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"Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it." THE GRAYZONE

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Susan T's avatar

Why is Charlie Kirk more important than the 23 other Americans who were killed in the same 24 hours from gun violence? 30 journalists were murdered in Yemen. 30 people who were trying to inform the world about what is happening in the Middle East. Charlie Kirk, a racist, homophobic, misogynistic zionist gets all the attention from the mainstream press. It is a symptom of the sickness of our world.

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ALBERT L ROSSI's avatar

I was also going to post this yesterday. I would really love to hear Caitlin's thoughts on this one too.

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Lynn's avatar

Thank You for reporting this information. I guess Caitlin missed it. Because, she sure had some vulgar words to describe Charlie Kirk.

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ALBERT L ROSSI's avatar

Thanks for that. Since I knew nothing about this mouthpiece I had no way of knowing, though I usually take Blumenthal seriously ...

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Jo Waller's avatar

If CK was criticising Israel's influence it only helps to bolster the lie that the tail is wagging the dog and deflect from the dog's owner - the Us based interests in fossil fuels, arms, tech, finance and media etc

In other words he was working for the establishment narrative and not against it.

We're being led to think that Israel wanted to shut him up. Also part of the narrative that this is Israel's and not America's genocide. The US could stop it tomorrow.

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Reno de Caro's avatar

I keep reading that Charlie Kirk, as of late, has been critical of Israel, after supporting their slaughter the first year, and after having received the most significant part of his $40 million budget from Jewish organizations. Anyone with a minimum sense of justice would have realized four weeks after Oct. 7 that what Israel was working towards was a genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. A year after a majority of the young people he was influencing were moving in the opposite direction from him on Israel, he discovered that what Israel was doing was actually wrong. This looks more like opportunism to me than evidence of a slow thinker who required a year to see the obvious.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I keep hearing that Kirk may have changed his tune concerning Israel, but i have seen no clear evidence of such.What evidence has been provided does not support the assertion.

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Jo Waller's avatar

We're meant to think that this proves Israel wanted to shut CK up because he was pointing out Israel's non-existence influence in Washington - the US controls the deformed attack dog known as Israel, not the other way around. Either this was a random attack or we're being led to think that Israel is protecting it's fictional control to deflect from those who are actually in control- ie the US based interests in fossil fuel, arms, pharma, animal ag, finance, AI, drugs and media etc.

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Truth Seeking Missile's avatar

What bullshit. How come this info is always from a "source"? You believe this??? Grayzone wants nothing more - and very little else - than to paint Israel negatively. Now suddenly here is another chance. I also want Israel painted negatively but not by crowning a Satan as a Saint.

Face it, if these "sources" gave a shit about sanitizing Kirk's reputation, they would reveal themselves. But that's not their agenda. So go on believing hearsay that reinforces your already made up mind.

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John Mann's avatar

Am I the only one who tends to think that there is a lot to be said for "De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est"?

I had heard of the guy before he was killed, but knew little about him, and I find it a little strange that so many people are rushing to point out all his faults and failings.

However, I also find it weird the way that so many people have rushed to speak about him as if he was some person who was worthy of great honour - and lowering flags to half mast for him is about as weird as it gets.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I have mostly avoided all this specious talk with regard to Charlie Kirk. I think I am correct in doing so because it's Palestine right now that I focus on and of course France as we go forward with our revolution

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John Mann's avatar

Exactly. With what is going on in Gaza and the West Bank (not to mention Yemen, Lebanon, etc), I find it difficult to take much interest in Kirk.

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Mary's avatar

Unless it's yet another smokescreen to distract people away from the master plan. Poor happiness guy was ideal for the purpose and took one for the team.

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Mary's avatar

*hapless, not happiness. Damn spell checker*

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Here’s hoping that the French people can sustain that revolutionary energy, Jenny. Here in USA, la terra dei cretini, the bubble brains believe that holding candle-light vigils for celebrity charlatans is somehow more important than the other issues of the day.

Viva la rivoluzione

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JennyStokes's avatar

Hi Vin.

There is so much anger everywhere and it was fascinating how the organisers started the call out months ago. Next week all the Trade Unions..

