Wait til the Zoomers figure out that Epstein did what he did because he was running a sexual blackmail operation for Israeli intelligen9⅘ce.
The most significant aspect of the Epstein story is not that he helped some famous people rape minors, it’s that powerful intelligence agencies use child sex slaves and sexual blackmail to exert control over our society."
All this has long been evident. The question is why nobody other than us dissidents and fringe elements are willing to go there.
i absolutely believe it was set up by Mossad and I'm sure the CIA knows about it. and I think Mossad whacked him, although there are many candidates. Just like IDF shoots Israeli hostages.
When I buy anything on eBay, my feedback (after giving 5 stars since that’s what really matters to the seller) is always “Epstein did not kill himself”
I'm reading a good novel called a Strange Habit of Mind by Andrew Klaven, about secret gov't activities to eliminate people and other secret activities.
Duhhhhh lol ( laughing w/ u not at u friend) i pray you are right . Its baffling in 2024 after ALL THE EXPOSED GENOCIDAL LIES, WHO the F would 🤷♀️trust the proPIGanda these reprobate, pathetic excuses for humans create & spread lies like their “plague”? Im always perplexed by the number of sheeple ( i dont buy it) i think thats bs too? Why would anything they push be true or good for us? Every word is self serving treachery & like tom cat i say:
I keep seeing internet rumors of Clinton, Trump, that Zionist shitbrain Dershowitz, et al. having been some of Epstein's proteges of child rape on Lolita Island, but they never get an ounce of traction. The superrich are totally protected from Justice in this craven society. Elon Musk could go around and kill 5 billion people on earth and not a thing would happen to him except allegations no one could ever "prove".
Yes. I remember when this all started, some were gleeful that heads were gonna roll. Nope. Maybe a few minor noggins, but minor noggins were not Epstein's targets.
“ The Divide: American Injustice in the Age of the Wealth Gap is a 2014 non-fiction book by journalist Matt Taibbi about wealth inequality in the United States and its impact on the American conception of justice and the legal system.”
oh Epstein"whacked himself". and Epstein totally "didn't know anybody in Israel". and Mossad simply does not hire people like Epstein. what a fuckin weasel.
The Epstein affair is a public example suggesting intelligence agency activity lying deep under so-called Western democracy.
Another example is Joseph Mifsud.
When the Durham investigation wrapped up, the DNC, the Clinton campaign, the FBI, the Department of Justice (DOJ), other executive branch operatives (both in the Obama and Trump administrations), and British and Australian operatives were "revealed" to have been engaged in an illicit and covert campaign to at least hobble, if not topple, a duly elected US President. This "hidden" campaign was said to have originated with information obtained by an Australian diplomat from (low-level) Trump campaign worker George Papadopoulos, which Australian officials alerted the FBI about.
But there was no curiosity from Durham, the media, or much of anyone else about Mifsud, Papadopoulos's alleged source of information (and a missing person for years!). A list of usual anti-democratic suspects, none held accountable, was offered up, but something much deeper was actually involved in the Russiagate operation against Trump.
Hello I'm from Scotland and I only discovered the genocide issue upon Palestine I stay within ten minutes walk from Raytheon and my local MPs office is next door to the genocide factory. They are arresting and charging people of leadership quality within Palestine solidarity movements .
I mean for instance Mick Napier from Scottish Palestine solidarity campaign got charged with terrorism and he's just an activist that's been on the case since Vietnam war. I've met him before and he's definitely not a terrorist.
ALL $&/7?;@“, even this cartoon self censorship example is subversive bullshit & is threatening what it is to think critically. Humans need to learn how to separate wheat from chaff. You learn by doing & making or seeing errors & good vs bad results too Make choices based on the complete information.☮️❤️🔥
I won't be voting for Biden. I've been a registered Democrat since I turned 18 in 1994. I have always been bullied by shithead white liberals to vote for the lesser evil. When the choice is Genocide Joe or Dictator Donnie, there is no real choice. I won't do it. I'm voting for a candidate who has clear statements on Israel, genocide and holding Israel accountable.
It's sad he won't be on too many states' ballots, though. He threw away all the ballot access the Green Party had lined up for him. Doesn't convince me he's a serious candidate like Jill Stein is.
You might want to watch Jimmy Dore's episode on West -- an Interview with Tucker Carlson. West talks well, but in the end he doesn't have any real plan to change. Carlson identifies him as a neo-liberal.
This presents a problem doesn't it. Because everyone "knows" Tucker Carlson is "evil".
The truth is that Carlson is just a leopard able to change his spots based on how he can best accumulate the largest audience. We saw Rachael Maddow do the same thing. Both come from wealthy backgrounds and are servants of the Oligarchy. Then there was jon Stewart who pinned an award on a known NAZI at Disneyland. There are probably many more examples of "leadership with flexible morals".
Cornell West has a long track record. He’s probably 70 years old. At no point could he be described as “neoliberal”. At every point he has articulated what needs to change. And it begins with morals and values and relationship. He’s been consistent for a half a century on it.
What you are spreading is: dis-information. In plain English: you’re lying.
Dore and West had some heated exchanges. West totally misses Dore's point thus jeopardizing his own campaign. West still supports Biden over Trump as if there is a "lesser evil", which there isn't.
I'm still upset that West abandoned the Peoples Party (with a platform I support) and Nick Branna for the Green Party (which is all over the map).
You want to tell me that I'm not suppose to listen to all sides. You've stuck your head in the sand and refuse to listen to justifiable criticism.
I agree that Biden is more evil than Trump. He tries to come across as the nice man with a twinkle in his eye. Those types are always worse than the ones who are just straightforward assholes that we can plainly see.
No last I checked on his wiki page , he's moved from the Greens to being and Independent. He's still consistent on his policies like others are saying here, just not with the Greens anymore.
Watch how West displayed and disgraced himself in the Jimmy Dore interview. Dore was a solid backer of West at the beginning of the interview and was shaking his head by the end. I was actually quire shocked. The ENTIRE American political scene is a scam. We need direct actions like general strikes, walk-out, targeted boycotts. Anyone playing in the cat tray of American politics is not up to the challenge of what we are confronting.
Yes! Cornel West is probably the best candidate for 2024 (on so many levels).
Unfortunately, MSM won't give him any airtime. Besides that, the general public are too dumbed down (in my opinion) to understand nuanced arguments and wider, more comprehensive perspectives on issues. The general population has been conditioned to have short attention spans - preferring 2-5 minute explanations to complex issues. I fear the US is not ready for a pragmatic intellectual like Cornel West, which is a real pity - not just for the US but for the rest of the world too.
Yes, that is the unfortunate part of the rigged US election system - a false duopoly - in essence there is only one party - the party of the oligarchs.
Evil is subjective to some degree, but it's an absolute objective fact that Tucker is a fucking liar. Case in point (as if it's even needed), in this video he pretends he needs an explanation on capital gains taxes when it's impossible he doesn't know that the main ostensible reason for that difference is to make it easier for retirees relying on stock dividends/gains to get by. Instead of playing stupid and pivoting to anti-woke whining, Tucker should have at least acknowledged it and either made the claim it was a canard (it surely is to some degree) or whatever he needed to make his point. Evil or not, he's trash. People are right not to listen to him.
To the point about Dore's criticism of West, I actually find West's point in the original interview to be convincing that if we simply ignore white supremacy by effectively pretending it doesn't exist (which is indisputably Dore's stated desire with messaging here and exactly why Tucker loves it) then it continues. If Dore thought West would EVER run a campaign leading with de facto "anti-woke" messaging, he's only everything he claims to be all the time: a jaggoff pothead commedian in his garage that doesn't have any brain cells left. In this Tucker interview, reducing it all to "I'm working class and West is a lazy white tower guy that doesn't know shit" I also found to be incredibly weak but also totally routine arrogant Dore whining. This Tucker interview is primarily fragile white men bellyaching. West isn't going to be perfect, criticism is fine, but at no point does West ever come off looking like just another Biden neolib deserving of the silly ranting in this interview and the original. I think West's framing of Trump being more dangerous than Biden in specific ways is totally accurate.
