Chris Hedges put it Best: Nations have a 'mystique' to them which motivates people to fight, serve, etc under their flag. However, when Crimes like Ethnic Cleansing & Genocide are committed, that Mystique evaporates rapidly. 'Israel' has all but destroyed all that via broadcasting LIVE to the whole world their various Crimes in Gaza & beyond Thus, it is only a matter of time till they cease to exist entirely courtesy of the loss of said 'mystique.'
or all this broadcast will only show the decay / racism of so-called 'international community' - I am skeptical that this mystique will evaporate rapidly ... elections in US / UK will show
The normalization aspect: when Obama apologized for strafing MSF's Kunduz Trauma Center with 70 3cm DU slugs/ sec, from 3 rotary cannons for hours. US & G20 media, belatedly, grudgingly, sorta covered it, eventually. NOW, good luck FINDING any of this via meta-search. Google's SEOd murdered Gaza Journalists down it's memory hole. A number of us TRIED to prove ourselves wrong about the 1st hospital JDAM hits & watching Israel simply make shit up, post it, take it down, Google disappear it, make up different shit, ALL night. Then, thousands of trolls jumped on. No US media coverage, until Likud decided the consensus lie. Honestly, when we'd post this pattern, years back, we'd be yelled at for conspiracy theory or antisemitism (though ~80% of the journalists doing this research, we're proud Jews?) To us in the States: if you substitute Black or Native genocide; Canary Mission progroms against politicians, lawyers, social service/ labor activists, scholars & journalists. Use of COVID to upwardly redistribute homes, 'retirement' savings & indenture labor, unleash Israeli trained spooks & MAGA Nazi cops... It's blatantly normalizing our subjugation? We're ALL Palestinians, centuries BEFORE Israel!
Absolutely lovely to hear the two of you giggling and talking. Great talk, too, and I usually can't even follow the podcast format. You did indeed find your words. Thanks for reminding me about Maggie Simpson and her driver's wheel, too! I'd totally forgotten that!
I enjoyed that, thanks! But, how dare a Gen X and a Millennial try to take credit for destroying the world, when clearly that rests squarly on the shoulders of us Boomers. Just look around. 🤷♂️💰💲
DC hides all their CRIMINAL DEPRAVITY inside 1000 page “Bills” no one gets time to comb through. Item by Item is the ONLY way to get back the democracy STOLEN by ZERO DISSENT TOLERATED, CorporateFascist InsiderTrader WEALTH $$upremacy’s TOTALITARIANS
It's so lovely to hear your voices together like this! (I'm an American writer who married a British writer under similar circumstances, so maybe we ought to start up a similar podcast? Nah! Who'd want to listen to us when there are you two online!!) I agree with you about how boring and horrible the game of Monopoly is and how it would be lovely to get rid of the greed and non-cooperativeness of capitalism. It truly is feeding imperialism, war, and genocide and so it must stop. Today. Thanks again for all your great posts and for helping those of us who are trying to keep healthy and sane in this mad world to do just that. We've all got to keep healthy and sane enough to help others along in their transformations as well. Power to the people! #FreeAssange #FreePalestine
LOL!!! Yeah, that's the best description of it--monotony. (If you ever played it with my older sister as the banker and how she ALWAYS had to have Broadway and Park Place, then you would have hated it on even more levels!)
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YEP❗️ STILL ZioFascist CONTROLLED & CENSORED. So much for Musk’s Free Speech Commitment. Now he owns Rumble / Locals too. Search “Contact Rumble” and look at the logos at the bottom of the page
Rumbe is a cluster fuck of stupid...few i like there but ..their comment section is fascist as fuck...or more like the gang mob mentality..get "three strikes" by being pilled on by a crew of useful idiots and you post is deleted or hidden no chance get some likes to bring up the numbers ...i complained to management and got crickets as is typical of all these fucking social "media" giants then they do the double speak of "free speech"
Caitlin and Tim help me keep afloat in this sea of crap that some call our normal world. Loved the podcast and hope for more. There is life without MSM like the BBC but be careful, once you start being open minded you ain’t ever going back.
