Sarah Hurwitz condemns herself AND the state of Israel with her own words. If you cannot be against the LITERAL genocide of an entire population then I'm sorry, YOU are the monster. I do not care if your ancestors were genocided themselves, in fact I would condemn you EVEN HARDER because you, of ALL PEOPLE, should know better. To expect people to simply give a nation committing genocide a pass simply because your "tribe" experienced their own genocide is simply absurd.
Committing genocide is WRONG WRONG WRONG, period, end of story. And it's FAR worse when being committed by the victims of genocide themselves.
I worry that people will forget what has happened in Gaza. 'Impossible', you say.
But people forget that Zionists were co-perpetrators of the Holocaust and Israel protected those co-perpetrators with the full force of it's 'justice system'.
Zionists were FOR the Holocaust before they were against it. Or, rather, before they discovered how they could put Holocaust remembrance into service for Israel.
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Let me guess. You DID forget and now have no idea what I am talking about above.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they were perpetrators, but I will say they, such as Ben-Gurion and his cabal - yeah, the same Ben-Gurion after whom the airport in Israel is named, kinda like Dulles in this country - did cut deals with the Nazis to allow the better off, more desirable Jews escape to Palestine, leaving the hoi polloi to their fate. And Norman Finkelstein spelled it all out in his "The Holocaust Industry."
Thanks, but you left out so, so much. REAL REAL briefly, Zionists knowingly tricked hundreds of thousands of those that had put their trust in them onto the trains to Auschwitz. Later, in Israel, the leader was exonerated by the Supreme Court of Israel (3 to 2 vote by the judges) as the 'Jews of Hungary were not worth saving'.
You are very right! And Israel and Zionist Americans are sending bars of propaganda into our mailboxes under the names of things like Fellowship of Christian and Jews and Friends of Zion filled with pages and pages of expected, lies and fake surveys of support for Israel. Women, old women’s Holocaust survivors were told are shown as suffering from having their houses bombed out in Israel. This is how they make the case to the American people that Palestinians areterrorists when we all know that the only terrorists right now in the Middle East are Israelis.
Maybe if those settlers weren't constantly stealing land and property away from Palestinians then their houses wouldn't be bombed. It's a foreign concept to these people, I know. The statute of limitations on their perpetual victimhood has LONG since passed.
"But that’s a category error,” says Hurwitz. “The seven million people in Israel, they are not my co-religionists, they are my siblings. But I think if you think of them as merely your co-religionists, it’s easy to slide into anti-Zionism. You don’t necessarily have that connection to them.”
Hurwitz is saying here that Jews around the world should be loyal to Israel no matter what Israel does, not because that’s the moral or truthful position but because Israel is where their loyalties belong."
Now, glib rhetoric aside, how exactly is that any different from Nazism and why the hell am I obligated to love Israel?
So she's saying screw morality, all that matters is that my tribe wins. This is exactly the sort of mentality that one would expect a Darwin/Wallace survival of the fittest situation might produce. Rivals should be either enslaved or killed. And this is exactly what the European immigrants to the New World did. And now they are doing it again. In the USA it's just considered impolite to say it out loud.
".. .giving young people the wrong impression that genocide is always bad." I read up to this point, by then with my jaw slacked at the idiocy if what I was reading...and then I got to "genocide isn't ALWAYS wrong" .... and then I stopped because I became ill.
Except that it's not just Sara Hurwitz that's psychotic... it's an entire Israeli society that's been indoctrinated from a very young age to be and believe in that psychopathy as a legitimate desirable way of being. Which is exactly why Israel must end. It's not an anomaly... it's their core belief system. It's putrid, vile and has absolutely no place in the modern world. And they have no inclination or desire to be any different or change. We certainly should not be sending ANY monetary aid, weapons, or support to the perpetual supremacist terrorist state of Israel.
It's ironic that these hateful racist regimes so often project onto "the other" exactly what they themselves are guilty of.
The world hates Israel for what it’s doing and what it’s done. And Israel’s response is not to change what it’s doing but instead to just blame the world. When do we get to talk about how psychotic and disordered Jewish Supremacists’ minds are? They just don’t function normally and there is no getting around that.
