"Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it." THE GRAYZONE
Why is Charlie Kirk more important than the 23 other Americans who were killed in the same 24 hours from gun violence? 30 journalists were murdered in Yemen. 30 people who were trying to inform the world about what is happening in the Middle East. Charlie Kirk, a racist, homophobic, misogynistic zionist gets all the attention from the mainstream press. It is a symptom of the sickness of our world.
'I will never let your legacy die' - Charlie Kirk's widow gives tearful address after shooting
13th August 2024
Nardine Saad and Max Matza
Not a single mention of this man being a neo nazi who promoted all kinds of sick race paranoia conspiracy stories, and had been promoting a genocidal zionist regime.
This is propaganda event orchestrated by the empire. The sich f--- probably had him killed themselves.
Please produce evidence of his "racism" and homophobia. You are way off base. All the name calling and so little true awareness and respect for the truth and nuances. All the leftist self-righteousness is not helpful, to put it mildly.
Kirk saw empathy as a weakness and joked about the attack on Paul Pelosi. He frequently denied there was starvation in Gaza and excused Israel's genocidal practices. He was a forced birther who said he would make his ten-year-old daughter carry a baby to term if she were raped. He was a horrendous racist who argued that black women were too stupid to be taken seriously. He called George Floyd a "scumbag" and said black people were better off in slavery. At one event, he kept referring to an Asian woman as "chink". He blamed transgender people for gun violence and called for the stoning of gay people. I could go on and on, but needless to say, Kirk was a person who stoked division and incited violence.
I keep reading that Charlie Kirk, as of late, has been critical of Israel, after supporting their slaughter the first year, and after having received the most significant part of his $40 million budget from Jewish organizations. Anyone with a minimum sense of justice would have realized four weeks after Oct. 7 that what Israel was working towards was a genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. A year after a majority of the young people he was influencing were moving in the opposite direction from him on Israel, he discovered that what Israel was doing was actually wrong. This looks more like opportunism to me than evidence of a slow thinker who required a year to see the obvious.
I keep hearing that Kirk may have changed his tune concerning Israel, but i have seen no clear evidence of such.What evidence has been provided does not support the assertion.
"As of September 13, 2025, Charlie Kirk had not publicly criticized Israel. He remained a staunch supporter of the country up until his death. In his final hours, Kirk discussed his pro-Israel stance with Rabbi Pesach Wolicki, expressing concern over the trend among Gen Z conservatives turning against Israel but reaffirming his firm support for the nation
New York Post
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Kirk's unwavering support for Israel was evident throughout his career. He frequently emphasized his pro-Israel stance, asserting that he had "no non-Jewish person my age has a longer or clearer record of support for Israel"
So I guess you have some good words to describe Kirk and his homophobic, racist, misogynist, zionist, antisemitic words. It is sad that 2 children lost their father. It is not sad that we will no longer be subject to reading about what this person says about the people in the world that he saw as less than himself. But don't worry, you will find some other scumbags to admire. They are not scarce in this world today.
As is his mentor Trump, Kirk was a right wing demagogue.
His liquidation is already being used by the forces of reaction to shift the political milieu further to the Right and reinforce thought crime and the police state panopticon as Trump deploys the Guard to US cities in a further breach of constitutional norms.
Ben Shapiro -- another deranged Ziofascist who actually does look like Satan with painted eyebrows and is on the Zionist payroll -- is already declaring his inheritance of the Kirk Mantle.
France really needs to read some of Charlie's most famous quotes. (But France is probably a white racist and agrees with most of it, so they'll think it's "hateful" that anyone compiled the quotes.)
If CK was criticising Israel's influence it only helps to bolster the lie that the tail is wagging the dog and deflect from the dog's owner - the Us based interests in fossil fuels, arms, tech, finance and media etc
In other words he was working for the establishment narrative and not against it.
We're being led to think that Israel wanted to shut him up. Also part of the narrative that this is Israel's and not America's genocide. The US could stop it tomorrow.
Duh! He's always known this - that Israel has been ethnically cleansing Palestinians (including Gazans) - just as most people that know anything about Palestine have known. It's never been a secret.
It is exceptional hubris to think that 'Charlie Kirk' is "so important" to Israel that without CK's support of Israel, Israel would crumble and their propaganda would be ousted. That the 'big secret' about the ethnic cleansing of Gaza would come out in the open.
And yet, he could not even admit that it is WAY BEYOND ethnic cleansing - it is a Genoocide. And just a little over a month ago, he said ->- On July 28, 2025 Kirk posted a video on X saying "No, Israel is not starving Gazans," (https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1949908699411288130).
He was a shitty human (on par with Israeli Zionists) through-and-through. There is NO redemption for people like him. Not in this life, and not the next. The same applies to EVERYONE that has a hand in supporting this Genocide.
I just read the article and has turned my thinking around that he was beginning to question his views on Israel and was assassinated in a time when Israel is on an assassination spree. Now I wonder.....and I see the new leader, Shapiro, as the beneficiary of the Kirk murder, having publicly, without naming him but citing the leader "of the church" turned on him and now replacing him in the traditionally
I was posting the link for people who wanted to read the Grayzone article for themselves. I think it is perhaps significant that Kirk was shot when his views on Israel were changing and after he refused Zionist money.
We're meant to think that this proves Israel wanted to shut CK up because he was pointing out Israel's non-existence influence in Washington - the US controls the deformed attack dog known as Israel, not the other way around. Either this was a random attack or we're being led to think that Israel is protecting it's fictional control to deflect from those who are actually in control- ie the US based interests in fossil fuel, arms, pharma, animal ag, finance, AI, drugs and media etc.
Am I the only one who tends to think that there is a lot to be said for "De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est"?
I had heard of the guy before he was killed, but knew little about him, and I find it a little strange that so many people are rushing to point out all his faults and failings.
However, I also find it weird the way that so many people have rushed to speak about him as if he was some person who was worthy of great honour - and lowering flags to half mast for him is about as weird as it gets.
I have mostly avoided all this specious talk with regard to Charlie Kirk. I think I am correct in doing so because it's Palestine right now that I focus on and of course France as we go forward with our revolution
Unless it's yet another smokescreen to distract people away from the master plan. Poor happiness guy was ideal for the purpose and took one for the team.
Here’s hoping that the French people can sustain that revolutionary energy, Jenny. Here in USA, la terra dei cretini, the bubble brains believe that holding candle-light vigils for celebrity charlatans is somehow more important than the other issues of the day.
The US never really had a revolution as did the French. This is emphasized at the beginning of Chapter 4 of Zinn’s history, where he writes about the cleverness of the founding fathers who “created the most effective system of national control devised in modern times . . . combining paternalism with command”. American revolution was a paternalistic shift of authoritarian control from British elites to colonial elites. Revolution, my ass. Americans simply cannot comprehend its genuine meaning.
