Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?
Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
• In an interview with Gilbert in Göring's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)
We now see in today's article the actions of Australian scare mongering newspapers. This is the identical approach used by Zionists. If anyone criticises Israel, we see the use of the good old reliable old anti-Semtic game. Nowadays, mention China and you are a supporter of the Chinese Communist Party.
Together with the well orchestrated Holocaust dine-outs, in train for 75 years and still the well planned subject of a Hollywood blockbuster every year. Standard practice.
Yes, a highly respected past Prime Minister Paul Keating is called a mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist Party. He questioned the propaganda the we have seen over the past week, all major papers included. A well orchestrated plan by the part-American ranks of militarists, posing as independent “experts” all pushing the same line. Of course Murdoch is in there, boots and all as one would expect along with the Sydney Morning Herald, once a respected publication and its Melbourne-based sister, The Age, both now owned by a commercial network of football promoters.
Joseph Goebbels lookalikes are certainly alive and well and producing newspapers in Australia as are his mirror-like propaganda operators, the Israeli Neocons in charge of the US government’s military plans and objectives. The same ones who shout from the rooftops "We own America” and indeed they do. But say a single word about apartheid in Palestine, the 400 nuclear warheads in stock at Dimona, any single aspect of Jewish influence (control) in both houses of the Jewish /American Congress and House of Representatives and you are anti-Semitic, given headline condemnation on the front pages of all the Jewish owned media and in the publications by fellow-travellers like Murdoch and so many others. The media whores, everywhere.
These days not in any way the America we have known in the days of JFK, or similarly in Australia, the days of Paul Keating. The US is now a fully controlled puppet of Netanyahu and his rightwing inhumanists with a US controlled United Nations sitting on its hands, doing nothing. Australia, tagging along as is usual. No one tags along better than Australia.
But if criticism of Israel is ipso facto antisemitism, then by that logic all Jews everywhere must be responsible for Israel's crimes. Can't have it both ways.
Sure you can. That's how propaganda works! It bastes lie after lie over a truth until the truth becomes so deformed it cannot be recognized.
I am not Holocaust denier or antisemite either, but anytime I see "Jew" in a news article my blood pressure increases.
Somewhat similar to someone who can't stand tequila because of one night long ago of too much indulgence, the decades and decades of propaganda about the purity of Jews and Israel has been turned on them by propagandists that are smarter than they were.
Jews migrated to Israel and turned the holocaust against them into a holocaust directed at the Palestinians.
The Oligarchy is laughing all the way to the bank. It is how they remain in power.
One can have it both ways because logic has nothing to do with the question.
Let me repeat that in a different way. You are applying logic. Propaganda has nothing to do with logic.
I have to say it because this is where we are in the US, "They will do it Anyway"! The Warmongering Whores in control of your government are the same filth as are in control of ours. They commit crimes right out in the open, make laws against us, violate our constitution and the heads filled with the propaganda of years just continue to bob. There is not going to be a pleasant way out of this. They are Sociopaths and violence is always their answer.
This tactic to limit or shutdown comments entirely on articles and posts created to shape a narrative is now the norm. From the big legacy news outlets such as NYT, Wapo, and LA Times, to social media accounts, it’s become almost a trope that if comments are limited or suspended, one knows this is a signal that whatever opinion or news piece is official dogma from the regime.
I just read Matt Taibbi's response/report to the Senate Judiciary Committee. I saw a article that the FTC has demanded all the files and a list of all the journalists who had access to them! I can see already where this will go because they are the very criminals who did this so prison for journalist is a standard for this filth and they will just bury what Matt showed and him along with it. This bunch of criminals do crime right out in the open and 51% or more will go along with calling them traitors!
Dear Caitlin—I sincerely hope your country does institute national service—there’s nothing like it for waking up the people! I wish we had a draft. People are always asking where did our American Anti-war movement go? It went the way of the draft. People everywhere are selfish and self centered—they don’t do anything until THEIR ox is gored. Start the draft and WATCH them pour into the streets.
Thank you !! An Empire of Lies as intelligent Putin calls it. All masks are falling - we live in a bipartisan fascist country.
