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Jim's avatar

If war is somehow averted here, expect another 9/11-style false flag. Israel will never stop until it gets what it desires.

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SW's avatar

What I really, really don’t understand is why the maniacs in charge in Israel think they’re immortal. Do they not realize they would be bombed or are they so delusional as to believe the only damage would be to Iran? We’ve been lulled into complacency in the US because no war has affected us in over 150 years and war has been glorified by Hollywood — sanitized and showing only handsome heroes, victory over evil and no sacrifices. It’s horrifying and terrifying how reckless and stupid people in power can be.

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Maria macha's avatar

Bravo, bravo et very wellll said!

Part of their ignorance replies on that false glorification until they willll get their own coughing syrup...

They think that Iran is Iraq 20 years ago, BASTARDIAS...

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Jo Waller's avatar

Whatever Israel do it's with full backing of the US. They want war with Iran. They've said so in policy documents for decades.

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Maria macha's avatar

Welll let they go for it et seeing is believing!

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DawnieR's avatar

BINGO!!

OR....a FF to START (an excuse) the war; from the SAME Playbook as 9/11!!

Might THIS be one??.......

*** FALSE FLAG ALERT ***

This is a MUST WATCH!!

One of MY FAVORITE people on this planet......

DR. DAVID E. MARTIN

On Day 2 of the......'THE SKY IS FALLING......THE SKY IS FALLING......DEADLY VIRUS!', from the FAKE news outlets, I KNEW that it was all BULLSHIT!

So, I went 'searching'! And WITHIN 30 MINUTES, I find Dr. Martin, and the video he had done.

In that video, it CONFIRMED what I already knew.....that this was a FALSE FLAG PsyOp!

There WAS a 'CV19' Bio-weapon, but it ONLY amounted to a cold or flu-like symptoms.

And the REAL BIO-WEAPON......was yet to come.......the 'VACCINES'!!

And NOW?.....'THEY' are going to do the SAME thing; but WORSE!

AND.....'who' is the SAME individual that will 'oversee' THIS False Flag PsyOp, JUST AS THE LAST ONE?.......

TRAITOR Trump!!!

MORE Americans MURDERED......BECAUSE OF TRUMP!

🚨 Plandemic 2.0: The July 4th Bioterror Plot & Palantir’s Master Plan w/ Dr. David Martin

https://maninamerica.substack.com/p/plandemic-20-the-july-4th-bioterror?publication_id=1040302&post_id=165221529&isFreemail=true&r=19j00e&triedRedirect=true&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

We CAN PREVENT this from happening!!

CALL or WRITE (and Social Media) the CRIMINALS in the White House......

and let 'THEM' know that WE KNOW what they are about to do!!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

And DO reference their PsyOp.....BY NAME.......

'The National Blueprint for Biodefense ~ Immediate Action Needed to Defend Against Biological Threats ~ Report of the Bipartisan Commission on Biodefense APRIL 2024'

NOW is the time that HUMANS can ACTUALLY DO something!

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Maria macha's avatar

They're alllll the same criminally driven whether republicana or those other democrat Psycho et their associates!

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DawnieR's avatar

Correct!

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circa_cerata's avatar

wtf are you talking about

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DawnieR's avatar

Which part don't you comprehend??

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Nod Dranoel's avatar

globalism. Your leaders are puppets of bankers.

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Davina's avatar

Or what it deserves,

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

To have to wake up every morning to America and the fool politicians who must, to quote Max Blumenthal, be drinking bong water, is an experience I never thought would shadow my life in the way it has. Sure I knew there were nothing but warmongers in both wings of the duopoly vulture, oh right, eagle, snicker, but I never envisioned it this awful.

And I'm compelled to reiterate that only loving one another like crazy can offer any spiritual protection.

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Kieran Jaegar's avatar

That compelling is the best one I've heard in a while. ❤️‍🔥

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Loam's avatar

To whom did Congress give the loudest and longest standing ovation, Trump or Netanyahu? The US is not a sovereign nation; it is a hostage to the Zionist leech.

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Sean's avatar

You are falling victim to the semi-illusion of the tail wagging the dog. More than anything, rich people make more money through these happenings. It's not about the millions the Israel lobby invests in US politicians, but the BILLIONS for the global corporate monster, rooted in military industrial waste (of which, the byproduct is human lives and suffering).

