. These idiot NATO nations who want to comply so they don’t get in trouble but don’t really want to do it. If everybody’d just stand up to us, it would be some much better in the world. A bully is a bully is a bully!
Lies like Palestine was a country "without a people for a people without a country"; Palestine was "undeveloped"; Palestine was empty, then "settled" by Arab Muslim hordes who emerged from Arabia (vs conversion to Islam after the region was conquered by Arab Muslims in the 8th Century); the Zionists repeatedly offered peace plans in 1947/48, 1967, etc., mostly outright fabrications in that others put forth plans which invariably short-changed the indigenous Palestinians by blocking true national sovereignty AND leaving Jewish settlers in place and constantly expanding. Think the "settling of the West" in US history.
The one silver lining in the current bloody tragedy is that the true face of Colonizer Israel is on display in its manifold raw public declarations and deliberate military actions to exterminate Gaza as a viable society and ultimately ethnicly-cleanse the West Bank of its indigenous population which it has repressed for over 50 years.
The truth is finally emerging to the world in the ashes, in the rubble, and on the bodies of 20,000 Palestinians and counting. The truth is written in the blood of 10,000 Gazan children.
israel, proof that monsters exist. We need no further proof. My heroes are the Palestinian people and the people of Ansar Allah. Every day I wake thinking how can I go on supporting this genocide of Joe Biden and yet I get up work on an experiment I love and my life's work and continue feeding the monster. Question, outside our building a row of flags. The flag of israel punches me in the face every time I walk into the building, walk into the hall, get a cup of coffee. Should my letter be, raise a Palestinian flag or take down the flag of genocide? Every building should be given notice remove the flag of genocide. A pirate flag would be far more honest. I read Caitlin's brilliant words not expecting to write any of this not wanting to distract others. If only I could reach into the hell of Gaza.
The past 2 years have seen the most momentous change in the power structure of the world. Accelerated by the proxy war and the world's abhorrence at the treatment of Gaza; China and Russia are now at the top of a growing BRICS alliance increasing in purpose, integrity and economic might as the US and UK (the EU has already been shafted by the US) behave like unhinged lunatics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkuKnYdtW9w
g&d—- this is what people are saying is the end of empire. A snake bitting itself in the throes of death. Can’t happen fast enough but a whole lot of people are going to suffer as we go down.
Yes, millions in Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Palestine and Yemen have already suffered the death throes of domination by the Empire. There is still time for an uprising of sense in the people of the West i think though probably it's looking pretty bleak in the short term.
It's going to be interesting to see how BRICS+ diplomacy evolves. I would predict that the UN will eventually be abandoned if it is not reformed to prevent monopolization by the permanent UNSC members. We will probably see the beginning of the BRICS+ alternative diplomatic track in 2024.
I am wishing everyone a calm Xmas. We have decided to treat it as just another day because I simply cannot think of stuffing myself while people are dying. Just a nice walk along the beach with our dog.
Caitlin have a holiday if you can and thank you for being brave.
Thank you Jenny - if this had been 9-11 but on 12/20 or something closer to 12/25, Christmas would've been cancelled. I too am so consumed with sorrow and cannot imagine celebrating anything! Once again the Brits are always so far above us intellectually - the BDS Movement is huge - whereas on this side of the Pond they undoubtedly think it's another medical aliment!
Merry Christmas from my dog Vincent to you and yours!
🤠 WOW! EIGHT cats!!! With all those purry friends, I can see why you can consistently be upbeat despite all the woes in this world. My beloved kitty died in 2014, so I have not had the privilege of kitty company for nearly a decade now.
Howevah, I have a collection of kitty graphics that I use for emphasis now and then in posts in my forum. Here's are several that you and other cat lovers here will enjoy:
I join you in sharing your sorrow and wishing a 🕯️ Merry ✨ Christmas to all here.
These lines from "A Christmas Carol" are quite applicable to the Murderous Israeli Zionists AND Genocide Joe Biden:
Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir." ... ... and many would rather die."
"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population." ... ...
"Man," said the Ghost 🕊️, "if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man's child.
Oh God! to hear the Insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust."
I now have an Irish passport but have lived in France for the last 25yrs. Never liked the Brits. Any country you can think of at the moment is in a mess. France is driving me mad but at least we do not have this religious shit. Separation of Church and State actually works MOSTLY.
We have another bona fide card carrying SS-Einsatzgruppe member here. Report to Oberscharführer Che. He keeps records. For further scientific analysis.
Nothing Christ supposedly said indicated he was a hatemonger. The mangling of his words and deeds by his supposed followers is on them. And this is from a strong atheist who has absolutely no religious or supernatural belief whatsoever.
too true. I read about some astrologers who proved that the star the wise guys followed was a conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn and it occurred on April 4th not Dec 25th.
