There is no end to the stupidity, cupidity, absurdity, of the US government , and Canada is not far behind. If they thought they could posit Mickey Mouse and Disneyland as a world threat, they'd go for it. The threat from this garbage is to our sanity, and that's probably the motive. Bring on the aliens: nothing could be worse than what we have right here, right now.
When I take time to actually logically think about the idea of humans trying to fight an interstellar capable civilization it reminds me how silly most of the depictions are. If there were hostile civilizations out there, it would have gone down like in that twilight zone episode titled "A Small Talent For War" (I linked it in a comment below) and a long time ago. They would possess the capability to shut down any form of resistance humans attempted, with ease. I have recently seen a bunch of people online talking about how “Bad ETs” are here and we are going to some how “fight them off”. I think it is a silly anthropomorphic projection of our own childish behavior onto something completely different and beyond anything human.
Also, when it comes to Extraterrestrial Interstellar Civilizations (and the idea of their entire civilization being made up of hostile marauders or conquesting colonists) I see that as a contradiction in terms. What I mean is, you don’t harness the energy required to traverse the vastness of interstellar space without developing a certain degree of social maturity. The very fact that they have gotten here across the vastness of space and thus must have harnessed energy far greater than even atomic fission, would seem to indicate to me that they have passed a kind of “cosmic litmus test”. After all it would make logical sense to assume that if they are harnessing energy many times the magnitude of our atomic energy for interstellar propulsion, they would have blown themselves up through internal conflicts in their society before getting here. That is to say if they were still ‘warlike’, “malevolent” or “malicious” beings their collective lack of social maturity would have resulted in their own annihilation before they could leave their own solar system. In my opinion, for one to automatically fear a culture simply because it’s not human is an indication of an illogical xenophobic paranoia. Much of that is programmed and not the fault of an individual who might feel that way since I believe there has been a very prolific psychological warfare campaign waged on the general population on this topic for over 7 decades now.
Being capable of travelling amongst the stars, they are ancient races of beings that would have seen the development of many worlds as they transition through this turbulent stage that humanity is going through now. Despite our violent, short sighted, fearful and sometimes down right idiotic behavior, we are living conscious beings and i feel that you don’t get to their stage of technological, social and likely spiritual development (being capable of interstellar travel) without coming to cherish and respect all life. The apparent sightings of the interstellar and inter-dimensional vehicles that have been going on world wide may be part of some kind of intentional acclimatization process (on the part of the interstellar visitors), allowing for the gentle introduction of this reality in the consciousness of humans.
Considering the repeated demonstrations made by craft of unknown origins with 'impossible' maneuvering capabilities over nuclear missile silos in the past few decades, and their sightings by pilots, military officers, astronauts, and air traffic controllers sometimes being tracked on radar from multiple installations at the same time. It is obvious (to me) that some advanced civilizations definitely do have an interest in us. For some of them, it may be purely out of concern, considering we are a species that is beginning to reach beyond the confines of our planet, and are also a species who have used our knowledge of atomic energy to vaporize entire cities filled with living conscious beings. It would in my opinion, point to a legitimate reason for serious concern from the perspective of an outside observer. That coupled with fact that multiple reports from the officers in charge of safeguarding the nuclear missile silos in the united states and abroad have all stated that when or after these luminous spherical or disc shaped craft hovered above the silos and then left at high speed, missiles began to shut down and become non-operational would definitely point to that possibility.
'They' are definitely here, and to them.. we must seem like a toddler waving a loaded gun around in a crowded room, like a child playing with matches... and what do you do when a child burns things irresponsibly? you take the matches away.
While the incidents (described above) at nuclear weapons sites may stand out and carry an extra 'weight of credibility', in truth there are a multitude of well documented cases with piles of corroborating witnesses and even sometimes physical evidence to boot (spanning many decades all the way up to the present day).
