"What stance has the “civilised” West adopted? If you are democrats, you are supposed to welcome the natural desire for freedom expressed by billions of people, but no. The West is calling it undermining the liberal rules-based order. It is resorting to economic and trade wars, sanctions, boycotts and colour revolutions, and preparing and carrying out all sorts of coups.
"One of them led to tragic consequences in Ukraine in 2014. They supported it and even specified the amount of money they had spent on this coup. They have the cheek to act as they please and have no scruples about anything they do. They killed Soleimani, an Iranian general. You can think whatever you want about Soleimani, but he was a foreign state official. They killed him in a third country and assumed responsibility. What is that supposed to mean, for crying out loud? What kind of world are we living in?
"As is customary, Washington continues to refer to the current international order as liberal American-style, but in fact, this notorious “order” is multiplying chaos every day and, I might even add, is becoming increasingly intolerant even towards the Western countries and their attempts to act independently. Everything is nipped in the bud, and they do not even hesitate to impose sanctions on their allies, who lower their heads in acquiescence.
"For example, the Hungarian MPs’ July proposals to codify the commitment to European Christian values and culture in the Treaty on European Union were taken not even as an affront, but as an outright and hostile act of sabotage. What is that? What does it mean? Indeed, some people may like it, some not.
"Over a thousand years, Russia has developed a unique culture of interaction between all world religions. There is no need to cancel anything, be it Christian values, Islamic values or Jewish values. We have other world religions as well. All you need to do is respect each other. In a number of our regions – I just know this firsthand – people celebrate Christian, Islamic, Buddhist and Jewish holidays together, and they enjoy doing so as they congratulate each other and are happy for each other."
Like him or hate him, he's got a point. Demonizing him only leads to WWIII. The West has been captured by rigid ideologues who pretend to believe in democracy. That's why I'm voting for all oppositional candidates, even if the voting is rigged.
Thanks for the Putin quote.... he also said that the Rule of Law is something that nobody seems to fully understand or obey. He asked where these rules are written and by whom?
Demonizing him leads directly to a bamboozled electorate that is feckless and frightened. Scott Ritter recently wrote about the Rules-based Order, and the Law-based Order that both Russia and China support.
I have published two articles on this topic. The first is pure reportage and contains links to the official transcript of the speech and following Q&A session together with the Valdai Club produced video and live English translation. The second article is a protest on the lack of coverage of this significant political speech. Here's a link to the reportage:
Russian Federation President Putin Addresses the Valdai Club: A Transition is Declared
Putin of course makes some very salient points and I am loathe to criticise him or the Kremlin who have behaved with considerable restraint when dealing with the hawks of Washington but Russia has been persecuting religious minorities particularly Jehovah's Witnesses in recent years; Banning their religion, their literature (the first app banned in Russia was jw.org) seizing their property illegally, imprisoning and even resorting to torturing some of them. These actions only play into the narrative of the western agencies that seek to justify their demonisation of Putin.
Putin is NOT the enemy. It is our own Ruling Elite in the West. - Amerika, Inc., and the obsolete aircraft carrier it controls, the SS UK (AKA, the SS Poodle).
Suveys by non-Russian independent polling organisations inform us that this "dictator" who is elected by popular vote has around 80% support. The dictator, also electected by popular vote in Washington is struggling for half of that. This is actually irrelevant.
Putin is the executive head of a nuclear armed world power. I merely suggest that we should listen to his words to understand what he is saying. Your declaration that he is lying implies that you have not listened and thus have no understanding. I suggest that the world is better served by engagement, listening and compassion than stereotyping, declarations of a position in an "us or them" dialective, or other "fingers in my ears" approaches to international diplomacy.
"I suggest that the world is better served by engagement, listening and compassion than stereotyping, declarations of a position in an "us or them" dialective, or other "fingers in my ears" approaches to international diplomacy"
Like you know all about what is going on in Ukraine and Putin's head...... all you know is tabloid sensationalised propaganda. Putin is not a dictator, no matter how much spin you swallow from your tell-lie-vision.
He's just talking about the "cancel culture" in the west, the fake LGBTQ threat he made up to spook the russians. Nothing more than typical conservative right wing talk points.