Yes, the default is that all members of the Blob GAE are lying all the time...Israel is a special case, since it has been an outlaw that only exists because of Blob military support, yet it can't go for even one year without committing war crimes that would get another country shunned and ultimately destroyed...
Egypt is in serious debt. There is a proposal being talked about that Egypt will allow the Palestinians home in the Sinai and the IMF will cancel their debt!
NO NO NO.
I am not a person who believes in fake anything but I AM beginning to wonder if this was the idea in the first place. Israel get more land.
“No true progressive would be a WILLING member of the corporate owned, corrupt, primary rigging, wall street butt licking, warmongering, genocidal Dem Party!” - Thor Swayze
Well, "progressive" is a weasel word until you know which sort of "progress' is being referred to. For the Nazis of the 1930s and 1940s, Naziism was progressive.
The problems in the world today are the Direct Result of US Empire building. So many Americans income is derived at the tax trough. Robbing Peter to pay Paul, you can count on Paul's support. This link is to an International law that both the US and Israel Ratified, it should be enforced with a vengeance; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Prevention_and_Punishment_of_the_Crime_of_Genocide
Enforced by whom? The governments of Russia and China are biding their time on the theory that you should never interfere with you enemy when he is making a mistake.
The creator Yawea, struck them down, put a plague on them, then cast them out to be without a land of their own and chased by the sword for a reason. Those reasons have multiplied. They have not been GODS chosen people for 2023 years since they killed their Messiah. Despite all their lies, propaganda they are murderers throughout their hidden,censored history. Ask? Who you can not question! They are the usurpers and enemy of freedom.
As military service is essentially mandatory, IMO most Are indoctrinated Zionists that view others like this quote ; "Our race is the master race! We are divine God's on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. Other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Our Destiny is to Rule over the inferior races, the masses will lick our feet and serve as Our Slaves!" - Menachem Begin, founder of the Likud
What I want to do is to encourage more of us to think about new ways to think and act on this issue.
here must be a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, not with Palestinians suffering under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
A friendly note about your headline: While at war, all nation states (of whatever political leaning) routinely lie about that war. Official statements and associated partisan media should never be read w/o intense skepticism.
Most of mainstream media in the US relies heavily on official and quasi-official Israeli sources for their reporting on the Gaza campaign. This is irresponsible journalism ... except in the sense of the editors being responsible to the State Department’s preferred take.
Charles, I read this Substack and all the included links and it left my head spinning - I am curious to hear your thoughts on this since you mention the same:
Hmm...Spritzer’s post is a full on polemic attempting to supplant the polemics he attributes to others. I found myself not interested in reading the entire piece. Too much employment of discourse fallacies. Plus, I distrust his links to “Read the truth here.” Advise you to do the same. Easy truths are probably not true.
Agree but am always open to varying view points - but in this particular instance the more I read the more skeptical I became. I thought it was just me hence my asking for other opinions in case I had missed something. Did you read some of the comments?
At this point, we have to assume that all governments and institutions are lying.
The balance of power will always be a reliable guide as to whom to believe and whom to ignore. The weak have only the truth to cling to. The powerful have force.
Change comes from the barrel of a gun. - Mao
That could apply to a Revolution here in Amerikkka, Diego.
We require being well-armed.
I was once vehemently anti-gun until I understood that the overthrow of this regime is absolutely required.
No same person likes guns. I agree with you.
Yankees love their weapons more than their children.
George Orwell: “A people that elects corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors aren’t victims…but accomplices.”
And the old adage,who we are not supposed to criticize
Well I am outside the USA but lived there for 23yrs and it was NOT like this then. We left when GWB came in and I did not want to be called a 'pinko' or 'communist' again because I believed in Free education and healthcare. I know Reagan started this.
It’s called the Creeping Corporate Coup and nobody has paid the slightest bit of attention to it except maybe Ralph Nader who was laughed at by the Yuppies for a decade. Die Yuppie scum.
Yes. He's a good man Ralph but I notice nobody reads him much.
We were outside of usa for twenty plus years as expats. It was not like this when we left. Corrupt policies a bit more hidden. Now blatant unapologetic corruption. So we lied about iraq,whatever. And we keep repeating the same mistakes and same outcome.
They're not mistakes, chaos was the goal and the disappearing of tri$$ions the result. Fortunes in blood money to the worst people in world history.
True. Sorry about the word mistakes. Of course it was never a mistake
Matt Taibbi pinned the tail on the donkey over a decade ago, when he said that the country America most resembled was post-Soviet Russia, with an all powerful oligarchy, a sham democracy, and a rampant corrupt enabled by a compliant bureaucracy and laws that amounted to an in-justice system.
