Emotionally stunted. Infantile. But beyond, they're relationally inept with the natural world, the Biosphere. Cannot fathom the idea fundamental to Nature that the needs of the many outweigh those of the few, or the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Defecating on the natural world means no respect for the most important philosophy necessary to be human or humane.
Love the sneer you painted on Criminal Bezos' lips.
They are all that you say, Vin, but what I have been noticing is that there are many people angry about what is going on in the world only the oligarchs have convinced those angry people that it is the fault of immigrants, people of colour, women, the poor.....anybody but the oligarchs. That, to me, is the biggest reason they are a problem.
I submit to you, Susan, that many of those angry folks might be better off, with a clearer perspective, if they themselves had a more salubrious relationship with and understanding of the Natural world.
They also scapegoat anyone who they can label "liberal." Add in the attempt to foment intergenerational strife with the many ills of our society attributed as a lump to "Boomers."
It's a kakistocracy, rule by the very worst elements in society. And of course it's not just the technocrats that fit the description but also the politicians who make everything these freaks want to do perfectly legal and desirable. Most of our leading politicians, btw, are lawyers. The legal system in this country has been shaped to serve primarily the interests of the business and tech mafias, which are adjuncts of the legal/political mafia.
Trump is obviously the godfather, now, of this sordid arrangement, which is why he IS the establishment which he deceitfully pretended to oppose so virulently when campaigning. Liars, thieves and murderers, all of them. Revolution needed to happen about 40 years ago. Now, these scumbags have so solidified themselves into power that it seems impossible to dislodge them. Voting will do nothing change any of it. No matter who you vote for, you always get John McCain.
All of our judges are lawyers so in effect the scum of the earth oversee the laws that benefit the familiars of Satan. Is it any wonder we have a legal system that is devoid of justice?
And this is exactly what Capitalism is - constant concentration of Capital, for the sake of Capital itself.
The Unquenchable Worship of GREED.
***
I think we all need to realize that the current capitalist system, driven by an unquenchable greed for more power and money, only promotes a certain type of people to positions of power. We usually call them "psychopaths." And one of the specific traits these kinds of people have is the lack of empathy.
Pathocracy is a political term describing a system of government led by individuals with severe personality disorders—typically psychopathy, narcissism, sadism, or Machiavellianism. The term was notably used by psychiatrist Andrew Lobaczewski in his book Political Ponerology (written in the 1960s–70s, published much later).
Key characteristics of a pathocracy:
-Leaders are psychopaths or sociopaths who rise to power by exploiting social chaos and normal people's psychological weaknesses.
-Truth is systematically replaced with a controlled, distorted reality.
-Cruelty, paranoia, and corruption become institutionalized.
-Normal, empathetic individuals are weeded out or destroyed.
***
"A society of Altruists being ruled by Psychopaths.":
Yes, Feral. "power, domination and control". They also have the perfect management environment in the USA right now to make that happen through total support from the current bloviating 'leadership'.
Birds of a feather, one and all.
How did the majority of US voters not see what they were getting in that ignorant man with all his power hungry sycophants. After all, they knew what they were getting.
Since March 11-13, 2020, I’ve noticed that every head of state seems to be in conflict with their own people, and at this point, it feels like there’s no end in sight.
At least that localizes your observation. I have a home in Canada and am there 3-5 months per year....for the last 30 years. My principal observations are at least, based in the fact that I have a closer view of the inherent differences between C and US than most Americans. C leaders think nothing of imposing their will on their subjects, since the entire system is based upon the political philosophy of Thomas Hobbes, as opposed to John Locke (the US inspiration). C people are consequently - obedient to government direction since they have been trained to be so since birth. I am not saying this of you personally, however QB is easily the most socialistic of all of the Provinces. I have come to conclude that the vast majority of C people actually fear the notion liberty, since it would strip them of Governmental guidance and authority. Yes, save for a handful of exceptions most States complied with the same repressive measures, and the people yelled but complied. In C I'm sure most people are lining up for covid boosters, flu shots or whatever the governments are offering via "free" health care. In the States the vast majority of folks are done with shots.
I am Canadian and I live in Canada year round. Nobody in my neck of the woods is lining up for shots. We also continued to associate and socialize with each other through the great deception.
