In the spirit of "triangulating" information like the empire stooges, I think we're definitely arriving at a critical juncture where the relationship between Five Eyes members needs to be understood in the broader context of the Anglo-American slime mold and its intelligence octopus. It's not just the US, or the CIA, or FBI. If we consider the 2003 WMD "dodgy dossier" that sparked the Iraq war propaganda campaign and then fast-forward to the 2016 ''dirty dossier,'' we discover a great irony. In both cases, the “dossiers” which set an entire chain of events into motion and fundamentally altered the course of American politics, Britain's MI6 was at the center of planning the operations. Christopher Steele, who set the 2016 Russiagate operation into motion was a protege of none other than... Sir Richard Dearlove, then MI6 director who presided over the 10 Downing Street WMD dodgy ''intelligence'' dossier.
It's the same small grouping.
While the US military has served as the muscle for imperial wars, I think people often fail to distinguish the brains from the brawn. British intelligence tends to play a catalytic role in many of the most pivotal US foreign and domestic policy programs, largely by shaping the discourse and narratives, especially through their many brain trusts like the Rhodes Scholarship, the Council on Foreign Relations (which was created as an extension of Chatham House). The Rhodes Scholarships, which regularly churns out new agents sponsored by the rabid imperialist Cecil's Rhodes ''Rhodes Scholarship'' fund which he set up to maintain the global supremacy of the English white race (that was literally his stated goal)... Many of these scholars are trained in Britain and then return to the US to carry out policy changes.
The narrative control is run by a small and tight high-level intelligence circle, but it would be a mistake to attribute most of that narrative control to the USA. It's much more nuanced than that.
The US is only one of the ''Five Eyes,'' but the idea of the American Republic, despite all its failings and tragedy in recent times, remains the primary target for destruction by this Anglo-American slime mold. All we have to do is look at how every policy adopted by recent administrations has been aimed at destroying the American economy and bringing it under the control of this Wall Street-City of London financial octopus (with the Five Eyes being its intelligence arm).
These interests need to destroy the idea of the American Republic and the US Constitution to impose the kind of global fascist technocratic dictatorship they want. They know this. As long as even a faint memory of that exists, there's always the risk of some uprising. Hence, why they have such mixed feelings about the internet and how quickly information spreads. A lot of resources have been poured into training these Fabians and empire stooges and other deep state creatures through a tightly controlled network of ''elite'' universities and academic brain trusts, ''think tanks'' and other empire cutouts.
Alas, finding out that outfits like Bellingcat and British intelligence are plotting to destroy one of the most important American independent news outlets comes as no surprise.
And Davos is organized by the WEF which is run by Klaus Schwab, and Klaus Schwab reports to...?
This is where it gets interesting. Do we really think Klaus Schwab is at the apex of the world's power pyramid? I don't want to discount his power in controlling the international imperial or global capitalist narrative and agenda, but my instincts are that he's just another obsequious toady and that there is at least one tier of power above him. To whom (or what) does Klaus Schwab report?
There is no formal structure above him, above the CFR etc. Such organizations are controlled by a confluence of interests, mostly corporate, which C. Wright Mills called the "power elite." There is no single conspiracy or overall structure. It's all a coincidental confluence of powerful interests. That's why there are occasional fissures, as between elite Trump supporters and globalists or between globalists and the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO). But currently the WEF globalists have the upper hand over the elite MAGA supporters.
All true, but wherever the informal structure doesn't have the same overall effect of a formal structure, formal measures are quietly taken to address it. Why else would they have these in-person private conferences (Davos, Bilberbug etc.)? They could easily all talk to each other online. Are there things that they dare not leave any record of?
To say there is no "formal structure" doesn't mean there aren't ad hoc (temporary) structures created to organize specific responses. eg Event 201. There are also long-term organizations that push various aspects of the agenda, but whether these are all micro-managed by the likes of Schwab or Gates, you'd be hard pressed to prove that.
The one thing the deep state cannot be accused of is having an imagination. They run the same playbook time after time after time. How often have they run the same coup operation in Central and South America? I've lost count. How many color revolutions? How many proxy wars? Power has its privileges, the main one being never needing to exercise imagination.
Similar to Hollywood....how many Spiderman movies are their? It’s not like it’s a complicated story that bears repetition well. How many times can you watch a bunch of out of touch comedians pretending to be hungover after a bachelor party or Liam Niesen kill somebody who kidnapped his daughter?? Hollywood increasingly serves movies that are probably easier to make than watch.