-- Russia-gate immense 5-year long hoax – directly led to “unprovoked” tragedy in Ukraine (as an independent state Ukraine disappeared in 2014 -- its Nazi-dominated government is a US puppet)
-- US terrorist attack on a key Germany’s infrastructure – a step to end of NATO and EU
-- Twitter Files censorship revelations – an exponentially larger crime that Watergate
-- Jan. 6 DNC/FBI choreographed hoax
-- US lab designed Covid virus and the resulting economic and human catastrophe
You make the same mistake as the media in personalising this to presidents.
if you look carefully, you will find the common thread is “diplomats” that are anything but, and are clearly three-letter-agency top ranking officers, who regardless of the title they hold in various presidents time in office, are driving the common thread of hostilities, which nobody voted for.
That is what the “deep state” is. Presidents are mere window decoration on the facade of “democracy”.
I think I stated Biden and -- his administration...
Let’s see what will happen today @TC Tonight.
He has a list of hundreds FBI, etc operatives in Jan. 6 scam -- if Deep State forces Murdoch/Fox not to disclose this -- TC might leave Fox and become independent
The relevant people, also did this dirty work before. And they are not his administration. He is THEIR flunky. As would Clinton have been.
As it should’ve clear by now the are no less fascist than the orange one. Their problem with his was merely that he didn’t follow ALL their agenda, specifically war with Russia.
What you think are political leaders are flunkies. Same as with NATO.
"Australia's biggest security problem is that our government and media have been captured by the US military industrial complex."
We need to set a goal that this comment is posted a hundred times a day on a hundred articles with comment boxes until every person in Australia internalizes its truth and wisdom.
And then we need to do the same through out the western world with a slight change of the first word... "Germany's biggest security problem is..." "The UK's biggest security problem is...." "The US's biggest security problem is..."
Propaganda works vey well. The effect is tied into the lemmings phenomenon - or go with the crowd, even if it's headed toward a cliff. The immense suffering of Ukrainians and destruction of their country is convincing testimony, all on its own. Colonel MacGregor believes perhaps at least half the population has been killed, wounded, or left. Yet the West that considers itself morally superior, keeps flogging away at war, and "beating" the Russians. It manifests in what is a criminal organization pretending to be a purely defence organization when it is clearly offensive, and follows no rules except those of expedience: NATO. No Alternative To Oblivion. But at some point the propaganda bullhorns must lose their power - the truth is no longer deniable. At that point many Western "leaders" will have to account for their reprehensible actions.
It is really sad that propaganda works so well. It is the methodology of the war mongering media. The same tactics cults use to manufacture consent. Peer pressure, insults, dismisal of valid dissent, and patriotism are all forms of it.
Why do I say it's sad? Well, it is blatantly obvious, the same predictible tactics over and over. Oddly, part of the extreme repetition is also what makes them so effective. Repeated exposure really does put some under its influence.
You pointed out a 6 percent drop in 2 years in Australia was because they were slammed with propaganda. That's now a narrow majority of people against the war...It needs to move in the other direction, which is what you are making your best efforts to accomplish.
Who does the war benefit? Not the every day person on either side. It is the oligarchs and war mongering corporate entities. To incite fear in people is the one aspect. Fear on the unknown persons hurting them. Russia and China are conspiring to hurt US citizens...Funny that people believe that obsurdity.
The people of the United States are largely ignorant of the reality of the world(its affairs) because our governments keep most isolated. We boarder two countries, Mexico and Canada. You will hear largely the same steretypical views about either country. Ask most about European countries, they draw blanks.
The only thing I disagree with is that I really do think they manufacture consent for fun, in a sociopathic pleasure. Of course the reasons you outline are completely valid, just that I don't think the war mongers are remotely close to normal people. Taking a certain satisfaction and glee in doing these things.
We may well be reaching the point where the empire governments will not care about how people feel about what they are doing and what they plan to do. They might just start doing it and worry about the consequences later. That's what they did with covid restrictions; it didn't matter whether or not populations agreed with or supported those totalitarian measures; they took them anyway, at the point of a gun. Won't it be just as easy in the future to wage a war if they are successful in hiding what they're doing?
This is exactly right - pearls of wisdom like this are why I read here:
"If our rulers just started acting directly against the will of the people without first psychologically pulling the wool over our eyes using propaganda, they'd have a revolution on their hands in short order."