Right or wrong I couldn't help but find Dore's overall reaction to be his standard butthurt 'I did so much for you and you won't agree with and do what I say'. RBN seems to be getting that heat now. Maybe deservedly, I dunno. I can't keep up with Dore Drama as I've sort of moved past him. And considering the Dore cult's track record of favorite candidates, I'm not looking to that sector for guidance on that topic anymore.
Dore never once suggested that West ignore "White Supremacy". He said that if West wanted to run for President of the United States concentrating on a platform of "White Supremacy" will result in a guaranteed loss. Dore offered an alternative, more unifying, campaign option that would talk about class.
Dore is 100% right on. Does West want to win the Presidency or do a Bernie Sanders?
The "more dangerous" issue is the mirror image of the "lesser of two evils" issue. Both completely meaningless.
Nah, what Dore clearly wants is de facto censoring of issues like white supremacy and other oppressed minorities and only talk about class, or nearly so. He has said this repeatedly, in the original interview as well as the Tucker piece. He went on and on about DEI/ESG and LGBT, as if white supremacy is done and dusted since 1990 and these things exist simply to divide us (partly true, but serious baby/bathwater happening here). Given the level of ranting over it repeatedly, I really don't understand how to coherently frame it any other way. It's exactly what Dore "coached".
It's a fair point that anything other than class reductionism/focus would result in a guaranteed loss, I'm really not sure of that though. Regardless, this is fucking Cornell West - he's not going to steer clear of or relegate those issues without coming off as another Yang or Tulsi. I'm really puzzled how anyone thought otherwise without expecting they had some leverage over him.
It's also fair to question whether West intends on a real candidacy or an activist candidacy, everyone should. The answer definitely seems to be more on the activist end and I'm sort of relieved for that because anyone that does a real candidacy ends up almost inevitably corrupted/co-opted (btw exactly what Dore attempted in his interview with West through "coaching"). BTW I think Sanders was absolutely doing a real push to win (both times) but something changed abruptly in 2020 resulting in the campaign scuttling the way that they do when someone is blackmailed or threatened, but it could also be true that he really just didn't want a Nader legacy. I'll never know.
On the lesser of two evils issue (same thing as less dangerous, agree totally), I have to admit I've moved more towards agreeing with the Chomsky approach (voting in national elections can't replace activism for driving change and shouldn't be over-valued that way) on this, but remain of two minds. I think West is correct about Biden vs Trump (or correct enough), but I'm not voting for fucking Genocide Joe tvm. I've found the fawning over one or more hopium candidate every cycle leads to consistent disappointments, in some cases utter failures and in a few they actually turn out to be complete liars. Thus for me there is no voting strategy (lesser evil, 3rd party, don't vote) that is clearly superior and arguing about one or the other is navel gazing, as is a lot of the hand-wringing about the candidates that step forward. They are always going to disappoint, I had enough after watching the tearful come-to-jesus moment over Tulsi's fall from grace. If Dore has the perfect campaign strategy, he should put away the edibles and get out of his garage and make Peoples Party something people can take seriously.
Yes, I too was fooled by Tulsi's act. And John Fetterman's. To put it impolitely, Dore is a slimy snake that will take any side that benefits him. Same with Tucker Carlson.
Yes I don't think genocide is an accurate term. HAMAS is the target and HAMAS hides amongst the population, so more civilians get killed. Israel warns the population before bombing etc but HAMAS won't let them leave. HAMAS is the bad guy.
If you want to say "f*** you to the establishment" then vote third/alternative parties. That drives the status quo crazy! The oligarchs love Biden and Trump alike, so go third party to tell them where to shove it.
I don't think the oligarchs like Trump, in fact I think they are driving the hatred. The oligarchs want war, drugs, terrorism, pandemics, climate change etc because they make a lot of money on them. They are robbing the taxpayer blind. A Trillion buys a lot of infrastructure but it is pissed away elsewhere and pilfered. Trump is a major thorn in their side. Trump does not want war and did not have any in his term, he loves his country IMO and really rocks the boat. I've felt this is what is needed all along. This is why there is so much propaganda against Trump- he's spoiling the fun and is not part of the sicko socio/psychopath scum politicians. He has is ego issues but I've know others like him and they are not bad people. And the psychos want to eliminate the middle class, adopt the China controls, and be at the top of their totem pole. Elon Musk is another one with good intentions. I try to be an independent, rational thinker, open minded and intuitive.
Yes. Biden, Trump-Trump, Biden. Does it matter who gets in? Not to the military industrial complex. I’ll be happy whoever makes it, but I lean towards Trump as I think he’s more likely to bring down the empire than Biden. And I want to live long enough to see it crumble.
The acute and dormant sufferers from TDS should ask themselves this simple question: why are the people you TDS'ers supposedly hate so much trying to take him out so badly? When these people already implemented all you hate and Trump is only supposed to?
I totally agree and hope that lots of citizens (I am not) will vote 3rd party, although let us be realistic: what REAL chance do they have??!! (so most will AGAIN go with the 'lesser evil')
I feel the same way, but it's ultimately pointless to vote 3rd party. No one cares. Dump is the worst choice because he truly intends to become a dictator. He's a racist, misogynistic, white supremacists, thief, traitor, con artist and a malignant narcissist. We shouldn't have these godawful choices, but the whole government has been bought by Zionist money and their carefully crafted false propaganda. Biden was doing pretty darn well until this. I do hate him for it. I keep hoping another Democrat will step up.
I haven’t voted since 2004 ... but it’s ok because that was literally the most important election ever, remember? ... and I’ve never voted for a Republican or Democrat for President. But I’m temped to vote again this year for RFK, Jr.
But you're right about the fear mongering. Every election since Reagan has been the most important election of our lives and the Democrats keep getting more and more right wing. We can fund genocide but not healthcare? No Thanks.
To my traditional liberal Democrat acquaintances -- to whom I can no longer speak calmly -- your brainwashing is more abhorrent than any other characteristic I have ever been asked to overlook in a person well-known to me. For in the face of this slaughter of children, you voice concerns to me about the threat of Trump, the need to elect Democrats this year, restore to power this same group of prevaricating murdering imbeciles who are directly complicit in these merciless actions that urinate on compassion, defecate on any system of ethics I understand as tenable for the co-existence of human beings. Deeply examine yourselves because this is far more despicable than simply Trump derangement syndrome.
I also don’t understand “You guys it’s really really really important that Trump doesn’t get re-elected” so you are proposing to vote for Biden, genocidal Biden, the one that received 4 million from Israel Lobby? Google it, Biden is the highest recipient from Israel money the next politician is less than 2 million. I did not vote for Trump nor like him but at least he didn’t start any wars and did make a Peace proposal, not very fair but at least something that had the two state solution included. Trump can be accused of many things, and I agree in many, but at least he tried peace with North Korea, failed but he tried, unlike every president before. Biden intentionally sent his blood thirsty warmongers to STOP the peace in Ukraine in March 2022. Biden is the only administration in war that has no contact with the opposite side in the Ukraine war and have actively stop any cease fire in Ukraine and now Gaza. They are not just warmongers they are effectively and actively promoting war and genocide. And of course wars that we know and every expert confirms we will loose.
Not true. I’m a never trumper and I don’t support the genocide. But you won’t have a hope in hell of America removing its support for Israel if Trump is elected. Trump simply doesn’t care if Israel commits genocide. He likes Bibi, remember? His son in law and daughter are Jewish and he’s never put another country’s interest above his own - except for our sworn enemy Russia. Biden has told Israel he wants them to stop indiscriminately killing civilians, but Israel is refusing. We should stop sending aid, but they’ve been our ally for decades. I suggest you tweet at Biden and tell him you don’t want to vote for a man who sends money to Israel. If enough people do this, he might listen. I suspect getting re-elected is more important to him. But Trump will never go against what Netanyahu wants.
Biden's "wink, wink" to Israel is the same one every President since Johnson used.
The Biden camp is well aware that I'm not voting for him. No matter how many people tweet at him, he isn't going to change his position. Trump is hoping that I'll vote for him because of how much I despise Biden. We'll see.