I do not think there is a need to make an ass out of u and me. All governments and institutions are lying to the public.
not like the US government and institutions lie. they are a whole different category of liar.
but not everything they say is a lie, right?
At the “heart” of every Lie is a manipulated kernel of truth to lend it plausibility
You are correct, sometimes it's a limited hangout.
The factual material far exceeds the lies. Here's just one for you:
https://nca2023.globalchange.gov
bill wolfe: Climate change is happening, but their so called "solutions" or attempts to slow it down are bullshit. For example the electric car "solution".
But how do we know? Any kind of institution or bureaucracy has protecting itself as its first task. If that takes lying, so be it. For the embattled -- and by definition the state is always at least potentially embattled -- truth is a luxury to be enjoyed by the elite at leisure. And often in distant retrospect.
The US government knows that radiation causes cancer and death and nuclear bombs, but they continue to mine uranium, allow nuke power plants, and build A-bombs and H-bombs.
The US government knows that smoking causes cancer and kills millions of people, yet they allow tobacco companies to sell cigarettes.
The US government knows that toxic chemicals cause cancer, yet they still allow corporate polluters to dump millions of pounds of these chemicals in the air are breath and water were drinking and food we eat.
Why do you think the government would't be producing greenhouses gases when they know they cause climate change? I hear the same ignorant and absurd claim made about elites flying in private jets: if climate change were real, the government wouldn't allow them to fly!
Your logic is more flawed than your climate denial. This is what happens to an under-educated brain marinated in conspiracy theories and assuming everything the government says is a lie.
Jon Carver: Of course they know that. They don't really care or they think god will step in and save them or something. Or maybe they have built underground bunkers for the elite and they think that will save them.
Without government - no one would be able to pursue their self interest. The lie is that we'll all be better off allowing the rich to run our lives with their corporations and privatized ownership. Corporations are far worse than any representative government .
It should also be pointed out here that the US no longer possesses a Representative government, it is now controlled and dictated by Monied interests - the very people Libertarians would foolishly give more power to - given the Libertarian Peter Pan psychology that government is always evil and extreme Individualism is always good - which plays right into the hands of the already obscenely rich.
Who runs them?
capitalists.
It’s Zionist capitalists. Now yell out your answer again. How fun.
Human beings, I believe.
Voltaire:
If you require to know who controls you, look to the ones whom you are not allowed to criticize.
It’s pretty obvious who THEY are.
And we will probably get a very wise cat coming along before long to verify that.
Cats are indeed very wise, and we are fortunate to have the wisest of all as a commenter here!
Cats should run the world. It would at least be free of vermin.
capitalist humans
Are you sure? It'd be a bit comforting to believe the MAGAts that the Empire was being run by lizards. Knowing that humans are doing all this and condoning this after putting on rose tinted glasses is...too real.
If you drill down, you can easily see who is doing this. Its the ones who call themselves jews, but are not. Ask Jesus.
Amazing, isn't it?
We have extortion
And yet America’s population is only 2% Jewish.
Lest anyone claim it’s pure talent, note the gross failure of the policies overseen by these people, domestically and internationally. And not just now but over the course of long careers.
Apparently the road to success is not to know more or do better. It’s to be of the right origin and to subscribe to the right cult views.
GFW Hegel (The Philosophy of History): “What experience and history teaches us is that people and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it.”
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson: “We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world — bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are whores for power and oil with hate and fear in our hearts.”
John Kenneth Galbraith: “The modern Conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
There is no such thing as Yankee left-wingers or liberals.
Yankees are just white lynch mob buttheads looking for a tree.
I.F. Stone (In a Time of Torment, 1961-1967): “All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out.”
Disaster waits for fools who vote for liars, frauds, rapists, dripping sacks of excremental lies, and, corrupt traitors.
Biden and Trump, Racist Nixon, Senile Ronny Raygun, and all the rest, aren’t the problem.
American monkeys are the problem, stretching back to Washington, who would rather sell his slaves than free them to volunteer for his army.
Robert Mitchum was making a movie in Trinidad with John Huston. Mitchum walked around a lobby corner and found Huston masturbating the hotel's pet monkey. Mitchum asked, 'Why? Why do you do this, John?' 'The monkey likes it', said Huston, 'He really likes it!’
George Orwell: “A people that elects corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors aren’t victims…but accomplices.”
Wonderful quotes!
A few vying for top prize. USA, also what we do. Think pandoras box is now open
I think that's mostly western capitalist Govts.
You beat me saying this.
