It shouldn't be at all surprising that liars lie. So we need to assume that everything they say is a lie and that Israel will continue lie and deceive until they just can't lie and deceive any more. In other words if they are able to lie, it is a lie. Treat it as such, and conduct thyself accordingly.
And to compound the matter, you have a narcissistic sociopath who wants to "win" the Nobel Peace Prize for no other reason than 1) Obama (whom he loathes so much) got it back in 2009 for no good reason and 2) it's just another shiny new object for Big Daddy to flaunt on his social network.
It won't be long before he has his minions planning to carve out more space on Mount Rushmore. And if that isn't feasible, I'm sure he can find ways to "erase" one or more of the "loser" Presidents currently occupying the real estate.
Of course, it doesn't need to be said that Trump, following Biden's lead, actively armed Israel to the teeth.
I will seriously lose my mind if these fucking liberal elites is Oslo even think that a war criminal like Trump deserves anything else but a trip to the Hague.
The amount of sycophantical behavior by world leaders since Trump won re-election makes my stomach turn
It sure does take its toll even though we are not even living in Gaza but it woke us all up to how corrupt Governments are and the Empire that rules around the world .Hard to come to terms with our Western civilisation being complicit in Genocide
Western civilizations have always been complicit in genocide. Look what happened to the Native Americans, the east Indians, the Congolese, the Aboriginal peoples of Australia...
Some thoughts (of mine) that go counter to the narratives (of ceasefire) of the West ->
(1) No one really cares about the Israeli hostages (other than their families) - not Trump, not Netanyahu, and not the elites of America and Israel. This ceasefire is not about hostages.
(2) From recent past history, we know that Israel has NEVER managed to maintain the ceasefire for more than a day (and even then they continued killing Palestinians - though discreetly). They never lived up to ceasefires in Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, or anywhere else.
(3) I highly doubt that Israel will be releasing too many Palestinian prisoners. Their goal has ALWAYS been ethnic cleansing. Releasing all the Palestinian prisons will lead to an increase in the non-Jewish population, which is something Israel doesn't want.
(4) Israel will find ways TO CONTINUE killing Palestinians (in Gaza and elsewhere) under different methods (ceasefire or not) - in prisons, in the West Bank, and even in Gaza (as long as there are no cameras/reporters to record it). This has been their behavior. I don't expect them to change this just because Trump said some words.
(5) Israel may use this 'down-time' (they're calling it a ceasefire?) to regroup and prepare for an assault on Iran (as Israel will be unable to attain its goal of Eretz Israel unless they make Iran into a rump state).
(6) Israel will continue displacing Palestinians (from Gaza and the West Bank) while this cease-fire is supposedly going on. A cease-fire might provide a lull in the genocide, but I doubt it would do much to slow down the ethnic-cleansing.
(7) Israel (and the U.S.) are attempting to use neo-colonial strategies to conquer all of Gaza (hint: they want Tony Blair and Trump to take charge of Gaza instead of any Palestinian factions).
(8) Trump still very much has his focus on 'real-estate' in Gaza (after all, Trump is Trump) - hence the situation for Gazans is unlikely to improve.
(9) Israel may continue 'this facade of cease-fire' while continuing to prevent aid, food, medical supplies, life necessities like electricity/water from reaching Gazans, thus continuing the genocide of Gazans by means of starvation, etc.
(10) Trump seems to desperately want is 'Nobel Peace Prize'. This may be his strategy to try for one. I hope people see the 'fakery' for what it is. Trump (and Netanyahu) deserve the 'death prize' (if there is any such thing).
All-in-all, IMHO, this is likely to be a FAKE ceasefire (in the sense that Palestinians will continue to be ethnically cleansed and genocided by other means than outright military action), and I still harbor doubts about how long even this 'fake ceasefire' will last...
Take the weekend off, this coming weekend. Have a break while you can.
Forget about Gaza. Forget about the lying Israel, Forget about the totally corrupted USA.
It is tempting for me to leave it there. But the one item you cannot dismiss is history (it repeats itself) and the details of the Israel game plan, written over 100 years ago....and by now, known to all.
The History. 80 years since WWII for Israel, all taken up with planning the very thing that we are all witnessing today. Is it Step # 5, # 8, #16.....who cares about the number. . A ceasefire conjured up in this case to give some breathing space to TRUMP to assist his quest for a Nobel Peace Prize, 2025 but also some time for the Trumpanyahu government to move into the next step of the lie to end all lies.
The Facts. Listen to the right wing (sorry, extreme rightwing Nazi - like) Israeli politicians who are virtually saying….. 'can't wait for this bit of make believe to be over’ …..so we can get back to the real objective, the details of which one really doesn't have to itemise here as 'we all really know what will happens next'.
Even the highly respected Caitlin and Tim must be really thinking.....how long?.
In Israel. We have the hostages back, so now we have the support of all in Israel. No more questioning of our plans and actions. As for Trump and his Nobel prize? He can wait until next year. He will do what he is told. We have that side of things well covered, believe me.
Here we go then. We have a country called Palestine we have to turn into rubble with good old reliable Western support whose governments are always there with us, one and all.