"Achieving US objectives" is one of the scariest most murderous phases I have ever heard. As in "Ms. Albright, how about the deaths of those Iraqi children due to sanctions?" - Answer - "it was worth it". Because the US achieved its objectives.
It might even be worse than we think. As Scott Ritter pointed out in a conversation with Richard Medhurst, the comparison with the Cuban missile crisis only goes so far. Back then, Russia's nuclear arsenal was paltry and thought to be at least somewhat unreliable. Nuclear war would have been horrible but not necessarily a doomsday for humanity and the biosphere. Little chance of that with today's nuclear-weapons capabilities. It's truly sad that so many folks seem inured to the likelihood that such a current day scenario entails a journey of no return.
Not only that, but an appalling number of Americans seem to think that Russia backed down, that the US "won" that incident, when in reality the US backed down and removed its nukes from Turkey, and asked Khrushchev to keep that part quiet, so as to not let the US/JFK look "weak". This perpetuated the successful bullying myth. IMO.
"It will be the result of specific choices made by the managers of empire. It will be the result of the US choosing escalation over de-escalation, brinkmanship over detente — not just once but over and over again, while declining off-ramp after off-ramp."
Your first sentence above is accurate. The rest is US-centric hubris.
The managers of empire do not respect nations and claim no nationality. Their objectives are to enforce a totalitarian regime globally. The US is as much a target for demolition as any other nation on earth.
So many people fail to acknowledge the globalist predator class, aka the Black Nobility, believing some cock and bull story about US hegemony which they read in the owned media.
The US military always fail to deliver victory because that is not their purpose.
They are engaged, by the Black Nobs, to perpetuate war and depopulation.
Oh..... and the US citizens are to pay for it via their taxes.
American egos are incapable of recognising the truth of their subservience and slavery, so my words will undoubtedly be ignored as always.
The Black Nobility want a war with Russia and China. They have planned for this for many decades but the planners are not in Washington or London or even the Vatican. They are scattered all over the world on superyachts, in bunkers and castles, bristling with hi-tech security.
Nationless and ruthless. These are the true rulers of the world.
66 - interesting choice. Not 65, not 67, had to be 66. They would prefer 666 but that would definitely be too long for even their most obedient brown-nosers to swallow.
We have to expel these people from public life. Medea Benjamin is the model. It has to become culturally, and eventually legally, unacceptable (that is, it must be criminal), for people in public positions to pursue these aims to any degree.
It's also important to note that unlike the first two world wars from which North America emerged relatively undamaged, even if no nuclear weapons are used, any 3rd such conflict would result in serious death and destruction to any western hemisphere combatant nations. It's rather amazing that so many people just go merrily about their days as if nothing is amiss, completely oblivious to the looming shitstorm.
I would like to inform everyone of what has been going on and where it is likely to lead without a change in course but it seems like trying to swim against a raging current of propaganda and being viewed as some kind of lunatic by all others who merrily drift along on the current in their comfortable and seemingly sturdy boats towards a 200 meter waterfall.
I don’t think this mentality has currency without the incessant urging and prognostications from charlatan preachers who think they have a direct line of communication with their deity. It engenders hubris, and it infects every corner of life in America. It confers an arrogance and it is what ails us.
I'd get worried if I actually believed comments like the general's. But I don't. I regard them as salvos in the information war designed to intimidate the other side and rally our side. Behind the propaganda perpetually spewed at us is the stark inescapable fact that Russia is defeating Ukraine. Even with 10s of thousands of Polish, Rumanian, and other NATO mercenary battalions fighting on the Ukrainian side with Ukrainian insignia to make up for the Ukraine military's egregious losses, the Russians continue grinding through men and material while at the same time destroying the infrastructure on which what's left of the Ukrainian economy depends. Once the Russian reinforcements are through training and introduced into the battle, the outcome to which the war is heading will become obvious to all, so that, by spring, Ukraine's utter defeat will be undisguisable. Since our side knows that, they are escalating the rhetoric to new intensity, to get Russians and countries friendly to Russia like India and China to pressure Putin and his team to cut the kind of deal that allows the West to pretend they won, or at least didn't lose, thereby hiding the shame of a humiliation many-fold greater than Afghanistan. We need to keep calm; the best recipe is to stop subjecting oneself to the media manipulation by watching no MSM news or public affairs and focusing on reruns of Law and Order, CSI, and such like. That's the route to mental health: confine one's reading and viewing to the past. If one still feels one needs to know what's going on today, find sources you've never heard of before, sift through them, and stick with the more serious ones.
