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Diana van Eyk's avatar

And when we can see it while others can't, we feel like a Cassandra helplessly telling the truth while no one listens.

But we have many tools, and more people are waking up to what's going on all the time.

Let's keep the momentum going...

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JennyStokes's avatar

Protest outside Mainstream Media.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Israel does this to prove its power over us.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Oh, like you mean sadistically. They're guilty of sadism too! Who would've thunk it.

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JennyStokes's avatar

It seems to me that these Zionists are not getting any sex/from their women...... so they screw men and Palestinian hostages and probably animals too.

I have absolutely NO problem with homosexuality but it seems these disgusting/assinine men love screwing men/especially Palestinian HOSTAGES held in Jail without recourse to any Justice.

I have had enough of this depravity which is why endlessly I repeat.

Don't protest 'in the street' protest outside MSM (mainstream Media.

I don't comment much anymore mainly because I am sick and tired of the 'sheep people!'

Imagine if Hamas raped one Israeli soldier?

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Susan T's avatar

It has nothing at all to do with being sexually satifisfied. It is only about power. As are all rapes.

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JennyStokes's avatar

You may be right Susan and because I am not an Israeli man I cannot tell you.

Yes your thought is pertinent. However why is the birthrate dropping in Israel?

Is this because women do not want baby's or is it that men can get satisfaction elsewhere?

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Susan T's avatar

Maybe the men are impotent when it comes to normal sexuality.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I'm so tired, Jenny. I've tried everything. Down here in the southwest, I've tried the Catholic angle on Hispanics. The analogy to Zionism and Judaism, I've suggested to them is what the conquistadors did -- murdered native peoples in the Americas, ethnic cleansing, using Christianity, the cross of Jesus as a cover -- by analogy to Zionism using Judaism as a cover for murdering Palestinians, native people. It seems like it might get through occasionally. But like all other Muricans, they're so bloody propagandized that I'm beating my head against a brick wall. TIRED!

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JennyStokes's avatar

How long can we keep commenting Vin?

I keep trying to CONNECT: Until the MSM is blasted out of existence there is NO hope.

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Susan T's avatar
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"And when you turn on the TV you see famous people laughing and making jokes with fake plastic grins, babbling about vapid nonsense." And mainstream news is about hockey games, chasing butterflies, shoplifters, while the story about 15 medics murdered in Israel cannot be found. All we can do is keep talking, keep saying no, keep hoping that we will be heard.

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Marten's avatar

Amen...THEY keep them on "Hopium"

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Having summarily murdered my TV in 2013, I purged that particular problem, but it's the same online. Except for the few sites of consistent sanity like the Grayzone or Electronic Intifada. But there are still some mostly OK sites online, where dribbles of the propaganda still trickle through, where I get the impression that presenters still fearfully look over their shoulder at a Zionist ogre threatening them. Even though most of us here are pretty aware of the Zionist lobby's power, I think that at times we may still underestimate it.

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Dianelos Georgoudis's avatar

Israel's Haaretz is a good source as well. Also follow John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs. If you're an European, Glenn Diesen is good.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I listen to Professors Sachs and Diessen regularly, thanks. My two examples were meant only to be illustrative, not exhaustive. Katie Halper and Aaron Maté on the Useful Idiots podcast are also reliably anti-Zionist without any "dribbles". Also Mondoweiss.

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SW's avatar

You summed it up perfectly. One nonsense story after another.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

"only a small minority are reacting to history’s first live-streamed genocide with an appropriate level of horror."

Sadly, the more I interact with folks who are not blessed with the level of understanding possessed by most of my friends on this site, the more I find this to be true -- and it's truly disheartening.

Wake the hell up, America!

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Bob - Enough's avatar

Those that have awakened have awakened. End of.

Those that have not yet (after the plandemic), will not and can not.

When you "awaken" and realise YOUR WHOLE PREVIOUS LIFE has been a lie shoved down your throat by unscrupulous scum; for many in can be a blessing, but for many it can be a curse. So many of the ignorant masses would (well past denial), just want to live in their cotton wool World and carry on, without taking that leap of faith. (Hope that makes sense).

