Here’s an argument that you may want to direct at religious Jews -
“One of the things that you hear most frequently from Israel’s defenders is that it has a right to exist. And I think this phrase is really important to think about.
One of my heroes is the Orthodox Jewish Israeli philosopher, Yeshayahu Leibowitz. And Leibowitz was very explicit about this. Leibowitz said Israel has no right to exist because no state has a right to exist. States are instruments. States are instruments to protect human life and to allow for human flourishing. Leibowitz came at this from a theological perspective as an Orthodox Jew. It was very clear to him that the only thing that was created in the image of God were human beings.
This is the point that Abraham Joshua Heschel made very clearly as well. When speaking about idolatry, Heschel made the point that to see anything as created in the image of God, other than the human being—whether it’s a building or a statue or a tree or a star, any of that—is idolatrous. Because the only thing, according to Torah, that is created in the image of God is the human being.
And so, what Leibowitz was saying was when you see an inherent value in states beyond their instrumental value, you are imagining that they have a value in and above the value of the human beings who reside within those states. And that is idolatry because it makes them sacred, and it places their value above the lives of the human beings who live within that state. And it is the human beings, not the state, that is created in the image of God.
And that’s why I think that much of the establishment Jewish discourse about Israel has become, in Leibowitz’s terms, idolatrous. Because this phrase, ‘right to exist,’ is again and again used as a way of trumping the value of the people who live within this territory, and saying: no, no, I’m not going to take moral responsibility for what is being done to those people who live under the control of the state of Israel—half of whom are Palestinian—because the rights of the state trump the rights of those individuals. And that is to make the state an idol.
And that is what Leibowitz saw as a grave, grave sin. It is important to remember that idolatry is just about the most serious sin there is in Judaism. It’s one of only three that you cannot perform, even at risk of death. The Talmud says that opposing idolatry is the very definition of being a Jew. And that’s why I think it’s so important to understand the idolatry that has crept into Jewish discussion of Israel and to oppose that idolatry.”
Israel has a right to exist" is shorthand for "Because Israel can't exist without ethnic cleansing and land theft, ethnic cleansing and land theft are okay".
Of course Israel has no right to exist for all those reasons. And since Israel is the only State which makes such a claim we can conclude they know they are illegal and always were.
One cannot simply say to the Judge who has sentenced you (G-d, in this case), "I think I've suffered enough...so NOW, I'm going to end my sentence early, and put myself on Parole.".
The first Zionists were Atheists, Assimilationists who were then joined by overt Ethno-Supremacists, practicing what Yeshayahu Liebowitz later called "Judeo-Nazism". I wonder why Peter Beinart doesn't want to use that term? Perhaps that's because it's too - 'on the nose'.
In this week's issue of the "JEWISH JOURNAL", (January 17-23, 2025) a stenographer named Aaron Bandler gets a page to uncritically rebroadcast the absolute LIBEL, of a Zionist Abomination-sponsored front group called "StandWithUs" -against the left and reform Judaism-leaning "Jewish Voice for Peace". The Title of the article is "StandWithUs Release Report Calls JVP a 'Shield for Hate'. It's many column inches of Hasbarah - without any consideration of what Torah-faithful Rabbis have always called Zionism - "Satanic" and a "Heresy". JVP assists in its own defamation, by assiduously never bringing up that point.
So instead we get a sub-Headline that reads "Following the Oct. 7, 2023 Massacre, JVP characterized Hamas' actions that day as "resistance" and blamed [the Zionist Abomination] for the attacks. JVP has since characterized Zionism as Nazism, a tactic that the report describes as "Holocaust inversion"." Firstly, let's just say it...JVP appears to be 💯% correct in all that this Hasbarah "report" tries to dismiss, without doing any rational interrogation.
In fact, the Palestinians trapped in the open-air Concentration Camp of Gaza - are living under an unlawful settler-colonial occupation. As such, they have a LAWFUL RIGHT to Armed Resistance, under International law. And the currently popular, Likud and faux-Messianic brand of Zionism, is essentially indistinguishable from Nazism - confirming exactly what Yeshayahu Liebowitz described it as being, and becoming. So props to JVP.org - for speaking plainly and honestly.
The reality, is that "the Oct. 7, 2023 massacre" - was well predicted by the Zionist Abomination's Intelligence and Military, by as much as a year in advance. Despite this the fascist Netanyahu Regime, oversaw a rising tide of murderous violence against Palestinians, in the illegally occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem - and a series of what looks to be DELIBERATE PROVOCATIONS, like the attack upon the Al Aqsa Mosque, during Ramadan prayers.
The Zionist Entity officials were also warned by the Intelligence services of legitimate Nation States, like Egypt and the USA, much closer to the day of the uprising. Yet STILL, they diverted the soldiers from the militarized ring of settlements surrounding Gaza (the so-called "security envelope") to abuse Palestinians in the West Bank, and to protect the violent and lawless settlers there, from any possibility of reprisals, for their daily/weekly murderous POGROMS against the Palestinians, there. The Zionist Entity also disarmed the settlements ringing Gaza, shortly before the events of Oct. 7.
So they knew it was coming - and still they provoked Hamas - until it announced those provocations to be acts of war, in the Spring of 2023. Then they created conditions which would allow the uprising to succeed. And additionally - they gave permits to this Nova Music Festival - and even moved the proposed location CLOSER to the fences of Gaza... And after all of that - while certainly Hamas killed those who resisted their Jail-break and slave revolt...they seemed mostly to be interested in taking hostages - to exchange for the 10,000 Palestinians being held in Zionist Dungeons, Torture Chambers and Rape Rooms - many of them without any charges or Military Tribunals (Palestinians aren't given legitimate trials, with Juries of their peers).
And according to the Battle damage assessment of one experienced Retired US Marine Corps Intelligence Officer - of the 1200 Zionist settlers killed that day about 80% appear to have been killed by their own illegitimate Government - as part of a "Mass Hannibal" directive. So there's your massacre - right there. The numbers were run-up, seemingly, by the Zionist Genocidal Forces - to avoid having to trade Palestinians for their own people. And perhaps also to make the case for a new "Holocaust", which we know that they did, loudly and persistently, upon the world stage. And they used that as a cover and a justification, for their long-planned Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza.
And then there's the psychological projection, with the allegations of "mass rapes" and "human shields" - when these are clearly institutionalized tactics used by the Zionists, as repeatedly noted by even "Israeli" Human Rights Organizations. Every Zionist accusation seems to be a confession, and a plan.
All living creatures can feel love, and it is in love that the Godhood is revealed. Anthropocentrism is run its course, and it's time and past to leave the idiotic and idolatrous Monotheisms behind in the last Aeon, and go back to our saner Pagan roots with concern for ALL living things, and the environment.
Zionazis only use the "Do you agree the state called Israel has a right to exist?" as a mental/intellectual crowbar, sober they are fully aware no "state" has any "right" to exist. Any more than any company does.
The entire aim is not to create a logical, rational argument, but to try to trick you so they can accuse you of racism. That's it.
It is no more a serious argument than the Hasbara promotion of flat-Earthism to practice their skills.
You can try to tell them it's idolatry, but they won't care one jot or tittle.
There are the hasbara who spread Zionist propaganda and there are the useful idiots who repeat it. The explanation that no state has the right to exist, and that its idolatry in Judaism, is for those rubberstampers. They need to know they’re listening to liars. Israel is nothing without its blind supporters.
True, to some extent. TBF, if someone can sit through the last 17 months of genocide, and STILL "Support Israel", it's likely they are not just ignorant rubber-stampers but active and conscious supporters.