Yes, of course, but that glosses over its sinister nature, which Zinn doesn’t permit us to do. They were very slick in that they pulled off a status quo with just a shift of the propertied class to different individuals, while convincing the mass of proles that real revolutionary forces were at work with the help of all that fancy rhetoric that De Tocqueville loved.
...........and in England at the time of the French Revolution. Spies galore and propaganda reigned supreme in the Great British Isles. Terrified of the people copying the French.
In every country in the World right now their are British meddling in Sovereign Countries. They are not overt like the Americans.
British airbases in: Cyprus. Quatar etc. Why are they there?
The MSM here refuses to address the happenings in France right now…they don’t want us Amerikkkans to get any ideas.
And I’m with you Sistah. FUCK Charlie Fuckin’ Kirk, I’m all about Palestine. But of course ALL Charlie ALL the time means they can ignore a goddamn genocide.
Lowering the U.S. flag for a political commentator was already blowing my boomer mind (but did read that flags are still always lowered on 9/11, so 47 was making use of that fact to virtue signal to Kirk's big youth following). Seeing the corporate flag also at half mast at the U.S.'s most famous torture prison on land stolen from Cuba makes me feel like this is political satire. What corporation better embodies U.S. culture than fast food that causes myriad harms to your health? And incidentally, illnesses for which you can expect to receive inadequate care if any if you are poor enough to have to rely on a fast food diet in the food desert where you live.
An artist friend of mine has for years been using the clown Ronald McDonald to represent U.S. government. His assemblage piece "Send in the Clowns" features a circus bigtop with a line of performing clowns in front distracting from bomb factory scenes and the Statue of Liberty garlanded with money behind the clowns. But these days it's hard to do satire.
Perhaps civilization, which replaced 300,000 years of egalitarian, sharing, non-violent co-existence of humanity itself, with its inventions of property and thus haves and have nots, hierarchy, inequality, slavery, top-down rule, religion, and war is itself a genocidal culture. Chinese civilization produced Mao; Western civilization produced Hitler; Islamic civilization has produced the Taliban and ISIS.....all share in common the inventions that have led to massive slaughter. Singling out one civilization when all have produced monsters misleads us from asking whether our concept of civilization itself is the cancer.
dale ruff you prove again and again that you are zionist propagandist and genocide apologist. Your maniupulations are so transparent. You are dishonest but pretending to be some humanitarian. You are comparing Taliban with Hitler? Amazing! Taliban operated in their own country and did not occupy any other country plus was expelling foreign invaders - guess who. Mao did not attack or occupy any foreign country. You conveniently miss to mention the biggest war criminals in the human history starting with the biggest one - master genocider jewish dark lord Netenyahoo and the entire illegal jewish entity called israel. You also conveniently miss more recent US war criminals starting with Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump (all staunchly pro-israel and anti-Muslim). USA, UK, Germany, France, Belgium, ... are all "western Judeo-Christian civilization" and well-known imperial powers, colonizers, and genociders. No one comes close to the evil, misery, theft, and destruction that judeo-Nazi Western "civilization" brought to the world over the past 300+ years. You are comparing ISIS with Bush? USA killed millions of innocent defenseless civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. ISIS was a CIA creation and was used to attack Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. Strangely ISIS worked for the US and israel interests and against the interests of "Islamic" countries. Did Iraq occupy USA or did USA/West occupy Iraq based on lies and hatred of Muslims and Islam? You are such a fake person and totally transparent closet-zionist and genocide apologist. Anyone who worships POS Joe Biden aka Genocide Joe is a bad person in my book.
Really, what better embodies us Amerikkkans? Fat, lazy, unhealthy. I love to point out to folks the fact that Mickey D’s is the world’s largest purchaser of cow eyeballs…y’all who still actually eat that shit can put it in your Big Mac and scarf it.
""White House lackey Stephen Miller is saying that Charlie Kirk’s assassination means “radical left organizations” need to be targeted and dismantled in the United States, because it’s what Charlie would have wanted.""
That's because the "radical left" (which, of course, as all the readers here know, has absolutely nothing at all to do with radicalism) is the ONLY voice that confronts the power structure, the system itself... a system which no longer has anything at all to do with "democracy", and most likely never really did to begin with.
A "for-profit-only" system ultimately ends up being the opposite of democracy... probably because the system itself preys on one of the human character traits that we all have... greed (and all the behavior associated with, stemming from, it)... while marginalizing the beneficial-to-humanity traits that we also all have, sharing/caring/thoughtfulness/respect/consideration.
It was all so very obvious a very long time ago, like with the patriot act, total information awareness, constant surveillance, etc (and even before these), that it was all meant to keep firm tabs on people, and groups of people, who might present as any type of obstacle to the "for-profit-over-people-only" system... the system never gave one fuck about far-right extremism (all just a ruse)... because far-right extremism (whatever that even is, or means)... has absolutely zero inclination to challenge the "real" system (steroidal pursuit of profit only)... zero... right, left, liberal, conservative... none of those terms have any meaning anymore (if they even did to begin with).
I know you can count on one thing though... any highly publicized event like this will ALWAYS be used by the system (the "system" meaning the power structure, and the people who own it) to crack down on any entity that wants to (or even just appear to want to) change it (even if only ever so slightly), what it's foundation is built upon... profit.
In popular news, our brave and free US of Ancapistan today mourns the loss of much loved genocide apologist Mike Megamouth. in religious news, we sacrifice these 666 glorious, god-fearing Big Macs to the regime-approved gods of Mammon and FuKyu with all our arts. In Foreign Affairs news, its all quiet on Eastern front, with an easy roundup of another 1000 native terrorists caught red-handed breathing on land we told them yesterday we were claiming, so they're off to Concentration Camp 1488, where they'll enjoy the Zionismus uber Alles, and Arbeit Macht Frei prison programs. Now I proudly proclaim the (contractually required) 'long live our wise and glorious Emperor Narcissus!' In financial news, here's no chance of other nations kicking us out of their political and trade organizations, since we're MAGNIFICENT, and they all wanna be like us, everybody tells us so. This has been another Zarathustra News update, I Ronnie signing out.
Trump is by his own twisted nature, a vengeful, nasty piece of work. He uses his new found, king-like power (abuse of power) as a cudgel against anything that he dislikes or doesn't understand. Biden was no better; just perhaps more addled.
It is beyond appalling that this is what passes for "leadership" when true, balanced leadership is what the U.S. desperately needs as the world continues along this stormy path. Trump will only make matters worse for Americans as he and his henchmen spoil for more war. He has nothing to offer but negativity, lies and instability. Deception Incorporated.
Perhaps the darkness of our times will provoke the evolution of a reflective choroid layer behind our retinas, like cats. Or better yet, the development of deeply reflective consciousness —that there’s no bloody cloud being waiting to welcome Fascist a-holes into paradise, only bacteria, fungi and worms prepared to recycle and thankfully thereby purify their molecular components back into the Biosphere from whence they came. Emphasizing the unity of all there is , and therefore, the lunacy of Chosen People Syndrome.
