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We've been at war for most of the 21st century. We've killed millions, and displaced millions more, as we destroyed whole countries. Those middle eastern countries were the tip of the iceberg and now we're ready for the big boys, China and Russia. In fighting Russia, Ukrainians have become our sacrificial lambs, and no doubt the Taiwanese will be as well. We kill not only to feed the war machine, but it's our biggest push toward world control, hoping we'll become the world's sole super power. While America is caught up in wokism crap, that is constantly on display, yes, so sensitive to the sexual identification of others, as well as racial issues which many have bought into, but we rarely reference the contradiction that we are little more then serial killers on a grand scale who have little regard for the lives of others..

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Fran's avatar

Me too, but it seems few hold Obama accountable for the wars and the Ukrainian coup that occurred during his administration which is a mystery to me. It's not only the coup, but our continued dirty war in Syria that got underway during his presidency, as well as the overthrow of Gaddafi, since we were afraid he was getting too big for his boots. Obama did set the stage for what is happening now, yet his role in any of it is greatly diminished, like, well, he didn't send weapons to Ukraine, but Trump did. Basically he supported the most violent element, in that coup, the neo-nazi's, who played an active role in overturning a pro-Russian government. They thrived under the new leadership and took a stronger more violent stance along with the military militias which were established and assigned to take care of those ethnic Russians in the Donbass, and like Merkel said those Minsk accords were BS, and of course Obama knew it. Yeah I hold him accountable. Just coincidence, no war in Ukraine, until Biden gets in? I'm sure it would have happened sooner if Clinton had won the 2016 election, but Trump did, but he became a bridge to continue the hostilities with the Russia-gate hoax.

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Jeano's avatar

Oblahma is Teflon because a) he’s pretty and 2) his wife is prettier. ‘Muricons like pretty.

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Fran's avatar

Also, I think because he is our first black president people have been reluctant to be critical him. I voted for him the first time and thought he would be more sensitive to injustice, but he wasn't. A black man who worked with him in Chicago politics wrote an article in the Progressive warning people he was no progressive and he was right. Did't want to believe him. The only one I've heard come out loud and clear and say he wasn't a progressive was Jimmy Dore.

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Fran's avatar

Thanks, too often I don't get a thumbs up when I talk negative about Obama. I simply feel that most who write about him tend to emphasize the positive, and avoid the negative. By casting him in a positive light when he doesn't deserve it, negates those that have been harmed, or killed by his decisions. Droning popped into my head. Best not to define oneself, because too often it pushes you into a corner where you can easily loose perspective.

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Fran's avatar

I also became an independent, and thanks.

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Dollyboy's avatar

America isn't going to war with China. America is getting Australia ready to go to war with China.

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david wong's avatar

America is getting Japan to go to war with China.

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Georgia Steel's avatar

Just like they are using Ukraine to fight Russia.

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Feral Finster's avatar

The last time Chinese troops went into combat outside China was 1979.

Compare the track record of the famously peace-loving United States and its faithful simpleton Australian companion since that time.

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Contrarian 33's avatar

How natural it would be to take offence at the “simpleton “ comment above if you were an Australian. However, can I add to that a “vassal state”, a "subservient bag carrier”, a “stooge,” any one of which applies to this now very foolish and weak country. We are no better than any of the NATO stooges.

Australia has spent most of its life until 1945 fulfilling the same role for the British so it has been relatively easy to change horses at the end of WWII and become an American errand boy.

So no offence taken, Feral Finster.

It is the nature of the beast so it seems. We elected a new government from the US subservient Liberal party in April 2022 only to end up with a US subservient Labor government in 2023. Both tarred with the same brush. The foolish notion that US hegemonic war events in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and a generated antagonism towards China thanks to the US influence, is in our interests in any way at all, remains a total mystery to the citizens of this now feeble country.

We have also allowed (probably encouraged) B-52 bombers, US of course, to be based in our northern states, spy bases in Western Australia and a military base in Darwin. Mind you, we are not allowed to know if they will be carrying nuclear weapons or not. “Mind you own business, Australia, this is our ball game. So shut up! Do what you’re told. You are just part of our 850 bases worldwide so lie back and enjoy it.”

China was the very basis for all or exports for years. The relationship was a good mutual arrangement as most of the people in this country respected the fact that China had dragged itself up from a peasant society after WWII to become our leading export market. All coming to an end with many of the items once from Australia now being picked up by US subsidiaries, as is also the case in Europe after the US attack on the Nordstream 2 pipeline.