I remember how uncomfortable it can be to be considered a "far left rogue academic" -- in my case, someone teaching/preaching to his college students, the apocalyptic reality of biosphere destruction and climate change during the late 1980's. It's minimally satisfying -- if at all -- to be proven correct years later. The scars remain, as illustrated by a friend who asked why I've been so angry. My answer was anger at living in a society dominated by mindless criticism and uninformed bloviation against anyone with a perspective counter to the conventional billionaire-generated standard narrative. The deeper gut-level answer is that I daily feel like I can't freaking breathe in this atmosphere of mendacity.
I can remember my introduction to Bellingcat, they were promoted on the BBC, Andrew Neil's 'Daily Politics' show to be precise. For people who don't know, Andrew Neil provided the only credible inquisitions on domestic politicians and policies on the BBC, it was ( and remains ) a very low bar though, his geo-political commentary was always less convincing and considering the subsequent patterns of behaviour, now highly suspect in my opinion.
The subject matter was Syria, the date around 2015 I think. Bellingcat were introduced as 'citizen journalists', which I found odd at the time, essentially quoted as 'independent' journalists who supported attacking Assad's Syria. Additional 'independent' evidence was provided by the 'Syrian Observatory for Human Rights', an organisation frequently quoted on the BBC, which subsequently turned out to be a man in a semi detached house in the UK midlands who was funded by the UK Foreign Office, as exposed by Peter Hitchens.
Doesn't all US MSM have cozy relationships with the FBI/CIA proven at least by the IG report during Trump, GWB during Iraq, and too many others to count? Shouldn’t we assume all corporate media outlets are corrupt? When there is no diversity among those educating our children and those reporting our news who are 95+% Progressive useful idiots it demonstrates the real diversity problem we face.
Well, it's a well known fact and logical principle that "triangulating" info from Hell legitimizes and rehabilitates it. It's all in the "triangulation", or trial by fire. Maybe all this shit will sharpen the public's sensitivity to misinformation generally. It isn't all that difficult, I mean, "curveball"??? And the Russian shtick is getting downright borrrring. If Russia didn't exist they'd have to invent it. Well, their version is invented.
What a wasted effort on the part of Mason and Khan. The alleged "anti-war left" has been subverted already a million ways to one to the point it doesn't really exist except as a figment of wild imaginations. What the hell do you think "Justin Raimondo" is? That was two decades earlier. Same thing. The subversion goes back way beyond that.
What is Bellingcat and who is Mason? I'm anti-war and I've never heard of Mason and I've never read Bellingcat. They have no influence, or no direct influence at least, on me whatsoever. Who are they influencing considering that?
Bellingcat is frequently cited as a supposedly unimpeachable source by the MSM, supposedly with exclusive access to intel that no one else has. Unfortunately the reason no one has access to that "intel" is because they've invented it themselves. Bellingcat was pretty much the sole source for the claim that Syria supposedly gassed its own citizens in territory that it already controlled, with a gas that they had never produced or been known to purchase. Even though the documents they presented as their "proof positive" turned out to be fake, and that they knew were fake, the claim is still repeated in pretty much every story about Syria.
Thanks for elaborating. My question is, just who is the MSM trying to convince with these machinations? The majority of the public at large, mostly the unwashed, don't think too deeply about any of this if they think about it at all. What I mean to say is, the MSM wouldn't even need to cite Bellingcat as an unimpeachable source because the larger audience doesn't even require the feigned validation of the claims being made. The MSM could make the claim unsourced and the larger audience will just accept it at face value. Of course, we know there is an audience of insiders within the larger audience who do care, but you would think this audience of insiders would be sufficiently skeptical enough to not just accept Bellingcat as an unimpeachable source. This audience within the larger audience is every bit as intelligent and savvy as you and I are. It seems a wasted effort to me. Why go through the trouble? Nothing better to do?
Committed Democrats, who tend to be more intelligent than average, but no less gullible. If something sounds too absurd, like Assad launching chemical weapons at areas he controlled, they'll be suspicious that they're being lied to, **BUT** if you back your claim up with references they'll fall right back in line. The readers at Wonkette are an excellent example of this, and they get quite irate when I document for them that the sources that they're relying on are full of crap. They **WANT** to believe that their leadership wouldn't lie, since that makes them the "good guys". Kicking that prop out from under them is often taken as a personal attack.
So much of it is a farce. The hypocrisy is so stark, you need a chain saw to cut through it. America is destroying Syria because Assad is a brutal thug who gases his own people, or so they claim, yet McDonald Trump quite literally murdered nearly a million of his own people by allowing COVFEFE-45 to run wild and not containing it as China has done. What McDonald did was the same as gassing his own people and yet McDonald has not only not been prosecuted and locked up for life and/or executed, he hasn't even been accused of crimes against humanity and walks free and rich to this day.
