Indeed. 9/11 was the catalyst. After that, the elites knew we were a nation of sheep. Caitlin is a good shepherd, trying to lead the benighted and befuddled back to rational thought. Good on her.
I am still waiting for people to realize, that now that they know they are being lied to about the safety of the jabs, the origin of the virus and the corrupted scientific "debate", that they would also realize that, hang on, we have heard this whole spiel before!
For starters: No one really has read NIST's NCSTAR1, page 82, footnote 13, which I encourage people to do (always read the source for yourself!), or subsequently has looked into the "science" behind the collapse, being provided two days after the event, years before the data gathering by FEMA and NIST was done. If you have not heard a debate about it, remember what you have heard about: all those conspiracy lunatics, that were raising questions about the official narrative. Sounds familiar? Here is a summary of the points that should be debated in scientific circles, but aren't. https://archive.org/details/summary-nist-wtc-problems-combined
Also if you understand German I would recommend the 2 1/2 hour talk by Dr. Ansgar Schneider. A couple of years ago, I would have been able to present you with a youtube link and there you could have chosen automatically generated subtitles, but that video has been taken down after receiving too much attention. So here is a link to the German version: https://odysee.com/@Melechkatan:6/Ansgar_Schneider_ueber_Wissenschaft_und_gesellschaftliche_Leugnung:2 really interesting are the parts of the talk where he takes a look at the Media response and the "debate" in scientific circles.
It shouldn't even be remarkable that a society whose fundamental metaphor is the theater would enact mythical spectacles and fake plots in support of the continuing existence of high drama. The technical details of the WTC event are almost a distraction, as the moral theories that drive the investigation (individual responsibility, accountabiilty, emotional performativity) are false.
Among his responsibilities is to ensure all words in world dictionaries are touched in one way or another. So even if counts for rare words stay low, at least their access times are kept up-to-date.
But he does, which is what's important for the task of preserving word heritage. He does ideas too.
Btw, good you're back as I never believed you'd retire from the forum. Your style of prefixing responses with addressee name was being missed as it provides structure as well as disambiguates the target.
True it’s globally organised kleptocratic investor shareholder uncontrolled capitalist and sometimes communist hegemonic class of all nations, the oligarchs and mafioso types for whom enough is never enough. We gave them the power. They destroy everything and now we cannot stop it.
They're only communist among themselves. But that's true for ALL ruling classes, with the possible exception of Josef Stalin who is hated by Westoids because he walked the talk and had a commie block apartment same as every other worker.
Westtoid, I’m in the west. I’m a lennonist apparently ( before I knew what one was) 🤣🤣, but me I’m just a human seeking humanity. I’m pretty sure this crap isn’t just going on in the west. Not saying the west is exactly good saintly or nice given empire but crap happens everywhere. The global establishment are from all places, I live in a 1 bed flat. I get called a tramp, spacca idiot and retard by many. It’s quite sad that humans prefer to destroy each other and their own habitat and ecology. And some think they are more equal isn’t it. Racism/ableism and all the other stuff that is done to divide, rule and destroy happens all over, it’s not just the west. I consider myself a true socialist. But there are plenty of fake ones in it. Human condition is self destruction, parasitism,self flagellation, hard to see the hood because of the harm. Some of the kind west people are labelled what they aren’t and some of the most selfish vain narcissists pretend they are good but are real devils and manipulators. I’m depressed. I lived in a matrix and it took me 40 years to see it. I knew life was wrong, but when we are working ourselves to death and only valued if it is paid work by society and community but free labour , caring for others is simply not valued. We are too distracted to see. Most of my life was married by abuse and ignorance and misdiagnosis. It’s only when we are disabled we start having time to work out what is happening . When they have used us for appitance and profited from our pain and low so called status of working class. Only the established benefit from the BS neoliberalism , opportunism and colonialism. Instead of countries empire powers are corporate investor gangster individuals pulling puppet strings. And it’s not just the west. It’s everywhere.
It is everywhere, but Plato of Athens was patient zero. The historical path of his ideology can be traced through imperial Rome (via Plotinus and Aurelius) into the new imperial religion Christianity, thence via force all across Asia Minor and Europe, eventually being printed (and somehow still taken seriously by readers), inspiring Reformed theology by Calvin and Luther, hitching a ride on the English Puritans and its colonies, and thence broadcast to the entire world as a shining city on a hill (with big guns and an arrogant necropolitics). Yes, it's endemic now. But no social condition is immutable, and the amount of hidden labor that goes into keeping these magnificent puppets in the air and breathing fire is extraordinary. And it tends to rest particularly on the shoulders of women. And they could shut the whole game down for great justice by flipping the table and walking away, were they so inclined.
It never escaped my attention that the USA took Roman architecture as its prime way to present its buildings of "authority" to lord over its subjects with the specter of power..
By the way i'm sure most here are dutifully and obediently as trained to be trainable in never forgetting to sign and date all those tax checks doing so..
Is it just me, or just about everywhere I look, British intelligence is there doing something (bad and that the US wants done, but just can't bring itself to do)?
Now working my way through this excellent tome, but let me first try to respond to this, as I was thinking about writing about it just yesterday. Caitlin qualified the climate issue with this:
"but I also think it’s suspicious that that debate consumes so much oxygen"
Unfortunately, this caveat both misses the real problem and reinforces the climate deniers and paranoid WEF, Soros, Al Gore crowd.
The real problem is that, over the last 30 years, climate and environmental activists have been captured and corrupted by corporate, Foundation, and government money and the rich donors who sit on their boards.
This money has corrupted their work and dictated their strategy, which gives corporations and governments green cover, while simultaneously generating hostility from working class and regular people. It also has greatly exacerbated longstanding elite influence and control of the environmental and conservation communities.
All this has deeply polarized the issues and now is playing right into the culture wars and right wing paranoid conspiracy thinking monster (e.g. George Galloway and Jimmy Dore both have called the climate emergency a "hoax" and "scam" manufactured by elites to consolidate power and control and transfer wealth to billionaires). They have used the real abuses of COVID science, regulatory capture by Big Pharma, and the vaccine and "lock down" response as the model for all this.
This is a very serious and rapidly escalating problem. It must be engaged head on. We look to you Caitlin and enlightened folks here for that pushback.
"The real problem is that, over the last 30 years, climate and environmental activists have been captured and corrupted by corporate, Foundation, and government money and the rich donors who sit on their boards."
That's just it - how can a corrupt bunch of "activists" and "scientists" be trusted? If they happily sold themselves at the first opportunity why couldn't they have been selling their "expertise" and "concern" initially?
You are missing the fundamental distinction between climate science and the policy responses the advocates focus on. The science is uncorrupted but the policy agenda is all corporate dominated. Additionally, you ignore the fact that the corporate fossil industry has long sought to corrupt the science (similar to what they did for for health risks of lead, asbestos, tobacco, chemicals, etc - excellent book that documents this history, see: "Doubt Is Their Product"
(Naomi Oreskes of Harvard later ripped off and popularized this theme!)
For example, a recent George Galloway show ran a viewer "poll" with a question that conflated the science and policy, so go back and watch that. Something like 90% of viewers said cliamte was a "hoax" and "scam". Jimmy Dore just yesterday broadcast an interview with a woman author who made veery, very similar claims.
Thank you. I've written a post based on the rip off 'Merchants of Doubt' book, I didn't realise there was an original, I shall read it.
And thank you for separating the science and the policy. No one wants to discuss the science. Over and over I will point to the science until eventually we get to 'climate is a scam to exert control and restrict our movements'. They have no scientific argument so they use a political one.
Yes the covid scam very much set the scene and wrote the script. Was this accidental? Or was it all part of the same. Create a pandemic hoax, to make lots of money for Pharma yes, but also to stir up a story of evil cartoon villains in Switzerland plotting to control our every move, stop us using oil or eating animals, and thus creating more demand for them and giving an easy get out of jail free card against any science on climate change and any suggestion of how to protect the environment (and restrict oil and animal ag profits); as being control by Klaus et al.
The science is still pure, even on covid, it's just that hardly anyone read it. And politicians made health policy with no scientific backing.
When looking into the original Fan Wu et al papers of 'a new coronavirus ASSOCIATED with respiratory disease' it's clear to see there was never any evidence for a new disease nor a new virus causing it.
I'd like to add additional beneficiaries of what you call "the script".
The demonization of the "lab leak theory" also provided cover and prevented any emergence of media coverage or a public debate on the bioweapons research issues and Fauci and NIH's role in reversing the moratorium on dangerous gain of fucntion research. The last time I really even a glimmer of light shone on those issues was the post 9/11 anthrax "terrorism" episodes, but that never really hit the mainstream and evaporated quickly.
I don't happen to think that GOF is dangerous I think it's lots of public money for a load of old tosh and allowing their mates to be paid to play with bat poo. I think it's all part of the virus narrative. The investigation into anthrax was carried out by a couple of postal workers, no disrespect, wasn't it?
Yeah, well said Bill. That same thinking is playing itself out across many areas at the minute - don’t like the policy response, so the thing itself must be bogus too.....
bill wolfe: Climate isn't a hoax. The "climate emergency" is a hoax. Please, get the terms right.
No one denies that the climate changes. We do deny that it is an emergency. Humans can no more change the climate and "save the Earth" than stop the tides. (See story of King Canute).
So science can be paid for and is paid for one way or another. Scientists are human, hopefully. So anything is possible and it's infantile to deny that.
As for climate change - no reasonable person can deny that, as it's always changing. There can never be a point at which it is static. And somehow, as it oscillates, it fails to identify its ideal point, stop, and fix itself on it.
Once again, you confuse and conflate fundamentals.
Science, qua science, is very different from the institutional housing and funding of the practice. Yes, you are correct that bias and corruption are induced from external forces, including institutions and funders. And money and careerism and politics may taint or corrupt the science. But those potential abuses are adequately checked by the scientific process itself, which relies on replication of results.
You have to look at multiple lines of evidence. With respect to climate science, the consensus is overwhelming. On many other issues, e.g. pharmaceutics, chemicals, et al, - not so much.
“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.
Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
― Michael Crichton
This is not to say that the consensus regarding climate change or anything else is necessarily wrong, but that "the consensus" is just another argument from authority.
Biggest error in the hierarchy fallacy normalization of thought is that volume alone denotes a truth.. A consensus of doctors thought blood letting was a settled science once.. 9 out of 10 doctors agreed..etc
The most successful test taker is only as good (or brain washed) as the test designer..
Its is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society JK
So unfortunately thew most "accredited" institution is still a status quo Establishment driven obedience training center. After the scamdmic and the way the entire world behaved i have lost all faith in ALL institutions especially the medical establishment that i see as nothing but a bunch of grifters profiting off human suffering at every turn... we think their "science" is at some pinnacle but its going to turn out to be as ridiculous as blood letting in the future (if we even get there with this bat shit fucking clown world)
Now that you mention it, I guess I wouldn't have a problem with peeing or shitting on things on Fiverr.
One problem is that people are encouraged to think in concrete-operational ("linear") terms: addition, subtraction, hierarchy, monocausality. They don't often think in formal-operational ("non-linear") terms: multiplication, compounding, combinations of linear and exponential processes, complex systems, multiple causes with distinguishable signals in the geological record, because they aren't taught advanced analysis so as to keep them obedient and dependent.
People who can entertain relatively complex causal chains in physical phenomena might come to a consensus on, for instance, the attribution of aggressive weather trends to an increase of input into the atmospheric heat engine that moves heat from the equator to the poles, and drags moisture and air with it.
All that is separate from the social and industrial capital interests that have offered their own narratives to the theater to create drama and passion for being ruled, which is the true purpose of politics.
I think the climate thing is deffo real. But I dislike how WEF etc and agenda 21/2030 are using it to make the lives of poor, old/ over 50s and the disabled a misery. Like I’ve met stop oil who think we should all opt to sue to save the planet for them , eugenicists by a different selfish route. It’s what the capitalists want . Gl hence the attacks and theft of the UK NHS and all it’s public assets and hiking all our bills up to bankrupt the public purse , services and councils , to kill us off. So they don’t have yo pay our pensions. It’s all manipulation. The narcissists only think of themselves, no austerity and climate vo side rations from the super rich private plane, heated pools, multiple homes and yachts types of people though is there. People just want basic comforts and security and it’s destroying the MH of millions as we are lead to serfdom and CBDC slavery or death. No wonder people are scared to create change to protect the climate. Things can and should change. But it should not be used as a capitalistic, kleptocratic, narcissists, eugenics, wet dream
Don't look up film was a deeply cynical clever attempt to pass the guilt and responsibility onto the little people to do something so they don't have to change a single Hollywood behavior..
