This man is allegedly the 'leader of the Free world,' so Shameful!
Not to mention he spoke moments after President Putin's interview, one where he showed himself to be rational, temperate & humorous; light years ahead of Joe, whose faculties are not even 'there' anymore. The United States of America is basically a complete goner at this point!
I knew President Putin is a brilliant man but that interview more than confirmed it. That actually might be the most important interview in recent history. It was a pleasure to be spoken to like an adult. Not a big fan of Tucker Carlson but... Bravo!
Same...I think he did a fine job here....and at the end that very somber replay by Tucker.. Got to me. Like Tucker had a moment to realise his own country are actually the baddies
That walk in the Rose Garden, with Nancy whispering answers to the entire questioning by a reporter was stunning. I swear it was included in a Micheal Moore film. I should have stored it. I spent 1/2 hr. searching, and nothing.
Seems many of those moments have been scrubbed from history. I found one but it's not the best. The walk in the Rose Garden is frightening knowing he was constantly trying to go to war. The famous Sat. morning "Ladies and Gentleman we just bombed the Soviet Union"
From then on every time the monthly warning went off we checked the time and now we are doing the same.
The contrast was stunning. Putin dominated an agile interlocutor in Tucker Carlson. Imagine Biden sitting down to two-plus hours with Carlson. It would be two hours of macho posturing, soundbites and staccato gibberish.
News flash, Pissy. Amerikkka IS a failed state. Record credit card debt; a majority of Amerikkkans can’t cough up $400 for an emergency; rampant homelessness; people dying for lack of medical accessibility; crumbling infrastructure; nonstop inflation; a “leader” who steals our tax dollars to fund one losing war and a genocide.
But yeah, we’re just fucking THRIVING here, aren’t we?
NONE OF OUR BUSINESS, the only thing that should concern us is: be a 'good neighbor' (no threats, but negotiations - WE FUCKED UP: after the fall of the USSR our leaders were too greedy and of course NATO did not want to loose their cushy jobs, so any talk about taking Russia into the 'world family' was DEAD on ARRIVAL!) Furthermore I think Mr Putin's approval rating is far over any other 'rules based international order' leader ...
Supposing all of that is True, the fact is that the 'Strong Horse' at present to the Global South is President Putin. So in that sense, even if all that immorality is True, what he showed last night was that on the competence front, he is Light years ahead of American 'leadership' (if we can call it that).
World leaders are Violent, that's part of their job description. Those who are incapable of Violence are those who are either *impotent (due to being puppets to other regimes) or incompetent (i.e. not knowing their job description):
I am not saying Putin is a 'Moral Leader,' I am saying he is an *effective* leader. & this will make people Flock to him en masse from now onward.
Thsts not even a remotly accurate description of the man.. Thats all propaganda and mythology generated by the west...
Its the product of an uncritical mind.
Hollywood (CIA has whole departments dedicated to warping percaptions) has created all this through drama depictions of the sacrosanct West always fighting some made up existential threat of "evil" Russia hiding under western beds poised to steal the patriotic lint..
Its all made up...its obvious to listen to the guy talk.. He's nothing like the lies the neocons tell and you consume second hand ...why would you want to falksy accuse a man? What motivation do you have to be that dishonest, even to yourself?
Yeah, you got that right about Hollywood. I’ve seen enough “Law & Order”and “FBI”to get an overdose on Russophobia for a lifetime. It’s sickening! And now those shows are doing the same shit with Israel/Hamas. You know the score, Israel good, just defending itself & Hamas bad, 40 beheaded babies. It’s really despicable. I told my Dad I don’t want to watch it anymore. Rather read an ebook or read up on who I follow.
You can watch the interview on YouTube .never watch main stream media.
When you do watch the full interview. Pay attention to Putin body language his demener and words and drop your bias for that time and make a rational logical decision about his character as a human being one to one.
I haven't used MSM either for several years. So many other forms of opinion-sharing available in the internet-connected world, as well as, you know, just chewing things over with the people you respect because they are willing to take an honest look at the world and assess the evidence independently.
Funny how ironic it is you demanding people back up their assertions when you go around false accusing people with your made up accusations about them to halve the comentators on these threads.. Your glaring hypocracy you fail to see is astounding.
