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Lou Pintada's avatar

Somehow, the US needs to get burnt down.

I keep telling myself that it is coming, and it is. Just not soon enough.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Along with Israel and no I am not anti Jew BUT I am anti Zionist.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

I remember back in the'70's when a young man from India whom I worked with asked me why so many people hated him. Being the only Ukrainian kid in a Scots/British community I had gone through a lot of the same hate and derision as a child. I told him that I thought most people are afraid of change and respond to it with hatred and aggression. In time I said most people would change their attitude and not even think of him as different or an object of hatred. To a certain extent this has come to be except for the rabid dogs who are always looking to blame someone else for their failures.

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JennyStokes's avatar

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J C's avatar

So sad.

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Val D. Phillips's avatar

The consequences are coming. Rome didn't fall in a day.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

The first millenium wasn't nuclear.

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jamenta's avatar

Apparently, quite a few people want the world to burn right now. And it seems like, they will soon have their wish (one way or another).

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Edward Bernaysauce's avatar

not that it isn't warranted- but it's currently being pushed so that a pre-planned solution will come to the fore...

(map that and you're ahead of the game...?)

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

The Zionist Globalists are intentionally destroying America, the UK and Europe with organised mass illegal immigration, assisted by the respective Puppet govts. of these countries, most of which have been infiltraited by the WEF 'Young Leaders' traitors. After WW!!! they intend to announce that all must worship the 'True God', 'Lucifer', or they will not be allowed to live.

They have sold their souls for wealth and power, and will use their wealth and power to force worship of their benefactor. THAT's the PLAN. All that can stop them is Jesus' Second Coming.

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Lou Pintada's avatar

Paul, you are delusional. You have gone over the deep end with your silly superstitions. Sure, it must be comforting to have an *answer* -- someone to blame.

The fact of the matter is that humanity is fully capable of the evil that it does all on our own. And no one entity is to blame. Governments come and go. The US government needs to go, and it is not the fault of any one entity, and certainly not some imaginary "devil".

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Jojo's avatar

-10

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Contrarian 33's avatar

The details in this article by Caitlin reinforces what so many people have said over time. Israeli people are depraved in so many ways judging by their attitude in relation to very unacceptable sexual crimes when compared to the West, such statistics included today.

This article confirms even more. Yesterday's writings about the way prisoners were treated shows a level of sadism, with some of these crimes being carried out by the Jewish volunteer members from all over the world, such killers then returning "home" to their Jewish enclaves as murders, uncharged and regarded as heroes. They should be identified and sent to prison for life.

They do need to be publicly identified and then to see how those weak Western countries see their crimes and where their loyalties belong.

Included this week is the now documented treatment of Palestinians in Israel's prisons, the dirty tricks used to bring children out into the open to be then killed by sniper fire and the targeted bombing of any structure containing children..... schools, homes, hospitals and on .

Let's see how the media handles this one.

Well one can only guess that it will not even make the headlines without seeing a fictional emphasis on something that would be 'attributed' to Hamas, that evil bunch of so-called "animals" that must number multi-millions in number to be present at all the crimes mentioned by the Jewish owned / controlled media and present in all the thousands of miles of tunnels throughout Gaza and the Rafah areas.

Reading the Western media these days is like having a daily visit to Disneyland.

Israelis are the greatest liars unhung, and have surpassed the evil activities of the Third Reich in WWII. They have become the epitome of evil, expanding their dirty deeds every day.

It is time for the real world to see Israel for what it is........ a sick, evil parasitic state.

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Val D. Phillips's avatar

Nah, dude, Disneyland is FUN! Disney is evil, but Disneyland is fun.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Such fun.....waiting in endless lines and paying a fortune for everything. Wasn't fun for me.

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Michael  Lynch's avatar

Disneyland is not "fun", it is a distraction for a self absorbed society that has no connection to reality. And Disney Corp. definitely is an evil entity, an entity like the US government, which manipulates everyone and everything to their own advantage and toward their own goals.

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

Disney was a co-operator in the CIA's 'MK-Ultra' child abuse abominations. Read Cathy O'Brien's books, or watch her interviews on video.