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Davina's avatar

Which is dawned ridiculous because ghe zupUS sends billions of US taxes to Israel, so what Israel is paying to American politicians must be the money from American payers -- how bloody dumb does that make America?

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Sean's avatar

If the leaders weren't aware of that fact, THAT would make them dumb. But they know, so ask yourself what that means?

Just that it's working as intended. American corporate interests are getting exactly what they're paying for, one way or another, which is a massive return on investment, most of which comes out of the pockets of poor and middling class citizens and goes into 2nd yachts, trips to space, AI startups, blah blah blah.

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Davina's avatar

Damned how did spellcheck make that i to dawned?

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Loam's avatar

And who are the owners of this "corporate monster"? And who is its acclaimed chief representative in the Middle East? The cult's dark tentacles are long.

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John Turcot's avatar

Sean... You wrote the one word that says it all... and that word is ........ (three guesses)

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Susan's avatar

Victims?

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Sean's avatar

Billionaires?

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Antonio Brownlowe's avatar

This modern day Genocidal reincarnation of Hitler 'Nutty Yahoo ' got the loudest and longest standing applause and ovation ever, this disgusting display of admiration for this individual shows and proves to the world exactly where Americas modern day leaders heads are at, and its not good

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John Turcot's avatar

You are correct, the United Sates of Israel honor the real head-honcho, MONEY, and its POWER. .

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Contrarian 33's avatar

Is a leech the same as a parasite, Loam?

Just looked it up. "A "leech person" refers to someone who takes advantage of others for personal gain, often without giving anything in return, similar to a parasite. This term is commonly used to describe individuals who rely on others for financial support or resources while contributing little themselves.

Hey! Spot on.

All we need to determine is if the USA is the leech or is Israel the parasite.

Right now with the corrupted (Israel controlled ) climate in the USA, Trump, his Cabinet, both political Houses, APIAC, ADL, etc., the USA is certainly the Host, smothered in parasites.

And doesn't it show, daily.

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Marci Sudlow's avatar

A leech is a blood-sucking parasite. That's pretty much Israel in a nutshell, with the USA, as you observed, its host. I'd say a strong anthelmintic is called for.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

If you've ever come out of a body of water with leeches on your body, or seen a closeup of the grisly mouth radulas they grind into your skin capillaries you know how badly that anthelmintic is needed. For Israel has a large insatiable blood-sucking orifice.

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Maria macha's avatar

The reallll neocons!

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jamenta's avatar
3dEdited

These fools in charge think war with Iran is some kind of video game. Really. They really fucking don't get it. It ain't a game, and it won't be.

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Sean's avatar

It's a game to them. They care about money and power, not suffering or justice.

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3dEdited

It always starts like this doesn't it? These world wars? Jack asses who don't have a clue what they are actually starting. The war will be over in a week they'll say! Then - 60 million humans dead later ... but who knows what the fuck is going to happen now. Goddammit - we are ruled by intellectual imbeciles.

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John Turcot's avatar

Read Annie Jacobson's book 'Nuclear War: a scenario'. If anyone on the planet is alive a month after a full nuclear war between Russia and the U.S., they will not want to be.

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Feral Finster's avatar

They are not at all stupid. They are sociopaths.

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John Turcot's avatar

Sean.... Again, you got the right word......

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Maria macha's avatar

Let they play with oil et spilllll it as much it's possible!

Seeing is believing...

The only things I disagree us that Iran doesn't need to tellll them what they gonna do, just wait et let's see...

Simply telllll them globalists that they're ready as they would be, the great Persianas...

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Jeck's avatar

I think they get it. I think that, as agents of Satan, they want to literally raise hell.

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Feral Finster's avatar

They will not suffer in the least, so why should they care?

Ukraine is the model here. Sure, poor dumb farm boys are herded off to be slaughtered, but Zelenskii got his billions and his Vogue cover, and that's what matters to him.

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wilter downs's avatar

They are being fed a pack of lies by the Iranian monarchists. They cant wait to get some plumb collaborator government positions and kill their islamist rivals

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Feral Finster's avatar

They believe those monarchists, because they want to believe them.

