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Levi Tate's avatar

They already showed their hand when it was made illegal to call genocide genocide.

Jo Waller's avatar

Yes, and 'they' are US based interests in oil, arms, AI, pharma, finance, media and tech.

dany's avatar

Never Forget that the state of Israël was designed by the UK one year before the Balfour déclaration…

No surprise that the UK government makes everything to save it at the moment where its légitimity is minimal worldwide

Jo Waller's avatar

No. The interests are US based, in Washington and Wall Street. Anyone in 'power' in the UK who is feathering their own nest by sacrificing Palestine, peace and the best interests of the British people are US bitches only.

Hassan Al-Mosawi's avatar

Well done for publishing and saying - Peace be upon you by Gaza and Jerusalem - Honour and victory are the allies of the axis of resistance and its allies, and humiliation and shame are for the axis of evil, Epstein Class (USA, Britain, France, Turkey, Qatar, UAE, NATO Governments, Zionist and Israel) and its allies.

John Turcot's avatar

You forgot one culprit in your list of bad people …. Homo Sapiens.

Ken Taylor's avatar

Maybe not ALL of the H.S. I know that there still some decent ones out there; however you won't likely find them residing in/on the land stolen from the Palestinians,

Davina's avatar

And not one tiny mention that Starmer's wife is Jewish, is that why she wanted to keep a low profile? She wanted to do her job of tuning him in private.

I think it's time we checked just how many men in leadership positions were led into marriage by Jewish females, who were following their instructions from israel - it takes full on dedication to have to complete wifely acts with someone like Starmer, but zionist trained (brainwashed) would be able to do it. There are a definitely men who were pro-Palestine that are now setting laws that should be illegal in what are known as white Anglo countries. This is an odd shift because so many people who once were fooled into feeling sorry for israeli jews now see the truth and have turned their backs on them - because of the horrors they are still enacting on unarmed civillians, including children and babies. We saw through their "forever victim" lies, yet there are those in high positions who have done the opposite - who is sleep-talking them?

Robyn's avatar

Great question.., you, me and millions of sane people would love to know the answer to that conundrum

It is absolutely beyond comprehension

David Baird's avatar

Good point, Davina!

John Turcot's avatar

I think politicians get well paid, but by the Israeli lobbies. Although marriage to the Chosen may have some weight, it pales in comparison to what a well stuffed bank account means.

By submitting our payments to the owners of the earth, the money wagons just keep on rolling and politicians just get on the money wagons…

John Turcot's avatar

Thoughtful question Cornelia… “everyone? “

If Gandhi was accurate in stating: “Be the change you want to see in the world”, then yes, everyone.

Michael Dursse's avatar

Present company included?

John Turcot's avatar

Last time I looked, I was still a Homo Sapiens… unfortunately.

Evelyn Craig's avatar

Well No not all Us HS are evil and inhuman

John Turcot's avatar

“ not all IS HS are evil and inhuman”

Couldn’t agree more. Since my father and grandmother hailed from the U.S and were as good and sound as it gets in my view, then your comments are most accurate.

I couldn’t have loved them more. But in the real world, our species may be about to annihilate itself, along with most life on Earth… We can do something about that as a species, but we don’t.

Why for instance can’t we find a way for all humans to have a home of their own. The answer lies in our collective masses, but it never seems to have enough interest to answer it. Every homeless person is placed at risk of death , and unless that problem is soon resolved, wars will never stop, including a war of all wars.

Robyn's avatar
May 2Edited

Love your work, Caitlin. Keeping the bastards honest is such an imperative in this crazy world

martin's avatar

it is very hard to believe that keir starmer, those responsible at the police and the reporting press are not aware of what they are doing.

Feral Finster's avatar

They know perfectly well what they are doing.

To be fair, Starmer is trying to brownnose the Americans, since Israel is an issue near and dear to Master's heart, and Starmer wants to drag the United States into a more aggressive stance against Russia.

N. Obody's avatar

Nah: Starmer was persecuting "anti-semitism" YEARS before he was even PM candidate, it was also his talking point against Jeremy Corbyn in case you don't remember and how he got him booted (without even proper democracy). Starmer has been 100% Israeli asset since day zero.,

Feral Finster's avatar

Starmer knows what the Americans want.

If you see the relationship between a dog and its Master, you will understand the relationship of the US and the british. The dog may be a dog and it may come when called, but at the same time it is always plotting, conniving, trying to get Master to pay attention to it or fight the postman or something.

George Cornell's avatar

And he attends synagogue every week.

Davina's avatar

And his wife is...? The quiet voice in his ear every night, who in public looks like tbe shy little wife who doesn't want to be photographed ir talked about - of course she doesn't, she's been assigned a job and she that is front and centre for her, good little zionist.

Robyn's avatar

He needs to go then

Jo Waller's avatar

What absolute tripe. Starmer is big US oil's bitch in everything. The proxy war against Russia was started by the US, continues to be supported by the US and is being given the appearance of being dropped by the US because they want UK citizens to feel they have to up military spending and bravely battle Putin to the last Briton. What utter fools to do exactly what we're told by US Secretary of War Pete Hegseth as the US focuses on China via Iran.

Mary Wildfire's avatar

No no, not China! The US can't target China, they're too busy attacking Iran and Iraq and Venezuela and Cuba and maybe Colombia and Mexico and perhaps Canada and Denmark and, oh yes, Minneapolis and LA.