A web search of "Trump and Netanyahu" will give you one article where Trump criticizes Bibi followed by another one saying what great friends they are.
The movie "Wag the Dog" was about Israel and how it controlled US foreign policy.
explores the influence of "The Jewish Lobby" (Lawrence Wilkerson's term).
People elected to the Presidency have to walk a very fine line or they end up like JFK. So it is hard to know what Trump may or may not do. But Trump almost negotiated a Peace Deal with North Korea -- that's not "nothing".
I don't see that Biden is less a threat than Trump. Nor is Trump more a threat than Biden. It depends on your "Ox".
I find it amazing that Trump wanted to pull the US out of NATO. He was talked out of it by others. Maybe the war in Ukraine would not have even happened. I don't like Trump at all, and it was probably for weird reasons that he wanted out of NATO, but it might have changed things.
Trump almost negotiated a peace deal with NK? He was being toyed with. The key word in your statement is “almost.” Do you really think he would forgive Trump after he called him names? We never saw any of those supposed “love letters” did we?
So holding emotion and some facts. First I don’t like Trump and would never vote for him, but Trump has had difference with Netanyahu and he is not OWNED by Israel. Biden is the single politician in history with largest amount of money received from Israel Lobby. This is public and factual information easy to corroborate, Google it. The next recipient of Israel money is senator Menéndez yes Mr Honesty , all other politicians are half or less. So when you are the recipients of millions (some official numbers are over $4 million , but some claim that is over $10 million through different pro Israel Pacs) but the official record speaks very clear where his loyalty goes. Obama select him as VP mainly because Obama had not good relationship with AIPAC and Biden brought those donations. Biden has history of pro Israel and a personal friendship with Netanyahu that goes decades since he was a senator ( another easy to corroborate fact) Trump is not a personal friend of Netanyahu and he pushed him for his “Peace for prosperity Palestine” please take a minute and Google that proposal, at least calls for two state solution, not the best but much better where we are today. Finally on the Bolton issue, please read Botton’s book where Bolton criticize Trump for not going to war with Iran and how he and Pompei met every morning planing how to convince Trump for bellicose actions, where Trump was the only one concerned with civilians casualties and he did stop many proposed attacks. Trump has a lot of problems but warmonger is not one. His NATO proposal was very rational, why do we need to maintain at taxpayer expense over 800 military bases all over the world to protect countries that are not willing to pay their portion?
Trump is a boor. But I don’t see how his “foreign policy” could possibly be worse than ByeDone’s. At the very least, I don’t believe he’d have cheerfully given billions of our tax dollars to Ukrainazia.
Trump's main strength is that he is totally unwilling to go to war for the neocons..He's way too pro-Israel for my taste, but he will not start a war in the ME for any reason...THAT is a major reason they are trying to force him out of the race...the jewish neocons want WW3...
I don't agree, although that helped...Trump didn't get into any wars, and tried to pull out of Afghanistan, but got overruled somehow...The neocon crazies don't need any actual cause to start a war with someone, check out the heinous Libya bombing. by Hillary...
Trump tried twice to pull out Syria, but cucked out on both occasions. He also attacked Syria twice and expanded US military presence there. Hardly a Profile In Courage.
Regarding Afghanistan, Trump basically set up the withdrawal for after 2020. Hence, it became Biden's problem.
Concerning Iran, you don’t murder their top general, invited into Iraq by the regime we installed, then claim you don't want war.
And when Trump realized what Bolton was really up to, he fired him...Better late than never! Trump sometimes seems to be a slow learner, but he doesn't do war....
that Trump only realized what Bolton was after he appointed him means he is either retarded or really doesn't care about neocons as long as they polish his knob, or both
Trump gave Netanyahu a penthouse suite in New York Trump Tower. He has development contracts through his kid with Netanyahu to develop the stolen Palestinians lands! He is presently cheering on the destruction and genocide being done in Gaza and wants an active war with Iran. So there is your answer as to what we are in for if he gets in office. Not more of the same but worse! I say vote Jill Stein and she is presently doing better in the polls and does have the best chance of winning! This is the perfect time since at the bare minimum 63% of the people support her statements and she wants us out of all wars and every single thing is for the people not the Criminal Elite.
I am afraid you are right but it gets even worse. I watch Glenn Greenwald and his last edition brought to light some things that make it apparent that the Criminal Elite are about to call Trump supporters as domestic terrorist and take away their rights to vote! Then today I see on X that the DOJ is openly now going after anyone from J6 even if they didn't enter the capital. We have been played I believe as this is meant to eliminate any type of actual opposition that would stand a chance of taking back control. When J6 happened I immediately said it was a plan that was basically a dry run so they would be able to learn how to control an actual revolt. Now they are playing the rest of the hand.
Poor desperate Americans! Don't know who to vote for.... in a government of the oligarchs; by the oligarchs; for the oligarchs. Whoever thought it was "government of the people; by the people; for the people"... .
Trump was just marginally better than Biden. Sure there would not have been war between Russia and Ukraine with a second Trump term. However he would have been no better or maybe even worse than Biden with the Middle East. Don’t forget he ordered the assassination of Soliemani and there’s a town named after him on the illegally occupied Golan Heights. And both Trump and Biden have been sabre rattling at China. Not an American, but if I was and voting I would probably vote for progressive Democrats down ballot and just leave the vote for President blank.
A number of you seem to be trapped in duopoly thinking, whether D-R, Lib-Conserv, or whatever dualism fits best. I'm not advocating for Trump, merely pointing out the insanity of the enthusiasm for restoring a status quo that's complicit in genocide. For anyone who believes in voting for corrupt politicians as a solution, at least express disaffection by voting different -- non-duopoly. Count your (supposedly wasted) vote as a protest, an indicator of refusal to support a status quo where to even rise to candidacy in either major party requires a candidate to sell their soul to repulsive plutocrats who'd just as soon see you evaporate as address your concerns. The only way out of this in NOT through either major party. Imagine 10% of the electorate voting "neither". Hardly a revolution, but at least the beginnings of a rumble. I haven't voted duopoly since 1988, nor will I ever again.
Yes, but so are most in DC. I don't think Trump has reached the degeneracy of certain Dem progeny. Looks to me like all of DC is intent on using "society" to amass power, inflict damage and extract money. the Dems only see issues as campaign fodder. I see no one to vote for, really, and also I am not sure that our electoral process has f**k-all to to with "democracy".
None of that means I support Trump, by the way, I am tired of that zero-sum sophistry that seems like an automatic whack-a-mole response from Dems. (Not aimed at you, just something I have noticed in general).
Please? Save your frustration for someone who doesn't get it. Granted. Nor did I say -- or imply -- that it was. But if you're intent on throwing around "Fascist", it'd be a lot more accurate to simply use "authoritarian", or even "unelected authoritarian" to describe the current crew -- as in unelected Blinken assuming the role of an elected president by declaring an emergency need to bypass congress and send "emergency" munitions to Israel. Functionally, there is precious little difference in the authoritarian functioning of our supposed republic under either cadre of corrupt sycophants for big money. And of course voting alone solves very little because the economic structures of crony capitalism remain firmly in place as the substrate for either subtly creeping or rudely overt authoritarian decisions designed to sustain that very possibility of the continued flourishing of the best democracy (tongue-in-cheek) money can buy. Trump's version is merely less polite, but neither version moves us anywhere but one step closer to the cliff that awaits all empires clinging to violence as a last gasp.
It's remarkable how far down a dead end road unexamined beliefs can take one. How hard to dislodge one's sense of identity with one's own belief systems. Perhaps why a steady diet of books and listening to a variety of people - might help break up the concrete rigidity of your to much hardened beliefs - which sometimes (or even often) are not correct. Should also mention, even listening to one's own unconscious via dreams helps dislodge the ego from its rigidity.
"Israel apologists pretend to be standing up for Jews when they’re really just standing up for a government. They’re garden variety bootlickers, the same as any empire simp you see shrieking at people for criticizing western warmongering. They’re just slobbering over state power."