Although, there's probably a LOT of ignorant rubber-stampers out there still, so I take your well-made point.
Religion does funny things to people’s priorities. It also gives people a value framework that’s not logical to those who don’t believe in it. Their “god” and its dictums are ineradicably higher than any human life (why I view most religions as death cults). But they still have to be dealt with. And they still have the “fairness and trust” detection system we all have, see game theory, so exposing the Zionists as the cynical liars and heretics they are is always worthwhile. Not many people will line up behind known liars who’ve just deceived them. It just takes a while for some people to absorb that they were deceived, and may resist knowing.
It could help some, at least, to know that the Zionists have been lying in various ways, and pursuing base motives in others, since oh the late 1800s and it’s consistent in the historical record. It just takes unpacking the internal history which most people just don’t do. “Poor little refugee country” is the farthest many people go, and “god said” is where another chunk start and stop. If the “god said” people don’t care about certain parts of history, perhaps they’d care about stuff like, the Russian Jews who went there in the late 1800s immediately started abusing the Palestinians and backslapping each other, because they now felt like they had power. That was their attraction to the situation. Also that they’d come up with the idea to “drive the [Palestinians] out by the sword” by mm 1901 or 1903, and that was wildly popular. They’d already been warned by a Zionist leader to not make themselves unpopular in Palestine; they chose the path of aggression deliberately—or maybe they couldn’t restrain themselves. They caused every conflict. So this is not godly, it is hard to square that with heavenly dispensation.
The point is that every supporter has their own reasons and ignorance of the reality is at the root of most of their reasons—but they will care about different unsavory aspects.
I can give receipts for what I’ve just mentioned; I’ve linked these items recently but idk how easy that is to see.
Everyone has a belief system, usually several, and no belief system corresponds precisely to actual Reality. Religions, of course, are a form of organised belief system - though no two people, even in the same congregation, believes EXACTLY the same thing, no matter how careful the organised indoctrination.
Similar can be said of Scientific communities even.
While organised religion of any sort (Although especially monolithic paranoid and greedy current monotheisms) has its problems, this error I would say can be seen in all of us, none of us are cursed with absolute knowledge and awareness. We all believe in things that seem illogical and absurd to many other people in different situations, often with merit.
Imagine explaining to a Gift Community where no-one was without land, food and the social luxuries, why "Money" is essential to you.
Or to people from a transregional co-operative Anarchist society with those above characteristics why a "State" is needed.
Now imagine telling your neighbours that "Money" and "The State", aren't important.
Our social environment shapes all of us, into certain belief systems, with or without organised religion sticking its big oar in.
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Yeps on exposing Zionazi lies absolutely, and you're right, opening the can and spotting you've been lied to even just once can quite likely eventually force the entire can of worms into the sunlight for at least that one person. For me it was the book 'Gun and the Olive Branch', going through the actual diaries of the planners, that started my eyes opening.
For sure the 'Violence with impunity' has attracted MANY unpleasant souls to move to the area, and the state itself has deliberately promoted that kind of mentality too, in media, education, and the general society. Many Kibbutzniks however, on the left, regret the Palestinians weren't brought into the state, or treated well. And until the current wave of horror, many Jewish Israeli organisations agreed - even when the fascist Nuttyahoo regime had them targetted.
So there's a 'hell' brew going on over there. Goebellian media, Jewish supremacist state education system, abusive fascist immigrants with superiority complexes, backed up by a not dissimilar mix in most Western countries with regards to the media and perhaps even the school education systems being tainted with racism. Certainly towards Islam.
Of course, none of this has been unplanned. I know its in vogue in the intelligentsia that the PTB are just always doing their absolute moral best but for some strange reason it doesn't always work out, or ever at all, but frankly I'm cynical.
Same as I don't believe those talking heads who demand(ed?) to know if "You think Israel has a right to exist?", are doing their absolute moral best and they just came up with that line themselves.
The specific issues with most religions are two: that an entity and subsidiarily along with the entity, the supposed interactions the believer has with it, which together are entirely separate from the concrete world and therefore every person, being, situation, etc. are valued over anything that happens in the concrete world, and that the belief system is unfalsifiable not just circumstantially (say, due to cognitive limits) but as a primary feature of the belief system.
Scientism is often confused with science or the scientific method or the scientific approach to understanding and then it’s claimed that science is a belief system. That’s a faulty understanding. Scientism does come with some beliefs, such as that only what science (the body of knowledge and the majority who agree on a given theory’s completeness) “knows” is possible in the world. That’s a very falsifiable proposition; those who believe in Scientism refuse to follow the steps to falsify it. That’s not a scientific approach. Skepticism is a major part of scientific thinking and most everyone knows that one. The one fewer people remember is that scientific thinking recalls that there’s a lot about the world (the universe, existence, etc) that hasn’t been examined, and can’t be with the tools currently in hand. However, this is not a proof that all unproven beliefs are true. It’s just a rigorously agnostic approach.
The equating of {knowledge, assumption, shortcuts, shorthand, statistical evaluation, weighting, elision of distant and mostly irrelevant points, etc., and also incomplete understanding and the impossibility of omniscience} with religion is an artifact of post-modern thinking, or even to be more precise, the sound bytes of postmodern thinking as filtered through intro courses led by poorly vetted grad students. It’s seeped into common discourse, but it’s rooted in a set of category errors that postmodern thinking fostered.
That is not to say that the hubris of belief in “progress, *science*, the green revolution, plastics!, etc.” of the middle and late Industrial Revolution weren’t bonkers. But that was Scientism and its faith was like that in alchemy. Same with the fevers for finance, biotech, AI, etc. Look carefully though and not all scientists get caught up in that. (edit: and I will mention that a lot of people who work in Science(tm) aren't scientific in the deeply necessary way. They're technicians. They've learned the skills necessary to pursue some question-and-answer session, but their rhetorical-intellectual skills haven't been developed as well as they should and could be. Our education system fails at this almost entirely; the classical education needs to be reintroduced).
For me, there were a few points that I can look back on. One key point was a human rights course that taught that Israelis, or any Jewish person who made a claim, got the rights they demanded if there was a conflict between their demands and others’ assertions of rights, and looking at how that became a playbook for special interest demands in general. But the author I’ll give you in return for your gift is Eyal Weizman and his book *Hollow Land*. https://www.versobooks.com/products/2007-hollow-land?srsltid=AfmBOooxbZfObP2oAo7PjwG_5RTnHjy_yeKB6eXSOQrVJg-AWt-1dx3L
He’s an architect working in London but more than that, he and the group he founded, Forensic Architecture https://forensic-architecture.org/, use spatial modeling and human-space interaction analysis skills to reconstruct human rights violations. Lots are in Palestine of course, but many are elsewhere. They have a website and if you have any tolerance for the visual language of high design I recommend it. They produce visual packages for each violation they investigate. It’s shocking to see the constructed world of ultra violence described that way--like a proposal for an office park. They’ve helped people get judgments in courts of human rights.
Anyway, Weizman wrote an essay, “Walking through Walls”, https://transversal.at/transversal/0507/weizman/en which was my first exposure to him. He describes how the IDF (sic, IOF) uses a technique of going straight through buildings (apartments, offices, kitchens, bedrooms) instead of going around the buildings, when pursuing their victims. They don’t just benefit from staying out of aerial view, they benefit from destabilizing individuals who live or work in these places they demolish from the inside. They are so invested in terrorizing the population that it’s of value to them to go to the effort of breaking through a concrete building to traumatize a single person or family in their home, and then disappear through the far wall.