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

I'm presuming you took your child/children - I don't think you would have taken them if you knew the barely hidden depravity of their 'Cartoon Characters' and general perversive practices (barely hiding gross sexual imagery and symbolism in plain site).

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Marci Sudlow's avatar

Disneyland sounds like a hell-on-earth to this introvert. If wall-to-wall humans didn't repel me, the commercialism surely would.

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JennyStokes's avatar

What is fun? Knowing you are paying large sums of money to an entity which already owns billions.

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

Perverts certainly think so!

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gypsy33's avatar

Me either Gregor, and never had the slightest desire to do so.

Why waste a trip going to Disneyland when you can feast your eyes on all of nature’s breathtaking wonders?

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JennyStokes's avatar

Kids want to go.......do parents want to go?

Actually I think Disneyland is the epitome of naivety.

Many Americans remind me of kids.

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

Once again, throwing the baby out with the bath-water. Not all Israelis are Ghouls; many brave Israelis oppose the abuse, torture and murder of Palestinians, and the stealing of their land.

But the majority certainly appear to be the Ghouls they are painted as.

But the US and Western MSM, and our BBC, are accomplices in these abominations by covering them up with euphemisms.

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Sharon R. Fiore's avatar

I remember a couple years ago those poor bastards in Venezuela literally had to eat all the Zoo animals. that’s horrendous for both the people and the animals.

United States government is vile. I am for Venezuelans and Palestinians. I say this as an old-fashioned conservative.

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SW's avatar

Meanwhile, Israel bombs Beruit claiming revenge for the deaths in the Golan Heights (of people they could care less about) in hopes of destroying Lebanon and being bailed out by more assistance from the Biden cabal. I really think they’re crazy and dangerous and reckless. In their arrogance, they’re determined to start WW3. If Lebanon decides they’ve had enough Israel may get their wish.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Israel is trying very hard to provoke Hezbollah into a response so that they can run screaming to the United States.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

CJ>>"Netanyahu didn’t create the genocidal racism in Israel, the genocidal racism in Israel created Netanyahu."

Absolutely true! Israeli society (and Zionism) are so sick (in every which way) that I am left speechless. I mean, they are sick to the bone, to the core - as if this sickness has crept into their very DNA! (Of course, there will always be a few exceptions here and there - outliers).

Does Israel (in its present state) have a right to exist? My opinion (from everything I have seen so far and learnt from history) is NO!

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Philip's avatar

What do you do with 7 million Jews and 500,000 others?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

(1) You attempt to deprogram the Zionists.

(2) If the deprogramming fails, you ship them off to whatever countries will accept them, and give Palestine back to the Palestinians.

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Philip's avatar

So, you ethnically cleanse Palestine of it's Jews?

Isn't that part of what you don't like?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I guess you forgot to read point (1) above and went straight to point (2). There would be no need for ethnic cleansing if point (1) works.

If it doesn't, then ethnic cleansing Zionists remains the only option - as that is the group that has been Genociding Palestinians (and Bedouins, Palestinian Christians, and other small minority groups in the region) since 1947-48.

If one has to ethnicly cleanse a population (Zionists) to save another population from genocide and extinction (Palestinians), then YES!!

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Caitlin has said it all.

I find myself with nothing much to say except a sadness that is overwhelming. Heartbreaking.

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russian_bot's avatar

Good thing you said it though.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

"If I needed to defend my political faction by telling people to overlook an active genocide until after an election, I personally would simply leave that political faction."

Very good advice. The only people who wouldn't follow it are those without a conscience or heart. There couldn't be that many sociopaths out there, could there?

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Patrick Powers's avatar

People who need their jobs to pay their mortgages mostly hold their nose and parrot the party line.

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JennyStokes's avatar

What's it got to do with having a job?

If you are paying a mortgage maybe it's time to downsize.

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Elisabeth's avatar

In general I agree with what you said, it is just in the US this more or less means you are on skid row (homeless!!) - NOBODY wants to downsize to this ... (BTW I liked Leonard Woolf's books - thank you for the tip)

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JennyStokes's avatar

At some point we all have to be careful now.............US fast-tracking downwards soon I think. Banks will be the first to go under?