Lol..I'm not against Putin you complete mental slug...keep asking the other guy and follow along like you have a fucking brain without your own dumb fucking bias built in that motivates your complete lack of missing accusatory targets
United western controlled nations....it's all propaganda designed for you to diseminate.. You don't get it..the western establishment and all its institutions are lying to you.
And I realize you type of personality has no ability to see through their lines so you accept everything as second hand . use your own intuition not your emotional investment into the fear porn they prsented you. To feed those fears..Putin and Russia are not the target and enemy you should be watching out for.
It's not. It's russian_bot (or is it trump_bot?) being blinded by confirmation bias - it doesn't allow him to be objective. It's no use arguing/discussing with him. (And be forwarned: russian_bot enjoys attacking people instead of their arguments).
The question is ... who gave the go-ahead to the press corp to start asking questions about Biden's "age," "memory," "gaffes," etc.?
Don't insult our intelligence. Every journalist in Washington D.C. has known this for four years ... why are they suddenly asking questions about this now?
And they won't stop since his painful answers just proved the charges.
So ... put a stake in the presidency of "Joe Biden." Caitlin is right. It doesn't matter who holds the office, but it's not going to be Biden. I'm sure the front man or woman to replace him has already been selected for us.
The big question is will the public blame the "watchdog" press for covering up the fact the "leader of the free world" has no brain.
Makes us feel good? Something to get fired up about? Good question. More people are getting it's all a sham.
This is tough to swallow for some people. When I say that ... I'm saying Anthony Fauci was lying through his teeth. The press ... The Department of Justice ... The judges ... The health care agencies ... even nice, sweet Big Pharma ... They are all captured and evil and spreading bogus narratives for their own benefit.
Cornell is at least a humanist although he's had some stuff wrong too.. They all still blame Putin ...Jill was detained trying to attend the political conventions ... The system won't allow it ...you can't vote your way out of a profoundly sick system
The only reason voting is encouraged is so people sign and date the voter registration (legal documents) that the public citizen under contract agrees to abide by the dictates of the next installed puppet.
Voting has not been working anywhere for a long time. Democracies are not really democracies any more. We need a new system. I wonder what kind of dementia Biden has. I have two friends who have had Alzheimer's for a few years now and they are not even as coherent as Biden. If he has Alzheimer's, it is inhumane to keep him in the spotlight. Dementia patients eventually do not do what they are told at all.
Susan there are many forms of dementia, even people who have diseases like Parkinson's can develop dementia. I never thought he was calling the shots but his administration has implemented a neocon agenda, like his proxy war in Ukraine. Blinken is a neocon and Nuland married to the biggest neocon of all, Kagan is in the Biden administration too, and she's a big Russia hater. Remember her on the phone during the coup in Ukraine talking on the phone about who the next president of Ukraine should be?
Yeah, this really does remind me of my dad’s Parkenson’s dementia. As his drugs cycle he has lucidity for a predictable time- you can perceive when the meds are wearing out in time to get him home again. Over time, the drugs work less well.
My husband is 81 this year and yes his short term memory is not good but he is remarkable at remembering dates in the past. So I look at Biden through my eyes (as well as the pressure he is under) and know this is NOT just ageing.
Correct me if I’m wrong here folks… but I believe that in the Nevada primary, the so-called main stream candidates got smoked by those running as independents.
“At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst.” Aristotle
-“The biggest danger to the security of a nation’s citizens in the modern age is NOT a military invasion by an army of foreign soldiers. It’s an infiltration of their government by an army of foreign and domestic billionaires sending handpicked soulless bureaucrats to get control of key offices in their nation’s capital. And when they’re done infiltrating and getting control of a country’s government, they move to take over the military and the major news media outlets as well.” Brian Cates
"they" always had control in the U.S. they wrote the "sacred" Constitution to benefit themselves and maintain that control. all else has been a smokescreen all along.
Well, that's all correct except the tense. So they don't "move take over the military etc ... that'd done deal. But Please don't ask any major news outlet for çomformation ....