My thoughts exactly. Let's call these aggressive apologists what they really are: "Fanatical Volunteers for Apartheid, Ethnic-Cleansing, and Genocide".
They'll do whatever it takes -- lie, spin, smear, cancel anyone who dares criticize, or even question, their Idol State.
I really don't think Trump can win again but even if he does I really hope there would be no more Israel at that point. Israel has exposed itself as a nation of parasites and world would be a much better place without it.
"The most significant aspect of the Epstein story is not that he helped some famous people rape minors, it’s that powerful intelligence agencies use child sex slaves and sexual blackmail to exert control over our society."
Caitlin makes excellent points, and when actually reading and thinking about them, I say to myself how can such a large number of people be so ignorant to believe all the lies and propaganda and support such inhumanity. Of course the answer may be some innate error in our genetic makeup, the same error that has us destroying the Earth, its animals, and soon most life in the rush to the 6th Extinction Event.
Some particularly odious issues--
We may get Trump as potus again because the DNC sabotaged a primary contest within the Party, brought on by corporate bribed officials and the arms industry. And maybe there is a little blackmail going on also in the background?
It is the sickest situation when peace loving protesters and active environmentalists can be labeled as terrorists and their lives instantly ruined by a government that jails them and financially ruins them, and in some instances tortures them. Are we struggling to keep our Democracy or a fascist state? Look at Assange and fear. Look at Mandela and hope.
Many major cities have since after 911 sponsored and paid for their police and others to go to Israel for training in their style of anti-terror tactics. There is a bonding between police departments here and the state of Israel, and if labeled a antisemite in the U.S., beware. This situation probably is present in other countries as well. The militarization of the locals in charge of protecting us is frightening and ominous.
So what is around the corner? Will major nations of the world coalesce to bring the U.S. Empire to its knees, or will change come from within, with strikes and open revolution and decay? Or both?
I lost a supposedly good friend this past week, who advocates for the continued mass slaughter in Gaza. He advocates killing as many innocents as necessary to eventually destroy Hamas. His
excuse, “that is the way of the world, always has been”. He became incensed when I suggested he was a wannabe fascist.
I am no longer on speaking terms with three in-laws because they treat the decimation of Gaza like it’s a sports contest. “Oh, and let’s bomb Iran too!”
Once I cut ties, it’s forever. I neither forgive nor forget.
I know what you mean. It's a pretty tough decision. For me, I'm in the process of cutting off ties with my entire family (it's going to get lonely) - they're generally nice people, but they have been so brainwashed by ZioNazi ideology that it is difficult to have a conversation with them. It's shocking how people close to you that you thought were "good", "decent" people let you down when challenging circumstances highlight their true colors.
It's depressing, because I would really like to reason with them based on facts and critical thinking, but their minds are shut-off and non-receptive. It's impossible to debate/converse with someone when their only strategy is to use emotions.
I may not forget, but I need to learn to forgive - not for their sake, but for my own peace of mind.
I know well what you mean. I truly would have liked as you did to have a proper discussion with my family too but it is something that I just can't get through to that mind underneath the propaganda. It astonishes me to see someone who I always thought could see truth for truth be as blind as the darkest room could make anyone be
I too will NEVER understand why some “people” believe it’s fine and dandy to decimate an entire population. (Ironically, these same people love to accuse Russia of brutality and war crimes.)
Oddly, the one I didn’t cut ties with is my evangelical SIL, because she is an otherwise lovely person and we have a good history together despite our opposing beliefs.
The three I DID cut off didn’t mean a flying fuck to me anyways. I don’t even think about them anymore. Once that door has slammed, it stays shut.
God, it’s so depressing to witness people around you being soooo inhumane, corrupt and downright evil. This whole horror show has removed the mask off the West and it’s greed and corruption . How indescribably cruel it would be if they win .
I think it depends who wields the argument as to whether it's only meant for fetuses. I like to raise it because most "pro-lifers" I know are so smugly self-righteous about it and holding it up to make them face how that label is a farce is both satisfying and potentially a seed of doubt about their own principles (although many are incapable of that level of self-examination).
Reading Caitlin's Newsletter is like therapy for me. It validates my feelings and thinking at this critical juncture of human life on this planet. I cannot speak to my father or sisters about politics as my sisters are ardent Biden supporters and my Dad? He worked in Jerusalem for the Empire back in the 80s. They have all exiled and abandoned me before and now I stay in touch just to know how we all end up.
I really appreciate your laser focus on Palestine. It is ridiculous to worry about Trump or even mention his name at this point.
The world is upside down when the President of Harvard is black listed, (pardon the term) because a few angry and powerless students suggested an intifada against Israel, while the entire US government is in the act of committing genocide against the Palestinians. Try putting that comment in the New York Times and it will be rejected as being hate speech.
Caitlin's rationality in the face of irrational extemism/fascism is much needed daily medicine. Rationality always fights an uphill battle against ideological fanatics, or sociopathic power maniacs - who appear willing to blow up the world if they don't get their way.
We have been pointing out that Israel is a lawless apartheid State that is parasitic on the US government and taxpayer since the 1980s...but people "just smile and turn away."...It's an unpleasant fact that needs to be ignored in their minds...Now the Zoomers and the Millennials are willing to face these unpleasant facts, while the Boomers and Gen X won't...It's just a matter of time...Many of the pro-Palestinian protestors at Harvard were Jewish....
I’m a Boomer ( born in 1962 ) but this war and all it’s revelations about western society has made me swallow the red pill. My attitude has changed beyond recognition . I have dared to speak to some of my neighbours who purport to be Christians. They believe this war was referred to in the Old Testament and marks the return of Christ . Christian Zionists ?
The Ghislaine Maxwell trial also was most instructive. To judge from the public record, she ever always only trafficked girls to Epstein, who just happened to be - oopsies! - dead!
For some mysterious reason, Epstein's and Maxwell's friends all were left out of it. Golly gee!
"It honestly blows my mind that there are still people adamantly supporting Israel after all this. After all the people they’ve killed. After all the lies they’ve been caught in. After all their comments endorsing genocide and ethnic cleansing, and all their actions showing they mean it."
Because Our Team, and yes, Israel means it, and yes, these people cheer with delight at the sight of murdered human kittens.
On a slightly different topic, it is interesting that one of the biggest current flashpoints involves the Houthis in Yemen and their actions in the Red Sea.
In Yemen, of course, until recently people had to put up with conditions which were, in some ways very similar to those in Gaza today - like the bombing of civilians, and of civilian infrastructure - and a blockade which led to a massive humanitarian catastrophe with hundreds of thousands of deaths. The important thing to notice, of course, is that the big Nation behind Saudi Arabia's assault on Yemen was exactly the same big Nation that is behind Israel's assault on Gaza. And the people of Yemen are very well aware of this. Which, I suspect, is why, they are doing what they are doing in the Red Sea at the moment.
The Houthis have no corrupt and venal leaders to sanction, no western toys to take. They have nothing to lose and zero fucks left to give.
The Yemeni tribesmen have seen off the Ottomans, the British, the Egyptians and the Saudis, to give a partial list. There are numerous and satisfying recent videos out there of Houthis ambushing and bushwhacking Saudi columns.
Wait til the Zoomers figure out that Epstein did what he did because he was running a sexual blackmail operation for Israeli intelligen9⅘ce.
The most significant aspect of the Epstein story is not that he helped some famous people rape minors, it’s that powerful intelligence agencies use child sex slaves and sexual blackmail to exert control over our society."
All this has long been evident. The question is why nobody other than us dissidents and fringe elements are willing to go there.
And, lest anyone still have any lingering doubts:
Epstein Didn't Kill Himself.
Epstein killed himself just like Russia blew up its own Nordstream pipeline.
Western media is like a big old choir.
And a 1 and a 2 and a 3... (altogether now) ...
♫♪ The Hunter Biden laptop bears all the hallmarks Russian of disinformation ♪♫
Can we even be certain it was his corpse in that cell?
cmon there was an autopsy. he knew too much. easier just to whack him than engage in some mission impossible movie style operation.