Given the havoc pouring out into the cosmos at the hands of humanity, a little skepticism about one’s human aspects is not at all an unhealthy thing, gyp dear.
This is absolute nonsense. He'd begun making some tepid criticisms of Israel in response to the turning tide of public sentiment among young Republicans, but he was backing the genocide until the very end. Stop trying to beatify this genocidal scumbag.
He defended genocide to the end. He found the murders of children, tens of thousands in Gaza, thousands in the US, acceptable. He truly evil man who was, if we can take a clue from Kash Patel, a personal friend, saying in his tribute, "I will see you in Valhalla," a Nazi, as this phrase comes from a Geman commander who started it, with the Nazis seeing Valhalla as where all the Nazis will meet after death.
Caitlin - ‘Left’ vs ‘Right’ are distractions, a shaking of the ant jar. This seems to be a professional hit, especially since no one can figure out the motive of the guy who turned himself in.
Here is the vote, showing there is NO difference between Democrats and Republcans in their efforts to support Israel:
" a majority of Senate Democrats voted in favor of Senator Bernie Sanders' resolutions to block U.S. arms sales to Israel in July 2025. However, these resolutions ultimately failed due to strong bipartisan opposition.
Vote Breakdown
Resolution to block assault rifles:with 27 Democrats supporting, 17 opposing, and 73 Republicans voting against.
Resolution to block bombs and munitions:with 24 Democrats supporting, 20 opposing, and 73 Republicans voting against. War is Peace: majority Dems for blocking arms to Israel = all Republicans against. 2 + 2 = 1.
Bullshit - let the white-washing begin (yes, I've read the GrayZone 'anonymous source' piece about 'a friend' of Charlie Kirk suggesting 'alternate theories' about 'charlie kirk'). Let the distractions, apologia, misdirections, rumors, etc. begin...
Kirk proudly espoused that he was an Evangelical Christian Zionist and generally backed Israel's onslaught.
“I have a bulletproof resume showing my defence of Israel,” he said. “I believe in the scriptural land rights given to Israel. I believe in fulfilment of prophecy. My life was changed in Israel,” he said, adding that he would “fight for” Israel.
Kirk regularly reiterated Israeli talking points about Gaza, blaming Hamas for Israeli atrocities against Palestinians.
For someone who did not found that youth movement on his own but rakes in all the money by turning youth as crazy as himself, he hopes, he sure seems to think he knows what's in God's mind; that's dangerous country to be in.
As an evangelical he would have been taught from the bible changed by zionists in early 1900 and given to their new pastors in graduating. A bible changed to support zionist Jews in their final decision to take Palestine as their homeland by lies, murder and, for fun, rape.
What he was doing was very much the same as Israelis do to their children, by brainwashing them as young as possible they don't ask awkward questions as most teenagers do, it's too drummed into them.
One way or another, he has paid the price for his hubris.
In other words he's an establishment tool being used to make out that it's Israel's and not the US's genocide. The tide has turned and everyone is repositioning themselves- blaming the proxy Israel's influence is a good way to do it without actually addressing the cause of the genocide- his own country.
There is no evidence for this claim. He was a staunch defender of genocide to the end. I just watched a recent video where he claims that the killing of tens of thousands of Gazan children is justified because they are "human shields," not noting that Hamas is protected by 100 ft deep tunnels and that killing human shields is a war crime.
Caitlin, what bothers me most about this 'Charlie Kirk' brouhaha is that (some) people seem to be more concerned about that then the GENOCIDE in Gaza that has killed several hundred thousand lives already - babies, children, women, the elderly, the innocent in a 2-year long live-streamed Genocide.
Seeing the responses/comments flying around the internet, it definitely seems like there is something VERY WRONG with the world (when people focus more on a complete racist, misogynist, genocide supporting, empathy-less POS like Charlie Kirk than all the innocent people being killed in Palestine, not to mention all the people perishing every day due to starvation, hunger, poverty,...)
As you say, we seem to be in a very dark period of human history...and I wish I could be as hopeful/optimistic as you...and maybe I need to delude myself just a bit as it may be necessary and what humanity needs more than ever from the rest of us observing this horror show unfolding right in front of our eyes...
Agreed. If murder is murder, why are some murders more “equal” than others. And how much oxygen is going into this that’s providing Israël cover for more mass-murder? Until this noise dies, no one will be asking the most pressing and relevant questions.
Because anything that takes the world’s eyes off of Gaza is a win for the Zionists. They want to keep talking about it non stop for months if possible.
It doesn’t make much difference in main stream media. Their suppression of the genocide remains. It is up to the rest of us to keep the focus on Palestine.
hmmm... yes... sure seems to serve as (yet another, in a very long line of) very convenient distraction... from the absolute fact that the United States (using Israel as its excited proxy) is currently committing a genocide in Gaza (and expanding territory) and the ultimate cause of a million to two million dead in Ukraine.
Not at all. We have enough evidence for 9/11 and JFK. The problem is that 'conspiracy theorists' will not accept ANY version of reality except their OWN (evidence be damned).
Here is the psychology of a conspiracy theorist (in a nutshell) ->
A conspiracy theory makes you feel special and different and helps to bond a group mentality around the view that we know better than everyone else. Political conspiracy theories are especially pernicious. People on the left and the right are prone to them. They usually arise from feelings of powerlessness, of feeling betrayed by the political and intellectual elites of society. There may possibly be good reasons to feel betrayed, but the conspiracy theory only makes things worse, it is essentially a way of burying your head in the sand.
Yes, there are true and real conspiracy theories - especially widely known ones that are out in the open that no one seems to want to pay much attention to - like the conspiracy of Capitalism (and everything that it entails - including those in power doing what they can to maintain the unjust status quo), but the real ones are few and far between (and takes critical thinking and analytical analysis - and not patternicity or apophenia).
I repeat: Like 9/11 and JFK, the evidence is in the implausibility of the official narrative being pushed and the obvious holes and flaws in the investigation. If you cannot understand this statement there is nothing more I can say.
If you’re left it is the fault of the right - if you’re right it is the fault of the left both stand proud in their self righteous beliefs, never seeing their commonality — the deep hate for one another. When there is hate, neither should be proud, neither should plant their flags of self righteousness, both are manipulated in their belief systems.
I agree, there is a ‘LIBERAL’ class, I will define as a ‘RULING CLASS’, I think that the ruling class underpins both political parties-equally. I don’t believe that the people that claim to be under one or the other parties flag can be considered monolithic or all is right or all is wrong. I do believe that there are many if not most that are caught in a political believe system much like a religion and blindly follows their narrative. It is the narrative that drives the members of each party to hate one another. It is the love of party that drives an individual to hate members of the opposing party.