“Voting in western “democracies” is done to give us the illusion of control, like letting a toddler play with a toy steering wheel while you drive so they can feel like they’re participating.” 🤣😂😆
Indeed , and it was already clear when a repeat offending plagiarist and the cheerleader for the worst foreign policy decision in American history - Iraq - got picked by the DNC. In effect they were saying it doesn’t matter who is in as long as they what they’re told. We call the shots. Dementia? Not a problem. Yes saying Mitterrand and Kohl are alive is problematic. And we have to stop him from saying he plans to bomb Assyria.
If there was ever a clear cut example of invoking the 25th due to "incapacitation" then this would be it. The problem is that you then get President Kamala 🤣😂
You need to give Tucker some credit for pulling off the moment ....and Putin put him in his place fast..but I think he did a fine job...let Putin talk.
Biden should have, imho, should have been excommunicated when he (and Pelosi)voted for the Iraq war. The Pope at that time said it was an Unjust war, and even offered asylum to Hussein hoping to avoid it.
Anyone who masqurades as a Christian to get votes should be prosecuted for fraud.
In his run for president these issues also came up, and during Covid he wasn't that visible. As an American this doesn't surprise me. His speech about getting food and supplies into Gaza to help those suffering people while we fund the genocide that is killing them, well, maybe it's better to be senile when you're an American president. Interesting that during the 21st century Bush/Cheney, Obama, and Biden carried out our middle eastern wars that were put forth before we even went into Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks which tells you those decisions do not reside with the president, although someone like Cheney is another story, since he signed on to these wars a few years before we had our New Pearl Harbor, on 9/11
There used to be a piece of graffiti scrawled across a motorway bridge just south of Manchester. It read:" If voting could change any it would be against the law".
Or as Billy Connolly memorably remarked, "Don't vote, it only encourages them".
"....... Voting in western “democracies” is done to give us the illusion of control, like letting a toddler play with a toy steering wheel while you drive so they can feel like they’re participating...."
What an exact analogy.Capitalism never ever allows or has allowed real democracy. In England to avet a revolution they instituted the House of the Commoners under the real friends of the rulers the House of Lords Finally in 1911 they were forced to abandon the power of their House to overturn vital legislation issuing from the Commoners . In the USA they did have period of post war instability where a POTUS John F Kennedy started issuing real threats to the Real system by the legislation he was proposing- So they assassinate him. Since then the American Empire has only known fake democracy .
It's way past time for Americans to catch up with the obvious truth that voting doesn't change a fucking thing that really needs changing. I've been saying it for 40 years. Emma Goldman understood it deeply over a hundred years ago, as has nearly everyone on the authentic left, which doesn't mean "liberals", who are only liberal on policies that are of no consequence to the powers controlling everything.
Voting for either Biden or Trump is like choosing between Cheerios and corn flakes, insisting one is better than the other.
This man is allegedly the 'leader of the Free world,' so Shameful!
Not to mention he spoke moments after President Putin's interview, one where he showed himself to be rational, temperate & humorous; light years ahead of Joe, whose faculties are not even 'there' anymore. The United States of America is basically a complete goner at this point!
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I knew President Putin is a brilliant man but that interview more than confirmed it. That actually might be the most important interview in recent history. It was a pleasure to be spoken to like an adult. Not a big fan of Tucker Carlson but... Bravo!
Same...I think he did a fine job here....and at the end that very somber replay by Tucker.. Got to me. Like Tucker had a moment to realise his own country are actually the baddies
Dang, Landru, I need to watch that!
That walk in the Rose Garden, with Nancy whispering answers to the entire questioning by a reporter was stunning. I swear it was included in a Micheal Moore film. I should have stored it. I spent 1/2 hr. searching, and nothing.
Seems many of those moments have been scrubbed from history. I found one but it's not the best. The walk in the Rose Garden is frightening knowing he was constantly trying to go to war. The famous Sat. morning "Ladies and Gentleman we just bombed the Soviet Union"
From then on every time the monthly warning went off we checked the time and now we are doing the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JTtI3D6lqk
Biden is the perfect poster boy for present day demented America
The contrast was stunning. Putin dominated an agile interlocutor in Tucker Carlson. Imagine Biden sitting down to two-plus hours with Carlson. It would be two hours of macho posturing, soundbites and staccato gibberish.
IF the US fails?
