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John Ressler's avatar

"Free Palestine" is something everyone with a shred of humanity should be saying, thinking and feeling. What kind of people don't / won't say this? Killing and starving innocent people shouldn't be debatable.

Brianna Amore's avatar

And of course the Hasbarists will inevitably reply "But but but Hamas killed over 3000 people on October7th!"

I still see them making the same damned response every single time. Because in their mind for every Israeli killed a hundred Palestinians must die. That is the mindset of MONSTERS.

Anti-Hip's avatar

"That is the mindset of MONSTERS."

I understand they are primarily supremacists and not necessarily psychopaths. Meaning the approach needs to be different for each.

Most Zionists sincerely believe they are acting in the right by God (or by will to power, or whatever other antisocial ideology), while psychopaths don't give a damn about anything or anyone but themselves and Zionism is simply a convenient/best path. Supremacists can presumably be reformed, while psychopaths can only be contained. We need to figure out how to identify which mindset (or both) is operative for any individual, and address both.

Davina's avatar

You can use all the fancy words you like but it comes down quite simply to them being thieves, nothing more.

They stole the word Semite from the true Semites, they stole the land the true Semites lived on, they stole the homes of the true Semites and put their antisemites into them. They stole the livestock of the true Semites, not for food because israel feeds these antisemites, but to kill them in order to deprive the true Semites of a living. They ripped up the olive trees of the true Semites and burned them to deprive those true Semites of a living. They bulldozed farms of the true Semites into the ground, depriving them if food and a living. These antisemites blocked aid trucks from getting in to help the starving and sick true Semites. They bombed the hospitals of the true Semites to stop them from being able to get help when their homes were bombed. The antisemites turned off the water, electricity and gas of the true Semites to deprive them of the necessities of life. The antisemitic soldiers use snipers to kill the true Semite children, to steal their future.

The antisemites stole everything they could think of from the true Semites, but the one thing they could not touch is the true Semites' everlasting belief in their God.

The difference between the god of the underworld, satan, and the true God is massive. The antisemites' god stands for hate, murder, torture and rape. It does not endow courage, just watch these antisemites run when confronted by a child with a sling, or one on one, man to man - they run. That is your antisemitic zionist for you - a thief.

Anti-Hip's avatar

"You can use all the fancy words you like..."

So, you don't understand what I said, don't even *want* to understand what I said, but instead want launch into something else, and expect me to engage you on it? Got it.

Look, I can agree with you on all the specific facts you mentioned about Zionist behavior. I'm not disputing those things. That's why we're all here, after all. But I find this site is used much more for venting than problem-solving. I'm not getting into the religious claims, except to point out that none of them -- from any side -- are transferable to a skeptic, so they're pretty much useless for persuasion.

Mary Wildfire's avatar

I don't really see the distinction.

Anti-Hip's avatar

Psychopaths (by nature, not nurture, as with sociopaths) possess a psychological perspective that apparently cannot be reformed (by any known psychological correctional methods) so that they have sympathetic and empathic feelings for, and thus behavior towards, other people. Simply put, they don't care about others. It has no dependence on ideology. But, IMO, it's the main ingredient that makes implemented capitalist systems "bad" to Leftists, just as it makes implemented socialism "bad" to Rightists. Whatever system of social organization, they game it for personal gain and control.

Society needs to, somehow, restrict their ability to harm other people. Currently, we barely know how to identify them, much less contain their harmful behavior. But it is a growing recognition that they are likely at the root of many of the worlds problems. In (Abrahamic) religions, they are identified as "evil", but that word is a black box that explains almost nothing, and runs the risk of unjustifiable abuse. IMO, psychopaths need *containment* specifically, not "punishment" ("correction") in our normal use. Unfortunately, that opens up the Pandora's box of what kind of "pre-crime" control can or should a society tolerate?

DLehman's avatar

So raping and shredding babies into pieces is just garden variety supremacy? Treating other humans as animals and deriving glee from torturing these so-called animals? I think the wait is over to determine whether this folk is a collection of psychopaths or supremacists. They’re psychopathic supremacists. I hope you can now retire from your hair splitting and put this one to rest..

Anti-Hip's avatar

"They’re psychopathic supremacists."