Not only can't they lead us to a healthy future, if they could they wouldn't. You've given us a scientific, psychological analysis of them Caitlin, but in short-hand, they are psychopathic, evil people. That, "particular kind of cleverness which has enabled them to succeed as parasitic middle men siphoning wealth off of other people’s labor" you speak of is otherwise known as "ruthlessness".
Ron, it's something different from ruthlessness. Ruthlessness is present in all sorts of people - even in mothers that are ruthless in protecting their offspring (at times).
What the "Tech Plutocrats" are is something BEYOND garden-variety "ruthlessness".
Let's call it "evil ruthlessness". That separates it from what you have described. Whatever we call it, the Musks, Theils, Zuckerbergs, Millers, of our day, make Hitler look like small potatoes.
yes, we have to properly identify it then go AFTER IT and disarm them as well as nukes world wide the people of the world need to join together for LIFE
I agree that those alphas that "claw their way to the top" have all sorts of psychological issues but one commonality is psycopaothalogical. Psychopaths all of em.
Are there any "tech plutocrats" in Cuba? No, so your point is moot there. As for China, Tech Plutocrats are the same there too (as they are in every part of the world they exist - India, Russia, China, whereever). Just because you aren't as familiar with the "billionaire culture" in China (since it is not as glaringly blatant and in your face) doesn't mean it doesn't apply there too.
East vs. West, North vs. South, etc. framing is not really helpful here. Instead, it is preferable to focus on the psychology of people such as these - and the systems that enable such psychologies to rise to the levels they have in our societies and cultures (as Caitlin says).
"Chinese & Cuban scientists/tech bros" maybe you should read the whole statement before writing a knee-jerk reaction. The psychologies are well established; humanity has not advanced passed its predatory phase due to murderous psychopaths that control western governments and institutions.
Murderous psychopaths that control western governments would explain most history going back to when? I can not put a date on it. I want a planet where I can return as a little baby. Stop the bullshit.
Since 1492. When you stopped killing each other in Europe, for a little while, and started genociding around the world. I don’t bullshit like you bootlickers of empire and atrocity deniers.
Again, you repeat your mistake (which means you didn't understand my response). There is nothing here that is specifically "western" (though it seems that way for people biased against the West).
Also, you make a false assumption/assertion - that "humanity has not passed it predatory phase DUE to murderous psychopaths that control WESTERN governments and institutions".
Maybe look at the propositional logic of your statement to realize the problem?
Maybe they're just trying to distract us from the fact that they are profiting from cutting our lives short w/ their for-profit "healthcare" system & toxic wireless telecom industries.
"A bunch of emotionally stunted manchilds who are drowning in a nonstop internal deluge of shame and inadequacy and unresolved mommy issues."
The best description of the Tech Bros oligarchs I've ever come across. They are a bunch of children, but particularly self-centered nasty kids. Why anyone thinks humanity's future can be trusted to these sad, damaged individuals is most certainly suffering from some emotional wounds themselves.
Tech Bros are a great example of what happens when you don't have universal mental health care.
I say we all go and string them up, like good red blooded Americans carried away by a freak moment of lucidity. Or we just take three quarters of their pennies and rework the system into a workers state...Caitlin for head commissar, if she'll be crazy enough...
They're treasonous Nazis, not Republicans, Christians, or patriotic Americans. They are traitors trying to disguise themselves in Americana. They are the very domestic enemies and usurpers we were warned about 250 years ago! “Against all enemies foreign & DOMESTIC,” that's the pledge, right? We the People are going to have to harden up & crack down on traitors. Big time! Where is the bravery? Where is the patriotism? Where is the loyalty? Where is the honor? Where are the good people of this world? Where are the patriots, the freedom fighters, and the Minutemen? Any genuine true-blue red-blooded Americans left in this country? Start up your righteous militias. We the People possess the power & We have lightning in our hands.
since the 11th century exists a saying: "wes brot ich ess, des lied ich sing." i sing the song of the one who gives me bread.
there won't be any revolution nowadays. the doors said a long time ago: "they got the guns, we got the numbers. " but they do not only have the guns, they also have the power to let the majority of us think, what the want us to think and feel and take for truth. i am sorry, but there is no solution for the fact, that we are the slaves of the rich.
Shame. It's ok, we're not looking for cowards or excuses.
Calling all genuine true-blue red-blooded Americans.🚨🇺🇲🚨 🗽🚨🇺🇲🚨🗽🚨🇺🇲
Tyranny is here.
We the People are being usurped & attacked by domestic enemies.