I seriously don’t think Putin has any interest in kicking the can down the road. He’s been years trying to hammer out an agreement that respects everyone’s security concerns. His actions in Ukraine have all been according to Washington’s calendar. He will go home when there’s no chance of NATO gun batteries poised to level the Kremlin. And he will probably occupy Ukraine indefinitely if the country’s infrastructure is destroyed.
The US has always had it both ways: it doesn't know what the hell it's doing - and - it's all-knowing.
You don't give sharp knives to stumble-bums, much less nukes, so let's hear the narrative again, formally: what the hell was the US doing in Iraq that justified killing, first, a half million very young children, along no doubt, with quite a few of their parents, friends and neighbours, and what was the existentially essential motive 13 years later for mopping up on the rest of the civilian population? What vital business did it have in Libya that if had to destroy it and its leader, and condemn its black workers to enslavement? And soooo much more.
Without addressing it, but evident in his remarks, Charles is in line with Russia and China, and squarely out of sync with his hellbent cousins over the pond.
The entire charade is about taxation, power and money. Nothing more. And this applies to the other side as well. Big fat egg heads who want more of the pie.
We can't deny that China and Russia aren't playing the same game. People just get caught up in their side.
China is pushing an agenda as is Russia.
They aren't going to blow up the world. They live in it too.
When they can't sell us this shit any longer, an 11th hour hero will be created to negotiate or come up with a new invention, like a vaccine.
And they will all get richer.
The media "tools" provide information to create fear. Alien invasion? Well, we need a space force. Chinese invasion? We need nukes, ships, planes, and on and on.
Obsolete equipment. Give it to a third world country so we can get new shit.
Use fear to buy new stuff.
The biggest joke. Blow up an asteroid to knock it off course. That is impossible to predict. There is no possible way of knowing specific densities of different objects coming at us at 20000 km/hr. Simple mathematics. They could actually make it worse. It is a 50 50.
When we realize this we simply stop worrying about any of this crap.
They made us afraid of a bad cold. The lie is catching up to them.
My solution. Ask them what they want. Then give it to them with the caveat, they can't ask again.
I liked the GOT metaphor when Vanerys wanted his golden crown and he got it.
It is so increasingly obvious that those in the USA, waiting patiently for elections that either may never be fully realized - or which will be thoroughly skewed to fit the program by the variety of tools available in the totalitarian, anti-election tool boxes - could easily come too late or be too mangled to rely on. The International scheme relies heavily on the role the US plays as one of the lead planetary, death-dealing War Profiteers. The scheme to rule the world is ancient and far more enormous and complicated than one nation. These people are sick as we may imagine on all fronts.
From Putin's recent speech in the last two weeks:
"What stance has the “civilised” West adopted? If you are democrats, you are supposed to welcome the natural desire for freedom expressed by billions of people, but no. The West is calling it undermining the liberal rules-based order. It is resorting to economic and trade wars, sanctions, boycotts and colour revolutions, and preparing and carrying out all sorts of coups.
"One of them led to tragic consequences in Ukraine in 2014. They supported it and even specified the amount of money they had spent on this coup. They have the cheek to act as they please and have no scruples about anything they do. They killed Soleimani, an Iranian general. You can think whatever you want about Soleimani, but he was a foreign state official. They killed him in a third country and assumed responsibility. What is that supposed to mean, for crying out loud? What kind of world are we living in?
"As is customary, Washington continues to refer to the current international order as liberal American-style, but in fact, this notorious “order” is multiplying chaos every day and, I might even add, is becoming increasingly intolerant even towards the Western countries and their attempts to act independently. Everything is nipped in the bud, and they do not even hesitate to impose sanctions on their allies, who lower their heads in acquiescence.