1 off-track example ... tried to explain to my Sister about the digital wallet, 15-minute neighbourhoods, Smart Cities, digital currency and everything (digital wallet, tracking us, telling us what we can eat purchase, greenhouse footprints etc) - and her moronic response was just "Sounds great, because I have done nothing wrong !). I stick with my first sentence.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I wish I had a cogent rebuttal, Bob, but alas I have none. The example of your sister seems pretty much on track to me because it illustrates what I fear from my own experience to be a pretty common response -- "I'm clean, they'll leave me alone". Hence, one might say that the last line of my original comment more or less constitutes a scream into the void.

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Bob - Enough's avatar

But you would not be on sites like this, unless you overcame "the implanted fear" ...

Oh you do have "cogent rebuttal", but I know what you mean and in a way; I am very similar. I sort (however stupid this may sound),made my peace and stopped trying non-stop, to get family, friends, some neighbours etc to wake up, as it wasting their time and my time and it does not mean I do not care... nor did I give up. I still send facts, figures, articles ... but will only have a conversation, if they ask questions... positive or negative.

"We", yes "we" on sites like this, may get a few converts to the "good side"; but if there is still hope for .. but why scream into the void ?... you are only frustrating yourself ! ... so I don't now... just leave it with an internal "ah well !" or "not another".... Cheers.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Converts? I'm hardly St. Francis. So that seems unlikely. Ah well!

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Bob - Enough's avatar

lol.

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martin's avatar

i don't think any of those things are inherently bad, were it not for the profit motive. opposition to these is also often organised because of the same profit motive, imo.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

It's amazing how little the fascists in power try to hide their immoral and evil behaviors nowadays. It's like they feel utterly safe and secure in the knowledge that they'll get away with it.

Wait a moment...They are.

It's up to us to rattle their cages and let them know that they're not getting away with it. Happy May Day, everyone.

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denise ward's avatar

Yes and they will continue to happen. Why should they not? What have we done about them? Are you still paying taxes? Are you still using banking? Then you're part of it. I love you to pieces but let's get real shall we. We can send these ghouls running but we've done nothing. Absolutely nothing. Except the same as we've always done.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

Not true, not fair. Those who should be leading, those who have some privilege like Democrat politicians, media, universities have (almost) all caved and done nothing but people have turned out repeatedly for huge demonstrations. Right, those have virtually no effect, but you have to give it time--they are the breeding grounds for the building of solidarity and the building of strategic planning for more effective tactics.

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Scuba Cat's avatar

I think it's unreasonable to expect there will be a critical mass of Agorists or people who choose to live off-grid on a homestead, barring complete societal collapse.

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Robert H Stiver's avatar

"And the good news is that we can all help do this." Right, Caitlin...you help "do this" day after day after principled day. Bless you...Bless the mass of Gazans. Weep....

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Gnuneo's avatar

It's the Big Lie.

Every sociopath knows to lie as bigly as possible.

Our normal brains are simply not wired to comprehend such behaviour.

It takes time, and practise, and concentration, and a willingness to face up to the horror; and the strength not to fall into the same behaviour ourselves.

After all, only a glance will show this is the path to wealth and 'power', and always has been.

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Rodolfo Marusi Guareschi's avatar

THE COLLAPSE OF A SYSTEM

Economic relations largely determine social, civil, political, moral and religious behaviors and relationships.

Money, as a measure of material value and a means of exchange and reserve of value, is the element through which economic relations are formed, because with money we buy natural resources, means of production and labor through which natural resources are transformed into products.

Modern money is created from nothing by the banking system through loans with interest

Whoever grants the loan simply records the amount of the loan as a liability and a credit of the same amount towards the beneficiary of the loan as an asset.

At the expected maturity, the beneficiary must repay the loan received plus the related interest.

Since there is no money to pay the interest, whoever granted the loan must create more money with a new loan with interest.

For this reason, the money supply is constantly increasing.