Jo Waller's avatar

Yes, yes, definitely China. That is why they (US based interests in oil etc) are targeting Iran, Iraq, Venezuela, Cuba, Colombia, Mexico, Canada, Denmark and any other allies of, major energy exporters to or countries situated on trade routes that are important to the economy of.. China. Enemy number one and what this whole thing is about. They also will attack Americans, no sweat, if it will help them slow China’s rise while they still have a chance to.

Mary Wildfire's avatar

I disagree. Yes, China is on its way to knocking off the US as top dog economically. But that doesn't mean China is a "threat" to the US, if by the US you mean the people. Why should we continue to be the hegemon? Why should we care if China "wins the AI race," one of the top excuses for shoving data centers everywhere? And, no it isn't all about China. People tend to believe everything has a single cause and argue about whether it's A, B or C--when much of the time the real cause is A, B, C and D. China is in their sights but attacking China is problematic. Meanwhile they need to have wars going at all times to fatten the MIC, so that motive applies to all the wars, as does Hegseth's sadistic ego trip and Trump's petulance as not being given the peace prize; Then there are the specific reasons, like in Cuba it's Mario Rubio and the fact that Cuba shows up the capitalist story with its medical brigades and even its defiant survival in the face of endless hostility from its close behemoth neighbor. With Canada and Greenland it's mostly about stealing resources. With Venezuela it's both about the threat of a good socialist example, and stealing oil. And perhaps. a feeling on the part of some of the powerful that overcoming China will just not be possible so the US needs to be satisfied with dominating the western hemisphere. With Iran, there's old history and the need to placate Israel--And Natanyahu's need to strike while he has a moronic puppet in the White House.

Jo Waller's avatar

Hiya, of course China is not a threat to the US people. It is only a threat to the primacy of Wall Street and Washington who care very much about keeping their hegemony. There is one cause- US based interests maintaining full spectrum global dominance- and China is already beating them in many areas. The suppression of China’s economy is of paramount importance, while the US interests still have a chance to slow it by attacking China’s allies and cutting her off from energy.

Davina's avatar

Why do these men keep on with oil? We don't need oil to keep the lights on, to keep us warm in winter cool in summer. We have renewable that can do all that, and have for a while now. The only ones worried about stealing other countries oil are the oil barons who want to keep making more and more money, especially as cars can no run with oil polluting the planet.

Who has the loudest voices in lobbying? I'd guess, right now, it's the oil lobbyists.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

Counterproductive strategy tho since the energy shortage in Taiwan (thanks directly to the war in Iran) has driven it closer to China. The repatriation of Taiwan into China is inevitable. Something like 95% of US GDP growth was due to AI investments, which rely on data centers, which rely on semiconductors, which Taiwan manufactures. The hegemonic strategy of the US is not going to work in the long run and the Chinese know it.

Jo Waller's avatar

Yes, there are many counterproductive elements, like Russia getting stronger. The reliance on Taiwan is the reason the US have attempted to set up TSMC in Arizona manufactoring semiconductors on US soil.

The desperate hegemonic strategy of the US may well succeed in bringing the world down into economic and environmental collapse. They have the climate crisis on their side, being in a relatively lucky latitude. The US is not playing fair but they are playing to be last man standing even if there’s nothing left.

JennyStokes's avatar

Jo is correct. The direct threat to the USA is China.

Michael Dursse's avatar

The direct threat to the US is the US government.

Just Sayn's avatar

That is the TRUTH few Americans will readily accept..The only way to drain the swamp is to eliminate the swamp entirely. States primacy and The Declaration of Independence.

Ken Taylor's avatar

For the most part, the Chinese want to stay in China and take care of Chinese business. Now, if only the American military/industrial/prison complex would emulate this in the US, peace might have a chance to breakout worldwide. What a novel idea!

JennyStokes's avatar

I am lost in this disgusting display of racism..............from the Western (EMPIRE) which is losing..

Evelyn Craig's avatar

China has threatened no one .

Landru's avatar

China is sleeping zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz the longer China sleeps the more power they lose. Allowing We in the u.s. to pirate their shipping is losing. I am worried the Chinese sleep so long we in the u.s. take that to mean, they want to be best friends at any cost which could prompt the use of nuclear weapons

Just Sayn's avatar

If by direct threat you mean militarily then you are very mistaken. If you mean economically and socially then China has already won and the US petro dollar hegemony is just flailing in its death throes

Morton Gordon's avatar

Except that it isn't, militarily. Economically, yes. So what is the US going to do, genocide China too?

Morton Gordon's avatar

I mean, China is the ultimate target of the Epstein Class, except that it spent its military wad already. 80% of Tomahawks, etc. depleted. Laundry fires in the aircraft carriers (the classic way the US did power projection). Ducks that don't float, and F-35 birds that don't fly.

Landru's avatar

Where China is situated, We in the u.s. would try to blockade shipping as we did Japan. China needs to wake up and protect their shipping now before we assume we can do anything we want to China. China sleepszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Feral Finster's avatar

The entire point of Charles' visit to the US was to plead with the American to fight Russia for them.

The uk political class goes into panic at the thought of the US losing interest in that war.

JennyStokes's avatar

These blood-soaked Royals should NOT be participating in politics that is Law.

They are supposed to be purely Ambassadors.

Cut their bloody heads off.

Landru's avatar

1789 comes to mind.

Michael Dursse's avatar

Actually the monarch calls the shots as far as policy.

JennyStokes's avatar

Sorry I disagree.

Jo Waller's avatar

Eye roll. You don't think that Charles might be a political puppet to give credence to the non-existent UK-US split?

JennyStokes's avatar

He is not by law to be used this way.