News flash, Pissy. Amerikkka IS a failed state. Record credit card debt; a majority of Amerikkkans can’t cough up $400 for an emergency; rampant homelessness; people dying for lack of medical accessibility; crumbling infrastructure; nonstop inflation; a “leader” who steals our tax dollars to fund one losing war and a genocide.
But yeah, we’re just fucking THRIVING here, aren’t we?
NONE OF OUR BUSINESS, the only thing that should concern us is: be a 'good neighbor' (no threats, but negotiations - WE FUCKED UP: after the fall of the USSR our leaders were too greedy and of course NATO did not want to loose their cushy jobs, so any talk about taking Russia into the 'world family' was DEAD on ARRIVAL!) Furthermore I think Mr Putin's approval rating is far over any other 'rules based international order' leader ...
For good reason, Elisabeth; Mr. Putin is a true statesman. With each of his speeches I listen to, I think, Why can’t Amerikkkans elect such a leader?
Supposing all of that is True, the fact is that the 'Strong Horse' at present to the Global South is President Putin. So in that sense, even if all that immorality is True, what he showed last night was that on the competence front, he is Light years ahead of American 'leadership' (if we can call it that).
Correct.
World leaders are Violent, that's part of their job description. Those who are incapable of Violence are those who are either *impotent (due to being puppets to other regimes) or incompetent (i.e. not knowing their job description):
I am not saying Putin is a 'Moral Leader,' I am saying he is an *effective* leader. & this will make people Flock to him en masse from now onward.
Rightfully so, Gregor.
You mean like our own Brutal Capitalist Dictators. I don't.
Thsts not even a remotly accurate description of the man.. Thats all propaganda and mythology generated by the west...
Its the product of an uncritical mind.
Hollywood (CIA has whole departments dedicated to warping percaptions) has created all this through drama depictions of the sacrosanct West always fighting some made up existential threat of "evil" Russia hiding under western beds poised to steal the patriotic lint..
Its all made up...its obvious to listen to the guy talk.. He's nothing like the lies the neocons tell and you consume second hand ...why would you want to falksy accuse a man? What motivation do you have to be that dishonest, even to yourself?
Yeah, you got that right about Hollywood. I’ve seen enough “Law & Order”and “FBI”to get an overdose on Russophobia for a lifetime. It’s sickening! And now those shows are doing the same shit with Israel/Hamas. You know the score, Israel good, just defending itself & Hamas bad, 40 beheaded babies. It’s really despicable. I told my Dad I don’t want to watch it anymore. Rather read an ebook or read up on who I follow.
You can watch the interview on YouTube .never watch main stream media.
When you do watch the full interview. Pay attention to Putin body language his demener and words and drop your bias for that time and make a rational logical decision about his character as a human being one to one.
Tucker was once a neocon psycho and he did.
I haven't used MSM either for several years. So many other forms of opinion-sharing available in the internet-connected world, as well as, you know, just chewing things over with the people you respect because they are willing to take an honest look at the world and assess the evidence independently.
Funny how ironic it is you demanding people back up their assertions when you go around false accusing people with your made up accusations about them to halve the comentators on these threads.. Your glaring hypocracy you fail to see is astounding.
Lol..I'm not against Putin you complete mental slug...keep asking the other guy and follow along like you have a fucking brain without your own dumb fucking bias built in that motivates your complete lack of missing accusatory targets
United western controlled nations....it's all propaganda designed for you to diseminate.. You don't get it..the western establishment and all its institutions are lying to you.
And I realize you type of personality has no ability to see through their lines so you accept everything as second hand . use your own intuition not your emotional investment into the fear porn they prsented you. To feed those fears..Putin and Russia are not the target and enemy you should be watching out for.
Take a look at your own leaders for that.
It's not. It's russian_bot (or is it trump_bot?) being blinded by confirmation bias - it doesn't allow him to be objective. It's no use arguing/discussing with him. (And be forwarned: russian_bot enjoys attacking people instead of their arguments).
The question is ... who gave the go-ahead to the press corp to start asking questions about Biden's "age," "memory," "gaffes," etc.?
Don't insult our intelligence. Every journalist in Washington D.C. has known this for four years ... why are they suddenly asking questions about this now?
And they won't stop since his painful answers just proved the charges.
So ... put a stake in the presidency of "Joe Biden." Caitlin is right. It doesn't matter who holds the office, but it's not going to be Biden. I'm sure the front man or woman to replace him has already been selected for us.
