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Feral Finster's avatar

It doesn't matter whether we fall for the propaganda or not. They'll do what they want to anyway.

The propaganda is by itself the justification.

jamenta's avatar

Well, it's easier for them if we swallow it down whole and not make a ruckus.

Ling's avatar

Couldn’t agree more. They’re counting on people’s apathy, cynicism and defeatism to keep the crimes going. We all can throw a bit of sand to the machine.

jamenta's avatar
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They're also working on disappearing or even killing us if we dare disobey. Not sure what's going to happen in the next month or two, but the pot is starting to boil over here in the US - and Internationally as well.

So you want to live in interesting times? Maybe. If we all end up dead, maybe not.

Ling's avatar

Yes, it’s scary, but no way near what the full-on terror regime would bring, when there isn’t even going to be any space to defy.

Do it while we can. Hopefully collective actions will put the worst scenario to a grind.

“Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will,” as Gramsci said. Always a good reminder in dark times.

jamenta's avatar

The pessimist sees the bars, the optimist sees the stars.

Amos's avatar

I’ve been thinking for a while that it’s scary how we’re being herded into revolution. I mean, voting will get us nowhere, so revolution is the only option? Right?

But if they know it’s the only option and they’re herding us towards the door you’ve got to assume they’ve got a plan for when we go through the door.

Stay safe!

jamenta's avatar
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I guess we need to decide whether we go quietly into the goodnight, or fight back, as previous generations of Americans have done. It can be tough choice if you might lose your life in the process.

SW's avatar

It doesn’t matter if we make a ruckus. It won’t be reported or affect their actions in any way. Netanyahu and Dumbkoft want to bomb Iran dammit so that’s that!

Sadly, the people in Greenland speak English and refuse to say they’re oppressed so we’ll have to force oppression on them just as soon as the Shock Troops in Minneapolis hone their skills terrorizing unarmed citizens.

Ginnie's avatar

yeah but it's working. I have never seen so many people talk about the same crap they fed people during Iraq: we must bring them freedom/Saddam a threat to world peace/dangerous country. Few people have learned the lessons of the past.

Feral Finster's avatar

Humans are as easily led as any sheep or dog.

Occam's avatar

100%

I'm flabbergasted that this shit is working again, on the same people that have been supporting trump in part because of his anti-war election stance.

And I love how the right are now full experts in the domestic affairs of Iran. Although, thinking about it, there's probably a 100% overlap with people that pronounce Israel as the bastion of freedom & democracy (tm) in the ME.

Occam's avatar

Interesting point, ff.

Might be that the propaganda is just targeted at themselves so they can rationalize war.

Kinda like stories in nyt, wapo, etc. are just signals to the true believers in what the talking points of today are.

Nice system we got here, ain't it.

Lisa Savage's avatar

Caitlin, you occupy a unique position in our 21st century information hellscape: media consumption coach. Thank you for your service!!!

SL's avatar

You might find this article interesting. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2026/01/14/miami-beach-facebook-comment-police/ She made a Facebook comment about her mayor. Then the police arrived.

Raquel Pacheco, 51, said Miami Beach police officers came to her home to ask about a Facebook comment she wrote about the city’s mayor. Raquel Pacheco began recording on her phone Monday as she opened her front door to the pair of police officers standing outside.

They told her they had questions about a Facebook comment she had written.

“Is that your account?” one officer asked. The other held out his phone, showing a message Pacheco had written days earlier about the mayor of Miami Beach, where she lives. Pacheco had left the comment about a post from Mayor Steven Meiner, who is Jewish, calling his city a “safe haven for everyone” — contrasting it with “places like New York City,” where he accused officials of discriminating against Jews. Pacheco suggested in her reply that Meiner’s words of welcome didn’t match up with his actions as mayor. At her door, the officers told Pacheco they were looking for the commenter because that person’s words could “probably incite somebody to do something bad,” her video shows. Pacheco refused to answer their questions without an attorney present, and the officers left within minutes.