20 years from now, all just a distant memory (when you control the media)
It's a huge conundrum. The Palestinians have suffered insufferable brutality and they want the bombing to stop. Yet, by the same token they know they cannot trust the Israeli Regime and they certainly cannot trust the USA. So they are caught between a rock and a hard place. They've lost so much, schools, churches, mosques, universities, hospitals and whole families have been wiped out. They are surrounded by rubble filled with toxic waste and who knows how many bodies buried underneath. They have been denied the resources to clean it up themselves. Is the world community willing and able to do the clean up for them? Even the big fat cats who are licking their lips over the "prospects" of what this prized beach front property will bring millions if not billions to their coffers. Some say it will take 15-25 years to clean it up and rebuild. Meanwhile, Israeli real estate agents are selling land like they landed on the moon and carved up pieces for sale. None of it matters, because it's the gain in the moment, not the future reconstruction. The promises of reconstruction fall apart, look at Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere else the war machine has devastated the area. It's not even about regime change, they just want the Palestinians gone and forgotten.
Then there's the absorption of these worn torn highly traumatized individuals into other countries. Many of them severely injured, mentally, emotionally and physically, with Gaza having more child amputees per capita than in recorded history. They've starved them to the point that even the food aid cannot arrest the physical damage done to their bodies due to malnutrition.
What can they do? What should they do? They simply want the bombing to stop. They want to believe that they can recover their lives and rebuild their homes and communities. Without sincere, genuine and honest support from the world community, they will be at the mercy of the genocidal entity that has had its noose around their neck for decades.
Recovery from this Holocaust will take decades if not centuries, as much as I wish I had a magic wand to make it all better for them overnight.
Israel Apologists Have No Foundational Argument. The Zionist Jews Have Made the Holocaust of the Jews Irrelevant by the 21st Century Holocaust of the Palestinians.
Being forced at gun point to accept a decree written by those who are murdering you can not last. I believe it is similar to the treaties that turned WW1 into WW2 because they were one sided and devastating to the vanquished side. This ceasefire is a lie within a lie within a conspiracy.
Hamas has not agreed to disarm until a Palestinian state is established, something the current regime in Israle has stated will never happen. Hamas, faced with genocide or gambling that Trump will keep his word to prevent Israel from restarting the massacre, has taken the gamble, having given up the leverage of the hostages, which brought the Israel public railing against Netanyahu's consistent sabotage of hostage deals. It is not giving up its right to resist, tho that resistance is offered at the price of genocide, a devil's dilemma.
It is my suspicion, and I hope I am wrong, that Netanyahu will find a pretext to resume the massacre, blaming Hamas. He has hired a criminal gang to do false flag acts of violence to blame on Hamas, so the cast is in place as is the di.
It is deeply ironic that if this works, it is because of Trump's egomaniacal desire to win the Nobel Peace Prize by ending the war. Hamas is gambling that his hubris will protect them......and we know that the only hope is that Trump's lust for the Peace Prize will embolden him to clamp down on the Zionist monsters in Israel...but then again, he is known as TACO.
The 'winner' is announced today, Friday, at 10am UK time apparently. What a joke of a prize anyway. This gives them lots of PR for their stupid, meaningless award.
So true. For some lame reason, it was awarded to Obama, and then two weeks later he signs off on a $1.5 trillion program to upgrade our nuclear arsenal? That's having your yellow cake and eating it too, n'est-ce pas?
I think not, for without US support, both diplomatic and militarily, Israel is crippled. And if they resumed after he got the prize, he would see this as lack of loyalty, his most cherished demand of others, and he would threaten to end US support. Israel is aware of this, so the only question is whether he will agree with Israel when some act of violence occurs, most likely by the ISIS linked criminal gang Israel hired and armed to impersonate Hamas, which will be blamed on Hamas, and if Trump falls for it, he will say something like: Hamas has violated the agreement and all hellfire will come down on them like never before in history. That is the gamble Hamas is making, its other option to refuse the deal and give Israel, with Trump's blessings, the green light to intensify the slaughter. I hope I am wrong.....
Well both of them want the real estate. I would guess they made a deal to stop now so he could get the prize, he hopes, and then what you describe will happen. The insanity and evil makes my head explode. And why would they give him the peace prize? Everyone knows he's an absolute deranged devil.
"Trump has gone on record to say that “Bibi took it very far and Israel lost a lot of support in the world. Now I am gonna get all that support back.” " let him try. I think he's dreaming, but I don't think he's prepared to take the necessary steps. He needs to cut off the supply of weapons, he needs to pressure israel to make reparations for what they've done as well as making reparations for the US's role, and he needs to come up with a plan on how to ensure accountability and also to deradicalise Israeli society. Without these changes he has to rely on marketing to a sceptical public that can't unsee what it has seen. People remember traumatic events more than positive experiences, and even for those who are not Palestinians the last two years has changed our brains, not only from what we have witnessed, but also what it tells us about the world we live in and the systems we have been taught to believe in.