In Hollow Land, Weizman discusses the various ways the architecture of confinement creates a barely survivable apartheid, and also how viciously a single Jewish family will fight a Palestinian family to take over their specific house, using lawfare and friendly courts, while the appearance to the outside world is that everything is legal and fine.
So that is not how an innocent people behaves. It’s just not.
It became obvious to me that any innocence is far in the past. Maybe they’d lost their way at some point, I thought. When I started looking into it, though, I found it never had been the case at all. I kept going farther back, and there were always hints of give an inch take a mile, and deceptions, and total disinterest in anything outside their own desires. And whenever I found primary sources, it just popped out.
Agree. And that POS Swiss Security Department head Mario Fehr called EI Ali an "islamist" and "jew-hater". I just wish Ali called him and the entire Swiss government Palestinian-haters. What is wrong with all these Germanic countries: Germany, Austria, most of Switzerland. They are again biggest bigots, idiots, and supporters of genocide.
The USA has spent fortunes to place their 'own people' in charge over decades, especially in Germany. Vassals do as they told, or else.
And the 'Holocaust guilt' is also very, very real, and easily manipulated.
They are scared of the Israeli lobby, and terrified of the US lobby.
More regular Germans have been willing to be sent to jail for protesting these policies than in the UK or US though.
Sadly, "Palestinian-hater" does not have the same impact of 3 generations of Holocaust propaganda; although that seems to be changing across the World.
Your idolatry emphasis today requires a greater study and understanding than what is allowed in the time one devotes to absorbing all the comments to such a large effort as has been offered by Caitlin and Tim today.
"The Talmud says that opposing idolatry is the very definition of being a Jew" warrants further study, or at least a better understanding.
Thanks. One has to now wonder whether the disgraceful Israelis, such as those who call Palestinians "human animals'; those who use sniper weapons to kill babies and little children, are even aware of such writings in the Talmud at all.
Idolatry may be "the most serious sin there is in Judaism", but to the current Israeli population, wherever they may be, residing conveniently as dual citizens in other countries as well, it seems to count for nought.
Thank you for that quote from Peter Beinart. He accurately focuses on the fundamental issue, which is that a state, whether Israel or any other, has no intrinsic "right to exist". While for Zionists, Israel's "right to exist" is the foundation of their argument, and without that the entire Zionist project collapses.
The state is the form of government by which a nation of people operates. The state should therefore conform to the desire of the nation; that is, the state should be based on the consent of the people. The legitimacy of the state requires the ongoing consent of its population.
What Beinart has done here is to crack the logical shell of Zionism, and that he is himself Jewish is helpful. It rebuts the reflexive accusation that critics of Israel are anti-Semites.
I also recommend his essay published on the Opinion page of the New York Times on Monday (1/27/25), which expands further on the same point.
francesca albanese answered something similar to the question if 'israel has a right to exist'. people have rights under international humanitarian law, 'states' don't. states having rights indeed is as absurd as citizens united corporate personhood.
Agree and I may add israel has and never had right to exist. Especially not now after killing tens of thousands of unarmed civilians, purposely destroying hospitals, Universities, schools, infrastructure, etc.
When I started reading the comment, and when I reached the point where you mentioned that the Israeli historian is your hero, anything that follows can’t be considered correct. How can you admire someone who at least agreed to steal land and live on it, land that belongs to others? By the way, when you don’t reject the Israeli passport, you are, in fact, supporting Zionism because you accept your existence there.
Stop defending the rights of Palestinians, which are as clear as daylight, with the damn Jews. Stop feeding the narrative that Jews are special and smart while they have been killing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians for a century. Stop this nonsense. Enough is enough !!!
Beinart also got the NYT to publish this yesterday in the Opinion section. There’s an interview with him on Owen Jones’s YouTube channel from a day or so ago, you might enjoy if you didn’t see it.
Beinart was one of the biggest israel supporters of the 2003 Iraq War and he drove the New Republic into the ground, purposely, so there would be less left wing opposition to the israeli project in Iraq and Wesley Clark's 7 countries. Forgive me if I don't believe he has changed his israeli tune.
Does that mean you don’t believe people who once supported Israel cannot learn and change their minds? In which case, many millions have done just that, do you reject them as well? From the publication notes of his new book, “Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza.” - “A story in which Israeli Jews have the right to equality, not supremacy, and in which Jewish and Palestinian safety are not mutually exclusive but intertwined.” That is not Zionism.
In 'the writing's on the Wall' Biblical record, the king of Babylon, now called Iraq, put on a State Dinner for 1000 of the Elite of the kingdom.
They drank wine and 'praised gods of gold, silver, copper, iron, wood, and stone.' aka IDOLATRY. From then to now, 'It's the Economy, Stupid!'
Babylon 2700 years ago, is the 1st Biblical record of a Military-Industrial Superpower setting the Rules Based Order for all the other smaller, weaker, Nations in the Middle East.
With the writing on the Wall, the hegemonic Biblical Babylon lost Empire to ancient Persia, now called Iran.
With the illegal US invasion of Iraq in 2003 called 'Shock and Awe' broadcast live on TV as it was happening, History is repeating itself as 'Shock and Awe' is used often by the MSM to describe the Trump Times we're in Today, 21 years later. The MSM is telling us the US/Israel has Iran targeted.
I thank God of my Faith I'm Healthy and Well living my 81st Year, able to point to this 49 year old Historical Newspaper record of The Kansas City Times, September 13, 1976, as Americans were celebrating the Revolution, publishing these controversial words and images of a complete unknown walking in off the street.
“He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November TO DO GOD'S BIDDING: To tell the World, from Kansas City, this country has been found wanting and its days are numbered [...] He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of BABYLON,” he said.” [...] He wanted to bring to the Public’s attention an “idea being put out subtly and deceptively” by the government that we have to get prepared for a War with Russia.”
That 1976 FUTURE is NOW with the Revelation of the details GENERALLY unfolding in the spirit of the letter.
The World is waking up to see Americans may hasten “its days are numbered” part of the
Best effort in awhile. I adore how you call out fascists who simp for psychopathic billionaires, i.e., Trump. The American government is beyond reform. America has instituted the Fourth Reich and must be overthrown.
That's the old way of dealing with it. They are ready for that. We can do it a new way, one where they won't know what's coming. Absolutely no violence involved.
Or ... instead of overthrown, just left to die of its own accord. If enough states Nullify fed dictates and then Secede from the forced, illegal union, taking their tax dollars with them, the monster can wither on the vine.
And contrary to popular belief, the evil Lincoln did not settle it, since leaving an abusive relationship is a Natural Right that by definition can never be "settled."
Radicalised Zionist Fanatics are taking over in so many countries. They're weaponising antisemitism and disregarding the many Jews against Zionism. Anti Zionism is NOT antisemitism. Ethnic cleansing is war crimes and unforgivable. Israel is a rogue state committing genocide, supported by USA, UK, Germany, Australia and other Western countries. Its vile, evil and murderously cruel.
There is a paragraph you wrote that I have changed 3 words in below, then it could have been written for us in the UK.
"If you moved seamlessly from aggressively attacking Conservaties abuses to aggressively attacking Labours, then you have my attention, because I know your criticisms are coming from actual principles and not blind opposition to an opposing political faction. You are standing against tyranny instead of standing with one of UK’s two tyrannical parties."
"The obvious humanitarian solution is a heroic multinational push to rush massive amounts of aid to Gaza while rebuilding it at the expense of the states who destroyed it ..."