This division of hate is created by the ruling class that underpins both parties and is used, as one of many, control mechanisms. When all is said and done it is the hate that is within the individual that is the problem.
An individuals actions driven in hate is never a good thing no matter which flag one carries. Only when we are once again able to look at our neighbors as individuals that have more in common with ourselves will we be able to find compassion for the victims of atrocities. Only when we see the manipulation of the ruling class will we be able to see that it is not the flag one carries rather the problem falls on the ones that manipulate and made the flag. It is time to burn our flags.
There's one slight hiccup with your comment. The U.S. has a 'LIBERAL' class (which is different from LEFT). Both liberals and conservatives are on the right (though liberals are more towards the center - especially on social issues - at least to a certain extent).
Maybe that is part of the problem - that there is 'no left' in the U.S. The LEFT are the ones that usually fight for working-class people. Currently, we don't have any party (of significance) that represents the interests of the working class.
Thank you, Caitlin for the brilliant writing on this, as on so many other events in this dystopia we are living through. Lowering a flag to half staff for a man who thought there should be public executions on television and that children should be made to watch them is just one reason this piece of filth deserves what he got. And to all the righties weeping and rending their designer clothing who harp on about Kirk being a father, I say what about the thousands of fathers slaughtered in Gaza? And the thousands of children and their mothers and their aunties and grandmas? Not a peep about them.
Thank you Carolyn Zaremba, you are voicing exactly what I am thinking. I am amazed at the vitriol directed at Caitlin. Much more amazed at the defence of a lowest of the low piece of a human who by all accounts revelled in inciting violence and hatred.
You are the single best voice in the entire world on Palestine, Israel, U.S. and others genocede funding complicity. Not kidding. Please keep it up. Stay focused.🙏
(".....The last message that Charlie Kirk gave to me before he joined his creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence. That was the last message that he sent me before that assassin stole him from all of us. And we are gonna do that under President Trump’s leadership,” Miller told Fox News.....")
This does not say much about Stephen Miller. What is says is americans are clueless enough to be jerked around about by clearly hollow words uttered by a godless zionist.
This is puppeteering on a ridiculously obvious level.
And when the zionists have used the right to savage the left to peices, well it will turn on them next. Ask the Qataris who the zionists used to savage Syria, before dispensing with them and bombing Qatart too.
There is no doubt that the assassination has been set up as a distraction while the murder of many thousands continues. Deception has always been standard operating procedures for the zionists. Thank you for your efforts to inform people
Enough of a distraction from one the thousand West Bank Palestinians being abducted so that Illegal settlers can build more houses on Palestinian land, just as Satanyahu has decreed more settlements on West Bank Palestinian land. How many Palestinians have been abducted for the spread of illegal israhell?
"Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it." THE GRAYZONE
Why is Charlie Kirk more important than the 23 other Americans who were killed in the same 24 hours from gun violence? 30 journalists were murdered in Yemen. 30 people who were trying to inform the world about what is happening in the Middle East. Charlie Kirk, a racist, homophobic, misogynistic zionist gets all the attention from the mainstream press. It is a symptom of the sickness of our world.
Yes. It is vomit.
It is fairly obvious that the empire intends to use this "9/11" event to promote total fascism.
Read this ridiculous showcase article in the BBC for example:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9je8lxge4o
'I will never let your legacy die' - Charlie Kirk's widow gives tearful address after shooting
13th August 2024
Nardine Saad and Max Matza
Not a single mention of this man being a neo nazi who promoted all kinds of sick race paranoia conspiracy stories, and had been promoting a genocidal zionist regime.
This is propaganda event orchestrated by the empire. The sich f--- probably had him killed themselves.
His death makes great Propaganda tool for the powers that shouldn't be.
Please produce evidence of his "racism" and homophobia. You are way off base. All the name calling and so little true awareness and respect for the truth and nuances. All the leftist self-righteousness is not helpful, to put it mildly.
Ricky from Council Estate Media says it well:
Kirk saw empathy as a weakness and joked about the attack on Paul Pelosi. He frequently denied there was starvation in Gaza and excused Israel's genocidal practices. He was a forced birther who said he would make his ten-year-old daughter carry a baby to term if she were raped. He was a horrendous racist who argued that black women were too stupid to be taken seriously. He called George Floyd a "scumbag" and said black people were better off in slavery. At one event, he kept referring to an Asian woman as "chink". He blamed transgender people for gun violence and called for the stoning of gay people. I could go on and on, but needless to say, Kirk was a person who stoked division and incited violence.
https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/make-no-mistake-the-charlie-kirk/comments
I keep reading that Charlie Kirk, as of late, has been critical of Israel, after supporting their slaughter the first year, and after having received the most significant part of his $40 million budget from Jewish organizations. Anyone with a minimum sense of justice would have realized four weeks after Oct. 7 that what Israel was working towards was a genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. A year after a majority of the young people he was influencing were moving in the opposite direction from him on Israel, he discovered that what Israel was doing was actually wrong. This looks more like opportunism to me than evidence of a slow thinker who required a year to see the obvious.
I keep hearing that Kirk may have changed his tune concerning Israel, but i have seen no clear evidence of such.What evidence has been provided does not support the assertion.
Very well said Reno de Caro.
"As of September 13, 2025, Charlie Kirk had not publicly criticized Israel. He remained a staunch supporter of the country up until his death. In his final hours, Kirk discussed his pro-Israel stance with Rabbi Pesach Wolicki, expressing concern over the trend among Gen Z conservatives turning against Israel but reaffirming his firm support for the nation
New York Post
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Kirk's unwavering support for Israel was evident throughout his career. He frequently emphasized his pro-Israel stance, asserting that he had "no non-Jewish person my age has a longer or clearer record of support for Israel"
Wikipedia
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Thank You for reporting this information. I guess Caitlin missed it. Because, she sure had some vulgar words to describe Charlie Kirk.
So I guess you have some good words to describe Kirk and his homophobic, racist, misogynist, zionist, antisemitic words. It is sad that 2 children lost their father. It is not sad that we will no longer be subject to reading about what this person says about the people in the world that he saw as less than himself. But don't worry, you will find some other scumbags to admire. They are not scarce in this world today.
As is his mentor Trump, Kirk was a right wing demagogue.
His liquidation is already being used by the forces of reaction to shift the political milieu further to the Right and reinforce thought crime and the police state panopticon as Trump deploys the Guard to US cities in a further breach of constitutional norms.
Ben Shapiro -- another deranged Ziofascist who actually does look like Satan with painted eyebrows and is on the Zionist payroll -- is already declaring his inheritance of the Kirk Mantle.
"Ben Shapiro -- another deranged Ziofascist who actually does look like Satan with painted eyebrows"
That is best description of Shapiro I have ever read.
.......in America today. We in the Asian World are bemused!
