They don't give one shit about Gaza and that's evil. Ukraine is important to them because thats where they launder their ill gotten gains, what a sick world we live in.
When the retired Israeli general said that "not enough Palestinian children have died" nobody seemed to find that problematic. Yes, our world is sick, greedy and inhumane.
Not. a sick world Hanna a sick system covering all of the western empire. It is sick and depraved and even although it controls the media it still stands out bad
When the privileged founders wrote a constitution that would entrench their privileged minority and sustain a property-based legal system, the writing was on the wall: Justice would be a subjective and private concern, not the purview of the state.
The DOJ and all incorporated offices of law enforcement are there to uphold the core dogma of the constitution, not to do what is right. Back when the nation was new and wobbly, the law and what is right were often convergent.
The twentieth century marked a permanent path upon which the law and the right were moving in opposite directions.. Today we are an oligarchy that has muted the masses and seized and consolidated the offices of the state to serve the prerogatives of the oligarchs. It wouldn’t have happened if social Justice was considered an inalienable right.
What missile hit the Children's Hospital in Kiev? A whole side of a hospital wing was evenly stripped of windows, which a directional-fragmentation warhead could do.
The video here can be paused click by click to show a long, thin missile, coming down at a steep angle, which has small fins in the middle, and medium fins near the back, maybe not at the very back. It is not hypersonic, not glowing white. https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1810277872013062224
Some claim that it is a cruise missile, a KH-101, but KH-101 has big wings in the middle and fins at the back and also an external jet engine. Those features are lacking. https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1592631965533949954
It does not look like a Patriot, which has very clean lines and small fins at the back. It does not look like the huge-finned S-200 missiles that Ukraine has used against surface targets sometimes. It also does not look like an S-300, which has very clean lines and small rear fins, like a Patriot. http://www.astronautix.com/s/s-300.html
It does look consistent with a Soviet era 2K12 "Kub" or "Sam-6" in NATO parlance, 1970s surface to air missile, fired from a mobile, motorized platform and having a 132# fragmentation warhead. This was a popular and much-exported air-defense missile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kubhttp://www.astronautix.com/k/kub.html
Norway-Supplied Air Defense System Fired Missile That Hit Hospital in Kiev - Russia's UN Envoy An air defense missile that hit a children's hospital in Kiev was likely fired from a Norway-supplied NASAMS system, and Russia is waiting for a reaction from Oslo in this regard, Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vassily Nebenzia said on Tuesday.
Every single one of them would have privatised that hospital, and cheered its being closed for corporate profits, even if desperately needed for the locals.
I once knew a heavily narcissistic pathological liar IRL called "Nick", who 'got away' with his actions for a while with every new group. Causing mayhem. Eventually, most would realise they couldn't trust ANY words out of him.
This is where we are at with Western 'elites'.
They are just pathological liars, and anyone who listens and believes their stories becomes a fool.
FWIW. Just listened to a Ralph Nader podcast. Private equity, the Carlisle group, is buying nursing homes selling the land forcing the home to pay rent they can’t afford. Old age care in the US sucks.
NOTE this is what private equity always does! It is extortion and fraud.
They despise us. They have always despised us, only now they feel absolutely invincible about it with their spyware and surveillance capabilities, fuck it - this message is practically writing itself. Anyway, they’re not going to change until we change. Until the people say: ENOUGH! And I’m not holding my breath for that to happen.
It could have been. But I don’t know of any evidence. Some claim it was a NASAM but if the video that supposedly shows the hit is correct, no way does a SAM create that much smoke.
My theory is that was the NATO C&C center for the ATACM that hit Crimea. If it was a KH101. If it really hit a children’s hospital.
Hmm, now where have I heard that excuse before?? 😉
I was expecting to hear it from the Russians, not so much claiming it's true as to highlight Western hypocrisy (which needs all the highlighting it deserves).
Not sure I understand. Finding Ukrainians boasting about using hospitals, schools the like for military purposes, of using ambulances for troop transport, etc. is not hard.
The question is - what does Russia propose to do about it?
Which video. There is indeed one that shows a NASAM and another one that shows a KH-101. Same flight path.