Sort of like how, in 2003, anyone with as much sense as God gave a kitten could tell that Chalabi was stuffed with shit, but he told the neocons what they wanted to hear.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

I said this before that Zionist Nazi Mass Murdering Sociopath Trump was ever elected. This piece of shit is owned by The Zionist Nazi Terrorist Infested State of Stolen Palestinian Lands Calling Itself Israel. He will do exactly what he is ordered to do. BiBi has stated quite clearly that he intends to destroy America and Trump is doing it for him and with him. These evil creatures are Mass Murdering Sociopaths and obviously Criminally Insane. There is no other path but revolution before they kill us all.

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Sean's avatar

Agreed with your conclusion but you're underestimating the role of personal enrichment for the billionaire class. Trump's ego is a real phenomenon that would preclude his ownership by anything other than simple 🤑🤑🤑🤑, or power that promises such.

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Maria macha's avatar

Take it easy, but bear in mind that ame riiii Kas et their narcisists psychos are literally the same!

The world won't know PEACE as longer camericanosos police it for mass destruction, with the exception of BRICs newest Order...

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Curmudgeon's avatar

Please do a little research on National Socialism and its derogatory nickname. You will find that, while a flawed political philosophy (as all political philosophies are flawed in some way) there is nothing "Nazi" about Zionism or Israel. Trump is, unfortunately, in thrall to the Zionists, who have successfully projected their own character on to National Socialism. Until the lies about WWII are understood, the Zionists will continue to control all of the so-called Western liberal democracies.

“Humanity would sink into eternal darkness, it would fall into a dull and primitive state, were the Jews to win this war. They are the incarnation of that destructive force that in these terrible years has guided the enemy war leadership in a fight against all that we see as noble, beautiful, and worth keeping. For that reason alone the Jews hate us. They despise our culture and learning, which they perceive as towering over their nomadic worldview. They fear our economic and social standards, which leave no room for their parasitic drives.”

― Joseph Goebbels

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Robert Billyard's avatar

War against Iran is totally insane as it is closely allied with both Russia and China. China especially is heavily dependent on Iranian oil.

The tail is wagging the dog as the Zionists are dragging Washington into another disaster it can't afford.

Why should Israel be allowed nuclear weapons and Iran not?

A perfect recipe for WW lll !

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Jo Waller's avatar

The US explicitly wants war with China.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Because US politicians are arrogant idiots just like all western politicians are. China has 1,000 nuclear warheads and the means to deploy them. USA would be finished.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Nukes are a marketing dream whose only purpose is as a deterrent. They can’t be used. https://jowaller.substack.com/p/just-like-scary-contagions-and-911?utm_source=publication-search

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Davina's avatar

And Drumpf is spending so much of the treasury money ey on his ridiculous ego building, his not anybody else's, that if he does manage to get a war going he'll bankruptcy the country. I hope no one joins in this timetable keep it short.

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Oscar Alx's avatar

That's the point: Iran delivers oil to China and gets money for it! For the US this is two reasons to expurgate this country from the planet.

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Jo Waller's avatar

And the US explicitly wants war with China as well to weaken her economic growth.

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Jo Waller's avatar

yep.

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Feral Finster's avatar

The United States cannot involuntarily go bankrupt, as all its debts are denominated in USD.

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Oscar Alx's avatar

What's the difference between having no money and money without value?

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Feral Finster's avatar

One is bankruptcy. The other isn't.

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AnF's avatar

Weirdly enough, resource extraction rates tend to go up during war to fuel war efforts.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

It is not just about oil for China. If RF and China (and others) do not take stand to immediately retaliate by taking war to the "west" it will be the end of us all.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Russia and China desperately hope that the wolf will eat them last.

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Rock Island's avatar

Former Congresswoman Marie Newman talks about the hefty influence of corporate PAC money and the Israel lobby. Cenk Uygur discusses on The Young Turks.

The Young Turks 6/07/25— Congresswoman's UNBELIEVABLE Story Of Getting Threatened By Pro-Israel Colleagues

"This isn't about Jews or Christians or Muslims. This is about a foreign government that wants to control our government."