You are so correct. At least those of us who have compassionate and empathetic souls have been traumatized and cannot unsee what has been seen. Not to mention how many folks have saved to their own personal archives. It's in the historical record, no matter how much they may try to re-write history.
The world will forget and return to the Zionist brainwashed society we have been crafted into. We are a brutal species destined to repeat the past no matter how much we decry it.
You might be right, but the sheer cumulative load of what so many have seen over the last couple of years may well bring about a type of vicarious trauma, though not strictly what the literature refers to, and this potentially will affect a huge section of society, and possibly most frequently younger people. This has the potential to have a lasting impact. While its no doubt true that many may move on, those who have not already turned away are less likely to do so, and their shit detectors will already be primed for any propaganda that tries to gloss over this.
This is true. But the general public WANT to forget. I know many who have looked away from the start, as the truth is too awful for them to face. They will be desperate to believe it's ok to accept Israel again. This is my fear.
Will they be desperate to accept israel, or will they veer more towards neutrality? Not that there's that much difference, mind you. I know people like that, who once the genocide started (probably before Xmas 2023) rather than being pro israel they just didn't want to talk about it. I think the shock probably means they would be hard pressed to defend israel, but the “neutral” stance feels safe to them. And i doubt that people like me help that situation.
Israel doesn't know what truth is. They don't know what empathy is. They only know money and looking in the mirror to see "superior" beings. It is really good that the people of Gaza will at least get a bit of food. But the dread comes with our knowledge that the Zionists are liars who will do whatever it takes to get what they think they deserve. And besides all that, Trump wants the Nobel Peace Prize. So maybe it will last long enough for him to at least be nominated by some fool.
The Peace Prize will be announced tomorrow and I’m praying Greta Thunberg gets it. First of all, because she deserves it and secondly, to hear Trump’s response when he realizes he didn’t get it and goes berserk when he hears Greta did.
Listen, with all due respect, as great as Greta is, the actual heros in all this are the Palestinians who've endured and resisted genocide for 2 years and a lifetime of oppression and torment. The person who has been nominated and who should get it is Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya, Palestinian doctor currently held in an Israeli prison being tortured and abused. To put a white Westerner at the forefront of all this (as great as she is) isn't right.
There were so many good candidates who deserve recognition and who do they give it to? A woman who’s a tool of the US and Israel. Maria Machado would sellout her country’s gold and oil assets under the guise of “free markets.” What a pathetic joke this once prestigious award has become.
The point about saving the weapons for Iran raises significant possibilities.
It’s known that the Israelis, and big brother USA, are low on weapons after defending themselves so bravely for two long years in Gaza. But the Israelis have their long-haired Ace in the hole—Sampson—and if their history is any clue, they will provoke Iran into an epic conflict which they can’t win. Then, in time honored fashion, they will “defend themselves”, (poor babies), by using the only weapon they have left.
I am not optimistic.
I am 50% certain that nuclear weapons will be used for the second time in 80 years.
Best case scenario?
“I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Depending on the breaks.”
Everything you say makes perfect sense. But psychopaths have no use for sense. Israeli arrogance has no limits, their maniacal ambitions are their greatest weakness. The damage Netanyahu has done to his own causes is immeasurable. In fact, his delusions are about the only hope the world has, paradoxical though that is.
I do not believe Israel wants to go up against Iran again because after OCT 7, the Israeli public blamed Netanyahu (who had supported Hamas for 14 yrs and allowed the attack to take place) but he survived with war as his shield. But the "12 Day War" with Iran was abruptly called off because one thing Israeli's will not tolerate is another massacre, especially in Tel Aviv. The failure of the Iron Dome to stop Iranian missiles from landing was another blow to the impression Israeli's were protected, untouchable.
"As of June 30, 2025, Iranian missile strikes have caused significant damage to buildings in Tel Aviv. According to Haaretz, approximately 480 buildings have been damaged across five separate sites within the city.
Haaretz
These attacks have resulted in extensive structural damage, fires, and significant displacement of residents.
This shock to the public terrified Netanyahu who saw his grasp on power hanging by a thread and so he called off the Israeli attacks in order to save his political career. He has underestimated the damage Iran could do and feared the public would not put with a second massacre. And so he caved in. I do not think he is wiling to risk another Iranian attack exposing the vulnerability of the Israeli public and his own hold on power. IMHO,.
Netanyahu has used war as his shield because once there is peace, he will be ousted and perhaps go to prison in his 3 corruption trials, one of which had 300 adverse witnesses now narrowed down to 60. He has used war to stay in power...and it is my suspicion he will find a reason blaming it on Hamas to start up the war, because peace is his enemy.
Everything you say makes perfect sense. But psychopaths have no use for sense. Israeli arrogance has no limits, their maniacal ambitions are their greatest weakness. The damage Netanyahu has done to his own causes is immeasurable. In fact, his delusions are about the only hope the world has, paradoxical though that is.
It’s a terrifying possibility but I wouldn’t put it past them. I think one of the reasons Netanyahu has kept Trump so completely under his thumb is behind closed doors he’s made this exact threat. I don’t know this for a fact of course, it’s just a gut-level suspicion.