FYI, I delivered this testimony over a decade ago, citing Michael's book:
"The bill would further the chemical industry’s strategy to manufacture uncertainty to block, delay, and weaken environmental and public health regulations – for an outstanding in depth analysis of how the chemical industry has distorted science, see Professor David Michael’s recent book Doubt is Their Product – How Industry’s Assault on Science Threatens Your Health. The book has numerous NJ specific examples, especially on chromium and the shameful history of Dupont, a major player in NJ."
Thank you Bill. I look forward to reading it. I already know a bit about how nutrition science has been deliberately distorted to create doubt around well established facts.
Well said, Caitlin. After reading this post, I now realize that I agree with you on all your viewpoints which further confirms why I am a dedicated reader of your Substack. I learn so much from you and your husband's revealing posts' here on this platform. I also follow you on Facebook and often share your posts there. Keep up the great work you're doing here. Cheers
I am a great believer in mentorship, apprenticeship, stewardship. These I believe are foundational to passing along skills, patience and wisdom to those wanting to learn. You might say I’m for a lot of “ships” and few or no “isms.” Fundamentalism, socialism, communism, capitalism, liberalism, conservatism. It seems to me, people can take anything with possible merit and turn it into an ism to the exclusion of all else, while extolling their pride in having done so. I could find something to ponder as a good from each of these isms and yet, as understood in our culture, I can’t affix my devotion to any one of them.
I believe Caitlin would affirm the words of Kierkegaard, "Once you label me, you negate me."
Nuclear is definitely an end game changer as well as bioweapon labs that lead to Global Medical Tyranny or the death of humanity. RFK, Jr.'s book The Real Anthony Fauci is researched and checked by 350 MD's and PhD's. Plandemic 2.0 is coming. We must stop all psychopaths in both fields of weapon proliferation/war and experimental medical drugs/toxic concoctions released.
It's truly astonishing that people are getting preprogrammed to buy into the belief that "going nuclear" isn't as bad as we have been lead to believe! This is scary beyond measure.
Not to mention Covid-19, but now that I've brought it up, it did strike me as odd that you avoid the subject and it still does. Of all the empire's lies, it appears (to me) that you've chosen to ignore the one that is by far the easiest to expose for the preemptive narrative inversion it is.
* All efforts to minimize or prevent the disease are dangerous, lockdowns and masks and vaccines are the real problem here, incidentally also for short term corporate profits
* The infection that is estimated to have killed the equivalent of Scandinavia and disabled up towards half a billion people is mild and the pandemic is over before it got started and especially since we stopped testing and tracking
Watch people eyes as you mention Covid and see them change the subject to incest or rape or anything less discomforting. Judging by the enormity of the taboo, many if not most are instinctively aware that an opressive regime has forced disease and death upon their families as a sacrifice to the economy, but they will never admit this — even to themselves — because we remain locked in this initial "stages if grief" called denial.
Unlock this and we advance to anger. For now at least, the agression remains misdirected towards anyone wearing a mask. But there is real potential here.
Or that is at least what I have managed to gather from "following the science" to the best of my ability, that we have overlooked a huge shortcut to overthrow capitalism and all that by exposing to folks that their kids are not OK because governments have conspired to save the money for tax cuts. This is not happening to those people, it is happening to you, so how healthy do you really feel and what are you gonna do about it?
Masks aren't a problem except for the middle class who wants to signal their wealth through their ability to aford orthodontia. In fact, respirators are one of the few measures that actually stops transmission.
I pretty much feel as you do. Id be Interested to know your views on how disabled & Neurodivergent and older people who are vulnerable are being silenced both in life and social media and with services etc.
I went to donate to a cat sanctuary in the US and linktr.ee and was told I wasn’t excepted due to security so I really must be upsetting the right people. Shame for furball farm farm cat sanctuary who have lost my donation and paver because of this website and security issue 🤣🤣.
I’m in England the disabled are being targeted from all angles. It’s almost like we don’t exist n the world of activism and even virtue signalling memes. The media won’t publish our stories. 15% excess deaths in the UK. The rich are culling us for sustainable development. Instead of redesigning the system to include us all they want to be rid of the old and disabled. They gaslight us to death and suicide, deny us healthcare we paid into and continue polluting our planet.
Look into investors, shareholders of the top 2000 corporations and mezzo capitalism they are parasites. The kill our spirit, the planet, nature and feed off us every way possible. They are the investor shareholder class who are causes and or are complicit to all the problems the planet faces. Their greed and power is the problem not the old and disabled. But we are blamed for everything.
First they use us working classes then they discard us after taking our money. We paid into tax and NI and pensions. I’m 54 soon I’m disabled now. I’m trolled on social media 24:7 then banned. Meta and their ilk are deliberately torturing and allowing the bullying of the disabled. The have no policies to protect us . We suffer mh slurs, and when we get stressed they shut our accounts down or ban us for silly things. I posted white cat hairs in my lap which was fully clothed in a silly chat about cats and housework . Fb banned me stating it as sexual. I called a man a boy who was bullying foodbank users and addressed me as girl when I’m an adult woman, I warned him I’d call him a boy if he didn’t stop., he didn’t, so I called him boy then he reported. I got a two week ban purely for calling a man a boy who called a woman a girl. Pure sexism. the autism groups don’t let us speak . We have no freedom of speech no autonomy, there’s always some middle class wanna be trying to be our voices becaus they got a degeee, im autodidactic the normal learning system failed me. I’m targeted and discriminated on because I am neuro divergent
I’m trying to show people their reality and future but I get trolled by petty A1, bots and people who chose apathy and ignorance. I’m discredited and bullied in my real life re services. I have ended up attempting suicide. I liked eternal oblivion. I liked nothingness. No judgement, no pain, no seeing the wars/ suffering and ignorance. No feeling deep seated righteous rage. No worrying about nuclear war, no invalidation, no memories of a destroyed Bosnia destroyed by manipulation and hate. It was good not existing and or remembering or feeling for 36 hours.
I have experienced their cia Myrotvorets crap when I set up the “stop the 3rd world war group”. They targe everything I post either personally bots and manipulate dog poles use my disability against me.
I experienced the privatisation of the NHS and destruction of care via burnt out underpaid staff and I worked in it as an auxiliary nurse.
see it all from top to almost the bottom. I’m not wealthy but I could be poorer Ie a refugee, a homeless person ( which I think is my future) I have to survive 13 years to my pension. They are collapsing UK deindustrialising us and getting us workers to attack each other. If you ever read Stephen kings horror books “Delores Claiborne” and “Needful full things” that’s pretty much how they function these divide and rulers. In a silenced world we cannot fight it. The end is nigh. But the wrong uns will survive it. I’m looking forward to eternal oblivion. I don’t like being a seer or empath. It hurts so bad inside not to stop the narcissistic gaslighting dark triads when we are at the near bottom of the pile of humanity they see as useless eaters. They only see us as useful in terms of capitalising. Producer labour and buyer. They call us the value, the heard and the stock. They are the evil of greed and destruction. And all the enablers are just as bad. The ones who oppress others to do their money masters bidding, the ones who judge the ones who frustrate. I see it all. Autistic adhders see patterns. Thankyou for speaking truths
So Han takes my posts and points out of context, no one took the time to actually fully read it. My point is death is death weather nuclear or the disabled being systemically bullied to the point that they are suicide as an only out. It’s all relevant because we are all in a war. I basically was agreeing with Caitlin but I do think social issues deeply matter everything is connected and if you all read my post properly you will see it’s down to uncontrolled and mezzanine capitalists by the likes of black rock, Blackstone and vanguard who own all the mechanisms and war machine in various ways. They own the world they play us like pawns. Dying of nuclear war or suicide due to depression is the same war mongers creating it. They have more wealth than countries some of the investor shareholder class, they know everything as they own shares in all the powerful corporations. A death is a death either forced suicide due to misery or someone pressing the big button. We are all humans. I’m a human not a social issue or problem. Where is my voice. Ah shut down again
I like Caitlin but it’s pretty clear that social justice issues don’t matter to her. I don’t know how she can call herself a true leftist while trivializing and ignoring social justice issues and writing them off as merely distractions when they’re one of the huge barriers preventing class consciousness
Sure that's one way you can choose to deliberately misinterpret the words "I oppose racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and discrimination against disempowered groups of all sorts. These are real problems that do need to be solved as humanity winds its way into the future; we can’t just ignore them."
Oh christ please don't tell people to kill themselves in the comments of my blog. I can't believe I have to say this. I won't give you another warning.
Hi! Welcome to Substack! This website has a "feature" unusual in social media: it is set by default to notify you of *sibling* replies (others' responses to comments you've replied to).
I can only speak for myself, but I avoid calling myself a "leftist", true or otherwise, or anything else, as such categorization short circuits critical thinking. It's another thought terminating cliche.
"If we all go up in a mushroom cloud, at least we had pronouns." doesn't seem like much of a desirable outcome.
Real leftists are conversant with Marx. You are a capitalist performing manipulative emotional gesticulations to bully people into recognizing your feelings as truth. Log off and call your provider immediately.
Come now Han, there’s a big world of difference between acknowledging that those real issues have been co-opted by the powerful to serve their agenda and not being on board with the issues at all.
I abhor racism, but i thought the entire BLM movement was misguided, headless and ultimately a fruitless bunch of noise that resulted in some new houses and several million into the democratic party. You know, the ones that have actively taken part in and supported policies which impact the black, brown and asian communities disproportionately.... so whilst i cheer those core issues on, if someone is simply arguing for their place at the table, the table whose radical changing is essential for our survival, well.... it just seems so pointless to me, sorry.
“Hey, i want my space on the march to extinction too”
“Shall we avoid extinction instead?”
“Why are you not supporting my rights....?”
“Well, i do, totally and unconditionally but there’s like all this starvation, brutal wars, ecological collapse, possible nuclear war shit, that well, god dam it, just appears a little more pressing right at this point, and as such, needs more of my neurons and oxygen”.
I find the progressive leftists to be willfully naive about social justice issues and their use by the propaganda machine to manipulate, coerce and direct them to do what the establishment wants. War against Russia has been defined as a social justice issue and many leftists buy into all of it, basically becoming social war hawks.
Can anything be as obvious, when an entire class has been manipulated into supporting a heinous war based on the lies of social justice.
Social justice in all ts forms is nothing but a tool to drive a wedge between citizens cohorts to the benefit of the establishment.
I know that the dems/shitlibs use social justice issues as a distraction from the US war machine. I know that they don’t actually care about Ukrainians and I know we started that war. You’ll never see a Ukrainian flag anywhere on my profile (I also happen to be half Russian.)
To say that social justice in all its forms is a distraction is to say that these issues don’t matter. When I say social justice issues I’m not referring to Ukraine I’m referring to racism, transphobia and so on. These issues don’t truly matter to liberals beyond self-righteous indignation, but they matter to me because I know a FUCK TON about social justice issues throughout history. Like for example how unions brought black people into the working class. Or how even closeted gay people couldn’t join the military until 1993. Or how black people led most of the fights for social justice activism all throughout history, not just winning rights for themselves but also getting better pay for women, empowering people to embrace their sexuality and more.
These issues dont matter to dems which is why they aren’t real leftists and neither are you. Class solidarity should be wholly inclusive and these issues are just as important as those pertaining to foreign policy. Not to mention the fact that slavery still exists in the US today.
So next time you run your mouth.. do everyone a favor and eat a jar for of thumbtacks.
I guess those long standing black societies all over the world were to dumb to know about classes, middle, upper, lower or otherwise ? How ignorant you are of the greater world.
Slavery has always existed in every society. The Arab societies were enslaving white Europeans before America was founded. The Japanese enslaved the Chinese. Navajo were enslaving the Arapaho long before white men walked on this continent.
How typical that your idea of social justice is completely based in the establishment propaganda you have been fed your entire life. This was the entire point of my comment, that social justice issues come from people who believe the propaganda because it feels good.
Weber's theory of classes is not the only one, nor is it particularly useful except as a blueprint for bringing about what it claims to exist, i.e. a myth.
Sowell is a neoliberal ideologue, and therefore a liar, and therefore a waste of food.
Establishment propaganda huh? Pretty lazy way of arguing with someone who you disagree with and know significantly less than. America is one of the only countries that has yet to evolve from slavery, the fact that slavery exists here today still and your examples are hundreds and thousands of years old proves what a complete moron you are.
Not to mention the fact that you just proved how slavery predates capitalism. Ergo it’s not a result of capitalism which means that the class war and culture war are interconnected. Thus disproving your whole argument. Now go blow your brains out.