Hell, Shrub openly committed the same war crimes that the Nuremberg Commission **executed** people for, and not only has he gotten away with it but he got Obama to protect him and his entire Madministration.
Nina Jancowcz (or Ursula Poppins as I like to call her)- is almost indescribably vile and objectionable. Her very existence must be excruciating torment for the Cosmic Mother that holds space for Things to Exist. Please send her back to the void ASAP. Amen
I have grown to despise Mason. He’s a shape-shifting ideologue with the false belief - despite his own messianic confidence - that he’s still a man of the people by dint of being born in a small, northern (English) former mining town. I’ve watched him transform and shift to keep himself positioned in a semi-political, media, intelligence limelight. A dangerous man who has parallels with Christopher Hitchens and his shift to neoliberal fandom and support for the Iraq war. A disgusting creature who’s own self-interest trumps morality and conviction.
LOL They are on fire, and soon their entire house of cards is gonna burn right on down. What a bunch of jerks. And AGAIN, with the "Russia hacking us" bullshit? Puh-leeeeze.
The GZ article reads like Mason is having a break down but he probably isn't. He's just doing a Russiagate repeat: deflect responsibility for a gigantic screw up by trying to pin the blame an imaginary Russian/Chinese spy conspiracy.
What was Mason's role in the shameful defenestration of Corbyn?
"Grayzone may have risked exposure of my confidential journalistic sources." Specifically, Amil Khan. As with Paul Masson, Eliot Higgins does not challenge the authenticity of emails Grayzone has published, just that they were "hacked."
Thank you for sharing this, Caitlin.
In the spirit of "triangulating" information like the empire stooges, I think we're definitely arriving at a critical juncture where the relationship between Five Eyes members needs to be understood in the broader context of the Anglo-American slime mold and its intelligence octopus. It's not just the US, or the CIA, or FBI. If we consider the 2003 WMD "dodgy dossier" that sparked the Iraq war propaganda campaign and then fast-forward to the 2016 ''dirty dossier,'' we discover a great irony. In both cases, the “dossiers” which set an entire chain of events into motion and fundamentally altered the course of American politics, Britain's MI6 was at the center of planning the operations. Christopher Steele, who set the 2016 Russiagate operation into motion was a protege of none other than... Sir Richard Dearlove, then MI6 director who presided over the 10 Downing Street WMD dodgy ''intelligence'' dossier.
It's the same small grouping.
While the US military has served as the muscle for imperial wars, I think people often fail to distinguish the brains from the brawn. British intelligence tends to play a catalytic role in many of the most pivotal US foreign and domestic policy programs, largely by shaping the discourse and narratives, especially through their many brain trusts like the Rhodes Scholarship, the Council on Foreign Relations (which was created as an extension of Chatham House). The Rhodes Scholarships, which regularly churns out new agents sponsored by the rabid imperialist Cecil's Rhodes ''Rhodes Scholarship'' fund which he set up to maintain the global supremacy of the English white race (that was literally his stated goal)... Many of these scholars are trained in Britain and then return to the US to carry out policy changes.
The narrative control is run by a small and tight high-level intelligence circle, but it would be a mistake to attribute most of that narrative control to the USA. It's much more nuanced than that.
The US is only one of the ''Five Eyes,'' but the idea of the American Republic, despite all its failings and tragedy in recent times, remains the primary target for destruction by this Anglo-American slime mold. All we have to do is look at how every policy adopted by recent administrations has been aimed at destroying the American economy and bringing it under the control of this Wall Street-City of London financial octopus (with the Five Eyes being its intelligence arm).
These interests need to destroy the idea of the American Republic and the US Constitution to impose the kind of global fascist technocratic dictatorship they want. They know this. As long as even a faint memory of that exists, there's always the risk of some uprising. Hence, why they have such mixed feelings about the internet and how quickly information spreads. A lot of resources have been poured into training these Fabians and empire stooges and other deep state creatures through a tightly controlled network of ''elite'' universities and academic brain trusts, ''think tanks'' and other empire cutouts.
Alas, finding out that outfits like Bellingcat and British intelligence are plotting to destroy one of the most important American independent news outlets comes as no surprise.
The best argument against a conspiracy is a form of Occam's razor, "How could so many people keep this a secret?"
As you show here, it's not that many people, and whoops, they didn't keep it secret.
The ''Five Eyes'' all report to Davos.
And Davos is organized by the WEF which is run by Klaus Schwab, and Klaus Schwab reports to...?