That may well be true for many of them. Those are still two different things. I'm not excusing anything. I'm getting at how which of them think, which makes all the difference in how we solve the problem as it exists with different types of people.

All the raging we may do at psychopathic controllers at the top won't move the needle one bit. It never has. Meanwhile, shaming a whole nation (primarily non-psychopaths) once did.

Myron DeWitt's avatar

One of the commenters equates Lindsey Clancy’s post partum insanity defense w/ Israelis’ rationale for Palestinian genocide.This is a very inapposite comparison . Israeli settlers in the West Bank have been conducting cold blooded killings of innocent Palestinian settlers for decades . They have no basis or colorable claim to the insanity defense . Whether the facts merit Lindsey Clancy’s post Partum insanity defense ( which 11 out of 12 jurors believed they did) , it isn’t analogous to Israeli genocidal behavior against Palestinians. The ICC has indicted Netanyahu for Israel’s genoicidal conduct in Gaza . The fact that some Israelis’ were victims of the holocaust isn’t a legal rationalization for Israeli genocidal conduct in the West Bank or Gaza .

Anti-Hip's avatar

As I understand it, certain Israeli settlers believe they are actors in a "holy war", and this is what they believe justifies their doing anything "needed" to support access to and holding their land, etc. claims -- including killing. For some people, war justifies any "defensive" behavior. Or, if God kills whole peoples in scripture, why can't they? Anything can be rationalized depending on worldview, and to the limit.

But if, say, certain of these people are *also* randomly and wantonly occasionally killing their own when they are triggered or "feel like it", then something completely different is going on there. That's psychopathy.

lance arrowood's avatar

You know a lot of slaves owners mean well and actually those darkies have a better quality life than if they were freed, and they are learning some skills! Don't be putting someone down because they own slaves, we are all individuals. Check please!

Ibti's avatar

only Islam keeps them in check. Christians are lenient with interest and immorality and then lash out in pogroms, feeding their victim narrative.

Anti-Hip's avatar

Every religion has its own problems. Its "truth" is declared by godmonger fiat, and is non-transferable to skeptics.

Breakup Google's avatar

Well then I am a monster too. I think a single Palestinian life is equal to a 1000 Isnt-reali so-called lives. I want Isnt-real wiped off the map. I want their vile cultist culture stomped out of existence.

Ginnie's avatar

They are like the Lindsay Clancy of nations: feel entitled to do horrible things cause of some past trauma. So tired of these professional victims who enjoy unprecedented privileges and protections and think the rules of common decency don't apply to them.

Snowleopard's avatar

You're on the right track, but Zionism is worse than that. Terrorism seeks subjugation through fear generated by atrocities. While Zionism certainly uses terrorism as a tool , the actual goal is ethnic cleansing and extermination.

MD308's avatar

You mean the fucking Jews

Snowleopard's avatar

No. It is not that simple. The leadership of Zionism is primarily Jewish, but so are many of their most vocal and articulate opponents. Also the murderous Zionist state could not continue to exist without the financial, political and religious support of millions of Christian Zionists.

javahut's avatar

Zionism = Jewish Supremacism = Terrorism

Lou Cassivi's avatar

Zionism = Fascism!

J Nels's avatar

It takes two to tango

Kelsey Marie Howe's avatar

Don't use the T word its another tool of political manipulation

Susan T's avatar

Every time I hear the word "antisemitism" these days I see a bunch of whiny faced racist facists in my mind. I am grateful for the bravery of people like Macklemore and "those students that risked their diplomas, that risked their tuition, that risked their scholarships, that stood up and said, no. CUAD students, Students for Justice in Palestine, and Jewish Voices for Peace." All of those people help me to know that while I may sometimes feel as if I am losing my mind when I hear about "proud Zionists" there is a little chance that perhaps sanity will eventually win.

Nancy's avatar

I am especially grateful to the students, the Palestinian journalists, many of whom Israel killed, and the health care workers who came back from Gaza, reported what they witnessed and experienced and risked their lives to save others. May we take our inspiration from them.

Susan T's avatar

Yes, all we would have is the wishy washy truths and outright lies of the mainstream media if it were not for all those people who have been saving lives and keeping us informed with the truth.