This makes such perfect sense (and is so humane and just) that you know what the response will be from our current fascist leaders: "Oh, humanitarian aid is too expensive! We don't have the money to pay for all of it, so why start?" Of course, these same leaders didn't blink once in providing billions of dollars worth of armaments that caused all the destruction in the first place. Sigh!
Where's a 2,000 pound bomb when you need one to drop on the heads of some sociopathic leaders...
If IT removes its bloody claws from revenue from Pal oil and gas there should be plenty to rebuild Gaza. But I believe the Zionist psychos being this close to the final land grab will have none of that.
My rule of thumb is this: anything that comes out the sewer of DC, whether declaration by empire politician or parrot-like squawk by mouthpiece posing as journalist is by definition toxic gas emitted by the slow but inexorable degradation and decomposition of the empire.
While I believe Trump to absolutely be the lesser of the two evils he is still evil. If you look at a world map and see what he is proposing, (Taking over Canada, Greenland, and Panama as well as threatening Mexico with sanctions to bring them under control) a picture begins to emerge of a militarily strategic move to begin the consolidation of everything the WEF/NWO has been attempting. Now look at the Middle East and look at the attempt to have the U.S. proxy (Israel) through violence attempt the same thing. Zionists are not Jews. They are the driving force of the Western Regime's attempt to rule the world. In short, I believe they ARE WASHINGTON. If they pull it off they will control the Panama canal and the Suez canal as well. Someone please show me empirically where I am wrong.
The second stage of war on China as was done with Japan. The ability to block trade routes. We in the u.s. need war, End Stage Capitalism has run out of easily colonized countries as we saw with Russia. It's strange how some people in the u.s. were excited about war on Russia, flags waving, lawn signs, and now the hype for war on China has begun. Without military spending the u.s. economy is dead as dead as israel (lowercase intentional).
When I criticized Trumps behavior toward bishop Budde, I was accused of supporting a criminal.
After I finished laughing and got my breath back, I pointed out Trump entered office with 30 criminal convictions and in his first week committed 19 crimes including 1 constitutional violation. And furthermore, one of which goes unacknowledged - it's illegal to supply heavy armaments to a country that intends to use them on civilians.
It's basically the pot engulfed in flames calling the kettle black.
I demand an apology from Trump for running for public office in the first place. I also demand an apology from all the celebrities and elites (looking at you, Oprah, Bill Clinton, etc.) that suggested he run.
Neither apology will happen. And Budde should tell Trump to fuck off.
I think we should tell Budde to fuck off at the same time for carrying water for Israel. Everyone knows Trump is a man-child, but she has respectability she shouldn't.
It’s not quiet if you have been paying attention imo. The US had contracts and everything under Biden for the resources off the coast of Gaza…it’s kind of scary to me how people just pretend this is new and react more to Trumps words over Bidens actions
I never said it was new. But Biden didn't come out and declare he wanted the real estate like Trump has. At least Trump is honest/stupid enough to say it.
This is Trump's only "good trait." He just blurts things out without thinking or covering them up with pretty words like other politicians do. He reveals the truth of things not because he's a truth-seeker, but because he's sloppy and stupid.
Much of the reason that Trump was so objectionable in the past was that he said the quiet parts out loud.
Now that the United States is rapidly dropping any pretense to being anything other than an empire, it is no longer seen as necessary to uphold the old pieties and comforting fictions, which is why there is less resistance to Trump than before.
Kushner was talking about the real estate during the Biden admin so that’s where he got it from. And I’m speaking in generalities about the reaction from ppl. Even this headline is following this trend of erasing what Biden did
Full support. And not just that POS Mario Fehr but designate the entire Swiss government as Palestinian-haters and genocide-enablers. Put Switzerland on the genocide-supporters list.
One of the most awful lessons of Israel's genocide is just how inhumane humanity has become. No other massacre has done more to make this clear. Of course there have been other genocides, and of course religitard savagery is not unique to Israelis, but support for the slaughter has never been so apparent, nor so universal. No other genocide has so completely involved all the world. Governments, radio stations, tv stations, newspapers, magazines, Facebook posts: the barrage of fact twisting and outright lies from supposedly civilised people who support, justify, and even try to dignify Israel's land thieving barbarism has been everywhere. Thanks to Israel, inhumanity is now not just okay, but something to be proud of. How do we respect the people who so openly lie to us? Why do they hold us in such contempt? No matter how plainly the UN, or Human Rights organisations, or a few noble governments, or history, or internationally renowned, often Jewish, experts make it clear that Israeli behaviour is something anyone with any decency ought to be ashamed of, the sick need to support racist bullying persists. People who live thousands of miles from Gaza want Palestinians dead. People whose only interest in Israel seems to be a delight in the killing. And, now that the apartheid state is about to spend another $150 million per year paying anyone who'll do anything for a buck to take its side, the stench of inhumanity is doomed to become worse. Not that Israel always has to pay its champions. There really are perfectly normal-seeming, outwardly calm individuals whose insides are, for reasons they can never properly explain, seething with a need to see more Palestinian children blown to bits. Who would home a kitten, but can't see why indigenous people should have a right to their land. Who can watch the film 'To Kill a Mockingbird', then immediately justify Israeli racism. Whose sense that they're a victim, despite being some of the wealthiest, best educated, most pampered people on earth will always make them swaggering sadists, so long as they have a gun in their hand and America behind them. It is a horrifying lesson. Can people genuinely have convinced themselves that Palestinians are not people just like them? Can they honestly not see that, in a world that is indifferent to barbarism, anyone could be next? The government leaders who stand so staunchly against humanity have much to answer for. The people who elect them too. Evil seems to be everywhere. Can modern society truly feel so beaten, depressed and abused that only a minority of humanity is still humane?
No difference between the Media and the Political class? Not weird or freakish at all - the media are owned by the same billionaires that own the political class, or at least members of the same club.
You know, the 'Big Club' that we are not members of.
The Truth is all Western politicians, regardless of L-R are controlled by the same Cult. They also control all Western mainstream media. The agenda always stays the same.
We cannot allow Israel to escape the legal consequences of their war crimes. The Hind Rajab Foundation has, among other things, filed a case with the ICC against 1,000 Israeli soldiers for war crimes in Gaza.
They have taken further steps in recent days, and vacations are becoming a lot more difficult for IDF soldiers, worldwide. The Hind Rajab Foundation can use our help. Please join me in making a contribution.
Here’s an argument that you may want to direct at religious Jews -
“One of the things that you hear most frequently from Israel’s defenders is that it has a right to exist. And I think this phrase is really important to think about.
One of my heroes is the Orthodox Jewish Israeli philosopher, Yeshayahu Leibowitz. And Leibowitz was very explicit about this. Leibowitz said Israel has no right to exist because no state has a right to exist. States are instruments. States are instruments to protect human life and to allow for human flourishing. Leibowitz came at this from a theological perspective as an Orthodox Jew. It was very clear to him that the only thing that was created in the image of God were human beings.
This is the point that Abraham Joshua Heschel made very clearly as well. When speaking about idolatry, Heschel made the point that to see anything as created in the image of God, other than the human being—whether it’s a building or a statue or a tree or a star, any of that—is idolatrous. Because the only thing, according to Torah, that is created in the image of God is the human being.
And so, what Leibowitz was saying was when you see an inherent value in states beyond their instrumental value, you are imagining that they have a value in and above the value of the human beings who reside within those states. And that is idolatry because it makes them sacred, and it places their value above the lives of the human beings who live within that state. And it is the human beings, not the state, that is created in the image of God.