The real issue (contrary to what many 'talking heads' have stated) is not a lack of evidence, it is the ocean of disinformation and propaganda that certain interests have pumped out to dilute, misdirect, and confuse those seeking the available information. Interestingly, it was more difficult for them to pump out disinformation about the nuclear missile incidents (given that those same interests like to glorify geopolitical ego identities which are invested in military prowess) and the idea of those who are part of the military being 'honorable and brave men'. But the fact remains, there is an abundance of cases where extraterrestrial craft have been proven to be either operating in the earth`s atmosphere, or landing on the ground.
From what I gather of these visitors, is that the vast majority of them see our species as 'lost-irresponsible children', their actions do date tell me that they are compassionate and very patient. There may have been a few less advanced renegade ET-s who were here for 'less than enlightened reasons', but they (the 'unpleasant' ones) are more like us (humans) in their advancement and understanding, then they are like the larger group of allied species who operate in unison to maintain peace in this region of the galaxy. The more advanced and ancient group watch and wait for us to grow up and get our shit together before they will openly connect with us and welcome us to the thriving interstellar community around us.
Agenda 21, NWO, project blue beam, with the way these people have coerced, brainwashed through the media outlets, the dumbing down of education taught at schools, the film, music industries, video games, bread & circuses they'd have the general public eating out of there hands, demanding that we install a New World Government/Order to deal with the threat. along with project blue beam, a technologically simulated mind control to shape a global New Age religion. They could simulate a worldwide event (Hostile Aliens) & then using starwars technology, HAARP etc to fake an alien invasion or the second coming of christ etc https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/star-wars-missile-defense-back%E2%80%94-will-it-work-25197
The part before the twist ending (where all the nations felt compelled to work together in face of their common threat) made me think of part of a speech Reagan gave at the UN: “I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.”
The fact that I have heard other world leaders saying things along a similar lines in recent times (regarding how 'helpful' a perceived threat from outside this world would be in consolidating power and ensuring cooperation between nation states) is a little unnerving to me. Especially when one considers the historical use of psychological warfare operations by various military powers to influence the public towards similar ends. False flag operations ( known by the military as: "deceptive indication and warning operations") have been used many times before. The RMS Lusitania, the Reichstag fire, the Gulf of Tonkin and of course September 11, 2001.
Given the extremely advanced technology at the disposal of organizations like the DOD, NSA (and various U.S.A.P.-s operating under the umbrella of the US Airforce) I would say that the capability does exist to orchestrate the manufacturing of a perceived threat of that type (like that which was depicted in the twilight zone episode). For people who want to perpetuate military spending and further consolidate power in the hands of the few on Earth, such a thing may be their end game. Only time will tell. One thing is for sure.. If i see images of "ufos"/"uaps" blowing stuff up on the news, I will be asking questions and applying intuition, discernment and common sense before i believe what any paid actors (aka 'news reporters' and government officials) are saying about it.
To Mr. Nichols' point, the predictive programming has been set up for decades through Hollywood films i.e. "Independence Day" "War of the Worlds" "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" etc. Give a listen to Werner von Braun's (a former NASA director) deathbed confession to his assistant Carol Rosen about this very thing. You want to know qui bono? The Globalists do. If they pull this off and get total control over all humanity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRjWWacrxm0
I gotta be laughing about this. If UFO's exist, surely they are not populated with anything like idiot humans. There is no reason for any advanced creatures to visit this world other than perhaps to consider it like a trip to the zoo. And I don't want any silly government initiating first contact on my behalf.
My speculation is that this Report being issued right now is a result of several things are happening simultaneously
1) military madness is a t a fever pitch, emboldening the National Security State to find any reason at all for more weapons and R&D;
2) the American people and media have sunk to such a low level of intelligence and skepticism that the NSS feels emboldened to engage the most outlandish manipulation schemes;
3) Cold Far 2.0 Fever - Ruskies and China are knocking;
4) Psychosis - decline of Empire prompts magical thinking.
Amazing how many people see the U in UFO as an A. To admit one doesn't know is seen as a mark of ignorance, better to say something, anything outlandish, than to admit not knowing.