Feral Finster's avatar

Nobody said anything about a split, but his purpose was clear.

Unless your argument is that all contrary evidence is a headfake, in which case nothing will convince you otherwise.

Literally Mussolini's avatar

I'm not sure most people are aware of the long-standing animus the UK has toward Russia. The days of the British Empire are long over, but the stench of their colonial era fear of Russia oddly lingers.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

The UK has yet to realize that it is the bitch in the US-UK relationship.

Feral Finster's avatar

The british political class knows perfectly well.

British strategy since 1917 has been to get Americans to do their fighting for them.

At the same time, take away American power, and britain goes from America's Special Little Buddy to a flavour-challenged backwater with especially crappy weather, nominally ruled over by a dangerously inbred class of dunces who won't shut up about long past glories and also Male Buggery.

Landru's avatar

You know my friend I didn't really need that image . Besides, I am sure they would enjoy the buggery ha.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

I guess we'll see what goes down if Trump unilaterally exits NATO. I would be surprised if the recent 90 min call he had with Putin didn't touch on the subject. Our POTUS is a senile, gullible moron who is desperate for an off-ramp. And the Iranian FM did just meet with Moscow. I am convinced the only reason Moscow hasn't attacked arms and munitions factories in NATO countries yet is the US. If Trump leaves NATO, as he has threatened, then the soggy island will have to fight its own war. Thoughts?

Feral Finster's avatar

The US is not desperate for an offramp at all. Russia and China are timid and dithering.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

The US os 100% desperate for an off-ramp in regards to Iran. That was my point. Trump does not give a fuck about the Europeans.

Landru's avatar

Thank you, I refer to them as sleeping zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Landru's avatar

Putin was kissing Demented Don's ass like the rest of them. The Saudi Prince is in Demented Don to his neck.

Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

Aware or not, it's pur fascism.

Crixcyon's avatar

I looked it up in my list of 10 million things you never should do and criticizing Israel wasn't on the list. That is how things change, often for the better...through healthy criticism. Banning criticism is the act of a scared entity. Very afraid that people will come to know the truth.

Robyn's avatar

Yes, spot on and they are relying on us to be too scared to speak out

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Davina's avatar

But Semites are the people israel is killing, so they by their actions are THE antisemites. Israelis cannot be semites and their DNA has proved that, which is why they have banned israelis from testing of their DNA. How cowardly is that?

John Turcot's avatar

Between 20,000 to as many as 200,000 children killed by Israelis in Gaza while the world watched in disbelief. Thousands of bombs dropped on Palestinian children , bombs made in the rich countries that make profits from death, and continue to see the slaughter in silence, are a tribute to the species.

Are we really seeing this happening to all of us, to our spirits, to our species, to our souls?

There are no words that can justify my feelings… there just aren’t.

jamenta's avatar

I think we are in the midst of major world change, and very well could be on the brink of WW3. Violence is breaking out (predictably) everywhere as International Law has completely been thrown to the wayside by to many powerful countries.

Do we have souls? I would like to think we have, and this is just some kind of soul lesson for the world. But maybe we don't. Maybe none of it amounts to a hill of beans.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

Idk if we have souls, but we certainly possess feelings and ideas but it seems we all haven't learned to relate to them in an appropriate way that is not self-destructive yet. Life itself is tenacious. Even if we blow ourselves up with nukes, some humans will survive.

jamenta's avatar

I don't know why, the question of having a soul or not is important (for me) to find some kind of rationality in this madness called life. But that may just be me.

In any case, it will all happen soon enough, including our own mortality. This strange reality of beauty and the existence of love & hope, but also the genocide of 10s of thousands of Gazan children who did nothing to deserve their horrible deaths.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

Nah you're def not alone in wondering about the existence of souls. For me, if something presents as irrational in one scale of observation (at the individual or national level), I think about what it means at a higher scale (civilization or species). All this chaos we are living through as individuals might be an indispensable ingredient in the evolution of the larger system that we all comprise, but we don't get to see it at that scale anymore than a single white blood cell gets to see the immune system response as it attacks a pathogen.

The images of those poor children in Palestine are a part of me and you now, forever.

Davina's avatar

Unfortunately certain American evangelicals are desperate for a world devastating war to bring on Armageddon because, they have been told they are special and come Armageddon ^they^ will rise into heaven (I think their trying to force the end times, should send them all to hell.) And too many of these same evangelicals are too close to Drumpf, the blonde bimbo, for example, who thinks the louder she shouts and stomps around the more people will believe her. Personally, I think she's carried away by her self-importance. Drumpf doesn't believe a word she says, but she's useful at present, when she's not she'll be gone, just like the others.

Robyn's avatar

I think decent people the world over are in a state of shock in the realisation that our governments are complicit in their refusal to call out a genocide and a genocidal regime

I am ashamed. I am embarrassed. And I am heartbroken for all the innocent lives taken, the torture and the starvation …while my government and other ‘civilised’ western governments sit on their hands with their mouths shut

Honestly, it is enough to make me physically sick

I will never stop speaking out. I am an old woman. They can put me in jail.

I will never give up my humanity.

John Turcot's avatar

Your comments resonate. The thought that someone aiming a rifle at a child and pulling the trigger is beyond my ability to comprehend.

I too am an old person, but time seems not to have thought me enough about human nature. I think I need to realize that human nature is just like everything in nature, and that in the final analysis, we live according to the agenda of all living things. the survival of the fittest. Otherwise, why would we act with such lack of compassion?