This is where it gets interesting. Do we really think Klaus Schwab is at the apex of the world's power pyramid? I don't want to discount his power in controlling the international imperial or global capitalist narrative and agenda, but my instincts are that he's just another obsequious toady and that there is at least one tier of power above him. To whom (or what) does Klaus Schwab report?
There is no formal structure above him, above the CFR etc. Such organizations are controlled by a confluence of interests, mostly corporate, which C. Wright Mills called the "power elite." There is no single conspiracy or overall structure. It's all a coincidental confluence of powerful interests. That's why there are occasional fissures, as between elite Trump supporters and globalists or between globalists and the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO). But currently the WEF globalists have the upper hand over the elite MAGA supporters.
All true, but wherever the informal structure doesn't have the same overall effect of a formal structure, formal measures are quietly taken to address it. Why else would they have these in-person private conferences (Davos, Bilberbug etc.)? They could easily all talk to each other online. Are there things that they dare not leave any record of?
To say there is no "formal structure" doesn't mean there aren't ad hoc (temporary) structures created to organize specific responses. eg Event 201. There are also long-term organizations that push various aspects of the agenda, but whether these are all micro-managed by the likes of Schwab or Gates, you'd be hard pressed to prove that.
We will never know and that's just how they want it to be.
It’s more complicated…
This is a very lucid and easy read, “ Why the Anglo-American Special Relationship Must End.”
https://canadianpatriot.org/2022/06/09/why-the-anglo-american-special-relationship-must-end/
There are some great clues there.
"May be altered or faked".
That was the same nonsense peddled when the DNC emails were leaked. Of course, they were unaltered and genuine.
Just as with the DNC leak, Mason really thinks his emails were altered or faked, it should be easy for him to demonstrate.
Of course, Mason knows better, which is why he deflects and throws out baseless accusations, rather than rise to the challenge.
The one thing the deep state cannot be accused of is having an imagination. They run the same playbook time after time after time. How often have they run the same coup operation in Central and South America? I've lost count. How many color revolutions? How many proxy wars? Power has its privileges, the main one being never needing to exercise imagination.
Similar to Hollywood....how many Spiderman movies are their? It’s not like it’s a complicated story that bears repetition well. How many times can you watch a bunch of out of touch comedians pretending to be hungover after a bachelor party or Liam Niesen kill somebody who kidnapped his daughter?? Hollywood increasingly serves movies that are probably easier to make than watch.
And why not? Enough people fall for same plays, over and over and over.
I remember how uncomfortable it can be to be considered a "far left rogue academic" -- in my case, someone teaching/preaching to his college students, the apocalyptic reality of biosphere destruction and climate change during the late 1980's. It's minimally satisfying -- if at all -- to be proven correct years later. The scars remain, as illustrated by a friend who asked why I've been so angry. My answer was anger at living in a society dominated by mindless criticism and uninformed bloviation against anyone with a perspective counter to the conventional billionaire-generated standard narrative. The deeper gut-level answer is that I daily feel like I can't freaking breathe in this atmosphere of mendacity.
I can remember my introduction to Bellingcat, they were promoted on the BBC, Andrew Neil's 'Daily Politics' show to be precise. For people who don't know, Andrew Neil provided the only credible inquisitions on domestic politicians and policies on the BBC, it was ( and remains ) a very low bar though, his geo-political commentary was always less convincing and considering the subsequent patterns of behaviour, now highly suspect in my opinion.
The subject matter was Syria, the date around 2015 I think. Bellingcat were introduced as 'citizen journalists', which I found odd at the time, essentially quoted as 'independent' journalists who supported attacking Assad's Syria. Additional 'independent' evidence was provided by the 'Syrian Observatory for Human Rights', an organisation frequently quoted on the BBC, which subsequently turned out to be a man in a semi detached house in the UK midlands who was funded by the UK Foreign Office, as exposed by Peter Hitchens.
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2018/05/14/a-daily-mail-journalist-goes-rogue-exposing-a-scandalous-200k-payment-by-boris-johnson/
All very incestuous, as it turns out.
Evefyday I wonder if things will get worse before they get better. I'm never disappointed.
Doesn't all US MSM have cozy relationships with the FBI/CIA proven at least by the IG report during Trump, GWB during Iraq, and too many others to count? Shouldn’t we assume all corporate media outlets are corrupt? When there is no diversity among those educating our children and those reporting our news who are 95+% Progressive useful idiots it demonstrates the real diversity problem we face.
Well, it's a well known fact and logical principle that "triangulating" info from Hell legitimizes and rehabilitates it. It's all in the "triangulation", or trial by fire. Maybe all this shit will sharpen the public's sensitivity to misinformation generally. It isn't all that difficult, I mean, "curveball"??? And the Russian shtick is getting downright borrrring. If Russia didn't exist they'd have to invent it. Well, their version is invented.