“...89% of Congress takes, corporate PAC money. 87%, is owned by AIPAC and the pro-Israel lobby, you know, Democratic majority for Israel, you know, United Democracy Project. And there's like seven other, faux ones out there in affiliate groups. Right. The crypto packs, all of those. So they're owned. They should wear t shirts that have, like, a sponsor name on them and say which corporate packs. - It's like a like a sports team. - Yeah. So Democrats say that of Republicans. Republicans say that of Democrats."

"Is it true of both parties?"

"The crypto guys with their meme coins and their scams have partnered up with Israel to make sure that our representatives don't represent us at all. They just represent corporate donors and foreign countries.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZkzhvaRY9M

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John Turcot's avatar

Yes, the United Sates of Israel are ruled by MONEY..... period.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Always was.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

and Satan

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Feral Finster's avatar

The only question for a long time now is which of the Empire's wars will take priority.

The only reason that france and the uk are suddenly pretending to care about Palestine is because they want the United States to prioritize the War On Russia and not the War On Iran.

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Jo Waller's avatar

The US and Hegseth explicitly told the UK and France to take over the war with Russia. What the US says the puppets do. And they buy US made weapons like Daddy says.

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AnF's avatar

It'd probably help if the US stops threatening to invade Canada and using tariffs to bomb the western global trade economy then if they want the EU to focus on Russia.

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Jo Waller's avatar

? The US threatens the UK itself with tariffs yet when they say jump we say how high and then look at us aren't we good, we're doing just what you said.

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AnF's avatar

Canada, Australia, and the UK are moving their economics into war preparation and out of US control.

Canada's administration has explicitly said this is due to the increasingly belligerent and aggressive nature of Trump's (and other US officials) actions towards Canada itself, to the point of threatening to strike the capital or invade to turn it into a new 'US state'.

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AnF's avatar

This is also seen with how the EU is militarizing and seeking to separate itself from NATO (or remove the US from NATO).

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Jo Waller's avatar

That is exactly what the US wants everyone to think to avoid retaliation but to get the job done of weakening Russia as well as to make the UK and EU buy arms from US companies like Anduril.

Exactly the same thing is happening over Iran. They will make out it's Israel on their own to avoid blame but get the job done.

All the 'war preparation' by Western vassals plays directly into US hands and is the result of their manipulation.

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Luke's avatar

Yeah well I thought cats didn’t have opinions or some shit like that. 😉

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Feral Finster's avatar

Cats have plenty of opinions.

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Sean's avatar

"Pretending" doing some heavy lifting in your thesis here. They are indeed pretending, but the reasons might be less straightforward than implied here.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Explain, please.

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Sean's avatar

Ever heard the phrase, “liberals support every rights movement except for the current one, and condemn every genocide except for the current one”?

Eventually all western states will openly condemn this genocide, it's just a matter of when, and always after it's too late to matter. It's a natural outcome of neoliberalism (which is just letting so-called ‘free market’ principles run the entire world, and just leads to rapid accumulation of wealth for those who already have too much, plus increasing suffering and death for everyone else).

At this point, it's all just games to distract us from NOTHING HAS IMPROVED AT ALL, NOTHING HAS CHANGED AT ALL. For example, the same exact day the UK seemed anti-genicide they later on approved a massive arms shipment to Israel. It's smoke and mirrors, and they've been forced to start saving face a bit earlier than they might prefer, but still years too late to help the Palestinians.

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TS's avatar

Gosh, if Trump declares war on Iran, he may have to pull troops out of Los Angeles.

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AnF's avatar

If the US goes to war with Iran, it will almost certainly go to war with other countries in West Asia (potentially Afghanistan again too, which would be... amusing) and likely Russia too. If nothing else China would be supplying Iran with weapons and equipment very openly.

Back internally, public support for the current regime will drop even lower and the economy will grind to a halt since the US relies on global trade to actually have anything useful now after it cannibalized its own industrial base.

We'll see protests, riots, and skirmishes between all sorts of groups since the 'Rule Of Law' has gone out the window due to trump's actions and the ongoing kidnappings of legal residents and US citizens into death camps or just vanishing from all records.

The US would likely implode in such a scenario, and not in a way that benefits the fascists currently in charge.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Good point.

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Gulzhan Musaeva's avatar

The US is the history's biggest warmonger whose imperial ambitions were always hidden behind claims of moral supremacy.