But maybe it’s more than nature’s laws. When I was a teenager roaming the forests of Quebec, I occasionally shot squirrels and pinned their tails on my wall. That was human nature. I didn’t think for a second that the little creatures also had a family somewhere.. not a second..

Robyn's avatar

We are all flawed human beings, John and everyone’s world and worldview seems entirely normal to them

Despite that, I always believed the majority of us were just trying to live decent lives with good values

Getting towards the end of my life now, I feel that maybe the working class have always been blinkered, deliberately..

kept naieve to the ‘real world’ in order to keep the capitalist machine going..

Kept our expectations low and our aspirations very modest so that we, the masses, were easily managed

I am not a religious person, (being an ex-Catholic totally disenfranchised by the sexual abuse and ongoing cover up within the church)

But right now, I kind of wish I could believe in something because this is all just too cruel… and very depressing

I am fortunate to live amongst nature and animals. It is this that helps to keep me grounded.

I can only imagine what people living in ‘boxes’ the world over are suffering in regard to their mental outlook

I have never been able to kill a flea, metaphorically speaking, without guilt.

I have far more respect for the animal kingdom than for homo sapiens who continue to let each other down

Animals are far more loyal and their actions are not predicated by greed

John Turcot's avatar

I was placed in a boarding school (convent) from the beginning of grade 2! Until I ran away 3 times. After the third time in grade 5 the nuns convinced my parents that perhaps a convent wasn’t the place for a boy who just didn’t fit in.

When told that only Catholics went to heaven, reasoning that ‘Indians’ never heard of Catholics, my belief in the church was seriously compromised. As a result, my educational successes completely stopped as I drifted from school to school until my obligatory attendance was terminated at age 16.

The pattern repeated itself in the workplace as I drifted from job to job until the age of 27 when, defying all the laws of statistical beliefs, I found myself staring at the eyes of 36 grade 4 students in the Montreal Catholic school Commission hiding the fact that their home room teacher last passing grade was grade 6.

It was then that I realized that luck has more to do with one’s future than too much planning.

I don’t really know why I wrote the above but i did. Sorry.. In iretrospect,

I received a letter from one of those students 70 years later crediting me for his success in life with two engineering degrees and a practice in his own law firm. How ironic!

John Turcot's avatar

Sorry not 70 years later, but 50

John Turcot's avatar

Soory meant to write grade 2 not 21

Robyn's avatar
May 3Edited

Thank you for sharing that with me, John. I totally agree that luck (good or bad) plays a huge part in where we end up in Life.

But our own character probably plays an even bigger role and is the difference, in my opinion, between someone giving up or refusing to… repeating generational patterns of dysfunction or rejecting them…and retaining personal integrity where many others desert their own.

Your story about teaching is amazing but you were probably born to be a teacher.

It is so rewarding to hear from young people who you have helped along their path to success.

Like you, I was never a ‘qualified’ teacher. I came from a dysfunctional family with an alcoholic father and a dedicated but emotionally removed mother. We struggled as a family of 7 children but I had a love of reading which helped me to block out the limitations and the reality of our daily home life.

I left school at age 15 and worked for some years in mainly clerical positions before working for some years as a literacy tutor for secondary school students. Then in my own home based business - tutoring students with English as their second language, students with learning disabilities like dyslexia and other students who just ‘didn’t get’ how to read and just needed some explicit teaching, using phonics instruction.

I get so cranky, John when people want to demonise immigrants, as some of the kindest, most hard working and decent families I know, are new to Australia.

I was recently contacted by one of my past ESL students, a beautiful young man from Sri Lanka I tutored from Year 2- 7

He invited me to attend his Year 12 graduation… where he was presented as Dux of the Year.

Since then he has been accepted into Medicine at university.

So I think that we can both be proud that we helped to raise people up, John.

When knocking people down seems to be a blood sport these days.

John Turcot's avatar

What a day that must have been… 7 in your family … I was an only child, but my grandmother had 16 brothers and sisters… just can’t imagine…

On another note, the fact that Trump was elected for a second time has to be a sign that humans have literally sunk to a level that is unthinkable… a real travesty of infinite disorder. How we have avoided a nuclear war so far is beyond the beyond of credibility.

Robyn's avatar

You too, John. We have to hold on to the belief that we are not as much in the minority as it seems…

The squeakiest wheel gets the most oil.. as the saying goes

Hold on there.

Robyn's avatar
May 4Edited

I am again so sorry, John. The loss of your son is so very new and it is heartbreaking not to at least have been able to put him at rest. I do hope that happens soon because I don’t believe true grieving begins until you have been able to do that.

The shock is mind numbing and it is amazing that we can function at all during this time.

I would like to be able to say that grief lessens but after all these years, when I say good morning to a framed photograph of my beautiful girl each day, my eyes can still well up. I miss her so very much still. We do still share some lovely conversations together though, and I can hear what she would (is) saying back to me.

So in a way, she is still very much a part of me.

I don’t know why life has to be so painful, John.

I too, struggle with the concept of a loving, kind and interventionist God when there is so much pain and evil all around us.

What is the point of prayer if bad things are still allowed to happen?

Why do good, loving people die prematurely while evildoers prosper?

No parent should ever have to go through what we are, John. I feel so privileged that you chose me to converse with at such a sad, lonely and poignant time in your life… because loss and grief is experienced in a uniquely personal way to each of us. It can’t always be shared with even the people closest to us.

My younger daughter has mental health issues, stemming originally from her sister’s death when she herself was only 12. Then a school camp accident that killed two school friends and almost her, 9 months later. Then a teenage pregnancy, failed relationships, a marriage and another child, a divorce.