Americans are so 'afeard' of everything.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

The US never really had a revolution as did the French. This is emphasized at the beginning of Chapter 4 of Zinn’s history, where he writes about the cleverness of the founding fathers who “created the most effective system of national control devised in modern times . . . combining paternalism with command”. American revolution was a paternalistic shift of authoritarian control from British elites to colonial elites. Revolution, my ass. Americans simply cannot comprehend its genuine meaning.

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Mikhael's avatar

Agree with you.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Jenny

The MSM here refuses to address the happenings in France right now…they don’t want us Amerikkkans to get any ideas.

And I’m with you Sistah. FUCK Charlie Fuckin’ Kirk, I’m all about Palestine. But of course ALL Charlie ALL the time means they can ignore a goddamn genocide.

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Mikhael's avatar

You have to remember, our president is as weird as it gets.

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Dolge Orlick's avatar

I find it weird that you have less than nothing to say yet you say it.

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Lisa Savage's avatar

Lowering the U.S. flag for a political commentator was already blowing my boomer mind (but did read that flags are still always lowered on 9/11, so 47 was making use of that fact to virtue signal to Kirk's big youth following). Seeing the corporate flag also at half mast at the U.S.'s most famous torture prison on land stolen from Cuba makes me feel like this is political satire. What corporation better embodies U.S. culture than fast food that causes myriad harms to your health? And incidentally, illnesses for which you can expect to receive inadequate care if any if you are poor enough to have to rely on a fast food diet in the food desert where you live.

An artist friend of mine has for years been using the clown Ronald McDonald to represent U.S. government. His assemblage piece "Send in the Clowns" features a circus bigtop with a line of performing clowns in front distracting from bomb factory scenes and the Statue of Liberty garlanded with money behind the clowns. But these days it's hard to do satire.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Trump is just a clear reflection of what the western "civilization" really is - a genocidal cancer of humanity.

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gypsy33's avatar

Oh Lisa how very true.

Caitlin had me at “MacDonald’s flag”.

Really, what better embodies us Amerikkkans? Fat, lazy, unhealthy. I love to point out to folks the fact that Mickey D’s is the world’s largest purchaser of cow eyeballs…y’all who still actually eat that shit can put it in your Big Mac and scarf it.

Better yet, feed it for free to the IGF!

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Silvana Briand's avatar

That would be because satire is "doing us".

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Niemoller's Ghost's avatar

In popular news, our brave and free US of Ancapistan today mourns the loss of much loved genocide apologist Mike Megamouth. in religious news, we sacrifice these 666 glorious, god-fearing Big Macs to the regime-approved gods of Mammon and FuKyu with all our arts. In Foreign Affairs news, its all quiet on Eastern front, with an easy roundup of another 1000 native terrorists caught red-handed breathing on land we told them yesterday we were claiming, so they're off to Concentration Camp 1488, where they'll enjoy the Zionismus uber Alles, and Arbeit Macht Frei prison programs. Now I proudly proclaim the (contractually required) 'long live our wise and glorious Emperor Narcissus!' In financial news, here's no chance of other nations kicking us out of their political and trade organizations, since we're MAGNIFICENT, and they all wanna be like us, everybody tells us so. This has been another Zarathustra News update, I Ronnie signing out.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Perhaps the darkness of our times will provoke the evolution of a reflective choroid layer behind our retinas, like cats. Or better yet, the development of deeply reflective consciousness —that there’s no bloody cloud being waiting to welcome Fascist a-holes into paradise, only bacteria, fungi and worms prepared to recycle and thankfully thereby purify their molecular components back into the Biosphere from whence they came. Emphasizing the unity of all there is , and therefore, the lunacy of Chosen People Syndrome.

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gypsy33's avatar

Dearest Vin

As a cat in a woman’s body, I’m attempting to overcome my far inferior human side and achieve those feline skills 😉

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Given the havoc pouring out into the cosmos at the hands of humanity, a little skepticism about one’s human aspects is not at all an unhealthy thing, gyp dear.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Very well said.

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Jeck's avatar

Charlie Kirk had become outspokenly critical of Israel, Israeli influence in the US, and of the genocide in Gaza.

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Caitlin Johnstone's avatar

This is absolute nonsense. He'd begun making some tepid criticisms of Israel in response to the turning tide of public sentiment among young Republicans, but he was backing the genocide until the very end. Stop trying to beatify this genocidal scumbag.