Hey Caitlyn, have been a fan of yours on Medium for years. In all that time I can't honestly remember disagreeing with you on pretty much anything, whether its your work about the empire no one wants to see or the more esoteric stuff about consciousness. Total alignment.
Want to share some thoughts about Greer, as I've been following his work for 20+ years. Nearly 30 years ago I had a conference recording job that covered the UFO topic quite heavily. Was amazing listening to so many different theories of reality... some of which I later realized was most likely straight-up disinfo. However, I think Greer is one of the most upstanding and consistent people in the space. I read the Wash Examiner article you linked to, which was rather thin in terms of discrediting him. Was a bit surprised to see you make such a definitive statement as "known fraud" based on just one article.
Greer's basic position could be summarized as thus... shortly after the conversion of the OSS into the CIA, a power cluster within the security establishment spirited away all of the evidence into black box, off budget projects, classifying everything above Top Secret. The reason was simple -- protect the fossil fuel regimes. Greer says that is the main reason for secrecy on the topic, not anything like the shock of realizing we're not alone in the universe. I think this theory tracks quite well with everything we know about the fossil fuel sector, whether it was Standard Oil supplying both sides in WW2 or the Iraq + Ukraine escapades in more recent times.
Beyond the socio-political aspect of the UFO phenomenon, I think you'd also resonate quite deeply with Greer's philosophical positions, which is that everything is about consciousness. He's led thousands of contact events and has a massive photo and video collection; the protocol is all about raising consciousness within a group as it forms a sort of "contact antenna" (my words) which ET craft and their inhabitants can detect. Makes total sense to me that advanced civilizations would be primarily focused on consciousness and would be extremely well developed in this regard. (Just imagine musk's neurolink as a crude stone axe to get an idea.)
Happy to share more thoughts if this is of interest. Glad to see you dropped the UFO topic finally!
I followed Caitlin's link to isgp and was surprised to see a typical skeptics page dedicated to debunking everything that doesn't fit a materialist's small imagination. That site for sure cannot be trusted.
And if there is a spike in UFO sightings, i would hope it's cause we're edging ever closer to destroying life on this planet and they're here to stop that from happening. Though the prime directive is to not interfere with a planet's evolution, if said planet is on the verge of self annihilation, then that would be the time to step in, and harassing the US military would be how to do it.
As a fellow fan of Caitlin's, I like how you extended the "I don't know" of her piece. There are two very separate questions here: 1) are there UFOs and ETs? 2) Why is the gov't presenting this now? I think we're all in agreement that the second question has nothing to do with the first--they're not telling us anything just because it's true. There's some motive and it's nefarious.
I really loved the way that Caitlin presented all the hypotheses without having an answer. Something's weird and bears scrutiny. On another thread, we've been talking about the blood-drenched Satanic Biden speech, and why it was a made-for-meme gift to Republican candidates. I don't have an answer but something's fishy.
Your and Greer's premise should also be allowed in the realm of possibility. Like Caitlin, I'm comfortably agnostic on the UFO question because either answer wouldn't change how I live. Raising my own consciousness is an end in itself. Since I entertain the Course in Miracles premise that the world may exist in our One consciousness as a bad dream, UFOs are no less possible than hedgehogs. If they're a useful idea for raising consciousness, bring 'em on.
I do believe we have reverse engineered alien technology. What you now see are US made craft being tested. What better way to test something than in plain sight and call it unidentified.
I don't believe this to be the case. But I don't DISBELIEVE it either.
In fact, you might very well be onto something. My superficial knowledge of Bob Lazar hasn't led me to believe he's lying; so you might be onto something.
Meh. Did the government make up the Nimitz incident, including all the multiple pilot's testimony, the actual video recording we have, the confirmed data from both the Nimitz and other support ships. Was that all some elaborate plot? I doubt it.
Are other alien civilizations out there and likely are far and away more technologically advanced then us? Yes, very likely so. Especially given we now know how common other earth-like planets are in the galaxy.