We were reminded of the words of Vaclev Havel, who wrote that, to live in truth:
"… you do not become a “dissident” just because you decide one day to take up this most unusual career. You are thrown into it by your personal sense of responsibility, combined with a complex set of external circumstances. You are cast out of the existing structures and placed in a position of conflict with them. It begins as an attempt to do your work well, and ends with being branded an enemy of society. […]
By breaking the rules of the game, he has disrupted the game as such. He has exposed it as a mere game. He has shattered the world of appearances, the fundamental pillar of the system. He has upset the power structure by tearing apart what holds it together. He has demonstrated that living a lie is living a lie. He has broken through the exalted facade of the system and exposed the real, base foundations of power. He has said that the emperor is naked. And because the emperor is in fact naked, something extremely dangerous has happened: by his action, the greengrocer has addressed the world. He has enabled everyone to peer behind the curtain. He has shown everyone that it is possible to live within the truth. Living within the lie can constitute the system only if it is universal. The principle must embrace and permeate everything. There are no terms whatsoever on which it can co-exist with living within the truth, and therefore everyone who steps out of line denies it in principle and threatens it in its entirety."
It's SO cool, here in the States. It's just another way to suck-up, like Ukrainian flag, blue wave & hypodermic syringe icons on Twitter, designating drooling imbeciles, sneeringly brainwashed churl maskless mouth-breathers & speciously obsequious PMC, yuppie boomers. If we don't BELIEVE, we're with the commie ter'istz!
I was persuaded that governments used the lies because of our gullibility and because they could - for instance in the JFK assignation and 9/11 - but Johnstone suggests it is not merely schadenfreude, it is necessary to govern. I agree.
It is necessary if "to govern" means to govern in the interests of the very rich and powerful: the tiny minority. But that goes against what we claim to believe in: democracy.
I have OCD on this most related topic; watch it once and I imagine you will too. Just as every thinking adult should, imvso: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FjgBBQFmGs 25 min. video
The poll with the change from 57% to 51% is indeed very revealing of the mentality of the false political elite that governs in our democracies submitted to the USA. They don't want to be legitimate, they just want the approval of 50% +1 of the voters. By the way, not even of the voters but of a public opinion fabricated by the polling institutes. Normally, with the Internet, one could imagine that freedom of opinion would be more extensive than before, but it is exactly the opposite that happens: as the Internet in the West is in the hands of American giants under the orders of their government, everything is done to silence divergent opinions. In France, laws have even been passed to criminalize those opinions that follow the government line. Propaganda is in full swing, creating a cacophony in which authorized voices can be heard.
What is disturbing is that even with educated people, it is difficult to challenge the dominant thinking.
Educated people. How did they earn their degrees? By pleasing authority. How do they succeed in the good jobs they got with their degrees? You can guess.
My translation software betrayed me: I was not talking about educated people but about cultured people. Culture, in my opinion, induces a critical mind.
Read the review of Feral Finster. But I also think there is a cumulative effect of propaganda, even on educated people who may find it hard to admit that reputable newspapers like the WP or the NYT could have become so unprofessional and so propagandistic. There is also the idea that democracy is the best of all regimes, but to challenge the elected power in it would be to undermine it and risk a worse regime (Churchill's slogan: "democracy is the worst of all regimes to the exclusion of all others"). Finally, there is also the spirit of freedom, which is almost extinguished in many people's minds.
And because those who are educated are better at symbol manipulation, whether it be sigils on a page, or abstract verbiage, they are prone to confusing the map with the territory (their conceits are more real to them than reality is.) They are also prone to tribalistic groupthink (how dare those deplorable peasants question their authority) and to hubris (it is the job of We, the Anointed, to solve the problems of the world.)
Such people are called midwits. They are a plague on humanity.
Gravity, other than the seriousness and utmost importance of the situation, has nothing to do it. It's density of the propaganda vs the buoyancy of the truth.
Can anyone here refer me to those working on organizing communication and organizing networks once the current internet is taken down?
It seems just a matter of time before they get more aggressive than surveillance, limiting comments, censorship, and taking down individual accounts. Governments have already done so. The writing is on the wall. How will people respond to a total shutdown?
Not well, in the sense of, not in an "orderly" fashion. The internet and more or less free speech is an outlet for frustration and worry. Blocking it might not be a good move on the part of authority.
Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?
Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
• In an interview with Gilbert in Göring's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)
So scary. And pitiful that people can be swayed to cut their own throats.
That only 51% of the Australian public doesn't want to be dragged into the US war on China is mind-blowing.
That's from 2022 and the trend is down, so now maybe even less than half.
We now see in today's article the actions of Australian scare mongering newspapers. This is the identical approach used by Zionists. If anyone criticises Israel, we see the use of the good old reliable old anti-Semtic game. Nowadays, mention China and you are a supporter of the Chinese Communist Party.
