The Guardian went from being to the go-to for whistleblowers to an unprincipled and unabashed tool of the neocon plague. Following the raid on their offices and the editorial removal of Alan Rusbridger, a man with conscience and integrity, replacements like Jonathan Friedland and other supine editors changed the papers ethos dramatically. Single - issue neocon fanaticism seem to have taken over.
Twelve years later the Guardian has an attack of conscience? 🤢🤮. ... “Please God, make me good, but not just yet.” How many times have they said that over the last dozen years?
The Guardian. A curse on the lot of you. Used all the information given to you by Julian by agreement and then, some time latter when he needed support, used your special privileged position to make headlines against the one person that put you on the map and whose offerings gave you those enviable circulation figures.
You are, by these past actions, a leech, a double dealing user and abuser of decent principles and a publication which should never see the inside of any home that respects Julian Assange for the work he did in showing us the real USA and then contributing to the pain and drama he has endured since then through the arrogant bully-boy US show trial.
As for Great Britain (well, once great) as the vehicle used by the USA for its dirty deed, they can never be viewed favourably again either. A US puppet by any measure.
The Guardian is no better than the unprincipled USA.
And not to be forgotten is the self-described “ moral superpower” Sweden, who knelt down for the US and stitched Assange up on the ludicrous rape charge. Assange has now spent more time in jail than the average convicted murderer does in the US.
Hard to believe, George, that a country like Sweden, once so well respected for lifestyle, values and social practices could turn into a stooge for the corrupt USA and act in such an unprincipled way. One would have to guess it would have been subject to a US threat or two or some form of sanction or penalty hiding in there somewhere, the USA's favourite weapon, used the world over.
No one better at blackmail than the Americans.
"If you aren't with us, you're against us". In other words, do as we say or you're history.
Not with any connection to their lying activities against Julian Assange, George, but the really sad fact is that Sweden by making its borders at one period able to crossed so easily, it's control of immigration so mismanaged, in ten-twelve years from now it will not be the once socially well regarded country we have all known it to be all our lives.
At that time, its population will not be predominantly Swedish as we have known it, its birthrate far, far smaller than all of its new migrants, so it will have become a mixed collection of different races with values far from Sweden's known values as in the past, of course disregarding the lies against Julian for the USA.
This is not meant to be a comment with even the slightest hint of racism. But we are all different and it is the differences that make the world such an interesting place.
But as different nationalities, they don't always mix well, or think the same, or very importantly, have the same interests and values.
Yes, I agree that is the core of the problem. Matters of race and value mixing take a lot of time and can’t be forced, without much conflict on several levels.
Well, with values like what they displayed in kowtowing to the US and stitching up Assange, I’ll be glad to see a change. Liberal democracies got good press but when push came to shove, they bent over and took it instead of standing up for their values. Let the immigrants dilute that cowardice—it will be a good thing.
I agree, CXK. The plague still there in the corridors of Washington since the days of the Iraq disgrace and the 9/11 fiction.
Until the American people realise just who it is pulling the stings in their country, (hard to achieve when the media is also so corrupt) we will continue to see the decisions being made daily by the likes of Blinken and Nuland and the immediate irrational responses as a result by the feeble -minded Biden, funded on a grand scale by the Blackrocks and Vanguards, who along with the Israeli -controlled houses of government, are the real managers of all US activities.
All of the above are contributors to the malaise that is the present day USA, where the unfortunate voters are faced with the likes of a Trump, a Biden or the wicked witch Clinton as choices for the millions of eligible voters from a total population of 330 million people.
Wow, this is a brilliant description of what my country has suffered in the last many years. I would only add tho, that it started with Ray-gun, and was aided and abetted by a generation of dim witted yuppies who only wanted to join the corporate world and retire at 50. They had no idea what PNAC had in store for America and really couldn’t have cared less.
But they set this numpty society up in the left right pick a team and fight paradigm , but only one of two of the money buys politics installed puppets is all you will get.