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AnF's avatar

All empires are built on claims of moral supremacy; often to hide the ethnic cleansing and cultural destruction they do.

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Theodore Harley Knight's avatar

What happened to the peace president? Why paint Iran as the enemy? Who are we, USA, to tell them they can’t have a nuclear weapon?

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Sam's avatar

The peace president pulled an Obama. Presidents tell their base what they want to hear and once elected pretend that they never said it.

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Sera's avatar

We have an opportunity, most unfortunately, to witness in real time the kind of event that future generations, should there be any, will accompany with the words:

“What were they thinking?

How could this have happened?”

It’s happening because Zionists want it to happen. Trump doesn’t want it, though he’s surrounded by people who do. Iran doesn’t want it. Why would they?

But consent for this war has been manufactured by every mainstream media outlet in five countries. The American people simply don’t know any better.

It’s true that the psychotic, far right, Israeli government has a bought and sold American Congress under their thumb.

But I’d put my money on the intelligence community as the real culprit. They seem to have been taken over long ago. Insanity.

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Jim's avatar

‘By way of deception, thou shalt do war.’

Mossad motto

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Jeck's avatar

yes

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Feral Finster's avatar

I doubt Trump cares all that much, one way or another. Flatter him and he'll eat out of your hand.

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Richard Parker's avatar

I don't understand why Iran should attack the US directly. That's asking for trouble and would not gain global support.

If it sent a load of high explosives straight into Israel, there would be a lot of understanding globally.

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AnF's avatar

Iran was saying it'll strike US bases if Israel attacks it, because the Iranian government understands that Israel is really just a military satellite-state for the US hegemony in West Asia.

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Kassandra Ignored 🤓's avatar

As usual the idiots never look at the consequences of their actions. Their arrogance, incompetence and inexperience have led them to a bad decision.

If this does happen, who will defend Israel from counter attacks.

He is already pulling personnel. Any deployment to assist outside of air and naval support will take months.

Nuclear fallout even if small will affect the area. This will affect worldwide oil prices, even in the US.

Qatar may kick out military personnel in the area who provide intelligence to our Navy and other forces.

This will impact China and they may pull out of deal for rare earth metals and magnets.

Both, as well as steel and aluminum are needed for our weapons production.

There are tariffs on both.

Even if tariffs are lifted they may still not want to trade.

We need Saudi Arabia Qatar and Kuwait for staging areas. Their governments may fear backlash from their citizens not for attack on Iran but because of Israel attack destabilizing area.

I hope if there is an attack it is limited as usual.

The orange turd and Netanyahu love to use bluster and aggressive rhetoric to please their bases.

There are no competent adults in the regime. But phone calls from world leaders may persuade him. 🤞

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Luke's avatar

All logical conclusions of the fallout. I’m confident Trump and Gabbard will not want this. However I’m NOT confident they can stop rogue elements. Similar to Ukraine attacking the Russians with the drone swarm.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"I’m confident Trump and Gabbard will not want this."

HaHaHa - yes, I forgot that "Luke" here is a Trump mind reader. So what does Trump think of special little Luke, Luke?

Talk about Trump's cultish supporters - they will support Trump (and defend him) just like Cult members worship their cult leaders.

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Luke's avatar

No, I actually lost a lot of faith in him last couple of weeks. Was very upset after what Graham and Pompeo pulled without repercussions. Ditto for the drone attack. Thought it make Trump look weak or he didn’t have control of the his government. Then I learned from listening to Judge Naps show from people like Crooke and Ritter that some elements he just doesn’t.

I understand why he must talk a big game though. I can also understand why that might get on some nerves. I had once heard that he never authorized the attack on Solemani. I know he blabs about it a lot. Like I said he probably doesn’t have a choice. He has to appear in control of the situation at all costs.

I am also the one who suggested in early 2024 that perhaps the same people who removed Trump in 2020 using Covid, color rev riots, and mass mail in ballots actually may want him restored in 2024. In 2021 the Globalists were firmly in the driver’s seat. All they really needed to do was knockout and destroy Russia. China and the rest would have no choice but to capitulate.

However that didn’t happen. They really believed it would be easy using the fierce ideological army of Ukraine and sanctions to bring down Russia. But it didn’t go down like that so as of early 2024 they knew that they may have to actually fight a war. Trump would be the best recruiter to ensnare patriots young mostly white Americans to join up.