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1949908699411288130

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gypsy33's avatar

Caitlin, THIS! 👍👍👍

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Bullshit - let the white-washing begin (yes, I've read the GrayZone 'anonymous source' piece about 'a friend' of Charlie Kirk suggesting 'alternate theories' about 'charlie kirk'). Let the distractions, apologia, misdirections, rumors, etc. begin...

Charlie Kirk on Palestine: "I don't think the place exists". ( https://x.com/AntiSin3/status/1966212256288456788)

Kirk proudly espoused that he was an Evangelical Christian Zionist and generally backed Israel's onslaught.

“I have a bulletproof resume showing my defence of Israel,” he said. “I believe in the scriptural land rights given to Israel. I believe in fulfilment of prophecy. My life was changed in Israel,” he said, adding that he would “fight for” Israel.

Kirk regularly reiterated Israeli talking points about Gaza, blaming Hamas for Israeli atrocities against Palestinians.

(https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/what-charlie-kirk-said-about-iran-israel-islam-and-jeffrey-epstein)

- On July 28, 2025 Kirk posted a video on X saying "No, Israel is not starving Gazans," (https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1949908699411288130)

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musicbob's avatar

Thank you for posting this. It (apparently) needed to be.

And this one too... these aren't just little "forgivable" slips of the tongue...

https://zeteo.com/p/charlie-kirk-in-his-own-words?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2325511&post_id=173452031&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=17e0g&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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Jo Waller's avatar

In other words he's an establishment tool being used to make out that it's Israel's and not the US's genocide. The tide has turned and everyone is repositioning themselves- blaming the proxy Israel's influence is a good way to do it without actually addressing the cause of the genocide- his own country.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I keep hearing alt media commentators say this, but I have seen no evidence of such.

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Lynn's avatar

I guess the people who talked against Charlie Kirk don't even know this information.

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musicbob's avatar

""White House lackey Stephen Miller is saying that Charlie Kirk’s assassination means “radical left organizations” need to be targeted and dismantled in the United States, because it’s what Charlie would have wanted.""

That's because the "radical left" (which, of course, as all the readers here know, has absolutely nothing at all to do with radicalism) is the ONLY voice that confronts the power structure, the system itself... a system which no longer has anything at all to do with "democracy", and most likely never really did to begin with.

A "for-profit-only" system ultimately ends up being the opposite of democracy... probably because the system itself preys on one of the human character traits that we all have... greed (and all the behavior associated with, stemming from, it)... while marginalizing the beneficial-to-humanity traits that we also all have, sharing/caring/thoughtfulness/respect/consideration.

It was all so very obvious a very long time ago, like with the patriot act, total information awareness, constant surveillance, etc (and even before these), that it was all meant to keep firm tabs on people, and groups of people, who might present as any type of obstacle to the "for-profit-over-people-only" system... the system never gave one fuck about far-right extremism (all just a ruse)... because far-right extremism (whatever that even is, or means)... has absolutely zero inclination to challenge the "real" system (steroidal pursuit of profit only)... zero... right, left, liberal, conservative... none of those terms have any meaning anymore (if they even did to begin with).

I know you can count on one thing though... any highly publicized event like this will ALWAYS be used by the system (the "system" meaning the power structure, and the people who own it) to crack down on any entity that wants to (or even just appear to want to) change it (even if only ever so slightly), what it's foundation is built upon... profit.

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umbra illumino's avatar

If you’re left it is the fault of the right - if you’re right it is the fault of the left both stand proud in their self righteous beliefs, never seeing their commonality — the deep hate for one another. When there is hate, neither should be proud, neither should plant their flags of self righteousness, both are manipulated in their belief systems.

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Ken Taylor's avatar

Trump is by his own twisted nature, a vengeful, nasty piece of work. He uses his new found, king-like power (abuse of power) as a cudgel against anything that he dislikes or doesn't understand. Biden was no better; just perhaps more addled.

It is beyond appalling that this is what passes for "leadership" when true, balanced leadership is what the U.S. desperately needs as the world continues along this stormy path. Trump will only make matters worse for Americans as he and his henchmen spoil for more war. He has nothing to offer but negativity, lies and instability. Deception Incorporated.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Caitlin, what bothers me most about this 'Charlie Kirk' brouhaha is that (some) people seem to be more concerned about that then the GENOCIDE in Gaza that has killed several hundred thousand lives already - babies, children, women, the elderly, the innocent in a 2-year long live-streamed Genocide.