Voting is only encourage by the establishment so you sign documents agreeing to abide by these installed puppets. Thats how they legally get your consent as the governed. Its all a great big scam. And shitlibs love it.
As is typical you type sell the idea that do nothing turn into a situational narcissist and bury your ignorant head in the sand..be a docile compliant serf, keep head down like the intellectual coward you have proven to be..another pontificating vertue signalling gate keeper...I'm unsurprised that's your advice to people..clever but transparent.
This pretend laughing you keep saying is just another indication of your fake as fuck shitlib mentality of duplicity and tactics and vertue signaling bull shit..you could just shut the fuck up and just laugh without announcing it as a ploy but no! you have to make it a point because you cant even grasp how you look like a fucking clown yourself. but that is the paradigm of you shilibs.
Conservative or even flat-out right-wing media always show they true colours. Pieces of garbage like the guardian today are cynical servants of the same masters, but posing as "progressive". I stopped reading this rag when they hysterically led the smearing campaign against Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters. It was nauseating. I would be sorry for the honest journalists who might still work there, but I won't be sorry at all when the guardian deservedly folds.
Where the hell was Australia all these years? They did nothing to protect the citizen they should have been the most proud of, along with the principle of honesty, free speech and humanity he stood for, and we all claim as the hallmark of Western society. Where were the newspapers, many of whom used his facts and research, the churches and religious leaders who claim to be apolitical
defenders of the good? They had better work overtime to free and rehabilitate Assange while they still can: their shred of credibility, and that of the West, depends on it.
When the US says jump, Australia says “ How high”? And the patois equivalent of Massah.
Nothing characterizes their very dodgy ethos better than their venal obsession with house prices, their homophobia, the fact they lead the Western world in rapes, neck and neck with the US, surpassed globally only by a few small Third World countries, and the beyond sickening SAS war crimes.
This mewling letter, even if accompanied by a grovelling apology and complete retraction would never be enough. The Guardian should be dismantled, its editors tried for treason, along with 600 British MPs all the Civil Service Mandarins, MI6, MI5 and the entire chiefs of staff of the Armed Forces of the UK, all should be stripped naked tied behind ox carts and thrashed within an inch of their lives. Just that and when Boris Johnson gives me the satisfaction in a duel of pistols on Hampstead Heath will my ire be partially sated.
I've maintained for decades the NYT is a total waste of resources, though it does have a few uses I personally know of: 1) insulation under rugs on cold floors; 2) cellulose insulation for ceilngs; 3) fire starting around campfires; 4) wiping your ass, in a truly serious pinch.
Perfect. The Grey Lady indeed! The Grimey Whore! Lied us into at LEAST 2 wars, and covered up all of Obama’s little wars. Good how I hate the NYT. But something must be scaring them if they’ll do this little Mea Culpa (so little, so late) which gives me great joy. I only wish Fitzjames’ prescription for what should happen In England should also happen here in the good ol’ U. S. of A(ssholes)
Have you ever heard the joke about how the Communist Party USA was funded by the FBI because only their agents and sources would pay the full party dues? In business, what looks like a loss on paper might represent compensation by investors for services rendered indirectly or tacitly. For instance, Uber is seen by watchers as a regulatory arbitrage play, aimed to destroy local regulation of livery service. It's considered okay if they lose money as long as they open the taxi space to foreign investment. Likewise, mass readership doesn't make or break the NY Slimes' canonical status as paper of record or its corporate existence. It operates more like a museum in that respect, with advertisers and institutional subscribers covering the costs of cultural preservation, so to speak, and the door (newsstand sales) just keeps the conference rooms stocked with cocaine.
And it all started by made up accusations by Swedish intelligence service, that “neutral” country that fooled and confused so many of us who believed in its truly independent. Then Navalny and North Stream 1&2 killed any last molecule of doubt that they ware truly neutral. At least not since assassination of Palme.
Swedish intelligence services have been seemingly an extended arm of its NATO counterparts and not really serving its people’s interests, as we saw in recent months with the Swedish NATO application.