You are not fighting the losing battle it may seem like as these responses gang up on you. Console yourself by knowing that these are probably kneejerk reactions from people afraid to look at their own privilege, because few of these responses are anything more than name calling. No real debate. It may be like what Caitlin says about talking about feminism—she doesn’t because the outraged hysteria that it causes isn’t worth it to her. I personally find your point of view refreshing, even tho I too was a knee jerk! 🤗
Thank you and you’re right. Don’t worry it’s okay, I appreciate you taking the time to hear me out. I can understand caitlins POV on feminism because even I don’t agree with a couple facets of feminism. Sex work, while it should be legal I think the idea of consent being bought is repulsive. Like that would literally be rape If money wasnt involved so I don’t think sex work is empowering for women at all. I also don’t hate men. So I can understand why she wouldn’t really want to talk about that.
But racism, trans rights, black socialist history etc are all things I believe she should be voicing her opinion on. Especially since you can only repurpose the same sentiment so many times before it gets a little stale. We know the US is evil and morally corrupt. We know about the genocide and torture and war. We know capitalism only benefits society’s worst people. I agree with her on these issues but if she’s afraid to speak out on other ones for fear of backlash she might as well go get a deal with The Atlantic. The point of being an independent journalist is that you should be able to talk about whatever you want. I think because her base is slowly devolving into the all lives matter crowd she doesn’t wanna piss them off
And again, I will shout this from the fucking rooftops: just because social justice movements have been hijacked by shitlibs for the sake of self-righteous indignation does NOT mean they’re not important issues.
Stop thinking you have to choose between starvation, brutal wars, ecological collapse, possible nuclear war shit versus trans rights and black people. ALL OF THESE ISSUES CAN AND SHOULD MATTER EVEN IF THE LIBTARDS DONT ACTUALLY GIVE A SHIT. WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM. LETS ACT LIKE IT. These issues are NOT pointless when we still have fucking slavery in America.
Social justice problems have been around as long as society has been. The naivety of the progressives is thinking that some magic bullet has been discovered that is going to change human nature so deeply that hatred will be eliminated from the earth. It is nearly as silly as the good guy/bad guy narrative sold to the public. Slavery exists worldwide and has in every culture, every society throughout history. I refer back to my magic bullet statement, show me how your solution changes human nature ?
Slavery definitely never existed in Cuba or North Korea. I don’t think there’s some magic bullet and my solution doesn’t change human nature because you’re still an asshole. I can’t do magic.. I cant force you to care about social justice issues or make you any less stupid than you are. I can only hope that someday you evolve or take your own life
You can't please everyone. I agree with much of what you have to say but more than that it appears we have somewhat lost the ability to read the heart. Ultimately, the most important in my view. Though i have been mistaken, yours appears to be in the right space.......which means you are available to re-adjust your views according to more data, intuition, what-have-you.....thanks for your hard work.
Well, this piece has sure prompted comments that demonstrate why we're never going to be in unison against the Global Central Banking Cabal. Good luck to us!!
To start, dissociate from them and ignore them as much as possible. We had a prime opportunity to do that at the onset of all of the "COVID" horseshit, but people still believe that's all real. Had people not worn masks, ignored any and every mandate, then we wouldn't be where we are now, societally.
Does that address the Central Bankers? No, not directly, but it reveals how entirely out of touch we are with the reality of what's really going on in the world, how it's really controlled, and who really controls it.
It doesn't matter "how I would have anyone fight against the GCBC. I didn't wear a mask and ignored everything else, From what I could tell at the time I was the only one or one of the very few doing so and I took a rash for it no matter how pleasant or polite I was to people. My warnings to friends, family, acuaintances went mocked and unheeded.
Again, this tells me that people are clueless, and that includes most of the so-called awake too.
People from the "awake" crowd that I know, their kids too, pay to see the crap that Hollywood puts out. We're still religiously tied up in sports in this country. People en masse are still naive, gullible, and ignorant enough to really think that (s)elections, which have been (s)elections for decades and in turbo since electronic voting machines came into being, really matter.
If we can't get past those simple little things in understanding, nothing else matters. Those are merely weak symptoms.
People are too motivated by fear (understandably) and greed (which is where I take primary issue), and we're talking about the people most positioned to be able to make the kind of difference that needs to be made.
It's a complex topic. My original comment that you seemingly condescendingly responded to, implicitly pointed out the disunity that exists due to the grand demoralization that has permeated our society, all of western civilization for all intents and purposes.
I could write a lenghty book on the answer to your question and it would still leave room for more.
At the end of the day it requires people to A, understand what's really going on at the global level, but we can't even get past the simple and most damaging narratives that we've been propagandized with. So many of the so-called "awake" still think that a handful of muslims did 9-11. We're royally screwed if we cannot understand that the Central Banking Cabal is behind ALL of it at the top-most levels, including the Boston Bombing, Vegas, PULSE, etc., etc., etc. The same people that pulled that off did "Covid."
Both have worked marvelously to their favor. And while we're bickering over "holding those accountable ...," they're laughing at us and moving on with the next phase while we're foolishly seeking justice in a system that THEY control, when we could be doing more to ready ourselves to the next onslaught, which will be tied to CBDCs.
... and B, it requires people to be prepared to give up everything that they've attained in this filthy, rotten, satanic, immoral financial and Central Banking SYSTEM.
So allow me to ask, are YOU prepared to sacrifice all that you've attained financially in order to forge the way for your, your childrens', and their childrens' future liberty? This includes retirement monies, investments (in THEIR network of corporations created to control us), savings, etc., and to start over in a "real" economy?
Most are clinging to their wealth/mammon. There are many outlets, institutions, people whose ENTIRE focus it is to help people "protect their wealth" as if that wealth is the apple of their eye. In most cases it is.
It's deeper than those things, but that's the start of it for us. Aka, it's not going to happen because we're too greedy. We're soft, no longer understand what real work is.
Life is not about money & wealth. But in our western world, we've made it so that is. Consumerism and seeking of pleasure dominates our culture these days, sort of like drug addiction.
Anyway, I was simply amused at the trivial animosities that arose with this post by Caitlyn.
Are you really finding it so difficult to imagine the narrative that the US government released an actually dangerous bioweapon and knows more than you do about what *could* have happened? Notice how both political theologies create dramatic lies, both calculated to lead away from this fact.
If that's true then it was ineffective. "Covid" killed no one.
I would turn those statements around back to you.
If they really wanted to foment a disease they easily could have done so. All of this lab crap is just that, crap. While those labs do exist and have for decades anyway, it had little if anything to do with the PSYOP involved.
It was all theoretical, they're even told us this now. Gotta read more.
I'm finished with it all. People aren't in the proper moral frame of mind these days to turn to what will save them and away from what's harming them. It's astonishing in fact.
We're simply going to have to learn the hard way. Unfortunately, that "hard way" is going to have dire and deadly consequences for many.
And BTW, for whatever "lab grown disease" you think they actually came up with, the "solutions" to it, namely Injections (TM) and Boosters, are what is doing all the killing, maiming, and causing the cancers and other ailments, putting the ailments from whatever you think they created into the "sniffles" category at worst.
As to "imagining tht the US Government did anything," no, no hardship at all. It's clear that the entirety of the US Government is controlled by the sons of hell, with most of the top leadership positions held by people that have citizenship of a single other nation. It's beyond clear that the Babylonian Talmudist Bolsheviks own and control our government, just as they've told us for half a century now, along with all of the other major institutions in our society: Finance, Law, "Entertainment"/Hollywood, "Education," etc.
Our US Government is anti-Christian to the core. The irony is that so many people claiming to be "Christian" work for those things and derive their means of existence from them.
This sounds like an emotional belief, which is almost certainly false. Having actually caught it and having had lasting effects likely attributable to it (mechanistically), I refute you thus.
>If they really wanted to foment a disease they easily could have done so
This is a god narrative, which is heroic, mythical, and frankly childish. Bioscience is still limited by the rate at which human technology can produce genes and splice them into place, test the predictions of the products' performance in animals, isolate any promising natural mutants for further development, etc. There have been reports in the literature of chronic epithelial disease secondary to COVID which both parties' media machines have been covering up, and there are mechanistic explanations for a permanent depletion of the body's anticancer immune cells by SARS-CoV-2 which is already starting to come home to roost in the form of blood cancers.
Also, different degrees of contagion suit the variety of strategic purposes such weapons would be employed for. Coronavirus contagion and non-pharmaceutical intervention are well researched, and it is well known that wounded are more costly to impose on an adversary than kills. Such insidious medium or long-term effects could be desirable for a bioweapon strategy: lock down the borders of the target country, let the food stores run out and their immune systems weaken, and the vast majority of them will die or be unable to keep their division of labor up. Drone surveillance and cheap FPV weapons take out anyone making a run for the border, hold for 2-3 more months until any remaining coronavirus has died, bombard the place with "safe and effective" antiviral Agent Orange, and voilà, free stuff for the taking.
>While those labs do exist and have for decades anyway, it had little if anything to do with the PSYOP involved.
The disease and the psyop were both real. Both parties and their equivalents in other countries had their role in creating interlocking narratives that led away from the lab leak narrative, and for strategically trading that narrative off between themselves as it became geopolitcally convenient.
There are actual business receipts for development of products, of SARS-CoV-2's very kind, commissioned under US public-private auspices at the very lab it was said to have leaked from, dude. Do libertarians not believe in contracts as truth anymore?
A note on masks. Cochrane distanced themselves from Conly's briefly celebrated meta-review, stating that Conly made conclusions unsupported by the evidence. His trick was to count conditions where respirator use was optional or unenforced under the intervention arm rather than the control arm, treating a contagious airborne virion reproduced and emitted by humans and other mammals as if it were a simple nuisance you cough up later and don't pass along to others.
Those studies that accounted for diligence of mask use in indoor environments showed a clear reduction in contagion under diligent use conditions, bolstering the mechanistic explanation of atomic-scale effects of filtration which we have profitably and commercially exploited in other industrial endeavors all day and every day. So you don't get to magically suspend the principles of physics and engineering and market values for your heroic feats of self-delusion.
"This sounds like an emotional belief, which is almost certainly false. Having actually caught it and having had lasting effects likely attributable to it (mechanistically), I refute you thus."
37: Thanks for the reply. We are in agreement. I was just hoping you had a concrete way to wake people up to the Global Banking Cabal. I always tell people to read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" or "Economic Hitman".
People are still naive, gullible, and ignorant. Indeed.
Knowledge and courage would help fight the monsters but knowledge and courage are in short supply.
Congrats on not wearing a mask etc. I was forced to wear one in the hospital when I smashed my hip. I was in no condition to resist the buggers.
I was not being condescending to you. I was hoping you had an idea.
PS: Did you pick "37" as your avatar because that was "Cool Hand Luke's" prisoner number?
I mention things to educate all the time. I personally have been studying this for decades, the internet has really made it incredibly more efficient and productive. I began from whence I was a Dispensationalist-fundie, but what I was taught about Scripture did not add up. So in discovering that it was wrong, and yet another inroad by our moral and mortal enemy, into "christianity," and mitigated the reality of who Christ really is, I discovered who was really behind it all, namely the Babylonian Talmudist Bolsheviks, the ones that Jesus referred to directly in Matt. 23 for example.
But in providing varying materials and sources as to how they pull these things off, I've found that people asking for them, "don't have time." But the messages are sent when I hear loud and clear that they "didn't have time to watch a simple hour-long video" on the topics that you mention for example, but when I read on facebook for that they binge-watched some mindless season of a TV series over that weekend. OK, ... priorities.
As I mentioned above, consumerism and pleasure are our main goals. We only typically complain when those are disrupted. Or our precious wealth is threatened.
This is what happens when people work lifelong towards the goal of wealth accumulation. They won't relinquish it even if their very permanent liberty is threatened. They're like these monkeys ...
We had an opportunity to let it all collapse during the Recession of 2008 "Too Big to Fail", which was spawned by them, the perps. But once again we opted for mammon uber alles.
As much as I'd like to think that there's truly a solution, I don't see one, again, primarily for the very reason implied by my original comment. People are far too divided on superficial issues to even begin to approach the core issues. Again, while we're still foolishly trying to "get justice" (again, in a system controlled by those we're trying to get 'justice' over), they're well into the planning phase of their next horror show, which is going to be many times worse than this simplistic charade that was the mythical "Covid."
Just wait to see what the fear that's spawned does to people. What the most interesting, to me anyway, is how people claiming to be Christian actually react. If the behavior of those that run our church-buildings (notice I didn't say "church") are any indication, they'll feed right into the anti-Christ narratives and the sheep in those social organizations will follow right along.
The best chance that we had to wrest ourselves free from the Global Beast was in 2008. We made our choice.
37: I agree with all you say in your comment. It seems a hopeless task to fight for liberty and the teachings of Christ but we have to try.
I retired at 56 (15 years ago) and have had the time and inclination to go down all the rabbit holes, read the books, watch the videos, read the articles... but as you point out, most people don't have the time or the inclination or both.
Some say a determined minority can change things. They have in the past. Look at today. A small minority is pushing this Woke crap and succeeding.