Where's the remnants? How do you verify where those photos were taken? There's no "clearly" about anything regarding this incident.
Reminds me of the report of the Russians dropping a missile in Poland, which got changed to it being a Ukraine intercepter missile that went off course.
When I looked at the photos of the damage, it was a shaft into which corn was being dumped. The explosion was right on top of that shaft.
It was a grain elevator explosion. No way you'll ever convince me otherwise.
I respectfully disagree. I think it does matter who did what, because to throw one's hands up and say "who knows" lets Ukraine off the hook for all kinds of well-documented horrors, while assuming that the accusations against Russia are *probably* true because Ukraine makes so many of them, even though looking into any one in detail leads to nothing but dead ends
indeed, some discern a pattern. most ukrainians should in the mean know that it's time to hit the cellars and avoid public places when their prez goes out to beg.
IsraHell made impossible to condemn anyone who bombs, attacks, hit hospitals or civilians infrastructures killing hundreds of kids, women, elderly and civilian men. IsraHell gave the green light to any war crimes on innocent civilians because of the nonchalant attitude of the West not to block stop halt sanction the genocidal IOF and zions motherf@ckers.
Actually, Israel is largely just copying the US/UK playbook on dealing with so-called "insurgencies", aka "Freedom fighters who want the occupiers to fuck the fuck off".
What Israel did and is doing to Gaza is just a little more refined than what the USA did to Fallujah, fx.
What we are witnessing is Western Imperialism, and not even at its bloodiest.
What a difference a country makes, eh? If it's the country the USA supports, it's OK to bomb children and hospitals. But if a children's hospital in Ukraine is bombed, it's immediately blamed on Russia, which is then painted as being immoral.
Which is it? Is it OK to bomb children and hospitals or not?
The reality is that the Empire Managers do not really care about children anywhere (including in the US). The Empire Managers don't work on any framework of morality (AFAIK).
The nightmare that is happening in Gaza is heartbreaking, but perhaps it is the nightmare that will snap the rest of the world awake, to reject the propaganda of politicians, despots and thugs. This is the one hope I hold onto.
The thief Zelensky hasnt got to worry about being reelected because he's banned all elections,all political parties and all free speech,all the things that we are supposedly fighting so Ukraine can keep,oh my mistake,WE are not fighting at all are we. We are just sympathetic bystanders taking a completely uninvolved passive interest and helping out a bit with supplying the odd bit of military hardware,just to keep the pot on the boil.
We are literally living inside the fable: The Emperor Has No Clothes. We just have to gather enough voices to call this out. The US is an illegitimate kakistocracy. If you are remotely awake, you never accept the statements of the US or their vassal states at face value.
These shameless Western hypocrites are so outraged about the bombing of the children's hospital in Kyiv (without knowing, I might add, the exact details) not because they give a shit about dead children as their deafening silence about Israel's deliberate destruction of Gaza's healthcare system and the targeting of children has proven; it's because this convenient incident gives them an opportunity to ride into Washington on their moral high horses! There had better be a whole battalion of bulldozers lined up outside the doors of the NATO summit to clear away the torrents of bull shit!
A similar thing happened on the eve of NATO's summit in Vilnius. A market in Eastern Ukraine was hit by a missile that caused mass casualties, and the West Press immediately blamed Russia, even though it was later determined that it was a Ukrainian missile. Between Gaza and Ukraine, the double standard is standard in the West.
It's truly sad that the pro-Ukrainian propaganda is allowed to flourish in the Western Media. The missile that hit a hospital in Ukraine was not shot by the Russians. It was fired by the Ukrainians. It was either an accident or an attempt at a false flag event. The Russians have denied any involvement and the trajectory of the missile is evidence of a Ukrainian territory launch.
" Western leaders are responding very, very differently to this news than they have been to deliberate Israeli attacks on hospitals throughout the Gaza Strip."
It's like we all fell down the rabbit's hole along with Alice and ended up in a sick-and-twisted version of Wonderland. It's a surreal place where Western nations can supply a plethora of bombs and arms to destroy hospitals and health clinics and mass murder thousands in Gaza, but those very same nations (who openly supply bombs and arms to Ukraine) are "shocked" whenever the Ukrainians wind up possibly bombing their own hospital because they started a civil war against their ethnic Russian citizens in 2014...