Together with the well orchestrated Holocaust dine-outs, in train for 75 years and still the well planned subject of a Hollywood blockbuster every year. Standard practice.
Yes, a highly respected past Prime Minister Paul Keating is called a mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist Party. He questioned the propaganda the we have seen over the past week, all major papers included. A well orchestrated plan by the part-American ranks of militarists, posing as independent “experts” all pushing the same line. Of course Murdoch is in there, boots and all as one would expect along with the Sydney Morning Herald, once a respected publication and its Melbourne-based sister, The Age, both now owned by a commercial network of football promoters.
Joseph Goebbels lookalikes are certainly alive and well and producing newspapers in Australia as are his mirror-like propaganda operators, the Israeli Neocons in charge of the US government’s military plans and objectives. The same ones who shout from the rooftops "We own America” and indeed they do. But say a single word about apartheid in Palestine, the 400 nuclear warheads in stock at Dimona, any single aspect of Jewish influence (control) in both houses of the Jewish /American Congress and House of Representatives and you are anti-Semitic, given headline condemnation on the front pages of all the Jewish owned media and in the publications by fellow-travellers like Murdoch and so many others. The media whores, everywhere.
These days not in any way the America we have known in the days of JFK, or similarly in Australia, the days of Paul Keating. The US is now a fully controlled puppet of Netanyahu and his rightwing inhumanists with a US controlled United Nations sitting on its hands, doing nothing. Australia, tagging along as is usual. No one tags along better than Australia.
I am no Holocaust denier. I am no antisemite.
But if criticism of Israel is ipso facto antisemitism, then by that logic all Jews everywhere must be responsible for Israel's crimes. Can't have it both ways.
Sure you can. That's how propaganda works! It bastes lie after lie over a truth until the truth becomes so deformed it cannot be recognized.
I am not Holocaust denier or antisemite either, but anytime I see "Jew" in a news article my blood pressure increases.
Somewhat similar to someone who can't stand tequila because of one night long ago of too much indulgence, the decades and decades of propaganda about the purity of Jews and Israel has been turned on them by propagandists that are smarter than they were.
Jews migrated to Israel and turned the holocaust against them into a holocaust directed at the Palestinians.
The Oligarchy is laughing all the way to the bank. It is how they remain in power.
One can have it both ways because logic has nothing to do with the question.
Let me repeat that in a different way. You are applying logic. Propaganda has nothing to do with logic.
Of course, propaganda is primarily a matter of force.
"You are applying logic. Propaganda has nothing to do with logic."
I refuse to swallow the Koolaid.
I have to say it because this is where we are in the US, "They will do it Anyway"! The Warmongering Whores in control of your government are the same filth as are in control of ours. They commit crimes right out in the open, make laws against us, violate our constitution and the heads filled with the propaganda of years just continue to bob. There is not going to be a pleasant way out of this. They are Sociopaths and violence is always their answer.
"The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it " - J. Mengele
This tactic to limit or shutdown comments entirely on articles and posts created to shape a narrative is now the norm. From the big legacy news outlets such as NYT, Wapo, and LA Times, to social media accounts, it’s become almost a trope that if comments are limited or suspended, one knows this is a signal that whatever opinion or news piece is official dogma from the regime.
I just read Matt Taibbi's response/report to the Senate Judiciary Committee. I saw a article that the FTC has demanded all the files and a list of all the journalists who had access to them! I can see already where this will go because they are the very criminals who did this so prison for journalist is a standard for this filth and they will just bury what Matt showed and him along with it. This bunch of criminals do crime right out in the open and 51% or more will go along with calling them traitors!
Dear Caitlin—I sincerely hope your country does institute national service—there’s nothing like it for waking up the people! I wish we had a draft. People are always asking where did our American Anti-war movement go? It went the way of the draft. People everywhere are selfish and self centered—they don’t do anything until THEIR ox is gored. Start the draft and WATCH them pour into the streets.
Thank you !! An Empire of Lies as intelligent Putin calls it. All masks are falling - we live in a bipartisan fascist country.
-- Russia-gate immense 5-year long hoax – directly led to “unprovoked” tragedy in Ukraine (as an independent state Ukraine disappeared in 2014 -- its Nazi-dominated government is a US puppet)
-- US terrorist attack on a key Germany’s infrastructure – a step to end of NATO and EU
-- Twitter Files censorship revelations – an exponentially larger crime that Watergate
-- Jan. 6 DNC/FBI choreographed hoax
-- US lab designed Covid virus and the resulting economic and human catastrophe
-- Ukraine is President Obama's war -- https://youtu.be/3pM09HfqHcw
In summary -- Biden and his entire administration are -- deeply corrupt criminals; there is no other way to describe them.