The interest on the loan serves partly to support the costs of whoever issues it and partly to accumulate wealth.

But where does this wealth come from? The accumulation of wealth comes from profit, which in turn comes from surplus value, equal to the difference between the actual value of the work done to produce and the value recognized in the work.

This difference, or surplus labor, is the exploitation of the work of others.

Therefore, interest is nothing more than the subtraction of part of the profit (or part of the surplus value or part of the surplus labor).

In short, interest on loans comes from the exploitation of labor.

The value of money is therefore guaranteed by the credit (loan plus interest) for which the money itself was issued (created).

If, due to the fall in the rate of profit on the capital employed in production (caused by technological progress), profit is no longer able to sustain the interest on loans, and is even no longer able to sustain the repayment of the loan, the guarantee on the money issued is reduced and the money issued loses value, that is, it loses purchasing power.

The more money loses purchasing power, the less the issuer can dominate the entire system.

In the end, all that remains are bad debts and therefore worthless money.

Therefore, propaganda and the force to dominate can no longer be paid.

At that point, what is left? Natural resources and those who can lend their labor to cultivate, extract and produce remain.

Thus, from the crisis of an economic system, a new economic system can and must be born that would be good if it had objectives other than profit and was based on economic relationships different from the past.

By changing the economic system, all social, civil, political, moral and religious behaviors and relationships necessarily change.

We produce to satisfy everyone's needs instead of consuming to produce to make a profit to pay interest to accumulate wealth.

Social relationships based on cooperation instead of competition are established.

Political relationships based on participation instead of the domination of a minority over the majority are formed.

All intermediation in human relationships is eliminated and the possibility of development of consciences is freed.

We recognize the truth of reality instead of taking refuge in the transcendent and mysticism.

It is the end of prehistory and the beginning of the history of the human species.

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CrumpledForeskin's avatar

Exactly. It’s capitalism that is at the root of the ailments in our society. People must own the means of production. Capitalism is slavery!

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

No. Capitalism is a branch,not the root. These evils (e.g. slavery) existed before capitalism. The root started several thousand years ago with a culture based on domination--of women by men, lower classes by upper classes, and above all, everyone else by humans, who decided they OWNED the rest of the web of life. This culture was expansionist and happy to use violence to conquer other, peaceful tribes and take over one territory after another. Capitalism is just one of its more recent tools, which helped speed its domination--fossil fuels were another. But now it's hitting the endgame, as we are in serious overshoot.

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gypsy33's avatar

Mary, don’t forget the utter and detestable notion of “white superiority”.

How many slaves, deprived of education, could have become George Washington Carvers?

How many Native Americans could have imparted their deep knowledge of botanical solutions to us?

How many murdered Palestinian medical students could have become world-class surgeons?

It’s ALWAYS been, and remains so, about white domination.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

It happens that the culture based on domination, that evolved out of the Middle East and through Rome to Europe, ended up being literally embodied by white people. It also happened that the forefront is English speakers. But that's not because of anything about European genes or the English language, it could have played out differently. The problem is--the REAL root cause of all our troubles--is that a culture based on domination, that feels free to use violence to snatch other people's land and resources, will generally WIN in conflicts with more peaceable and egalitarian groups--so it ends up with the land after the peaceful tribe is either conquered or flees. And this way of life depends on expansion, because improper farming methods deplete the soil, deforestation silts up rivers, warfare requires a steady supply of young men trained as warriors and of metal weapons, and the settled life allows women to produce large numbers of children. Then there was the fact that the domestication of livestock enhanced the spread of diseases, and the buildup of large cities in Europe meant virulent diseases could thrive, moving from one area to the next--which meant European populations evolved resistance to these germs which slew the natives of other continents is great numbers, making the conquest easier and no doubt leading both sides to imagine that God favored the white man. Racism has been a key part of this dynamic in recent centuries but I don't know as it always was.

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gypsy33's avatar

Well, think about it, Mary. So-called “civilization” began in Egypt, Persia, China and Greece.

But it wasn’t the Egyptians who drove the Native Americans to near-extinction.

