“We want peace” while simultaneously launching the deadliest strike on Lebanon ever and committing acts of terror on a daily basis and committing genocide. Ugh your eyes bleed reading about US and Israeli lies
I suppose in a sense everyone wanted/wants peace. Hitler wanted peace probably as much as Churchill did. But everyone wants that peace on their own terms - Netanyahu does want peace but he wants a peace which includes zero Palestinians and hegemony in the Middle East.
Well YES, but Hitler certainly initially did not want war with the western countries - he wanted 'Lebensraum' and get rid of the eastern 'Untermenschen' ...
No, he didn't die in the bunker, that was fake. They killed a Polish guy for that. America armed and financed the Nazis, and the Reds. Both sides: proxy war. It's said that Hitler relocated to Argentina.
Still alive I hear. He paired up with Elvis and they've been doing some farming. Folks should think next time they imbibe Argentinian malbec. There might be some grapes spreading Nazi (Hitler) and hip-shaking (Elvis) cooties.
You really like writing nonsense. Ok, so MY interpretation of what happened is laughable or questionable, yet your snarky comments should be hailed as truth, and ridiculing any narrative that doesn’t fit your own. That’s interesting.
Sorry, no. Third-world rebels were, for the most part, fighting colonial regimes, or dictators imposed by the West. Israel will never have the creds to join that group.
1. To justify why we can't have nice things. Healthcare? Infrastructure? Education? We don't have time for that now, don't you know we gotta fight Saddam/Milosevic/Bin Laden/Saddam again/Ghadaffi/Assad/ISIS/Putin/Hamas/Houthis/ad nauseam.
2. To justify crackdowns on civil liberties. You and your namby-pamby Bill of Rights, you hate our freedom! What, are you on the side of the fascists/communists/Islamicists/Russians/ ad nauseam?
It’s absolutely stunning how Americans cheer its military engagements across the globe whilst the country falls apart around them and more people fall into poverty and end up living on the streets because their leaders don’t give a rat’s ass about what happens to them.
Anyone read the Sword of Truth series? Americans are the people living in the Old World and are just too dumb to understand why.
I haven’t read this series. Should I? I see the author’s first name is Terry. Can’t help but think of Terry Pratchett’s brilliant “disc world” series. I’ve read them all but the last one, which will forever remain unopened, so I always know there’s still one more left I haven’t read.
Terry Goodkind. I really enjoyed the series and I recommend it.
I’ve tried reading Pratchett, but I couldn’t get into it. Maybe I started with the wrong book.
I’ve been listening to books for almost 30 years and if I like one I listen to it more than once. Plus I had a brain injury in my teens which still affects my memory so I can read books and watch movies and it’s like it’s the first time. 😁
Yes, but this logic applies globally, not only to the US. Look at how Civil Liberties, freedoms, rights, etc. have been eroded in Ukraine because of Zelenskyy (and his dictates). Zelenskyy has (for all intents and purposes) become a dictator (and a corrupt puppet of the US Empire).
Ukraine has not been a sovereign country, rather it's a protectorate of the US, hence does what the US tells it to do. As such it's a good example of what would happen in the US itself when push comes to shove.
Are you an expert on Ukraine? What are your credentials? You're such a coward that you won't even let people see who you subscribe to. Sorry, but you don't have much credibility - and your comments keep detracting from whatever creditibility you seem to think you possess.
Are you an expert on Ukraine? What are your credentials?
You're making ad hominem & appeal to authority logical fallacies.
Do you disagree that "Ukraine is a protectorate of the US?" -Address the point. Your baseless insults detract from whatever points you're trying to make.
Ruth, you are new to the dynamics of this conversation. This isn't even a conversation about Ukraine (between russian_bot and me). This is in reference to a history of past conversations (between russian_bot and me).
So, no -> I am not engaging in the SUBSTANCE of his argument, this IS a specific rebutal (ad hominem) arguement (on my part) that mimics the same ad hominem arguement that russian_bot makes when confronted with opinions/facts that he disagrees with.
So now that you know the context of my comment, you should understand that my comment is NOT about Ukraine being (or not being) a protectorate - though that is an OPINION that russian_bot has.