You see Chang Johnny Rebs are much better fighters than purpled haired fags like the ones the Democrats recruit haha.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

You still seem to be under the illusion that Trump is not part of the 'Deep State' or that he cares about America or the people of America.

Trump cares about Trump. Period. The buck stops here. Everything he does (and doesn't do) is for one person ONLY - and that is Trump. He's a very simple person to understand, and maybe the 'simplicity of Trump' seems to confound people. People expect Trump to be some '10-steps ahead calculating mastermind'.

Trump is a conman, grifter, fascist, racist, a narcissist, an unhinged psychopath and sociopath, AND an expert manipulator (as evidenced by the Trump/MAGA cult members).

People seem to be giving Trump too much credit (in attempting to understand his MADNESS). Remember, this is the SAME guy that suggested (in full seriousness) that one should inject bleach into their bodies to combat the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Trump is scientifically and economically (and in many other ways) stupid, ignorant, uneducated, misinformed, and possibly semi-literate?

But above all, Trump is a Strongman (see: "Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present" by Ruth Ben-Ghiat). And all strongmen like to bully others as their modus-operandi way of doing things.

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Luke's avatar

Yeah your brain is pretty washed with left wing media drivel. You people really make no logical sense and that’s why you are always surprised and caught off guard. You think with your feelings instead of your head. You piss your pants over the tinies things. I’m sure you are on SSRI and have a couple therapists lol.

A lot of conservatives are still under the assumption that Israel is our greatest ally. One thing that might be occurring here is that Israel is deliberately going to strike Iran is to coincides with the leftists day of rage Sat 14th.

You may get a charge out of that Chang but let me tell you the right is getting very close to finally make an appearance. I do not want to see this. If they cut loose shit is going to get bad here. I consider myself a sane voice but you hard cores do a lot of pushing.

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Nicky Solomon's avatar

There are no leftists . Any sign of leftism in our governments has been watered down for years to make way for the liberal/ capitalist duopoly. Israel managed to kick out Jeremy Corbyn from his position of Labour leader in the UK . You have been brainwashed by their insidious lies.

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hierochloe's avatar

"Yeah your brain is pretty washed with left wing media drivel."

And you are clearly a profoundly retarded chud - the only rounds you put on target in this thread were against supporting wizz rail, the rest is right wing brain rot from someone that's spent too much time in the cult. You got a lot of deprogramming to do, I hope you get there. Stick with the Judge.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"Yeah your brain is pretty washed with left wing media drivel."

Luke, this has NOTHING to do with the Left-Right political spectrum. There isn't even a LEFT in the U.S. Political establishment.

FYI, Democrats are NOT 'leftists' - they are liberals - capitalists just like the Republicans are capitalists.

>>"leftists day of rage Sat 14th."

AGAIN, Democrats are NOT 'leftists'. They are 'liberals'. Here are two links that will help you differentiate between the two (and hopefully learn something in the process) ->

(1) Leftist vs Liberal: What’s The Difference? (https://differencely.com/leftist-vs-liberal/)

(2) Leftist vs Liberal: Key Differences (US Politicians Listed) (https://helpfulprofessor.com/leftist-vs-liberal/) Note: I disagree with their 'LEFT' politicians. I would call them CENTRISTS. Neither Sanders not any of the other politicians desire a move towards Socialism.

Now that I brough up the word Socialism, I'm sure you're going to throw at me your 'ideas' about what YOU think is Socialism, Communism, etc. Rest assured, WHATEVER you think Socialism/Communism is, it is NOT.

BTW, I loathe the Democrats ALMOST as much as I do the Republicans.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Name-calling is a poor substitute for argument.

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Kassandra Ignored 🤓's avatar

You have more confidence in Gabbard than I do. She has already shown she has no spine by firing the experts who advise her.

I’m kind of counting on his ego. World leaders are more prestigious than Kegseth.

The only rogue element that I see is Netanyahu. He doesn’t care about anything except his own political survival.

He will act and then deal with the consequences by giving the world the finger. Hopefully his advisors will bring up the fact that full US military help is not guaranteed.

Declaring a war in Congress will not be guaranteed even with a simple majority. The Senate will probably block.