It wasn’t the Persians (Iranians) who massacred millions in the Congo.

It wasn’t the Greeks who claimed the South Sea islands for themselves.

It wasn’t the Chinese who invaded the lower Americas and slaughtered the Aztecs in their quest for gold.

Ding! Time’s up! The answer is EUROPEANS! 😁

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

The civilization that began in Sumer and spread to Egypt, Persia, then Greece, then Rome and on to Europe is the one you're talking about. The Aztecs were plenty bloody but died out probably for ecological reasons; the Chinese committed plenty of mayhem but didn't go rampaging around conquering farflung places.

But fine--have it your way--white people are inherently evil and you will solve all the world's problems if you can just manage to wipe us all out.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

It was the civilization that began in Sumer and spread to Persia and then Greece and Rome, and then on to Europe, while the civilization of the Aztecs died out for other reasons. The Chinese dynasties committed plenty of mayhem but didn't go on a rampage of conquest.

But fine, have it your way--white people are inherently evil and you will solve the world's problems if you can manage to wipe us all out.

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martin's avatar

a culture based on domination is in essence capitalism. a relatively small class of owners exploit the labour of a large class. when this scheme comes under pressure it moves to the next stage called imperialism, when the misery it causes is largely exported to far away shores.

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CrumpledForeskin's avatar

Classes are a result of capitalism. Inequalities are a result of capitalism. It shapes people’s perceptions of life when you grow up in a society of classes, compared to growing up in an egalitarian society. I also consider feudalism and capitalism the same, just under a different name.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

Study history! How long has capitalism existed? A few centuries. Were there social classes before that? Yes, in some places, along with oppression of women, slavery, and destruction of nature. Capitalism is not the cause of oppression. It's a tool used by the oppressors. Along with corporations, which have done enormous harm but are not the root cause, they're a tool used by the oppressors.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

Which is not to say it isn't absolutely necessary to take down capitalism--there is no such thing as a benign capitalism. Ending capitalism and corporations are vital for human survival.

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martin's avatar

there is indeed no way to solve the problem of an oppressing minority without eliminating capitalism. capitalism without oppression is not possible.

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martin's avatar

taking on capitalism with anti-capitalism will go a long way.

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dacoelec's avatar

The average murican makes a box of rocks look smart, when it comes to world affairs.

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charles leone's avatar

Donald Trump, American icon for The Empire of Lies. A Pure egomaniacal narcissist who parades as a 'Man of Peace'. Truth is Trump is a 'Man of Piece' of Real Estate.

The future Bitcoin King wants to enslave the world for his Greater Glory.

He wants to buy Ukraine Minerals and Palestine property.

His tariff policy will bring fascism to Americans by causing hyperinflation in the form of supply chain shortages in the very near future. Eggs were the beginning of creating artificial shortages. Think of the present starvation of a million Palestinians enforced by bro Netanyahu's ZioNazis using food as a weapon.

King Donald wants to replace the British Royal King Charles.

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Slightly Lucid's avatar

Do you prefer his open bombastic grifting and genocide to the Democrats more polite, pro DEI grift and genocide?

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Caroline Graham's avatar

So well written ! How about the fanatic Xtian Zionists surrounding Trump ? Hegseth with the Crusader tattoo Deus Volt and the Jerusalem Cross, JD Vance who wore the Ash Wednesday mark on his forehead for the day, Tom Cotton and a few others less central …hoping for the Jews all back in Israel then End of Days and return of Jesus. Ffs !

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Slightly Lucid's avatar

I have a long memory. These very same eschatological Christian nationalist zionists were at regular prayer meetings with Shrub Bush.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

Or so they posture. If Jesus really cam back--the Jesus quoted in the New Testament--how ould He few these vicious, selfish monsters?

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MakeTheWorldSafeForDiversity's avatar

The democratic party's attorney general in michigan issued the warrants for the raid on students in Michigan. The duopoly doesn't want any criticism by americans of the genocide in Gaza.