You make the same mistake as the media in personalising this to presidents.
if you look carefully, you will find the common thread is “diplomats” that are anything but, and are clearly three-letter-agency top ranking officers, who regardless of the title they hold in various presidents time in office, are driving the common thread of hostilities, which nobody voted for.
That is what the “deep state” is. Presidents are mere window decoration on the facade of “democracy”.
I think I stated Biden and -- his administration...
Let’s see what will happen today @TC Tonight.
He has a list of hundreds FBI, etc operatives in Jan. 6 scam -- if Deep State forces Murdoch/Fox not to disclose this -- TC might leave Fox and become independent
The relevant people, also did this dirty work before. And they are not his administration. He is THEIR flunky. As would Clinton have been.
As it should’ve clear by now the are no less fascist than the orange one. Their problem with his was merely that he didn’t follow ALL their agenda, specifically war with Russia.
What you think are political leaders are flunkies. Same as with NATO.
This wins internet comment of the year:
"Australia's biggest security problem is that our government and media have been captured by the US military industrial complex."
We need to set a goal that this comment is posted a hundred times a day on a hundred articles with comment boxes until every person in Australia internalizes its truth and wisdom.
And then we need to do the same through out the western world with a slight change of the first word... "Germany's biggest security problem is..." "The UK's biggest security problem is...." "The US's biggest security problem is..."
Propaganda works vey well. The effect is tied into the lemmings phenomenon - or go with the crowd, even if it's headed toward a cliff. The immense suffering of Ukrainians and destruction of their country is convincing testimony, all on its own. Colonel MacGregor believes perhaps at least half the population has been killed, wounded, or left. Yet the West that considers itself morally superior, keeps flogging away at war, and "beating" the Russians. It manifests in what is a criminal organization pretending to be a purely defence organization when it is clearly offensive, and follows no rules except those of expedience: NATO. No Alternative To Oblivion. But at some point the propaganda bullhorns must lose their power - the truth is no longer deniable. At that point many Western "leaders" will have to account for their reprehensible actions.
n.b. Russia has more refugees from Ukraine than does any other country.
True, and I'm sure none are Nazis. Canada though, I'm not so sure about, and we have accepted although not processed, over half a million.
It is really sad that propaganda works so well. It is the methodology of the war mongering media. The same tactics cults use to manufacture consent. Peer pressure, insults, dismisal of valid dissent, and patriotism are all forms of it.
Why do I say it's sad? Well, it is blatantly obvious, the same predictible tactics over and over. Oddly, part of the extreme repetition is also what makes them so effective. Repeated exposure really does put some under its influence.
You pointed out a 6 percent drop in 2 years in Australia was because they were slammed with propaganda. That's now a narrow majority of people against the war...It needs to move in the other direction, which is what you are making your best efforts to accomplish.
Who does the war benefit? Not the every day person on either side. It is the oligarchs and war mongering corporate entities. To incite fear in people is the one aspect. Fear on the unknown persons hurting them. Russia and China are conspiring to hurt US citizens...Funny that people believe that obsurdity.
The people of the United States are largely ignorant of the reality of the world(its affairs) because our governments keep most isolated. We boarder two countries, Mexico and Canada. You will hear largely the same steretypical views about either country. Ask most about European countries, they draw blanks.
The only thing I disagree with is that I really do think they manufacture consent for fun, in a sociopathic pleasure. Of course the reasons you outline are completely valid, just that I don't think the war mongers are remotely close to normal people. Taking a certain satisfaction and glee in doing these things.
We may well be reaching the point where the empire governments will not care about how people feel about what they are doing and what they plan to do. They might just start doing it and worry about the consequences later. That's what they did with covid restrictions; it didn't matter whether or not populations agreed with or supported those totalitarian measures; they took them anyway, at the point of a gun. Won't it be just as easy in the future to wage a war if they are successful in hiding what they're doing?
This is exactly right - pearls of wisdom like this are why I read here:
"If our rulers just started acting directly against the will of the people without first psychologically pulling the wool over our eyes using propaganda, they'd have a revolution on their hands in short order."