OH Elizabeth I am so happy you read them and that you liked them.

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Elisabeth's avatar

YES, I agree totally! Very scary! Good luck to you - be SAFE!

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Darren Gratten Whitney's avatar

I used to ask myself that.

Around 2003, I think...

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russian_bot's avatar

"Really says a lot about how evil, entitled, supremacist and stupid western civilization is." - the rulers are not stupid, the population is. The rest applies to both.

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Sharon R. Fiore's avatar

Unfortunately, I have to agree with every single thing you wrote

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Whatistobedone's avatar

"Israel bombs yet another UN-run school in Gaza, killing 17"

I don't know what to do...about my hatred and loathing of Is-ray-hell and ...us...it is all....incomprehensible...

Are we in hell?! Never a believer in heaven or hell...but now I wish there were...a hell. Is-ray-hell: Nazis are you....fuck Israel. Fuck jews who support...genocide. The earth will, mercifully, ...vomit humans into the abyss.

🤞

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Susan T's avatar

Fuck all the non jews who support genocide too

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Val D. Phillips's avatar

Yeah, seriously. Hell, there are more members of Christian Zionist organizations in the U.S. than there are Jews in the U.S. (and many, many Jews do not support this genocide and are resisting with every fiber of their being. Please, let's not equate Jews with Zionism. They are not the same.

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Charles Mackay, PhD's avatar

By the same token, anti Zionism is not, by definition, anti Semitism. Those who conflate the two are wrong. The important question is why would they choose to conflate the two.

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John Turcot's avatar

"Let's not equate Jews with Zionism. They are not the same." MMMmmm ? 2 words, but if Jewish terminology is involved in both, they are much more the same than not. Is water and H2O different, or the same...

If you really want to cut a debate to shreds, use synonyms and argue their differences... i.e., Zionism and Jews .

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Darren Gratten Whitney's avatar

Oh, yeah: If anyone's actually conflating Zionazis and Jews, it's Butcher Bibi and his boot lickers across the world. You gotta hear his synonyms...

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John Turcot's avatar

Oh!!!!! now I understand.....

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Darren Gratten Whitney's avatar

Zionists exploit the faith to facilitate theft, torture, murder, rape, "hasbara", blackmail, racism, false imprisonment, social and financial cancellation and other shameless evils thrown at pretty much every living or inanimate thing that is forced to weather the stink of their blackened souls.

Jews are just, y'know, doin the Jew thing.

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John Turcot's avatar

staircase....

I looked at the Wikipedia definition of Zionism and read that "Fundamental to Zionism is the belief that Jews constitute a nation and have a moral and historic right and need for self-determination in Palestine" and no mention of your interpretation that they "facilitate theft, torture, murder, rape, "hasbara", blackmail, racism, false imprisonment, social and financial cancellation" as the overall condition of Zionism. and when you add: "Jews are just, y know, doin the Jew thing" is not exactly an enlightening revelation.

I think I have the impression that you really don't know an awful lot about Zionism, and neither do I., which I admit, but your interpretation seems, at best, an opinion, and not a historical fact.

I think that what Israel is doing to Palestinians in Gaza, and elsewhere for that matter, has to be among the most vile and despicable set of horrific acts humankind can do to other humans, which in no way associates Zionism using your personal interpretation.