You're such a coward for thinking that buying a "paid subscription" can be used as insurance/protection against Caitlin BANNING you for driving away her subscribers (both paid and free) with your toxic polemic, abusive and misogynist rhetoric, and constant bullying of her community members. Keep dancing until the music stops... and stop thinking your "paid" subscription gives you a "license" to abuse others. At least respect Caitlin that much (if nothing else).
That's in line with Israel's doings in the middle east and with the West's doings overall towards religion in general, and Christianity in particular. This forum's commenting public which is overwhelmingly shitlib, should actually cheer that.
Part of money laundering - hadnt considered that piece. Thanks. Just retuened from Cambodia - considered by some - the money laundering center of the world. Never even knew some of the lines of luxury vehicles existed - like the top Mercedez- Mah Bahn.
I heard snatches of Biden's speech on The News Hour, and could barely stomach it. It was so self-serving, trying to preserve a legacy that his behavior should have denied him and aided by the corrupt politicians that surround him. Then, he was applauded by many as an example of the old commander giving up his place to save his people. Such utter crap! If he was so concerned about his people, he would have declined to run again and allowed an opportunity for a primary where the people could have had a role in deciding who their candidate would be instead of having an unpopular one foisted on us, and then watching and listening to the delusional outcry over the fantastic Democratic candidate he gave us. People are constantly decrying the supporters of Trump as being either stupid or delusional, yet here are the Democrats doing the same thing.
Not one media report mentioned the fact that this man who made this pompous speech has put the world on the verge of nuclear self-destruction, as a result of his family being on the take in Ukraine and as the result of legalised bribery from Israel.
"War is the glue that holds that power structure together."
We need to apply liberal amounts of "solvent" in order to dissolve this "glue" called war. This solvent is called "peace." Watching that power structure collapse like a house of cards will be welcomed indeed.
"War is the glue that holds that power structure together."... For a brief moment I misread the sentence as though it stated :We are the glue that holds that power structure together"... which would have been a ,lot more accurate. i.e., We are war.
Haha! Good play on words there--liberal meaning "generous" and the so-called "neo-libs" who could best be defined by their level of assholery and love of war and capitalism. Neo-libs would never qualify as "generous" except in those two horrific things.
As close to reality as it gets. The average person is so engulfed by social norms to satisfy the hunger of the empire that resisting it is futile to a large degree. The flower generation ( hippies) somewhat closed the gap between empathy and apathy, but as time went by the old standards of enslavement came roaring back and were solidly secured.... If you own the media, print as much money as you want, and you can dictate what laws will be passed, you don't vote.
A good analysis. One does feel a sense of futility these days, at least here in the States, and I hear its becoming the same in Britain. Now they're blowing up people's phones, if it suits their "empire" goals.
The genocidal robot killing-machine keeps repeating, “I’m completely operational and all my circuits are functioning perfectly.” Do you believe it, disbelieve it, argue about semantics, OR JUST F*KING PULL THE PLUG?
I enjoyed your article very much, you speak the truth in reference to our foreign policy. For years the Vietnam war bothered me like it did everyone else but I always wanted to know what caused it. The vast majority of people would tell you it was a CIA war, that is not correct. I watched a very eye opening documentary about Vietnam, if for example you were to Google the Vietnam war, you would be told the old story about the U.S fighting Communism, not true. It was a political war that was our foreign policy that dated back to WWII, the Eisenhower administration started this foreign policy propaganda going back to his first administration. Another perfect example the middle eastern region as we know it now came after WWI, the Truman doctrine of 1948 recognized Israel. George Marshall was Truman's secretary of state. Marshall one of the greatest WWII generals, resigned his position in Truman's cabinet, because he felt it was not in our countries interest's to recognize Israel and he further felt that our military would be tied up in the middle east forever. He was right. But if you were to Google this you would be told Marshall resigned due to health problems. The United States has a failed and flawed foreign policy. The biggest slap in the face to our country is the 58,000 soldiers that died defending this failed policy along with all the other young men and women that died defending this foreign policy from Iraq to Afghanistan. If you can take the time to find out as much as you can about Vietnam the truth will amaze you. Keep up the good work.