Then to top it off, we have the likes of Murdoch, (once Australian, now a respected US citizen of Fox fame) and his media whores outdoing the early days of Germany’s Third Reich with media propaganda as we have seen this week. Joseph Goebbels creative efforts pale by comparison.

So the future is dismal indeed. Australia now just another NATO puppet, part of the hegemonic US wars for world power,….forever.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I lifted the line "faithful simpleton companion" from the movie "Jingle All The Way".

I could use a similar descriptor for most Americans and Europeans as well, along with words like "catamite", "dumbass" and "little bitch".

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Contrarian 33's avatar

It is appropriate and colourful. Thanks for the other suggestions but I'll stick with your original.

The Cambridge dictionary states 'Stupid and silly people'. It also fits as history is bound to show us all , sadly.

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Jeano's avatar

Excellent comment. Thank you.

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Basil Rathbone's avatar

Propagandized China haters, like their counterparts, Russia haters, will simply say China has been keeping its powder dry for the Big Push against the West, since we all know it's been hellbent on unipolar totalitarian world control for a hundred years. The innocent and in no way hypocritical US has simply been trying to assure itself of maintaining a defensive posture and yada yada.

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Feral Finster's avatar

If you start with your conclusion and then fit the evidence to that conclusion, you can "prove" anything.

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Third-Eye Roll's avatar

Propaganda 101.

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

Australia is in a particularly vulnerable position geographically speaking in a possible war with China. Have they not learned anything from the US fuelled Ukraine/Russia confrontation? What would it take to convince them any association with the US will be in the interests of the US? Are there any historical examples to the opposite?

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david wong's avatar

Perhaps China should increase its military spending in case Australia invades China. Silly isn’t it ?

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david wong's avatar

Exactly, Australia spending more on the Military Industrial Complex will be in the interest of the US. Propaganda from Murdoch and the Australian Strategic Planning Institute aims to manufacture consent for Australia to spend billions on the MIC. That’s all.

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

So wrong headed, so very sad: these mad politicians should be turfed out. What's in it for them - kickbacks ?

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Feral Finster's avatar

They get the approval of The People Who Matter. If they didn't get that approval, they wouldn't be where they are today.

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Le Chat Noir's avatar

Kickbacks, and possibly blackmail if l they don’t do their bidding

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

That's what Whitney Webb argues, and it's pretty convincing. I could name a head of state whose outlook and behaviour has done a 180 in office. Blackmail is the new secret weapon. Confessions of an Economic Hitman (John Perkins) was a reliable indication of society's steady progress towards fascism- and the jackboots have never really left the scene. Now it's turned inward, as well. Canada (small obliging country) is increasing healthcare payments by $50 billion a year for 10 years, with no strings. Definitely a gift to health care profiteers, bandits in suits, courtesy of the struggling middle class.

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Jeano's avatar

I know this is “conspiracy thinking” but I’ve always wondered what became of all the evidence from Jeffrey Epstein’s porn and sex slavery empire and how many of todays rubbery spined pols were/are caught up in it.

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david wong's avatar

Yes kickbacks, many politicians are in the pockets of the MIC.

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J Taff's avatar

No I believe that they just want to keep their jobs/positions and not get hurt. Mafia stuff. They can be replaced in a jiffy.

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Jeano's avatar

I sorta think that as long as the dollar is THE reserve currency, nations will kowtow to our (insane) foreign policy.

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david wong's avatar

As long as politicians are in the pockets of the military industrial complex, there will be endless wars.

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Kun Bela's avatar

I was born in a country occupied by the Soviet Union and spent most of my life there, although since then I have traveled the world quite a few times, most of my family are US and Canadian citizens. So I have "some" idea about state propaganda ! But I have to note that until 1989 I believed that the Bolshevik propaganda could not be surpassed, but what I have experienced since then has superseded this. What is currently going on in Western countries that lied to be "free" is total Bolshevik-type brainwashing, which I think is being led by Bolshevik propagandists who escaped to the West when Putin came to power, with the full support of Western banking capital. It's terrifying to see that seemingly smart Westerners foam at the mouth when we get into an argument in a "friendly" circle ! Brainwashing works, my senses refined in the communist dictatorship indicate this ! Not to mention that the western (by this I mean all developed, North American, European, Australian and New Zealand) citizens have become comfortable, they believe that God only smiles on them and that the life of luxury will last forever and ever, well no ! The fool doesn't notice that he is sitting like a frog in a pot of warm water and Klaus Schwab and Soros and his evil companions are slowly heating the water under him until it boils. The awakening will be shocking and bitter !

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

You should be writing about this, because you have an unusual experience that gives you credibility.

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Boris Petrov's avatar

The anti-China enthusiasm might deflate after Russian victory over Nazi-dominated government of Ukraine.