The big question is will the public blame the "watchdog" press for covering up the fact the "leader of the free world" has no brain.
Biden was always a scum bag. His prison complex mentality was far before his dementia ..not to mention hair sniffng on Lolita island
I've read in places their saying Obama's wife, but then what do they do about Kamala?
Makes us feel good? Something to get fired up about? Good question. More people are getting it's all a sham.
This is tough to swallow for some people. When I say that ... I'm saying Anthony Fauci was lying through his teeth. The press ... The Department of Justice ... The judges ... The health care agencies ... even nice, sweet Big Pharma ... They are all captured and evil and spreading bogus narratives for their own benefit.
They aren't worried about Kamala.
So I guess Biden isn't going to debate Trump, huh? Or neither of them want to debate RFK, Jr. ... who might end up winning.
Rfk is a full on Zionist..no one needs that in office
Why can’t we all get behind either Jill Stein or Cornell West?
Wish they would run on the same ticket though…
Cornell is at least a humanist although he's had some stuff wrong too.. They all still blame Putin ...Jill was detained trying to attend the political conventions ... The system won't allow it ...you can't vote your way out of a profoundly sick system
Agree, Chaz; revolutionary is the only possible answer.
Not all of us do.
The only reason voting is encouraged is so people sign and date the voter registration (legal documents) that the public citizen under contract agrees to abide by the dictates of the next installed puppet.
Good question? I am mystified.
Voting has not been working anywhere for a long time. Democracies are not really democracies any more. We need a new system. I wonder what kind of dementia Biden has. I have two friends who have had Alzheimer's for a few years now and they are not even as coherent as Biden. If he has Alzheimer's, it is inhumane to keep him in the spotlight. Dementia patients eventually do not do what they are told at all.
Susan there are many forms of dementia, even people who have diseases like Parkinson's can develop dementia. I never thought he was calling the shots but his administration has implemented a neocon agenda, like his proxy war in Ukraine. Blinken is a neocon and Nuland married to the biggest neocon of all, Kagan is in the Biden administration too, and she's a big Russia hater. Remember her on the phone during the coup in Ukraine talking on the phone about who the next president of Ukraine should be?
Yeah, this really does remind me of my dad’s Parkenson’s dementia. As his drugs cycle he has lucidity for a predictable time- you can perceive when the meds are wearing out in time to get him home again. Over time, the drugs work less well.
What's hard, talking to your Mother and you realize she doesn't know who you are. That is where Genocide Joe is now.
My husband is 81 this year and yes his short term memory is not good but he is remarkable at remembering dates in the past. So I look at Biden through my eyes (as well as the pressure he is under) and know this is NOT just ageing.
Democracies are just blame diffusing schemes.
Ha...I like that...so true too.
Feel free to use it.
Thank you I shall!
If they don't replace him and he does run ... he'll win. Don't know how ... but we know he will.
I wouldn't count on it.
I'd bet on it (if he runs and is not replaced). It's the Law of Opposite Effects. That which shouldn't happen ... will definitely happen.
Correct me if I’m wrong here folks… but I believe that in the Nevada primary, the so-called main stream candidates got smoked by those running as independents.
That’s a very, very good sign.
“At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst.” Aristotle
-“The biggest danger to the security of a nation’s citizens in the modern age is NOT a military invasion by an army of foreign soldiers. It’s an infiltration of their government by an army of foreign and domestic billionaires sending handpicked soulless bureaucrats to get control of key offices in their nation’s capital. And when they’re done infiltrating and getting control of a country’s government, they move to take over the military and the major news media outlets as well.” Brian Cates
Humans are not the noblest of all the animals. Just ask a cat.
Feral, hoomans don’t even come close 😁
I just asked....she said "how dare you" meow
"they" always had control in the U.S. they wrote the "sacred" Constitution to benefit themselves and maintain that control. all else has been a smokescreen all along.
As soon as the regular rable start using the constitution for themselves the elite get mad and start a war
Well, that's all correct except the tense. So they don't "move take over the military etc ... that'd done deal. But Please don't ask any major news outlet for çomformation ....