Based on the speeches in the U.N. yesterday , it looks like the rest of the world and Arab leaders are finally going to start taking the matter into their own hands, and bypass a bought off AIPAC run US government and its decrepit, corrupt POTUS. Although the horror likely to be unleashed, will be something the world has not seen since the goose stepping, gas chamber Nazi mass murderers, and not something any of us ought to applaud, it now seems inevitable. Israel will face the consequences of their obscene and despicable atrocities against all our humanity - with their psychotic barbarity.
What a condescending asshole. The pressure on the King of Jordan right now is enormous. Even Saudi Arabia has been distancing itself from all the US/UN agreements of the last 50 years. I listened to the speeches at the UN two days ago - other than the dribble coming from the senile mouth of genocide Joe, there were speeches no one has really heard in the UN in 50 years.
Fuck you Andrew McGrath or whoever the fuck you are asshole.
The only thing that will stop the empire is to take away their ability to make money. If the empire goes bankrupt, the military industrial complex will either shut down with them or move somewhere else to continue their arms sales. Given how badly the Americans and a lot of other countries are so deeply in debt, the global crash may come very soon and the Russians, Chinese and other BRICS allies may be the only ones left standing when the west collapses under the weight of all of that debt. With the west impoverished, the U.S. will try to go out swinging with economic sanctions and maybe some military threats that will be toothless. The U.S. is still crushing the Iraqis with their economic sanctions even though they want to kick the Americans to the curb. How many more millions of Arabs need to die before the U.S. and their allies fade into history?
Your narrative sounds just about right, and probably the reason it isn't. When you can print as much money as you want, make as many weapons as you want, and incite as many wars as you need, I'm not sure what can be done about it... except for a war that would end all wars... ,
I Was living in England when WW2 started and I was recruited to join the UK forces in Europe and saw the utter devastation that our years of nightly 1.0000 Bomber raids had done to German cities using carpet bombing to include everything worth bombing such as working class housing estates and incidental hospitals and schools. These raids were combined UK/US effort. So don't expect the zionists to behave better
That's only part of the picture Andrew. The United States after the war ended, also spent years on a systematic denazification initiative in Germany, and also sponsored the famous Nuremburg trials.
So your statement here hides context, which would lead some people to believe the US was in support of Nazism, or was apathetic to Nazism. Which is a lie.
I did not say the US was supportive of Nazism, so that's a strawman. The US security state made use of Nazi scientists, who helped develop weapons systems and torture methods later deployed by the CIA.
From abuse to ad hominem. Your 'context' is apologetics. The US regime may not have 'supported' Nazism, but they approved of its methods - hence regime subversion, covert terrorism, torture and outright invasion. Are you making excuses for this?
The people either build a people-oriented system founded on love and truth, or continue down the path of wealth-oriented empires’ rise and fall until the final ”fall for all”. That’s life’s deal. It’s not negotiable.
“We want peace” while simultaneously launching the deadliest strike on Lebanon ever and committing acts of terror on a daily basis and committing genocide. Ugh your eyes bleed reading about US and Israeli lies
Hitler claimed to be for peace, until the very end in the Führerbunker.
I suppose in a sense everyone wanted/wants peace. Hitler wanted peace probably as much as Churchill did. But everyone wants that peace on their own terms - Netanyahu does want peace but he wants a peace which includes zero Palestinians and hegemony in the Middle East.
Churchill refused Hitler's peace offerings and wanted war.
Well YES, but Hitler certainly initially did not want war with the western countries - he wanted 'Lebensraum' and get rid of the eastern 'Untermenschen' ...
Hitler wanted peace... a piece of Poland then a piece of Europe and then the world. Sounds familiar
No, he didn't die in the bunker, that was fake. They killed a Polish guy for that. America armed and financed the Nazis, and the Reds. Both sides: proxy war. It's said that Hitler relocated to Argentina.
I heard that he had a sex change and became Hillary Clinton; but nothing verified.
Incredible secret Nazi technology. They truly were the master race. But fate took a hand and it was not to be.
HAH good one!!
Still alive I hear. He paired up with Elvis and they've been doing some farming. Folks should think next time they imbibe Argentinian malbec. There might be some grapes spreading Nazi (Hitler) and hip-shaking (Elvis) cooties.
You really like writing nonsense. Ok, so MY interpretation of what happened is laughable or questionable, yet your snarky comments should be hailed as truth, and ridiculing any narrative that doesn’t fit your own. That’s interesting.