I greatly looked forward to this podcast and liked it, of course. However, I became distressed during the talk by the sheer number of times you said these filler words: "like," "you know," "yeah, right," and found it so distracting, I decided to listen again and count these grammatical fidgets. Combining them, I quit counting at fifty. Caitlin, you said, "yeah" and "you know" more than Tim who uses "like" in the same way as do California teenage girls. [One time when a student was about to give a talk in front of a class without notes, just before she spoke, I told her she could not at any time in her talk say "like" or "you know." She was unable to speak.] I might add, "fuck" never enhances a point; it distracts and lessens it. If you say a sentence with it, then without it, you will see what I mean. I've seen this speaking mishap happen to other great journalists, Sy Hersh and Patrick Lawrence, for two. They can write beautifully, but should just write, not do an off-the-cuff interview or discussion. You know by now, Caitlin, what a fan I am of your incredible work. Your writing hits me, as hard as anyone I've ever read. It's stunning, like getting a kick in the stomach sometimes.
If you and Tim enjoy doing podcasts, please clean up your language so that you sound as brilliant as your readers know you are.
I don’t know what "reflection of your own stuff" can possibly mean. Maybe you're used to talking that way yourself or hearing it so much you just don't notice it. If you want to hear another reporter in the same journalistic voice as Caitlin, Glenn Greenwald is on his Rumble show on week days, talks for at least an hour and never uses those grammatical fillers.
I love Glenn Greenwald, & if he doesn't fill in with "yeah," "like," "you know," he fills with "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand" in that horrible US nasal iiiiiiiiiiiiiind.
I love Caitlin's use of "fuck" when it's just the appropriate word. Shock, after long, elegant prose. Not filler.
It's natural to need to slow down your speech to be able to reflect and see what needs to be said at any given moment, and there's nothing most Americans hate more than an awkward silence.
If you could publish a histogram and provide the link it'd be very helpful. Then we could report their malfeasance to the blog's author.
Of course I'm jesting here. Your "... and liked it, of course. However, I became distressed ..." sounds so fake. You didn't like it - so fucking say so!
Quite the contrary. I have loved and agreed with everything Caitlin has ever written. Her work is one of the highlights of my search for truth in reporting.
Why don't you cease jumping to conclusions. In all of "her work," writing and/or speaking, Caitlin has the highest standard of research any journalist could have. Please don't presume to speak my mind for me; I can do that for myself.
"writing and/or speaking which means PODCAST. I've never "wormed" in my life. Please stop attributing to me thoughts that come from you. I'm now through with this conversation and am signing off. Peace. Rob
I think Caitlin and Tim said this well. -- when talking about killing children -- . "Look at what we are capable of"... It's the 'WE' that really hits home......... which is what Gandhi said when he suggested : "Be the change you want to see in the world".
Chris Hedges put it Best: Nations have a 'mystique' to them which motivates people to fight, serve, etc under their flag. However, when Crimes like Ethnic Cleansing & Genocide are committed, that Mystique evaporates rapidly. 'Israel' has all but destroyed all that via broadcasting LIVE to the whole world their various Crimes in Gaza & beyond Thus, it is only a matter of time till they cease to exist entirely courtesy of the loss of said 'mystique.'
They seem proud of murdering like a serial killer that has to keep pictures of their crimes to revisit the memory of them...
or all this broadcast will only show the decay / racism of so-called 'international community' - I am skeptical that this mystique will evaporate rapidly ... elections in US / UK will show
(For those interested)
If you wish to read (& listen!) to more of My commentary, here is my Main Stack:
https://thefallofthewest.substack.com
Thank You Kindly to everyone!
Still waiting for that time when Isreael ceases to exist . . . But I'm not holding my breath.
The primary target of Netanyahu is not Hamas.
Netanyahu's primary target is the people of Palestine, their land and the offshore gas fields.
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Oct 7th, Izrael LIHOP
so as to create bloodlust and harness it into an act of ethnic cleansing.