Swedish Prime Minister (1969–76, 1982–86) Olof Palme. Nordstream I and II were the two LNG pipelines that were built by Germany and Russia and recently blown up in the Baltic.
They sold their souls for Five Eyes. Sacrificing freedom and integrity for security. Franklin said they deserve neither.
But for us pedants the context for him was quite different. But it remains a very useful quote in principle and it’s surely how the Antipodes sold out.
Thank you, Caitlin. Where were these newspapers over the last years?? Where was their indignation? The hypocrisy of these newspapers who gained so much when they reported
Wikileak's scoops, and then turned around and discarded, demeaned or ignored Assange as he languished in the embassy and now in a high-security prison..is horrific. I boycotted the Guardian the moment their support for Assange slipped towards slander and insinuation. Even Charlie Hebdo (that martyred free speech journal) never mentioned Assange in recent years, except to further smear or disparage him. I no longer subscribe. And now...NOW? they're finally suggesting the US back off?????
Our immediate thought, in my household, was that Assange must be near death; that only that could've provoked their meager and criminally tardy expression of dismay.
I would like to think these and other bogus "news outlets" would be given the same treatment Julian has gotten, for the infinite river of lies they publish daily. And I continue to "misunderstand" why these publishers, editors, and writers aren't in Belmarsh for using Julian's work.
P.S. I thank those who appreciated sacredmockingbird.com, a page I posted regarding JA. It's still worth a look, imho.
The systems that govern over our lives have all been corrupted by people who do not have our best interests in mind. Society has lost trust in nearly all systems: government, voting, police, schooling, medicine, academia, science and even language (definitions).
But there is hope. This lack of trust can be restored. First we need to be talking about solutions, basic ones that we should mostly all agree on. This starts with transparency, decentralization, rationality, and this:
> For most of time, humans lived in a world where the power was consolidated into the hands of a few kings. Then a few hundred years ago that shifted into more decentralized/democratic systems and the power was spread out.
Fatuous and Whiggish. Are you trying to drive people to lose trust in "history" (because nothing that Moses wasn't involved in actually happened)? Love of system is an English fetish. Perhaps desystematization offers much more to the human experience.
Agree. The false info on Assange is disgusting. Obama led the charge and Trump could have ended it. Dang. This killed truthful journalism regarding war. The USA-CIA military lies needed to be faced. Like the men in white helmets, we are not saints. Maybe if we would have faced the truth then, we would not have pushed in Ukraine and Georgia, never mind 7 other nations to join NATO. The pact settled after the USSR fall was never kept by us! Russia has a right to defend its territory, just as we have the right to stop invasions in Cuba and Mexico. The neocons and especially the Biden group are crazy and this proxy war was foolish. Like the strategy in Afghanistan, it will go down as costing many innocent lives and a complete failure of moral leadership. The neocons need to stop their exploits and disasters. Their democracy was not democracy, but bullying. Get out of toppling and meddling in other borders and concentrate on keeping true to your word and our border. You have made america a lie. Stop.
The Guardian went from being to the go-to for whistleblowers to an unprincipled and unabashed tool of the neocon plague. Following the raid on their offices and the editorial removal of Alan Rusbridger, a man with conscience and integrity, replacements like Jonathan Friedland and other supine editors changed the papers ethos dramatically. Single - issue neocon fanaticism seem to have taken over.
Twelve years later the Guardian has an attack of conscience? 🤢🤮. ... “Please God, make me good, but not just yet.” How many times have they said that over the last dozen years?
The Guardian. A curse on the lot of you. Used all the information given to you by Julian by agreement and then, some time latter when he needed support, used your special privileged position to make headlines against the one person that put you on the map and whose offerings gave you those enviable circulation figures.
You are, by these past actions, a leech, a double dealing user and abuser of decent principles and a publication which should never see the inside of any home that respects Julian Assange for the work he did in showing us the real USA and then contributing to the pain and drama he has endured since then through the arrogant bully-boy US show trial.
As for Great Britain (well, once great) as the vehicle used by the USA for its dirty deed, they can never be viewed favourably again either. A US puppet by any measure.