Trump lusts for power; he will not tolerate defiance by Netanyahu tho he may buy into the lies or false flags Netanyahu throws up to blame Hamas for violating the agreement to resume the genocide. This is not Trump under Netanyahu's thumb but Trump too stupid to see the how he has been tricked..so more like Netanyahu's thumb up his ass.
This is the only thing I can concentrate on at the moment: Humanitarian aid being allowed into the enclave. If food and medicines and medical aid aren't allowed into Gaza, then nothing else will matter. Even if the bombing stops, if aid isn't swift in getting to those who need it, they won't survive.
Trump's idea of a "lasting peace" is probably only a ploy to get his Levantine Rivera plans going, but if we can save Palestinian lives and keep the IOF out of Gaza, then there's a chance of Palestine becoming free with the help of the Uniting for Peace resolution that Pres. Petro made at the UN being passed by a 2/3 majority of nations. Keep the pressure up on the United Nations! https://lifelineforpalestine.com/
I liked your concise summary: 'Whenever Israelis get a ceasefire agreement they go, “This means we have to hurry up and kill as many people as possible before it takes effect.” But it does appear that the killing and abuse will at least diminish for a time, which is an objectively good thing no matter how you slice it.'
Given how much the world pretends to accept Israel's evident lies, and is complicit with supplying Israel's ongoing genocide, I estimate that the recidivist Genocide State of Israel (and its white, racist Zionist allies) will only honor this agreement until they can hasbara enough of the local and imported paranoid white settlers to go on another genocidal rampage of native Palestinians.
The local and imported Zionist/Crusader murderers and hasbarists/psyops have seen how much the young are (mesarvot) refusing their genocide, and cannot see a continued Zionist dominance of Israel and its illegally occupied lands unless they fake peace for long enough for everyone to forget their current genocide, and return their wounded and traumatised to a sufficiently genocidal force once more. I predict they will continue their usual slower, subtler ethnic cleansing, with regular 'anti-terrorist' slaughters, since those have been supported (financially, politically, culturally, militarily) by the Anglo Imperialist mob and their White supremacist and Zionist communities since 1948.
I ask readers to continue to Boycott, Divest, and Sanction the Israel Genocide until they have returned their illegal armed settlers and forces back to the pre-1967 boundaries, which is the LEAST Israel owes its native genocide victims. I also ask that we continue protesting (and holding vigils, and writing letters, etc) until the deeply apartheid state of Israel ends it apartheid.
If food and medicine, tents, clean water and gas can be replenished it would be a blessing for as long as it lasts. My guess, based on the fact the same psychos are in charge, is Netanyahu wants time to get a firmer grip on TikTok and all the media because he wants as few pictures as possible coming out of Gaza and the West Bank. I would guess too sacrificing the hostages no longer is a good option politically for him.
It’s hard to say how long before they resume the assault but Netanyahu is not going to agree to a permanent peace deal and he stated clearly only a week ago Palestinians will never have a two-state solution offer on the table.
I do not believe, much as I wish it to be true, that Israel will stop the murders or keep their word about anything the say they have agreed to ever. Not until they are disbanded and no longer anywhere near Palestine. They have not at anytime shown they could be trusted, even God did not trust them so why should we allow them to think they have fooled us again? We should make it absutely clear that they are thw pariahs of the world and no onw wants anything to do with them -- because habitual liars never stop, especially when they think they've won again.
We must make it known we DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD THEY SAY, now or ever and Drumpf will never get any trust back, not for them, not for him the lying duo have done too much harm already and it would be to our detriment to forget and unforgiveble to forgive.
This "Peace deal/Ceasfire" is a farce. The same guy who posted a video of him taking over the beaches of Gaza with casinos is being trusted to make a peace deal that will benefit the Palestinians? Seriously? This is another Zionist controlled smoke screen to continue their ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians and the theft of their land.
It shouldn't be at all surprising that liars lie. So we need to assume that everything they say is a lie and that Israel will continue lie and deceive until they just can't lie and deceive any more. In other words if they are able to lie, it is a lie. Treat it as such, and conduct thyself accordingly.
Hi A
One cannot spell “Israelies” without “lies”.
One cannot spell Hamas without ham, which is forbidden for Muslims. Which just goes to prove?
Agreed.
And to compound the matter, you have a narcissistic sociopath who wants to "win" the Nobel Peace Prize for no other reason than 1) Obama (whom he loathes so much) got it back in 2009 for no good reason and 2) it's just another shiny new object for Big Daddy to flaunt on his social network.
It won't be long before he has his minions planning to carve out more space on Mount Rushmore. And if that isn't feasible, I'm sure he can find ways to "erase" one or more of the "loser" Presidents currently occupying the real estate.
Of course, it doesn't need to be said that Trump, following Biden's lead, actively armed Israel to the teeth.
I will seriously lose my mind if these fucking liberal elites is Oslo even think that a war criminal like Trump deserves anything else but a trip to the Hague.
The amount of sycophantical behavior by world leaders since Trump won re-election makes my stomach turn
Yowza, yowza!