Throughout this time she struggled with alcohol addiction, which continues today. She has suffered immensely.. and as her mother, her pain has been mine too.

I love her very much and have tried to support her every way I can. Unfortunately she is a stubborn and independent person, not her own best friend, and it has been so difficult.

Unfortunately she has chosen to distance herself from the family and refuses to accept accountability or any responsibility to seek help.

Some of the ripple effects I spoke about earlier.

Everyday people with real problems but still enough love in their hearts for others.

That is us, John. We can be proud. We still have our humanity.

John Turcot's avatar

The fact that seeing her picture still brings tears to your eyes is not very soothing for my heart… In some ways, since my life is at its apogee, maybe the fact that it will be shorter than not may not be so bad after all.

I’m truly sorry if I sound as distraught as it can, but it has taught me yet another side to love, a side I did not know could hurt so much.

So sorry!

John Turcot's avatar

I’m truly sorry … really a wrong choice of words… of course your daughters story is soothing for those who value what the heart can feel… sometimes words fail to reveal what we feel.. thanks for one of the best exchanges one can experience.. I hope all the love you have missed from your relationship with your daughter will be that much greater one day.. who knows? As Leonard Cowen once sang’Nobody Knows’. Thanks for your presence, it was soothing…

John Turcot's avatar

Thanks so much for sharing your feelings about your younger daughter. Maybe losing her sister at such a young age caused her feelings about abandonment, and wonder about loss of life. That too must be so hard.

I had written a much longer response but my phone decided that it would erase my voice. I don’t think I have the wherewithal to rewrite them but let me just say how much I have appreciated our exchanges. I had no idea how the world of humanity could drift so far from its bases… maybe my perceptions of humanity were illusions of what they should be.. thank you so much for being there, on this planet at this time…

Robyn's avatar
May 4Edited

As a fellow bereaved parent, I am so sorry for your loss. I know the particular devastation that comes with the loss of a child. My beautiful first born 14 year old daughter, died when I was driving my vehicle many years ago now. I was hit by a police car in pursuit of another vehicle they believed was stolen by a group of young men. That vehicle and its driver were never apprehended. My life as I knew it then was over and the ripple effects of that tragedy continue to this day,

I also cannot comprehend the sheer depravity of someone who could look a child in the eyes and execute them. Or to harm a defenceless child in any way.

In my view, it demonstrates that the people capable of this are no longer human.

They have crossed over into something else so dark as to be unimaginable.

I hope there is a special place in Hell for those people,

John Turcot's avatar

I am

Also so sorry for you having lost a child under such horrific and incomprehensible circumstances. I simply cannot imagine your pain. It would indeed change life for anyone.. this is where I question god’s presence .

Our son is still lying in the coroner’s care. He died suddenly exactly two weeks ago. We were planning to build a small home right beside him. We loved each other as much as anyone could.. he was addicted to alcohol for at least 35 years, yet was never drunk. In the end, he was riding his bike without a helmet, fell on the ground and got up. Had a headache for a few days and suddenly stopped breathing.

He was loved by everyone . All the time. He was evicted from his home at least on 15 occasions, never being able to pay the rents he had agreed to pay. In a land as vast as Canada, where there exists enough place for everyone on Earth, Canada was not able to find a place where he could live in peace , a scourge which our species may never be able to cure.

While not knowing mmmuch in Economics, the condition seems to be like playing a. Monopoly game, and the game has been won.. only spare change remains, and my son never did have enough change to continue playing.

Robyn's avatar

From the day he burst onto the political scene, he made my skin crawl.

A woman learns to trust these warnings and I wasn’t incorrect.

We have to continue to speak out and live in hope,I guess.

What else can a 70 something year old do?

I will never stop caring about the underdogs in life. I can’t imagine being an only child, John although I might have liked to try it as a child. My parents had 7 children, 23 grandchildren and 19 great-grandchildren when they died.

I have had 4 children (one deceased) 2 grandchildren and recently even a first great grandchild.

I don’t like my chances of catching up to my parents’ little dynasty.

I worry about their future and that of all younger generations across the world.

No, I could never have imagined what we are living through now,

John Turcot's avatar

Growing up in a one child family is not the healthiest condition for being as social as one needs to be. When there is no competition for anything, expectations are that all will be as it exists within the home, and of course, the expectations fall one by one, sometimes hurt fully so.

We had 3 children, one died very recently. The pain of loss is indescribable, and the price that most pay when living longer than most. I would give anything, all of these extra years, if I could give them to our oldest son.

Since the love I felt for him is so intense, I do not understand how the world can just sit back and watch children being killed in silence..

Robyn's avatar

No apology necessary, John. You are grieving the loss of a part of yourself, your much loved son. It is me who should be sorry if i have added to your despair..

Whilst I still grieve my child many years later, I also smile remembering her sometimes..

I remember her funny way of expressing get awe with a popular phrase in the 80’s.. ‘Far Out!’

That phrase was tendered in a different tenor when she was annoyed or when she hurt herself..

It was indeed a very versatile two words.

I still smile when I think about her saying she hoped our cat hadn’t done ‘a borrie’ when we discovered the cat had been accidentally locked in our garage all day. J had to look that one up and discovered that a Mr Borrie played a part in the sewage plans for Melbourne, where we lived at the time.

I am proud of who my child was: a kind, caring and gentle person who loved to dance and whose passion was animal welfare.

She came home from school SO pissed off that her classmates had voted against fund raising for her Save the Koala initiative.

She loved her friends, her family and just Life in general.