1. If Hamas is behaving so barbaricly, why does Israel present so many fake atrocities?
2. If Israel has so much evidence, why do they present so much fake evidence?
Gosh, such a head-scratcher! 🤔
Uh...marketing?
Barbarically.
I hear it every day, LOL.
Was I an "anti-Semite, my every word.dripping with Jew-hate" when I was in Ukraine and confronting actual confessed Nazis putting up antisemitic posters?
Oh you mean my dear friend Russian-Bot.
Well Che we must be thinking alike or the same people or we are twins.
You looking to join his SS unit? He's recruiting. Anybody. Even the ones in France.
💋
Sadly, he’s a bully. I think he’s had a few good insights but he ALWAYS gratuitously attacks others with a different point of view and when he has the dummest thing to say, he says the dummest things to promote it. Still, I’m rebel enough to “defend to the death his right to say it.”
Hitler-lover is out to spread lies - Israel style. Now, you and your tiny Waffen SS unit here in this forum won't be getting away with this. Sieg Heil!
I don't know if you're actually Russian. But you do the bot thing really well.
Something I've realized for quite a while: while it's quite difficult for a bot to convincingly simulate human self-aware consciousness, it's a simple matter for humans to simulate bots, by spouting robotic boilerplate and trigger phrases. The conditioned zombie sleepwalk affect is the same.
Now let's see if you're human. You might be if you don't care about context. For bots it's easier to just retrieve what happened before to establish it. Humans tend to just say "fuck it" and start considering things from the third act of the play. Like as if the current story started on Oct 7, 2023.
So if you care a bit about what's going on here you might want to go to the previous Caitlin's post and see where the Obersharführer Che came out of the closet. And why from now on he's going to be treated as having a Hitler altar that he kneels daily at.
I agree with you about the Abrahamic religions— worse than the others. But the Palestinians are Moslem and I’m Pro-Palestian. Jewish Voice for Peace are my hero’s. The christians I can hardly tolerate but I think the Pope is helping change world opinion for the better. It depends on what you do with your faith, not what faith you are. And, frankly, hating is destructive no matter who does it to whom.
religions with a supremacist deity on top of a hierarchy are the blueprint of fascist capitalist anti-democracy.
funny thing is that often journalists and academics that are really somewhat succeeding in criticising israel have jewish roots. it's harder to call them anti-semetic, yet they're not spared.
I’d go a sttt er p back and say that in the U.S. succeeding in academia dnd in journalism is an ethnically handicapped race - no pun incensed - in the first place.
For whatever reason, a disproportionate majority of the top level people in these fields in that country are of Jewish ethnicity in the first place.
And God help you if you are Latino or Asian or African American in the U.S. coming up the ranks in those fields and you hold such views critical of Israel. Your career is mostly dead on the back of that - if it wasn’t already stillborn due to lack of insider connections.
That's such nonsensical horseshit. Contemporary Judaism is as multifarious as most other religions nowadays. It's at least as sectarian as Islam or Christianity. None of the "Abrahamic religions" resemble the monolithic caricature of Pop Atheist fantasies.
There are so many posters in Substack comments who are out of their depth with their sweeping oversimplifications about religion and theism that it's a waste of time to engage any of you on the subject. I don't have time to do the teach-in, especially to people who are completely out of their depth on those subjects, and either don't realize it or are thoroughly content with it.
Instead, I confine my commentary here to directly cogent political points and factual observations. As a rule.
Consider this post an exception. I just need to get it on the record that not everyone posting in Caitlin's story comments thrives on recurrently diverting the discussion into an atheist group hug. You all can deceive yourselves that all reasonable people share your callow middle-school takes on philosophy and history, but don't flatter yourselves that the lack of protracted disagreement with your shallow takes constitutes evidence of consensus. Some of us just prefer to keep our statements on-topic and well out of the realm of fiat conclusions delivered in regard to topics of universal scope, which are typically scantily informed by subjective personal perspectives that masquerade as Final Wisdom, leavened only by the usual predictable select handful of cliche examples and historical factoids.
Those of us who haven't checked out of CJ discussions entirely, that is, recognizing that unlike some Substack pages where the comment discussion is at least as worthwhile than the articles, the information value to be found on Caitlin's page is almost entirely found in her own posts.
Granted, Feral Finster posts here, and that makes for reliably entertaining reading. Worth noting that whatever FF's theological orientation or lack of one, Finster knows better than to derail conversations into the pompous anti-religion diatribes and associated pile-on subthreads that so often crop up in the comments of Substacks for writers like Caitlin Johnstone, Chris Hedges, and Bill Astore. Even if the preening antitheist activists here could manage to strip their pamphleteering of its sneering hostility, it would still be off-topic.