"Hurwitz isn’t denying Israel’s abuses or framing its genocidal atrocities as the problem, she’s just coming right out and saying that people obtaining information and moral clarity about those abuses is the problem. The atrocities aren’t wrong, what’s wrong is people seeing those atrocities and calling them what they are."
Hello, this is an Obama speechwriter here. These are democrats and liberals.
Glib rationalization of atrocities is just what they do.
I was involved in the peace movement decades ago. I got tired of the "same old same old": the very same terrorist act ok if a dem in charge, bad if a rePUKE in charge. I surmised that as being nuts...and I slinked away...
Hey, when it comes to US foreign policy on any country, including Israel, don't think the Democratic Party is any better than the Republican Party. Both are devout war mongers and both are devout Zionists - and have been from the get-go.
Hmm, I've never looked up the definition of glib. I get
"fluent and voluble but insincere and shallow."
I dunno, I believe in her sincerity. She really believes that stuff. Otherwise it would be too embarrassing to articulate. Only a deeply self-deluded person could say such things in public.
If I wanted to fake it I'd pretend that all the carnage videos were produced by evil Palestinian AI. People who want to believe that would believe it. Then I'd have my hyperrich buddies buy up all the conduits for those vids and shove them into a memory hole. Wait, didn't that already happen? We'll see how well that works.
"Nietzsche observed that individual insanity is rare, but mass madness is the historical norm. Throughout time, entire nations have embraced irrational beliefs simply because everyone else did too." ~The Daily Stoic
And the power of dominant groups to broadcast their arguments while others dare not reply is generally the origin of those irrational beliefs and their widespread embrace.
It is telling that she never once says 'Maybe we should stop the genocide and then work on restoring Israel's image'. The brain worm is so deeply embedded in her brain that the reason the majority of the world's population now dislikes Israeli's with a passion is lost to her.
Personally, I feel sorry for the Palestinian's and am happy the Jews didn't set up their colony in my country 75 years ago. Or I would be a terrorist today fighting my occupiers!
It wasn't that they even set up their colony 75 years ago. Jews and Palestinians lived together in the British Protectorate known as Palestine until the world decided that the Jews got to create their own country in the same space occupied by Palestine, and Palestine would cease to exist. That's like having the cops show up at your house and forcibly evict you at gunpoint.
Jews, Muslims and Christians coexisted peacefully for more than a thousand years before the British arrived to colonize Palestine to capture its oil fields.
CJ>>"I don’t know about you, but if my siblings were murdering civilians I would immediately become their enemy. I wouldn’t defend my brother if he was going around shooting children in the head like IDF snipers have been doing in Gaza, in fact I would feel a special responsibility to stop him exactly because he is my brother. Genocide doesn’t magically become acceptable if the perpetrators are your “siblings”, unless you are a sociopath."
Well said Caitlin! ❤️🙏 Precisely! Israel is slowly but surely losing support of ALL Jews that are not Zionists (and there are many). It may take some time for the 'older generation' to die out and for 'newer generations' to see the reality of Israel (and Zionism)'s EVILNESS.
The DISEASED, CANCEROUS tumor that is Israel (and Zionism and all its supporters) need to be eradicated from this world in order for the world (and humanity) to heal and progress forwards as a species.
It’s a terribly hard thing to face, but the histories of any small, exclusive sect inevitably gives rise to jealousy, dislike, and distrust.
And when you call yourselves the “Chosen Ones”, you’re asking for trouble, and you’re going to get it.
Jewish people have had a pretty good run in America. Hollywood, Broadway, Academia, and of course finance, has been good to them. But it’s time to stop being “chosen” and start being realistic. No one wants to look at their neighbors and think “Oh, my! If only I was chosen!”
99.8% of the world is tired of being told they’re second best, especially when Israel is doing such a great job of proving themselves, at best, second worst.
They can think themselves Chosen all they want as long as they don't commit mass murder and racist oppression. Couldn't they think the Chosen as being above such things? That would be nice.
It makes the world realize that Israel’s culture is so violently twisted and toxic that it doesn’t consider non-Jewish children to be priceless. They don’t see what the big deal is. These little children are all just “future terrorists” so why not kill them all?