I've had my own business for over 20 years, and this crap over the past three-plus years put the kibosh on it and left me high-and-dry. I was already still trying to recover from the 2008 one which wiped me out back then leaving me to start over. Longer story there, but by then I had three small kids and it was difficult. Point being, even with all that work, I still did a substsantial amount of research. As I tell people, I probably spent 3-5 hours/week back then reading "stuff," but over the past three it's been an never-ending deluge.
I finally stopped reading just about everything earlier this year. So many of "the awake" are caught up in the BS of (s)elections, lawsuits, media, etc., and they don't realize that those are the things that the perps want us caught up in.
It's so frustrating. When this all began I called it out immediately and tried to begin warning people, but almost no one would listen. I began telling people fairly early on that this would be the only "virus" in human history that could only be cured by a never-ending string of government approved Injections.
Then as the facts started to emerge, people I'd tried to warn all acted as if they were on the vanguard of defense in this entire thing.
I'm so worn out by it all. Similar to how women are now PO'd that men are competing as women, when I began calling out the women's movement subversion and homo agenda and they're the ones that supported that. So to me it's karma, let them fight that battle now. I tried and they would have none of it. Same for the people just coming up to speed on this crap over the past year or two. They can fight it now.
I see no point unless the heart of the beast is attacked, and we're far from doing that. We can't even identify the perps that have polluted our government and societal institutions without being call anti-semites, and while overstepping the definition of "semite" in that way on top of it.
BTW, I see that I did not fully answer your questions from the post earlier.
37, yes, very astute!! You're the first one that caught that.
And you're absolutely right, knowledge and courage ARE in short supply. Except when singing the national anthem of course, or bombing other countries from afar. Hawkeye in M*A*S*H once said, "War, America's favorite spectator sport." He was right. When we get a dose of our own medicine however, ironically from the same element that's doing it worldwide, see my comment above, then WE don't like it.
As to the mask in the hospital, I wouldn't worry about that at all, fully undestandable. Medical staff driven by the controlled AMA are too stupid a/o gullible to realize that they're the enemy. They really think that they're on the good side. Re: Your comment about "knowledge" above.
My family is under instructions that if anything serious happens to me, to put me in my own bed and let me die in peace. LOL
I will never wear a mask. I must obey God, not man. I'm far from sinless, but when I go out I plan on at least being faithful there. I'll leave it in God's hands after that resting on the work of Christ.
As to solutions, no, unfortunately not. I had some hope when people started to sort of figure things out, but then when I read the solutions put forth by the so-called "awake," I'm left shaking my head and telling myself that at the next horrific scare, and it will be far worse than the last one in every likelihood with people fighting over the most basic of needs to start, those same people will cave in to CBDCs and whatever else the enemy has in store for them.
We're a nation of "tough guys" until it's really time to put the wheels to the road, then we're cowards. AKA, there's nothing like seeing a Compensator Pick-Up Truck with a Gadsen Flag decal on the back, and a mask hanging off of the rear-view mirror.
I'm simply taking every day as it comes, and reminding myself that if my faith in Christ is real, then our term on this life insofar as pleasures, comforts, and conveniences go, is negligible. Our "christian" society, the westernized version anyway, has made it plausible to worship both God and mammon when Jesus said it was impossible. It's made things abhorent to God perfectly allowable. Tragic.
I wish I had more positive to offer. Only God/Christ offer that. LOL
This all sounds entirely reasonable with a cogent set of reasons why you’ve arrived at these stances and it’s surprising that this set of ideas would be and are labelled fringe. When in fact they are not at all fringe. It’s highly probable billions of people would agree with all these positions yet we’re totally atomized by the empire apparatchiks when it comes to confronting them in truly representative numbers. The Neoliberals have done a masterful job at rolling up the narrative to suit their agenda and it would probably be prudent to begin the discussion of “how” this Neoliberal machine can be dismantled in a systematic fashion as it’s been shown clearly the electoral process is incapable of actual effective reconstructions. Would love to hear more thoughts on this topic.
First, enough people have to recognise what it is, in order to aid in the deconstruction. Attempts to deconstruct it before that will just fail.
But i suspect change will then happen in patches - similar, but not necessarily related, pushes to move things like farming, community resource ownership etc away from the locust capitalist to more sustainable local models.
As these become more prevalent, they will begin more and more related movements. So i think the deconstruction will actually be the building of alternatives that work better - but they can only survive if enough see the locust for what it is. And when we do, we can watch it slowly crumble, wiping honest sweat from the brow during a glowing orange sunset, at the end of a day spent constructing something much more beautiful.
For me 'covid' was important as I knew instinctively from the start that it was scam to make us take their horrible vaccine, that they were bound to be making, so it forced me to open my eyes and look into the cess pit of organised crime also know as the power couple of government regulation and the pharmaceutical industry.
I think we're causing global warming too but you're right, Caitlin, it is very quiet about species extinction, loss of pollinators, pesticides, empty oceans etc it's all net zero and everything will be OK. It won't.
You are absolutely wrong in your ideas about Covid. It was NOT a scam to create a vaccine to prevent mass death. If you don't believe in science, I have to question your ability to think rationally. As I have mentioned elsewhere, the pharmaceutical industry is not the same as the scientists working to save our lives. To conflate the two is inexcusable ignorance.
They are not my ideas. I am a scientist. I absolutely believe in science. I believe I am working to save lives from the belief that pharmaceuticals are necessary. There is no evidence that the common symptoms of fever, dizziness, chest tightness, pain, weakness and a cough in 7 patients in heavily polluted Wuhan represented a new disease. No scientific evidence was ever shown that the sequences of RNA chosen from one patient sample were an entity nor that the entity could cause disease in animals or people. https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/seeing-is-believing
Carolyn: PS: If the vaccine prevented mass death, then why did the least vaccinated continent on Earth, Africa, have the lowest death count from Covid (or whatever it was)?
Andrea Cherez: The only theory I've read on why Africa had very little Covid is that the people there take HCQ (Hydroxychloroquine) every week to prevent River Blindness. The Africans call it "The Sunday Pill."
It could also be the climate in Africa and the fact that most people there spend a lot of time outside.
Carolyn L Zaremba: The vaccine did not prevent mass death. You can't prove a negative. As for believing in "science", that is an oxymoron. Science is always evolving. Science is about questioning beliefs in search for the truth.
A lot of agreement, areas of disagreement. A big difference in understanding comes in how we characterize the role of the US in the world, vis-a-vis China and other nations that may challenge US interests and that align with it.
China officially describes their form of government today as "Socialism with Chinese characteristics." Implying that other nations practice socialism with their own characteristics. This description synchronizes nicely with the WEF's Great Reset concept of seven regional powers instead of US hegemony. With the intention that by 2030 the US will officially describe itself as being governed as "Socialism with American characteristics." EU = "Socialism with European characteristics, etc.
Each regional power delegated global responsibilities. China & Asia are the manufacturing hub. The US is the global police and propaganda hub. The other regions assigned their own lanes of responsibility. All working together for an efficient global society. Led by multinational corporate efficiencies in production and profit. That's the public billing of it, anyways.
The reality lies in the private understanding between the nations. We must come to understand that every single nation on earth today is run by organized crime families. Chinese family dynasty governance historically was organized family crime rackets under modern definitions. Mao's communist revolution provided the ideological cover to legitimize organized family crime under the pretense of government instead of dynastic. The most powerful crime families from the different provinces come together in their politburo where they divvy up the spoils of their government-legitimized racketeering. This structure avoids the bloody wars between criminal family operations that would historically plague China.
AND... the US has the same exact governing structure today. It is run by organized crime families. Some family names known from politics, some from business, some from banking. But all of them would be considered organized crime families racketeering if they didn't possess the honorific titles and control of police, prosecutors and courts, as well as the media. The US Congress functioning as the Chinese Politburo does, divvying up the spoils from their racketeering. Protected. Unaccountable. Unless they break an oath to the system they've constructed: Don't talk about Fight Club.
Very much like the Mafia. Organized crime, arm-in-arm with the entire system of government at their disposal. Impossible to distinguish between criminal family and political, corporate family. All-one. I submit to you and all for your consideration that the world is being run by criminals in a manner very similar to the National Crime Syndicate, the Commission, as exemplified in the Apalachin Meeting, and its various cinematic portrayals like in The Godfather, Goodfellas, Analyze This and others. This, the Apalachin Meeting of crime families divvying up the loot from their criminal rackets is probably the closest approximation to what our local, state, federal and international governance is like:
Crime families. The US Senate, leadership, House, Leadership, President's, Justice's, business leaders, the system providing a useful facade of legitimacy to divvy up the loot and spoils of national and global criminal rackets. Gangsters wearing nice suits, given titles like "The Honorable" that are completely undeserved. This is how global realpolitik is run. The Bush Family Crime Syndicate. The Clinton Family Crime Syndicate. The Biden Family Crime Syndicate. The Cheney Family Crime Syndicate. The Rockefeller Family Crime Syndicate. The Carnegie Family Crime Syndicate. The Windsor Family Crime Syndicate. The Thyssen Family Crime Syndicate. A nation and world full of family crime syndicates that operate under a Commission-style set of rules. European nations. African nations. Asian nations. Latin American nations. Pacific Islander nations. Middle Eastern nations. All. Exactly the same structures. All criminal crime family enterprises. Multinational corporations the economic driver of profits to be skimmed. Government tax receipts the protection money skimmed.
They bring in the most insane, the most criminal element of underlings as apparatchiks to run the bureaucracy, grateful and loyal for the opportunity, but not too bright so they won't become a threat or stray. And for any who do, the dead fish in a box on a doorstep is usually enough to get their attention and cease and desist from thinking for themselves:
And the US's role as global policeman is by design. Not to serve the US empire. To serve the globalist empire. Which includes China. And Russia. Even war between nations are by design. Lots of money is made on war. Like the Rockefeller, Bush, Windsor and Thyssen crime families made on both sides during WWII. I believe targeting the US as the biggest global villain misses the target. The US was cast in that role by the Globalists, in the same way China was cast in the global manufacturing role.
When enough of us realize this is who is running the world and how they are running the world it will all make sense. And our shared human experience will be markedly improved. We cannot defeat a foe we cannot imagine, see or believe exists. We are ruled by organized crime family syndicates. Top to bottom. Nations are false constructs under this understanding of the real world. "Socialism with Chinese/US/etc characteristics" the giveaway.
Brilliant. How did you arrive at this template? Would be interesting to see more substack writers lay this out.
“Wouldn’t put anything past these people” sums up a lot of recent history.
Indeed. 9/11 was the catalyst. After that, the elites knew we were a nation of sheep. Caitlin is a good shepherd, trying to lead the benighted and befuddled back to rational thought. Good on her.
I am still waiting for people to realize, that now that they know they are being lied to about the safety of the jabs, the origin of the virus and the corrupted scientific "debate", that they would also realize that, hang on, we have heard this whole spiel before!
For starters: No one really has read NIST's NCSTAR1, page 82, footnote 13, which I encourage people to do (always read the source for yourself!), or subsequently has looked into the "science" behind the collapse, being provided two days after the event, years before the data gathering by FEMA and NIST was done. If you have not heard a debate about it, remember what you have heard about: all those conspiracy lunatics, that were raising questions about the official narrative. Sounds familiar? Here is a summary of the points that should be debated in scientific circles, but aren't. https://archive.org/details/summary-nist-wtc-problems-combined
Also if you understand German I would recommend the 2 1/2 hour talk by Dr. Ansgar Schneider. A couple of years ago, I would have been able to present you with a youtube link and there you could have chosen automatically generated subtitles, but that video has been taken down after receiving too much attention. So here is a link to the German version: https://odysee.com/@Melechkatan:6/Ansgar_Schneider_ueber_Wissenschaft_und_gesellschaftliche_Leugnung:2 really interesting are the parts of the talk where he takes a look at the Media response and the "debate" in scientific circles.
It shouldn't even be remarkable that a society whose fundamental metaphor is the theater would enact mythical spectacles and fake plots in support of the continuing existence of high drama. The technical details of the WTC event are almost a distraction, as the moral theories that drive the investigation (individual responsibility, accountabiilty, emotional performativity) are false.
Stinky: You always amaze me how you can write long comments that says nothing. It's a gift. You should have gone into politics.
All I said was that you're a whiny ass bitch and everyone within 10 meters of you should count their rings and secure their children.
Among his responsibilities is to ensure all words in world dictionaries are touched in one way or another. So even if counts for rare words stay low, at least their access times are kept up-to-date.
russian_ bot: As usual I don't know what the hell you are talking about.
But he does, which is what's important for the task of preserving word heritage. He does ideas too.
Btw, good you're back as I never believed you'd retire from the forum. Your style of prefixing responses with addressee name was being missed as it provides structure as well as disambiguates the target.