It sure does take a toll. Partly because of the 2 years of hell we’ve witnessed and partly because of the dread we feel about what’s next.
It sure does take its toll even though we are not even living in Gaza but it woke us all up to how corrupt Governments are and the Empire that rules around the world .Hard to come to terms with our Western civilisation being complicit in Genocide
Western civilizations have always been complicit in genocide. Look what happened to the Native Americans, the east Indians, the Congolese, the Aboriginal peoples of Australia...
Some thoughts (of mine) that go counter to the narratives (of ceasefire) of the West ->
(1) No one really cares about the Israeli hostages (other than their families) - not Trump, not Netanyahu, and not the elites of America and Israel. This ceasefire is not about hostages.
(2) From recent past history, we know that Israel has NEVER managed to maintain the ceasefire for more than a day (and even then they continued killing Palestinians - though discreetly). They never lived up to ceasefires in Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, or anywhere else.
(3) I highly doubt that Israel will be releasing too many Palestinian prisoners. Their goal has ALWAYS been ethnic cleansing. Releasing all the Palestinian prisons will lead to an increase in the non-Jewish population, which is something Israel doesn't want.
(4) Israel will find ways TO CONTINUE killing Palestinians (in Gaza and elsewhere) under different methods (ceasefire or not) - in prisons, in the West Bank, and even in Gaza (as long as there are no cameras/reporters to record it). This has been their behavior. I don't expect them to change this just because Trump said some words.
(5) Israel may use this 'down-time' (they're calling it a ceasefire?) to regroup and prepare for an assault on Iran (as Israel will be unable to attain its goal of Eretz Israel unless they make Iran into a rump state).
(6) Israel will continue displacing Palestinians (from Gaza and the West Bank) while this cease-fire is supposedly going on. A cease-fire might provide a lull in the genocide, but I doubt it would do much to slow down the ethnic-cleansing.
(7) Israel (and the U.S.) are attempting to use neo-colonial strategies to conquer all of Gaza (hint: they want Tony Blair and Trump to take charge of Gaza instead of any Palestinian factions).
(8) Trump still very much has his focus on 'real-estate' in Gaza (after all, Trump is Trump) - hence the situation for Gazans is unlikely to improve.
(9) Israel may continue 'this facade of cease-fire' while continuing to prevent aid, food, medical supplies, life necessities like electricity/water from reaching Gazans, thus continuing the genocide of Gazans by means of starvation, etc.
(10) Trump seems to desperately want is 'Nobel Peace Prize'. This may be his strategy to try for one. I hope people see the 'fakery' for what it is. Trump (and Netanyahu) deserve the 'death prize' (if there is any such thing).
All-in-all, IMHO, this is likely to be a FAKE ceasefire (in the sense that Palestinians will continue to be ethnically cleansed and genocided by other means than outright military action), and I still harbor doubts about how long even this 'fake ceasefire' will last...
Chang
A message to Caitlin and Tim.
Take the weekend off, this coming weekend. Have a break while you can.
Forget about Gaza. Forget about the lying Israel, Forget about the totally corrupted USA.
It is tempting for me to leave it there. But the one item you cannot dismiss is history (it repeats itself) and the details of the Israel game plan, written over 100 years ago....and by now, known to all.
The History. 80 years since WWII for Israel, all taken up with planning the very thing that we are all witnessing today. Is it Step # 5, # 8, #16.....who cares about the number. . A ceasefire conjured up in this case to give some breathing space to TRUMP to assist his quest for a Nobel Peace Prize, 2025 but also some time for the Trumpanyahu government to move into the next step of the lie to end all lies.
The Facts. Listen to the right wing (sorry, extreme rightwing Nazi - like) Israeli politicians who are virtually saying….. 'can't wait for this bit of make believe to be over’ …..so we can get back to the real objective, the details of which one really doesn't have to itemise here as 'we all really know what will happens next'.
Even the highly respected Caitlin and Tim must be really thinking.....how long?.
In Israel. We have the hostages back, so now we have the support of all in Israel. No more questioning of our plans and actions. As for Trump and his Nobel prize? He can wait until next year. He will do what he is told. We have that side of things well covered, believe me.
Here we go then. We have a country called Palestine we have to turn into rubble with good old reliable Western support whose governments are always there with us, one and all.
20 years from now, all just a distant memory (when you control the media)
Unfortunately, this is all quite obvious and I think we'd be foolish to allow ourselves to hope for something else
To borrow from Paul Harvey, "And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the rest of the story."
To borrow from Paul Harvey, "And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the rest of the story."
It's a huge conundrum. The Palestinians have suffered insufferable brutality and they want the bombing to stop. Yet, by the same token they know they cannot trust the Israeli Regime and they certainly cannot trust the USA. So they are caught between a rock and a hard place. They've lost so much, schools, churches, mosques, universities, hospitals and whole families have been wiped out. They are surrounded by rubble filled with toxic waste and who knows how many bodies buried underneath. They have been denied the resources to clean it up themselves. Is the world community willing and able to do the clean up for them? Even the big fat cats who are licking their lips over the "prospects" of what this prized beach front property will bring millions if not billions to their coffers. Some say it will take 15-25 years to clean it up and rebuild. Meanwhile, Israeli real estate agents are selling land like they landed on the moon and carved up pieces for sale. None of it matters, because it's the gain in the moment, not the future reconstruction. The promises of reconstruction fall apart, look at Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere else the war machine has devastated the area. It's not even about regime change, they just want the Palestinians gone and forgotten.