The Guardian is no better than the unprincipled USA.
And not to be forgotten is the self-described “ moral superpower” Sweden, who knelt down for the US and stitched Assange up on the ludicrous rape charge. Assange has now spent more time in jail than the average convicted murderer does in the US.
Hard to believe, George, that a country like Sweden, once so well respected for lifestyle, values and social practices could turn into a stooge for the corrupt USA and act in such an unprincipled way. One would have to guess it would have been subject to a US threat or two or some form of sanction or penalty hiding in there somewhere, the USA's favourite weapon, used the world over.
No one better at blackmail than the Americans.
"If you aren't with us, you're against us". In other words, do as we say or you're history.
Agree. Concurrently Sweden has jolted itself to the far right in any event.
Not with any connection to their lying activities against Julian Assange, George, but the really sad fact is that Sweden by making its borders at one period able to crossed so easily, it's control of immigration so mismanaged, in ten-twelve years from now it will not be the once socially well regarded country we have all known it to be all our lives.
At that time, its population will not be predominantly Swedish as we have known it, its birthrate far, far smaller than all of its new migrants, so it will have become a mixed collection of different races with values far from Sweden's known values as in the past, of course disregarding the lies against Julian for the USA.
This is not meant to be a comment with even the slightest hint of racism. But we are all different and it is the differences that make the world such an interesting place.
But as different nationalities, they don't always mix well, or think the same, or very importantly, have the same interests and values.
Yes, I agree that is the core of the problem. Matters of race and value mixing take a lot of time and can’t be forced, without much conflict on several levels.
Well, with values like what they displayed in kowtowing to the US and stitching up Assange, I’ll be glad to see a change. Liberal democracies got good press but when push came to shove, they bent over and took it instead of standing up for their values. Let the immigrants dilute that cowardice—it will be a good thing.
Agreed
Corporations and elites don't have emotions. They perform them for effect.
Exactly completely, entirely correct.
I agree, CXK. The plague still there in the corridors of Washington since the days of the Iraq disgrace and the 9/11 fiction.
Until the American people realise just who it is pulling the stings in their country, (hard to achieve when the media is also so corrupt) we will continue to see the decisions being made daily by the likes of Blinken and Nuland and the immediate irrational responses as a result by the feeble -minded Biden, funded on a grand scale by the Blackrocks and Vanguards, who along with the Israeli -controlled houses of government, are the real managers of all US activities.
All of the above are contributors to the malaise that is the present day USA, where the unfortunate voters are faced with the likes of a Trump, a Biden or the wicked witch Clinton as choices for the millions of eligible voters from a total population of 330 million people.
Hard to see any future in that climate.
Neocon plague, indeed.
Wow, this is a brilliant description of what my country has suffered in the last many years. I would only add tho, that it started with Ray-gun, and was aided and abetted by a generation of dim witted yuppies who only wanted to join the corporate world and retire at 50. They had no idea what PNAC had in store for America and really couldn’t have cared less.
Shitlibs and neolibrals are just neocons in drag.
They are all cut from the same whole cloth.
They all clap like circus seals for every war.
But they set this numpty society up in the left right pick a team and fight paradigm , but only one of two of the money buys politics installed puppets is all you will get.
Voting is only encourage by the establishment so you sign documents agreeing to abide by these installed puppets. Thats how they legally get your consent as the governed. Its all a great big scam. And shitlibs love it.
Ah, the wisdom of CXK. So relaxing... Who needs Freud, or Dr Melfi for that matter.
You crack me up, dude. Go ahead, comment on "dude".
Hahahahaha. Good one. Plus, I wonder how much “dude” is getting paid to pontificate here. 🤔
I know I keep thinking when he does not show his ugly personality here he's on his lunch break at Langley
As is typical you type sell the idea that do nothing turn into a situational narcissist and bury your ignorant head in the sand..be a docile compliant serf, keep head down like the intellectual coward you have proven to be..another pontificating vertue signalling gate keeper...I'm unsurprised that's your advice to people..clever but transparent.