Although her life was taken suddenly and unnaturally at the age of 14, I comfort myself that she loved and was genuinely loved.

She made my life and the world a better place for having been in it.

I have my doubts about religion, John but I have to believe that there is somewhere we go to that is much kinder than the horrible world we live in.

I hope that you and I are reunited with our children someday.

In the meantime, hold on to your special memories of your boy, who I am sure also knew how much he was loved.

The power of love transcends all human evil deeds and events like the ones we are seeing now

We KNOW what true and pure love is and for that, we should I think, be grateful

There are some, it seems, who are incapable of understanding it and they operate on an entirely different set of imperatives

Love wins, John and it is worth the pain of it.

Love can never be taken away, even by death.

John Turcot's avatar

Teaching does bring many rewards… sometimes, as you know, the curriculum doesn’t fit your belief systems which can bring teaching a harder task. As an elementary teacher, religious lessons had to be given every day, a task which was as ironical as it got for me…

I lived at the time the flower generation bloomed. It was a quasi magical time, with people actually sending that change was in the air. Eventually, the flower era wilted, then died, but for a few brief years, the aromas flourished…. Woodstock etc.

Amazing how the owners of the planet now own all of us. At one time young people had a chance, no more. Moreover, the lessons of total control coming from Israeli lobbies worldwide would have been unimaginable in our day…

Robyn's avatar

It is hard to think back on on our youth and not grieve.. for the imperfect but somehow more predictability and simplicity of life then

I blame industrialisation.. haha

No, I’m not quite that old, but technology maybe.

Why can’t we just go back to good old ‘book learning’ John?

In some ways, being informed using the internet has been liberating but it is also disheartening

John Turcot's avatar

Not only disheartening, but when the difference between the real thing and AI enhancement is hard to distinguish… I pity future generations, if future generations there will be?

Feral Finster's avatar

This is who humans are

John Turcot's avatar

I’m not sure what humans are. A few people have advised me to grow- up during my life but they never suggested the type of grown- up I should consider imitating, so I’m sorta caught in between stages…

Charles Held's avatar

When America's Holocaust Museum was built, the word "intifada" was used in the Arabic translation of the Warsaw Ghetto UPRISING exhibit. BTW that Uprising was planned and led by the ANTI-Zionist Jewish Labor Bund.

Sara2's avatar

Please don’t makeup info to fit your statement above which is not accurate. We have enough misinformation, we don’t need more, especially painful to read when you’re directing this to a majority of people that don’t know the history. The uprising was led by a majority of Zionists, from Socialists to religious. There was 1 Bundist, who was not the primary leader or planner, that was Mordechai Anilevitz, a Socialist Zionist from Hashomer Hatzair.

Charles Held's avatar

Anyone who omits Bundists Marek Edelman, who co-founded the Jewish Combat Organization (ŻOB), and Maurycy Orzech, publisher of the Bund newspaper Forverts, from a discussion of the Uprising is not to be taken seriously.

Sara2's avatar

Your comment above was "...Uprising was planned and led by the ANTI Zionist Jewish Labor Bund."

It is you that left out historical facts, not I. I mentioned there was a Bundist, you gave the impression it was the Bund that planned and led it! Which is false.

History is messy, it it is not black and white, as is Democracy, and so was/is Zionism. This messiness was clear in the uprising, as the leadership, planning and revolt itself comprised hundreds of people from all different ideologies.

"The uprising was not exclusively Zionist, but rather a united coalition of left-wing Zionists (Dror), left wing Socialists (Hashomer Hatzair, and Warsaw Ghetto leader Mordecai Anilevitz), right-wing Zionists(Akiva - who were religious), [extreme right wing Zionists (Betar, Jabotinsky)], and Socialist anti-Zionists (Bund) who fought together against Nazi extermination."

"Leadership & Structure: Mordecai Anielewicz was appointed as the main commander of the organization" (Socialist Zionist)

The Jewish Combat Organization (ŻOB) was formed on July 28, 1942, in the Warsaw Ghetto by members of Zionist youth movements—specifically Hashomer Hatzair, Habonim Dror, and Akiva—along with the socialist Bund. Key founders and leaders included Mordecai Anielewicz (commander), Yitzhak (Antek) Zuckerman, Zivia Lubetkin, and Josef Kaplan, Marek Edelman (deputy commander).

Organizations Merged to Form the ZOB:

The ZOB was formed to unify Jewish resistance, comprising several political and youth organizations, mainly:

Hashomer Hatzair

Dror (He-Halutz branch)

Akiva

The Bund

Poale Zion

The organization was created to fight against the deportations to extermination camps and was central to the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

The majority above were Zionists.

If anyone is interested:

https://academic.oup.com/hgs/article/31/1/24/3755317

Sara2's avatar

Your comment above was "...Uprising was planned and led by the ANTI Zionist Jewish Labor Bund."

It is you that left out historical facts, not I. I mentioned there was a Bundist, you gave the impression it was the Bund that planned and led it! Which is false.

History is messy, it it is not black and white, as is Democracy, and so was/is Zionism. This messiness was clear in the uprising, as the leadership, planning and revolt itself comprised hundreds of people from all different ideologies.

"The uprising was not exclusively Zionist, but rather a united coalition of left-wing Zionists (Dror), left wing Socialists (Hashomer Hatzair, and Warsaw Ghetto leader Mordecai Anilevitz), right-wing Zionists(Akiva - who were religious), [extreme right wing Zionists (Betar, Jabotinsky)], and Socialist anti-Zionists (Bund) who fought together against Nazi extermination."