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Kathleen Grover's avatar

I have studied the history of Zionism and of the creation of the state of Israel. Zionism, from its inception in the late 1900’s, specifically called for the establishment of a Jewish state. When they decided on Palestine, previously had considered Argentina and several other locations (I’ve read claims that they asked US for the states of Arizona and New Mexico but have no independent confirmation), they were very clear that it would require removing the native population. They couldn’t allow non Jews to remain on their land as then it wouldn’t be a state exclusively for Jews and they could lack a majority. Additionally, Herzl, the father of Zionism, stated that the Palestinians would not willingly leave their homes and the Zionists would have to be prepared to use whatever force necessary to remove the indigenous population. He called it the “Iron Wall” which would make the Palestinians realize that resistance would be futile. And the early Zionist militias did exactly that, displacing 750,000 people from their homes and villages. Their planning and tactics are well laid out in Illan Pappe’s book, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. Pappe is one of the “new” Israeli historians who wrote after Israel opened its archives 30 years after 1948. The details of the militias’ brutality and war crimes are difficult to read but necessary to understand the history and current culture in Israel. Other “new” Israeli historians include Shlomo Sands, Avi Schlaim. Their works are all drawn from Israel’s own detailed documents. They all concluded that the Zionists had ethnically cleansed Palestine. Another of this group, Benny Morris, also agreed that it was ethnic cleansing but then later partially recanted saying that yes, it was ethnic cleansing, but it was justified. He compared it to the US’s ethnic cleansing of the indigenous people, a necessary evil to create a superior state. Of course, there is NO JUSTIFICATION in law for ethnic cleansing and I also take issue that a “superior” state was created. I recently saw Benny Morris at a debate with Medhi Hassan where he further recanted and claimed not to remember any of his past writings.

The Palestinians, as people displaced in a conflict, have an absolute Right of Return which Israel has never honored in spite of agreeing to abide by international law and UN. Resolutions as part of their admission to the UN. They have ignored multiple UN Resolutions requiring them to honor Palestinians’ rights of return and, of course, have continued to ignore all future UN resolutions, findings of the ICJ.

Israel claims to be a Jewish state for Jewish people which precedences Jews above others, having a two tiered citizenship. Not exactly the definition of a democracy. The Zionists hold themselves to be above others and not bound by international law. They are the only state, to my knowledge, that has never accepted permanent borders as to do so would not permit future land grabs as we currently see in the West Bank and East Jerusalem as well as their plans for Gaza’s future. Look up Netanyahu’s Gaza 2035 plan which he presented to his own government prior to 10/7.

The Zionists also have the Hannibal directive which requires troops to prevent soldiers (and apparently civilians) by any means from being taken captive. This has been used in the past to require troops to kill their own soldiers if they are being taken captive. Israeli troops have admitted that it was also called into practice on 10/7 when troops were ordered to call in missile strikes on their own barracks, with Israeli soldiers inside, because Hamas fighters were there. They also testified to calling in missile strikes on civilian homes where civilians were known to be present because Hamas fighters were also in the homes. This was to avoid the embarrassment of the past when any Israeli soldier was captured and, after 5 years, was traded for 1,000 Palestinians. So to avoid the embarrassment of a hostage trade they murdered their own soldiers and civilians. That’s Zionism in a nutshell.

There were attacks by Israeli civilians on two Israeli military bases over the detaining and questioning of 9 Israeli soldiers who are accused of sexually abusing and raping Palestinian detainees. Israeli citizens were outraged that these soldiers would be questioned. Some in government stated they should be allowed to do anything to these detainees, they were heroes. Today Israel released the detainees to a hero’s welcome, claiming they feared a civil war. What kind of country defends the raping of ANYONE and threatens their military for even questioning these men?!?

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Darren Gratten Whitney's avatar

Wikipedia! Hilarious! My favourite part was "moral". You might as well have gone to Bibi's home page, but maybe your home planet doesn't provide such resources.

Nanu Nanu.

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Philip's avatar

Are you Arab or Muslim? Where did you arrive at this level of hate for Jews?

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Darren Gratten Whitney's avatar

Your bag of magic words will have no effect on me. Move along, zionist baby killer.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Christian Zionism pre-dated political Zionism by some 400 years! Christian Zionists outnumber all the Jews in the world. If one looks a bit more closely it’s pretty clear who is using whom in this insane, religious fanaticism that poses as a geopolitical project rather than a drive for Armageddon.

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John Turcot's avatar

Joy...

Adding other layers to the word Zionism such as "Christian: Zionism and "political" Zionism only makes my original comment even more disparate and disassociated with its intent. Wikipedia's extensive description for example does not support the contention that "it's pretty clear" about what Zionism implies...or use the word insane... While I wholeheartedly agree that what is going on in Gaza is indeed as insane as it gets, especially when 16,000 children have apparently been killed by Israel bombs, that still does not confirm that Zionism and Jews are to be viewed under completely different lenses, which I thought was the case with my original comment.