The whole sex trafficing ring seems like that too .
Except it's belivable Israel had that setup going to huney trap leaders. Its so typical Mossad and cia
i absolutely believe it was set up by Mossad and I'm sure the CIA knows about it. and I think Mossad whacked him, although there are many candidates. Just like IDF shoots Israeli hostages.
Hanabal directive
Samson option
CIA and Mossad are one and the same.
They are all in a death cult. Obsessed with world domination and controll. Yet they point a craggy finger at Russia and China
NO WE CANNOT 🫲😂🙈😉🤌💸⚖️
That's not what Rachel Maddow said on MSNBC.
Well, I guess that answers it, then!
Hahahahaha!! Rachel Madcow is such a truth-teller. Hahahahaha!!
Careful dont catch “Maddow”desease from being fed your fellow human
Too late.
Madcow is a contagion be very careful
Is there a vaccination I can take?
just ear masks work well
Roger
When I buy anything on eBay, my feedback (after giving 5 stars since that’s what really matters to the seller) is always “Epstein did not kill himself”
I'm reading a good novel called a Strange Habit of Mind by Andrew Klaven, about secret gov't activities to eliminate people and other secret activities.
It’s baffling
Duhhhhh lol ( laughing w/ u not at u friend) i pray you are right . Its baffling in 2024 after ALL THE EXPOSED GENOCIDAL LIES, WHO the F would 🤷♀️trust the proPIGanda these reprobate, pathetic excuses for humans create & spread lies like their “plague”? Im always perplexed by the number of sheeple ( i dont buy it) i think thats bs too? Why would anything they push be true or good for us? Every word is self serving treachery & like tom cat i say:
”DONT YOU BELIEVE IT “ Tom & Jerry 1930’s☮️❤️🔥
I keep seeing internet rumors of Clinton, Trump, that Zionist shitbrain Dershowitz, et al. having been some of Epstein's proteges of child rape on Lolita Island, but they never get an ounce of traction. The superrich are totally protected from Justice in this craven society. Elon Musk could go around and kill 5 billion people on earth and not a thing would happen to him except allegations no one could ever "prove".
Yes. I remember when this all started, some were gleeful that heads were gonna roll. Nope. Maybe a few minor noggins, but minor noggins were not Epstein's targets.
This book by Matt Taibbi should be required reading for any adult who wants to participate in politics and society. It’s a wakeup call
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divide:_American_Injustice_in_the_Age_of_the_Wealth_Gap
“ The Divide: American Injustice in the Age of the Wealth Gap is a 2014 non-fiction book by journalist Matt Taibbi about wealth inequality in the United States and its impact on the American conception of justice and the legal system.”
That goes for Taibbi's "Hate, Inc." as well.
i think there is some new corraboration of Dershowitz' conduct on Epstein Island. the man could not be more vile.
I think the term "Zionazi" was coined to describe Dershowitz.
If he’s a man at all.
His latest appearance on Kim Iverson was quite revealing. LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5kE3gJWhAE
LOL thanks for the link. I love how he started squirming.
oh Epstein"whacked himself". and Epstein totally "didn't know anybody in Israel". and Mossad simply does not hire people like Epstein. what a fuckin weasel.
there are a lot of skeletons in a lot of closets, that's why.
The Epstein affair is a public example suggesting intelligence agency activity lying deep under so-called Western democracy.
Another example is Joseph Mifsud.
When the Durham investigation wrapped up, the DNC, the Clinton campaign, the FBI, the Department of Justice (DOJ), other executive branch operatives (both in the Obama and Trump administrations), and British and Australian operatives were "revealed" to have been engaged in an illicit and covert campaign to at least hobble, if not topple, a duly elected US President. This "hidden" campaign was said to have originated with information obtained by an Australian diplomat from (low-level) Trump campaign worker George Papadopoulos, which Australian officials alerted the FBI about.
But there was no curiosity from Durham, the media, or much of anyone else about Mifsud, Papadopoulos's alleged source of information (and a missing person for years!). A list of usual anti-democratic suspects, none held accountable, was offered up, but something much deeper was actually involved in the Russiagate operation against Trump.
Simple...they can't live in that world.
The blackmail involved plenty of tapes. So, where *are* the tapes?
I think China does this too but using using Chinese women seducing their targets.
Hello I'm from Scotland and I only discovered the genocide issue upon Palestine I stay within ten minutes walk from Raytheon and my local MPs office is next door to the genocide factory. They are arresting and charging people of leadership quality within Palestine solidarity movements .
I mean for instance Mick Napier from Scottish Palestine solidarity campaign got charged with terrorism and he's just an activist that's been on the case since Vietnam war. I've met him before and he's definitely not a terrorist.
He's a man of peace ✌️🇵🇸
Sorry meant to say I discovered the Palestine genocide in 2014 genocide campaign.
For that matter, Craig Murray also was jailed in trumped up charges.
yeah and several others, and they tried with Salmond.
The censorship is an outrage.
ALL CENSORSHIP is UNACCEPTABLE
ALL $&/7?;@“, even this cartoon self censorship example is subversive bullshit & is threatening what it is to think critically. Humans need to learn how to separate wheat from chaff. You learn by doing & making or seeing errors & good vs bad results too Make choices based on the complete information.☮️❤️🔥
Art gets around the algorithm unless you heavily shadow banned 😔🚫
I won't be voting for Biden. I've been a registered Democrat since I turned 18 in 1994. I have always been bullied by shithead white liberals to vote for the lesser evil. When the choice is Genocide Joe or Dictator Donnie, there is no real choice. I won't do it. I'm voting for a candidate who has clear statements on Israel, genocide and holding Israel accountable.
Cornel West or Jill Stein
Dr. West for me, Bill. I love that man’s PASSION.
It's sad he won't be on too many states' ballots, though. He threw away all the ballot access the Green Party had lined up for him. Doesn't convince me he's a serious candidate like Jill Stein is.
You might want to watch Jimmy Dore's episode on West -- an Interview with Tucker Carlson. West talks well, but in the end he doesn't have any real plan to change. Carlson identifies him as a neo-liberal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQX4MyTMAY4
This presents a problem doesn't it. Because everyone "knows" Tucker Carlson is "evil".
The truth is that Carlson is just a leopard able to change his spots based on how he can best accumulate the largest audience. We saw Rachael Maddow do the same thing. Both come from wealthy backgrounds and are servants of the Oligarchy. Then there was jon Stewart who pinned an award on a known NAZI at Disneyland. There are probably many more examples of "leadership with flexible morals".
CNN does not change it's spots, it just adjusts the truth a bit
https://truthout.org/articles/report-all-cnn-gaza-coverage-seen-by-bureau-monitored-by-idf-before-publication/
Wrong wrong wrong.
Cornell West has a long track record. He’s probably 70 years old. At no point could he be described as “neoliberal”. At every point he has articulated what needs to change. And it begins with morals and values and relationship. He’s been consistent for a half a century on it.
What you are spreading is: dis-information. In plain English: you’re lying.
You've offered nothing to counter my Jimmy Dore reference nor do you acknowledge the conundrum it presents.
West did a 45 minute commercial for Biden on Dore's show back in September.
https://scheerpost.com/2023/09/07/jimmy-dore-and-cornel-west-get-into-heated-discussion-on-campaign-messaging/
Dore and West had some heated exchanges. West totally misses Dore's point thus jeopardizing his own campaign. West still supports Biden over Trump as if there is a "lesser evil", which there isn't.
I'm still upset that West abandoned the Peoples Party (with a platform I support) and Nick Branna for the Green Party (which is all over the map).
You want to tell me that I'm not suppose to listen to all sides. You've stuck your head in the sand and refuse to listen to justifiable criticism.
look if we are straight up voting lesser evil, i think Biden is more evil than Trump. im just not gonna vote.
I agree that Biden is more evil than Trump. He tries to come across as the nice man with a twinkle in his eye. Those types are always worse than the ones who are just straightforward assholes that we can plainly see.
Focus on issues and actions, not personality. Problem is it is hard to get the truth, there is so much propaganda.