Seeing the responses/comments flying around the internet, it definitely seems like there is something VERY WRONG with the world (when people focus more on a complete racist, misogynist, genocide supporting, empathy-less POS like Charlie Kirk than all the innocent people being killed in Palestine, not to mention all the people perishing every day due to starvation, hunger, poverty,...)

As you say, we seem to be in a very dark period of human history...and I wish I could be as hopeful/optimistic as you...and maybe I need to delude myself just a bit as it may be necessary and what humanity needs more than ever from the rest of us observing this horror show unfolding right in front of our eyes...

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Fawad Ali's avatar

Because anything that takes the world’s eyes off of Gaza is a win for the Zionists. They want to keep talking about it non stop for months if possible.

It doesn’t make much difference in main stream media. Their suppression of the genocide remains. It is up to the rest of us to keep the focus on Palestine.

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A Parseeker's avatar

Agreed. If murder is murder, why are some murders more “equal” than others. And how much oxygen is going into this that’s providing Israël cover for more mass-murder? Until this noise dies, no one will be asking the most pressing and relevant questions.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Because hypocrisy, total lack of morality, greed, and arrogance is the essence of western culture - a cancer of humanity.

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musicbob's avatar

hmmm... yes... sure seems to serve as (yet another, in a very long line of) very convenient distraction... from the absolute fact that the United States (using Israel as its excited proxy) is currently committing a genocide in Gaza (and expanding territory) and the ultimate cause of a million to two million dead in Ukraine.

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Charlie Durney's avatar

He wasn’t a swamp creature, he was a human being. This label seems to facilitate the continued devaluation of a human life. He just had a belief system that some of us disagree with.

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Ron Stockton's avatar

He preached, promoted, and enabled hate. His was not “free speech”, it was hate speech. People suffered because of things he and his ilk said.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Hate speech, as is all other form of speech, whether we like that speech or not, is covered by the first amendment. incitement of imminent violence is deemed to be outside the purview of that right. I support that right.

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gypsy33's avatar

Agree, Ron. Just one more less piece of racist, misogynist POS left to deal with.

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gypsy33's avatar

So, Charlie. Are you implying that the “belief system” of the Ziofilth is somehow legitimate as well?

All this sympathy for a genocidal racist misogynist is bullshit.

FREE LUIGI!

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Silvana Briand's avatar

That's like saying "both parties are responsible" while only Palestinians are getting slaughtered. Sometimes middle ground has to give way to unpalatable truth. He ran the biggest youth organization in the country; tell me again how someone with his own kkk capabilities just "had a different opinion"?

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Tedmr.goodwrench.'s avatar

There is no doubt that the assassination has been set up as a distraction while the murder of many thousands continues. Deception has always been standard operating procedures for the zionists. Thank you for your efforts to inform people

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Lynda Craig's avatar

I can’t believe they have a McDonald’s in Cuba. Not to mention Guantanamo Bay. Is there anywhere in the world that has withstood the beast.

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Levi Tate's avatar

Netanyahu is laughing now.

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"Charlie Kirk Dares to Question October 7th attack on Israel"

Apparently from 2 months ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsXt8RodpGc

I wrote down what Kirk said in this video in case this video

"disappears".

Charlie Kirk:

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"...We don't talk about Israeli politics very often and most Americans

don't know this. The last nine months Israel was on the brink of

civil war. It is not an exaggeration, this judicial stuff, there

were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets

because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli

constitution, that's not an exaggeration right?

There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu

where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets.

That's all gone.

Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.

I think some questions need to be asked.

Was there a stand down order?

'Six hours', I don't believe it.

Israel's the size of New Jersey.

When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border

it's 45 minutes.

'Six hours', they're live streaming the killing of Jews.

Did somebody in the government say stand down?

That is a legitimate non conspiracy question."

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Netanyahu, for one, is glad Kirk is gone.

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Mark's avatar

Zionism IS darkness.

That's why Zionists can't see decently.

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Moira Brown's avatar

Your closing comments: Your words to the ears of the Goddess, please.

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