We need serious counter forces. Call up your militias.
Constitutionally protected militias are free and independent of the state. Our Rights & Liberty weren't pulled out of the sky or drawn from a hat. They were written in blood & they must be defended & strengthened with blood. Rights & Liberty are only as strong as the People willing to exercise them.
I can guarantee you that the militias of old need to stay there, in the past. They would be like shooting water through a water pistol today against frequency weapons. The best way is to remove our energy from the whole sordid mess and start building a new social and economic framework.
There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. I lived without bank accounts for 12 years. It takes bravery to stop paying these elfreakos. There are very few who take on that challenge. But with many that is the only thing we've got now. We've left everything too late. And we may not have it much longer, if they bring in the CBDC system.
Even a wise, kind billionaire should not get to choose humanity’s destination. Making this about their immaturity leaves the door open for the next one with better manners. The power itself needs an answer.
Emotionally stunted. Infantile. But beyond, they're relationally inept with the natural world, the Biosphere. Cannot fathom the idea fundamental to Nature that the needs of the many outweigh those of the few, or the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Defecating on the natural world means no respect for the most important philosophy necessary to be human or humane.
Love the sneer you painted on Criminal Bezos' lips.
They are all that you say, Vin, but what I have been noticing is that there are many people angry about what is going on in the world only the oligarchs have convinced those angry people that it is the fault of immigrants, people of colour, women, the poor.....anybody but the oligarchs. That, to me, is the biggest reason they are a problem.
I submit to you, Susan, that many of those angry folks might be better off, with a clearer perspective, if they themselves had a more salubrious relationship with and understanding of the Natural world.
They also scapegoat anyone who they can label "liberal." Add in the attempt to foment intergenerational strife with the many ills of our society attributed as a lump to "Boomers."
Is that a hard on or a smirk?
I guess there's some uncertainty in your mind about the relationship between these plutocrats and the Biosphere. I myself harbor no such uncertainty.
It's a kakistocracy, rule by the very worst elements in society. And of course it's not just the technocrats that fit the description but also the politicians who make everything these freaks want to do perfectly legal and desirable. Most of our leading politicians, btw, are lawyers. The legal system in this country has been shaped to serve primarily the interests of the business and tech mafias, which are adjuncts of the legal/political mafia.
Trump is obviously the godfather, now, of this sordid arrangement, which is why he IS the establishment which he deceitfully pretended to oppose so virulently when campaigning. Liars, thieves and murderers, all of them. Revolution needed to happen about 40 years ago. Now, these scumbags have so solidified themselves into power that it seems impossible to dislodge them. Voting will do nothing change any of it. No matter who you vote for, you always get John McCain.
Well described Basil Rathbone - methinks so too!
All of our judges are lawyers so in effect the scum of the earth oversee the laws that benefit the familiars of Satan. Is it any wonder we have a legal system that is devoid of justice?
What on earth makes you think that they want to lead us into a healthy future?
They want what oligarchs always want - power, domination and control.
And this is exactly what Capitalism is - constant concentration of Capital, for the sake of Capital itself.
The Unquenchable Worship of GREED.
***
I think we all need to realize that the current capitalist system, driven by an unquenchable greed for more power and money, only promotes a certain type of people to positions of power. We usually call them "psychopaths." And one of the specific traits these kinds of people have is the lack of empathy.
Pathocracy is a political term describing a system of government led by individuals with severe personality disorders—typically psychopathy, narcissism, sadism, or Machiavellianism. The term was notably used by psychiatrist Andrew Lobaczewski in his book Political Ponerology (written in the 1960s–70s, published much later).
Key characteristics of a pathocracy:
-Leaders are psychopaths or sociopaths who rise to power by exploiting social chaos and normal people's psychological weaknesses.
-Truth is systematically replaced with a controlled, distorted reality.
-Cruelty, paranoia, and corruption become institutionalized.
-Normal, empathetic individuals are weeded out or destroyed.
***
"A society of Altruists being ruled by Psychopaths.":
youtu.be/VQ4_y3rkX5Q?t=108
"Pathocracy" captures it perfectly. I'm putting it in my quiver for future use. Thank you!
Damn right, Feral! They don't give one flying fuck about the hoi polloi.
Can you show me where Caitlin says “they want to lead us into a healthy future”?
She's saying they can't. I'm saying of course - they don't want to.