You guys are awesome to read and hear . It's cool to put a voice to that great writing Caitlin. Hope to hear more podcasts soon....
The normalization aspect: when Obama apologized for strafing MSF's Kunduz Trauma Center with 70 3cm DU slugs/ sec, from 3 rotary cannons for hours. US & G20 media, belatedly, grudgingly, sorta covered it, eventually. NOW, good luck FINDING any of this via meta-search. Google's SEOd murdered Gaza Journalists down it's memory hole. A number of us TRIED to prove ourselves wrong about the 1st hospital JDAM hits & watching Israel simply make shit up, post it, take it down, Google disappear it, make up different shit, ALL night. Then, thousands of trolls jumped on. No US media coverage, until Likud decided the consensus lie. Honestly, when we'd post this pattern, years back, we'd be yelled at for conspiracy theory or antisemitism (though ~80% of the journalists doing this research, we're proud Jews?) To us in the States: if you substitute Black or Native genocide; Canary Mission progroms against politicians, lawyers, social service/ labor activists, scholars & journalists. Use of COVID to upwardly redistribute homes, 'retirement' savings & indenture labor, unleash Israeli trained spooks & MAGA Nazi cops... It's blatantly normalizing our subjugation? We're ALL Palestinians, centuries BEFORE Israel!
Spot on..its been a long stealthy operation to return the world to fudal lords and slave pesants
Absolutely lovely to hear the two of you giggling and talking. Great talk, too, and I usually can't even follow the podcast format. You did indeed find your words. Thanks for reminding me about Maggie Simpson and her driver's wheel, too! I'd totally forgotten that!
Time for Australia, and EVery other nation being EXTORTED by DCs “Rules-Based-Order” to join BRICS
They can't the USrAel has infiltrated all their governments to make them lap dogs to imperialsm of the west with its control center in Israel
I enjoyed that, thanks! But, how dare a Gen X and a Millennial try to take credit for destroying the world, when clearly that rests squarly on the shoulders of us Boomers. Just look around. 🤷♂️💰💲
We didn't know that the world would spiral down as we ignored the Zionist monsters in a Trojan horse taking over western governments
DC hides all their CRIMINAL DEPRAVITY inside 1000 page “Bills” no one gets time to comb through. Item by Item is the ONLY way to get back the democracy STOLEN by ZERO DISSENT TOLERATED, CorporateFascist InsiderTrader WEALTH $$upremacy’s TOTALITARIANS
Caitlin: "It's my name, but it's really both of us, isn't it?" - the podcast really underscored it.
So commenters here complimenting Caitlin should switch to Caitlin/Tim. Maybe a catchy shortcut like TimCait or something.
Cait-Tim? (Sounds sort of like Caitlin.)
Anything, but it should be easy to type ;-)
It's so lovely to hear your voices together like this! (I'm an American writer who married a British writer under similar circumstances, so maybe we ought to start up a similar podcast? Nah! Who'd want to listen to us when there are you two online!!) I agree with you about how boring and horrible the game of Monopoly is and how it would be lovely to get rid of the greed and non-cooperativeness of capitalism. It truly is feeding imperialism, war, and genocide and so it must stop. Today. Thanks again for all your great posts and for helping those of us who are trying to keep healthy and sane in this mad world to do just that. We've all got to keep healthy and sane enough to help others along in their transformations as well. Power to the people! #FreeAssange #FreePalestine
Monopoly? Boring & horrible? Dern right. I hated it when I was a kid & called it "Monotony."
LOL!!! Yeah, that's the best description of it--monotony. (If you ever played it with my older sister as the banker and how she ALWAYS had to have Broadway and Park Place, then you would have hated it on even more levels!)
Great discussion. Thank you.
Questions solicited only on twittX excludes everyone who got Life Banned from twitter for opposing the Israel Lobby’s /ZioFascist’s 2014 Palestine Massacre in response to the films, Gaza Fights For Freedom and Killing Gaza
I'm one of them that got banned and muskatear didn't fix shit. His "free speech" is only for him and the rich fucks he runs with.