Very much agree, we should have a forum for position pieces and rebuttals.
I can't think of a somewhat public figure that I'm in more agreement with. Thanks!
Why limit it to US intelligence agencies? I'd scatter their wholly owned foreign subsidiaries as well.
True it’s globally organised kleptocratic investor shareholder uncontrolled capitalist and sometimes communist hegemonic class of all nations, the oligarchs and mafioso types for whom enough is never enough. We gave them the power. They destroy everything and now we cannot stop it.
They're only communist among themselves. But that's true for ALL ruling classes, with the possible exception of Josef Stalin who is hated by Westoids because he walked the talk and had a commie block apartment same as every other worker.
Westtoid, I’m in the west. I’m a lennonist apparently ( before I knew what one was) 🤣🤣, but me I’m just a human seeking humanity. I’m pretty sure this crap isn’t just going on in the west. Not saying the west is exactly good saintly or nice given empire but crap happens everywhere. The global establishment are from all places, I live in a 1 bed flat. I get called a tramp, spacca idiot and retard by many. It’s quite sad that humans prefer to destroy each other and their own habitat and ecology. And some think they are more equal isn’t it. Racism/ableism and all the other stuff that is done to divide, rule and destroy happens all over, it’s not just the west. I consider myself a true socialist. But there are plenty of fake ones in it. Human condition is self destruction, parasitism,self flagellation, hard to see the hood because of the harm. Some of the kind west people are labelled what they aren’t and some of the most selfish vain narcissists pretend they are good but are real devils and manipulators. I’m depressed. I lived in a matrix and it took me 40 years to see it. I knew life was wrong, but when we are working ourselves to death and only valued if it is paid work by society and community but free labour , caring for others is simply not valued. We are too distracted to see. Most of my life was married by abuse and ignorance and misdiagnosis. It’s only when we are disabled we start having time to work out what is happening . When they have used us for appitance and profited from our pain and low so called status of working class. Only the established benefit from the BS neoliberalism , opportunism and colonialism. Instead of countries empire powers are corporate investor gangster individuals pulling puppet strings. And it’s not just the west. It’s everywhere.
It is everywhere, but Plato of Athens was patient zero. The historical path of his ideology can be traced through imperial Rome (via Plotinus and Aurelius) into the new imperial religion Christianity, thence via force all across Asia Minor and Europe, eventually being printed (and somehow still taken seriously by readers), inspiring Reformed theology by Calvin and Luther, hitching a ride on the English Puritans and its colonies, and thence broadcast to the entire world as a shining city on a hill (with big guns and an arrogant necropolitics). Yes, it's endemic now. But no social condition is immutable, and the amount of hidden labor that goes into keeping these magnificent puppets in the air and breathing fire is extraordinary. And it tends to rest particularly on the shoulders of women. And they could shut the whole game down for great justice by flipping the table and walking away, were they so inclined.
It never escaped my attention that the USA took Roman architecture as its prime way to present its buildings of "authority" to lord over its subjects with the specter of power..
By the way i'm sure most here are dutifully and obediently as trained to be trainable in never forgetting to sign and date all those tax checks doing so..
All wealth is someone else's "business record". They'll get it anyway, CBDCs or no.
If they're wholly owned, is there any real reason to dignify them as distinct?
The point is probably academic.
Is it just me, or just about everywhere I look, British intelligence is there doing something (bad and that the US wants done, but just can't bring itself to do)?
It's called "plausible deniability".
Caitlin.
None of these surprise me from your essays.
I love you. Don’t stop. You are a powerful woman.
Delightful! A sane, balanced, non-dogmatic stance (unsurprisingly) on a bunch of important issues.
Now working my way through this excellent tome, but let me first try to respond to this, as I was thinking about writing about it just yesterday. Caitlin qualified the climate issue with this:
"but I also think it’s suspicious that that debate consumes so much oxygen"
Unfortunately, this caveat both misses the real problem and reinforces the climate deniers and paranoid WEF, Soros, Al Gore crowd.
The real problem is that, over the last 30 years, climate and environmental activists have been captured and corrupted by corporate, Foundation, and government money and the rich donors who sit on their boards.
This money has corrupted their work and dictated their strategy, which gives corporations and governments green cover, while simultaneously generating hostility from working class and regular people. It also has greatly exacerbated longstanding elite influence and control of the environmental and conservation communities.
All this has deeply polarized the issues and now is playing right into the culture wars and right wing paranoid conspiracy thinking monster (e.g. George Galloway and Jimmy Dore both have called the climate emergency a "hoax" and "scam" manufactured by elites to consolidate power and control and transfer wealth to billionaires). They have used the real abuses of COVID science, regulatory capture by Big Pharma, and the vaccine and "lock down" response as the model for all this.
This is a very serious and rapidly escalating problem. It must be engaged head on. We look to you Caitlin and enlightened folks here for that pushback.
"The real problem is that, over the last 30 years, climate and environmental activists have been captured and corrupted by corporate, Foundation, and government money and the rich donors who sit on their boards."
That's just it - how can a corrupt bunch of "activists" and "scientists" be trusted? If they happily sold themselves at the first opportunity why couldn't they have been selling their "expertise" and "concern" initially?
You are missing the fundamental distinction between climate science and the policy responses the advocates focus on. The science is uncorrupted but the policy agenda is all corporate dominated. Additionally, you ignore the fact that the corporate fossil industry has long sought to corrupt the science (similar to what they did for for health risks of lead, asbestos, tobacco, chemicals, etc - excellent book that documents this history, see: "Doubt Is Their Product"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubt_Is_Their_Product
(Naomi Oreskes of Harvard later ripped off and popularized this theme!)
For example, a recent George Galloway show ran a viewer "poll" with a question that conflated the science and policy, so go back and watch that. Something like 90% of viewers said cliamte was a "hoax" and "scam". Jimmy Dore just yesterday broadcast an interview with a woman author who made veery, very similar claims.
Thank you. I've written a post based on the rip off 'Merchants of Doubt' book, I didn't realise there was an original, I shall read it.
And thank you for separating the science and the policy. No one wants to discuss the science. Over and over I will point to the science until eventually we get to 'climate is a scam to exert control and restrict our movements'. They have no scientific argument so they use a political one.
Yes the covid scam very much set the scene and wrote the script. Was this accidental? Or was it all part of the same. Create a pandemic hoax, to make lots of money for Pharma yes, but also to stir up a story of evil cartoon villains in Switzerland plotting to control our every move, stop us using oil or eating animals, and thus creating more demand for them and giving an easy get out of jail free card against any science on climate change and any suggestion of how to protect the environment (and restrict oil and animal ag profits); as being control by Klaus et al.
The science is still pure, even on covid, it's just that hardly anyone read it. And politicians made health policy with no scientific backing.
When looking into the original Fan Wu et al papers of 'a new coronavirus ASSOCIATED with respiratory disease' it's clear to see there was never any evidence for a new disease nor a new virus causing it.
Jo
I'd like to add additional beneficiaries of what you call "the script".
The demonization of the "lab leak theory" also provided cover and prevented any emergence of media coverage or a public debate on the bioweapons research issues and Fauci and NIH's role in reversing the moratorium on dangerous gain of fucntion research. The last time I really even a glimmer of light shone on those issues was the post 9/11 anthrax "terrorism" episodes, but that never really hit the mainstream and evaporated quickly.
I don't happen to think that GOF is dangerous I think it's lots of public money for a load of old tosh and allowing their mates to be paid to play with bat poo. I think it's all part of the virus narrative. The investigation into anthrax was carried out by a couple of postal workers, no disrespect, wasn't it?
bill wolfe: "The science is uncorrupted". LMAO! That's a howler.
The scientists are all on government grants. If they don't say what the Big Boys tell them to say, the scientists are fired and cancelled.
Yeah, well said Bill. That same thinking is playing itself out across many areas at the minute - don’t like the policy response, so the thing itself must be bogus too.....
bill wolfe: Climate isn't a hoax. The "climate emergency" is a hoax. Please, get the terms right.
No one denies that the climate changes. We do deny that it is an emergency. Humans can no more change the climate and "save the Earth" than stop the tides. (See story of King Canute).
So science can be paid for and is paid for one way or another. Scientists are human, hopefully. So anything is possible and it's infantile to deny that.
As for climate change - no reasonable person can deny that, as it's always changing. There can never be a point at which it is static. And somehow, as it oscillates, it fails to identify its ideal point, stop, and fix itself on it.
Once again, you confuse and conflate fundamentals.
Science, qua science, is very different from the institutional housing and funding of the practice. Yes, you are correct that bias and corruption are induced from external forces, including institutions and funders. And money and careerism and politics may taint or corrupt the science. But those potential abuses are adequately checked by the scientific process itself, which relies on replication of results.
You have to look at multiple lines of evidence. With respect to climate science, the consensus is overwhelming. On many other issues, e.g. pharmaceutics, chemicals, et al, - not so much.
“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.
Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
― Michael Crichton
This is not to say that the consensus regarding climate change or anything else is necessarily wrong, but that "the consensus" is just another argument from authority.
Biggest error in the hierarchy fallacy normalization of thought is that volume alone denotes a truth.. A consensus of doctors thought blood letting was a settled science once.. 9 out of 10 doctors agreed..etc
The most successful test taker is only as good (or brain washed) as the test designer..
Its is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society JK
So unfortunately thew most "accredited" institution is still a status quo Establishment driven obedience training center. After the scamdmic and the way the entire world behaved i have lost all faith in ALL institutions especially the medical establishment that i see as nothing but a bunch of grifters profiting off human suffering at every turn... we think their "science" is at some pinnacle but its going to turn out to be as ridiculous as blood letting in the future (if we even get there with this bat shit fucking clown world)
I guess you missed this preface to the portion of my comment you distort:
"But those potential abuses are adequately checked by the scientific process itself, which relies on replication of results."
Consensus based on replication is how science works. If someone can falsify that consensus, he's a hero.
Replication produces authority. You mix up many concepts in a short quote.
I wouldn't bother Bill, you can't feed science to someone who bought the fossil fuel bridge.
All ideological production can be paid for. The very occupations of "writer" or "intellectual" exist for the purpose of manipulating the vulnerable.
Why should it be any different from physiological production?
What amuses me to no end is the "the consensus is overwhelming" "argument". The consensus by whom, aliens?
russian_bot: "The consensus by whom, aliens?" is a very good line.
I mean, if they want my physiological outputs that badly and are willing to pay top dollar for them...
I see that you meant "physical" but damn, that was fun. I excuse myself.
Really, the sale of labor power shouldn't be legitimate in any sphere of capital.
Now that you mention it, I guess I wouldn't have a problem with peeing or shitting on things on Fiverr.
One problem is that people are encouraged to think in concrete-operational ("linear") terms: addition, subtraction, hierarchy, monocausality. They don't often think in formal-operational ("non-linear") terms: multiplication, compounding, combinations of linear and exponential processes, complex systems, multiple causes with distinguishable signals in the geological record, because they aren't taught advanced analysis so as to keep them obedient and dependent.
People who can entertain relatively complex causal chains in physical phenomena might come to a consensus on, for instance, the attribution of aggressive weather trends to an increase of input into the atmospheric heat engine that moves heat from the equator to the poles, and drags moisture and air with it.
All that is separate from the social and industrial capital interests that have offered their own narratives to the theater to create drama and passion for being ruled, which is the true purpose of politics.
I think the climate thing is deffo real. But I dislike how WEF etc and agenda 21/2030 are using it to make the lives of poor, old/ over 50s and the disabled a misery. Like I’ve met stop oil who think we should all opt to sue to save the planet for them , eugenicists by a different selfish route. It’s what the capitalists want . Gl hence the attacks and theft of the UK NHS and all it’s public assets and hiking all our bills up to bankrupt the public purse , services and councils , to kill us off. So they don’t have yo pay our pensions. It’s all manipulation. The narcissists only think of themselves, no austerity and climate vo side rations from the super rich private plane, heated pools, multiple homes and yachts types of people though is there. People just want basic comforts and security and it’s destroying the MH of millions as we are lead to serfdom and CBDC slavery or death. No wonder people are scared to create change to protect the climate. Things can and should change. But it should not be used as a capitalistic, kleptocratic, narcissists, eugenics, wet dream
Don't look up film was a deeply cynical clever attempt to pass the guilt and responsibility onto the little people to do something so they don't have to change a single Hollywood behavior..
Do you mind if I quote you Bill?
Jo
No not at all. Please, by all means - and send me a link to your writing, OK?