Donate to the students' fund:

bit.ly/umlegalfund

According to people raising funds for students harmed by the raid at the University of Michigan: "While we continue to navigate the ongoing charges against the Encampent 11 and Festifall 4, on Wednesday, April 23, 2025 between 6:00 AM and 9:00 AM, FBI agents, Michigan state police, and local police officers in unmarked vehicles unconducted coordinated raids at the homes of University of Michigan pro-Palestine activists across Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, and Canton.

None of the warrants presented by law enforcement listed probable cause. At the Ypsi location, officers refused to provide a serach warrant and forced entry into the residence, breaking their front door. FBI and local police violently raided all three locations and seized personal belonging of targeted residents during final examinations. 8 individuals were detained during the raid and released. Like the Encampent 11, the warrants were all issued by Attorney General Dana Nessel."

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Feral Finster's avatar

Yup, vote Team D for a nicer, gender inclusive genocide!

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Patricia Blair's avatar

I sure as heck object to any attempts of manipulation by anyone. Trump is the lowest level of a human being as are his buyers and dummies that elected him. Protesting to my last breath!

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denise ward's avatar

If you think it's Trump alone then you're deluded. Get real - this has been happening a long time. They have some kind of vandetta against humanity. It's not just Trump, he's just one of the cast.

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Marten's avatar

Agree big time, serial Genocide are detailed in the Old Testament !!!

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Patricia

The hideous old ZioHag Adelson needs to be Luigi’d.

Anyone have her address?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Problematically, gyp dear, there are two Zionist sons ready to inherit that 40 billion and do the equivalent bloody damage to the world as did mama and daddy Adelson.

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gypsy33's avatar

No worries, Vin, I’ve got an extended clip😉

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SW's avatar

Most Americans don’t watch the news and, even if they did, it’s not much more than a glorified weather report. If Gaza is mentioned at all, the language is never “Israel bombed tents and burned people alive” — it’s “in the latest round of fighting, Palestinians were killed when Israel eliminated two top Hamas officials.” If the civilians had not been near the (supposed) Hamas officials, they’d be alive today is the implication of course.

I remember a high school teacher saying less than 1% control what happens, 4% watch what happens and 95% wonder what happened.

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B. King's avatar

Those of us living outside of the jew.S.A. just watch and shake our heads at the HUGE herd of sheeple who are so easily led. We also pray for peace 🙏

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Mark Taylor's avatar

Zionism is not Judaism. Many of the leading critics of the Israeli Zionist state are Jews. Equating Judaism with Zionism plays into the bloody paws of the fascists.

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Mark Taylor's avatar

Oh, okay, well at least you are open about your soulless idiocy and the fraud of any faux prayer for peace.

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Laith 🔻🇵🇸's avatar

Maybe I’ve lost the ability to read properly — but I haven’t come across the phrase “Jewish lobby” anywhere. Honestly, I’ve been saying for years: if we want to fix the problem of Western imperialism and support for Israel, we need to expose the root cause — the real power behind it, which is the Jewish lobbies.

The Jewish lobby is incredibly powerful and controls almost every corner of Western politics. Sure, Qataris, Emiratis, and Saudis might sometimes pay more than AIPAC and other Jewish lobbies, but they don’t have the tapes, and they certainly don’t control the main centers of power — politics, media, or cinema — in the West.

This isn’t just about buying imperialists with money; the situation is far more complex than that.

Take just one person, like the Adelsons you mentioned in your article. She donated $100 million to one electoral campaign. One person from this entire network did that. So imagine the influence when you factor in all the Jewish billionaires, lobbies, organizations, and networks. What kind of power are we talking about when this is just one example?

As you say, this isn’t some conspiracy. Many people are talking about it. But so little dare to write about it openly. What we need to do is expose these criminal lobbies that are destroying our humanity.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

The Jewish lobby is an important factor, but it would be more accurate to call it the Zionist lobby, as plenty of Jews are opposed to it, and most of the Zionists in the US are not Jewish. And the MIC is an important factor as well--they are always in favor of any war, proxy or direct, and also have huge power.