Exactly Jenny. Charlie who? Oh... another rightwing, white supremacist demagogue....
You don't know what you're talking about, so full of hate and self-righteousness.
https://zeteo.com/p/charlie-kirk-in-his-own-words?r=286nrw
France really needs to read some of Charlie's most famous quotes. (But France is probably a white racist and agrees with most of it, so they'll think it's "hateful" that anyone compiled the quotes.)
If CK was criticising Israel's influence it only helps to bolster the lie that the tail is wagging the dog and deflect from the dog's owner - the Us based interests in fossil fuels, arms, tech, finance and media etc
In other words he was working for the establishment narrative and not against it.
We're being led to think that Israel wanted to shut him up. Also part of the narrative that this is Israel's and not America's genocide. The US could stop it tomorrow.
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/they-lowered-the-mcdonalds-flag-half/comment/155517629
Thanks for that. Since I knew nothing about this mouthpiece I had no way of knowing, though I usually take Blumenthal seriously ...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOhQQOCiKNr/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Duh! He's always known this - that Israel has been ethnically cleansing Palestinians (including Gazans) - just as most people that know anything about Palestine have known. It's never been a secret.
It is exceptional hubris to think that 'Charlie Kirk' is "so important" to Israel that without CK's support of Israel, Israel would crumble and their propaganda would be ousted. That the 'big secret' about the ethnic cleansing of Gaza would come out in the open.
And yet, he could not even admit that it is WAY BEYOND ethnic cleansing - it is a Genoocide. And just a little over a month ago, he said ->- On July 28, 2025 Kirk posted a video on X saying "No, Israel is not starving Gazans," (https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1949908699411288130).
He was a shitty human (on par with Israeli Zionists) through-and-through. There is NO redemption for people like him. Not in this life, and not the next. The same applies to EVERYONE that has a hand in supporting this Genocide.
And that is exactly why they got him:
https://x.com/5149jamesli/status/1966309993936019941?s=12&t=y6oNMuRlA05SmDXZA1sw4Q
Nope. That's what 'some people' want others to think. This is normal 'conspiracy theory' territory - not surprised.
I also predict that 'conspiracy theorists' will reject ANY and ALL evidence to the contrary (official or otherwise).
Note that there is still NO evidence of this - just 'theories' - which is par for the course in cases of 'high-profile' events.
I was also going to post this yesterday. I would really love to hear Caitlin's thoughts on this one too.
Here's the link: https://open.substack.com/pub/thegrayzone/p/charlie-kirk-refused-netanyahu-funding?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1zlqu
I just read the article and has turned my thinking around that he was beginning to question his views on Israel and was assassinated in a time when Israel is on an assassination spree. Now I wonder.....and I see the new leader, Shapiro, as the beneficiary of the Kirk murder, having publicly, without naming him but citing the leader "of the church" turned on him and now replacing him in the traditionally
Zionist funded youth movement Kirk had led.
That's what I was thinking. Anyone willing to turn down Zionist funds is worth talking to, in my opinion. As is anyone who Ben Shapiro doesn't like. 🙂
Scuba Cat, are you posting this because you think it is true or because you want us to see what a deluded lunatic Kirk was and that Rabbi is?
I was posting the link for people who wanted to read the Grayzone article for themselves. I think it is perhaps significant that Kirk was shot when his views on Israel were changing and after he refused Zionist money.
He's also been on Ukraine's 'death list' for some time, and IIRC Zelinsky threatened him personally.
Wow. The more I learn, the more I think the world is worse because of Kirk's murder.
We're meant to think that this proves Israel wanted to shut CK up because he was pointing out Israel's non-existence influence in Washington - the US controls the deformed attack dog known as Israel, not the other way around. Either this was a random attack or we're being led to think that Israel is protecting it's fictional control to deflect from those who are actually in control- ie the US based interests in fossil fuel, arms, pharma, animal ag, finance, AI, drugs and media etc.
Am I the only one who tends to think that there is a lot to be said for "De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est"?
I had heard of the guy before he was killed, but knew little about him, and I find it a little strange that so many people are rushing to point out all his faults and failings.
However, I also find it weird the way that so many people have rushed to speak about him as if he was some person who was worthy of great honour - and lowering flags to half mast for him is about as weird as it gets.
I have mostly avoided all this specious talk with regard to Charlie Kirk. I think I am correct in doing so because it's Palestine right now that I focus on and of course France as we go forward with our revolution
Exactly. With what is going on in Gaza and the West Bank (not to mention Yemen, Lebanon, etc), I find it difficult to take much interest in Kirk.
Unless it's yet another smokescreen to distract people away from the master plan. Poor happiness guy was ideal for the purpose and took one for the team.
*hapless, not happiness. Damn spell checker*
Here’s hoping that the French people can sustain that revolutionary energy, Jenny. Here in USA, la terra dei cretini, the bubble brains believe that holding candle-light vigils for celebrity charlatans is somehow more important than the other issues of the day.
Viva la rivoluzione
Hi Vin.
There is so much anger everywhere and it was fascinating how the organisers started the call out months ago. Next week all the Trade Unions..
Americans are so 'afeard' of everything.
The US never really had a revolution as did the French. This is emphasized at the beginning of Chapter 4 of Zinn’s history, where he writes about the cleverness of the founding fathers who “created the most effective system of national control devised in modern times . . . combining paternalism with command”. American revolution was a paternalistic shift of authoritarian control from British elites to colonial elites. Revolution, my ass. Americans simply cannot comprehend its genuine meaning.
As has been pointed out before, the American founding fathers were, for the most part, rich white men who did not want to pay taxes.
Yes, of course, but that glosses over its sinister nature, which Zinn doesn’t permit us to do. They were very slick in that they pulled off a status quo with just a shift of the propertied class to different individuals, while convincing the mass of proles that real revolutionary forces were at work with the help of all that fancy rhetoric that De Tocqueville loved.
Mostly they were British!
...........and in England at the time of the French Revolution. Spies galore and propaganda reigned supreme in the Great British Isles. Terrified of the people copying the French.
In every country in the World right now their are British meddling in Sovereign Countries. They are not overt like the Americans.
British airbases in: Cyprus. Quatar etc. Why are they there?
Agree with you.
la terra dei cretini - wonderfully summarized what the USA really is. Grazie.
Hi Jenny
The MSM here refuses to address the happenings in France right now…they don’t want us Amerikkkans to get any ideas.
And I’m with you Sistah. FUCK Charlie Fuckin’ Kirk, I’m all about Palestine. But of course ALL Charlie ALL the time means they can ignore a goddamn genocide.
The weight of our years on this planet: both of us growing older at the same time.
The British worked their arses off to keep the French Revolution under wraps and they did succeed.
However they did not have the internet at the time
Next week in France: It is the time of the Unions which are strong in France.
No-one is going anywhere.
We have American friends coming here next week!
Jenny, I wish I was one of ‘em!