Agree.
No last I checked on his wiki page , he's moved from the Greens to being and Independent. He's still consistent on his policies like others are saying here, just not with the Greens anymore.
Wow. So next week he will be a Democrat and the week after a Republican and the week after that a communist?
Dore was giving good advice. West needs some consistency.
Jimmy Bore? If you are getting your information from that crackhead God help you.
Dore is not a crackhead. He's a pothead, which he readily acknowledges.
Denzel Washington played a drunk who was almost as much a hero as Sully.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_(2012_film)
Your ad hominem attack on Dore accomplishes nothing. Might as well insult him because his family is full of cops. or because he grew up in Chicago.
His interview stands on its own with some outstanding political insights.
You missed the point. The information is not anything Dore said about West; the information is what West said on Dore's show.
Who's "Jimmy Bore"? Or is it a juvenile jab? How old are you?
Seems most have their head stuck somewhere so they don't have to think.
People's Party doesn't look like a real platform to me. I wish it was, and I was really excited about it when it launched, but no.
Watch how West displayed and disgraced himself in the Jimmy Dore interview. Dore was a solid backer of West at the beginning of the interview and was shaking his head by the end. I was actually quire shocked. The ENTIRE American political scene is a scam. We need direct actions like general strikes, walk-out, targeted boycotts. Anyone playing in the cat tray of American politics is not up to the challenge of what we are confronting.
The game is rigged. Time to change the game. The game is ... https://mark192.substack.com/p/america-summed-up-in-a-quote-a-cartoon?utm_campaign=reaction&utm_medium=email&utm_source=substack&utm_content=post
The elections are rigged too. And both sides know it. Almost all of them are compromised and have to go along with it.
Yes! Cornel West is probably the best candidate for 2024 (on so many levels).
Unfortunately, MSM won't give him any airtime. Besides that, the general public are too dumbed down (in my opinion) to understand nuanced arguments and wider, more comprehensive perspectives on issues. The general population has been conditioned to have short attention spans - preferring 2-5 minute explanations to complex issues. I fear the US is not ready for a pragmatic intellectual like Cornel West, which is a real pity - not just for the US but for the rest of the world too.
Yes, that is the unfortunate part of the rigged US election system - a false duopoly - in essence there is only one party - the party of the oligarchs.
Evil is subjective to some degree, but it's an absolute objective fact that Tucker is a fucking liar. Case in point (as if it's even needed), in this video he pretends he needs an explanation on capital gains taxes when it's impossible he doesn't know that the main ostensible reason for that difference is to make it easier for retirees relying on stock dividends/gains to get by. Instead of playing stupid and pivoting to anti-woke whining, Tucker should have at least acknowledged it and either made the claim it was a canard (it surely is to some degree) or whatever he needed to make his point. Evil or not, he's trash. People are right not to listen to him.
To the point about Dore's criticism of West, I actually find West's point in the original interview to be convincing that if we simply ignore white supremacy by effectively pretending it doesn't exist (which is indisputably Dore's stated desire with messaging here and exactly why Tucker loves it) then it continues. If Dore thought West would EVER run a campaign leading with de facto "anti-woke" messaging, he's only everything he claims to be all the time: a jaggoff pothead commedian in his garage that doesn't have any brain cells left. In this Tucker interview, reducing it all to "I'm working class and West is a lazy white tower guy that doesn't know shit" I also found to be incredibly weak but also totally routine arrogant Dore whining. This Tucker interview is primarily fragile white men bellyaching. West isn't going to be perfect, criticism is fine, but at no point does West ever come off looking like just another Biden neolib deserving of the silly ranting in this interview and the original. I think West's framing of Trump being more dangerous than Biden in specific ways is totally accurate.
Right or wrong I couldn't help but find Dore's overall reaction to be his standard butthurt 'I did so much for you and you won't agree with and do what I say'. RBN seems to be getting that heat now. Maybe deservedly, I dunno. I can't keep up with Dore Drama as I've sort of moved past him. And considering the Dore cult's track record of favorite candidates, I'm not looking to that sector for guidance on that topic anymore.
I see you too missed Dore's point.
Dore never once suggested that West ignore "White Supremacy". He said that if West wanted to run for President of the United States concentrating on a platform of "White Supremacy" will result in a guaranteed loss. Dore offered an alternative, more unifying, campaign option that would talk about class.
Dore is 100% right on. Does West want to win the Presidency or do a Bernie Sanders?
The "more dangerous" issue is the mirror image of the "lesser of two evils" issue. Both completely meaningless.
Nah, what Dore clearly wants is de facto censoring of issues like white supremacy and other oppressed minorities and only talk about class, or nearly so. He has said this repeatedly, in the original interview as well as the Tucker piece. He went on and on about DEI/ESG and LGBT, as if white supremacy is done and dusted since 1990 and these things exist simply to divide us (partly true, but serious baby/bathwater happening here). Given the level of ranting over it repeatedly, I really don't understand how to coherently frame it any other way. It's exactly what Dore "coached".
It's a fair point that anything other than class reductionism/focus would result in a guaranteed loss, I'm really not sure of that though. Regardless, this is fucking Cornell West - he's not going to steer clear of or relegate those issues without coming off as another Yang or Tulsi. I'm really puzzled how anyone thought otherwise without expecting they had some leverage over him.
It's also fair to question whether West intends on a real candidacy or an activist candidacy, everyone should. The answer definitely seems to be more on the activist end and I'm sort of relieved for that because anyone that does a real candidacy ends up almost inevitably corrupted/co-opted (btw exactly what Dore attempted in his interview with West through "coaching"). BTW I think Sanders was absolutely doing a real push to win (both times) but something changed abruptly in 2020 resulting in the campaign scuttling the way that they do when someone is blackmailed or threatened, but it could also be true that he really just didn't want a Nader legacy. I'll never know.
On the lesser of two evils issue (same thing as less dangerous, agree totally), I have to admit I've moved more towards agreeing with the Chomsky approach (voting in national elections can't replace activism for driving change and shouldn't be over-valued that way) on this, but remain of two minds. I think West is correct about Biden vs Trump (or correct enough), but I'm not voting for fucking Genocide Joe tvm. I've found the fawning over one or more hopium candidate every cycle leads to consistent disappointments, in some cases utter failures and in a few they actually turn out to be complete liars. Thus for me there is no voting strategy (lesser evil, 3rd party, don't vote) that is clearly superior and arguing about one or the other is navel gazing, as is a lot of the hand-wringing about the candidates that step forward. They are always going to disappoint, I had enough after watching the tearful come-to-jesus moment over Tulsi's fall from grace. If Dore has the perfect campaign strategy, he should put away the edibles and get out of his garage and make Peoples Party something people can take seriously.
Again, well said. Thank you!
Yes, I too was fooled by Tulsi's act. And John Fetterman's. To put it impolitely, Dore is a slimy snake that will take any side that benefits him. Same with Tucker Carlson.
hierochloe: Extremely well said and analyzed. Thank you! My sentiments exactly.
Vivek for me, but I like very much like Jill Stein.
You might want to watch (listen to) Jimmy Dore's interview interview with Ramaswamy. He fully supports the genocide in Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7g5oAcvRiI
There are several other videos with and about Ramaswamy.
Yes I don't think genocide is an accurate term. HAMAS is the target and HAMAS hides amongst the population, so more civilians get killed. Israel warns the population before bombing etc but HAMAS won't let them leave. HAMAS is the bad guy.
You, me, and about a hundred other voters.
Hi Sarah
I voted for ByeDone ( shame on me) “because he wasn’t Trump”.
Previously to that, I’ve been voting third party for many election cycles.
Ralph Nader was my favorite. Who better to run the country than someone who dedicated his life to the safety of the American people?
I come from the left, but voting for Trump seems to be the best way of saying Fuck You to the establishment.
If you want to say "f*** you to the establishment" then vote third/alternative parties. That drives the status quo crazy! The oligarchs love Biden and Trump alike, so go third party to tell them where to shove it.
