An important and long-overdue debate has occurred between Iraq-raping arch-neocon Bill Kristol and the tireless libertarian war critic Scott Horton on the subject of US interventionism, and you should definitely drop whatever you're doing and watch it immediately.
In the declining phase of the Roman Empire, emperors were apparently far too influenced by court eunuchs. The equivalent eunuchs in declining US empire are the generals and neocons like Krystal. Although they may still be in possession of their gonads, they've clearly had their empathy surgically removed by propaganda. A great example is Krystal's initial summary of all the wonderful accomplishments ("liberal global order") of US hegemony in the 75 yrs. since WWII. Vietnam, in this brainwashed imbecility "didn't go so well." and his allusions to Iraq were still focused on the millions killed by Saddam, without much reference to the millions killed by US "intervention" (propaganda-speak for "unjustified military brutality"). I've completely had it with referencing any of these imbeciles as anything but the sociopaths they are.
I have a solution which will never happen, of course, but all declarations of war are put to a national referendum - no more run congressional arounds of 'humanitarian missions', regime change, etc. War or No War, period, as per the constitution.
If the majority favor war, whoever voted 'yes' is eligible to be drafted for the next big show. No desk jobs, just 'boots on the ground' positions. Govt officials will not be drafted but directly enlisted.
Now if only we had the ability to get an accurate vote count, but counting seems beyond the capabilities of GovCorp.
I went to Washington with a contingent from Minnesota and we met citizen lobbyists from all over the country. Nine out of ten of the American people were against the Persian Gulf War. If that isn't as good as a referendum, I don't know what would be. And George I said, "I'm going to have a war whether the American people want it or not." Go look it up.
Yes, I remember. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush 2 also made flippant comments about what the people did or did not want, peasants be damned. Representative democracy my ass.
Also biggest protests in history in UK for Iraq 2 were blacked out or downplayed. I remember the same stuff happening at the 1999 Seattle WTO protests. The globalists own the politicians and media, so they do whatever they wish. But there are major chinks in the armor these days, plus the impending economic crash, hence the scamdemic... Look over here!
I didn't go to Washington DC but I protested in my state (WA state) every day for weeks on end. Me and my husband, standing on the corner with signs, getting approval from almost everyone passing, having those passers-by join us from time to time. There were protests, small and large, all over our county (we are in a semi-rural area). And my mother, in the next county over, who never went outside and only watched tv, told me no-one was protesting, that I was a loonie for protesting. I'm like, but there's protests all over the world! The biggest anti-war protests ever. However, the MSM didn't cover them, and so they didn't exist for her.
The power of the MSM is mind blowing. All 'news' and hollyweird entertainment have been, since inception, tools of programming, social engineering and mfg consent. I think the lies of omission are as powerful as the lies of commission.
I've changed my political outlook and position on a couple big issues in the last 20 years, so my brother thought I was becoming 'conservative' (neocon) like him. So three years ago he asked me what I thought the Iraq war was REALLY about. Are you fkn kidding me? All these years later he still believes the neocon lies which have all been thoroughly debunked 100x over and the media never 'circles back' to report on the stellar conditions in their newly minted Democracy™.
Mass psychology is a fascinating, infuriating, and terrifying subject, especially when manipulated with sophisticated methods and technologies. If we can't figure out how to unplug the younger generations, we are in for the mother of all dystopias.
Calling them sociopaths feels good because they are such jerks. Calling them sociopaths because they defend destruction also feels good. I agree with how you used it.
But.
They are not sociopaths they are perfectly of their right mind and they truly believe that their actions are just.
Sorry to be such a smarty-pants, but I think at the root, we have to assume those who do abhorrent things (as we see it) do so for good reason and in the name of good - that is why it’s so persistent.
“Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under the omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
CS Lewis
I see this with the brainwashed coronavidians, but I'm not sure it applies to the politicos. I think they completely lack empathy and turn a blind eye to the destruction they create - it's just impossible for them to be unaware, and yet they continue on.
I remember more than one occasion when Obomber droned groups of completely innocent people, wedding parties, also the despicable 'double taps'. The next day he'd be out playing golf or high-fivin on the b-ball court. Same for Bush, Clinton, Biden... Any person with a conscience would be suicidal and completely ashamed of such evil deeds.
The mental game I play to separate myself from the likes of Krystol, Obama, Clinton, Trump, what have you, is imagining myself being dragged to some post-revolution guillotine. I would know what I'd done and beg for mercy; I believe the aforementioned would go to the gallows totally mystified as to why. (I know guillotine and gallows aren't synonymous, but the latter fit so well and you're missing the point by bringing this up.)