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flipshod's avatar

That does seem to be the most plausible route to general peace.

And oddly, it might be that Republicans use impending war with China as the reason for cutting off aid to Ukraine, which in turn causes the loss to be so complete, that the US public loses faith in the neocons. (for how long we don't know).

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Jeano's avatar

Wow!!!! This is a great idea!!! Talk about lemonade from lemons!!!

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CarbonCopy's avatar

Biden and son have gotten the cover up of their criminal activities in Ukraine and please do remember Hunter had then some activities done in China. If only the criminal activity could come to light then maybe there could be hope. But criminals never give over criminals without some force or proper payment!

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Jeano's avatar

Hahahahaha!!!! From your lips to god’s ear!!!

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Ian Brown's avatar

I remember driving around Victoria on a visit in 2018, and thinking how nice most people in Australia have it compared to the US (aboriginal peoples excluded), and then on the radio comes Malcom Turnbull talking about how the best way to create new Australian jobs is to start building weapons. Then I thought "All this, you're going to lose it,".

It also worried me given how the CBDs of most of Australia's large cities seemed heavily populated by Chinese immigrants that there was some kind of hysteria about Chinese people being spies, students being spies etc. It seemed obviously manufactured in the warm up for what is now unfolding, and I really worry about what is happening, and what will happen to all those people.

Unless the slightly dark horse of US incompetence thwarts war, and the very dark horse of Australia pulling itself out of this madness, pull ahead, I can't help but think of what a waste it will be, how much Australia had and throws away. I guess not too dissimilar to European countries giving up their quality of life and welfare state to fuel and an unnecessary and easily avoided war.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

These people will become cannon fodder for the US War Machine. All the while this filth sits back and once again uses the people and resources of another country to make a huge profit. Since the US won't have any dirt in the fight the people here will chug along business as usual. Horrifying to say the least.

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Philanthropy Poketwanus's avatar

Seriously, why do the elites want to start WWIII? Do they even know? If not then what? Archons?

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TnDoc's avatar

Excellent post, CJ. It is so very sad to see Oz kow-tow to the worst terrorist country on the planet - my own, US. Appreciate your voice very much. Stand strong. If Australians have a death wish, then be sure and sign up with Team USA. We are led by literal psychopaths and they will destroy any and all who join them in their madness. Sadly, I believe that most inhabitants of the "5 Eyes" cabal are thoroughly captured and will blindly follow the idiots in DC and London into the abyss... Tragic.

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Jeano's avatar

Excellent comment.

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Nostradamus's avatar

Today, the Global Predators are fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Tomorrow, they'll be fighting China to the last Australian.

The perceptions management budget is used to pay consent manufacturers ($1.2billion per year in the US alone!).

Unfortunately, most Australians won't be around 5 years from now because 90+% of them have been injected with the Covid-19 "Emergency experimental medical countermeasures" and millions have developed VAIDS (vaccine acquired immune deficiency syndrome) as evidenced by the negative "vaccine" efficacy.

Murdoch is not the problem, Australians are. They're the ones who expose their subconscious minds to the masters of the universe.

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Kun Bela's avatar

Thanks Mary! I have quite a lot of experience, as I am the son of a Hungarian freedom fighter who was wanted to be killed by the Bolsheviks in 1956, but escaped to the west on an adventurous journey and lived the life of an exile in Canada until his death. While me and my mother was captured as a hostage ,the dictatorship treated me like a beaten dog, but I never broke, but I hardened myself and was never afraid to speak my mind. And now I see with an aching heart how the people of the West are being deceived and are slowly being squeezed over them step by step. But while they live in prosperity compared to other peoples, they foolishly think that it will always be like this, but I can tell you now that their children won't have it either!

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Jeano's avatar

Thank you Bela. It’s this incredible prosperity we have in the West that has made us docile, compliant, afraid of our shadows, and ready to let our government do ANYTHING that will protect our lily-white selves (we do NOT want black people included in this, nor Arabs nor Asians. And forget about people from the global south.) from the consequences of our free and easy, extractive, exploitative, consumerist, ignorant paxalled lifestyle. The US population is now the Marie Antoinette of democracy.