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Luke's avatar

I try and listen to the experts when I can. People who are counterbalances that I respect like Scott Ritter & Alistair Crooke. Ritter was talking about some of the rogue elements in the Deep State. There’s a group called Russia House who are members of the CIA. However even the CIA can’t control them for the most part. He said they have been around for many years. I am sure there are other groups too.

Everyone makes the assumption that Israel has simply bought off the politicians and media using orgs like AIPAC. It’s either that or sexual blackmail. I’m at the point now that I think it’s probably worse.

Apparently Netanyahu recently said that if Israel goes down they won’t be the only one. I don’t know if that references the Sampson option or they have their filthy bankers implode the worlds economy? 🤷‍♂️

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Kassandra Ignored 🤓's avatar

I’m pretty basic in my analysis. Countries don’t have friends they have interests.

Israel has had spies or sympathizers in the US intelligence agencies. Not sure of any actual groups.

I’m a nerd and look at confirmed sources not just political speculation from experts because they too can be biased. But many times they are on point.

I look at who benefits in any action. Most can be broken down to money or power.

I see this more in the power side. Netanyahu is deeply unpopular. His strong polls have been counter terrorism and he has string support from the more conservative Jewish religious community.

Trump is the same. Just he is popular among the evangelical community who are strong supporters of Israel.

While neither are religious they do exploit the religious beliefs of their followers. That means a single Israeli state.

For the peach pol pot and Netanyahu there also may be a financial benefit through real estate investment. Both are corrupt. So this is a fairly safe analysis.

IMHO that checks the power and money reasons in who benefits.

But greed and political ambition is blind. There is an arrogance in believing that their plans and actions will have no negative consequences. If contrary advice is given it usually is dismissed. Confirmation bias is at play here.

The experts you cite could very well be correct.

It is difficult to analyze a stupid mercurial liar.

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Luke's avatar

I’m sorry but I have a feeling you are getting a lot of your information from the Bolshevik side of town. They have an iron grip on vast majority of media. Many conservatives (even Christians) are becoming vehemently against Zionists. I know because I’m working on them.

Check out this clip from a guy you might follow.

https://x.com/ajaqrabawi/status/1932991873221865799?s=42

Check out the responses to Tom Cotton. These responses are all from conservatives or people I follow. Shit that means you may not see them lol. Well trust me then he gets hammered as far down as I can count.

https://x.com/sentomcotton/status/1932904040763175391?s=46

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Kassandra Ignored 🤓's avatar

I am not saying they are all pro Zionist. Many (not all) want one Israel state because it fulfills prophecy. Not because they like the Jewish people.

It is also not about the beliefs of the supporters for either the peach pol pot or Netanyahu. It is about political power and siding with those who are able to help them gain it.

People can believe whatever they want. It is guaranteed in the first amendment.

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Kassandra Ignored 🤓's avatar

I don’t follow anyone on X. Tom Cotton is a politician. He says whatever benefits him.

I am not a Bolshevik.

I am a nerd. I use game theory and other analytical economic and military analytical methods to make analysis.

You can believe what you like.

I also don’t understand your “I’m working on them comment”

Best of luck

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hierochloe's avatar

"Kegseth" lmao thanks

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Kassandra Ignored 🤓's avatar

You are welcome!

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Oscar Alx's avatar

Live in Hawai'i is expensive, and when you are no longer receive the salary of a member of Congress it is not easy! Tulsi has recognized this and followed the call of the highest bidder. Nowadays she also sacks those people who don't have the right intelligence, as required to keep the job. Pity, she was kind of a hot chick.

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Kassandra Ignored 🤓's avatar

I never liked her. She flip flops tons. She is attractive but I require more than looks in my political choices. 😂

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Luke's avatar

Shit most of those congress critters are slap loaded. What does Maxine Waters have for an IQ? Somewhere around 60 I presume. Doubt she had a biz beforehand. She couldn’t run a lemonade stand and is worth over 30mil.

That’s something the DOGE snooping uncovered. So many of them both parties have made ridiculous amounts of money on their meager salaries. Tulsi was a Democrat, minority, and woman. The sky was the limit for her lol. The fact she’s not rolling in the dough says much about her heart.