"Leadership & Structure: Mordecai Anielewicz was appointed as the main commander of the organization" (Socialist Zionist)

The Jewish Combat Organization (ŻOB) was formed on July 28, 1942, in the Warsaw Ghetto by members of Zionist youth movements—specifically Hashomer Hatzair, Habonim Dror, and Akiva—along with the socialist Bund. Key founders and leaders included Mordecai Anielewicz (commander), Yitzhak (Antek) Zuckerman, Zivia Lubetkin, and Josef Kaplan, Marek Edelman (deputy commander).

Organizations Merged to Form the ZOB:

The ZOB was formed to unify Jewish resistance, comprising several political and youth organizations, mainly:

Hashomer Hatzair

Dror (He-Halutz branch)

Akiva

The Bund

Poale Zion

The organization was created to fight against the deportations to extermination camps and was central to the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

The majority above were Zionists.

If anyone is interested:

https://academic.oup.com/hgs/article/31/1/24/3755317

Charles Held's avatar

OK so stalking over on the totally unrelated Epstein thread, and a double-posted dissertation here.

How about we listen to the woman who just literally wrote the book on the Bund?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hixK06EykM

Sara2's avatar

You have an interesting definition of stalking, because all I'm doing is responding to your posts. But rest assured my interest here is only to inform that nothing takes the place of reading in depth. It does make for good sound bites as we see all over the internet.

I'm sorry, my understanding of history doesn't come from Molly Crabapple, a Fashion Institute Graduate, and author of a few books, over the sources I provided above and below:

Yad Ve'Shem - The premier Holocaust Museum and archives in Israel

Dr. Havi Dreifuss Professor of history at Tel Aviv University and head of the Center for Holocaust Studies in Poland (link above).

In Fire and Snow by Putuermilch - a first hand account

Fabrics of Resistance: The Contributions of Female Jewish Couriers in the Second World War

As for the 2 similar posts- I apologize- I didn't think the first one went.

Susan T's avatar

It would be Soooo easy to stop the "antisemitism" that has been happening lately. Stop murdering Palestinians and Lebanese people. Stop the invasion of Iran.

Mary Wildfire's avatar

The more they push this transparently false narrative, the more they criminalize opposition to Israel's endless crimes, the more REAL anti-Jewish sentiment they stir up. This is not as yet a serious threat to Jewish people around the world, but if it gets to be--they don't care, this has never been about protecting Jews, it's always been about obedience to Israel and the US.

Feral Finster's avatar

This is entirely intentional. Zionists need antisemitism. Without antisemitism (real, imaginary or manufactured), Israel no longer can demand double standards or special pleading, Israel's entire justification for its existence disappears.

Davina's avatar

Israel is a lie.

Landru's avatar

Soon people will ask What was israel : )

ennui_mcgee's avatar

Thank you. This is what I've been saying for a long time. This new shitshow with Iran is going to shrink or possibly collapse the global economy and who oh who, I wonder, is going to get the blame for it? Of course Trump's name will be on it but so will Israel's, except people are going to say the Jews.

Mary Wildfire's avatar

Maybe. They mostly aren't so far. I hope they say instead "the Zionists"--note that most US Zionists are not Jews but "Christians" who believe in the whole Armageddon/Rapture/Second Coming story--a deeply selfish and unChristian choice that lets them be the good guys while committing crimes, go to Heaven without dying, and brush their hands of the crises facing this Earth because "it's all gonna burn up anyway, God has a better world for us."

Davina's avatar

I want to be around to see their shock if everyone "but them" is lifed up and they have to live with the destruction of the planet they craved for everyone else.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

You know who else is going to get blamed, and already are? Boomers. Yes, when the rationing hits, it's your Jewish friends, and your grandmother who will most likely be first to be thrown under the bus.

Landru's avatar

I didn't find a way to stop this chaos and madness. I deserve to be thrown under a slow moving bus.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

That would be doing the work of TPTB, who wants to distract the public with non-meaningful acts that don't challenge their power. Don't help them. Keep your eyes on the real culprits.

Robyn's avatar

Why your grandmother? I’m a grandmother so I have a vested interest in knowing..

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Human societies have been known to look for scapegoats, especially when times are tough. If one looks ahead at some predicted outcomes in the not too distant future, we already have clear, well known scapegoats right now, such as people of color, immigrants, the poor, welfare recipients, and the like.

However, one can see those two additional groups are likely to be fitted into that role, and I was just giving a heads-ups for those who might care to be prepared to stop that from happening.

These are perilous times, and TOTB is eager to toss out as many of the rest of humanity as the can. We do not need to be helping them do that.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

I can live with that

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Many of us cannot, or will not. It is of no use to trade one group of the common people for another as scapegoats, when the true enemy is the elite psychopaths in control.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

The US boomers had their cake. I'm not going to cry if they don't also get to eat it. You're free to waste your tears on that.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

You illustrate my point exactly.

Vin LoPresti's avatar

Just think of it this way: They will tell you that Aaron Bushnell was an antisemite because he chose to kill himself in protest of genocide. Couldn't be more effed-up than that.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

When I first learned that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza and that the whole western world was supporting and defending Israel, my head nearly exploded. This is so wrong. And, frankly, my head continues to explode.

I have to wonder how many supported Nazi Germany in the same way when it was committing genocide, and I know a lot of corporations were enabling and profiting from it.

Feral Finster's avatar

Of course. And it won't end there, just that antisemitism (real, manufactured or imaginary) is a low-status belief and consequently nobody wants to be seen as being on the side of the antisemites.