This Sarah Hurwitz genocide-apologist does indeed sound obscene. Perhaps the most obscene thing of all is that she can hear herself saying these things out loud (as she is covering for zionist murderers) and she still BELIEVES they are not obscene. She can't seem to equate that anyone who actually condones the genocide of any people is racist and evil no matter their background.
You gotta really wonder what these genocide-apologists see when they look in the mirror each day. Do they really see how ugly they are? Do they really hear the obscenities falling from their lips? Zionists like Sarah act mentally ill, and they really should be locked away before they hurt anyone else.
Such Zionists (like Sara Hurwitz) are closet psychopaths and sociopaths. What? Did you think that only Israeli Zionists are psychopaths and sociopaths? I think there are way too many of 'such people' (i.e. Zionists) in the U.S. and parts of Europe with mentally ill (and dangerous) minds. I wonder if something can be done about such people...so that they do not POISON the rest of society.
They need to be exposed--which social media is doing--so we need to keep it up and make sure we don't get shut down by the sociopaths, zionist-sympathizers and the like.
Ive finally concluded Israel is the devil and Zionists are Satanists. That’s how I will now refer to them.
Absofuckinglutely.
Well, Jesus did say that it was the synagogue of Satan....
Sarah Hurwitz condemns herself AND the state of Israel with her own words. If you cannot be against the LITERAL genocide of an entire population then I'm sorry, YOU are the monster. I do not care if your ancestors were genocided themselves, in fact I would condemn you EVEN HARDER because you, of ALL PEOPLE, should know better. To expect people to simply give a nation committing genocide a pass simply because your "tribe" experienced their own genocide is simply absurd.
Committing genocide is WRONG WRONG WRONG, period, end of story. And it's FAR worse when being committed by the victims of genocide themselves.
Agree with you 100% 🙏
I worry that people will forget what has happened in Gaza. 'Impossible', you say.
But people forget that Zionists were co-perpetrators of the Holocaust and Israel protected those co-perpetrators with the full force of it's 'justice system'.
Zionists were FOR the Holocaust before they were against it. Or, rather, before they discovered how they could put Holocaust remembrance into service for Israel.
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Let me guess. You DID forget and now have no idea what I am talking about above.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they were perpetrators, but I will say they, such as Ben-Gurion and his cabal - yeah, the same Ben-Gurion after whom the airport in Israel is named, kinda like Dulles in this country - did cut deals with the Nazis to allow the better off, more desirable Jews escape to Palestine, leaving the hoi polloi to their fate. And Norman Finkelstein spelled it all out in his "The Holocaust Industry."
Thanks, but you left out so, so much. REAL REAL briefly, Zionists knowingly tricked hundreds of thousands of those that had put their trust in them onto the trains to Auschwitz. Later, in Israel, the leader was exonerated by the Supreme Court of Israel (3 to 2 vote by the judges) as the 'Jews of Hungary were not worth saving'.
SO INCREDIBLE, BUT TRUE.
You are very right! And Israel and Zionist Americans are sending bars of propaganda into our mailboxes under the names of things like Fellowship of Christian and Jews and Friends of Zion filled with pages and pages of expected, lies and fake surveys of support for Israel. Women, old women’s Holocaust survivors were told are shown as suffering from having their houses bombed out in Israel. This is how they make the case to the American people that Palestinians areterrorists when we all know that the only terrorists right now in the Middle East are Israelis.
Maybe if those settlers weren't constantly stealing land and property away from Palestinians then their houses wouldn't be bombed. It's a foreign concept to these people, I know. The statute of limitations on their perpetual victimhood has LONG since passed.
"But that’s a category error,” says Hurwitz. “The seven million people in Israel, they are not my co-religionists, they are my siblings. But I think if you think of them as merely your co-religionists, it’s easy to slide into anti-Zionism. You don’t necessarily have that connection to them.”
Hurwitz is saying here that Jews around the world should be loyal to Israel no matter what Israel does, not because that’s the moral or truthful position but because Israel is where their loyalties belong."
Now, glib rhetoric aside, how exactly is that any different from Nazism and why the hell am I obligated to love Israel?
It isn't. zionists are exactly like nazis. Both have a supremacist mindset and believe "the others" are subhumans to be used as livestock.
And apparently the livestock are supposed to be glad to be used and to see others so used. Otherwise they're antisemites.