Patrick Powers's avatar

I have nowhere near that kind of guts.

MD308's avatar

Sure,.. & all go kiss some fucking Jews arse.. lol 🤣 🤮

David RS's avatar

"“Imagine being a Jewish or Israeli fan who came with family or friends to enjoy the show ..."

Well, I'm Jewish, but not Israeli (or a Zionist), and I imagine if I were a fan who came with family or friends to enjoy the show, I'd applaud the statement. So there's one person.

Vin LoPresti's avatar

Bravo, Tim.

As a Columbia Alum, I applaud my younger cohorts for their courageous stand against genocide. And for my "antisemitic" punishment, the university can feel free to take back my four degrees.

And go fuck itself along with Israel, the IDF, and all idiotic false flag BS conflating resistance to Zionism and Israel with anti-Judaism.

X K's avatar

"My message is for peace; love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality."

I am not so big-hearted as Mr. Macklemore. Well, perhaps I am, but I see a big obstacle standing before any well-meaning expression of love, and that is Israel/Zionism. That geographical/ideological dyad needs to be dismantled and hauled off to some remote location (better yet, put on a rocket to the sun) and cordoned off as hazardous waste, orders of magnitude worse than any radioactive or biological type. Once that is done we can focus on the love needed for people to lead lives with dignity.

Chico's avatar

Soooooooo correct! The ZioNazi mafia is already a fast creeping virus invading many spaces and nations to do their horrendous evil shit! Fuckkkk them! Shoot them into a black hole, never to be seen again.

Loam's avatar

👍🏽 - Ticks cannot be removed with love. I will always be at war with them.

X K's avatar

Well put. Not just ticks, but also leeches, tapeworms, other such parasites and potentially lethal infections.

Loam's avatar

In fact, a single word encompasses all current ills: Zionism.

X K's avatar

Yup, the cosmic black hole of everything evil, depraved, life sucking.

Chang Chokaski's avatar

Well said X K - I agree with you 💯!

Joseph's avatar

I find it interesting to watch the evolution of the definition, of an “antisemite” here in the West. 10 years ago, The definition referred to a Gentile, who either: uses nonviolent political troupes or another group— uses angry hate-based threats. The later group, were usually kept an eye on(as should be). About 5 years ago, a new type of antisemite was added. To use the common vernacular, A self hating Jew. Of course, to the rest of us, he/she was just warning us: Take it from a Jew—Beware of the Jews. They were usually honest, intelligent Jews who didn’t buy into the bullshit. And, since Gaza and the encrypted Epstein Files, a new definition of an “antisemite” has replaced the old definition. It is now “someone that Jews hate, or that resists Jewish supremacy”. Did you ever imagine that someone would be called an antisemite because they opposed Genocide?

John Ressler's avatar

"Did you ever imagine that someone would be called an antisemite because they opposed Genocide?" NO - not a million years. Those who face the absurd charge of antisemitism should ask the accuser - are you a supporter of genocide? Don't allow these monsters to override your humanity and support for Palestinian rights. It is these people who are morally incorrect not you.

Brianna Amore's avatar

"But but but October 7th!" will be their inevitable reply.

John Ressler's avatar

When historical context is removed and ignored the inevitable fighting back of Oct.7th, is not understood or considered by the genocidal ZioNazis. From my perspective, I am surprised that it didn't occur much sooner. (Keep in mind, I tried unsuccessfully in my early 20's to kill a bully, -a person or a people can only take so much abuse before they fight back) As Zionists have bought our government and various print and media outlets, the Palestinian POV is entirely absent. It's left to fair minded moral people to take a stand.

Brianna Amore's avatar

Exactly. These people love to pretend that October 7th happened out of a vacuum when all evidence points to the fact that Palestinians have been living in the largest open-air prison for the past several decades. Their rights, curtailed. Their movement, closely monitored. Their ability to live freely, non-existent. Meanwhile Israel continued to encroach on their land and take more and more of it away and give it to their settlers. All backed by the mighty USA and 40 billion taxpayer dollars per year.

EnigmaEyes's avatar

And the response?........Helicopters and tanks were not fired by Hamas.