"For example, the Hungarian MPs’ July proposals to codify the commitment to European Christian values and culture in the Treaty on European Union were taken not even as an affront, but as an outright and hostile act of sabotage. What is that? What does it mean? Indeed, some people may like it, some not.
"Over a thousand years, Russia has developed a unique culture of interaction between all world religions. There is no need to cancel anything, be it Christian values, Islamic values or Jewish values. We have other world religions as well. All you need to do is respect each other. In a number of our regions – I just know this firsthand – people celebrate Christian, Islamic, Buddhist and Jewish holidays together, and they enjoy doing so as they congratulate each other and are happy for each other."
Like him or hate him, he's got a point. Demonizing him only leads to WWIII. The West has been captured by rigid ideologues who pretend to believe in democracy. That's why I'm voting for all oppositional candidates, even if the voting is rigged.
And you won't read one word of that in US media.
Thanks for the Putin quote.... he also said that the Rule of Law is something that nobody seems to fully understand or obey. He asked where these rules are written and by whom?
I can throw some light on the Rule of Law:
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/what-does-the-rule-of-law-mean
and it does not make comfortable reading!
Demonizing him leads directly to a bamboozled electorate that is feckless and frightened. Scott Ritter recently wrote about the Rules-based Order, and the Law-based Order that both Russia and China support.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/11/03/scott-ritter-a-dangerous-bloody-dirty-game/?unapproved=444026&moderation-hash=c0c97ad2c80f0b98ea6b3e25d09068eb#comment-444026
Some interesting observations https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/08/29/why-us-hegemony-is-incompatible-with-a-rules-based-international-order/
I have published two articles on this topic. The first is pure reportage and contains links to the official transcript of the speech and following Q&A session together with the Valdai Club produced video and live English translation. The second article is a protest on the lack of coverage of this significant political speech. Here's a link to the reportage:
Russian Federation President Putin Addresses the Valdai Club: A Transition is Declared
https://yesxorno.substack.com/p/russian-federation-president-putin
Putin of course makes some very salient points and I am loathe to criticise him or the Kremlin who have behaved with considerable restraint when dealing with the hawks of Washington but Russia has been persecuting religious minorities particularly Jehovah's Witnesses in recent years; Banning their religion, their literature (the first app banned in Russia was jw.org) seizing their property illegally, imprisoning and even resorting to torturing some of them. These actions only play into the narrative of the western agencies that seek to justify their demonisation of Putin.
Putin is NOT the enemy. It is our own Ruling Elite in the West. - Amerika, Inc., and the obsolete aircraft carrier it controls, the SS UK (AKA, the SS Poodle).
Putin, like any other dictator, will say whatever he wants. He's lying, and his actions in Ukraine prove his lies.
Mark,
Suveys by non-Russian independent polling organisations inform us that this "dictator" who is elected by popular vote has around 80% support. The dictator, also electected by popular vote in Washington is struggling for half of that. This is actually irrelevant.
Putin is the executive head of a nuclear armed world power. I merely suggest that we should listen to his words to understand what he is saying. Your declaration that he is lying implies that you have not listened and thus have no understanding. I suggest that the world is better served by engagement, listening and compassion than stereotyping, declarations of a position in an "us or them" dialective, or other "fingers in my ears" approaches to international diplomacy.
To summarize: grow up.
"I suggest that the world is better served by engagement, listening and compassion than stereotyping, declarations of a position in an "us or them" dialective, or other "fingers in my ears" approaches to international diplomacy"
Tell that to putin first.
I tried, but his secretary is most insistent that he's busy.
No, fuck putin. Death to eastern imperialism. The people of the world will win and you will cry like a little bitch like you are when that happens.
Like you know all about what is going on in Ukraine and Putin's head...... all you know is tabloid sensationalised propaganda. Putin is not a dictator, no matter how much spin you swallow from your tell-lie-vision.
He's just talking about the "cancel culture" in the west, the fake LGBTQ threat he made up to spook the russians. Nothing more than typical conservative right wing talk points.
The plain truth is that if the Western hegemony cannot own it all, then nobody will survive to own anything.