It would've been great if you stepped in when that bellicose type had their batteries near full charge. This comment would cause a short and leave the comment section a lot cleaner as a result.
Not just "at this point," but for decades and decades.
My own heuristics, which has never failed me: The balance of power will always be a reliable guide as to whom to believe and whom to not believe. For the weak have only the truth to cling to. The powerful have force and other means.
I'm not sure I've ever believed the Israeli government (or the US government), especially since 911. Even before, when I discovered what the Israeli government did to the sailors on the USS Liberty in 1967. What they did to Rachel Corrie showed their true character, savages.
911 was the tipping point for me too, opening my eyes to the evil of man and the USA. I knew it was pre-planned and 100% certain it was a controlled demolition of all 3 buildings.... But, I loved math and physics at High School, plus had a stopwatch and scientific calculator handy.
Ditto
And 9-11.
means, motive, and they could manufacture the opportunity. this is the most credible JFK assassination theory I have seen.
the powers that be wanted them all dead. especially MLK Jr.
Sickening. Not sure what can be done to stop this. UN seems completely dysfunctional and the USA vetoes everything. Other than the Houthis, nobody has the backbone to actually stand up to this.
Biden has already named this so expect more war. Operation Prosperity Guardian
Now if anyone believes these words????????????/
Jenny, don’t you just LOVE the names that Amerikkka and Israhell come up with for their “operations “?
Who thinks this shit up? 😂
my favorite was "OIL". they changed it to OIF or something.
Hello Gypsy. I am laughing because I can't imagine! So many labels and acronyms now I think they are intended to make us go nutz!
Listen whose talking.
Demented owm. Timez up
This is what experts say is going to happen. I believe that the Zionists and Empire want this to happen. I think that the Empire is infiltrated with the Evangelicals that want Armageddon.
As you know the Zionists are their prophetic axis of the ascension and they intend to unleash it.
I'm not convinced it is all pre-planned. I think the owners/bankers just love endless chaos and destruction, and then work out how to make money out of it.
Yes, isn't that called Disaster Capitalism and there is another term along those lines. The first was might have been coined by an excellent economist; After a crisis, private contractors move in and suck up funding for work done badly, if at all – then those billions get cut from government budgets. Like Grenfell Tower, Hurricane Katrina revealed a disdain for the poor. By Naomi Klein
by Naomi Klein.
Actually her book is named The Shock Doctrine. I don't know if it was her that wrote of the Capitalists that profit off wars, I'm sure that it is in there, but I believe that there are other books out now that are covering that same tactic.
In terms of war and profit and capitalism, there is a fantastic book written in 1935 by Major General Smedley Butler called "War is a Racket".
You can read it for free here: https://archive.org/details/WarIsARacket
Thank you. I am aware of him and read much on his disgust in the U.S. and it's lending of U.S. troops to Big Business out just about anyone that profits someone other than U.S. citizens.
I appreciate the link. I have been intending to read this for a very long time.
He definitely wasn't rewarded for blowing the whistle on the Wallstreet Gang that hired him to overthrow FDR in favor of their investments type of government in 1939.
I read Naomi's book. She's gone off the rails of late, but that book was a classic. Also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btF6nKHo2i0
Oh yes. I read about his book and what it said and I may have seen this. Excellent. I think he is a contributor to Tom Engleharts's website, tomdispatch.com.
It may have been Perkins that exposed the fact that when the Columbian government extended an offer to give Snowden political asylum, our government sent down a 'messenger' or just called. They informed them that since they are the #1 supplier of this country's imported flowers they had better rescind that offer. They did.
I read that there are some that advise against what the top Cabinet members in his coalition are advocating, but not very many care to speak up. There are some very senior retired ZDF speaking out against this government's plan and they admit it's all according to plan, the genocide that is. If they're anything like the so-called "adults in the room" like trumpy had, they'll speak up after they can't be punished by the Netanyahu group.
I don't know, but I doubt that a senior coalition member would go against the top members that are and have been proven to be Zionists and followers of hardcore Zionists. As to proof of my assertion, I can't to dig up the reference material at the moment and I'm not sure that I bookmarked it. I've been trying to be more conscientious about doing that and sometimes I've assumed I haven't when in fact I did surprising myself.
No Jon I don't agree. I have hundreds of Jewish friends and they are truly sad about this.
I have hundreds of non Jewish friends too and some are sad about this, others pay as little attention as possible and probably some support Israel, Jewish or not.
I'm of the opinion that 'real' Jews would not approve of any of what the Zionists have been doing for the last nearly 80 years. I'm believing that the people who claim to be Jews and are participating and cheering this on are really Zionists.