I don't think the oligarchs like Trump, in fact I think they are driving the hatred. The oligarchs want war, drugs, terrorism, pandemics, climate change etc because they make a lot of money on them. They are robbing the taxpayer blind. A Trillion buys a lot of infrastructure but it is pissed away elsewhere and pilfered. Trump is a major thorn in their side. Trump does not want war and did not have any in his term, he loves his country IMO and really rocks the boat. I've felt this is what is needed all along. This is why there is so much propaganda against Trump- he's spoiling the fun and is not part of the sicko socio/psychopath scum politicians. He has is ego issues but I've know others like him and they are not bad people. And the psychos want to eliminate the middle class, adopt the China controls, and be at the top of their totem pole. Elon Musk is another one with good intentions. I try to be an independent, rational thinker, open minded and intuitive.
Yes. Biden, Trump-Trump, Biden. Does it matter who gets in? Not to the military industrial complex. I’ll be happy whoever makes it, but I lean towards Trump as I think he’s more likely to bring down the empire than Biden. And I want to live long enough to see it crumble.
That's what he wants people to think. But he is far from anti-establishment.
But there has to be a reason the establishment is working so hard to get rid of him.
Indeed.
The acute and dormant sufferers from TDS should ask themselves this simple question: why are the people you TDS'ers supposedly hate so much trying to take him out so badly? When these people already implemented all you hate and Trump is only supposed to?
Because our various puppets and vassals are less likely to blindly follow an America where Trump is in charge.
He's undignified.
I totally agree and hope that lots of citizens (I am not) will vote 3rd party, although let us be realistic: what REAL chance do they have??!! (so most will AGAIN go with the 'lesser evil')
There is no lesser evil between those two.
I feel the same way, but it's ultimately pointless to vote 3rd party. No one cares. Dump is the worst choice because he truly intends to become a dictator. He's a racist, misogynistic, white supremacists, thief, traitor, con artist and a malignant narcissist. We shouldn't have these godawful choices, but the whole government has been bought by Zionist money and their carefully crafted false propaganda. Biden was doing pretty darn well until this. I do hate him for it. I keep hoping another Democrat will step up.
I haven’t voted since 2004 ... but it’s ok because that was literally the most important election ever, remember? ... and I’ve never voted for a Republican or Democrat for President. But I’m temped to vote again this year for RFK, Jr.
But you're right about the fear mongering. Every election since Reagan has been the most important election of our lives and the Democrats keep getting more and more right wing. We can fund genocide but not healthcare? No Thanks.
He is too conspiracy theory for me and his vocal fry is too strong.
Maybe if CIA killed your father and uncle you’d be a little conspiracy theorist too. ;)
Damnit! Regan was the most important election ever? I was born too late.
To my traditional liberal Democrat acquaintances -- to whom I can no longer speak calmly -- your brainwashing is more abhorrent than any other characteristic I have ever been asked to overlook in a person well-known to me. For in the face of this slaughter of children, you voice concerns to me about the threat of Trump, the need to elect Democrats this year, restore to power this same group of prevaricating murdering imbeciles who are directly complicit in these merciless actions that urinate on compassion, defecate on any system of ethics I understand as tenable for the co-existence of human beings. Deeply examine yourselves because this is far more despicable than simply Trump derangement syndrome.
I also don’t understand “You guys it’s really really really important that Trump doesn’t get re-elected” so you are proposing to vote for Biden, genocidal Biden, the one that received 4 million from Israel Lobby? Google it, Biden is the highest recipient from Israel money the next politician is less than 2 million. I did not vote for Trump nor like him but at least he didn’t start any wars and did make a Peace proposal, not very fair but at least something that had the two state solution included. Trump can be accused of many things, and I agree in many, but at least he tried peace with North Korea, failed but he tried, unlike every president before. Biden intentionally sent his blood thirsty warmongers to STOP the peace in Ukraine in March 2022. Biden is the only administration in war that has no contact with the opposite side in the Ukraine war and have actively stop any cease fire in Ukraine and now Gaza. They are not just warmongers they are effectively and actively promoting war and genocide. And of course wars that we know and every expert confirms we will loose.
Trump would be just as bad on Middle East foreign policy.
Perhaps. Perhaps not.
It is the "never trumpets" that are the most rabid supporters of the genocide.
Not true. I’m a never trumper and I don’t support the genocide. But you won’t have a hope in hell of America removing its support for Israel if Trump is elected. Trump simply doesn’t care if Israel commits genocide. He likes Bibi, remember? His son in law and daughter are Jewish and he’s never put another country’s interest above his own - except for our sworn enemy Russia. Biden has told Israel he wants them to stop indiscriminately killing civilians, but Israel is refusing. We should stop sending aid, but they’ve been our ally for decades. I suggest you tweet at Biden and tell him you don’t want to vote for a man who sends money to Israel. If enough people do this, he might listen. I suspect getting re-elected is more important to him. But Trump will never go against what Netanyahu wants.
Russia is not our sworn enemy.
We have made it our enemy, because Russia has refused to take orders.
https://science1arts2and3politics.substack.com/p/when-did-cold-war-ii-begin
You're maybe an exception to the rule.
Biden's "wink, wink" to Israel is the same one every President since Johnson used.
The Biden camp is well aware that I'm not voting for him. No matter how many people tweet at him, he isn't going to change his position. Trump is hoping that I'll vote for him because of how much I despise Biden. We'll see.
A web search of "Trump and Netanyahu" will give you one article where Trump criticizes Bibi followed by another one saying what great friends they are.
The movie "Wag the Dog" was about Israel and how it controlled US foreign policy.
The documentary "The Lobby" (two separate 4 part shows) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lSjXhMUVKE&t=4s
explores the influence of "The Jewish Lobby" (Lawrence Wilkerson's term).
People elected to the Presidency have to walk a very fine line or they end up like JFK. So it is hard to know what Trump may or may not do. But Trump almost negotiated a Peace Deal with North Korea -- that's not "nothing".
I don't see that Biden is less a threat than Trump. Nor is Trump more a threat than Biden. It depends on your "Ox".
I find it amazing that Trump wanted to pull the US out of NATO. He was talked out of it by others. Maybe the war in Ukraine would not have even happened. I don't like Trump at all, and it was probably for weird reasons that he wanted out of NATO, but it might have changed things.
Trump moved the Israeli capital to Jerusalem ffs!!
Trump almost negotiated a peace deal with NK? He was being toyed with. The key word in your statement is “almost.” Do you really think he would forgive Trump after he called him names? We never saw any of those supposed “love letters” did we?
Not true.
So holding emotion and some facts. First I don’t like Trump and would never vote for him, but Trump has had difference with Netanyahu and he is not OWNED by Israel. Biden is the single politician in history with largest amount of money received from Israel Lobby. This is public and factual information easy to corroborate, Google it. The next recipient of Israel money is senator Menéndez yes Mr Honesty , all other politicians are half or less. So when you are the recipients of millions (some official numbers are over $4 million , but some claim that is over $10 million through different pro Israel Pacs) but the official record speaks very clear where his loyalty goes. Obama select him as VP mainly because Obama had not good relationship with AIPAC and Biden brought those donations. Biden has history of pro Israel and a personal friendship with Netanyahu that goes decades since he was a senator ( another easy to corroborate fact) Trump is not a personal friend of Netanyahu and he pushed him for his “Peace for prosperity Palestine” please take a minute and Google that proposal, at least calls for two state solution, not the best but much better where we are today. Finally on the Bolton issue, please read Botton’s book where Bolton criticize Trump for not going to war with Iran and how he and Pompei met every morning planing how to convince Trump for bellicose actions, where Trump was the only one concerned with civilians casualties and he did stop many proposed attacks. Trump has a lot of problems but warmonger is not one. His NATO proposal was very rational, why do we need to maintain at taxpayer expense over 800 military bases all over the world to protect countries that are not willing to pay their portion?
Rafael,The 800 military bases all over the world are not for any altruistic protection of vassal states. It is to safeguard US hegemony.
The countries with US military bases have to forfeit their autonomy. Japan is said to be like an aircraft carrier for the US military.