Will the US government use the information for their own propaganda purposes - such as when the famous UFO sightings over Washington DC were used by the deep state to blame Russia for advanced technology. Yes, very likely so - the UFOs will be used as propaganda tools.
Does that mean we should ignore the phenomena, or convince ourselves there can be no alien probes visiting earth. Nope.
I appreciate this subject and fully imagine they will pull the UFO false flag at some point. I'd recommend Dark Journalist as a source for good information on this and how our government spins it. They know a lot and it's never what they tell us.
I'd also suggest not jumping to 'fraud' conclusions on Greer. I think given his decades now of research on this, he deserves a less reductive label.
Absolutely Kathleen, I agree... Daniel Liszt , “Dark Journalist” level of obviously well read breadth and depth of our history, covert military ops, early international theosophy and mystery schools, anthroposophy, profoundly in depth on Edgar Casey and purposefully hidden from public c i a censored geopolitical topics... Daniel is by far one of the most sincere deep investigative journalists of our time with encyclopedic recall quite rare to witness... if there’s one weekly podcast I rarely miss it’s “Dark Journalist”
The same people who benefit from creating any "common enemy". World domination requires a common global enemy. If the global warming save the planet narrative doesn't stick, they can fall back on UFOs.
Control the narrative to manipulate reality perception , some kind of hypnosis.
" I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? "
The non stop series of crisis over the last 2-3 years has been highly obvious in its intent. By keeping people distracted with the latest tragedy, the latest threat, the latest weird thing they keep the people off balance and afraid. Fear is a powerful tool of control. Much of it was totally fake, a coin shortage was pushed as an existential crisis, UFOs are no different. Just one more crisis too exploit to stir up people and push them to the edge.
For a rational person, the great difficulty about UFOs is the lack of material physical evidence. But it's just the way around for conspiratologists, fabulists, the wantonly credulous, and so on, who form the great majority of the population. (I have read that 50% of adult Americans believe that angels show up in daily life.) The lack of physical evidence means their imagination can fly free. Our prehistoric ancestors had their myths and legends; and we have ours.
i have seen two UFOs in my life time, one in 1979 and the other in 1992, i know a lot about aircraft and to this day i cant account for their flight characteristics and silence at such range
trust the government? no but that doesnt mean there isnt strange shit out there and for a long time
I've seen them too but I think many are military owned. And then there's also multidimensional beings out there. Like the orbs for example. We see orbs all the time, they're everywhere.
theres so many possibilities, maybe they are military owned but ancient archaeological finds, or more recent crashes/captures. impossible to say but they dont behave like anything publicly known. most of the orbs could be more easily explained away but theres a couple of odd ones, if i recall in mexico?
What about this being the precursor to a bid to use high-tech weaponry to create a false flag alien invasion and add to the prevailing fear being whipped up by the Covid19 scam and the killer, fake vaccines? They may just get the 99% in the palm of their hands and ready to be crushed or to accede to the next planned eugenics onslaught.
There is no end to the stupidity, cupidity, absurdity, of the US government , and Canada is not far behind. If they thought they could posit Mickey Mouse and Disneyland as a world threat, they'd go for it. The threat from this garbage is to our sanity, and that's probably the motive. Bring on the aliens: nothing could be worse than what we have right here, right now.
When I take time to actually logically think about the idea of humans trying to fight an interstellar capable civilization it reminds me how silly most of the depictions are. If there were hostile civilizations out there, it would have gone down like in that twilight zone episode titled "A Small Talent For War" (I linked it in a comment below) and a long time ago. They would possess the capability to shut down any form of resistance humans attempted, with ease. I have recently seen a bunch of people online talking about how “Bad ETs” are here and we are going to some how “fight them off”. I think it is a silly anthropomorphic projection of our own childish behavior onto something completely different and beyond anything human.