You’ve no idea how much I’d love to take part 😁
You have to remember, our president is as weird as it gets.
I'd like to think so, but just when you think that he can't get any weirder, somehow he manages to.
I find it weird that you have less than nothing to say yet you say it.
Lowering the U.S. flag for a political commentator was already blowing my boomer mind (but did read that flags are still always lowered on 9/11, so 47 was making use of that fact to virtue signal to Kirk's big youth following). Seeing the corporate flag also at half mast at the U.S.'s most famous torture prison on land stolen from Cuba makes me feel like this is political satire. What corporation better embodies U.S. culture than fast food that causes myriad harms to your health? And incidentally, illnesses for which you can expect to receive inadequate care if any if you are poor enough to have to rely on a fast food diet in the food desert where you live.
An artist friend of mine has for years been using the clown Ronald McDonald to represent U.S. government. His assemblage piece "Send in the Clowns" features a circus bigtop with a line of performing clowns in front distracting from bomb factory scenes and the Statue of Liberty garlanded with money behind the clowns. But these days it's hard to do satire.
Trump is just a clear reflection of what the western "civilization" really is - a genocidal cancer of humanity.
Perhaps civilization, which replaced 300,000 years of egalitarian, sharing, non-violent co-existence of humanity itself, with its inventions of property and thus haves and have nots, hierarchy, inequality, slavery, top-down rule, religion, and war is itself a genocidal culture. Chinese civilization produced Mao; Western civilization produced Hitler; Islamic civilization has produced the Taliban and ISIS.....all share in common the inventions that have led to massive slaughter. Singling out one civilization when all have produced monsters misleads us from asking whether our concept of civilization itself is the cancer.
dale ruff you prove again and again that you are zionist propagandist and genocide apologist. Your maniupulations are so transparent. You are dishonest but pretending to be some humanitarian. You are comparing Taliban with Hitler? Amazing! Taliban operated in their own country and did not occupy any other country plus was expelling foreign invaders - guess who. Mao did not attack or occupy any foreign country. You conveniently miss to mention the biggest war criminals in the human history starting with the biggest one - master genocider jewish dark lord Netenyahoo and the entire illegal jewish entity called israel. You also conveniently miss more recent US war criminals starting with Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump (all staunchly pro-israel and anti-Muslim). USA, UK, Germany, France, Belgium, ... are all "western Judeo-Christian civilization" and well-known imperial powers, colonizers, and genociders. No one comes close to the evil, misery, theft, and destruction that judeo-Nazi Western "civilization" brought to the world over the past 300+ years. You are comparing ISIS with Bush? USA killed millions of innocent defenseless civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. ISIS was a CIA creation and was used to attack Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. Strangely ISIS worked for the US and israel interests and against the interests of "Islamic" countries. Did Iraq occupy USA or did USA/West occupy Iraq based on lies and hatred of Muslims and Islam? You are such a fake person and totally transparent closet-zionist and genocide apologist. Anyone who worships POS Joe Biden aka Genocide Joe is a bad person in my book.
Oh Lisa how very true.
Caitlin had me at “MacDonald’s flag”.
Really, what better embodies us Amerikkkans? Fat, lazy, unhealthy. I love to point out to folks the fact that Mickey D’s is the world’s largest purchaser of cow eyeballs…y’all who still actually eat that shit can put it in your Big Mac and scarf it.
Better yet, feed it for free to the IGF!
Cow eyeballs?
That would be because satire is "doing us".
Corporations and government allied in authoritarian culture is.....fascism.
""White House lackey Stephen Miller is saying that Charlie Kirk’s assassination means “radical left organizations” need to be targeted and dismantled in the United States, because it’s what Charlie would have wanted.""
That's because the "radical left" (which, of course, as all the readers here know, has absolutely nothing at all to do with radicalism) is the ONLY voice that confronts the power structure, the system itself... a system which no longer has anything at all to do with "democracy", and most likely never really did to begin with.
A "for-profit-only" system ultimately ends up being the opposite of democracy... probably because the system itself preys on one of the human character traits that we all have... greed (and all the behavior associated with, stemming from, it)... while marginalizing the beneficial-to-humanity traits that we also all have, sharing/caring/thoughtfulness/respect/consideration.
It was all so very obvious a very long time ago, like with the patriot act, total information awareness, constant surveillance, etc (and even before these), that it was all meant to keep firm tabs on people, and groups of people, who might present as any type of obstacle to the "for-profit-over-people-only" system... the system never gave one fuck about far-right extremism (all just a ruse)... because far-right extremism (whatever that even is, or means)... has absolutely zero inclination to challenge the "real" system (steroidal pursuit of profit only)... zero... right, left, liberal, conservative... none of those terms have any meaning anymore (if they even did to begin with).
I know you can count on one thing though... any highly publicized event like this will ALWAYS be used by the system (the "system" meaning the power structure, and the people who own it) to crack down on any entity that wants to (or even just appear to want to) change it (even if only ever so slightly), what it's foundation is built upon... profit.
👏👏 Well said musicbob! Thank you!
Bibi couldn't have said it better than Miller.
In popular news, our brave and free US of Ancapistan today mourns the loss of much loved genocide apologist Mike Megamouth. in religious news, we sacrifice these 666 glorious, god-fearing Big Macs to the regime-approved gods of Mammon and FuKyu with all our arts. In Foreign Affairs news, its all quiet on Eastern front, with an easy roundup of another 1000 native terrorists caught red-handed breathing on land we told them yesterday we were claiming, so they're off to Concentration Camp 1488, where they'll enjoy the Zionismus uber Alles, and Arbeit Macht Frei prison programs. Now I proudly proclaim the (contractually required) 'long live our wise and glorious Emperor Narcissus!' In financial news, here's no chance of other nations kicking us out of their political and trade organizations, since we're MAGNIFICENT, and they all wanna be like us, everybody tells us so. This has been another Zarathustra News update, I Ronnie signing out.
This is closer to reality than parody. That's how absurd our present times are...
Trump is by his own twisted nature, a vengeful, nasty piece of work. He uses his new found, king-like power (abuse of power) as a cudgel against anything that he dislikes or doesn't understand. Biden was no better; just perhaps more addled.
It is beyond appalling that this is what passes for "leadership" when true, balanced leadership is what the U.S. desperately needs as the world continues along this stormy path. Trump will only make matters worse for Americans as he and his henchmen spoil for more war. He has nothing to offer but negativity, lies and instability. Deception Incorporated.
Perhaps the darkness of our times will provoke the evolution of a reflective choroid layer behind our retinas, like cats. Or better yet, the development of deeply reflective consciousness —that there’s no bloody cloud being waiting to welcome Fascist a-holes into paradise, only bacteria, fungi and worms prepared to recycle and thankfully thereby purify their molecular components back into the Biosphere from whence they came. Emphasizing the unity of all there is , and therefore, the lunacy of Chosen People Syndrome.