I think of Pink Floyd's 'Animals' song on their 'Animals' album. I think it's coming sooner than later.
As the Talmud repeatedly states.....
Finkelstein put it better, "the Palestinians are treated like rats".
And better-er, when he said, "The only right the Israelis have is to pack their bags and leave."
So she's saying screw morality, all that matters is that my tribe wins. This is exactly the sort of mentality that one would expect a Darwin/Wallace survival of the fittest situation might produce. Rivals should be either enslaved or killed. And this is exactly what the European immigrants to the New World did. And now they are doing it again. In the USA it's just considered impolite to say it out loud.
"It's okay when we do it." -- Narcissus and friends
"Just following orders" of course, like the Naxis and pretty much every army in the world would say....
".. .giving young people the wrong impression that genocide is always bad." I read up to this point, by then with my jaw slacked at the idiocy if what I was reading...and then I got to "genocide isn't ALWAYS wrong" .... and then I stopped because I became ill.
What a psyco Sara Hurwitz be. Spewing fealty to genocide....so warped.
She’s a psychopath. She’s given the world a detailed description of how her psychopathic mind works.
Except that it's not just Sara Hurwitz that's psychotic... it's an entire Israeli society that's been indoctrinated from a very young age to be and believe in that psychopathy as a legitimate desirable way of being. Which is exactly why Israel must end. It's not an anomaly... it's their core belief system. It's putrid, vile and has absolutely no place in the modern world. And they have no inclination or desire to be any different or change. We certainly should not be sending ANY monetary aid, weapons, or support to the perpetual supremacist terrorist state of Israel.
It's ironic that these hateful racist regimes so often project onto "the other" exactly what they themselves are guilty of.
The world hates Israel for what it’s doing and what it’s done. And Israel’s response is not to change what it’s doing but instead to just blame the world. When do we get to talk about how psychotic and disordered Jewish Supremacists’ minds are? They just don’t function normally and there is no getting around that.
And, the US and UK governments support that.
Screw these deniers
"“Intelligent discontent is the mainspring of civilization. Progress is born of agitation. It is agitation or stagnation.”
-- Eugene Debs
"Hurwitz isn’t denying Israel’s abuses or framing its genocidal atrocities as the problem, she’s just coming right out and saying that people obtaining information and moral clarity about those abuses is the problem. The atrocities aren’t wrong, what’s wrong is people seeing those atrocities and calling them what they are."
Hello, this is an Obama speechwriter here. These are democrats and liberals.
Glib rationalization of atrocities is just what they do.
I was involved in the peace movement decades ago. I got tired of the "same old same old": the very same terrorist act ok if a dem in charge, bad if a rePUKE in charge. I surmised that as being nuts...and I slinked away...
Hey, when it comes to US foreign policy on any country, including Israel, don't think the Democratic Party is any better than the Republican Party. Both are devout war mongers and both are devout Zionists - and have been from the get-go.
Oh and Republicans don't reflexively support Zionists? Come on.
Nobody said otherwise. They tend more towards Eagle Flag Freedom bullshit and less glib Front Row Kid verbal gymnastics.
Hmm, I've never looked up the definition of glib. I get
"fluent and voluble but insincere and shallow."
I dunno, I believe in her sincerity. She really believes that stuff. Otherwise it would be too embarrassing to articulate. Only a deeply self-deluded person could say such things in public.
If I wanted to fake it I'd pretend that all the carnage videos were produced by evil Palestinian AI. People who want to believe that would believe it. Then I'd have my hyperrich buddies buy up all the conduits for those vids and shove them into a memory hole. Wait, didn't that already happen? We'll see how well that works.
Glib. Yes, that's the perfect word.
I used that word three times for a reason.
Pure unadulterated tribalism, the base evil behind all human social harms.
"Nietzsche observed that individual insanity is rare, but mass madness is the historical norm. Throughout time, entire nations have embraced irrational beliefs simply because everyone else did too." ~The Daily Stoic
And the power of dominant groups to broadcast their arguments while others dare not reply is generally the origin of those irrational beliefs and their widespread embrace.
It is telling that she never once says 'Maybe we should stop the genocide and then work on restoring Israel's image'. The brain worm is so deeply embedded in her brain that the reason the majority of the world's population now dislikes Israeli's with a passion is lost to her.