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Kun Bela's avatar

Dear Jean ! Thank you for reading my bitter words ! Since I know both worlds well, especially since most of my family lives there, I am interested in doing as much as possible to at least warn you! Although I think that if someone lives in a softened society, where you can get practically anything immediately with a loan, moreover, the government takes care to ensure that the majority of the population has a relatively low level of education, since an educated and intelligent citizen who learns lessons from history is not desirable in today's Western society. I meant it not as an insult, but I know it from the school children of my own family living in the USA. If I look at how many foreign languages the average person in the USA knows, and if I ask who Cicero was, or Demosthenes, but it's enough to ask if he can recite poems that even his grandfather knew from famous poets, the picture is shocking ! However, the uneducated masses who do not recognize the historical connections and parallels are easy to drive under the machine of Dr. Joseph Ignace Guillottin, like an obedient Maria Antoinette (who was a Hungarian royal princess anyway) !

As V.I.Lenin once said, "The movement needs useful idiots !" Be careful guys , that wasn' t a humorous poem ! Well, don't be afraid, I'm not a communist to quote from Lenin, on the contrary, I'm the son of a freedom fighter who likes to know his enemy !

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Jeano's avatar

Thank you Belated, great comment. And never worry about being insulting—considering what we’ve done to this world, insult should be the least if our worries. I do want to add one thought to your thoughts tho—I know that Americans are as dumb as a box of hair, but really, if you look at the past 50 years, it’s the “smartest men in the room” that got us here. Plus, West Point grads—the boys who chase after the medals that a good little war will get them—are very well educated, especially in history. The Gallic Wars, the Punic Wars, Napoleon’s wars, Hitler’s wars (and propaganda) etc etc etc. So I’m not so convinced that it’s smart people who avoid wars. And if you look at admirable revolutions over the centuries, it’s Ghandi who lead a bunch of marginalized, uneducated servant class people to passively aggress against a huge empire and get rid of them. It was Dr. King who lead marginalized, poorly educated, oppressed people against the richest most corrupt country in the world and forced concessions from it that allowed black to get a little equity. So I’m not overly optimistic about an educated class being brave and just and fair and smart. I have my own ideas about how to achieve a fair and just society but they are long and very unorthodox, but they begin with undermining the Patriarchy at every opportunity, as in Lysistrata for instance! 😁🤭. And I see it in the young. It’s not a revolution, it’s an evolution and every awful thing in the world appears to be cooperating with that goal. Compassion is the best response, coupled with cooperation. And opps, there goes another $50 billion fighter jet that can’t fly, can’t be repaired and us the corner stone of America’s future “defense”. Ya kinda gotta laugh.

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Jeano's avatar

Not Belated!!! Bela! I hate spellcheck!

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

But Caitlin, we have always been at war with Eastasia! That line comes from 1984, but I want to recommend another old sci-fi pair of novels, for a sardonic look at PR: Kornbluth and Perl's Space Merchants and Merchants' War, collectively Venus Inc.

Also want to point out a minor insult that comes with the major injury these bastards hope to do to Australia--the tawdry, WW I-level crudenss of this propaganda suggests that those wielding it think Australians are idiots.

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LizC's avatar

I think plenty of Australians are idiots (albeit well-meaning) and, as Caitlin points out, easily propagandised. The covid narrative was believed by the majority of people and the national broadcaster is most definitely not on the side of the people, but not enough of us seem to realise.

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Eric Schechter's avatar

Caitlin, your nearly-last words were "all to please a dark god known as unipolarism." I suspect that it would be at least as truthful to say instead "all to please a dark god known as making the rich richer." If we look into Murdoch's sources of income, will we find big investments in Boeing, Raytheon, etc.?

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Society's Stinky Parts's avatar

Money is just a signaling mechanism. We are taught to fetishize it and treat it as if it were a source of value. Actual elites aren't ruled by it. Actual elites are just containers in which the conditions of labor are sequestered away from labor itself, to preserve the order in which some aristocratic classes can monopolize leisure and externalize their petty discomforts onto servants.

But they want us to chase the money because it encourages us to measure ourselves by the wages they set for us.

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Jeano's avatar

I think actually it’s power that is the aphrodisiac here. You can only spend, eat, own, drive, etc so much money. It’s power that gets them off and always has been.

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DomeLord's avatar

Murdoch is cancer personified.

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malty mcfry's avatar

Brzezinski rolling in his grave “no no no you’re doing the imperialism all wrong” starting nuclear war with the two near peers at once

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William Paul's avatar

Well, Australia has strict gun control, which probably enabled your tyrannical government to beat average citizens in the streets when they resisted the lockdowns, which did nothing to stop covid, but did everything to prove who is a compliant, easily propagandized sheep.

People need lessons in courage.

Australians need guns.

I hope the vaccine isn't killing Australians at the same rate it is killing people across the world.

I hope you can stop supporting war, and Biden, who really is just a sock puppet.

God bless you. I really felt for you when I saw all those videos of Australian armed thugs beating the disarmed population. I will sincerely keep praying for you.

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