Please pinch me I must be hallucinating. Destroying ANY HOSPITAL is wrong and against the UN's Human Rights declaration these Western nations all signed. Why can't Biden and his gang of thugs remember things like that. SIGH.
I find it hard to believe that these heads of state and otherwise cannot see the blatant hypocrisy of the statements that they are making about Russia bombing the children's hospital and their great outrage, when they had so little to say about Israelis deliberately bombing hospitals, repeatedly, and destroying the infrastructure in Gaza. Can they not see how they look to the rest of the world? They look ridiculous and stupid to think that normal people fail to conclude that they are sycophants of Israel and want to destroy Russia to the point where she no longer represents a threat to them. It is disgusting and evil.
They don't give one shit about Gaza and that's evil. Ukraine is important to them because thats where they launder their ill gotten gains, what a sick world we live in.
When the retired Israeli general said that "not enough Palestinian children have died" nobody seemed to find that problematic. Yes, our world is sick, greedy and inhumane.
Israelis don't give a shit about other Israelis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=kkVg8BHfdxQ
the IDF is completely out of control, living in a nightmare and they don't give a shit about anyone or anything, I don't think. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240709-israeli-soldiers-testify-to-shocking-details-of-free-for-all-violence-in-gaza/
Not. a sick world Hanna a sick system covering all of the western empire. It is sick and depraved and even although it controls the media it still stands out bad
The empire has made the world sick
When the privileged founders wrote a constitution that would entrench their privileged minority and sustain a property-based legal system, the writing was on the wall: Justice would be a subjective and private concern, not the purview of the state.
The DOJ and all incorporated offices of law enforcement are there to uphold the core dogma of the constitution, not to do what is right. Back when the nation was new and wobbly, the law and what is right were often convergent.
The twentieth century marked a permanent path upon which the law and the right were moving in opposite directions.. Today we are an oligarchy that has muted the masses and seized and consolidated the offices of the state to serve the prerogatives of the oligarchs. It wouldn’t have happened if social Justice was considered an inalienable right.
What missile hit the Children's Hospital in Kiev? A whole side of a hospital wing was evenly stripped of windows, which a directional-fragmentation warhead could do.
The video here can be paused click by click to show a long, thin missile, coming down at a steep angle, which has small fins in the middle, and medium fins near the back, maybe not at the very back. It is not hypersonic, not glowing white. https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1810277872013062224
Some claim that it is a cruise missile, a KH-101, but KH-101 has big wings in the middle and fins at the back and also an external jet engine. Those features are lacking. https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1592631965533949954
It does not look like a Patriot, which has very clean lines and small fins at the back. It does not look like the huge-finned S-200 missiles that Ukraine has used against surface targets sometimes. It also does not look like an S-300, which has very clean lines and small rear fins, like a Patriot. http://www.astronautix.com/s/s-300.html
It does look consistent with a Soviet era 2K12 "Kub" or "Sam-6" in NATO parlance, 1970s surface to air missile, fired from a mobile, motorized platform and having a 132# fragmentation warhead. This was a popular and much-exported air-defense missile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kub http://www.astronautix.com/k/kub.html
Norway-Supplied Air Defense System Fired Missile That Hit Hospital in Kiev - Russia's UN Envoy An air defense missile that hit a children's hospital in Kiev was likely fired from a Norway-supplied NASAMS system, and Russia is waiting for a reaction from Oslo in this regard, Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vassily Nebenzia said on Tuesday.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240709/norway-supplied-air-defense-system-fired-missile-that-hit-hospital-in-kiev---russias-un-envoy-1119317444.html
(Maybe the same?) Ukraine Situation Report: U.S. Confirms NASAMS Air Defense System Transfer, Ukraine is getting a modern medium-range SAM system
https://www.twz.com/ukraine-situation-report-u-s-confirms-nasams-air-defense-system-transfer
The CIA did it. To keep the pot boiling.