And that’s why I think that much of the establishment Jewish discourse about Israel has become, in Leibowitz’s terms, idolatrous. Because this phrase, ‘right to exist,’ is again and again used as a way of trumping the value of the people who live within this territory, and saying: no, no, I’m not going to take moral responsibility for what is being done to those people who live under the control of the state of Israel—half of whom are Palestinian—because the rights of the state trump the rights of those individuals. And that is to make the state an idol.
And that is what Leibowitz saw as a grave, grave sin. It is important to remember that idolatry is just about the most serious sin there is in Judaism. It’s one of only three that you cannot perform, even at risk of death. The Talmud says that opposing idolatry is the very definition of being a Jew. And that’s why I think it’s so important to understand the idolatry that has crept into Jewish discussion of Israel and to oppose that idolatry.”
- Peter Beinart, Substack 1/27/25
Israel has a right to exist" is shorthand for "Because Israel can't exist without ethnic cleansing and land theft, ethnic cleansing and land theft are okay".
But only when we do it!
Of course Israel has no right to exist for all those reasons. And since Israel is the only State which makes such a claim we can conclude they know they are illegal and always were.
The U.S. also makes that claim: "Manifest Destiny"; "City on a hill"; "White man's burden", "Monroe Doctrine", etc. ad nauseum.
Yes they suffer from the same deluded supremacist disease which is perhaps why the US and Israel are in bed together.
Both utterly failed fascist states.
Of course - Beinart gives the most tepid criticism possible, because he's a ZIONIST. And REALLY Orthodox Jews - reject Zionism as a Satanic Rebellion against G-d, and a rejection of the authentic Jewish faith of thousands of years, rebelling from the divinely decreed EXILE, known as 'the Diaspora'. See NKusa.org - or IsraelVersusJudaism.org and https://www.israelversusjudaism.org/post/statement-by-the-central-rabbinical-congress-of-usa
One cannot simply say to the Judge who has sentenced you (G-d, in this case), "I think I've suffered enough...so NOW, I'm going to end my sentence early, and put myself on Parole.".
The first Zionists were Atheists, Assimilationists who were then joined by overt Ethno-Supremacists, practicing what Yeshayahu Liebowitz later called "Judeo-Nazism". I wonder why Peter Beinart doesn't want to use that term? Perhaps that's because it's too - 'on the nose'.
In this week's issue of the "JEWISH JOURNAL", (January 17-23, 2025) a stenographer named Aaron Bandler gets a page to uncritically rebroadcast the absolute LIBEL, of a Zionist Abomination-sponsored front group called "StandWithUs" -against the left and reform Judaism-leaning "Jewish Voice for Peace". The Title of the article is "StandWithUs Release Report Calls JVP a 'Shield for Hate'. It's many column inches of Hasbarah - without any consideration of what Torah-faithful Rabbis have always called Zionism - "Satanic" and a "Heresy". JVP assists in its own defamation, by assiduously never bringing up that point.
So instead we get a sub-Headline that reads "Following the Oct. 7, 2023 Massacre, JVP characterized Hamas' actions that day as "resistance" and blamed [the Zionist Abomination] for the attacks. JVP has since characterized Zionism as Nazism, a tactic that the report describes as "Holocaust inversion"." Firstly, let's just say it...JVP appears to be 💯% correct in all that this Hasbarah "report" tries to dismiss, without doing any rational interrogation.
In fact, the Palestinians trapped in the open-air Concentration Camp of Gaza - are living under an unlawful settler-colonial occupation. As such, they have a LAWFUL RIGHT to Armed Resistance, under International law. And the currently popular, Likud and faux-Messianic brand of Zionism, is essentially indistinguishable from Nazism - confirming exactly what Yeshayahu Liebowitz described it as being, and becoming. So props to JVP.org - for speaking plainly and honestly.
The reality, is that "the Oct. 7, 2023 massacre" - was well predicted by the Zionist Abomination's Intelligence and Military, by as much as a year in advance. Despite this the fascist Netanyahu Regime, oversaw a rising tide of murderous violence against Palestinians, in the illegally occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem - and a series of what looks to be DELIBERATE PROVOCATIONS, like the attack upon the Al Aqsa Mosque, during Ramadan prayers.
The Zionist Entity officials were also warned by the Intelligence services of legitimate Nation States, like Egypt and the USA, much closer to the day of the uprising. Yet STILL, they diverted the soldiers from the militarized ring of settlements surrounding Gaza (the so-called "security envelope") to abuse Palestinians in the West Bank, and to protect the violent and lawless settlers there, from any possibility of reprisals, for their daily/weekly murderous POGROMS against the Palestinians, there. The Zionist Entity also disarmed the settlements ringing Gaza, shortly before the events of Oct. 7.
So they knew it was coming - and still they provoked Hamas - until it announced those provocations to be acts of war, in the Spring of 2023. Then they created conditions which would allow the uprising to succeed. And additionally - they gave permits to this Nova Music Festival - and even moved the proposed location CLOSER to the fences of Gaza... And after all of that - while certainly Hamas killed those who resisted their Jail-break and slave revolt...they seemed mostly to be interested in taking hostages - to exchange for the 10,000 Palestinians being held in Zionist Dungeons, Torture Chambers and Rape Rooms - many of them without any charges or Military Tribunals (Palestinians aren't given legitimate trials, with Juries of their peers).
And according to the Battle damage assessment of one experienced Retired US Marine Corps Intelligence Officer - of the 1200 Zionist settlers killed that day about 80% appear to have been killed by their own illegitimate Government - as part of a "Mass Hannibal" directive. So there's your massacre - right there. The numbers were run-up, seemingly, by the Zionist Genocidal Forces - to avoid having to trade Palestinians for their own people. And perhaps also to make the case for a new "Holocaust", which we know that they did, loudly and persistently, upon the world stage. And they used that as a cover and a justification, for their long-planned Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza.
And then there's the psychological projection, with the allegations of "mass rapes" and "human shields" - when these are clearly institutionalized tactics used by the Zionists, as repeatedly noted by even "Israeli" Human Rights Organizations. Every Zionist accusation seems to be a confession, and a plan.
How much of that does Beinart acknowledge?
All living creatures can feel love, and it is in love that the Godhood is revealed. Anthropocentrism is run its course, and it's time and past to leave the idiotic and idolatrous Monotheisms behind in the last Aeon, and go back to our saner Pagan roots with concern for ALL living things, and the environment.
Zionazis only use the "Do you agree the state called Israel has a right to exist?" as a mental/intellectual crowbar, sober they are fully aware no "state" has any "right" to exist. Any more than any company does.
The entire aim is not to create a logical, rational argument, but to try to trick you so they can accuse you of racism. That's it.
It is no more a serious argument than the Hasbara promotion of flat-Earthism to practice their skills.
You can try to tell them it's idolatry, but they won't care one jot or tittle.
They are not arguing honestly. It's just a trick.
There are the hasbara who spread Zionist propaganda and there are the useful idiots who repeat it. The explanation that no state has the right to exist, and that its idolatry in Judaism, is for those rubberstampers. They need to know they’re listening to liars. Israel is nothing without its blind supporters.
True, to some extent. TBF, if someone can sit through the last 17 months of genocide, and STILL "Support Israel", it's likely they are not just ignorant rubber-stampers but active and conscious supporters.
Although, there's probably a LOT of ignorant rubber-stampers out there still, so I take your well-made point.
Religion does funny things to people’s priorities. It also gives people a value framework that’s not logical to those who don’t believe in it. Their “god” and its dictums are ineradicably higher than any human life (why I view most religions as death cults). But they still have to be dealt with. And they still have the “fairness and trust” detection system we all have, see game theory, so exposing the Zionists as the cynical liars and heretics they are is always worthwhile. Not many people will line up behind known liars who’ve just deceived them. It just takes a while for some people to absorb that they were deceived, and may resist knowing.