YEP❗️ STILL ZioFascist CONTROLLED & CENSORED. So much for Musk’s Free Speech Commitment. Now he owns Rumble / Locals too. Search “Contact Rumble” and look at the logos at the bottom of the page
Rumbe is a cluster fuck of stupid...few i like there but ..their comment section is fascist as fuck...or more like the gang mob mentality..get "three strikes" by being pilled on by a crew of useful idiots and you post is deleted or hidden no chance get some likes to bring up the numbers ...i complained to management and got crickets as is typical of all these fucking social "media" giants then they do the double speak of "free speech"
WHAT??/ oh crap!!!
US politics - a battle to the end ... between war grifters.
Caitlin and Tim help me keep afloat in this sea of crap that some call our normal world. Loved the podcast and hope for more. There is life without MSM like the BBC but be careful, once you start being open minded you ain’t ever going back.
Dear Caitlin and Tim,
I greatly looked forward to this podcast and liked it, of course. However, I became distressed during the talk by the sheer number of times you said these filler words: "like," "you know," "yeah, right," and found it so distracting, I decided to listen again and count these grammatical fidgets. Combining them, I quit counting at fifty. Caitlin, you said, "yeah" and "you know" more than Tim who uses "like" in the same way as do California teenage girls. [One time when a student was about to give a talk in front of a class without notes, just before she spoke, I told her she could not at any time in her talk say "like" or "you know." She was unable to speak.] I might add, "fuck" never enhances a point; it distracts and lessens it. If you say a sentence with it, then without it, you will see what I mean. I've seen this speaking mishap happen to other great journalists, Sy Hersh and Patrick Lawrence, for two. They can write beautifully, but should just write, not do an off-the-cuff interview or discussion. You know by now, Caitlin, what a fan I am of your incredible work. Your writing hits me, as hard as anyone I've ever read. It's stunning, like getting a kick in the stomach sometimes.
If you and Tim enjoy doing podcasts, please clean up your language so that you sound as brilliant as your readers know you are.
I didn't notice any of this at all. It's just a reflection of your own stuff, dude.
I don’t know what "reflection of your own stuff" can possibly mean. Maybe you're used to talking that way yourself or hearing it so much you just don't notice it. If you want to hear another reporter in the same journalistic voice as Caitlin, Glenn Greenwald is on his Rumble show on week days, talks for at least an hour and never uses those grammatical fillers.
I love Glenn Greenwald, & if he doesn't fill in with "yeah," "like," "you know," he fills with "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand" in that horrible US nasal iiiiiiiiiiiiiind.
I love Caitlin's use of "fuck" when it's just the appropriate word. Shock, after long, elegant prose. Not filler.
It's natural to need to slow down your speech to be able to reflect and see what needs to be said at any given moment, and there's nothing most Americans hate more than an awkward silence.
If you could publish a histogram and provide the link it'd be very helpful. Then we could report their malfeasance to the blog's author.
Of course I'm jesting here. Your "... and liked it, of course. However, I became distressed ..." sounds so fake. You didn't like it - so fucking say so!
Quite the contrary. I have loved and agreed with everything Caitlin has ever written. Her work is one of the highlights of my search for truth in reporting.
"Her work", but not the podcast. Even if you qualified it as if you did.
Why don't you cease jumping to conclusions. In all of "her work," writing and/or speaking, Caitlin has the highest standard of research any journalist could have. Please don't presume to speak my mind for me; I can do that for myself.
"writing and/or speaking" - but not the podcast. Why don't you quit worming? I'm not making anything up - I'm quoting you.
"writing and/or speaking which means PODCAST. I've never "wormed" in my life. Please stop attributing to me thoughts that come from you. I'm now through with this conversation and am signing off. Peace. Rob
Each generation behind us has been trained to be more stoopid than the previous generation.
Ideocracy the documentary
I think Caitlin and Tim said this well. -- when talking about killing children -- . "Look at what we are capable of"... It's the 'WE' that really hits home......... which is what Gandhi said when he suggested : "Be the change you want to see in the world".