Like a nuclear-armed spoiled brat.
Toddlers
cum WMDs.
Nah, the Eastern hegmoney cannot own it all. The west will force the world to be better and you will watch while crying.
I think that mentality has been in place since the Mayflower and Jamestown. God’s very own.
"Achieving US objectives" is one of the scariest most murderous phases I have ever heard. As in "Ms. Albright, how about the deaths of those Iraqi children due to sanctions?" - Answer - "it was worth it". Because the US achieved its objectives.
It might even be worse than we think. As Scott Ritter pointed out in a conversation with Richard Medhurst, the comparison with the Cuban missile crisis only goes so far. Back then, Russia's nuclear arsenal was paltry and thought to be at least somewhat unreliable. Nuclear war would have been horrible but not necessarily a doomsday for humanity and the biosphere. Little chance of that with today's nuclear-weapons capabilities. It's truly sad that so many folks seem inured to the likelihood that such a current day scenario entails a journey of no return.
Not only that, but an appalling number of Americans seem to think that Russia backed down, that the US "won" that incident, when in reality the US backed down and removed its nukes from Turkey, and asked Khrushchev to keep that part quiet, so as to not let the US/JFK look "weak". This perpetuated the successful bullying myth. IMO.
So this then encourages first strike by the other side. What a bunch of dangerous morons!
"It will be the result of specific choices made by the managers of empire. It will be the result of the US choosing escalation over de-escalation, brinkmanship over detente — not just once but over and over again, while declining off-ramp after off-ramp."
Your first sentence above is accurate. The rest is US-centric hubris.
The managers of empire do not respect nations and claim no nationality. Their objectives are to enforce a totalitarian regime globally. The US is as much a target for demolition as any other nation on earth.
So many people fail to acknowledge the globalist predator class, aka the Black Nobility, believing some cock and bull story about US hegemony which they read in the owned media.
The US military always fail to deliver victory because that is not their purpose.
They are engaged, by the Black Nobs, to perpetuate war and depopulation.
Oh..... and the US citizens are to pay for it via their taxes.
American egos are incapable of recognising the truth of their subservience and slavery, so my words will undoubtedly be ignored as always.
The Black Nobility want a war with Russia and China. They have planned for this for many decades but the planners are not in Washington or London or even the Vatican. They are scattered all over the world on superyachts, in bunkers and castles, bristling with hi-tech security.
Nationless and ruthless. These are the true rulers of the world.
Who is the Black Nobility and how do you know this? Do you have evidence?
I have written about them at length and I provide links to my sources here:
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/who-rules-the-world
and here:
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/what-does-the-rule-of-law-mean
FBI demands 66 YEARS to release data on Seth Rich laptop – (his murder is still unresolved.)
https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/post/2199282/hush-hush-ep-58
2020 elections were indeed STOLEN – by FBI !!
66 - interesting choice. Not 65, not 67, had to be 66. They would prefer 666 but that would definitely be too long for even their most obedient brown-nosers to swallow.
We have to expel these people from public life. Medea Benjamin is the model. It has to become culturally, and eventually legally, unacceptable (that is, it must be criminal), for people in public positions to pursue these aims to any degree.
WW3 has been going strong against THE PEOPLE of the world for a long time now.
It's also important to note that unlike the first two world wars from which North America emerged relatively undamaged, even if no nuclear weapons are used, any 3rd such conflict would result in serious death and destruction to any western hemisphere combatant nations. It's rather amazing that so many people just go merrily about their days as if nothing is amiss, completely oblivious to the looming shitstorm.
I would like to inform everyone of what has been going on and where it is likely to lead without a change in course but it seems like trying to swim against a raging current of propaganda and being viewed as some kind of lunatic by all others who merrily drift along on the current in their comfortable and seemingly sturdy boats towards a 200 meter waterfall.
I don’t think this mentality has currency without the incessant urging and prognostications from charlatan preachers who think they have a direct line of communication with their deity. It engenders hubris, and it infects every corner of life in America. It confers an arrogance and it is what ails us.