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Val D. Phillips's avatar

But what about anti-Zionist Jews? What about non-Zionist Jews? What about Palestinian Jews who continued to call themselves Palestinian decades after Israel was founded? What about Orthodox Jews who call Zionists "non-Jews"? Jews are some of the best allies Palestinians have. Are all Christians Nazis? Are you trying to make a case for anti-Semitism? I'm sorry, I just don't understand.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Yes!!!

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Sharon R. Fiore's avatar

They get you to the point where you are so mad you feel insane.

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Jojo's avatar

Fuck you in return.

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russian_bot's avatar

Nah, the fuck is all yours.

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dennis hanna's avatar

Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, Benjamin Mileikowsky!

is the United States, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.


The United States, Kamala Devi Harris,

is Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, Benjamin Mileikowsky!

The leaders names change,

The country's actions remain the same.

No!, that is not strange.

Why? What's in a name?

A settler-Colonial land,

United States and Israel.


The Promised Land,

United States and Israel.


Manifest Destiny is our stand.

United States and Israel.


A land with no people for
A people with no land.

United States and Israel.

Indian Territory(ies)
Palestinian Territory(ies)

United States and Israel.


Illegally Occupied Palestinian Territory(ies)

Indian Reservations

United States and Israel.


Palestinian Reservations

“Area C”, Palestine?, you pray.
“Not reservations, Bantustans,” you say.
Apartheid is the only way.

United States Indians
Israel, PalestinIndians

Names change,

The country's actions are the same.

No!, that is not strange.

Why? What's in a name?

Different names for the same thing, ethnic cleansing and Genocide.
The truth you can’t hide.

United States and Israel.

One and the same. 
The Principle of Identity, 
A difference only in name.
dennis hanna

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PaullyD's avatar

Yup! That pretty much sums it up. It’s not comforting to realize that the people in charge who I assumed were in charge because they were the best and the brightest, are nothing of the kind. They are the schoolyard bullies on a grand scale each one with a worse case of borderline, narcissistic, antisocial, histrionic personality disorder. They don’t have the capacity for introspection and self awareness and wouldn’t even consider Not Employing The Scorched Earth policy in their wake. It’s Good vs Evil and nothing else.

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Selina Sweet's avatar

Unsurprising the brutal attitude toward rape….since the Israeli soldiers have been raping Gaza with bombs, tanks, bullets, missiles…and from many accounts get a sadistic pleasure from it all

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Patrick Powers's avatar

I have learned that whatever propagandist X is accusing Y of is almost always what X's government is doing. It's extremely useful for discerning what's really going on. It's almost too easy.

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Val D. Phillips's avatar

Great work yet again, Caitlin. Thank you.

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Kojo's avatar

The Israelis are sick, the US and its zionists are sick, and so is anyone still supporting and enabling them at this point. This is all beyond comprehension.

If the rest of the world cannot distance itself from this morally decrepit crew, then something is wrong with us. Everyone should be pulling their ambassadors from Tel Avid and Wash DC, and implementing sanctions and embargos.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Should, but they won't.

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JennyStokes's avatar

100% agree.

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Bakelite72's avatar

For the "Ask Venezuelans!" crowd:

Read Anya Parampil's excellent book 'Corporate Coup', or watch the recent Dialogue Works interview with Alex Krainer on YouTube.

Venezuela, just like Cuba, is ruled by natives who finally got sick and tired of capitalist corporations exploiting and 'Westernizing' them; they saw that their choice was between: a) a small elite class enjoying material affluence by joining hands with these invading pirates and participating in the enslavement of the majority of their own people; or b) kicking the bastards out and starting over, which requires hard choices to be made and austere conditions to be endured at least for a while.

Economic sanctions and punitively draconian credit terms, imposed by the US, its lackey clients states and its dominated organizations such as the World Bank and IMF, are the only things keeping Venezuela or Cuba from flourishing on their own terms and under their own hands.

The Regime Change game is the CIA's favorite, and they've been playing it insistently and ruthlessly for 75 years all over the world, wherever the people reject the Empire's total control.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Just saw this...well worth watching.

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