Sorry, no. Third-world rebels were, for the most part, fighting colonial regimes, or dictators imposed by the West. Israel will never have the creds to join that group.
War and a Scary Enemy are needed for two reasons:
1. To justify why we can't have nice things. Healthcare? Infrastructure? Education? We don't have time for that now, don't you know we gotta fight Saddam/Milosevic/Bin Laden/Saddam again/Ghadaffi/Assad/ISIS/Putin/Hamas/Houthis/ad nauseam.
2. To justify crackdowns on civil liberties. You and your namby-pamby Bill of Rights, you hate our freedom! What, are you on the side of the fascists/communists/Islamicists/Russians/ ad nauseam?
It’s absolutely stunning how Americans cheer its military engagements across the globe whilst the country falls apart around them and more people fall into poverty and end up living on the streets because their leaders don’t give a rat’s ass about what happens to them.
Anyone read the Sword of Truth series? Americans are the people living in the Old World and are just too dumb to understand why.
Some of us cheer, at least half of us are against it but get no vote and no voice in the media..
I haven’t read this series. Should I? I see the author’s first name is Terry. Can’t help but think of Terry Pratchett’s brilliant “disc world” series. I’ve read them all but the last one, which will forever remain unopened, so I always know there’s still one more left I haven’t read.
Terry Goodkind. I really enjoyed the series and I recommend it.
I’ve tried reading Pratchett, but I couldn’t get into it. Maybe I started with the wrong book.
I’ve been listening to books for almost 30 years and if I like one I listen to it more than once. Plus I had a brain injury in my teens which still affects my memory so I can read books and watch movies and it’s like it’s the first time. 😁
Yes, but this logic applies globally, not only to the US. Look at how Civil Liberties, freedoms, rights, etc. have been eroded in Ukraine because of Zelenskyy (and his dictates). Zelenskyy has (for all intents and purposes) become a dictator (and a corrupt puppet of the US Empire).
Ukraine has not been a sovereign country, rather it's a protectorate of the US, hence does what the US tells it to do. As such it's a good example of what would happen in the US itself when push comes to shove.
Are you an expert on Ukraine? What are your credentials? You're such a coward that you won't even let people see who you subscribe to. Sorry, but you don't have much credibility - and your comments keep detracting from whatever creditibility you seem to think you possess.
Are you an expert on Ukraine? What are your credentials?
You're making ad hominem & appeal to authority logical fallacies.
Do you disagree that "Ukraine is a protectorate of the US?" -Address the point. Your baseless insults detract from whatever points you're trying to make.
Ruth, you are new to the dynamics of this conversation. This isn't even a conversation about Ukraine (between russian_bot and me). This is in reference to a history of past conversations (between russian_bot and me).
So, no -> I am not engaging in the SUBSTANCE of his argument, this IS a specific rebutal (ad hominem) arguement (on my part) that mimics the same ad hominem arguement that russian_bot makes when confronted with opinions/facts that he disagrees with.
So now that you know the context of my comment, you should understand that my comment is NOT about Ukraine being (or not being) a protectorate - though that is an OPINION that russian_bot has.
What did he do now? What credentials are prerequisite to post here?
subscribe properly chokaski cheapo to the writer you claim to support and on whose forum you take so much space then maybe we'll talk. i'm watching.
You're such a coward for thinking that buying a "paid subscription" can be used as insurance/protection against Caitlin BANNING you for driving away her subscribers (both paid and free) with your toxic polemic, abusive and misogynist rhetoric, and constant bullying of her community members. Keep dancing until the music stops... and stop thinking your "paid" subscription gives you a "license" to abuse others. At least respect Caitlin that much (if nothing else).
"her community members" - you have a basis for such a claim cheapo? that's quite brazen innit chokaski.
"At least respect Caitlin" - i do, chokaski. what about you? and remember, talk is cheap, cheapo. put your (big) money where your huge piehole is.
This is true for Christians in Ukraine. Their churches have been shut down and defiled, Christians have been sent to the frontlines including women.
Anyone study details anymore?
That's in line with Israel's doings in the middle east and with the West's doings overall towards religion in general, and Christianity in particular. This forum's commenting public which is overwhelmingly shitlib, should actually cheer that.