I'm of the mind that they have an infestation like us, people like the MAGAts claiming to be Christians, but after many years of nastiness and falsehoods those claiming to be Jews aren't really. Of course they would be shocked if you pointed out that they aren't really.
In the West or here in the U.S. we all know that these 'Christians' are really White Supremacist Fascists wanting this country for themselves, a Christian Nation Only and any non-MAGA or 'different' religion/color/atheist would be STAMPED out.
How would you know?
Read the very first sentence. Opinion.
Ono. Ellen, This wasn’t meant for you. I’m so sorry. The way substack does comments, I have to remember to name the person I’m replying to. I completely agree with what you said. In fact I’ve heard there is a sect of Judaism that believes Israhell is the exact opposite of what their sacred books teach.
Whenever someone says “ it’s a fact”, you can be sure it’s just an opinion.
This was meant for Jon the pontif Carver and his extensive knowledge of what most Jews want.
Look at Hindustan Times for info on how the allies are stepping up! Australia is sending 11 whole soldiers. Some other dopey country is sending 1! One soldier! It’s hy-larious! And if the Gazans weren’t suffering so massively I’d laugh. Thank you Houthi’s for bringing world trade to an almost standstill. .
Here’s hopin’. But I don’t know what’s happening in the Seychelles? Can you tell me? Any and all small rebel groups will do most of the good work now, with all these alliances and international “considerations” keeping strong nations from actually HELPING the Gazans.
O. Got it. No, I think it was Norway or some such. These idiot NATO nations who want to comply so they don’t get in trouble but don’t really want to do it. If everybody’d just stand up to us, it would be some much better in the world. A bully is a bully is a bully!
Ansar Allah follow a strict path to defend the faithful. This is very wise if not obvious to Western Warpigs.
Israel is a country built on lies.
Lies like Palestine was a country "without a people for a people without a country"; Palestine was "undeveloped"; Palestine was empty, then "settled" by Arab Muslim hordes who emerged from Arabia (vs conversion to Islam after the region was conquered by Arab Muslims in the 8th Century); the Zionists repeatedly offered peace plans in 1947/48, 1967, etc., mostly outright fabrications in that others put forth plans which invariably short-changed the indigenous Palestinians by blocking true national sovereignty AND leaving Jewish settlers in place and constantly expanding. Think the "settling of the West" in US history.
The one silver lining in the current bloody tragedy is that the true face of Colonizer Israel is on display in its manifold raw public declarations and deliberate military actions to exterminate Gaza as a viable society and ultimately ethnicly-cleanse the West Bank of its indigenous population which it has repressed for over 50 years.
The truth is finally emerging to the world in the ashes, in the rubble, and on the bodies of 20,000 Palestinians and counting. The truth is written in the blood of 10,000 Gazan children.
Hi Nabil
Last night I was over on RT, and one commenter noted that if Israhell was bombing ANIMAL SHELTERS indiscriminately, the world would erupt with rage.
Yes this an interesting point and I agree.
israel, proof that monsters exist. We need no further proof. My heroes are the Palestinian people and the people of Ansar Allah. Every day I wake thinking how can I go on supporting this genocide of Joe Biden and yet I get up work on an experiment I love and my life's work and continue feeding the monster. Question, outside our building a row of flags. The flag of israel punches me in the face every time I walk into the building, walk into the hall, get a cup of coffee. Should my letter be, raise a Palestinian flag or take down the flag of genocide? Every building should be given notice remove the flag of genocide. A pirate flag would be far more honest. I read Caitlin's brilliant words not expecting to write any of this not wanting to distract others. If only I could reach into the hell of Gaza.
Jesus, but you’re a hateful shithead.
The past 2 years have seen the most momentous change in the power structure of the world. Accelerated by the proxy war and the world's abhorrence at the treatment of Gaza; China and Russia are now at the top of a growing BRICS alliance increasing in purpose, integrity and economic might as the US and UK (the EU has already been shafted by the US) behave like unhinged lunatics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkuKnYdtW9w
g&d—- this is what people are saying is the end of empire. A snake bitting itself in the throes of death. Can’t happen fast enough but a whole lot of people are going to suffer as we go down.
Yes, millions in Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Palestine and Yemen have already suffered the death throes of domination by the Empire. There is still time for an uprising of sense in the people of the West i think though probably it's looking pretty bleak in the short term.
It's going to be interesting to see how BRICS+ diplomacy evolves. I would predict that the UN will eventually be abandoned if it is not reformed to prevent monopolization by the permanent UNSC members. We will probably see the beginning of the BRICS+ alternative diplomatic track in 2024.
I think so too.