It could help some, at least, to know that the Zionists have been lying in various ways, and pursuing base motives in others, since oh the late 1800s and it’s consistent in the historical record. It just takes unpacking the internal history which most people just don’t do. “Poor little refugee country” is the farthest many people go, and “god said” is where another chunk start and stop. If the “god said” people don’t care about certain parts of history, perhaps they’d care about stuff like, the Russian Jews who went there in the late 1800s immediately started abusing the Palestinians and backslapping each other, because they now felt like they had power. That was their attraction to the situation. Also that they’d come up with the idea to “drive the [Palestinians] out by the sword” by mm 1901 or 1903, and that was wildly popular. They’d already been warned by a Zionist leader to not make themselves unpopular in Palestine; they chose the path of aggression deliberately—or maybe they couldn’t restrain themselves. They caused every conflict. So this is not godly, it is hard to square that with heavenly dispensation.
The point is that every supporter has their own reasons and ignorance of the reality is at the root of most of their reasons—but they will care about different unsavory aspects.
I can give receipts for what I’ve just mentioned; I’ve linked these items recently but idk how easy that is to see.
Everyone has a belief system, usually several, and no belief system corresponds precisely to actual Reality. Religions, of course, are a form of organised belief system - though no two people, even in the same congregation, believes EXACTLY the same thing, no matter how careful the organised indoctrination.
Similar can be said of Scientific communities even.
While organised religion of any sort (Although especially monolithic paranoid and greedy current monotheisms) has its problems, this error I would say can be seen in all of us, none of us are cursed with absolute knowledge and awareness. We all believe in things that seem illogical and absurd to many other people in different situations, often with merit.
Imagine explaining to a Gift Community where no-one was without land, food and the social luxuries, why "Money" is essential to you.
Or to people from a transregional co-operative Anarchist society with those above characteristics why a "State" is needed.
Now imagine telling your neighbours that "Money" and "The State", aren't important.
Our social environment shapes all of us, into certain belief systems, with or without organised religion sticking its big oar in.
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Yeps on exposing Zionazi lies absolutely, and you're right, opening the can and spotting you've been lied to even just once can quite likely eventually force the entire can of worms into the sunlight for at least that one person. For me it was the book 'Gun and the Olive Branch', going through the actual diaries of the planners, that started my eyes opening.
For sure the 'Violence with impunity' has attracted MANY unpleasant souls to move to the area, and the state itself has deliberately promoted that kind of mentality too, in media, education, and the general society. Many Kibbutzniks however, on the left, regret the Palestinians weren't brought into the state, or treated well. And until the current wave of horror, many Jewish Israeli organisations agreed - even when the fascist Nuttyahoo regime had them targetted.
So there's a 'hell' brew going on over there. Goebellian media, Jewish supremacist state education system, abusive fascist immigrants with superiority complexes, backed up by a not dissimilar mix in most Western countries with regards to the media and perhaps even the school education systems being tainted with racism. Certainly towards Islam.
Of course, none of this has been unplanned. I know its in vogue in the intelligentsia that the PTB are just always doing their absolute moral best but for some strange reason it doesn't always work out, or ever at all, but frankly I'm cynical.
Same as I don't believe those talking heads who demand(ed?) to know if "You think Israel has a right to exist?", are doing their absolute moral best and they just came up with that line themselves.
Edit to add: https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571219452-the-gun-and-the-olive-branch/
Please take this as tongue-in-cheek as it is intended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-ZORFkb8mY
The specific issues with most religions are two: that an entity and subsidiarily along with the entity, the supposed interactions the believer has with it, which together are entirely separate from the concrete world and therefore every person, being, situation, etc. are valued over anything that happens in the concrete world, and that the belief system is unfalsifiable not just circumstantially (say, due to cognitive limits) but as a primary feature of the belief system.
Scientism is often confused with science or the scientific method or the scientific approach to understanding and then it’s claimed that science is a belief system. That’s a faulty understanding. Scientism does come with some beliefs, such as that only what science (the body of knowledge and the majority who agree on a given theory’s completeness) “knows” is possible in the world. That’s a very falsifiable proposition; those who believe in Scientism refuse to follow the steps to falsify it. That’s not a scientific approach. Skepticism is a major part of scientific thinking and most everyone knows that one. The one fewer people remember is that scientific thinking recalls that there’s a lot about the world (the universe, existence, etc) that hasn’t been examined, and can’t be with the tools currently in hand. However, this is not a proof that all unproven beliefs are true. It’s just a rigorously agnostic approach.
The equating of {knowledge, assumption, shortcuts, shorthand, statistical evaluation, weighting, elision of distant and mostly irrelevant points, etc., and also incomplete understanding and the impossibility of omniscience} with religion is an artifact of post-modern thinking, or even to be more precise, the sound bytes of postmodern thinking as filtered through intro courses led by poorly vetted grad students. It’s seeped into common discourse, but it’s rooted in a set of category errors that postmodern thinking fostered.
That is not to say that the hubris of belief in “progress, *science*, the green revolution, plastics!, etc.” of the middle and late Industrial Revolution weren’t bonkers. But that was Scientism and its faith was like that in alchemy. Same with the fevers for finance, biotech, AI, etc. Look carefully though and not all scientists get caught up in that. (edit: and I will mention that a lot of people who work in Science(tm) aren't scientific in the deeply necessary way. They're technicians. They've learned the skills necessary to pursue some question-and-answer session, but their rhetorical-intellectual skills haven't been developed as well as they should and could be. Our education system fails at this almost entirely; the classical education needs to be reintroduced).
For me, there were a few points that I can look back on. One key point was a human rights course that taught that Israelis, or any Jewish person who made a claim, got the rights they demanded if there was a conflict between their demands and others’ assertions of rights, and looking at how that became a playbook for special interest demands in general. But the author I’ll give you in return for your gift is Eyal Weizman and his book *Hollow Land*. https://www.versobooks.com/products/2007-hollow-land?srsltid=AfmBOooxbZfObP2oAo7PjwG_5RTnHjy_yeKB6eXSOQrVJg-AWt-1dx3L
He’s an architect working in London but more than that, he and the group he founded, Forensic Architecture https://forensic-architecture.org/, use spatial modeling and human-space interaction analysis skills to reconstruct human rights violations. Lots are in Palestine of course, but many are elsewhere. They have a website and if you have any tolerance for the visual language of high design I recommend it. They produce visual packages for each violation they investigate. It’s shocking to see the constructed world of ultra violence described that way--like a proposal for an office park. They’ve helped people get judgments in courts of human rights.
Anyway, Weizman wrote an essay, “Walking through Walls”, https://transversal.at/transversal/0507/weizman/en which was my first exposure to him. He describes how the IDF (sic, IOF) uses a technique of going straight through buildings (apartments, offices, kitchens, bedrooms) instead of going around the buildings, when pursuing their victims. They don’t just benefit from staying out of aerial view, they benefit from destabilizing individuals who live or work in these places they demolish from the inside. They are so invested in terrorizing the population that it’s of value to them to go to the effort of breaking through a concrete building to traumatize a single person or family in their home, and then disappear through the far wall.
In Hollow Land, Weizman discusses the various ways the architecture of confinement creates a barely survivable apartheid, and also how viciously a single Jewish family will fight a Palestinian family to take over their specific house, using lawfare and friendly courts, while the appearance to the outside world is that everything is legal and fine.