Dido, dido and dido. 💯🙏👍👏😢☮️🇵🇸 it’s maddening!!!!
'laundries' are a franchise, even in Israel...
'laundries' are a franchise, even in Israel...
Every single one of them would have privatised that hospital, and cheered its being closed for corporate profits, even if desperately needed for the locals.
I once knew a heavily narcissistic pathological liar IRL called "Nick", who 'got away' with his actions for a while with every new group. Causing mayhem. Eventually, most would realise they couldn't trust ANY words out of him.
This is where we are at with Western 'elites'.
They are just pathological liars, and anyone who listens and believes their stories becomes a fool.
FWIW. Just listened to a Ralph Nader podcast. Private equity, the Carlisle group, is buying nursing homes selling the land forcing the home to pay rent they can’t afford. Old age care in the US sucks.
NOTE this is what private equity always does! It is extortion and fraud.
That's been done in the UK for a long time with elderly care centres: privatised and raped by the private equity sector.
They despise us. They have always despised us, only now they feel absolutely invincible about it with their spyware and surveillance capabilities, fuck it - this message is practically writing itself. Anyway, they’re not going to change until we change. Until the people say: ENOUGH! And I’m not holding my breath for that to happen.
It was a Ukrainian missile that hit the hospital…
Correct...but it was an American made missile...Just like Israel's...
Yes
🤡
Why did you block me?
So she could just spray clowns?
Lol she blocked me too. Wasn't even aware we'd ever interacted
She's a serial blocker. Might be doing it based on people's profiles.
Me too. But she also leaves nice comments on my articles here. Strange!
oh wow you describe yourself as a NAFO fella? That's not something to be proud of
It could have been. But I don’t know of any evidence. Some claim it was a NASAM but if the video that supposedly shows the hit is correct, no way does a SAM create that much smoke.
My theory is that was the NATO C&C center for the ATACM that hit Crimea. If it was a KH101. If it really hit a children’s hospital.
Lots of ifs
Well, Ukraine has a long track record of using schools, hospitals and the like for military purposes, then crying when those facilities are hit.
Hmm, now where have I heard that excuse before?? 😉
I was expecting to hear it from the Russians, not so much claiming it's true as to highlight Western hypocrisy (which needs all the highlighting it deserves).
Not sure I understand. Finding Ukrainians boasting about using hospitals, schools the like for military purposes, of using ambulances for troop transport, etc. is not hard.
The question is - what does Russia propose to do about it?
The video clearly shows its American, as do the remnants of the missile...
Which video. There is indeed one that shows a NASAM and another one that shows a KH-101. Same flight path.
Where's the remnants? How do you verify where those photos were taken? There's no "clearly" about anything regarding this incident.
Reminds me of the report of the Russians dropping a missile in Poland, which got changed to it being a Ukraine intercepter missile that went off course.
When I looked at the photos of the damage, it was a shaft into which corn was being dumped. The explosion was right on top of that shaft.
It was a grain elevator explosion. No way you'll ever convince me otherwise.
LOL
Really doesn't matter who did what anymore. It all comes down to whose side you're on. I know which side my 🍞 is buttered.
I respectfully disagree. I think it does matter who did what, because to throw one's hands up and say "who knows" lets Ukraine off the hook for all kinds of well-documented horrors, while assuming that the accusations against Russia are *probably* true because Ukraine makes so many of them, even though looking into any one in detail leads to nothing but dead ends
The hypocrisy is staggering.
NATO gathering today? Very convenient.
indeed, some discern a pattern. most ukrainians should in the mean know that it's time to hit the cellars and avoid public places when their prez goes out to beg.
IsraHell made impossible to condemn anyone who bombs, attacks, hit hospitals or civilians infrastructures killing hundreds of kids, women, elderly and civilian men. IsraHell gave the green light to any war crimes on innocent civilians because of the nonchalant attitude of the West not to block stop halt sanction the genocidal IOF and zions motherf@ckers.
Actually, Israel is largely just copying the US/UK playbook on dealing with so-called "insurgencies", aka "Freedom fighters who want the occupiers to fuck the fuck off".