Then there's the absorption of these worn torn highly traumatized individuals into other countries. Many of them severely injured, mentally, emotionally and physically, with Gaza having more child amputees per capita than in recorded history. They've starved them to the point that even the food aid cannot arrest the physical damage done to their bodies due to malnutrition.
What can they do? What should they do? They simply want the bombing to stop. They want to believe that they can recover their lives and rebuild their homes and communities. Without sincere, genuine and honest support from the world community, they will be at the mercy of the genocidal entity that has had its noose around their neck for decades.
Recovery from this Holocaust will take decades if not centuries, as much as I wish I had a magic wand to make it all better for them overnight.
Israel Apologists Have No Foundational Argument. The Zionist Jews Have Made the Holocaust of the Jews Irrelevant by the 21st Century Holocaust of the Palestinians.
Conclusion: It Has Never Been About What Happened on October 7, 2023. It Has Always Been About the Extermination of the Palestinians. https://topicsfromatoz.substack.com/p/israel-apologists-have-no-foundational
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Being forced at gun point to accept a decree written by those who are murdering you can not last. I believe it is similar to the treaties that turned WW1 into WW2 because they were one sided and devastating to the vanquished side. This ceasefire is a lie within a lie within a conspiracy.
Spot on.
We have to keep the pressure up. I'm so sick of this BS.
Keep up the pressure on the UN! They need to pass a Uniting for Peace resolution. More info at lifelineforpalestine.com
For sure!
Hamas has not agreed to disarm until a Palestinian state is established, something the current regime in Israle has stated will never happen. Hamas, faced with genocide or gambling that Trump will keep his word to prevent Israel from restarting the massacre, has taken the gamble, having given up the leverage of the hostages, which brought the Israel public railing against Netanyahu's consistent sabotage of hostage deals. It is not giving up its right to resist, tho that resistance is offered at the price of genocide, a devil's dilemma.
It is my suspicion, and I hope I am wrong, that Netanyahu will find a pretext to resume the massacre, blaming Hamas. He has hired a criminal gang to do false flag acts of violence to blame on Hamas, so the cast is in place as is the di.
It is deeply ironic that if this works, it is because of Trump's egomaniacal desire to win the Nobel Peace Prize by ending the war. Hamas is gambling that his hubris will protect them......and we know that the only hope is that Trump's lust for the Peace Prize will embolden him to clamp down on the Zionist monsters in Israel...but then again, he is known as TACO.
When would the Prize be awarded? That is when the slaughter will resume.
The 'winner' is announced today, Friday, at 10am UK time apparently. What a joke of a prize anyway. This gives them lots of PR for their stupid, meaningless award.
"What a joke of a prize anyway."
So true. For some lame reason, it was awarded to Obama, and then two weeks later he signs off on a $1.5 trillion program to upgrade our nuclear arsenal? That's having your yellow cake and eating it too, n'est-ce pas?
So true. If the nazi oaf gets it it will mean even less. Like rhe Medal of Honor going to Rush Limbaugh.
I think not, for without US support, both diplomatic and militarily, Israel is crippled. And if they resumed after he got the prize, he would see this as lack of loyalty, his most cherished demand of others, and he would threaten to end US support. Israel is aware of this, so the only question is whether he will agree with Israel when some act of violence occurs, most likely by the ISIS linked criminal gang Israel hired and armed to impersonate Hamas, which will be blamed on Hamas, and if Trump falls for it, he will say something like: Hamas has violated the agreement and all hellfire will come down on them like never before in history. That is the gamble Hamas is making, its other option to refuse the deal and give Israel, with Trump's blessings, the green light to intensify the slaughter. I hope I am wrong.....
Well both of them want the real estate. I would guess they made a deal to stop now so he could get the prize, he hopes, and then what you describe will happen. The insanity and evil makes my head explode. And why would they give him the peace prize? Everyone knows he's an absolute deranged devil.
Hamas was created BY Israel: there exists NO reason to believe it is otherwise today.https://youtu.be/27esxkQtfTc?si=QL1qqRUect4q9y3n
"Trump has gone on record to say that “Bibi took it very far and Israel lost a lot of support in the world. Now I am gonna get all that support back.” " let him try. I think he's dreaming, but I don't think he's prepared to take the necessary steps. He needs to cut off the supply of weapons, he needs to pressure israel to make reparations for what they've done as well as making reparations for the US's role, and he needs to come up with a plan on how to ensure accountability and also to deradicalise Israeli society. Without these changes he has to rely on marketing to a sceptical public that can't unsee what it has seen. People remember traumatic events more than positive experiences, and even for those who are not Palestinians the last two years has changed our brains, not only from what we have witnessed, but also what it tells us about the world we live in and the systems we have been taught to believe in.