So that is not how an innocent people behaves. It’s just not.
It became obvious to me that any innocence is far in the past. Maybe they’d lost their way at some point, I thought. When I started looking into it, though, I found it never had been the case at all. I kept going farther back, and there were always hints of give an inch take a mile, and deceptions, and total disinterest in anything outside their own desires. And whenever I found primary sources, it just popped out.
Agree. And that POS Swiss Security Department head Mario Fehr called EI Ali an "islamist" and "jew-hater". I just wish Ali called him and the entire Swiss government Palestinian-haters. What is wrong with all these Germanic countries: Germany, Austria, most of Switzerland. They are again biggest bigots, idiots, and supporters of genocide.
The USA has spent fortunes to place their 'own people' in charge over decades, especially in Germany. Vassals do as they told, or else.
And the 'Holocaust guilt' is also very, very real, and easily manipulated.
They are scared of the Israeli lobby, and terrified of the US lobby.
More regular Germans have been willing to be sent to jail for protesting these policies than in the UK or US though.
Sadly, "Palestinian-hater" does not have the same impact of 3 generations of Holocaust propaganda; although that seems to be changing across the World.
Peter, above
Your idolatry emphasis today requires a greater study and understanding than what is allowed in the time one devotes to absorbing all the comments to such a large effort as has been offered by Caitlin and Tim today.
"The Talmud says that opposing idolatry is the very definition of being a Jew" warrants further study, or at least a better understanding.
Thanks. One has to now wonder whether the disgraceful Israelis, such as those who call Palestinians "human animals'; those who use sniper weapons to kill babies and little children, are even aware of such writings in the Talmud at all.
Idolatry may be "the most serious sin there is in Judaism", but to the current Israeli population, wherever they may be, residing conveniently as dual citizens in other countries as well, it seems to count for nought.
Thank you for this profound analysis . The discussion on ‘idolatry ‘ is profound .
Wow. Thank you so much for this. Just, wow!
Thank you for that quote from Peter Beinart. He accurately focuses on the fundamental issue, which is that a state, whether Israel or any other, has no intrinsic "right to exist". While for Zionists, Israel's "right to exist" is the foundation of their argument, and without that the entire Zionist project collapses.
The state is the form of government by which a nation of people operates. The state should therefore conform to the desire of the nation; that is, the state should be based on the consent of the people. The legitimacy of the state requires the ongoing consent of its population.
What Beinart has done here is to crack the logical shell of Zionism, and that he is himself Jewish is helpful. It rebuts the reflexive accusation that critics of Israel are anti-Semites.
I also recommend his essay published on the Opinion page of the New York Times on Monday (1/27/25), which expands further on the same point.
francesca albanese answered something similar to the question if 'israel has a right to exist'. people have rights under international humanitarian law, 'states' don't. states having rights indeed is as absurd as citizens united corporate personhood.
Agree and I may add israel has and never had right to exist. Especially not now after killing tens of thousands of unarmed civilians, purposely destroying hospitals, Universities, schools, infrastructure, etc.
When I started reading the comment, and when I reached the point where you mentioned that the Israeli historian is your hero, anything that follows can’t be considered correct. How can you admire someone who at least agreed to steal land and live on it, land that belongs to others? By the way, when you don’t reject the Israeli passport, you are, in fact, supporting Zionism because you accept your existence there.
Stop defending the rights of Palestinians, which are as clear as daylight, with the damn Jews. Stop feeding the narrative that Jews are special and smart while they have been killing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians for a century. Stop this nonsense. Enough is enough !!!
Beinart also got the NYT to publish this yesterday in the Opinion section. There’s an interview with him on Owen Jones’s YouTube channel from a day or so ago, you might enjoy if you didn’t see it.
Best definition of patriotism I have ever seen.
Beinart was one of the biggest israel supporters of the 2003 Iraq War and he drove the New Republic into the ground, purposely, so there would be less left wing opposition to the israeli project in Iraq and Wesley Clark's 7 countries. Forgive me if I don't believe he has changed his israeli tune.
Does that mean you don’t believe people who once supported Israel cannot learn and change their minds? In which case, many millions have done just that, do you reject them as well? From the publication notes of his new book, “Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza.” - “A story in which Israeli Jews have the right to equality, not supremacy, and in which Jewish and Palestinian safety are not mutually exclusive but intertwined.” That is not Zionism.
Have you read anything of his in the last couple years? He has definitely evolved. I believe what I attached is his sincere opinion.
In 'the writing's on the Wall' Biblical record, the king of Babylon, now called Iraq, put on a State Dinner for 1000 of the Elite of the kingdom.
They drank wine and 'praised gods of gold, silver, copper, iron, wood, and stone.' aka IDOLATRY. From then to now, 'It's the Economy, Stupid!'
Babylon 2700 years ago, is the 1st Biblical record of a Military-Industrial Superpower setting the Rules Based Order for all the other smaller, weaker, Nations in the Middle East.
With the writing on the Wall, the hegemonic Biblical Babylon lost Empire to ancient Persia, now called Iran.
With the illegal US invasion of Iraq in 2003 called 'Shock and Awe' broadcast live on TV as it was happening, History is repeating itself as 'Shock and Awe' is used often by the MSM to describe the Trump Times we're in Today, 21 years later. The MSM is telling us the US/Israel has Iran targeted.
I thank God of my Faith I'm Healthy and Well living my 81st Year, able to point to this 49 year old Historical Newspaper record of The Kansas City Times, September 13, 1976, as Americans were celebrating the Revolution, publishing these controversial words and images of a complete unknown walking in off the street.
“He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November TO DO GOD'S BIDDING: To tell the World, from Kansas City, this country has been found wanting and its days are numbered [...] He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of BABYLON,” he said.” [...] He wanted to bring to the Public’s attention an “idea being put out subtly and deceptively” by the government that we have to get prepared for a War with Russia.”
That 1976 FUTURE is NOW with the Revelation of the details GENERALLY unfolding in the spirit of the letter.
The World is waking up to see Americans may hasten “its days are numbered” part of the
1976 Vision, and waits with bated breath.
Best effort in awhile. I adore how you call out fascists who simp for psychopathic billionaires, i.e., Trump. The American government is beyond reform. America has instituted the Fourth Reich and must be overthrown.
That's the old way of dealing with it. They are ready for that. We can do it a new way, one where they won't know what's coming. Absolutely no violence involved.
Or ... instead of overthrown, just left to die of its own accord. If enough states Nullify fed dictates and then Secede from the forced, illegal union, taking their tax dollars with them, the monster can wither on the vine.
And contrary to popular belief, the evil Lincoln did not settle it, since leaving an abusive relationship is a Natural Right that by definition can never be "settled."
Best of luck friend,
~~ j ~~
The United States could have overthrown it by simply electing Jill Stein and an all Independent Congress last year.
2024: I will never forget or forgive.
Caitlin, you have a wonderful way of expressing the truth. You make it so obvious. Thanks.
Thank you Caitlin for speaking the truth. Keep doing it. I am on your side.
Radicalised Zionist Fanatics are taking over in so many countries. They're weaponising antisemitism and disregarding the many Jews against Zionism. Anti Zionism is NOT antisemitism. Ethnic cleansing is war crimes and unforgivable. Israel is a rogue state committing genocide, supported by USA, UK, Germany, Australia and other Western countries. Its vile, evil and murderously cruel.
Excellent agin Caitlin.
There is a paragraph you wrote that I have changed 3 words in below, then it could have been written for us in the UK.