Personally, I feel sorry for the Palestinian's and am happy the Jews didn't set up their colony in my country 75 years ago. Or I would be a terrorist today fighting my occupiers!
It wasn't that they even set up their colony 75 years ago. Jews and Palestinians lived together in the British Protectorate known as Palestine until the world decided that the Jews got to create their own country in the same space occupied by Palestine, and Palestine would cease to exist. That's like having the cops show up at your house and forcibly evict you at gunpoint.
The world didn't decide that, don't make this universal and try to put the blame on everyone.
It was the British.
Jews, Muslims and Christians coexisted peacefully for more than a thousand years before the British arrived to colonize Palestine to capture its oil fields.
Fighting your occupiers is not terrorism. It is self defense. REAL self-defense, not the fake shit the Israelis peddle.
Me, too...fighting the occupiers.
CJ>>"I don’t know about you, but if my siblings were murdering civilians I would immediately become their enemy. I wouldn’t defend my brother if he was going around shooting children in the head like IDF snipers have been doing in Gaza, in fact I would feel a special responsibility to stop him exactly because he is my brother. Genocide doesn’t magically become acceptable if the perpetrators are your “siblings”, unless you are a sociopath."
Well said Caitlin! ❤️🙏 Precisely! Israel is slowly but surely losing support of ALL Jews that are not Zionists (and there are many). It may take some time for the 'older generation' to die out and for 'newer generations' to see the reality of Israel (and Zionism)'s EVILNESS.
The DISEASED, CANCEROUS tumor that is Israel (and Zionism and all its supporters) need to be eradicated from this world in order for the world (and humanity) to heal and progress forwards as a species.
Like Marx said, the tradition of all dead [and I will add old] generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.
Some aspects of disappearing culture are good, but comparatively, not many.
It’s a terribly hard thing to face, but the histories of any small, exclusive sect inevitably gives rise to jealousy, dislike, and distrust.
And when you call yourselves the “Chosen Ones”, you’re asking for trouble, and you’re going to get it.
Jewish people have had a pretty good run in America. Hollywood, Broadway, Academia, and of course finance, has been good to them. But it’s time to stop being “chosen” and start being realistic. No one wants to look at their neighbors and think “Oh, my! If only I was chosen!”
99.8% of the world is tired of being told they’re second best, especially when Israel is doing such a great job of proving themselves, at best, second worst.
They can think themselves Chosen all they want as long as they don't commit mass murder and racist oppression. Couldn't they think the Chosen as being above such things? That would be nice.
Hurwitz IS disgusting. Oh, her panic because they're losing control of the Narrative. VICTORY! We all had a hand in that!
Maiming and killing children is so much easier when no one is watching.
Even the Nazis made sure their death camps weren't in plain sight.
I guess it's one of the small bits of light we have regarding technology today, everyone carries around a video cam on their phone.
It makes the world realize that Israel’s culture is so violently twisted and toxic that it doesn’t consider non-Jewish children to be priceless. They don’t see what the big deal is. These little children are all just “future terrorists” so why not kill them all?
“Mowing the lawn” according to Satanyahoo.
"And I sound obscene.”
This Sarah Hurwitz genocide-apologist does indeed sound obscene. Perhaps the most obscene thing of all is that she can hear herself saying these things out loud (as she is covering for zionist murderers) and she still BELIEVES they are not obscene. She can't seem to equate that anyone who actually condones the genocide of any people is racist and evil no matter their background.
You gotta really wonder what these genocide-apologists see when they look in the mirror each day. Do they really see how ugly they are? Do they really hear the obscenities falling from their lips? Zionists like Sarah act mentally ill, and they really should be locked away before they hurt anyone else.
Such Zionists (like Sara Hurwitz) are closet psychopaths and sociopaths. What? Did you think that only Israeli Zionists are psychopaths and sociopaths? I think there are way too many of 'such people' (i.e. Zionists) in the U.S. and parts of Europe with mentally ill (and dangerous) minds. I wonder if something can be done about such people...so that they do not POISON the rest of society.
They need to be exposed--which social media is doing--so we need to keep it up and make sure we don't get shut down by the sociopaths, zionist-sympathizers and the like.