What Israel did and is doing to Gaza is just a little more refined than what the USA did to Fallujah, fx.
What we are witnessing is Western Imperialism, and not even at its bloodiest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtBKDMN2U4s
The hypocrisy is staggering
What a difference a country makes, eh? If it's the country the USA supports, it's OK to bomb children and hospitals. But if a children's hospital in Ukraine is bombed, it's immediately blamed on Russia, which is then painted as being immoral.
Which is it? Is it OK to bomb children and hospitals or not?
The reality is that the Empire Managers do not really care about children anywhere (including in the US). The Empire Managers don't work on any framework of morality (AFAIK).
The nightmare that is happening in Gaza is heartbreaking, but perhaps it is the nightmare that will snap the rest of the world awake, to reject the propaganda of politicians, despots and thugs. This is the one hope I hold onto.
But sadly it won't.
This our world is inhabited by too many abhorrent and hypocritical individuals which go by the name ‚politicians‘ or ‚ruling class‘.
If any of these figures get reelected next time round, then this world better be devastated completely and utterly.
The thief Zelensky hasnt got to worry about being reelected because he's banned all elections,all political parties and all free speech,all the things that we are supposedly fighting so Ukraine can keep,oh my mistake,WE are not fighting at all are we. We are just sympathetic bystanders taking a completely uninvolved passive interest and helping out a bit with supplying the odd bit of military hardware,just to keep the pot on the boil.
We are literally living inside the fable: The Emperor Has No Clothes. We just have to gather enough voices to call this out. The US is an illegitimate kakistocracy. If you are remotely awake, you never accept the statements of the US or their vassal states at face value.
These shameless Western hypocrites are so outraged about the bombing of the children's hospital in Kyiv (without knowing, I might add, the exact details) not because they give a shit about dead children as their deafening silence about Israel's deliberate destruction of Gaza's healthcare system and the targeting of children has proven; it's because this convenient incident gives them an opportunity to ride into Washington on their moral high horses! There had better be a whole battalion of bulldozers lined up outside the doors of the NATO summit to clear away the torrents of bull shit!
A similar thing happened on the eve of NATO's summit in Vilnius. A market in Eastern Ukraine was hit by a missile that caused mass casualties, and the West Press immediately blamed Russia, even though it was later determined that it was a Ukrainian missile. Between Gaza and Ukraine, the double standard is standard in the West.
It's truly sad that the pro-Ukrainian propaganda is allowed to flourish in the Western Media. The missile that hit a hospital in Ukraine was not shot by the Russians. It was fired by the Ukrainians. It was either an accident or an attempt at a false flag event. The Russians have denied any involvement and the trajectory of the missile is evidence of a Ukrainian territory launch.
" Western leaders are responding very, very differently to this news than they have been to deliberate Israeli attacks on hospitals throughout the Gaza Strip."
It's like we all fell down the rabbit's hole along with Alice and ended up in a sick-and-twisted version of Wonderland. It's a surreal place where Western nations can supply a plethora of bombs and arms to destroy hospitals and health clinics and mass murder thousands in Gaza, but those very same nations (who openly supply bombs and arms to Ukraine) are "shocked" whenever the Ukrainians wind up possibly bombing their own hospital because they started a civil war against their ethnic Russian citizens in 2014...
Please pinch me I must be hallucinating. Destroying ANY HOSPITAL is wrong and against the UN's Human Rights declaration these Western nations all signed. Why can't Biden and his gang of thugs remember things like that. SIGH.
It's a very sick country we're living in right now Revolution. And very dangerous to the world. :(
You can say that again. SIGH.
I find it hard to believe that these heads of state and otherwise cannot see the blatant hypocrisy of the statements that they are making about Russia bombing the children's hospital and their great outrage, when they had so little to say about Israelis deliberately bombing hospitals, repeatedly, and destroying the infrastructure in Gaza. Can they not see how they look to the rest of the world? They look ridiculous and stupid to think that normal people fail to conclude that they are sycophants of Israel and want to destroy Russia to the point where she no longer represents a threat to them. It is disgusting and evil.
It is comprensible. The only supremacy left to the pseudo empire and its acolytes is propaganda.