Also, when it comes to Extraterrestrial Interstellar Civilizations (and the idea of their entire civilization being made up of hostile marauders or conquesting colonists) I see that as a contradiction in terms. What I mean is, you don’t harness the energy required to traverse the vastness of interstellar space without developing a certain degree of social maturity. The very fact that they have gotten here across the vastness of space and thus must have harnessed energy far greater than even atomic fission, would seem to indicate to me that they have passed a kind of “cosmic litmus test”. After all it would make logical sense to assume that if they are harnessing energy many times the magnitude of our atomic energy for interstellar propulsion, they would have blown themselves up through internal conflicts in their society before getting here. That is to say if they were still ‘warlike’, “malevolent” or “malicious” beings their collective lack of social maturity would have resulted in their own annihilation before they could leave their own solar system. In my opinion, for one to automatically fear a culture simply because it’s not human is an indication of an illogical xenophobic paranoia. Much of that is programmed and not the fault of an individual who might feel that way since I believe there has been a very prolific psychological warfare campaign waged on the general population on this topic for over 7 decades now.
Being capable of travelling amongst the stars, they are ancient races of beings that would have seen the development of many worlds as they transition through this turbulent stage that humanity is going through now. Despite our violent, short sighted, fearful and sometimes down right idiotic behavior, we are living conscious beings and i feel that you don’t get to their stage of technological, social and likely spiritual development (being capable of interstellar travel) without coming to cherish and respect all life. The apparent sightings of the interstellar and inter-dimensional vehicles that have been going on world wide may be part of some kind of intentional acclimatization process (on the part of the interstellar visitors), allowing for the gentle introduction of this reality in the consciousness of humans.
Considering the repeated demonstrations made by craft of unknown origins with 'impossible' maneuvering capabilities over nuclear missile silos in the past few decades, and their sightings by pilots, military officers, astronauts, and air traffic controllers sometimes being tracked on radar from multiple installations at the same time. It is obvious (to me) that some advanced civilizations definitely do have an interest in us. For some of them, it may be purely out of concern, considering we are a species that is beginning to reach beyond the confines of our planet, and are also a species who have used our knowledge of atomic energy to vaporize entire cities filled with living conscious beings. It would in my opinion, point to a legitimate reason for serious concern from the perspective of an outside observer. That coupled with fact that multiple reports from the officers in charge of safeguarding the nuclear missile silos in the united states and abroad have all stated that when or after these luminous spherical or disc shaped craft hovered above the silos and then left at high speed, missiles began to shut down and become non-operational would definitely point to that possibility.
(UFOs Disarming Nuclear Warheads - CNN clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0tg4E4CU70 )
'They' are definitely here, and to them.. we must seem like a toddler waving a loaded gun around in a crowded room, like a child playing with matches... and what do you do when a child burns things irresponsibly? you take the matches away.
While the incidents (described above) at nuclear weapons sites may stand out and carry an extra 'weight of credibility', in truth there are a multitude of well documented cases with piles of corroborating witnesses and even sometimes physical evidence to boot (spanning many decades all the way up to the present day).
The real issue (contrary to what many 'talking heads' have stated) is not a lack of evidence, it is the ocean of disinformation and propaganda that certain interests have pumped out to dilute, misdirect, and confuse those seeking the available information. Interestingly, it was more difficult for them to pump out disinformation about the nuclear missile incidents (given that those same interests like to glorify geopolitical ego identities which are invested in military prowess) and the idea of those who are part of the military being 'honorable and brave men'. But the fact remains, there is an abundance of cases where extraterrestrial craft have been proven to be either operating in the earth`s atmosphere, or landing on the ground.
From what I gather of these visitors, is that the vast majority of them see our species as 'lost-irresponsible children', their actions do date tell me that they are compassionate and very patient. There may have been a few less advanced renegade ET-s who were here for 'less than enlightened reasons', but they (the 'unpleasant' ones) are more like us (humans) in their advancement and understanding, then they are like the larger group of allied species who operate in unison to maintain peace in this region of the galaxy. The more advanced and ancient group watch and wait for us to grow up and get our shit together before they will openly connect with us and welcome us to the thriving interstellar community around us.