We were reminded of the words of Vaclev Havel, who wrote that, to live in truth:
"… you do not become a “dissident” just because you decide one day to take up this most unusual career. You are thrown into it by your personal sense of responsibility, combined with a complex set of external circumstances. You are cast out of the existing structures and placed in a position of conflict with them. It begins as an attempt to do your work well, and ends with being branded an enemy of society. […]
By breaking the rules of the game, he has disrupted the game as such. He has exposed it as a mere game. He has shattered the world of appearances, the fundamental pillar of the system. He has upset the power structure by tearing apart what holds it together. He has demonstrated that living a lie is living a lie. He has broken through the exalted facade of the system and exposed the real, base foundations of power. He has said that the emperor is naked. And because the emperor is in fact naked, something extremely dangerous has happened: by his action, the greengrocer has addressed the world. He has enabled everyone to peer behind the curtain. He has shown everyone that it is possible to live within the truth. Living within the lie can constitute the system only if it is universal. The principle must embrace and permeate everything. There are no terms whatsoever on which it can co-exist with living within the truth, and therefore everyone who steps out of line denies it in principle and threatens it in its entirety."
It's SO cool, here in the States. It's just another way to suck-up, like Ukrainian flag, blue wave & hypodermic syringe icons on Twitter, designating drooling imbeciles, sneeringly brainwashed churl maskless mouth-breathers & speciously obsequious PMC, yuppie boomers. If we don't BELIEVE, we're with the commie ter'istz!
I was persuaded that governments used the lies because of our gullibility and because they could - for instance in the JFK assignation and 9/11 - but Johnstone suggests it is not merely schadenfreude, it is necessary to govern. I agree.
The power of the few requires the surrender of the many. Govern-ment literally means control of mind.
It is necessary if "to govern" means to govern in the interests of the very rich and powerful: the tiny minority. But that goes against what we claim to believe in: democracy.
I have OCD on this most related topic; watch it once and I imagine you will too. Just as every thinking adult should, imvso: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FjgBBQFmGs 25 min. video
The poll with the change from 57% to 51% is indeed very revealing of the mentality of the false political elite that governs in our democracies submitted to the USA. They don't want to be legitimate, they just want the approval of 50% +1 of the voters. By the way, not even of the voters but of a public opinion fabricated by the polling institutes. Normally, with the Internet, one could imagine that freedom of opinion would be more extensive than before, but it is exactly the opposite that happens: as the Internet in the West is in the hands of American giants under the orders of their government, everything is done to silence divergent opinions. In France, laws have even been passed to criminalize those opinions that follow the government line. Propaganda is in full swing, creating a cacophony in which authorized voices can be heard.
What is disturbing is that even with educated people, it is difficult to challenge the dominant thinking.
Educated people. How did they earn their degrees? By pleasing authority. How do they succeed in the good jobs they got with their degrees? You can guess.
My translation software betrayed me: I was not talking about educated people but about cultured people. Culture, in my opinion, induces a critical mind.
Aha. Well if they have a critical mind, then why is it difficult to challenge the dominant thinking?
Read the review of Feral Finster. But I also think there is a cumulative effect of propaganda, even on educated people who may find it hard to admit that reputable newspapers like the WP or the NYT could have become so unprofessional and so propagandistic. There is also the idea that democracy is the best of all regimes, but to challenge the elected power in it would be to undermine it and risk a worse regime (Churchill's slogan: "democracy is the worst of all regimes to the exclusion of all others"). Finally, there is also the spirit of freedom, which is almost extinguished in many people's minds.
Educated humans are, if anything,.ore prone to cognitive dissonance than the dolts, because the educated are better at symbol manipulation.
And because those who are educated are better at symbol manipulation, whether it be sigils on a page, or abstract verbiage, they are prone to confusing the map with the territory (their conceits are more real to them than reality is.) They are also prone to tribalistic groupthink (how dare those deplorable peasants question their authority) and to hubris (it is the job of We, the Anointed, to solve the problems of the world.)
Such people are called midwits. They are a plague on humanity.
Excellent point.
Gravity, other than the seriousness and utmost importance of the situation, has nothing to do it. It's density of the propaganda vs the buoyancy of the truth.
Can anyone here refer me to those working on organizing communication and organizing networks once the current internet is taken down?
It seems just a matter of time before they get more aggressive than surveillance, limiting comments, censorship, and taking down individual accounts. Governments have already done so. The writing is on the wall. How will people respond to a total shutdown?
Not well, in the sense of, not in an "orderly" fashion. The internet and more or less free speech is an outlet for frustration and worry. Blocking it might not be a good move on the part of authority.