Thank you Bill and Caitlin
https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/the-covid-hoax-doesnt-mean-that-climate
Jo
Thank you, will do 🙏🏽
FYI, I delivered this testimony over a decade ago, citing Michael's book:
"The bill would further the chemical industry’s strategy to manufacture uncertainty to block, delay, and weaken environmental and public health regulations – for an outstanding in depth analysis of how the chemical industry has distorted science, see Professor David Michael’s recent book Doubt is Their Product – How Industry’s Assault on Science Threatens Your Health. The book has numerous NJ specific examples, especially on chromium and the shameful history of Dupont, a major player in NJ."
https://www.delawareriverkeeper.org/sites/default/files/resources/Testimonies/Bill%20Wolfe%20testimony%20a2123.pdf
Thank you Bill. I look forward to reading it. I already know a bit about how nutrition science has been deliberately distorted to create doubt around well established facts.
Well said, Caitlin. After reading this post, I now realize that I agree with you on all your viewpoints which further confirms why I am a dedicated reader of your Substack. I learn so much from you and your husband's revealing posts' here on this platform. I also follow you on Facebook and often share your posts there. Keep up the great work you're doing here. Cheers
I am a great believer in mentorship, apprenticeship, stewardship. These I believe are foundational to passing along skills, patience and wisdom to those wanting to learn. You might say I’m for a lot of “ships” and few or no “isms.” Fundamentalism, socialism, communism, capitalism, liberalism, conservatism. It seems to me, people can take anything with possible merit and turn it into an ism to the exclusion of all else, while extolling their pride in having done so. I could find something to ponder as a good from each of these isms and yet, as understood in our culture, I can’t affix my devotion to any one of them.
I believe Caitlin would affirm the words of Kierkegaard, "Once you label me, you negate me."
Nuclear is definitely an end game changer as well as bioweapon labs that lead to Global Medical Tyranny or the death of humanity. RFK, Jr.'s book The Real Anthony Fauci is researched and checked by 350 MD's and PhD's. Plandemic 2.0 is coming. We must stop all psychopaths in both fields of weapon proliferation/war and experimental medical drugs/toxic concoctions released.
It's truly astonishing that people are getting preprogrammed to buy into the belief that "going nuclear" isn't as bad as we have been lead to believe! This is scary beyond measure.
Not to mention Covid-19, but now that I've brought it up, it did strike me as odd that you avoid the subject and it still does. Of all the empire's lies, it appears (to me) that you've chosen to ignore the one that is by far the easiest to expose for the preemptive narrative inversion it is.
* All efforts to minimize or prevent the disease are dangerous, lockdowns and masks and vaccines are the real problem here, incidentally also for short term corporate profits
* The infection that is estimated to have killed the equivalent of Scandinavia and disabled up towards half a billion people is mild and the pandemic is over before it got started and especially since we stopped testing and tracking
Watch people eyes as you mention Covid and see them change the subject to incest or rape or anything less discomforting. Judging by the enormity of the taboo, many if not most are instinctively aware that an opressive regime has forced disease and death upon their families as a sacrifice to the economy, but they will never admit this — even to themselves — because we remain locked in this initial "stages if grief" called denial.
Unlock this and we advance to anger. For now at least, the agression remains misdirected towards anyone wearing a mask. But there is real potential here.
Or that is at least what I have managed to gather from "following the science" to the best of my ability, that we have overlooked a huge shortcut to overthrow capitalism and all that by exposing to folks that their kids are not OK because governments have conspired to save the money for tax cuts. This is not happening to those people, it is happening to you, so how healthy do you really feel and what are you gonna do about it?
https://donotpanic.substack.com/p/our-society-is-behaving-like-a-cult
Masks aren't a problem except for the middle class who wants to signal their wealth through their ability to aford orthodontia. In fact, respirators are one of the few measures that actually stops transmission.
Wired Earp: I agree. If Caitlin believes in Civil Rights, she can't avoid the egregious attacks on our liberty during the Covid Cult Scam.
I pretty much feel as you do. Id be Interested to know your views on how disabled & Neurodivergent and older people who are vulnerable are being silenced both in life and social media and with services etc.
I went to donate to a cat sanctuary in the US and linktr.ee and was told I wasn’t excepted due to security so I really must be upsetting the right people. Shame for furball farm farm cat sanctuary who have lost my donation and paver because of this website and security issue 🤣🤣.
I’m in England the disabled are being targeted from all angles. It’s almost like we don’t exist n the world of activism and even virtue signalling memes. The media won’t publish our stories. 15% excess deaths in the UK. The rich are culling us for sustainable development. Instead of redesigning the system to include us all they want to be rid of the old and disabled. They gaslight us to death and suicide, deny us healthcare we paid into and continue polluting our planet.
Look into investors, shareholders of the top 2000 corporations and mezzo capitalism they are parasites. The kill our spirit, the planet, nature and feed off us every way possible. They are the investor shareholder class who are causes and or are complicit to all the problems the planet faces. Their greed and power is the problem not the old and disabled. But we are blamed for everything.
First they use us working classes then they discard us after taking our money. We paid into tax and NI and pensions. I’m 54 soon I’m disabled now. I’m trolled on social media 24:7 then banned. Meta and their ilk are deliberately torturing and allowing the bullying of the disabled. The have no policies to protect us . We suffer mh slurs, and when we get stressed they shut our accounts down or ban us for silly things. I posted white cat hairs in my lap which was fully clothed in a silly chat about cats and housework . Fb banned me stating it as sexual. I called a man a boy who was bullying foodbank users and addressed me as girl when I’m an adult woman, I warned him I’d call him a boy if he didn’t stop., he didn’t, so I called him boy then he reported. I got a two week ban purely for calling a man a boy who called a woman a girl. Pure sexism. the autism groups don’t let us speak . We have no freedom of speech no autonomy, there’s always some middle class wanna be trying to be our voices becaus they got a degeee, im autodidactic the normal learning system failed me. I’m targeted and discriminated on because I am neuro divergent
I’m trying to show people their reality and future but I get trolled by petty A1, bots and people who chose apathy and ignorance. I’m discredited and bullied in my real life re services. I have ended up attempting suicide. I liked eternal oblivion. I liked nothingness. No judgement, no pain, no seeing the wars/ suffering and ignorance. No feeling deep seated righteous rage. No worrying about nuclear war, no invalidation, no memories of a destroyed Bosnia destroyed by manipulation and hate. It was good not existing and or remembering or feeling for 36 hours.
I have experienced their cia Myrotvorets crap when I set up the “stop the 3rd world war group”. They targe everything I post either personally bots and manipulate dog poles use my disability against me.
I experienced the privatisation of the NHS and destruction of care via burnt out underpaid staff and I worked in it as an auxiliary nurse.
see it all from top to almost the bottom. I’m not wealthy but I could be poorer Ie a refugee, a homeless person ( which I think is my future) I have to survive 13 years to my pension. They are collapsing UK deindustrialising us and getting us workers to attack each other. If you ever read Stephen kings horror books “Delores Claiborne” and “Needful full things” that’s pretty much how they function these divide and rulers. In a silenced world we cannot fight it. The end is nigh. But the wrong uns will survive it. I’m looking forward to eternal oblivion. I don’t like being a seer or empath. It hurts so bad inside not to stop the narcissistic gaslighting dark triads when we are at the near bottom of the pile of humanity they see as useless eaters. They only see us as useful in terms of capitalising. Producer labour and buyer. They call us the value, the heard and the stock. They are the evil of greed and destruction. And all the enablers are just as bad. The ones who oppress others to do their money masters bidding, the ones who judge the ones who frustrate. I see it all. Autistic adhders see patterns. Thankyou for speaking truths
So Han takes my posts and points out of context, no one took the time to actually fully read it. My point is death is death weather nuclear or the disabled being systemically bullied to the point that they are suicide as an only out. It’s all relevant because we are all in a war. I basically was agreeing with Caitlin but I do think social issues deeply matter everything is connected and if you all read my post properly you will see it’s down to uncontrolled and mezzanine capitalists by the likes of black rock, Blackstone and vanguard who own all the mechanisms and war machine in various ways. They own the world they play us like pawns. Dying of nuclear war or suicide due to depression is the same war mongers creating it. They have more wealth than countries some of the investor shareholder class, they know everything as they own shares in all the powerful corporations. A death is a death either forced suicide due to misery or someone pressing the big button. We are all humans. I’m a human not a social issue or problem. Where is my voice. Ah shut down again
I like Caitlin but it’s pretty clear that social justice issues don’t matter to her. I don’t know how she can call herself a true leftist while trivializing and ignoring social justice issues and writing them off as merely distractions when they’re one of the huge barriers preventing class consciousness
Sure that's one way you can choose to deliberately misinterpret the words "I oppose racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and discrimination against disempowered groups of all sorts. These are real problems that do need to be solved as humanity winds its way into the future; we can’t just ignore them."
If there was any attempt to interpret them to begin with.
In my opinion, they’re used to divide people. It’s all nonsense and victim mentality. I ignore it.
Oh christ please don't tell people to kill themselves in the comments of my blog. I can't believe I have to say this. I won't give you another warning.
Omygod honey! Take your medicine. That’s an insane statement!
I can see that you’re a very caring human being.
Han: That's what the doc told me at the rehab center.
I was trying to figure that one out too? Not sure what lane "Han" is in?
I never said this I opted to not really reply to it
I mean if she gave a shit about disabilities she probably could’ve responded to you right?
Feelings are disinformation.
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I can only speak for myself, but I avoid calling myself a "leftist", true or otherwise, or anything else, as such categorization short circuits critical thinking. It's another thought terminating cliche.
"If we all go up in a mushroom cloud, at least we had pronouns." doesn't seem like much of a desirable outcome.
Leftist is such a broad term though.
You're the one who tried to determine who is or is not a "true leftist".
True leftists should care about social justice in my opinion. You’re from the all lives matter crowd though so your opinion is not important to me
Real leftists are conversant with Marx. You are a capitalist performing manipulative emotional gesticulations to bully people into recognizing your feelings as truth. Log off and call your provider immediately.
Not my opinion but your own words.
Come now Han, there’s a big world of difference between acknowledging that those real issues have been co-opted by the powerful to serve their agenda and not being on board with the issues at all.
I abhor racism, but i thought the entire BLM movement was misguided, headless and ultimately a fruitless bunch of noise that resulted in some new houses and several million into the democratic party. You know, the ones that have actively taken part in and supported policies which impact the black, brown and asian communities disproportionately.... so whilst i cheer those core issues on, if someone is simply arguing for their place at the table, the table whose radical changing is essential for our survival, well.... it just seems so pointless to me, sorry.
“Hey, i want my space on the march to extinction too”
“Shall we avoid extinction instead?”
“Why are you not supporting my rights....?”
“Well, i do, totally and unconditionally but there’s like all this starvation, brutal wars, ecological collapse, possible nuclear war shit, that well, god dam it, just appears a little more pressing right at this point, and as such, needs more of my neurons and oxygen”.
I find the progressive leftists to be willfully naive about social justice issues and their use by the propaganda machine to manipulate, coerce and direct them to do what the establishment wants. War against Russia has been defined as a social justice issue and many leftists buy into all of it, basically becoming social war hawks.
Can anything be as obvious, when an entire class has been manipulated into supporting a heinous war based on the lies of social justice.
Social justice in all ts forms is nothing but a tool to drive a wedge between citizens cohorts to the benefit of the establishment.
I know that the dems/shitlibs use social justice issues as a distraction from the US war machine. I know that they don’t actually care about Ukrainians and I know we started that war. You’ll never see a Ukrainian flag anywhere on my profile (I also happen to be half Russian.)
To say that social justice in all its forms is a distraction is to say that these issues don’t matter. When I say social justice issues I’m not referring to Ukraine I’m referring to racism, transphobia and so on. These issues don’t truly matter to liberals beyond self-righteous indignation, but they matter to me because I know a FUCK TON about social justice issues throughout history. Like for example how unions brought black people into the working class. Or how even closeted gay people couldn’t join the military until 1993. Or how black people led most of the fights for social justice activism all throughout history, not just winning rights for themselves but also getting better pay for women, empowering people to embrace their sexuality and more.
These issues dont matter to dems which is why they aren’t real leftists and neither are you. Class solidarity should be wholly inclusive and these issues are just as important as those pertaining to foreign policy. Not to mention the fact that slavery still exists in the US today.
So next time you run your mouth.. do everyone a favor and eat a jar for of thumbtacks.
I guess those long standing black societies all over the world were to dumb to know about classes, middle, upper, lower or otherwise ? How ignorant you are of the greater world.
Slavery has always existed in every society. The Arab societies were enslaving white Europeans before America was founded. The Japanese enslaved the Chinese. Navajo were enslaving the Arapaho long before white men walked on this continent.
How typical that your idea of social justice is completely based in the establishment propaganda you have been fed your entire life. This was the entire point of my comment, that social justice issues come from people who believe the propaganda because it feels good.
Let me suggest you read a lot more Thomas Sowell.