They don't even try to hide this fact anymore. The entire military and weapons manufacturing sector is a money laundering scheme.
Absolutely!!!
Actually the States' printing presses can't keep up with the military industrial appetite for its products.
Part of money laundering - hadnt considered that piece. Thanks. Just retuened from Cambodia - considered by some - the money laundering center of the world. Never even knew some of the lines of luxury vehicles existed - like the top Mercedez- Mah Bahn.
The whole system depends on war, it's baked in.
Well… As you know…
The entire system and our top leaders should be focused on peace.
No one's making a buck from peace.
It's a cliche, but that's a default state of every empire
I heard snatches of Biden's speech on The News Hour, and could barely stomach it. It was so self-serving, trying to preserve a legacy that his behavior should have denied him and aided by the corrupt politicians that surround him. Then, he was applauded by many as an example of the old commander giving up his place to save his people. Such utter crap! If he was so concerned about his people, he would have declined to run again and allowed an opportunity for a primary where the people could have had a role in deciding who their candidate would be instead of having an unpopular one foisted on us, and then watching and listening to the delusional outcry over the fantastic Democratic candidate he gave us. People are constantly decrying the supporters of Trump as being either stupid or delusional, yet here are the Democrats doing the same thing.
Not one media report mentioned the fact that this man who made this pompous speech has put the world on the verge of nuclear self-destruction, as a result of his family being on the take in Ukraine and as the result of legalised bribery from Israel.
It’s as plain as that.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
All hail our wise leaders.
Totally, and US voters keep voting accordingly! They have been convinced that they only have two choices. Until they wake the whole world will suffer.
Vote for the greater good. People, planet and peace. jillstein2024.com
"War is the glue that holds that power structure together."
We need to apply liberal amounts of "solvent" in order to dissolve this "glue" called war. This solvent is called "peace." Watching that power structure collapse like a house of cards will be welcomed indeed.
The Revolution......
"War is the glue that holds that power structure together."... For a brief moment I misread the sentence as though it stated :We are the glue that holds that power structure together"... which would have been a ,lot more accurate. i.e., We are war.
Indeed, however, I take issue with the word “liberal” here. It’s definitely not the liberals who are going to do it.
Haha! Good play on words there--liberal meaning "generous" and the so-called "neo-libs" who could best be defined by their level of assholery and love of war and capitalism. Neo-libs would never qualify as "generous" except in those two horrific things.
As close to reality as it gets. The average person is so engulfed by social norms to satisfy the hunger of the empire that resisting it is futile to a large degree. The flower generation ( hippies) somewhat closed the gap between empathy and apathy, but as time went by the old standards of enslavement came roaring back and were solidly secured.... If you own the media, print as much money as you want, and you can dictate what laws will be passed, you don't vote.
A good analysis. One does feel a sense of futility these days, at least here in the States, and I hear its becoming the same in Britain. Now they're blowing up people's phones, if it suits their "empire" goals.
The genocidal robot killing-machine keeps repeating, “I’m completely operational and all my circuits are functioning perfectly.” Do you believe it, disbelieve it, argue about semantics, OR JUST F*KING PULL THE PLUG?
and don't forget to remove (or explode) the battery.
We need you -- desperately -- to keep moving forward, Caitlin. Onward to Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite!
I enjoyed your article very much, you speak the truth in reference to our foreign policy. For years the Vietnam war bothered me like it did everyone else but I always wanted to know what caused it. The vast majority of people would tell you it was a CIA war, that is not correct. I watched a very eye opening documentary about Vietnam, if for example you were to Google the Vietnam war, you would be told the old story about the U.S fighting Communism, not true. It was a political war that was our foreign policy that dated back to WWII, the Eisenhower administration started this foreign policy propaganda going back to his first administration. Another perfect example the middle eastern region as we know it now came after WWI, the Truman doctrine of 1948 recognized Israel. George Marshall was Truman's secretary of state. Marshall one of the greatest WWII generals, resigned his position in Truman's cabinet, because he felt it was not in our countries interest's to recognize Israel and he further felt that our military would be tied up in the middle east forever. He was right. But if you were to Google this you would be told Marshall resigned due to health problems. The United States has a failed and flawed foreign policy. The biggest slap in the face to our country is the 58,000 soldiers that died defending this failed policy along with all the other young men and women that died defending this foreign policy from Iraq to Afghanistan. If you can take the time to find out as much as you can about Vietnam the truth will amaze you. Keep up the good work.