I don't disagree but I don't know how far down the road "He meant well" gets us. Frankly, I don't really care. To me, actions tell the tale much louder than intentions ever could, and less lies are told that way as well. I'm sure every Zionist stealing land believes they're doing the right thing, sanctioned by the God they made up. Who gives a shit how they defend the indefensible?
I just don't have the time to listen to word salad from a supremacist asshole talk about how war makes we citizens safer or better off. BTW The links don't work; perhaps put the times instead because this video plays. The YouTube page doesn't. Thanx for sharing this 'debate', Caitlin.The gall of that idiot(Kristol) is astonishing. Peace
I was about 40 minutes into watching the video and it froze, so I reloaded and it is now "unavailable / private". More evidence of the obvious - the empire's wars diminish freedoms at home.
Thanks. Back in the early 00s I was warning people that if we allowed the neocon/libs to destroy defenseless nations in MENA that the empire would eventually turn the guns on 'their own' (which is of course not how they view us). I was not a very popular guy (not much change in that regard), but that war is now clearly here and worldwide.
Here's a blatant admission of the end game, pretty audacious when you hear the these maniacs say the quiet part out loud. Highly recommended viewing and sharing to get word of their plan out https://www.bitchute.com/video/34AVwjWe8joH/
The quiet part out loud is to say - we no longer have agency as humans, the technology has been deployed to hack people, hack our freedom, our free will, our essence has been commandeered, our souls are knowable and available to be manipulated.
Diminished freedoms at home deriving from imperial wars they have technology deployed against their own people (erstwhile), they have the tools and they are on the march.
That’s why I love Trump so much: an unauthorized president absconded with their office, bloviating narcissistic incompetent orange crude, what a magnificent comeuppance for the shitlibs.
Check out CJ Hopkins substack he’s all over this shit
That's a good summary. The arrogance of the technocrats is absolutely astounding -- they actually think they are gods.
Haha yeah, as much as I loathe Trump, I did enjoy watching neolib/antifa heads explode. Since they're all puppets anyway, I hope he gets 're-elected' in 24. REEEEEEEEEEE
I'm sure it's because they want to release the official video instead of one that begins at minute 55. In the meantime, you can use the new link that Caitlin refers to.
I dunno, any semi-competent debater not obviously on the take ought to be able to jack up a turd like Kristol like a trained and pissed off MMA fighter beating up a computer geek, the way a pitbull terrier rips apart a vicious and neurotic cocker spaniel.
Why do I believe our political discourse is fruitless hot air designed to distract from TRUE reality? Our world is being manipulated by psychotics. Until the light is shone brightly in this direction, why bother?
There is a disturbing consistency to the thinking of psychotics like Silly Billy. When narcissism and greed combine they form a nihilism that results in chaos and disorder in every nook and cranny where they reside. The discordant reasoning of these people is on full display anywhere Silly Billy pontificates. There is a cacophonous explosion of verbal bile resulting in comedic confusion and cartoonish ataxia. Great scurrying and brow furrowing and harumphing followed by greater confusion. Kind of like forming a committee to form a committee To study the forming of committees. In the south, we call that stupidity.
Bill is a traitor just like many RINOs and are no better than the Dems & The Lincoln Project is a disgrace to Abraham's name. They are just about power and money.
As disgusting as Kristol is, it's important to remember that he represents our disgusting systems and institutions. Those are what we need to address, eliminate, or change.
Just click the links in the article, folks. They work. The old one you were linked to in the email was taken down but the new one is fine.
In the declining phase of the Roman Empire, emperors were apparently far too influenced by court eunuchs. The equivalent eunuchs in declining US empire are the generals and neocons like Krystal. Although they may still be in possession of their gonads, they've clearly had their empathy surgically removed by propaganda. A great example is Krystal's initial summary of all the wonderful accomplishments ("liberal global order") of US hegemony in the 75 yrs. since WWII. Vietnam, in this brainwashed imbecility "didn't go so well." and his allusions to Iraq were still focused on the millions killed by Saddam, without much reference to the millions killed by US "intervention" (propaganda-speak for "unjustified military brutality"). I've completely had it with referencing any of these imbeciles as anything but the sociopaths they are.
We'd have far fewer interventions if those imagining them were made to go fight in them.
I have a solution which will never happen, of course, but all declarations of war are put to a national referendum - no more run congressional arounds of 'humanitarian missions', regime change, etc. War or No War, period, as per the constitution.