I am wishing everyone a calm Xmas. We have decided to treat it as just another day because I simply cannot think of stuffing myself while people are dying. Just a nice walk along the beach with our dog.
Caitlin have a holiday if you can and thank you for being brave.
Thank you Jenny - if this had been 9-11 but on 12/20 or something closer to 12/25, Christmas would've been cancelled. I too am so consumed with sorrow and cannot imagine celebrating anything! Once again the Brits are always so far above us intellectually - the BDS Movement is huge - whereas on this side of the Pond they undoubtedly think it's another medical aliment!
Merry Christmas from my dog Vincent to you and yours!
Hi BJ
Happy Solstice from my eight cats—-Jodi, Peanut, Sage, Thistledown, Teasel, Sweet Pea, Mandy and Peaches—-to you and Vincent 🙂
MY two cats Zappa and Twiggy say Meeeowwwwwww
Enjoy my guesswork 😎
Twiggy:
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Zappa's strategic location:
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OMG 8? God bless you!! I have two and Vincent!
🤠 WOW! EIGHT cats!!! With all those purry friends, I can see why you can consistently be upbeat despite all the woes in this world. My beloved kitty died in 2014, so I have not had the privilege of kitty company for nearly a decade now.
Howevah, I have a collection of kitty graphics that I use for emphasis now and then in posts in my forum. Here's are several that you and other cat lovers here will enjoy:
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I join you in sharing your sorrow and wishing a 🕯️ Merry ✨ Christmas to all here.
These lines from "A Christmas Carol" are quite applicable to the Murderous Israeli Zionists AND Genocide Joe Biden:
Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir." ... ... and many would rather die."
"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population." ... ...
"Man," said the Ghost 🕊️, "if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man's child.
Oh God! to hear the Insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust."
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Hi BJ
I now have an Irish passport but have lived in France for the last 25yrs. Never liked the Brits. Any country you can think of at the moment is in a mess. France is driving me mad but at least we do not have this religious shit. Separation of Church and State actually works MOSTLY.
I will tell Diego he has a friend called Vincent.
Hey - we got a full blown Jew hating Nazi on the board here.
More hate eh? I wonder how far that hate has gotten you in life?
We have another bona fide card carrying SS-Einsatzgruppe member here. Report to Oberscharführer Che. He keeps records. For further scientific analysis.
You're a liar. Your today's comments clearly show you are deranged.
And wipe that foam off your mouth, will ya? Obersharführer Che wants his Sturmabteilung neat.
I this is fun. You two deserve each other.
Nothing Christ supposedly said indicated he was a hatemonger. The mangling of his words and deeds by his supposed followers is on them. And this is from a strong atheist who has absolutely no religious or supernatural belief whatsoever.
Sure, he's a fictional character, but fictional characters can also be worthwhile sages. In fact, they're probably the only ones.
You’re a dumb cocksucker.
It’s as likely that the possible/probable fictional character Jesus was a Palestinian, and not a Jew.
You have any DNA evidence bitch?
And, I’m pretty certain that Zionism wasn’t yet invented when the alleged prince of peace was born.
I think that the Jewish state of Israel should never have been invented, and must end.
I think that the Talmud is a supremacist doctrine, and adherents should be called out constantly.
But, the shit you peddle is beyond the pale, and unhelpful towards a solution to the occupation of Palestine.
Are you all about attention, Jon Carver?
Try only fans.
Suck some circumcised dick.
Hold the attached balls with both hands.
That way you can’t type or talk.
I’m anti-censorship, but this seems like a good alternative.
Jon, as a Pagan, I wish you a Happy Solstice.
Agree: FUCK CHRISTMAS!
The so-called Christians stole our traditions and even placed the “day of Jesus’ birth” close to our Solstice in order to convert Pagans.
i had forgotten about the Church's propensity for stealing holidays.
Yep, Pretzel, “Easter” is yet another.
too true. I read about some astrologers who proved that the star the wise guys followed was a conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn and it occurred on April 4th not Dec 25th.
Yes, the default is that all members of the Blob GAE are lying all the time...Israel is a special case, since it has been an outlaw that only exists because of Blob military support, yet it can't go for even one year without committing war crimes that would get another country shunned and ultimately destroyed...
lying "all the time"? You sure about that?
try this:
https://nca2023.globalchange.gov
Just read something pertinent to this:
Egypt is in serious debt. There is a proposal being talked about that Egypt will allow the Palestinians home in the Sinai and the IMF will cancel their debt!
NO NO NO.
I am not a person who believes in fake anything but I AM beginning to wonder if this was the idea in the first place. Israel get more land.
yep, Greater Israel, the Israeli version of the Manifest Destiny ideology of the US.
I feel like breaking something!