Weber's theory of classes is not the only one, nor is it particularly useful except as a blueprint for bringing about what it claims to exist, i.e. a myth.
Sowell is a neoliberal ideologue, and therefore a liar, and therefore a waste of food.
I was going to suggest Thomas Sowell. “A Conflict of Visions” -Thomas Sowell, 2007
“Every man, wherever he goes, is encompassed by a cloud of comforting convictions, which move with him like flies on a summer day.”-Bertrand Russell 😉
Establishment propaganda huh? Pretty lazy way of arguing with someone who you disagree with and know significantly less than. America is one of the only countries that has yet to evolve from slavery, the fact that slavery exists here today still and your examples are hundreds and thousands of years old proves what a complete moron you are.
Not to mention the fact that you just proved how slavery predates capitalism. Ergo it’s not a result of capitalism which means that the class war and culture war are interconnected. Thus disproving your whole argument. Now go blow your brains out.
You are not fighting the losing battle it may seem like as these responses gang up on you. Console yourself by knowing that these are probably kneejerk reactions from people afraid to look at their own privilege, because few of these responses are anything more than name calling. No real debate. It may be like what Caitlin says about talking about feminism—she doesn’t because the outraged hysteria that it causes isn’t worth it to her. I personally find your point of view refreshing, even tho I too was a knee jerk! 🤗
Thank you and you’re right. Don’t worry it’s okay, I appreciate you taking the time to hear me out. I can understand caitlins POV on feminism because even I don’t agree with a couple facets of feminism. Sex work, while it should be legal I think the idea of consent being bought is repulsive. Like that would literally be rape If money wasnt involved so I don’t think sex work is empowering for women at all. I also don’t hate men. So I can understand why she wouldn’t really want to talk about that.
But racism, trans rights, black socialist history etc are all things I believe she should be voicing her opinion on. Especially since you can only repurpose the same sentiment so many times before it gets a little stale. We know the US is evil and morally corrupt. We know about the genocide and torture and war. We know capitalism only benefits society’s worst people. I agree with her on these issues but if she’s afraid to speak out on other ones for fear of backlash she might as well go get a deal with The Atlantic. The point of being an independent journalist is that you should be able to talk about whatever you want. I think because her base is slowly devolving into the all lives matter crowd she doesn’t wanna piss them off
They're neo-Puritans and their project is a Second Reformation of Manners, nothing more. Or less.
She reminds of a petulant child in nursery school. But, I’d give an innocent child more credit.
And again, I will shout this from the fucking rooftops: just because social justice movements have been hijacked by shitlibs for the sake of self-righteous indignation does NOT mean they’re not important issues.
Stop thinking you have to choose between starvation, brutal wars, ecological collapse, possible nuclear war shit versus trans rights and black people. ALL OF THESE ISSUES CAN AND SHOULD MATTER EVEN IF THE LIBTARDS DONT ACTUALLY GIVE A SHIT. WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM. LETS ACT LIKE IT. These issues are NOT pointless when we still have fucking slavery in America.
Social justice problems have been around as long as society has been. The naivety of the progressives is thinking that some magic bullet has been discovered that is going to change human nature so deeply that hatred will be eliminated from the earth. It is nearly as silly as the good guy/bad guy narrative sold to the public. Slavery exists worldwide and has in every culture, every society throughout history. I refer back to my magic bullet statement, show me how your solution changes human nature ?
Slavery definitely never existed in Cuba or North Korea. I don’t think there’s some magic bullet and my solution doesn’t change human nature because you’re still an asshole. I can’t do magic.. I cant force you to care about social justice issues or make you any less stupid than you are. I can only hope that someday you evolve or take your own life
In America, everyone is a slave-a debt slave.
True, and REAL SLAVERY STILL EXISTS HERE. Not that you fucking care
You can't please everyone. I agree with much of what you have to say but more than that it appears we have somewhat lost the ability to read the heart. Ultimately, the most important in my view. Though i have been mistaken, yours appears to be in the right space.......which means you are available to re-adjust your views according to more data, intuition, what-have-you.....thanks for your hard work.
Well, this piece has sure prompted comments that demonstrate why we're never going to be in unison against the Global Central Banking Cabal. Good luck to us!!
LOL
37: Tell us how you would fight against the "Global Central Banking Cabal". I'm really curious to know what your ideas are.
To start, dissociate from them and ignore them as much as possible. We had a prime opportunity to do that at the onset of all of the "COVID" horseshit, but people still believe that's all real. Had people not worn masks, ignored any and every mandate, then we wouldn't be where we are now, societally.
Does that address the Central Bankers? No, not directly, but it reveals how entirely out of touch we are with the reality of what's really going on in the world, how it's really controlled, and who really controls it.
It doesn't matter "how I would have anyone fight against the GCBC. I didn't wear a mask and ignored everything else, From what I could tell at the time I was the only one or one of the very few doing so and I took a rash for it no matter how pleasant or polite I was to people. My warnings to friends, family, acuaintances went mocked and unheeded.
Again, this tells me that people are clueless, and that includes most of the so-called awake too.
People from the "awake" crowd that I know, their kids too, pay to see the crap that Hollywood puts out. We're still religiously tied up in sports in this country. People en masse are still naive, gullible, and ignorant enough to really think that (s)elections, which have been (s)elections for decades and in turbo since electronic voting machines came into being, really matter.
If we can't get past those simple little things in understanding, nothing else matters. Those are merely weak symptoms.
People are too motivated by fear (understandably) and greed (which is where I take primary issue), and we're talking about the people most positioned to be able to make the kind of difference that needs to be made.
It's a complex topic. My original comment that you seemingly condescendingly responded to, implicitly pointed out the disunity that exists due to the grand demoralization that has permeated our society, all of western civilization for all intents and purposes.
I could write a lenghty book on the answer to your question and it would still leave room for more.
At the end of the day it requires people to A, understand what's really going on at the global level, but we can't even get past the simple and most damaging narratives that we've been propagandized with. So many of the so-called "awake" still think that a handful of muslims did 9-11. We're royally screwed if we cannot understand that the Central Banking Cabal is behind ALL of it at the top-most levels, including the Boston Bombing, Vegas, PULSE, etc., etc., etc. The same people that pulled that off did "Covid."
Both have worked marvelously to their favor. And while we're bickering over "holding those accountable ...," they're laughing at us and moving on with the next phase while we're foolishly seeking justice in a system that THEY control, when we could be doing more to ready ourselves to the next onslaught, which will be tied to CBDCs.
... and B, it requires people to be prepared to give up everything that they've attained in this filthy, rotten, satanic, immoral financial and Central Banking SYSTEM.
So allow me to ask, are YOU prepared to sacrifice all that you've attained financially in order to forge the way for your, your childrens', and their childrens' future liberty? This includes retirement monies, investments (in THEIR network of corporations created to control us), savings, etc., and to start over in a "real" economy?
Most are clinging to their wealth/mammon. There are many outlets, institutions, people whose ENTIRE focus it is to help people "protect their wealth" as if that wealth is the apple of their eye. In most cases it is.
It's deeper than those things, but that's the start of it for us. Aka, it's not going to happen because we're too greedy. We're soft, no longer understand what real work is.
Life is not about money & wealth. But in our western world, we've made it so that is. Consumerism and seeking of pleasure dominates our culture these days, sort of like drug addiction.
Anyway, I was simply amused at the trivial animosities that arose with this post by Caitlyn.
Are you really finding it so difficult to imagine the narrative that the US government released an actually dangerous bioweapon and knows more than you do about what *could* have happened? Notice how both political theologies create dramatic lies, both calculated to lead away from this fact.
If that's true then it was ineffective. "Covid" killed no one.
I would turn those statements around back to you.
If they really wanted to foment a disease they easily could have done so. All of this lab crap is just that, crap. While those labs do exist and have for decades anyway, it had little if anything to do with the PSYOP involved.
It was all theoretical, they're even told us this now. Gotta read more.
I'm finished with it all. People aren't in the proper moral frame of mind these days to turn to what will save them and away from what's harming them. It's astonishing in fact.
We're simply going to have to learn the hard way. Unfortunately, that "hard way" is going to have dire and deadly consequences for many.
And BTW, for whatever "lab grown disease" you think they actually came up with, the "solutions" to it, namely Injections (TM) and Boosters, are what is doing all the killing, maiming, and causing the cancers and other ailments, putting the ailments from whatever you think they created into the "sniffles" category at worst.
As to "imagining tht the US Government did anything," no, no hardship at all. It's clear that the entirety of the US Government is controlled by the sons of hell, with most of the top leadership positions held by people that have citizenship of a single other nation. It's beyond clear that the Babylonian Talmudist Bolsheviks own and control our government, just as they've told us for half a century now, along with all of the other major institutions in our society: Finance, Law, "Entertainment"/Hollywood, "Education," etc.
Our US Government is anti-Christian to the core. The irony is that so many people claiming to be "Christian" work for those things and derive their means of existence from them.
>"Covid" killed no one.
This sounds like an emotional belief, which is almost certainly false. Having actually caught it and having had lasting effects likely attributable to it (mechanistically), I refute you thus.
>If they really wanted to foment a disease they easily could have done so
This is a god narrative, which is heroic, mythical, and frankly childish. Bioscience is still limited by the rate at which human technology can produce genes and splice them into place, test the predictions of the products' performance in animals, isolate any promising natural mutants for further development, etc. There have been reports in the literature of chronic epithelial disease secondary to COVID which both parties' media machines have been covering up, and there are mechanistic explanations for a permanent depletion of the body's anticancer immune cells by SARS-CoV-2 which is already starting to come home to roost in the form of blood cancers.
Also, different degrees of contagion suit the variety of strategic purposes such weapons would be employed for. Coronavirus contagion and non-pharmaceutical intervention are well researched, and it is well known that wounded are more costly to impose on an adversary than kills. Such insidious medium or long-term effects could be desirable for a bioweapon strategy: lock down the borders of the target country, let the food stores run out and their immune systems weaken, and the vast majority of them will die or be unable to keep their division of labor up. Drone surveillance and cheap FPV weapons take out anyone making a run for the border, hold for 2-3 more months until any remaining coronavirus has died, bombard the place with "safe and effective" antiviral Agent Orange, and voilà, free stuff for the taking.
>While those labs do exist and have for decades anyway, it had little if anything to do with the PSYOP involved.
The disease and the psyop were both real. Both parties and their equivalents in other countries had their role in creating interlocking narratives that led away from the lab leak narrative, and for strategically trading that narrative off between themselves as it became geopolitcally convenient.
There are actual business receipts for development of products, of SARS-CoV-2's very kind, commissioned under US public-private auspices at the very lab it was said to have leaked from, dude. Do libertarians not believe in contracts as truth anymore?
A note on masks. Cochrane distanced themselves from Conly's briefly celebrated meta-review, stating that Conly made conclusions unsupported by the evidence. His trick was to count conditions where respirator use was optional or unenforced under the intervention arm rather than the control arm, treating a contagious airborne virion reproduced and emitted by humans and other mammals as if it were a simple nuisance you cough up later and don't pass along to others.
Those studies that accounted for diligence of mask use in indoor environments showed a clear reduction in contagion under diligent use conditions, bolstering the mechanistic explanation of atomic-scale effects of filtration which we have profitably and commercially exploited in other industrial endeavors all day and every day. So you don't get to magically suspend the principles of physics and engineering and market values for your heroic feats of self-delusion.
Enough for now.
I notice that you didn't answer the question.
Again, HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU HAD "COVID"?
I couldn't get past this ...
"This sounds like an emotional belief, which is almost certainly false. Having actually caught it and having had lasting effects likely attributable to it (mechanistically), I refute you thus."
Quick question, how do you know "you had Covid?"
37: Thanks for the reply. We are in agreement. I was just hoping you had a concrete way to wake people up to the Global Banking Cabal. I always tell people to read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" or "Economic Hitman".
People are still naive, gullible, and ignorant. Indeed.
Knowledge and courage would help fight the monsters but knowledge and courage are in short supply.
Congrats on not wearing a mask etc. I was forced to wear one in the hospital when I smashed my hip. I was in no condition to resist the buggers.
I was not being condescending to you. I was hoping you had an idea.
PS: Did you pick "37" as your avatar because that was "Cool Hand Luke's" prisoner number?
I mention things to educate all the time. I personally have been studying this for decades, the internet has really made it incredibly more efficient and productive. I began from whence I was a Dispensationalist-fundie, but what I was taught about Scripture did not add up. So in discovering that it was wrong, and yet another inroad by our moral and mortal enemy, into "christianity," and mitigated the reality of who Christ really is, I discovered who was really behind it all, namely the Babylonian Talmudist Bolsheviks, the ones that Jesus referred to directly in Matt. 23 for example.