Right. So your “what on earth makes you think that” is just a classic straw man. Got it.
not a straw man, they have already killed millions. They are shutting down real science. Just look at the actions.
Not sure what makes you think so, but seems like you are arguing to argue.
Yes, Feral. "power, domination and control". They also have the perfect management environment in the USA right now to make that happen through total support from the current bloviating 'leadership'.
Birds of a feather, one and all.
How did the majority of US voters not see what they were getting in that ignorant man with all his power hungry sycophants. After all, they knew what they were getting.
The voters always could vote for the other corporate imperialist muppet.
Since March 11-13, 2020, I’ve noticed that every head of state seems to be in conflict with their own people, and at this point, it feels like there’s no end in sight.
Those heads of state are just salesmen for whatever Big Money wants. Media, same.
this
It goes back well before 2020.
Could you please explain how you came to those specific dates. I have no difficulty with your observation......just curious.
Quebec’s COVID-19 lockdown measures.
At least that localizes your observation. I have a home in Canada and am there 3-5 months per year....for the last 30 years. My principal observations are at least, based in the fact that I have a closer view of the inherent differences between C and US than most Americans. C leaders think nothing of imposing their will on their subjects, since the entire system is based upon the political philosophy of Thomas Hobbes, as opposed to John Locke (the US inspiration). C people are consequently - obedient to government direction since they have been trained to be so since birth. I am not saying this of you personally, however QB is easily the most socialistic of all of the Provinces. I have come to conclude that the vast majority of C people actually fear the notion liberty, since it would strip them of Governmental guidance and authority. Yes, save for a handful of exceptions most States complied with the same repressive measures, and the people yelled but complied. In C I'm sure most people are lining up for covid boosters, flu shots or whatever the governments are offering via "free" health care. In the States the vast majority of folks are done with shots.
I am Canadian and I live in Canada year round. Nobody in my neck of the woods is lining up for shots. We also continued to associate and socialize with each other through the great deception.
https://hxlibraries.substack.com/p/when-collegiality-becomes-censorship
Not only can't they lead us to a healthy future, if they could they wouldn't. You've given us a scientific, psychological analysis of them Caitlin, but in short-hand, they are psychopathic, evil people. That, "particular kind of cleverness which has enabled them to succeed as parasitic middle men siphoning wealth off of other people’s labor" you speak of is otherwise known as "ruthlessness".
Ron, it's something different from ruthlessness. Ruthlessness is present in all sorts of people - even in mothers that are ruthless in protecting their offspring (at times).
What the "Tech Plutocrats" are is something BEYOND garden-variety "ruthlessness".
Let's call it "evil ruthlessness". That separates it from what you have described. Whatever we call it, the Musks, Theils, Zuckerbergs, Millers, of our day, make Hitler look like small potatoes.
>>"the Musks, Theils, Zuckerbergs, Millers, of our day, make Hitler look like small potatoes"
I concur! Most definitely so!
Protect me from the monsters that cut down my father's olive trees.
yes, we have to properly identify it then go AFTER IT and disarm them as well as nukes world wide the people of the world need to join together for LIFE
All we need to do is stop funding them by taxes, interest payments, fees, etc.
Ron Stockton, It is otherwise known as neoliberal capitalism.
I agree that those alphas that "claw their way to the top" have all sorts of psychological issues but one commonality is psycopaothalogical. Psychopaths all of em.
and they get worse the more power they attach to themselves
"Tech Plutocrats Cannot Lead Us Into A Healthy Future."
I would only add "westerner". Chinese & Cuban scientists/tech bros sure try to help humanity.
Are there any "tech plutocrats" in Cuba? No, so your point is moot there. As for China, Tech Plutocrats are the same there too (as they are in every part of the world they exist - India, Russia, China, whereever). Just because you aren't as familiar with the "billionaire culture" in China (since it is not as glaringly blatant and in your face) doesn't mean it doesn't apply there too.
East vs. West, North vs. South, etc. framing is not really helpful here. Instead, it is preferable to focus on the psychology of people such as these - and the systems that enable such psychologies to rise to the levels they have in our societies and cultures (as Caitlin says).
"Chinese & Cuban scientists/tech bros" maybe you should read the whole statement before writing a knee-jerk reaction. The psychologies are well established; humanity has not advanced passed its predatory phase due to murderous psychopaths that control western governments and institutions.