This pretend laughing you keep saying is just another indication of your fake as fuck shitlib mentality of duplicity and tactics and vertue signaling bull shit..you could just shut the fuck up and just laugh without announcing it as a ploy but no! you have to make it a point because you cant even grasp how you look like a fucking clown yourself. but that is the paradigm of you shilibs.
Yes, but then serial fabulist Luke Harding and that Simon Tisdall snot would have to get real jobs, and that simply just won't do.
When I clicked on the link to read this (superb) piece, the question in my mind was "How many times will I see the name 'Luke Harding' in this?"
A game of Dipshit Bingo that even though you always win, you still always lose.
Sadly true.
Conservative or even flat-out right-wing media always show they true colours. Pieces of garbage like the guardian today are cynical servants of the same masters, but posing as "progressive". I stopped reading this rag when they hysterically led the smearing campaign against Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters. It was nauseating. I would be sorry for the honest journalists who might still work there, but I won't be sorry at all when the guardian deservedly folds.
Where the hell was Australia all these years? They did nothing to protect the citizen they should have been the most proud of, along with the principle of honesty, free speech and humanity he stood for, and we all claim as the hallmark of Western society. Where were the newspapers, many of whom used his facts and research, the churches and religious leaders who claim to be apolitical
defenders of the good? They had better work overtime to free and rehabilitate Assange while they still can: their shred of credibility, and that of the West, depends on it.
When the US says jump, Australia says “ How high”? And the patois equivalent of Massah.
Nothing characterizes their very dodgy ethos better than their venal obsession with house prices, their homophobia, the fact they lead the Western world in rapes, neck and neck with the US, surpassed globally only by a few small Third World countries, and the beyond sickening SAS war crimes.
When the US says jump, Australia says “ How high”?
As Canada says, "me too! me too!"
True. And Trudeau is betraying his father’s legacy. Pierre had a dim view of US chicanery, and he was a good friend of Castro’s.
Good article!
May all beings make better choices.
Free Assange NOW!
This mewling letter, even if accompanied by a grovelling apology and complete retraction would never be enough. The Guardian should be dismantled, its editors tried for treason, along with 600 British MPs all the Civil Service Mandarins, MI6, MI5 and the entire chiefs of staff of the Armed Forces of the UK, all should be stripped naked tied behind ox carts and thrashed within an inch of their lives. Just that and when Boris Johnson gives me the satisfaction in a duel of pistols on Hampstead Heath will my ire be partially sated.
Ah yes, when a gentleman could demand satisfaction with the whisk of a well placed glove and get it.
PMC liars don't get rights.
Like the NYTimes, I've already stopped reading this rag. Screw 'em. Easy enough.
I've maintained for decades the NYT is a total waste of resources, though it does have a few uses I personally know of: 1) insulation under rugs on cold floors; 2) cellulose insulation for ceilngs; 3) fire starting around campfires; 4) wiping your ass, in a truly serious pinch.
Perfect. The Grey Lady indeed! The Grimey Whore! Lied us into at LEAST 2 wars, and covered up all of Obama’s little wars. Good how I hate the NYT. But something must be scaring them if they’ll do this little Mea Culpa (so little, so late) which gives me great joy. I only wish Fitzjames’ prescription for what should happen In England should also happen here in the good ol’ U. S. of A(ssholes)
I thoight it was United Snakes of Amerika. But whatever, I don't know "Fitzjames"?
Have you ever heard the joke about how the Communist Party USA was funded by the FBI because only their agents and sources would pay the full party dues? In business, what looks like a loss on paper might represent compensation by investors for services rendered indirectly or tacitly. For instance, Uber is seen by watchers as a regulatory arbitrage play, aimed to destroy local regulation of livery service. It's considered okay if they lose money as long as they open the taxi space to foreign investment. Likewise, mass readership doesn't make or break the NY Slimes' canonical status as paper of record or its corporate existence. It operates more like a museum in that respect, with advertisers and institutional subscribers covering the costs of cultural preservation, so to speak, and the door (newsstand sales) just keeps the conference rooms stocked with cocaine.