Heart racing, Pacheco shut her door and texted her recording of the exchange to three friends who practice law. She struggled to comprehend why the officers were sent to question her — a private citizen who once ran for elected office, knew the mayor and other local officials, and had deep faith in American values. Where the officers saw a comment that could incite violence, Pacheco saw an expression of her right to free speech, she said. Miami Beach voters elected Meiner to his office, which is nonpartisan, a month after the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas-led attack on Israel in which about 1,200 people were killed. Since then, the city — which was once inhabited mostly by Jewish people — has experienced a deepening rift among residents, including between Meiner and his constituents.

In March, the mayor tried to end the lease of a local cinema after it screened “No Other Land,” a movie made by Palestinian and Israeli filmmakers that shows Israelis bulldozing a town in the West Bank. Meiner described the documentary at the time as a “false one-sided propaganda attack on the Jewish people.” He backpedaled his efforts against the theater after a fraught, nine-hour city commission meeting.

Pacheco referenced the debacle in the comment that led police to her doorstep. On Jan. 6, Meiner’s official Facebook account published the post about Miami Beach being a welcome place. It featured a photo of the mayor with the text: “Miami Beach is a safe haven for everyone. We will always stand firm against any discrimination.”

Pacheco replied: “‘We will stand firm against any discrimination’ - unless you’re Palestinian, or Muslim or you think those people have a right to live.” She added: “Careful your racism is showing.”

The next day, the mayor’s post was shared on a community Facebook page, where Pacheco again responded.

“The guy who consistently calls for the death of all Palestinians, tried to shut down a theater for showing a movie that hurt his feelings, and REFUSES to stand up for the LGBTQ community in any way (even leaves the room when they vote on related matters) wants you to know that you’re all welcome here,” she wrote, alongside three clown emojis. It was this comment that police showed her when she opened her door Monday, Pacheco said.

“This is freedom of speech, this is America, right? I’m a veteran,” she told the officers, according to her recording of the two-minute conversation. Pacheco, who said she served in Connecticut’s Army National Guard from 1993 to 1999, said the officers told her she was not going to jail and that they were “just here to have a conversation.” Later in the video, an officer tells Pacheco: “I would think to refrain from posting things like that, because that can get something incited.” After the brief exchange, Pacheco sat in disbelief.

“There were cops at my door because of something I said,” Pacheco told The Post on Tuesday. “It felt like such a foreign, alien feeling.”

In the day since the officers’ visit, she has retained an attorney and made public records requests about the situation. Should it escalate, she said she was “prepared to sue.” While she described herself as progressive, she said she is “conservative when it comes to the Constitution,” a document she had come to revere since moving to the United States from Portugal in the 1980s. She said she strongly sees Monday’s interaction at her home as a violation of the rights guaranteed by it.

Bruce Maltby's avatar

This mayor Meiner needs removing - as does anybody in a position of authority who does not recognise that Palestine has the equal right to exist and thrive.

dacoelec's avatar

The communist and fascist stronghold is in Murica.

MakeTheWorldSafeForDiversity's avatar

Bill Ackman donates 10,000 dollars to ICE Agent who murdered American peaceful protester while zionists tell Americans to worry about American NGO-funded protesters in Iran.

Siobhan's avatar

Wouldn’t expect anything less from that piece of garbage

Stuart Estrine's avatar

Don’t insult garbage.

Occam's avatar

peaceful protester, lol

Antonio Brownlowe's avatar

3rd July 1988 IRAN AIRFLIGHT 655 was Shot down by Americas Navy

I have never listen to any western Report on IRAN for over 30 years. I dismiss everyone of them because all they do is lie ,lie and lie some more and western affiliated News report on Iran always lie from the lead up to the CIA overthrowing of Iran in 1953.

They have been trying to destroy IRAN since then. Iran bothered no one it is they that went there to bother them.