Agenda 21, NWO, project blue beam, with the way these people have coerced, brainwashed through the media outlets, the dumbing down of education taught at schools, the film, music industries, video games, bread & circuses they'd have the general public eating out of there hands, demanding that we install a New World Government/Order to deal with the threat. along with project blue beam, a technologically simulated mind control to shape a global New Age religion. They could simulate a worldwide event (Hostile Aliens) & then using starwars technology, HAARP etc to fake an alien invasion or the second coming of christ etc https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/star-wars-missile-defense-back%E2%80%94-will-it-work-25197
There was an Outer Limits early on that featured an alien invasion which united a dysfunctional world
and before that there was a Twilight Zone Episode portraying a similar storyline.
Here is the full 8 minute episode segment. "Twilight Zone - A Small Talent For War": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbT1fCHOjfI
The part before the twist ending (where all the nations felt compelled to work together in face of their common threat) made me think of part of a speech Reagan gave at the UN: “I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.”
https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/address-42d-session-united-nations-general-assembly-new-york-new-york Given he said that just a few months after the episode aired, perhaps Reagan saw it and was influenced by the twilight zone.
The fact that I have heard other world leaders saying things along a similar lines in recent times (regarding how 'helpful' a perceived threat from outside this world would be in consolidating power and ensuring cooperation between nation states) is a little unnerving to me. Especially when one considers the historical use of psychological warfare operations by various military powers to influence the public towards similar ends. False flag operations ( known by the military as: "deceptive indication and warning operations") have been used many times before. The RMS Lusitania, the Reichstag fire, the Gulf of Tonkin and of course September 11, 2001.
Given the extremely advanced technology at the disposal of organizations like the DOD, NSA (and various U.S.A.P.-s operating under the umbrella of the US Airforce) I would say that the capability does exist to orchestrate the manufacturing of a perceived threat of that type (like that which was depicted in the twilight zone episode). For people who want to perpetuate military spending and further consolidate power in the hands of the few on Earth, such a thing may be their end game. Only time will tell. One thing is for sure.. If i see images of "ufos"/"uaps" blowing stuff up on the news, I will be asking questions and applying intuition, discernment and common sense before i believe what any paid actors (aka 'news reporters' and government officials) are saying about it.
To Mr. Nichols' point, the predictive programming has been set up for decades through Hollywood films i.e. "Independence Day" "War of the Worlds" "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" etc. Give a listen to Werner von Braun's (a former NASA director) deathbed confession to his assistant Carol Rosen about this very thing. You want to know qui bono? The Globalists do. If they pull this off and get total control over all humanity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRjWWacrxm0
I remember Raygun's starwars crap.
I gotta be laughing about this. If UFO's exist, surely they are not populated with anything like idiot humans. There is no reason for any advanced creatures to visit this world other than perhaps to consider it like a trip to the zoo. And I don't want any silly government initiating first contact on my behalf.
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My speculation is that this Report being issued right now is a result of several things are happening simultaneously
1) military madness is a t a fever pitch, emboldening the National Security State to find any reason at all for more weapons and R&D;
2) the American people and media have sunk to such a low level of intelligence and skepticism that the NSS feels emboldened to engage the most outlandish manipulation schemes;
3) Cold Far 2.0 Fever - Ruskies and China are knocking;
4) Psychosis - decline of Empire prompts magical thinking.
Amazing how many people see the U in UFO as an A. To admit one doesn't know is seen as a mark of ignorance, better to say something, anything outlandish, than to admit not knowing.
That has always irritated me. It’s not an Extraterrestrial Flying Object, it’s merely unidentified.
Yep.
Hey Caitlyn, have been a fan of yours on Medium for years. In all that time I can't honestly remember disagreeing with you on pretty much anything, whether its your work about the empire no one wants to see or the more esoteric stuff about consciousness. Total alignment.