And it all started by made up accusations by Swedish intelligence service, that “neutral” country that fooled and confused so many of us who believed in its truly independent. Then Navalny and North Stream 1&2 killed any last molecule of doubt that they ware truly neutral. At least not since assassination of Palme.
Swedish intelligence services have been seemingly an extended arm of its NATO counterparts and not really serving its people’s interests, as we saw in recent months with the Swedish NATO application.
I’m curious—what assassination is this? Who was Palme? Sorry for my ignorance, but it’s never to late…and Navalny and northstream?
Swedish Prime Minister (1969–76, 1982–86) Olof Palme. Nordstream I and II were the two LNG pipelines that were built by Germany and Russia and recently blown up in the Baltic.
They sold their souls for Five Eyes. Sacrificing freedom and integrity for security. Franklin said they deserve neither.
But for us pedants the context for him was quite different. But it remains a very useful quote in principle and it’s surely how the Antipodes sold out.
https://techcrunch.com/2014/02/14/how-the-world-butchered-benjamin-franklins-quote-on-liberty-vs-security/
Thank you, Caitlin. Where were these newspapers over the last years?? Where was their indignation? The hypocrisy of these newspapers who gained so much when they reported
Wikileak's scoops, and then turned around and discarded, demeaned or ignored Assange as he languished in the embassy and now in a high-security prison..is horrific. I boycotted the Guardian the moment their support for Assange slipped towards slander and insinuation. Even Charlie Hebdo (that martyred free speech journal) never mentioned Assange in recent years, except to further smear or disparage him. I no longer subscribe. And now...NOW? they're finally suggesting the US back off?????
Our immediate thought, in my household, was that Assange must be near death; that only that could've provoked their meager and criminally tardy expression of dismay.
Judas could give back his silver. Oh yeah, too late.
I would like to think these and other bogus "news outlets" would be given the same treatment Julian has gotten, for the infinite river of lies they publish daily. And I continue to "misunderstand" why these publishers, editors, and writers aren't in Belmarsh for using Julian's work.
P.S. I thank those who appreciated sacredmockingbird.com, a page I posted regarding JA. It's still worth a look, imho.
The systems that govern over our lives have all been corrupted by people who do not have our best interests in mind. Society has lost trust in nearly all systems: government, voting, police, schooling, medicine, academia, science and even language (definitions).
But there is hope. This lack of trust can be restored. First we need to be talking about solutions, basic ones that we should mostly all agree on. This starts with transparency, decentralization, rationality, and this:
https://open.substack.com/pub/joshketry/p/embrace-decentralized-systems-fear?r=7oa9d&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
> For most of time, humans lived in a world where the power was consolidated into the hands of a few kings. Then a few hundred years ago that shifted into more decentralized/democratic systems and the power was spread out.
Fatuous and Whiggish. Are you trying to drive people to lose trust in "history" (because nothing that Moses wasn't involved in actually happened)? Love of system is an English fetish. Perhaps desystematization offers much more to the human experience.
Agree. The false info on Assange is disgusting. Obama led the charge and Trump could have ended it. Dang. This killed truthful journalism regarding war. The USA-CIA military lies needed to be faced. Like the men in white helmets, we are not saints. Maybe if we would have faced the truth then, we would not have pushed in Ukraine and Georgia, never mind 7 other nations to join NATO. The pact settled after the USSR fall was never kept by us! Russia has a right to defend its territory, just as we have the right to stop invasions in Cuba and Mexico. The neocons and especially the Biden group are crazy and this proxy war was foolish. Like the strategy in Afghanistan, it will go down as costing many innocent lives and a complete failure of moral leadership. The neocons need to stop their exploits and disasters. Their democracy was not democracy, but bullying. Get out of toppling and meddling in other borders and concentrate on keeping true to your word and our border. You have made america a lie. Stop.
The Guardian, is one of the last lines in the "Gate Keeping"
I doubt it too. They went down the toilet and there's no coming back!