If the majority favor war, whoever voted 'yes' is eligible to be drafted for the next big show. No desk jobs, just 'boots on the ground' positions. Govt officials will not be drafted but directly enlisted.
Now if only we had the ability to get an accurate vote count, but counting seems beyond the capabilities of GovCorp.
I went to Washington with a contingent from Minnesota and we met citizen lobbyists from all over the country. Nine out of ten of the American people were against the Persian Gulf War. If that isn't as good as a referendum, I don't know what would be. And George I said, "I'm going to have a war whether the American people want it or not." Go look it up.
Yes, I remember. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush 2 also made flippant comments about what the people did or did not want, peasants be damned. Representative democracy my ass.
Also biggest protests in history in UK for Iraq 2 were blacked out or downplayed. I remember the same stuff happening at the 1999 Seattle WTO protests. The globalists own the politicians and media, so they do whatever they wish. But there are major chinks in the armor these days, plus the impending economic crash, hence the scamdemic... Look over here!
Watch How to Start a Revolution DVD documentary and read From Dictatorship to Democracy the book
Yes, there were major protests all over the US at that time that were blacked out by the media.
I didn't go to Washington DC but I protested in my state (WA state) every day for weeks on end. Me and my husband, standing on the corner with signs, getting approval from almost everyone passing, having those passers-by join us from time to time. There were protests, small and large, all over our county (we are in a semi-rural area). And my mother, in the next county over, who never went outside and only watched tv, told me no-one was protesting, that I was a loonie for protesting. I'm like, but there's protests all over the world! The biggest anti-war protests ever. However, the MSM didn't cover them, and so they didn't exist for her.
The power of the MSM is mind blowing. All 'news' and hollyweird entertainment have been, since inception, tools of programming, social engineering and mfg consent. I think the lies of omission are as powerful as the lies of commission.
I've changed my political outlook and position on a couple big issues in the last 20 years, so my brother thought I was becoming 'conservative' (neocon) like him. So three years ago he asked me what I thought the Iraq war was REALLY about. Are you fkn kidding me? All these years later he still believes the neocon lies which have all been thoroughly debunked 100x over and the media never 'circles back' to report on the stellar conditions in their newly minted Democracy™.
Mass psychology is a fascinating, infuriating, and terrifying subject, especially when manipulated with sophisticated methods and technologies. If we can't figure out how to unplug the younger generations, we are in for the mother of all dystopias.
War is rich privileged people sending poor peoples children to kill and be killed.
Calling them sociopaths feels good because they are such jerks. Calling them sociopaths because they defend destruction also feels good. I agree with how you used it.
But.
They are not sociopaths they are perfectly of their right mind and they truly believe that their actions are just.
Sorry to be such a smarty-pants, but I think at the root, we have to assume those who do abhorrent things (as we see it) do so for good reason and in the name of good - that is why it’s so persistent.
“Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under the omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
CS Lewis
I see this with the brainwashed coronavidians, but I'm not sure it applies to the politicos. I think they completely lack empathy and turn a blind eye to the destruction they create - it's just impossible for them to be unaware, and yet they continue on.
I remember more than one occasion when Obomber droned groups of completely innocent people, wedding parties, also the despicable 'double taps'. The next day he'd be out playing golf or high-fivin on the b-ball court. Same for Bush, Clinton, Biden... Any person with a conscience would be suicidal and completely ashamed of such evil deeds.
That’s brilliant thank you for the CS Lewis
The mental game I play to separate myself from the likes of Krystol, Obama, Clinton, Trump, what have you, is imagining myself being dragged to some post-revolution guillotine. I would know what I'd done and beg for mercy; I believe the aforementioned would go to the gallows totally mystified as to why. (I know guillotine and gallows aren't synonymous, but the latter fit so well and you're missing the point by bringing this up.)
I don't disagree but I don't know how far down the road "He meant well" gets us. Frankly, I don't really care. To me, actions tell the tale much louder than intentions ever could, and less lies are told that way as well. I'm sure every Zionist stealing land believes they're doing the right thing, sanctioned by the God they made up. Who gives a shit how they defend the indefensible?
If someone does abhorrent things because, in their mind, it's in the name of good, I believe that would fall under the definition of "sociopath."
Just to put a pin in this, let's roll out Mr. Hitler and ask him if he thought he was doing the right thing.
Thanks for coming, everyone, and drive home safely, folks.
Ted Bundy believed his actions were just. That is what made him a sociopath.
The video was "taken down", turned privated. Is there another link?