I'd get worried if I actually believed comments like the general's. But I don't. I regard them as salvos in the information war designed to intimidate the other side and rally our side. Behind the propaganda perpetually spewed at us is the stark inescapable fact that Russia is defeating Ukraine. Even with 10s of thousands of Polish, Rumanian, and other NATO mercenary battalions fighting on the Ukrainian side with Ukrainian insignia to make up for the Ukraine military's egregious losses, the Russians continue grinding through men and material while at the same time destroying the infrastructure on which what's left of the Ukrainian economy depends. Once the Russian reinforcements are through training and introduced into the battle, the outcome to which the war is heading will become obvious to all, so that, by spring, Ukraine's utter defeat will be undisguisable. Since our side knows that, they are escalating the rhetoric to new intensity, to get Russians and countries friendly to Russia like India and China to pressure Putin and his team to cut the kind of deal that allows the West to pretend they won, or at least didn't lose, thereby hiding the shame of a humiliation many-fold greater than Afghanistan. We need to keep calm; the best recipe is to stop subjecting oneself to the media manipulation by watching no MSM news or public affairs and focusing on reruns of Law and Order, CSI, and such like. That's the route to mental health: confine one's reading and viewing to the past. If one still feels one needs to know what's going on today, find sources you've never heard of before, sift through them, and stick with the more serious ones.
Spot on, Midge. May I offer one alteration? Replace re-runs of television programs with reading books.
I seriously don’t think Putin has any interest in kicking the can down the road. He’s been years trying to hammer out an agreement that respects everyone’s security concerns. His actions in Ukraine have all been according to Washington’s calendar. He will go home when there’s no chance of NATO gun batteries poised to level the Kremlin. And he will probably occupy Ukraine indefinitely if the country’s infrastructure is destroyed.
The US has always had it both ways: it doesn't know what the hell it's doing - and - it's all-knowing.
You don't give sharp knives to stumble-bums, much less nukes, so let's hear the narrative again, formally: what the hell was the US doing in Iraq that justified killing, first, a half million very young children, along no doubt, with quite a few of their parents, friends and neighbours, and what was the existentially essential motive 13 years later for mopping up on the rest of the civilian population? What vital business did it have in Libya that if had to destroy it and its leader, and condemn its black workers to enslavement? And soooo much more.
Trial over: hand over the nukes or destroy them.
Not just the U.S. Empire... King Charles III favors war to accomplish his ... Terra Carta.
https://sovren.media/p/217439/62b347812e70cc1020ab6d6af374ea52
Without addressing it, but evident in his remarks, Charles is in line with Russia and China, and squarely out of sync with his hellbent cousins over the pond.
The entire charade is about taxation, power and money. Nothing more. And this applies to the other side as well. Big fat egg heads who want more of the pie.
We can't deny that China and Russia aren't playing the same game. People just get caught up in their side.
China is pushing an agenda as is Russia.
They aren't going to blow up the world. They live in it too.
When they can't sell us this shit any longer, an 11th hour hero will be created to negotiate or come up with a new invention, like a vaccine.
And they will all get richer.
The media "tools" provide information to create fear. Alien invasion? Well, we need a space force. Chinese invasion? We need nukes, ships, planes, and on and on.
Obsolete equipment. Give it to a third world country so we can get new shit.
Use fear to buy new stuff.
The biggest joke. Blow up an asteroid to knock it off course. That is impossible to predict. There is no possible way of knowing specific densities of different objects coming at us at 20000 km/hr. Simple mathematics. They could actually make it worse. It is a 50 50.
When we realize this we simply stop worrying about any of this crap.
They made us afraid of a bad cold. The lie is catching up to them.
My solution. Ask them what they want. Then give it to them with the caveat, they can't ask again.
I liked the GOT metaphor when Vanerys wanted his golden crown and he got it.
It is so increasingly obvious that those in the USA, waiting patiently for elections that either may never be fully realized - or which will be thoroughly skewed to fit the program by the variety of tools available in the totalitarian, anti-election tool boxes - could easily come too late or be too mangled to rely on. The International scheme relies heavily on the role the US plays as one of the lead planetary, death-dealing War Profiteers. The scheme to rule the world is ancient and far more enormous and complicated than one nation. These people are sick as we may imagine on all fronts.