You are so correct. At least those of us who have compassionate and empathetic souls have been traumatized and cannot unsee what has been seen. Not to mention how many folks have saved to their own personal archives. It's in the historical record, no matter how much they may try to re-write history.
The world will forget and return to the Zionist brainwashed society we have been crafted into. We are a brutal species destined to repeat the past no matter how much we decry it.
You might be right, but the sheer cumulative load of what so many have seen over the last couple of years may well bring about a type of vicarious trauma, though not strictly what the literature refers to, and this potentially will affect a huge section of society, and possibly most frequently younger people. This has the potential to have a lasting impact. While its no doubt true that many may move on, those who have not already turned away are less likely to do so, and their shit detectors will already be primed for any propaganda that tries to gloss over this.
Sadly this is my prediction
This is true. But the general public WANT to forget. I know many who have looked away from the start, as the truth is too awful for them to face. They will be desperate to believe it's ok to accept Israel again. This is my fear.
Will they be desperate to accept israel, or will they veer more towards neutrality? Not that there's that much difference, mind you. I know people like that, who once the genocide started (probably before Xmas 2023) rather than being pro israel they just didn't want to talk about it. I think the shock probably means they would be hard pressed to defend israel, but the “neutral” stance feels safe to them. And i doubt that people like me help that situation.
Here's hoping for a well deserved rest for you, Caitlin, but most of all for the people of Gaza, always in our hearts. ♥️
Israel doesn't know what truth is. They don't know what empathy is. They only know money and looking in the mirror to see "superior" beings. It is really good that the people of Gaza will at least get a bit of food. But the dread comes with our knowledge that the Zionists are liars who will do whatever it takes to get what they think they deserve. And besides all that, Trump wants the Nobel Peace Prize. So maybe it will last long enough for him to at least be nominated by some fool.
The Peace Prize will be announced tomorrow and I’m praying Greta Thunberg gets it. First of all, because she deserves it and secondly, to hear Trump’s response when he realizes he didn’t get it and goes berserk when he hears Greta did.
ha ha. we all need something to laugh at these days. I would love that. Let's all hope.
Is the Nobel prize for the previous year 2024?. There is no peace in Palestine at the moment and not likely to be ever while Israel exists.
Listen, with all due respect, as great as Greta is, the actual heros in all this are the Palestinians who've endured and resisted genocide for 2 years and a lifetime of oppression and torment. The person who has been nominated and who should get it is Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya, Palestinian doctor currently held in an Israeli prison being tortured and abused. To put a white Westerner at the forefront of all this (as great as she is) isn't right.
There were so many good candidates who deserve recognition and who do they give it to? A woman who’s a tool of the US and Israel. Maria Machado would sellout her country’s gold and oil assets under the guise of “free markets.” What a pathetic joke this once prestigious award has become.
I, also, would award it to Greta or to Francesca Albanese
The point about saving the weapons for Iran raises significant possibilities.
It’s known that the Israelis, and big brother USA, are low on weapons after defending themselves so bravely for two long years in Gaza. But the Israelis have their long-haired Ace in the hole—Sampson—and if their history is any clue, they will provoke Iran into an epic conflict which they can’t win. Then, in time honored fashion, they will “defend themselves”, (poor babies), by using the only weapon they have left.
I am not optimistic.
I am 50% certain that nuclear weapons will be used for the second time in 80 years.
Best case scenario?
“I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Depending on the breaks.”
Everything you say makes perfect sense. But psychopaths have no use for sense. Israeli arrogance has no limits, their maniacal ambitions are their greatest weakness. The damage Netanyahu has done to his own causes is immeasurable. In fact, his delusions are about the only hope the world has, paradoxical though that is.
Buck Turgidson knows.
I do not believe Israel wants to go up against Iran again because after OCT 7, the Israeli public blamed Netanyahu (who had supported Hamas for 14 yrs and allowed the attack to take place) but he survived with war as his shield. But the "12 Day War" with Iran was abruptly called off because one thing Israeli's will not tolerate is another massacre, especially in Tel Aviv. The failure of the Iron Dome to stop Iranian missiles from landing was another blow to the impression Israeli's were protected, untouchable.
"As of June 30, 2025, Iranian missile strikes have caused significant damage to buildings in Tel Aviv. According to Haaretz, approximately 480 buildings have been damaged across five separate sites within the city.
Haaretz
These attacks have resulted in extensive structural damage, fires, and significant displacement of residents.
This shock to the public terrified Netanyahu who saw his grasp on power hanging by a thread and so he called off the Israeli attacks in order to save his political career. He has underestimated the damage Iran could do and feared the public would not put with a second massacre. And so he caved in. I do not think he is wiling to risk another Iranian attack exposing the vulnerability of the Israeli public and his own hold on power. IMHO,.
The issue is that any kind of peace or genuine ceasefire *will* see N and company arrested and tried in an International Court Of Justice session.