Any online article on Bill Kristol is incomplete without a handy keyword search:
PNAC, POS, Israel, Zionist, imperialism, smug, cat turd, pampered, delusional, duopoly, genocide, elitist, militarist, chicken hawk, corruption, liar, insufferable, poster boy, apartheid, con artist, criminal, blowhard, land grabber, bullshit artist, American exceptionalism, karma dodger, used car salesman, empire, entitled, empty vessel, dingleberry, sociopath.
LEAVE US CATS OUT OF THIS!
He's all yours, then. Lol
I'd toss him in a tiger pit.
I just don't have the time to listen to word salad from a supremacist asshole talk about how war makes we citizens safer or better off. BTW The links don't work; perhaps put the times instead because this video plays. The YouTube page doesn't. Thanx for sharing this 'debate', Caitlin.The gall of that idiot(Kristol) is astonishing. Peace
I was about 40 minutes into watching the video and it froze, so I reloaded and it is now "unavailable / private". More evidence of the obvious - the empire's wars diminish freedoms at home.
Yeah it got set to private. Updated with a new link.
Thanks.
Can I get the new link? Thank you Caitlin for the great voice you are & all you do to get IT out there.
Got it. Thanks!!!
Good coinage : The empires wars diminish freedoms at home - excellent.
Thanks. Back in the early 00s I was warning people that if we allowed the neocon/libs to destroy defenseless nations in MENA that the empire would eventually turn the guns on 'their own' (which is of course not how they view us). I was not a very popular guy (not much change in that regard), but that war is now clearly here and worldwide.
Here's a blatant admission of the end game, pretty audacious when you hear the these maniacs say the quiet part out loud. Highly recommended viewing and sharing to get word of their plan out https://www.bitchute.com/video/34AVwjWe8joH/
The quiet part out loud is to say - we no longer have agency as humans, the technology has been deployed to hack people, hack our freedom, our free will, our essence has been commandeered, our souls are knowable and available to be manipulated.
Diminished freedoms at home deriving from imperial wars they have technology deployed against their own people (erstwhile), they have the tools and they are on the march.
That’s why I love Trump so much: an unauthorized president absconded with their office, bloviating narcissistic incompetent orange crude, what a magnificent comeuppance for the shitlibs.
Check out CJ Hopkins substack he’s all over this shit
That's a good summary. The arrogance of the technocrats is absolutely astounding -- they actually think they are gods.
Haha yeah, as much as I loathe Trump, I did enjoy watching neolib/antifa heads explode. Since they're all puppets anyway, I hope he gets 're-elected' in 24. REEEEEEEEEEE
He’s colon hydrotherapy for the shitlibs
Thanks for the Hopkins tip. His content looks similar to the Swiss blokes at coronacircus dot com
I will take a look.
Hopkins has coined the phrase GLOBOCAP - good stuff
I like GovCorp
I'm sure it's because they want to release the official video instead of one that begins at minute 55. In the meantime, you can use the new link that Caitlin refers to.
scott horton is a national treasure
YooToobe tells me that "this video is private." What they always say when it's censored.
I dunno, any semi-competent debater not obviously on the take ought to be able to jack up a turd like Kristol like a trained and pissed off MMA fighter beating up a computer geek, the way a pitbull terrier rips apart a vicious and neurotic cocker spaniel.
Why do I believe our political discourse is fruitless hot air designed to distract from TRUE reality? Our world is being manipulated by psychotics. Until the light is shone brightly in this direction, why bother?
There is a disturbing consistency to the thinking of psychotics like Silly Billy. When narcissism and greed combine they form a nihilism that results in chaos and disorder in every nook and cranny where they reside. The discordant reasoning of these people is on full display anywhere Silly Billy pontificates. There is a cacophonous explosion of verbal bile resulting in comedic confusion and cartoonish ataxia. Great scurrying and brow furrowing and harumphing followed by greater confusion. Kind of like forming a committee to form a committee To study the forming of committees. In the south, we call that stupidity.
Bill is a traitor just like many RINOs and are no better than the Dems & The Lincoln Project is a disgrace to Abraham's name. They are just about power and money.
And Horton won with one hand tied behind his back, i.e., without being able to place his arguments on a foundational critique of capitalism.
Thank you -- the two Q&A sections CANNOT be viewed - I got message "private video"
Questions from the moderator (where things really heat up) starts here.
-- Q&A from the audience (in my opinion is the best part) begins here.
As disgusting as Kristol is, it's important to remember that he represents our disgusting systems and institutions. Those are what we need to address, eliminate, or change.
Is this video posted somewhere else? Youtube censored it