“Voting in western “democracies” is done to give us the illusion of control, like letting a toddler play with a toy steering wheel while you drive so they can feel like they’re participating.” 🤣😂😆
Indeed , and it was already clear when a repeat offending plagiarist and the cheerleader for the worst foreign policy decision in American history - Iraq - got picked by the DNC. In effect they were saying it doesn’t matter who is in as long as they what they’re told. We call the shots. Dementia? Not a problem. Yes saying Mitterrand and Kohl are alive is problematic. And we have to stop him from saying he plans to bomb Assyria.
If there was ever a clear cut example of invoking the 25th due to "incapacitation" then this would be it. The problem is that you then get President Kamala 🤣😂
This is precisely why Vice President Harris is described as a "insurance policy".
Have a look at Tucker Carlson interviewing President Putin to see what a leader looks and sounds like ... https://tuckercarlson.com/
Lots of Putin the bogeyman syndrom sufferers can't bring themselves to admit he's not "evil" incarnate as they have been taught by Hollywood (cia)
You need to give Tucker some credit for pulling off the moment ....and Putin put him in his place fast..but I think he did a fine job...let Putin talk.
Biden should have, imho, should have been excommunicated when he (and Pelosi)voted for the Iraq war. The Pope at that time said it was an Unjust war, and even offered asylum to Hussein hoping to avoid it.
Anyone who masqurades as a Christian to get votes should be prosecuted for fraud.
His Rosary beads tell me he's a fraud.
If not then, he should do it now, along with going to Gaza. At the risk of repeating myself,
Pope Francis must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
Please sign the petition and share widely.
https://chng.it/CRQ7qw4Gzn
These are a few small things we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.
In his run for president these issues also came up, and during Covid he wasn't that visible. As an American this doesn't surprise me. His speech about getting food and supplies into Gaza to help those suffering people while we fund the genocide that is killing them, well, maybe it's better to be senile when you're an American president. Interesting that during the 21st century Bush/Cheney, Obama, and Biden carried out our middle eastern wars that were put forth before we even went into Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks which tells you those decisions do not reside with the president, although someone like Cheney is another story, since he signed on to these wars a few years before we had our New Pearl Harbor, on 9/11
I would prefer a jar of kalamata olives over Biden.
A jar of Kalamata olives would probably authorize fewer war crimes.
At the sermon on the Mount of Olives there was a Kalamata jar.
There used to be a piece of graffiti scrawled across a motorway bridge just south of Manchester. It read:" If voting could change any it would be against the law".
Or as Billy Connolly memorably remarked, "Don't vote, it only encourages them".
@Tony Erizia
Re: "If voting..." graffiti?
That is more or less a George Carlin quote from his stage material, not sure if he originated it?
"“If voting changed anything, it would be illegal.”
-George Carlin
He went into more detailed analysis of WHY the USA has the government we have here:
https://www.icomedytv.com/content/george-carlin-on-voting-transcript
Thank you for further enlightening me as to the sayings origins.
It was Emma Goldman who said that, way back when.
Biden....the only vegetable that's not good for you. There's your campaign slogan you slimy vile creature.
"....... Voting in western “democracies” is done to give us the illusion of control, like letting a toddler play with a toy steering wheel while you drive so they can feel like they’re participating...."
What an exact analogy.Capitalism never ever allows or has allowed real democracy. In England to avet a revolution they instituted the House of the Commoners under the real friends of the rulers the House of Lords Finally in 1911 they were forced to abandon the power of their House to overturn vital legislation issuing from the Commoners . In the USA they did have period of post war instability where a POTUS John F Kennedy started issuing real threats to the Real system by the legislation he was proposing- So they assassinate him. Since then the American Empire has only known fake democracy .
Spot on. Camolot was destroyed from,the inside jo
there no way out of this mess that involved voting for the established duopoly
It's way past time for Americans to catch up with the obvious truth that voting doesn't change a fucking thing that really needs changing. I've been saying it for 40 years. Emma Goldman understood it deeply over a hundred years ago, as has nearly everyone on the authentic left, which doesn't mean "liberals", who are only liberal on policies that are of no consequence to the powers controlling everything.
Voting for either Biden or Trump is like choosing between Cheerios and corn flakes, insisting one is better than the other.
The Perot campaign successfully shifted the focus of the Clinton presidency to deficit reduction.