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Most people who criticize China including those on the left have never been to China and only get their information from biased bourgeois sources in the west. China is nothing like what your press tells you about. Their is more personal and individual freedom there and less repression than in the so called democratic countries. I lived and worked there for 5 years. China and the CPC are worthy of praise and emulation in so many regards. Don’t fall for the propaganda.

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I doubt that dissidents such as Ai Weiwei would agree with your assessment.

"The artist argues that the controlled distribution of information in China allowed the government to manipulate and skew reports around the pandemic. “Over a long period of time, people had no idea what was going on and that gave the virus a chance to spread, and for people to question the real situation, like, first, where does this disease come from and how has it been spread?"

Weiwei also reflected on the role of artists and intellectuals in Chinese society and claims that “to be an individual mind or a critical voice is like suicide in China—it’s impossible”. He adds, “Art plays a crucial role in societies, but in China it never functions as it should due to current strict censorship laws.”

The Berlin-based artist also briefly reflected on the perils he once faced as an activist artist in China, from which he has been self-exiled since 2015. “I’ve been erased for all media, including the Internet, and have physically faced police brutality and detention—the Chinese government has used all possible means to dirt my name,” he says. “I think that a healthy society would allow freedom of speech and the free flow of information and communication.”"

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/ai-weiwei-speaks-at-human-rights-conference

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Just fall for yours...that is. Because you didn't have a problem, there is none, then? Many of the countries staunchest critics HAVE lived there. Falun Gong, Uighurs, and European businessman talk about repression in China. China is supplying Fentanyl to the drug cartels in Mexico. Our nation's "power elite" are hoping to emulate China's total control methods, credit score manipulation, facial recognition technologies, as well as it's censorship. Most ordinary citizens are oblivious to this growing censorship in the US, don't know why it would be any different in China.

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All very true. But let's not paint the CPC as some paragon of democratic virtue. Its government executes, it seems, a far larger number of people every year than does the USA or any other nation on Earth. Their police commit acts of repressive violence vastly worse than the anti-poor, racist US counterparts. There is little freedom of speech and no means to organise political opposition without risking a lifetime in prisons whose conditions are much more severe than those here in the UK. Whilst we might not have the ability to influence Chinese government policy as we can in the USA and UK, we must not ignore the harms caused to ordinary people by repressive governments just because the US administration regards them as enemies.

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I don’t think Caitlin is arguing that China is good, just that it’s weird that the media doesn’t gin up hate for Saudi Arabia which is the number one sponsor of terrorism because they’re our ally and China is our economic enemy

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Actually, the US Regime is the number one sponsor of terrorism. Saudi Arabia is one of their sponsored terrorist regimes. The Israeli regime is another. Both are attack dogs who faithfully obey their US Regime masters because they really love it when the US throws them WMD doggy treats.

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I don't deny that. My point is that it is inconsistent to ignore the abuses of the Chinese government, and it plays into the hands of the anti-socialists who claim that the Left only fights for people under capitalist regimes. The same argument was used during the Cold War.

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I agree. However, many on the Left explicitly use the argument that we should use our limited resources against the USA/UK etc rather than against the abuses of China, Russia et al simply because we live in these countries and that the political systems are rather more vulnerable and amenable to change. Is that not more of an excuse than a good reason for ignoring the plight of many people - religious & ethnic minorities, political dissidents etc.?

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Only the "orange" media...all the rest are squarely in "friend" mode d/t Biden's overtly bribed family ties & Power Elite (ex.Gates genetic mutation with the WHO). US dependence on China steel, 97% of our antibiotics, 80% of all active ingredients in pharmaceutical drugs /suppliments across the board, that became apparent during COVID, & angered the public. They should be angry with our gov't 1st & foremost, granted. I personally believe that the CIA-q-people have co-opted this real actual dysfunctional relationship (with China) and are now using it to pull it's overwhelmingly conservative audience in a familiar direction.."other" preoccupation. China also chose economics over human life, & exported COVID knowingly as well. That's if you don't believe it was

designed & intentionally released with 1 or both countries knowledge.

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You are full of nonsense. Chinese police are not aggressive like the American police. And public debate on policies are allowed in a civilized manner, though sometimes it gets violent and normally towards the police. You don't know about China, you don't speak Mandarin nor any of the dialects, you have not lived in China. Stop spewing nonsense.

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I think the protestors in Tibet and HK have a different opinion than you do of the police's level of aggression. Or do they not count because some of them are pro-US?

"At least 60 Tibetans were injured after Chinese police fired into a crowd of protesters, rights group Free Tibet and US-based Radio Free Asia report. The shooting occurred on Sunday in Biru county, as villagers demanded police free a man who led separate protests in September, the reports said."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-24442218

"A new Amnesty International field investigation has documented an alarming pattern of the Hong Kong Police Force deploying reckless and indiscriminate tactics, including while arresting people at protests, as well as exclusive evidence of torture and other ill-treatment in detention.

Interviews of arrested persons and lawyers by Amnesty International show that police violence most commonly occurred before and during arrest. In several cases, detained protesters have also been severely beaten in custody and suffered other ill-treatment amounting to torture. In multiple instances, the abuse appears to have been meted out as “punishment” for talking back or appearing uncooperative.

A man detained at a police station following his arrest at a protest in the New Territories in August told Amnesty International that after he refused to answer a police intake question, several officers took him to another room. There, they beat him severely and threatened to break his hands if he tried to protect himself."

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/09/hong-kong-arbitrary-arrests-brutal-beatings-and-torture-in-police-detention-revealed/

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We know for a fact the US REGIME broadcasts their warmongering propaganda 24/7 throughout the MSM, and has done so since the early days of radio.

The question of the day is, what are we going to do about it?

Posting blogs, tweets, and Facebook comments do absolutely nothing at all.

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Given the continuity of plutocratic continuity between the governments of Bush Obama Trump and Biden combined with the media's facilitation of that control, the term regime could rightfully be applied to America as well.

You rightfully drive home the point that the battleground for any war-making first takes place between one's ears.

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Excellent and important journalism. The terms and labels attached to people and/or governments by the media shape the narrative. The DNC and the corporate liberal media used "socialist", "Russian asset", and "Assad apologist" to delegitimize the 2020 Sanders and Gabbard presidential campaigns and American citizens and the rest of the world will suffer greatly as a result. It's clear that our top political, military and intelligence officials and the corporate media they control are engaged in a disinformation campaign aimed at American citizens in service of fabricating “enemies” to justify their huge budgets and genocidal colonial wars. Their utter lack of concern let alone guilt for the millions of innocent human beings murdered or displaced as refugees as a result of US "interventionist wars" and “wars on drugs” in the middle east and Latin America revealed to be based on lies is astounding. The bipartisan racist, sociopathic zeitgeist that describes US policing and foreign policy is unconscionable.

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Whenever I post an article or response on SM, I use the term 'regime', i.e., the trump regime, now the Biden regime. I try to encourage other writers to do likewise.

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