Sol's avatar

There are no self-hating Jews. Only bitter, angry Zionists who hate real Jews.

Nassim Sahar's avatar

No, maybe you just became aware of the phenomenon recently, but they've been calling anyone who advocates for Palestinians antisemite for a very long time.

Daniel Beegan's avatar

Good on Macklemore. As for me, I don't hate Jews but I do hate genocidal Israel.

Michael  Lynch's avatar

Everything is “anti-Semitic” these days.

Don’t believe it? Ask any AI platform a pointed question about the Gaza genocide or, better yet, copy and paste anti-genocide 2026 topics, such as this one, into an AI chat of your choice.

I did just that with this article and . . . .

Just prepare to be drowned in a tidal wave of propaganda, distortion, obfuscation, and pure bull shit. Because . . . “the Holocaust” and “October 7” are repeatedly dragged out as though they justify anything the Israeli government decides to do in Gaza (or anywhere else for that matter).

After all, those are the only two "genocides that matter."

Anti-Hip's avatar

AI is the enemy's new primary tool. It is being openly forced down our throats, making the capitalist claim of consumer choice now not only questionable to the vast majority, but utterly laughable.

Michael  Lynch's avatar

Bullseye! My point exactly.

Mo Mast's avatar

rotflmao. i had no idea who maclemore was until i saw this blow up. the media is actually doing a great job of spreading awareness. if they had not blown this up only the people at the concert would have known. now the entire planet knows. what morons

narjis of many camels's avatar

Before the genocide, I was wearing a Pink Floyd tee shirt and a customer told me about how horrible it was that he was at a concert and Roger Waters talked about Palestine on stage. The customer was all like, "musicians should stay out of politics". So i totally got more into Pink Floyd, I didn't know that much about Palestine back then but I sure knew which side I was on.

Feral Finster's avatar

I'm sure this twerp was saying the same thing about Boy George, Bob Dylan or whatever, right?

ikester8's avatar

The Streisand Effect, as it were.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

I'm going to call it the Bob Vylan Effect.

NIZAMIXIII's avatar

Def Def to the IDF!

Diana van Eyk's avatar

Calling the defence of Palestine anti-semitism is basically saying you're A-OK with genocide. Like WTF?

Stephen Walker's avatar

Because they are A-OK with genocide. Zionists are all disgusting psychopaths.

Rod Dawson's avatar

What low embarrassment to humanity would wage a genocide just to deny an indigenous people equal human rights? An Israeli. I had forgotten, in all the land theft and deliberate starvation and murdering children and atrocities and war crimes, that it really is that simple. Thanks to Macklemore for reminding us precisely how deeply nasty Israelis are. All Palestinians want, is to have the same rights the rest of the world takes for granted. Israelis don't want that. So they murder them.

John Ressler's avatar

"All Palestinians want, is to have the same rights the rest of the world takes for granted. Israelis don't want that. So they murder them." A M E N !

Mind you - the US government uses our tax money to pay for all of it - they punish all dissent of the ongoing crime - the Democratic Party started it and denied it; 86% of elected Democratic officials are on the AIPAC $$$ gift list - they ran a genocide candidate who lost to a convicted felon who amplified the genocide effort - yet, this same party has it's fake ex-POTUS hero asking us to give the DNC more money to defeat the bad guise in this November's election - are you fucking kidding me?

Stuck on truth's avatar

The ADL said nothing of meaning when Elon Musk on multiple occasions made Hitler salutes. The ADL is a Zionist lobbyist group that will literally label any person or group opposing the ongoing Gaza Holocaust as "anti-Semitic". Which can't be more cynic because Palestinians (as well as Lebanese and Syrians) are literally Semitic people while Ashkenazi jews originate from eastern Europe and are only "Semitic" by language, which was adopted.

And then this: "Pink reposted an Instagram Story from StopAntisemitism this weekend. Pink did not add any commentary of her own to the repost ... however, sharing the criticism to her account has amplified the push to have Macklemore removed from further touring with Sheeran." Pink having advanced US imperial interests in the past exposing herself as anUS imperial Zionist shill.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

Never thought much of Pink as a performer, but now think even less of Pink as a person. Time to #BoycottPink and nobody show up for her next concert, etc.