What a wasted effort on the part of Mason and Khan. The alleged "anti-war left" has been subverted already a million ways to one to the point it doesn't really exist except as a figment of wild imaginations. What the hell do you think "Justin Raimondo" is? That was two decades earlier. Same thing. The subversion goes back way beyond that.
What is Bellingcat and who is Mason? I'm anti-war and I've never heard of Mason and I've never read Bellingcat. They have no influence, or no direct influence at least, on me whatsoever. Who are they influencing considering that?
Bellingcat is frequently cited as a supposedly unimpeachable source by the MSM, supposedly with exclusive access to intel that no one else has. Unfortunately the reason no one has access to that "intel" is because they've invented it themselves. Bellingcat was pretty much the sole source for the claim that Syria supposedly gassed its own citizens in territory that it already controlled, with a gas that they had never produced or been known to purchase. Even though the documents they presented as their "proof positive" turned out to be fake, and that they knew were fake, the claim is still repeated in pretty much every story about Syria.
Thanks for elaborating. My question is, just who is the MSM trying to convince with these machinations? The majority of the public at large, mostly the unwashed, don't think too deeply about any of this if they think about it at all. What I mean to say is, the MSM wouldn't even need to cite Bellingcat as an unimpeachable source because the larger audience doesn't even require the feigned validation of the claims being made. The MSM could make the claim unsourced and the larger audience will just accept it at face value. Of course, we know there is an audience of insiders within the larger audience who do care, but you would think this audience of insiders would be sufficiently skeptical enough to not just accept Bellingcat as an unimpeachable source. This audience within the larger audience is every bit as intelligent and savvy as you and I are. It seems a wasted effort to me. Why go through the trouble? Nothing better to do?
Committed Democrats, who tend to be more intelligent than average, but no less gullible. If something sounds too absurd, like Assad launching chemical weapons at areas he controlled, they'll be suspicious that they're being lied to, **BUT** if you back your claim up with references they'll fall right back in line. The readers at Wonkette are an excellent example of this, and they get quite irate when I document for them that the sources that they're relying on are full of crap. They **WANT** to believe that their leadership wouldn't lie, since that makes them the "good guys". Kicking that prop out from under them is often taken as a personal attack.
So much of it is a farce. The hypocrisy is so stark, you need a chain saw to cut through it. America is destroying Syria because Assad is a brutal thug who gases his own people, or so they claim, yet McDonald Trump quite literally murdered nearly a million of his own people by allowing COVFEFE-45 to run wild and not containing it as China has done. What McDonald did was the same as gassing his own people and yet McDonald has not only not been prosecuted and locked up for life and/or executed, he hasn't even been accused of crimes against humanity and walks free and rich to this day.
Hell, Shrub openly committed the same war crimes that the Nuremberg Commission **executed** people for, and not only has he gotten away with it but he got Obama to protect him and his entire Madministration.
You call what Eliot Higgins did a "pace"; I would call it a moonwalk.
Ragefully chasing these beings down the street with a heavy broken off table leg will feel SO good after all these decades of bottling.
Nina Jancowcz (or Ursula Poppins as I like to call her)- is almost indescribably vile and objectionable. Her very existence must be excruciating torment for the Cosmic Mother that holds space for Things to Exist. Please send her back to the void ASAP. Amen
I have grown to despise Mason. He’s a shape-shifting ideologue with the false belief - despite his own messianic confidence - that he’s still a man of the people by dint of being born in a small, northern (English) former mining town. I’ve watched him transform and shift to keep himself positioned in a semi-political, media, intelligence limelight. A dangerous man who has parallels with Christopher Hitchens and his shift to neoliberal fandom and support for the Iraq war. A disgusting creature who’s own self-interest trumps morality and conviction.
LOL They are on fire, and soon their entire house of cards is gonna burn right on down. What a bunch of jerks. And AGAIN, with the "Russia hacking us" bullshit? Puh-leeeeze.
Paul Mason: "We will tell no lie before it's time."
The GZ article reads like Mason is having a break down but he probably isn't. He's just doing a Russiagate repeat: deflect responsibility for a gigantic screw up by trying to pin the blame an imaginary Russian/Chinese spy conspiracy.
What was Mason's role in the shameful defenestration of Corbyn?
"Grayzone may have risked exposure of my confidential journalistic sources." Specifically, Amil Khan. As with Paul Masson, Eliot Higgins does not challenge the authenticity of emails Grayzone has published, just that they were "hacked."