I trust her more than anyone else in that government including Trump. Honestly, he’s been ruffling my feathers as of late. Like Tulsi I don’t believe he is evil. Egocentric yes, but not evil.

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Oscar Alx's avatar

I have been following the shitshow of American politics for well more than half a century. It would not use the word "trust" in context with any American politician. And you suggest serial bankrupt Trump who lets his tradies starve? I think, you mean well, but hope without reality is mere frivolity.

Chomsky thinks all presidents should have their Nurembergs and dangle in the wind. "Dangling in the Wind" would also make a great Elton John song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXtgq0Nhsc

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Luke's avatar

You said tradies ? What is that? Admittedly I don’t have my glasses on either. And I would never trust a Bolshevik like Chomsky anymore than a Zionists. lol they are exactly the same.

Take a look at this 1min clip. Was posted by a guy I best most people on this thread follow on X.

Again, they are one and the same. I am trying to convince conservatives of the same thing. I was just working on some of them. We must stop letting them split us.

https://x.com/ajaqrabawi/status/1932991873221865799?s=42

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Oscar Alx's avatar

A tradie is a tradesperson. And if you feel so strong about it, go and seek martyrdom yourself.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

CJ>>"This could all be avoided by the US simply ceasing to support the genocidal apartheid state of Israel no matter what it does."

But Caitlin! The US cannot simply cease supporting the genocidal apartheid state of Israel - no matter what - that's how INTEGRAL Israel is to the U.S. Empire. The U.S. Empire can do without Canada, Australia, U.K., etc. but it cannot do WITHOUT Israel. Why do people NOT understand this YET after 20 months of the world's first-and-only live-streamed Genocide?

The public (i.e. we the people) STILL do not know the FULL extent of the collaboration of the U.S. with Israel, and I doubt that we ever will. But it is CLEAR that the U.S. Empire is willing to risk ITS VERY EXISTENCE for Israel.

More and more, it seems like bringing down Israel ALSO means bringing down the U.S. Empire. Well, Israel has to be brought down one way or another, so might as well let's bring down the U.S. Empire too, right? (Yeah, I know this is sounding very improbable and depressing right now...)

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Kieran Jaegar's avatar

It ain't impossible. But it's a helluva climb. Only feasible way to expose what's really going on is a President who doesn't represent corporate interests and doesn't take money from shadow orgs or foreign entities (gonna need some hefty backend vote verification in case they're rigged). Then that person has to go on a four-year investigation spree, and anything that The Powers That Be try to claim is beyond their clearance level, that's where the dirt hides. (How can the President lead the entire Executive branch of the nation unless they're fully clued in to what it's doing?)

A spotlight of focused collective attention where it actually needs to go instead of where the moneyed pull it (aka "a good old-fashioned enema of light"). That should get 'er running again.

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John Turcot's avatar

Mr. Trump declared that The Gulf of Mexico ...would now be known as The Gulf of America'... but when President Netanyahu addressed his congress, he just forgot to instruct Mr. Trump that the Unted States of America would now be called 'The United States of Israel.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Not at all. You have it backwards. Israel IS an integral component (and it seems also a necessary component) of the U.S. Empire. From what I see (highly subjective opinion here), knocking down Israel puts the U.S. Empire at risk to an extent that makes the U.S. Empire Managers shake in their boots at the very prospect of it.

Like I surmised earlier, we the people (general public) are unlikely to EVER KNOW the full extent of the role Israel has played in history (and is continuing to play currently) for the U.S. Empire.

NOTE: When I say U.S. Empire, I DO NOT MEAN 'United State of America the country' or 'the people living in America'. To me, U.S. Empire means TPTB, the Global Corporations and capitalists, the global oligarchs, the Empire Managers.

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John Turcot's avatar

Yes, whether the unites States of America or Israel, the real name of everything frim which empires exist is called wealth.. no argument there….

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AnF's avatar

Without Israel in West Asia, the various Arab countries would be far better positioned to tell the US to fuck off.

Also Israel's various highly illegal death camps and intelligence agencies do a lot of wetwork and black ops for US interests that the US doesn't want 'direct' involvement in but also wanted a CIA like organization doing it.

It's why the two countries are so interconnected.

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Longtrail's avatar

Tulsi sold her soul to the zionist cabal.

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