Dearest Vin
As a cat in a woman’s body, I’m attempting to overcome my far inferior human side and achieve those feline skills 😉
Given the havoc pouring out into the cosmos at the hands of humanity, a little skepticism about one’s human aspects is not at all an unhealthy thing, gyp dear.
Very well said.
Charlie Kirk had become outspokenly critical of Israel, Israeli influence in the US, and of the genocide in Gaza.
This is absolute nonsense. He'd begun making some tepid criticisms of Israel in response to the turning tide of public sentiment among young Republicans, but he was backing the genocide until the very end. Stop trying to beatify this genocidal scumbag.
https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1949908699411288130
Caitlin, THIS! 👍👍👍
He defended genocide to the end. He found the murders of children, tens of thousands in Gaza, thousands in the US, acceptable. He truly evil man who was, if we can take a clue from Kash Patel, a personal friend, saying in his tribute, "I will see you in Valhalla," a Nazi, as this phrase comes from a Geman commander who started it, with the Nazis seeing Valhalla as where all the Nazis will meet after death.
Caitlin - ‘Left’ vs ‘Right’ are distractions, a shaking of the ant jar. This seems to be a professional hit, especially since no one can figure out the motive of the guy who turned himself in.
Check out this piece by Laurent Guyenot:
https://open.substack.com/pub/radbodslament/p/who-killed-charlie-kirk?r=bsac1&utm_medium=ios
Love your work. Keep going💪🙏💖
Here is the vote, showing there is NO difference between Democrats and Republcans in their efforts to support Israel:
" a majority of Senate Democrats voted in favor of Senator Bernie Sanders' resolutions to block U.S. arms sales to Israel in July 2025. However, these resolutions ultimately failed due to strong bipartisan opposition.
Vote Breakdown
Resolution to block assault rifles:with 27 Democrats supporting, 17 opposing, and 73 Republicans voting against.
Resolution to block bombs and munitions:with 24 Democrats supporting, 20 opposing, and 73 Republicans voting against. War is Peace: majority Dems for blocking arms to Israel = all Republicans against. 2 + 2 = 1.
Bullshit - let the white-washing begin (yes, I've read the GrayZone 'anonymous source' piece about 'a friend' of Charlie Kirk suggesting 'alternate theories' about 'charlie kirk'). Let the distractions, apologia, misdirections, rumors, etc. begin...
Charlie Kirk on Palestine: "I don't think the place exists". ( https://x.com/AntiSin3/status/1966212256288456788)
Kirk proudly espoused that he was an Evangelical Christian Zionist and generally backed Israel's onslaught.
“I have a bulletproof resume showing my defence of Israel,” he said. “I believe in the scriptural land rights given to Israel. I believe in fulfilment of prophecy. My life was changed in Israel,” he said, adding that he would “fight for” Israel.
Kirk regularly reiterated Israeli talking points about Gaza, blaming Hamas for Israeli atrocities against Palestinians.
(https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/what-charlie-kirk-said-about-iran-israel-islam-and-jeffrey-epstein)
- On July 28, 2025 Kirk posted a video on X saying "No, Israel is not starving Gazans," (https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1949908699411288130)
Thank you for posting this. It (apparently) needed to be.
And this one too... these aren't just little "forgivable" slips of the tongue...
https://zeteo.com/p/charlie-kirk-in-his-own-words?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2325511&post_id=173452031&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=17e0g&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
For someone who did not found that youth movement on his own but rakes in all the money by turning youth as crazy as himself, he hopes, he sure seems to think he knows what's in God's mind; that's dangerous country to be in.
As an evangelical he would have been taught from the bible changed by zionists in early 1900 and given to their new pastors in graduating. A bible changed to support zionist Jews in their final decision to take Palestine as their homeland by lies, murder and, for fun, rape.
What he was doing was very much the same as Israelis do to their children, by brainwashing them as young as possible they don't ask awkward questions as most teenagers do, it's too drummed into them.
One way or another, he has paid the price for his hubris.
In other words he's an establishment tool being used to make out that it's Israel's and not the US's genocide. The tide has turned and everyone is repositioning themselves- blaming the proxy Israel's influence is a good way to do it without actually addressing the cause of the genocide- his own country.
There is no difference between the western genociders USA/israel/UK/Gerrmany. All the same judeo-nazi garbage.
I keep hearing alt media commentators say this, but I have seen no evidence of such.
https://youtube.com/shorts/_OiqnSehcRM?si=8E4pNJbqyppHMiAE
There is no evidence for this claim. He was a staunch defender of genocide to the end. I just watched a recent video where he claims that the killing of tens of thousands of Gazan children is justified because they are "human shields," not noting that Hamas is protected by 100 ft deep tunnels and that killing human shields is a war crime.
I guess the people who talked against Charlie Kirk don't even know this information.
Come on Lynn..........give us some updated news on this WHITE man who speaks with 'forked tongue?'
You better find out what's going on in your country. France, is sinking, fast.
I have NO Country having lived in 4.
We all know France is sinking BUT (unlike the USA) we are out on the streets. What are you doing?
Charlie Kirk just got shot doing it, and his audience is significant.....
Is it doing any good? We are out in the US, too.
Revolutions take a long time.............read and learn.
Caitlin, what bothers me most about this 'Charlie Kirk' brouhaha is that (some) people seem to be more concerned about that then the GENOCIDE in Gaza that has killed several hundred thousand lives already - babies, children, women, the elderly, the innocent in a 2-year long live-streamed Genocide.
Seeing the responses/comments flying around the internet, it definitely seems like there is something VERY WRONG with the world (when people focus more on a complete racist, misogynist, genocide supporting, empathy-less POS like Charlie Kirk than all the innocent people being killed in Palestine, not to mention all the people perishing every day due to starvation, hunger, poverty,...)
As you say, we seem to be in a very dark period of human history...and I wish I could be as hopeful/optimistic as you...and maybe I need to delude myself just a bit as it may be necessary and what humanity needs more than ever from the rest of us observing this horror show unfolding right in front of our eyes...
Agreed. If murder is murder, why are some murders more “equal” than others. And how much oxygen is going into this that’s providing Israël cover for more mass-murder? Until this noise dies, no one will be asking the most pressing and relevant questions.
Because hypocrisy, total lack of morality, greed, and arrogance is the essence of western culture - a cancer of humanity.
Because anything that takes the world’s eyes off of Gaza is a win for the Zionists. They want to keep talking about it non stop for months if possible.
It doesn’t make much difference in main stream media. Their suppression of the genocide remains. It is up to the rest of us to keep the focus on Palestine.
hmmm... yes... sure seems to serve as (yet another, in a very long line of) very convenient distraction... from the absolute fact that the United States (using Israel as its excited proxy) is currently committing a genocide in Gaza (and expanding territory) and the ultimate cause of a million to two million dead in Ukraine.