I’ll help, Jon!
I DO, Che!
Now, if I could only get close.. 😉
A country can't lie. Only their illegitimate government can.
*No Such Thing As a Progressive Democrat*
“No true progressive would be a WILLING member of the corporate owned, corrupt, primary rigging, wall street butt licking, warmongering, genocidal Dem Party!” - Thor Swayze
Well, "progressive" is a weasel word until you know which sort of "progress' is being referred to. For the Nazis of the 1930s and 1940s, Naziism was progressive.
The problems in the world today are the Direct Result of US Empire building. So many Americans income is derived at the tax trough. Robbing Peter to pay Paul, you can count on Paul's support. This link is to an International law that both the US and Israel Ratified, it should be enforced with a vengeance; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Prevention_and_Punishment_of_the_Crime_of_Genocide
Enforced by whom? The governments of Russia and China are biding their time on the theory that you should never interfere with you enemy when he is making a mistake.
Ironic that during that time the first soiree into genocide had been happening in Palestine at Zionists/Empire's hands since 1946.
Well that's hypocrites and liars for you.
The creator Yawea, struck them down, put a plague on them, then cast them out to be without a land of their own and chased by the sword for a reason. Those reasons have multiplied. They have not been GODS chosen people for 2023 years since they killed their Messiah. Despite all their lies, propaganda they are murderers throughout their hidden,censored history. Ask? Who you can not question! They are the usurpers and enemy of freedom.
Nation of Israel needs to ask God for forgiveness from their many transgressions . The Israeli people need to reach an epiphany to a revival of
Spiritual morality and freedom from their current oppressors in the Likud government. I believe the majority of citizens there strongly object to the
Unwarranted level of death and violence inGaza, but they need to form a mass movement to threaten the stability of the current extreme right
Governing
As military service is essentially mandatory, IMO most Are indoctrinated Zionists that view others like this quote ; "Our race is the master race! We are divine God's on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. Other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Our Destiny is to Rule over the inferior races, the masses will lick our feet and serve as Our Slaves!" - Menachem Begin, founder of the Likud
What I want to do is to encourage more of us to think about new ways to think and act on this issue.
here must be a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, not with Palestinians suffering under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
Please sign the petition and share widely.
https://chng.it/CRQ7qw4Gzn
Other petitions, including
Codepink:
https://www.codepink.org/cnngaza?utm_campaign=12_15_pali_update_alert_3&utm_medium=email&utm_source=codepink
Ceasefire Now:
https://www.change.org/p/sign-and-share-this-urgent-petition-calling-for-a-ceasefirenow-in-gaza-and-israel
Signing petitions is one small thing we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.
Hi Joy
I contacted my US congressman at his DC office to the point of harassment ( usually three or four times a day.)
When I saw Code Pink’s most recent list of congressfolk who had signed onto Cori Bush’s legislation for a permanent ceasefire, guess who was on it! 😁
I can’t claim to have done this by myself, but I believe I had a hand in it 😉
Absolutely fabulous. All we can do, and more! That’s my motto for the duration.
I just signed. Thank you for bringing this to the attention of readers here.
Thank you!
Nazis said the same thing about the Jews. Spewing out the same level of hatred as you spew out regularly.
A friendly note about your headline: While at war, all nation states (of whatever political leaning) routinely lie about that war. Official statements and associated partisan media should never be read w/o intense skepticism.
Most of mainstream media in the US relies heavily on official and quasi-official Israeli sources for their reporting on the Gaza campaign. This is irresponsible journalism ... except in the sense of the editors being responsible to the State Department’s preferred take.
this isn't a war, this is a massacre. the editors and reporters are corrupt, not irresponsible.
Yes Pretz but remember the ones in Gaza who're sacrificing their lives to tell the truth
oh i heartily agree, the ones getting whacked are honest and extremely courageous, as well the ones who remain to report the truth despite the danger.
Charles, I read this Substack and all the included links and it left my head spinning - I am curious to hear your thoughts on this since you mention the same:
https://johnspritzler.substack.com/p/antisemitism-is-loved-by-both-jewish?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1943022&post_id=139956085&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=n3tj&utm_medium=email
Hmm...Spritzer’s post is a full on polemic attempting to supplant the polemics he attributes to others. I found myself not interested in reading the entire piece. Too much employment of discourse fallacies. Plus, I distrust his links to “Read the truth here.” Advise you to do the same. Easy truths are probably not true.
Agree but am always open to varying view points - but in this particular instance the more I read the more skeptical I became. I thought it was just me hence my asking for other opinions in case I had missed something. Did you read some of the comments?
Seriously, please study and report back how to get beyond the nation state... it is only about 300 years new.