Want to share some thoughts about Greer, as I've been following his work for 20+ years. Nearly 30 years ago I had a conference recording job that covered the UFO topic quite heavily. Was amazing listening to so many different theories of reality... some of which I later realized was most likely straight-up disinfo. However, I think Greer is one of the most upstanding and consistent people in the space. I read the Wash Examiner article you linked to, which was rather thin in terms of discrediting him. Was a bit surprised to see you make such a definitive statement as "known fraud" based on just one article.
Greer's basic position could be summarized as thus... shortly after the conversion of the OSS into the CIA, a power cluster within the security establishment spirited away all of the evidence into black box, off budget projects, classifying everything above Top Secret. The reason was simple -- protect the fossil fuel regimes. Greer says that is the main reason for secrecy on the topic, not anything like the shock of realizing we're not alone in the universe. I think this theory tracks quite well with everything we know about the fossil fuel sector, whether it was Standard Oil supplying both sides in WW2 or the Iraq + Ukraine escapades in more recent times.
Beyond the socio-political aspect of the UFO phenomenon, I think you'd also resonate quite deeply with Greer's philosophical positions, which is that everything is about consciousness. He's led thousands of contact events and has a massive photo and video collection; the protocol is all about raising consciousness within a group as it forms a sort of "contact antenna" (my words) which ET craft and their inhabitants can detect. Makes total sense to me that advanced civilizations would be primarily focused on consciousness and would be extremely well developed in this regard. (Just imagine musk's neurolink as a crude stone axe to get an idea.)
Happy to share more thoughts if this is of interest. Glad to see you dropped the UFO topic finally!
I followed Caitlin's link to isgp and was surprised to see a typical skeptics page dedicated to debunking everything that doesn't fit a materialist's small imagination. That site for sure cannot be trusted.
And if there is a spike in UFO sightings, i would hope it's cause we're edging ever closer to destroying life on this planet and they're here to stop that from happening. Though the prime directive is to not interfere with a planet's evolution, if said planet is on the verge of self annihilation, then that would be the time to step in, and harassing the US military would be how to do it.
As a fellow fan of Caitlin's, I like how you extended the "I don't know" of her piece. There are two very separate questions here: 1) are there UFOs and ETs? 2) Why is the gov't presenting this now? I think we're all in agreement that the second question has nothing to do with the first--they're not telling us anything just because it's true. There's some motive and it's nefarious.
I really loved the way that Caitlin presented all the hypotheses without having an answer. Something's weird and bears scrutiny. On another thread, we've been talking about the blood-drenched Satanic Biden speech, and why it was a made-for-meme gift to Republican candidates. I don't have an answer but something's fishy.
Your and Greer's premise should also be allowed in the realm of possibility. Like Caitlin, I'm comfortably agnostic on the UFO question because either answer wouldn't change how I live. Raising my own consciousness is an end in itself. Since I entertain the Course in Miracles premise that the world may exist in our One consciousness as a bad dream, UFOs are no less possible than hedgehogs. If they're a useful idea for raising consciousness, bring 'em on.
I do believe we have reverse engineered alien technology. What you now see are US made craft being tested. What better way to test something than in plain sight and call it unidentified.
I disagree. My take on aliens:
"Have extraterrestrials ever visited Earth?"
https://relevantmatters.wordpress.com/2021/08/12/has-a-craft-from-an-advanced-civilization-ever-visited-earth/
I skimmed the article, and the author makes valid points.
Alien Visitations reminds me sooo much of the Existence Of God arguments I had to study in Philosophy Class at college.
Both bear similarities that there is just, JUST enough evidence to nourish the faith on both sides of the argument.
Aaand both sides of the argument provide enough grist for some wonder-filled speculation.
And boy oh boy does my imagination run rampant during those day dreams.
Thanks! And you make good points, too!
I don't believe this to be the case. But I don't DISBELIEVE it either.
In fact, you might very well be onto something. My superficial knowledge of Bob Lazar hasn't led me to believe he's lying; so you might be onto something.
Meh. Did the government make up the Nimitz incident, including all the multiple pilot's testimony, the actual video recording we have, the confirmed data from both the Nimitz and other support ships. Was that all some elaborate plot? I doubt it.