I care deeply about the genocide in Gaza. I think Mossad killed Charlie Kirk to warn the American right-wing to stay faithful.
I don't speculate or jump to conclusions without adequate evidence - and we don't have 'adequate evidence' yet...
Like 9/11 and JFK, the evidence is in the implausibility of the official narrative being pushed and the obvious holes and flaws in the investigation.
Not at all. We have enough evidence for 9/11 and JFK. The problem is that 'conspiracy theorists' will not accept ANY version of reality except their OWN (evidence be damned).
Here is the psychology of a conspiracy theorist (in a nutshell) ->
A conspiracy theory makes you feel special and different and helps to bond a group mentality around the view that we know better than everyone else. Political conspiracy theories are especially pernicious. People on the left and the right are prone to them. They usually arise from feelings of powerlessness, of feeling betrayed by the political and intellectual elites of society. There may possibly be good reasons to feel betrayed, but the conspiracy theory only makes things worse, it is essentially a way of burying your head in the sand.
Yes, there are true and real conspiracy theories - especially widely known ones that are out in the open that no one seems to want to pay much attention to - like the conspiracy of Capitalism (and everything that it entails - including those in power doing what they can to maintain the unjust status quo), but the real ones are few and far between (and takes critical thinking and analytical analysis - and not patternicity or apophenia).
I repeat: Like 9/11 and JFK, the evidence is in the implausibility of the official narrative being pushed and the obvious holes and flaws in the investigation. If you cannot understand this statement there is nothing more I can say.
I repeat, we don't have enough evidence yet. You are welcome to jump to conclusions (as many have). I prefer to wait for verifiable facts.
Here's some more reading for you (though I doubt you'll read it) ->
(1) “It’s All Connected.” Why They Believe in Conspiracy Theories and You Don’t (https://wheresmysunnyporch.com/family-stuff/its-all-connected-why-they-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-and-you-dont/)
(2) The Psychology of Conspiracy Theorists: More Than Just Paranoia (https://neurosciencenews.com/psychology-conspiracy-theories-23531/)
And this one especially applies to you (it seems) -> "Six common conspiracy theories and why it’s pointless to argue with them" (https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/six-common-conspiracy-theories-and-why-it-s-pointless-to-argue-with-them-1.4531139)
If you’re left it is the fault of the right - if you’re right it is the fault of the left both stand proud in their self righteous beliefs, never seeing their commonality — the deep hate for one another. When there is hate, neither should be proud, neither should plant their flags of self righteousness, both are manipulated in their belief systems.
I agree, there is a ‘LIBERAL’ class, I will define as a ‘RULING CLASS’, I think that the ruling class underpins both political parties-equally. I don’t believe that the people that claim to be under one or the other parties flag can be considered monolithic or all is right or all is wrong. I do believe that there are many if not most that are caught in a political believe system much like a religion and blindly follows their narrative. It is the narrative that drives the members of each party to hate one another. It is the love of party that drives an individual to hate members of the opposing party.
This division of hate is created by the ruling class that underpins both parties and is used, as one of many, control mechanisms. When all is said and done it is the hate that is within the individual that is the problem.
An individuals actions driven in hate is never a good thing no matter which flag one carries. Only when we are once again able to look at our neighbors as individuals that have more in common with ourselves will we be able to find compassion for the victims of atrocities. Only when we see the manipulation of the ruling class will we be able to see that it is not the flag one carries rather the problem falls on the ones that manipulate and made the flag. It is time to burn our flags.
There's one slight hiccup with your comment. The U.S. has a 'LIBERAL' class (which is different from LEFT). Both liberals and conservatives are on the right (though liberals are more towards the center - especially on social issues - at least to a certain extent).
Maybe that is part of the problem - that there is 'no left' in the U.S. The LEFT are the ones that usually fight for working-class people. Currently, we don't have any party (of significance) that represents the interests of the working class.
This article expounds my thoughts
https://open.substack.com/pub/ggtvstreams/p/charlie-kirks-political-murder-and?r=5bjh2&utm_medium=ios
Thank you, Caitlin for the brilliant writing on this, as on so many other events in this dystopia we are living through. Lowering a flag to half staff for a man who thought there should be public executions on television and that children should be made to watch them is just one reason this piece of filth deserves what he got. And to all the righties weeping and rending their designer clothing who harp on about Kirk being a father, I say what about the thousands of fathers slaughtered in Gaza? And the thousands of children and their mothers and their aunties and grandmas? Not a peep about them.
Thank you Carolyn Zaremba, you are voicing exactly what I am thinking. I am amazed at the vitriol directed at Caitlin. Much more amazed at the defence of a lowest of the low piece of a human who by all accounts revelled in inciting violence and hatred.
Well, he got his wish when he was executed on television. Be careful what you wish for can be so bang on.
Zionism IS darkness.
That's why Zionists can't see decently.
Netanyahu is laughing now.
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"Charlie Kirk Dares to Question October 7th attack on Israel"
Apparently from 2 months ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsXt8RodpGc
I wrote down what Kirk said in this video in case this video
"disappears".
Charlie Kirk:
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"...We don't talk about Israeli politics very often and most Americans
don't know this. The last nine months Israel was on the brink of
civil war. It is not an exaggeration, this judicial stuff, there
were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets
because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli
constitution, that's not an exaggeration right?
There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu
where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets.
That's all gone.
Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.
I think some questions need to be asked.
Was there a stand down order?
'Six hours', I don't believe it.
Israel's the size of New Jersey.
When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border
it's 45 minutes.
'Six hours', they're live streaming the killing of Jews.
Did somebody in the government say stand down?
That is a legitimate non conspiracy question."
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Netanyahu, for one, is glad Kirk is gone.
You are the single best voice in the entire world on Palestine, Israel, U.S. and others genocede funding complicity. Not kidding. Please keep it up. Stay focused.🙏
(".....The last message that Charlie Kirk gave to me before he joined his creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence. That was the last message that he sent me before that assassin stole him from all of us. And we are gonna do that under President Trump’s leadership,” Miller told Fox News.....")
This does not say much about Stephen Miller. What is says is americans are clueless enough to be jerked around about by clearly hollow words uttered by a godless zionist.
This is puppeteering on a ridiculously obvious level.
And when the zionists have used the right to savage the left to peices, well it will turn on them next. Ask the Qataris who the zionists used to savage Syria, before dispensing with them and bombing Qatart too.
There is no doubt that the assassination has been set up as a distraction while the murder of many thousands continues. Deception has always been standard operating procedures for the zionists. Thank you for your efforts to inform people
Enough of a distraction from one the thousand West Bank Palestinians being abducted so that Illegal settlers can build more houses on Palestinian land, just as Satanyahu has decreed more settlements on West Bank Palestinian land. How many Palestinians have been abducted for the spread of illegal israhell?