Netanyahu has used war as his shield because once there is peace, he will be ousted and perhaps go to prison in his 3 corruption trials, one of which had 300 adverse witnesses now narrowed down to 60. He has used war to stay in power...and it is my suspicion he will find a reason blaming it on Hamas to start up the war, because peace is his enemy.
That's also true.
But Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons (yet). The genocidal entity does.
Everything you say makes perfect sense. But psychopaths have no use for sense. Israeli arrogance has no limits, their maniacal ambitions are their greatest weakness. The damage Netanyahu has done to his own causes is immeasurable. In fact, his delusions are about the only hope the world has, paradoxical though that is.
It’s a terrifying possibility but I wouldn’t put it past them. I think one of the reasons Netanyahu has kept Trump so completely under his thumb is behind closed doors he’s made this exact threat. I don’t know this for a fact of course, it’s just a gut-level suspicion.
Trump lusts for power; he will not tolerate defiance by Netanyahu tho he may buy into the lies or false flags Netanyahu throws up to blame Hamas for violating the agreement to resume the genocide. This is not Trump under Netanyahu's thumb but Trump too stupid to see the how he has been tricked..so more like Netanyahu's thumb up his ass.
Trump is neither under the thumb nor is there a thumb up his ass. Israel and Netanyahu are the attack dog. The US and Trump hold the leash.
I sure hope you're wrong. But the truth niggles 😞
This is the only thing I can concentrate on at the moment: Humanitarian aid being allowed into the enclave. If food and medicines and medical aid aren't allowed into Gaza, then nothing else will matter. Even if the bombing stops, if aid isn't swift in getting to those who need it, they won't survive.
Trump's idea of a "lasting peace" is probably only a ploy to get his Levantine Rivera plans going, but if we can save Palestinian lives and keep the IOF out of Gaza, then there's a chance of Palestine becoming free with the help of the Uniting for Peace resolution that Pres. Petro made at the UN being passed by a 2/3 majority of nations. Keep the pressure up on the United Nations! https://lifelineforpalestine.com/
I liked your concise summary: 'Whenever Israelis get a ceasefire agreement they go, “This means we have to hurry up and kill as many people as possible before it takes effect.” But it does appear that the killing and abuse will at least diminish for a time, which is an objectively good thing no matter how you slice it.'
Given how much the world pretends to accept Israel's evident lies, and is complicit with supplying Israel's ongoing genocide, I estimate that the recidivist Genocide State of Israel (and its white, racist Zionist allies) will only honor this agreement until they can hasbara enough of the local and imported paranoid white settlers to go on another genocidal rampage of native Palestinians.
The local and imported Zionist/Crusader murderers and hasbarists/psyops have seen how much the young are (mesarvot) refusing their genocide, and cannot see a continued Zionist dominance of Israel and its illegally occupied lands unless they fake peace for long enough for everyone to forget their current genocide, and return their wounded and traumatised to a sufficiently genocidal force once more. I predict they will continue their usual slower, subtler ethnic cleansing, with regular 'anti-terrorist' slaughters, since those have been supported (financially, politically, culturally, militarily) by the Anglo Imperialist mob and their White supremacist and Zionist communities since 1948.
I ask readers to continue to Boycott, Divest, and Sanction the Israel Genocide until they have returned their illegal armed settlers and forces back to the pre-1967 boundaries, which is the LEAST Israel owes its native genocide victims. I also ask that we continue protesting (and holding vigils, and writing letters, etc) until the deeply apartheid state of Israel ends it apartheid.
https://www.greenleft.org.au/2025/1438/news/nationwide-protest-stand-gaza
If food and medicine, tents, clean water and gas can be replenished it would be a blessing for as long as it lasts. My guess, based on the fact the same psychos are in charge, is Netanyahu wants time to get a firmer grip on TikTok and all the media because he wants as few pictures as possible coming out of Gaza and the West Bank. I would guess too sacrificing the hostages no longer is a good option politically for him.
It’s hard to say how long before they resume the assault but Netanyahu is not going to agree to a permanent peace deal and he stated clearly only a week ago Palestinians will never have a two-state solution offer on the table.
I do not believe, much as I wish it to be true, that Israel will stop the murders or keep their word about anything the say they have agreed to ever. Not until they are disbanded and no longer anywhere near Palestine. They have not at anytime shown they could be trusted, even God did not trust them so why should we allow them to think they have fooled us again? We should make it absutely clear that they are thw pariahs of the world and no onw wants anything to do with them -- because habitual liars never stop, especially when they think they've won again.
We must make it known we DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD THEY SAY, now or ever and Drumpf will never get any trust back, not for them, not for him the lying duo have done too much harm already and it would be to our detriment to forget and unforgiveble to forgive.
This "Peace deal/Ceasfire" is a farce. The same guy who posted a video of him taking over the beaches of Gaza with casinos is being trusted to make a peace deal that will benefit the Palestinians? Seriously? This is another Zionist controlled smoke screen to continue their ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians and the theft of their land.
Are oddsmakers taking bets on how long the ceasefire lasts?
"What ceasefire?" is your answer
Probably, along with the snuff films they are watching and betting on as well.