But in providing varying materials and sources as to how they pull these things off, I've found that people asking for them, "don't have time." But the messages are sent when I hear loud and clear that they "didn't have time to watch a simple hour-long video" on the topics that you mention for example, but when I read on facebook for that they binge-watched some mindless season of a TV series over that weekend. OK, ... priorities.
As I mentioned above, consumerism and pleasure are our main goals. We only typically complain when those are disrupted. Or our precious wealth is threatened.
This is what happens when people work lifelong towards the goal of wealth accumulation. They won't relinquish it even if their very permanent liberty is threatened. They're like these monkeys ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jBgo7UipqY&t=8s
We had an opportunity to let it all collapse during the Recession of 2008 "Too Big to Fail", which was spawned by them, the perps. But once again we opted for mammon uber alles.
As much as I'd like to think that there's truly a solution, I don't see one, again, primarily for the very reason implied by my original comment. People are far too divided on superficial issues to even begin to approach the core issues. Again, while we're still foolishly trying to "get justice" (again, in a system controlled by those we're trying to get 'justice' over), they're well into the planning phase of their next horror show, which is going to be many times worse than this simplistic charade that was the mythical "Covid."
Just wait to see what the fear that's spawned does to people. What the most interesting, to me anyway, is how people claiming to be Christian actually react. If the behavior of those that run our church-buildings (notice I didn't say "church") are any indication, they'll feed right into the anti-Christ narratives and the sheep in those social organizations will follow right along.
The best chance that we had to wrest ourselves free from the Global Beast was in 2008. We made our choice.
37: I agree with all you say in your comment. It seems a hopeless task to fight for liberty and the teachings of Christ but we have to try.
I retired at 56 (15 years ago) and have had the time and inclination to go down all the rabbit holes, read the books, watch the videos, read the articles... but as you point out, most people don't have the time or the inclination or both.
Some say a determined minority can change things. They have in the past. Look at today. A small minority is pushing this Woke crap and succeeding.
Keep trying. Thanks for the comments.
I've had my own business for over 20 years, and this crap over the past three-plus years put the kibosh on it and left me high-and-dry. I was already still trying to recover from the 2008 one which wiped me out back then leaving me to start over. Longer story there, but by then I had three small kids and it was difficult. Point being, even with all that work, I still did a substsantial amount of research. As I tell people, I probably spent 3-5 hours/week back then reading "stuff," but over the past three it's been an never-ending deluge.
I finally stopped reading just about everything earlier this year. So many of "the awake" are caught up in the BS of (s)elections, lawsuits, media, etc., and they don't realize that those are the things that the perps want us caught up in.
It's so frustrating. When this all began I called it out immediately and tried to begin warning people, but almost no one would listen. I began telling people fairly early on that this would be the only "virus" in human history that could only be cured by a never-ending string of government approved Injections.
Then as the facts started to emerge, people I'd tried to warn all acted as if they were on the vanguard of defense in this entire thing.
I'm so worn out by it all. Similar to how women are now PO'd that men are competing as women, when I began calling out the women's movement subversion and homo agenda and they're the ones that supported that. So to me it's karma, let them fight that battle now. I tried and they would have none of it. Same for the people just coming up to speed on this crap over the past year or two. They can fight it now.
I see no point unless the heart of the beast is attacked, and we're far from doing that. We can't even identify the perps that have polluted our government and societal institutions without being call anti-semites, and while overstepping the definition of "semite" in that way on top of it.
BTW, I see that I did not fully answer your questions from the post earlier.
37, yes, very astute!! You're the first one that caught that.
And you're absolutely right, knowledge and courage ARE in short supply. Except when singing the national anthem of course, or bombing other countries from afar. Hawkeye in M*A*S*H once said, "War, America's favorite spectator sport." He was right. When we get a dose of our own medicine however, ironically from the same element that's doing it worldwide, see my comment above, then WE don't like it.
As to the mask in the hospital, I wouldn't worry about that at all, fully undestandable. Medical staff driven by the controlled AMA are too stupid a/o gullible to realize that they're the enemy. They really think that they're on the good side. Re: Your comment about "knowledge" above.
My family is under instructions that if anything serious happens to me, to put me in my own bed and let me die in peace. LOL
I will never wear a mask. I must obey God, not man. I'm far from sinless, but when I go out I plan on at least being faithful there. I'll leave it in God's hands after that resting on the work of Christ.
As to solutions, no, unfortunately not. I had some hope when people started to sort of figure things out, but then when I read the solutions put forth by the so-called "awake," I'm left shaking my head and telling myself that at the next horrific scare, and it will be far worse than the last one in every likelihood with people fighting over the most basic of needs to start, those same people will cave in to CBDCs and whatever else the enemy has in store for them.
We're a nation of "tough guys" until it's really time to put the wheels to the road, then we're cowards. AKA, there's nothing like seeing a Compensator Pick-Up Truck with a Gadsen Flag decal on the back, and a mask hanging off of the rear-view mirror.
I'm simply taking every day as it comes, and reminding myself that if my faith in Christ is real, then our term on this life insofar as pleasures, comforts, and conveniences go, is negligible. Our "christian" society, the westernized version anyway, has made it plausible to worship both God and mammon when Jesus said it was impossible. It's made things abhorent to God perfectly allowable. Tragic.
I wish I had more positive to offer. Only God/Christ offer that. LOL
This all sounds entirely reasonable with a cogent set of reasons why you’ve arrived at these stances and it’s surprising that this set of ideas would be and are labelled fringe. When in fact they are not at all fringe. It’s highly probable billions of people would agree with all these positions yet we’re totally atomized by the empire apparatchiks when it comes to confronting them in truly representative numbers. The Neoliberals have done a masterful job at rolling up the narrative to suit their agenda and it would probably be prudent to begin the discussion of “how” this Neoliberal machine can be dismantled in a systematic fashion as it’s been shown clearly the electoral process is incapable of actual effective reconstructions. Would love to hear more thoughts on this topic.
First, enough people have to recognise what it is, in order to aid in the deconstruction. Attempts to deconstruct it before that will just fail.
But i suspect change will then happen in patches - similar, but not necessarily related, pushes to move things like farming, community resource ownership etc away from the locust capitalist to more sustainable local models.
As these become more prevalent, they will begin more and more related movements. So i think the deconstruction will actually be the building of alternatives that work better - but they can only survive if enough see the locust for what it is. And when we do, we can watch it slowly crumble, wiping honest sweat from the brow during a glowing orange sunset, at the end of a day spent constructing something much more beautiful.
For me 'covid' was important as I knew instinctively from the start that it was scam to make us take their horrible vaccine, that they were bound to be making, so it forced me to open my eyes and look into the cess pit of organised crime also know as the power couple of government regulation and the pharmaceutical industry.
I think we're causing global warming too but you're right, Caitlin, it is very quiet about species extinction, loss of pollinators, pesticides, empty oceans etc it's all net zero and everything will be OK. It won't.
Jo
You are absolutely wrong in your ideas about Covid. It was NOT a scam to create a vaccine to prevent mass death. If you don't believe in science, I have to question your ability to think rationally. As I have mentioned elsewhere, the pharmaceutical industry is not the same as the scientists working to save our lives. To conflate the two is inexcusable ignorance.
They are not my ideas. I am a scientist. I absolutely believe in science. I believe I am working to save lives from the belief that pharmaceuticals are necessary. There is no evidence that the common symptoms of fever, dizziness, chest tightness, pain, weakness and a cough in 7 patients in heavily polluted Wuhan represented a new disease. No scientific evidence was ever shown that the sequences of RNA chosen from one patient sample were an entity nor that the entity could cause disease in animals or people. https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/seeing-is-believing
george&donny: I agree with your comment completely.
Carolyn: PS: If the vaccine prevented mass death, then why did the least vaccinated continent on Earth, Africa, have the lowest death count from Covid (or whatever it was)?
I’m no expert, but isn’t it possible that Covid never spread in Africa as much as it did on other continents? Vaccinations may not be a factor there.
Andrea Cherez: The only theory I've read on why Africa had very little Covid is that the people there take HCQ (Hydroxychloroquine) every week to prevent River Blindness. The Africans call it "The Sunday Pill."
It could also be the climate in Africa and the fact that most people there spend a lot of time outside.
Carolyn L Zaremba: The vaccine did not prevent mass death. You can't prove a negative. As for believing in "science", that is an oxymoron. Science is always evolving. Science is about questioning beliefs in search for the truth.
A lot of agreement, areas of disagreement. A big difference in understanding comes in how we characterize the role of the US in the world, vis-a-vis China and other nations that may challenge US interests and that align with it.
China officially describes their form of government today as "Socialism with Chinese characteristics." Implying that other nations practice socialism with their own characteristics. This description synchronizes nicely with the WEF's Great Reset concept of seven regional powers instead of US hegemony. With the intention that by 2030 the US will officially describe itself as being governed as "Socialism with American characteristics." EU = "Socialism with European characteristics, etc.
Each regional power delegated global responsibilities. China & Asia are the manufacturing hub. The US is the global police and propaganda hub. The other regions assigned their own lanes of responsibility. All working together for an efficient global society. Led by multinational corporate efficiencies in production and profit. That's the public billing of it, anyways.
The reality lies in the private understanding between the nations. We must come to understand that every single nation on earth today is run by organized crime families. Chinese family dynasty governance historically was organized family crime rackets under modern definitions. Mao's communist revolution provided the ideological cover to legitimize organized family crime under the pretense of government instead of dynastic. The most powerful crime families from the different provinces come together in their politburo where they divvy up the spoils of their government-legitimized racketeering. This structure avoids the bloody wars between criminal family operations that would historically plague China.
AND... the US has the same exact governing structure today. It is run by organized crime families. Some family names known from politics, some from business, some from banking. But all of them would be considered organized crime families racketeering if they didn't possess the honorific titles and control of police, prosecutors and courts, as well as the media. The US Congress functioning as the Chinese Politburo does, divvying up the spoils from their racketeering. Protected. Unaccountable. Unless they break an oath to the system they've constructed: Don't talk about Fight Club.
Very much like the Mafia. Organized crime, arm-in-arm with the entire system of government at their disposal. Impossible to distinguish between criminal family and political, corporate family. All-one. I submit to you and all for your consideration that the world is being run by criminals in a manner very similar to the National Crime Syndicate, the Commission, as exemplified in the Apalachin Meeting, and its various cinematic portrayals like in The Godfather, Goodfellas, Analyze This and others. This, the Apalachin Meeting of crime families divvying up the loot from their criminal rackets is probably the closest approximation to what our local, state, federal and international governance is like:
https://ganglandwire.com/apalachin-meeting-part-1/
Crime families. The US Senate, leadership, House, Leadership, President's, Justice's, business leaders, the system providing a useful facade of legitimacy to divvy up the loot and spoils of national and global criminal rackets. Gangsters wearing nice suits, given titles like "The Honorable" that are completely undeserved. This is how global realpolitik is run. The Bush Family Crime Syndicate. The Clinton Family Crime Syndicate. The Biden Family Crime Syndicate. The Cheney Family Crime Syndicate. The Rockefeller Family Crime Syndicate. The Carnegie Family Crime Syndicate. The Windsor Family Crime Syndicate. The Thyssen Family Crime Syndicate. A nation and world full of family crime syndicates that operate under a Commission-style set of rules. European nations. African nations. Asian nations. Latin American nations. Pacific Islander nations. Middle Eastern nations. All. Exactly the same structures. All criminal crime family enterprises. Multinational corporations the economic driver of profits to be skimmed. Government tax receipts the protection money skimmed.
They bring in the most insane, the most criminal element of underlings as apparatchiks to run the bureaucracy, grateful and loyal for the opportunity, but not too bright so they won't become a threat or stray. And for any who do, the dead fish in a box on a doorstep is usually enough to get their attention and cease and desist from thinking for themselves:
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/loeffler-campaign-staff-member-kemp-family-friend-dies/OLPRRAIMKNAPZPRJA2GYRIHFMU/
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/the-gbi-agent-reportedly-assigned-to-gov-kemps-daughters-boyfriends-mysterious-fatal-accident-has-committed-suicide-in-georgia/
And the US's role as global policeman is by design. Not to serve the US empire. To serve the globalist empire. Which includes China. And Russia. Even war between nations are by design. Lots of money is made on war. Like the Rockefeller, Bush, Windsor and Thyssen crime families made on both sides during WWII. I believe targeting the US as the biggest global villain misses the target. The US was cast in that role by the Globalists, in the same way China was cast in the global manufacturing role.
When enough of us realize this is who is running the world and how they are running the world it will all make sense. And our shared human experience will be markedly improved. We cannot defeat a foe we cannot imagine, see or believe exists. We are ruled by organized crime family syndicates. Top to bottom. Nations are false constructs under this understanding of the real world. "Socialism with Chinese/US/etc characteristics" the giveaway.