JennyStokes's avatar

I made a comment today on Simplicius' site; the discussion was about who to vote for in England. I suggested Zak Polanski. First comment I got was: 'He's a Jew.'

I left England just after Corbyn was ousted for being pro-Palestine...........the English on the whole seem to hate anyone that is moral.

Jim KABLE's avatar

And Corbyn was ousted after a sustained attack by Mossad and Zionist agents operating out of Israeli Ambassador to the UK - Mark Regev (real name Freiberg - born raised to first undergrad degree in Melbourne, Australia). Read Asa Winstanley's superb book Weaponising Anti-Semitism (How the Israel Lobby Brought Down Jeremy Corbyn) - October 2023.

Jim KABLE's avatar

Probably you have read the same book? Or other exposés...

JennyStokes's avatar

Many other exposes.......yes indeed.

Brianna Amore's avatar

Wow I did not know this.

NIZAMIXIII's avatar

That first comment *is* anti-semitic. There is a concerted, distributed effort ongoing—mostly on Meta platforms—to smear pro Palestine posts with obviously anti-semitic ones—references to "the austrian painter" is trending. Spend five minutes hovering over profile names, and you'll find obvious bot accounts, and here and there a quasi bot account from India — probably kids in net cafes earning a few cents per post. Polanski himself (I am a supporter) was on the end of incredibly antisemitic cartoons in the new British gutter press—The Times, Sunday Times and Telegraph (yes, you read that right). As Jewish Voice for Peace, Medea Benjamin et all will tell you, being Jewish don't mean a thing if you're the "wrong kind of Jew." You're probably right to leave England—it is rapidly sliding into the fascist shithole it always secretly was.

JennyStokes's avatar

Not a lot better here in France Nizam. Here we have Russiaphobes and Muslim haters.

Seems that western white people can not understand morality!

The Revolution Continues's avatar

I think they're just scared--scared to find out that being a white Westerner does NOT make you "superior" to others. You're just another human being on a planet with about 8 billion others and you all are EQUALS. it just causes Western white people too much cognitive dissonance to bear.

Patrick Powers's avatar

There are millions of Western bigots but they are a minority. 30% at most, depending on where you draw the line. Too bad the bigots are in power these days. The tide is turning though. It's about time. I think we are about to see a rerun of 1854 when the anti-slavery Republican Party was founded. They took power a mere six years later.

Patrick Powers's avatar

It's a natural inclination towards tribalism. A regrettably basic instinct.

T4Lyn's avatar

Any UK political leader who wants to introduce any socialist policies will get tarred with the AS stick.

Feral Finster's avatar

For better or worse, Simplicus' site is infested with bonafide antisemites (as in "people who hate all Jews for being Jews") and wishful thinkers.

Jim KABLE's avatar

And let's admit it - those tiny percentage of truly anti-semitic attacks are probably mostly engineered by Mossad! More victim - more government money - harsher laws enacted - huge funds handed over to Zionist organisations.

Basil Rathbone's avatar

No one, outside of Israel and its paid platoons of bots and hasbarists, has anything but total contempt for Zionists, and most of us want to see the end of the state of Israel, forever. It's the most disastrous thing to happen in 500-1,000 years. If it's allowed to continue it will smother all opposition and force the rest of us into servitude, any way the Zionists choose to enslave us. But so far all we get is serial raging on the internet about its atrocities and demonic crimes.

None of that is going to stop Israel's uninhibited crime spree. They must be stopped militarily, by a coalition of states defeating the IDF and anyone coming to its aid. If some version of this never happens, how the hell are psycho-Zionists going to be held accountable? They don't care how much 90% of the world despises them. They want to be hated so they can claim victimhood. "Antisemitism!" Their lies and crimes against humanity will eventually destroy us all, if they are left to their own devices.

Nancy's avatar

We need to push back against this propaganda (anti genocide = antisemitism; or standing for Palestinian freedom = antisemitism) at least as hard as the propaganda has been pushed on us. Let’s call it out for what us is and not be intimidated. Push back loudly, clearly and often, as Caitlin is doing here. We need to take back the language and the narrative.