"If you moved seamlessly from aggressively attacking Conservaties abuses to aggressively attacking Labours, then you have my attention, because I know your criticisms are coming from actual principles and not blind opposition to an opposing political faction. You are standing against tyranny instead of standing with one of UK’s two tyrannical parties."
My goodness, Starmer and UK Labour make the Tories look like ultra left-wing commies.
The parties appear to be playing leapfrog towards the right.
More like hand-in-hand.
Mutual masturbation.
"The obvious humanitarian solution is a heroic multinational push to rush massive amounts of aid to Gaza while rebuilding it at the expense of the states who destroyed it ..."
This makes such perfect sense (and is so humane and just) that you know what the response will be from our current fascist leaders: "Oh, humanitarian aid is too expensive! We don't have the money to pay for all of it, so why start?" Of course, these same leaders didn't blink once in providing billions of dollars worth of armaments that caused all the destruction in the first place. Sigh!
Where's a 2,000 pound bomb when you need one to drop on the heads of some sociopathic leaders...
If IT removes its bloody claws from revenue from Pal oil and gas there should be plenty to rebuild Gaza. But I believe the Zionist psychos being this close to the final land grab will have none of that.
My rule of thumb is this: anything that comes out the sewer of DC, whether declaration by empire politician or parrot-like squawk by mouthpiece posing as journalist is by definition toxic gas emitted by the slow but inexorable degradation and decomposition of the empire.
While I believe Trump to absolutely be the lesser of the two evils he is still evil. If you look at a world map and see what he is proposing, (Taking over Canada, Greenland, and Panama as well as threatening Mexico with sanctions to bring them under control) a picture begins to emerge of a militarily strategic move to begin the consolidation of everything the WEF/NWO has been attempting. Now look at the Middle East and look at the attempt to have the U.S. proxy (Israel) through violence attempt the same thing. Zionists are not Jews. They are the driving force of the Western Regime's attempt to rule the world. In short, I believe they ARE WASHINGTON. If they pull it off they will control the Panama canal and the Suez canal as well. Someone please show me empirically where I am wrong.
The second stage of war on China as was done with Japan. The ability to block trade routes. We in the u.s. need war, End Stage Capitalism has run out of easily colonized countries as we saw with Russia. It's strange how some people in the u.s. were excited about war on Russia, flags waving, lawn signs, and now the hype for war on China has begun. Without military spending the u.s. economy is dead as dead as israel (lowercase intentional).
Agreed! It is like a dying rat knowing it is dying and being all the lore dangerous for it.
Trump supporters are cartoon jesters.
When I criticized Trumps behavior toward bishop Budde, I was accused of supporting a criminal.
After I finished laughing and got my breath back, I pointed out Trump entered office with 30 criminal convictions and in his first week committed 19 crimes including 1 constitutional violation. And furthermore, one of which goes unacknowledged - it's illegal to supply heavy armaments to a country that intends to use them on civilians.
It's basically the pot engulfed in flames calling the kettle black.
Trump’s behavior toward Bishop Budde? What I heard is that he sat in stony silence.
and then later called her sermon 'nasty' and demanded a public apology.
I demand an apology from Trump for running for public office in the first place. I also demand an apology from all the celebrities and elites (looking at you, Oprah, Bill Clinton, etc.) that suggested he run.
Neither apology will happen. And Budde should tell Trump to fuck off.
I think we should tell Budde to fuck off at the same time for carrying water for Israel. Everyone knows Trump is a man-child, but she has respectability she shouldn't.
That was the same plan as Biden and the same reaction from those countries
Except Trump has said the quiet bit out loud. It's just about the real estate deal.
It’s not quiet if you have been paying attention imo. The US had contracts and everything under Biden for the resources off the coast of Gaza…it’s kind of scary to me how people just pretend this is new and react more to Trumps words over Bidens actions
I never said it was new. But Biden didn't come out and declare he wanted the real estate like Trump has. At least Trump is honest/stupid enough to say it.
This is Trump's only "good trait." He just blurts things out without thinking or covering them up with pretty words like other politicians do. He reveals the truth of things not because he's a truth-seeker, but because he's sloppy and stupid.
Much of the reason that Trump was so objectionable in the past was that he said the quiet parts out loud.
Now that the United States is rapidly dropping any pretense to being anything other than an empire, it is no longer seen as necessary to uphold the old pieties and comforting fictions, which is why there is less resistance to Trump than before.
I'd say he does it because it appeals to his base.
Kushner was talking about the real estate during the Biden admin so that’s where he got it from. And I’m speaking in generalities about the reaction from ppl. Even this headline is following this trend of erasing what Biden did
I hope Ali Abunimah sues the Swiss authorities for assault and false imprisonment, and sues Mario Fehr for slander. I’m in if there’s crowd funding.
Full support. And not just that POS Mario Fehr but designate the entire Swiss government as Palestinian-haters and genocide-enablers. Put Switzerland on the genocide-supporters list.
One of the most awful lessons of Israel's genocide is just how inhumane humanity has become. No other massacre has done more to make this clear. Of course there have been other genocides, and of course religitard savagery is not unique to Israelis, but support for the slaughter has never been so apparent, nor so universal. No other genocide has so completely involved all the world. Governments, radio stations, tv stations, newspapers, magazines, Facebook posts: the barrage of fact twisting and outright lies from supposedly civilised people who support, justify, and even try to dignify Israel's land thieving barbarism has been everywhere. Thanks to Israel, inhumanity is now not just okay, but something to be proud of. How do we respect the people who so openly lie to us? Why do they hold us in such contempt? No matter how plainly the UN, or Human Rights organisations, or a few noble governments, or history, or internationally renowned, often Jewish, experts make it clear that Israeli behaviour is something anyone with any decency ought to be ashamed of, the sick need to support racist bullying persists. People who live thousands of miles from Gaza want Palestinians dead. People whose only interest in Israel seems to be a delight in the killing. And, now that the apartheid state is about to spend another $150 million per year paying anyone who'll do anything for a buck to take its side, the stench of inhumanity is doomed to become worse. Not that Israel always has to pay its champions. There really are perfectly normal-seeming, outwardly calm individuals whose insides are, for reasons they can never properly explain, seething with a need to see more Palestinian children blown to bits. Who would home a kitten, but can't see why indigenous people should have a right to their land. Who can watch the film 'To Kill a Mockingbird', then immediately justify Israeli racism. Whose sense that they're a victim, despite being some of the wealthiest, best educated, most pampered people on earth will always make them swaggering sadists, so long as they have a gun in their hand and America behind them. It is a horrifying lesson. Can people genuinely have convinced themselves that Palestinians are not people just like them? Can they honestly not see that, in a world that is indifferent to barbarism, anyone could be next? The government leaders who stand so staunchly against humanity have much to answer for. The people who elect them too. Evil seems to be everywhere. Can modern society truly feel so beaten, depressed and abused that only a minority of humanity is still humane?
No difference between the Media and the Political class? Not weird or freakish at all - the media are owned by the same billionaires that own the political class, or at least members of the same club.
You know, the 'Big Club' that we are not members of.
May the memory and wisdom of St. George Carlin never die.
Hopefully the memory of Saint George will outlive the dragon that is the Amerikan Empire, whose foreign policy is one of Scorched Earth.
The Truth is all Western politicians, regardless of L-R are controlled by the same Cult. They also control all Western mainstream media. The agenda always stays the same.
We cannot allow Israel to escape the legal consequences of their war crimes. The Hind Rajab Foundation has, among other things, filed a case with the ICC against 1,000 Israeli soldiers for war crimes in Gaza.
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