I think there is much truth to what you say. Thank you.
Based on the speeches in the U.N. yesterday , it looks like the rest of the world and Arab leaders are finally going to start taking the matter into their own hands, and bypass a bought off AIPAC run US government and its decrepit, corrupt POTUS. Although the horror likely to be unleashed, will be something the world has not seen since the goose stepping, gas chamber Nazi mass murderers, and not something any of us ought to applaud, it now seems inevitable. Israel will face the consequences of their obscene and despicable atrocities against all our humanity - with their psychotic barbarity.
Since when have Arab leaders ever given a damn?
Apparently since recently. I guess genocide is starting to change their minds - asshole.
Genocide hasn't changed their minds in 50 years. Bottle your bile.
What a condescending asshole. The pressure on the King of Jordan right now is enormous. Even Saudi Arabia has been distancing itself from all the US/UN agreements of the last 50 years. I listened to the speeches at the UN two days ago - other than the dribble coming from the senile mouth of genocide Joe, there were speeches no one has really heard in the UN in 50 years.
Fuck you Andrew McGrath or whoever the fuck you are asshole.
Wow you must be off your meds.
Wow, you really are an asshole.
The only thing that will stop the empire is to take away their ability to make money. If the empire goes bankrupt, the military industrial complex will either shut down with them or move somewhere else to continue their arms sales. Given how badly the Americans and a lot of other countries are so deeply in debt, the global crash may come very soon and the Russians, Chinese and other BRICS allies may be the only ones left standing when the west collapses under the weight of all of that debt. With the west impoverished, the U.S. will try to go out swinging with economic sanctions and maybe some military threats that will be toothless. The U.S. is still crushing the Iraqis with their economic sanctions even though they want to kick the Americans to the curb. How many more millions of Arabs need to die before the U.S. and their allies fade into history?
Your narrative sounds just about right, and probably the reason it isn't. When you can print as much money as you want, make as many weapons as you want, and incite as many wars as you need, I'm not sure what can be done about it... except for a war that would end all wars... ,
Price increases that cause rebellion. That's what's going on.
I Was living in England when WW2 started and I was recruited to join the UK forces in Europe and saw the utter devastation that our years of nightly 1.0000 Bomber raids had done to German cities using carpet bombing to include everything worth bombing such as working class housing estates and incidental hospitals and schools. These raids were combined UK/US effort. So don't expect the zionists to behave better
Who gave the fuel for the German planes? Without that , and the fuel additive, the planes would never have bombed Britain.
Who did you really work for? Dig a little deeper. It will all make sense. It is consistent.
You never bombed their factories. Especially the underground ones called gas chambers.
It amazes me how many people parrot history taught to them by the victors. Why not a double check?
And the US quietly imported the most accomplished Nazi criminals and set them to work.
That's only part of the picture Andrew. The United States after the war ended, also spent years on a systematic denazification initiative in Germany, and also sponsored the famous Nuremburg trials.
So your statement here hides context, which would lead some people to believe the US was in support of Nazism, or was apathetic to Nazism. Which is a lie.
Reread the Nuremberg trials. Who had consequences? The minions or the leaders.
Sham Trial
You're new here as well. Did Saruman spawn you both in his underground caves?
Ever study the Rhine Meadow death camps?
See Professor Anthony Sutton or Dr David Hughes on Wall Street and the Nazis.
I did not say the US was supportive of Nazism, so that's a strawman. The US security state made use of Nazi scientists, who helped develop weapons systems and torture methods later deployed by the CIA.
I said your statement hides context, and is misleading. Now you're playing a word game, which is typical of guys like you.
From abuse to ad hominem. Your 'context' is apologetics. The US regime may not have 'supported' Nazism, but they approved of its methods - hence regime subversion, covert terrorism, torture and outright invasion. Are you making excuses for this?
Keep in mind that Trump is a moron and Sanders a eunuch.
The people either build a people-oriented system founded on love and truth, or continue down the path of wealth-oriented empires’ rise and fall until the final ”fall for all”. That’s life’s deal. It’s not negotiable.