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Laith 🔻🇵🇸's avatar

It’s Jewish! When will you finally understand that you cannot teach or lecture Palestinians who have been under Jewish occupation for 80 years?

When will you stop being supremacist and stop forcing us to see things through your eyes?

I will call them Zionists when there are Arabs, Christians, and other groups who support Israel.

But AIPAC — like all the other Jewish lobbies — from the smallest figure to the biggest, are Jews.

Also, seriously, have some shame when you lie about “many.” What do you even mean by “many”?

Should I share with you dozens of testimonies from Jews who admitted to me that they were thrown out of their families — families that contain hundreds of people — just because they opposed Israel?

A religion is defined by the behavior of its majority, not by empty slogans you’re trying to brainwash people with.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Laith:

WHAT YOU SAID.

As I’ve pointed out before, it ain’t Quakers committing genocide.

60% of IsraHellis don’t believe the IGF is doing ENOUGH.

And according to a Pew poll, nearly three-quarters of Amerikkkan Jews support IsraHell’s actions.

IsraHell is manufacturing Jew-hate and it has only itself to blame.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Cancel the so called State of Israel !

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

Despite your unnecessarily hostile language, you are in fact wrong. People do sometimes say "Jewish lobby";

more importantly as Caitlin says there are more Christian Zionists in the US than Jews in the world, so there are not only SOME Christians who support Israel, there are millions;. I'm not sure this phenomenon exists outside the US. I didn't use the word "many" so I'm not sure what you're driving at there, As for the claim that Jews in Israel are racists who support genocide, that is an undeniable fact borne out by polls. I think one reason it's gotten so extreme is that this has been going on a long time, since the beginning really--so young Israelis who can see through the brainwashing get the hell out of Israel, leaving the racists behind. And it isn't about religion really--quite a lot of Jews are atheists--it's about tribal identity, about race, about Us versus Them. The ideology of the Zionists is essentially identical to Nazi ideology, which didn't really identify with a religion but with a race--the white, blond & blue-eyed Nordic "master race." Israelis say "god gave us this territory thousands of years ago" and call themselves the Chosen People; they call the Palestinians "human animals" and "vermin" as the Nazis called the Jews "untermenschen"; the Nazis said they needed lebensraum and took to conquering the surrounding countries--Israelis are now talking about Greater Israel and want to follow up the ethnic cleansing (Final Solution) of Gaza and the West Bank with snatching parts of all the surrounding countries--but of course they need the US to supply all the weaponry and likely soldiers as well, and the reason the repression has gotten so intense is that the resistance is gearing up.

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Laith 🔻🇵🇸's avatar

You are exactly like the Zionists — you cite numbers and use words like ‘many’ and ‘few’ without context. This is exactly what the Jews do when they say: ‘We are a Jewish minority and there are millions of Arabs, so we have the right to take Palestine,’ as if the number — whether small or large — grants them a right to our land. You are doing exactly the same thing: using ‘many’ and ‘few’ while refusing to hold Judaism and the Jews accountable, even though they are the ones who committed all the massacres in Palestine.

And even if the West itself is the one moving them, this does not absolve them of responsibility; for whoever commits a crime — whether on their own or under someone else’s incitement — remains a criminal.

Stop bringing up the Holocaust in every conversation you start! STOP! You have no limits or shame. It is these stories that allow the barbaric European jews to commit all these atrocities in Palestine with no punishment.

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Hannah Schramm's avatar

So AIPAC is Christian? Or Atheist? Nothing to do with Jews? You write a lot of other things instead of replying to Laith simply stated facts. I don't think you have to lecture a Palestinian about Zionist ideology while suggesting he is "hostile", while facing the extermination of his people by the group you are trying to whitewash here

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martin's avatar

the problem is americans giving in to the lobby-system, imo. (the fault is mostly with american and western capitalist elites in general). it got plenty of exposure here. killing the one lobby will not stop the imperial onslaught. musk spent roughly $277 million on trump's campaign. what he and adelson have in common is not their religion, they're just filthy rich.

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