It makes a perfect wedge case to end free speech everywhere. Sort of like how Alex Jones was used as the poster child for why we NEED censorship, since Jones is a loon that nobody of influence and authority wants to be seen supporting.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

Ironically, wasn't it Alex Jones who cried day and night about pedophiles running the government?

Feral Finster's avatar

Yes. The funny thing is that QAnon was also directionally accurate, just that the details were all wrong and Trump was not the savior that they imagined him as.

Quite the opposite.

Ron Stockton's avatar

Keir Starmer, like most western political leaders, and the MSM in the western world, are liars. They know what they are saying is untrue, they say it anyway, and they say it in the hope people will believe them and, they do it for their own gain. Why is this not patently obvious to everyone?

jamenta's avatar

We see the same patent lying here in the states with both political parties: Democrats & Republicans. But Americans only get two choices at the voting booth, and both choices are for two parties that have no moral integrity left, i.e. both supported the Genocide of GAZA, both do their best to make sure Americans do not live with Universal Healthcare (unlike every other advanced Industrial Nation in the world), both have supported increased military budgets for decades, both have made permanent tax breaks for the super-rich while cutting assistance programs to the most vulnerable Americans.

The list goes on and on. Ordinary Americans simply no longer have a choice who really rules them, since the US electoral system is a rigged con game - rigged by the super wealthy. The lesser of two evils, ends up being evil as well. Democracy has become a pretend democracy. Mainstream News Media has become pretend news. The country is surfeit with lies and deception: from A.I. to being totally lied to regarding US bases being wiped out, and US war casualties abroad.

Ron Stockton's avatar

"The lesser of two evils, ends up being evil as well." I have been preaching that here in Canada as well, but to no avail. We have third choice in Canada, the New Democratic Party (NDP) which is ostensibly "social democratic". They have never won federally and provincially they have been difficult to differentiate from the two right-wing, mainstream parties (Liberals and, by many different names, Conservatives). Federally, when the Liberals have been in power with a minority government, the NDP have pushed through some reform (universal, publicly-funded medicare since the 1960s, and since last year, a very limited means-tested pharmacare and dental program for seniors and children) and they've generally "opposed" America's wars (except Afghanistan) - by "opposed" I mean we didn't send troops but our corporations still provide weapons components. As noted, however, when they form government provincially it's difficult to tell them from the other parties. The new NDP leader and executive proclaim themselves democratic socialists, so maybe Canadians have a choice and maybe we don't.

As for the UK, it is really looking as if it will be officially fascist before the USA is. Then, I guess, it will be Australia with Canada and the rest of Europe bringing up the rear.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

To be fair, the US has been fascist to its people of color for a long time. People are worried about fascism now only because it's encroaching on white America.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

This is essentially why I don't believe anything but an implosion will save us. Let the house of cards fall so we can rebuild it, put term limits AND age limits on all the cocksuckers in Congress and the SCOTUS, ban lobbying, arrest AIPAC members, deport dual citizens, put in universal healthcare, abolish all student debt, make higher education free, abolish the CIA and NSA, undo all presidential pardons, criminalize gerrymandering, and liberate the Palestinians.

Ron Stockton's avatar

I'd say undo the Presidency. It is too much like a monarchy. Go to an elected parliamentary system, preferably no rich people (if there are any left) can run for office or vote.

Susan T's avatar

I agree with you Ron Stockton, except for the part where they hope people will believe them. I don't think they care if people believe them as long as they keep quiet.

Feral Finster's avatar

Because once you start down that road, you have to start making choices. If the society and system that we live under does so much evil, how much will I compromise with it?

These choices can have very real personal and professional consequences. Try not paying taxes and see what happens. "Bartelby the Scrivener" it ain't.

Even if you do compromise, you are left with a guilty conscience.

By contrast, if you go along with the crowd, you can avoid those tough choices and face no consequences, and your conscience stays relatively untroubled, for the time being at least. Even in the worst case, you can say to yourself that you did what every other Good German did under the circumstances.

Ron Stockton's avatar

I thought about that after I asked the question and pushed send. It is patently obvious, so why are so many people staying with those parties and supporting them? Surely they are not all Nazi or Zionist supporters or racists.

Mary Wildfire's avatar

It's like jamenta says above. It's a rigged game where it's your fault the horrible people got in power if you voted for Tweedledee, your fault if instead you voted for Tweedledum which also commits crimes and does nothing for the people, and your fault if you refused to vote, thus allowing Tweedledee to win.

Ron Stockton's avatar

That is certainly the game they've played on us. It sounds as if a revolution would be in order. If only!

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

I support "Globalize the Intifada", and Iran. Cancel the State of Israel.

Jo Waller's avatar

Israel is a battering ram for US based interests as well as a proxy for the creation of protest laws that protect US based interests.

Sekhmetnakt's avatar

And Jewish.... STILL NOT A FUCKING RACE! Starmer is a fascist terrorist loving idiot

Eat me's avatar

idf cowards again struck a cemetery (like many times before in Gaza) in S. Lebanon and murdered 6 mourners, who were mourning their loved ones just recently murdered by the idf pigs) The dead and their families know no peace from the issrhelli fascist nazis. The idf swine again murdered more unarmed Palestinians in Gaza. A daily occurrence. Cease fire? Yeah, right. The isshehrilli fascists again broke international rules of law and assaulted/ kidnapped members of the international flotilla in Greece-Greece now seemingly an isrhellii puppet poodle state. Western political corrupt cunts now want to criminalize any and all legit criticism of the vile state. Dear Lord but the overtly evil fascist cunts are winning