Murderous psychopaths that control western governments would explain most history going back to when? I can not put a date on it. I want a planet where I can return as a little baby. Stop the bullshit.
Since 1492. When you stopped killing each other in Europe, for a little while, and started genociding around the world. I don’t bullshit like you bootlickers of empire and atrocity deniers.
Again, you repeat your mistake (which means you didn't understand my response). There is nothing here that is specifically "western" (though it seems that way for people biased against the West).
Also, you make a false assumption/assertion - that "humanity has not passed it predatory phase DUE to murderous psychopaths that control WESTERN governments and institutions".
Maybe look at the propositional logic of your statement to realize the problem?
Propositional logic is fine and backed by past/current events. That is why you cannot really dispute my point and attack me directly instead.
Maybe they're just trying to distract us from the fact that they are profiting from cutting our lives short w/ their for-profit "healthcare" system & toxic wireless telecom industries.
many are distracted and traumatized
"A bunch of emotionally stunted manchilds who are drowning in a nonstop internal deluge of shame and inadequacy and unresolved mommy issues."
The best description of the Tech Bros oligarchs I've ever come across. They are a bunch of children, but particularly self-centered nasty kids. Why anyone thinks humanity's future can be trusted to these sad, damaged individuals is most certainly suffering from some emotional wounds themselves.
Tech Bros are a great example of what happens when you don't have universal mental health care.
I say we all go and string them up, like good red blooded Americans carried away by a freak moment of lucidity. Or we just take three quarters of their pennies and rework the system into a workers state...Caitlin for head commissar, if she'll be crazy enough...
They're treasonous Nazis, not Republicans, Christians, or patriotic Americans. They are traitors trying to disguise themselves in Americana. They are the very domestic enemies and usurpers we were warned about 250 years ago! “Against all enemies foreign & DOMESTIC,” that's the pledge, right? We the People are going to have to harden up & crack down on traitors. Big time! Where is the bravery? Where is the patriotism? Where is the loyalty? Where is the honor? Where are the good people of this world? Where are the patriots, the freedom fighters, and the Minutemen? Any genuine true-blue red-blooded Americans left in this country? Start up your righteous militias. We the People possess the power & We have lightning in our hands.
Revolution is the solution.
since the 11th century exists a saying: "wes brot ich ess, des lied ich sing." i sing the song of the one who gives me bread.
there won't be any revolution nowadays. the doors said a long time ago: "they got the guns, we got the numbers. " but they do not only have the guns, they also have the power to let the majority of us think, what the want us to think and feel and take for truth. i am sorry, but there is no solution for the fact, that we are the slaves of the rich.
Shame. It's ok, we're not looking for cowards or excuses.
Calling all genuine true-blue red-blooded Americans.🚨🇺🇲🚨 🗽🚨🇺🇲🚨🗽🚨🇺🇲
Tyranny is here.
We the People are being usurped & attacked by domestic enemies.
We need serious counter forces. Call up your militias.
Constitutionally protected militias are free and independent of the state. Our Rights & Liberty weren't pulled out of the sky or drawn from a hat. They were written in blood & they must be defended & strengthened with blood. Rights & Liberty are only as strong as the People willing to exercise them.
Revolution is the solution.
if you really try to combat, you all will be brought to death by one way or the other.
Liberty or Death is the motto.
Cowardice is nothing to admire.
Home the free and the brave.
The American way is the only way in America.
I can guarantee you that the militias of old need to stay there, in the past. They would be like shooting water through a water pistol today against frequency weapons. The best way is to remove our energy from the whole sordid mess and start building a new social and economic framework.
That's sound like fear trying to disguise itself in an idea. Where's your bravery?
There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. I lived without bank accounts for 12 years. It takes bravery to stop paying these elfreakos. There are very few who take on that challenge. But with many that is the only thing we've got now. We've left everything too late. And we may not have it much longer, if they bring in the CBDC system.
Liberty or Death ain't no joke. We stand and fight or perish in the flames. Pick your poison.
Even a wise, kind billionaire should not get to choose humanity’s destination. Making this about their immaturity leaves the door open for the next one with better manners. The power itself needs an answer.
A-fucking-men!! Caitlin always manages to write what I've always wanted to write but couldn't. And I'm grateful. :-)
We (the gov't) should at least "regulate" the billionaires, like China does, if they are to exist at all.
Fantastic words. Thanks.
That was great. Typo alert: let nod led in the last paragraph.