Just like the Palestinian was bothering no one they went there to bother them, whenever you try to defend yourself and to get the Foreign intruders m out of your land, you become the Evil and wicked Terrorist in your own land .

The same Colonial Imperialist game has been played all over for over 500 years .

When They deliberately shot down Iran’s passenger plane killing close to 300 people including Children they Claimed it was a ‘Spy plane ‘.Then the President G.W .Bush said he was never going to apologize for America no matter what the facts are .A REAL Good Godly American Christian .Yeah

Diana van Eyk's avatar

I bet the Mossad infiltrators who shot people, police and burned down buildings, including mosques, haven't gotten much msm coverage.

It's the staged colour revolution playbook, folks. This one should be so familiar to anyone who's been paying attention.

Kevin Flynn's avatar

At least we have a young, united and coherent opposition party with an actual clear plan fighting for us... Not.

Helen Londe MD's avatar

The Green Party of the US had a great platform for the US presidential election, so I think it is on the right side. I voted for Jill Stein for President. Please do not criticize me for not voting for the "lesser" of 2 evil genocidaires.

jamenta's avatar
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My party supports genocide, but the other party is worse, so vote for my party. Gets me every time - Americans still falling for this "Lesser of Two Evils" crap.

Like that's a valid moral choice: voting for either of two corrupt parties that 100% sponsored the mass murder of children in GAZA. Not me. Don't know about you, but genocide is as red a redline can ever get.

Bruce Maltby's avatar

Well said Helen.

jamenta's avatar

Maybe form our own secret org, the NSCIA "Not So Central Intelligence Agency" for opposition? Would need a lot of crowd funding.

Non Wilshaw's avatar

We’re being played and it stinks

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Trump is worried about Iran executing protesters. Israel executes kids that throw rocks and others that do nothing. Any Palestinian (and others) could be executed even for not protesting and getting in the way of a Greater (Racist) Israel. Make Palestine Palestine. Iran and others have the right to defend themselves. Wage Peace and Justice.

Spunty's avatar

He's not very worried about ICE terrorists assassinating innocent Americans.

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

The data dump of 4500 Ice agents with photo's etc. would be a good way to make "Wanted for U.S.Terrorism" posters.

Basil Rathbone's avatar

They lie about pretty much literally everything, and always have but never quite so ceaselessly as now. Their lies have reached crescendo levels with the current runup for war on Iran. That there are still millions of Americans sleepwalking and cognitively impaired by living in a nation grounded in lies who will cheerlead this imminent war is a tragedy, but shouldn't be surprising.

Bruce Maltby's avatar

Tens of millions…

thelonegunman's avatar

you know they’re lying when their lips are moving

Jim S's avatar

Thank You Caitlin

Stuart Estrine's avatar

Actually, if the perpetrators of genocide/imperialism’s lips are moving we know they are lying. I give you Exhibit A; the lifelong racist, grifter, inveterate liar, serial philanderer, covetous of his daughter (at least), fascist and war criminal Trump.

tre peperoncini's avatar

We know they lied about Iraq, Libya, Vietnam, Panama, Iran, Syria, Palestine, Yemen, Yugoslavia, John and Bobby Kennedy.

We know they are lying about Iran, Venezuela, Gaza, China, Russia, Ukraine, Nord Stream, Epstein.

They know that they are lying.

They know that we know they are lying.

We know that they know we know they are lying.

They know that we know they know we know they are lying.

And still, they lie, and still we believe.

In this country,

the lie is no longer merely a moral failure.

It has become an industry,

the pillar on which we stand.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, forgive me.

SamAsIAm's avatar

Truth, is irrelivant to psychopath's agendas and psychopaths are good at manipulating ignorance and those who lack critical thinking skills. And the US population has had a sufficient percentage of that component, to allow its psychopathic elite free reign my entire life and all of everyone else's reading this. That truth, is fatal.

Jo Waller's avatar

this language, trust your inner vision, don't let others change your mind, always makes me think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-lKMGII_k