Are other alien civilizations out there and likely are far and away more technologically advanced then us? Yes, very likely so. Especially given we now know how common other earth-like planets are in the galaxy.
Will the US government use the information for their own propaganda purposes - such as when the famous UFO sightings over Washington DC were used by the deep state to blame Russia for advanced technology. Yes, very likely so - the UFOs will be used as propaganda tools.
Does that mean we should ignore the phenomena, or convince ourselves there can be no alien probes visiting earth. Nope.
I appreciate this subject and fully imagine they will pull the UFO false flag at some point. I'd recommend Dark Journalist as a source for good information on this and how our government spins it. They know a lot and it's never what they tell us.
I'd also suggest not jumping to 'fraud' conclusions on Greer. I think given his decades now of research on this, he deserves a less reductive label.
Absolutely Kathleen, I agree... Daniel Liszt , “Dark Journalist” level of obviously well read breadth and depth of our history, covert military ops, early international theosophy and mystery schools, anthroposophy, profoundly in depth on Edgar Casey and purposefully hidden from public c i a censored geopolitical topics... Daniel is by far one of the most sincere deep investigative journalists of our time with encyclopedic recall quite rare to witness... if there’s one weekly podcast I rarely miss it’s “Dark Journalist”
The same people who benefit from creating any "common enemy". World domination requires a common global enemy. If the global warming save the planet narrative doesn't stick, they can fall back on UFOs.
Control the narrative to manipulate reality perception , some kind of hypnosis.
" I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? "
Reagan 1987
https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/address-42d-session-united-nations-general-assembly-new-york-new-york
On the bring of armageddon to what extent would you lie or compromise your ethics if you could prevent it ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film)#Plot
In addition to Watchmen it seems some predictive programming was put into the V for Vendetta movie adaptation.
Cultural Despair and Crisis Cults
https://ebrary.net/138731/sociology/cultural_despair_crisis_cults
The non stop series of crisis over the last 2-3 years has been highly obvious in its intent. By keeping people distracted with the latest tragedy, the latest threat, the latest weird thing they keep the people off balance and afraid. Fear is a powerful tool of control. Much of it was totally fake, a coin shortage was pushed as an existential crisis, UFOs are no different. Just one more crisis too exploit to stir up people and push them to the edge.
Haha totally forgot about the coin “shortage”.
For a rational person, the great difficulty about UFOs is the lack of material physical evidence. But it's just the way around for conspiratologists, fabulists, the wantonly credulous, and so on, who form the great majority of the population. (I have read that 50% of adult Americans believe that angels show up in daily life.) The lack of physical evidence means their imagination can fly free. Our prehistoric ancestors had their myths and legends; and we have ours.
50%? That's good. Im not sure if they help you if you don't believe in them. Actually, I think they do anyway if you're on a good course.
i have seen two UFOs in my life time, one in 1979 and the other in 1992, i know a lot about aircraft and to this day i cant account for their flight characteristics and silence at such range
trust the government? no but that doesnt mean there isnt strange shit out there and for a long time
I've seen them too but I think many are military owned. And then there's also multidimensional beings out there. Like the orbs for example. We see orbs all the time, they're everywhere.
theres so many possibilities, maybe they are military owned but ancient archaeological finds, or more recent crashes/captures. impossible to say but they dont behave like anything publicly known. most of the orbs could be more easily explained away but theres a couple of odd ones, if i recall in mexico?
Yes, I suppose it could be all of that. There's so much that's been kept hidden from us.
What better way to suspend the constitution, enact continuity of Govt. and demand a global framework to respond.
When they ALL walk like ducks and quack.. you are looking at a bunch of ducks, it's that simple.
Frankly, I've been joking about waiting for the hologram & lazer show for some years
What about this being the precursor to a bid to use high-tech weaponry to create a false flag alien invasion and add to the prevailing fear being whipped up by the Covid19 scam and the killer, fake vaccines? They may just get the 99% in the palm of their hands and ready to be crushed or to accede to the next planned eugenics onslaught.