GOP vs. Dems = naked genocidal greed vs. genocidal greed decorated with symbolic minority dolls.
Trump is a boor. But I don’t see how his “foreign policy” could possibly be worse than ByeDone’s. At the very least, I don’t believe he’d have cheerfully given billions of our tax dollars to Ukrainazia.
Trump's main strength is that he is totally unwilling to go to war for the neocons..He's way too pro-Israel for my taste, but he will not start a war in the ME for any reason...THAT is a major reason they are trying to force him out of the race...the jewish neocons want WW3...
The only reason that we did not get into a hot war with Iran or Syria under Trump was because of the extreme forbearance that they showed.
I don't agree, although that helped...Trump didn't get into any wars, and tried to pull out of Afghanistan, but got overruled somehow...The neocon crazies don't need any actual cause to start a war with someone, check out the heinous Libya bombing. by Hillary...
Trump tried twice to pull out Syria, but cucked out on both occasions. He also attacked Syria twice and expanded US military presence there. Hardly a Profile In Courage.
Regarding Afghanistan, Trump basically set up the withdrawal for after 2020. Hence, it became Biden's problem.
Concerning Iran, you don’t murder their top general, invited into Iraq by the regime we installed, then claim you don't want war.
But none of that has to do with HRC.
that really stood out with the John Bolton appt
And when Trump realized what Bolton was really up to, he fired him...Better late than never! Trump sometimes seems to be a slow learner, but he doesn't do war....
that Trump only realized what Bolton was after he appointed him means he is either retarded or really doesn't care about neocons as long as they polish his knob, or both
Trump gave Netanyahu a penthouse suite in New York Trump Tower. He has development contracts through his kid with Netanyahu to develop the stolen Palestinians lands! He is presently cheering on the destruction and genocide being done in Gaza and wants an active war with Iran. So there is your answer as to what we are in for if he gets in office. Not more of the same but worse! I say vote Jill Stein and she is presently doing better in the polls and does have the best chance of winning! This is the perfect time since at the bare minimum 63% of the people support her statements and she wants us out of all wars and every single thing is for the people not the Criminal Elite.
I am afraid you are right but it gets even worse. I watch Glenn Greenwald and his last edition brought to light some things that make it apparent that the Criminal Elite are about to call Trump supporters as domestic terrorist and take away their rights to vote! Then today I see on X that the DOJ is openly now going after anyone from J6 even if they didn't enter the capital. We have been played I believe as this is meant to eliminate any type of actual opposition that would stand a chance of taking back control. When J6 happened I immediately said it was a plan that was basically a dry run so they would be able to learn how to control an actual revolt. Now they are playing the rest of the hand.
he sucked, he was still not as bad as Biden.
Poor desperate Americans! Don't know who to vote for.... in a government of the oligarchs; by the oligarchs; for the oligarchs. Whoever thought it was "government of the people; by the people; for the people"... .
Trump was just marginally better than Biden. Sure there would not have been war between Russia and Ukraine with a second Trump term. However he would have been no better or maybe even worse than Biden with the Middle East. Don’t forget he ordered the assassination of Soliemani and there’s a town named after him on the illegally occupied Golan Heights. And both Trump and Biden have been sabre rattling at China. Not an American, but if I was and voting I would probably vote for progressive Democrats down ballot and just leave the vote for President blank.
I’m writing in Rashida Tlaib. The only brave and conscientious representative of the People in leadership.
This part was sarcasm.
It is not only liberals who support Israel in this war. It is also conservatives, especially religious ones, who support Israel.
Trump is a big supporter of Israel.
A number of you seem to be trapped in duopoly thinking, whether D-R, Lib-Conserv, or whatever dualism fits best. I'm not advocating for Trump, merely pointing out the insanity of the enthusiasm for restoring a status quo that's complicit in genocide. For anyone who believes in voting for corrupt politicians as a solution, at least express disaffection by voting different -- non-duopoly. Count your (supposedly wasted) vote as a protest, an indicator of refusal to support a status quo where to even rise to candidacy in either major party requires a candidate to sell their soul to repulsive plutocrats who'd just as soon see you evaporate as address your concerns. The only way out of this in NOT through either major party. Imagine 10% of the electorate voting "neither". Hardly a revolution, but at least the beginnings of a rumble. I haven't voted duopoly since 1988, nor will I ever again.
Not understanding this sound logic by the absolute majority of the voting herd points to the utter sickness of the society.
Trump is not a conservative. He’s not in any way traditionalist, nor interested in preserving anything.
He is a degenerate, intent on destroying society.
Yes, but so are most in DC. I don't think Trump has reached the degeneracy of certain Dem progeny. Looks to me like all of DC is intent on using "society" to amass power, inflict damage and extract money. the Dems only see issues as campaign fodder. I see no one to vote for, really, and also I am not sure that our electoral process has f**k-all to to with "democracy".
None of that means I support Trump, by the way, I am tired of that zero-sum sophistry that seems like an automatic whack-a-mole response from Dems. (Not aimed at you, just something I have noticed in general).
Opposing fascism and correctly calling Trump a fascist are not an endorsement of Democrats. Please!
Please? Save your frustration for someone who doesn't get it. Granted. Nor did I say -- or imply -- that it was. But if you're intent on throwing around "Fascist", it'd be a lot more accurate to simply use "authoritarian", or even "unelected authoritarian" to describe the current crew -- as in unelected Blinken assuming the role of an elected president by declaring an emergency need to bypass congress and send "emergency" munitions to Israel. Functionally, there is precious little difference in the authoritarian functioning of our supposed republic under either cadre of corrupt sycophants for big money. And of course voting alone solves very little because the economic structures of crony capitalism remain firmly in place as the substrate for either subtly creeping or rudely overt authoritarian decisions designed to sustain that very possibility of the continued flourishing of the best democracy (tongue-in-cheek) money can buy. Trump's version is merely less polite, but neither version moves us anywhere but one step closer to the cliff that awaits all empires clinging to violence as a last gasp.
Exactly!
What Biden and the Dems have been doing is fascist too.
So if you use this term and you don’t pin it on BOTH, then in effect you are hiding one of them from the damning label they deserve.
and there's a LOT more to politics and activism and citizenship than voting and electoral work
It's remarkable how far down a dead end road unexamined beliefs can take one. How hard to dislodge one's sense of identity with one's own belief systems. Perhaps why a steady diet of books and listening to a variety of people - might help break up the concrete rigidity of your to much hardened beliefs - which sometimes (or even often) are not correct. Should also mention, even listening to one's own unconscious via dreams helps dislodge the ego from its rigidity.
Well said jamenta!
"Israel apologists pretend to be standing up for Jews when they’re really just standing up for a government. They’re garden variety bootlickers, the same as any empire simp you see shrieking at people for criticizing western warmongering. They’re just slobbering over state power."
My thoughts exactly. Let's call these aggressive apologists what they really are: "Fanatical Volunteers for Apartheid, Ethnic-Cleansing, and Genocide".
They'll do whatever it takes -- lie, spin, smear, cancel anyone who dares criticize, or even question, their Idol State.
Caitlin says it's insanity to support Israel.
That's True.
The US is deeply in debt and every dime is borrowed on the backs of Americans. Israel's mean income is $54000. Per year. So when you read this and see that Your government GIVES more than $ 100000. Per person in Israel per year. You should be very very upset. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2023-10-10/how-much-aid-does-the-u-s-give-to-israel.
US arms manufacturers get all the money less bribes.
Follow the money, and ask who you can not criticize, those are our owners!
I really don't think Trump can win again but even if he does I really hope there would be no more Israel at that point. Israel has exposed itself as a nation of parasites and world would be a much better place without it.
"The most significant aspect of the Epstein story is not that he helped some famous people rape minors, it’s that powerful intelligence agencies use child sex slaves and sexual blackmail to exert control over our society."
Excellent point.
Caitlin makes excellent points, and when actually reading and thinking about them, I say to myself how can such a large number of people be so ignorant to believe all the lies and propaganda and support such inhumanity. Of course the answer may be some innate error in our genetic makeup, the same error that has us destroying the Earth, its animals, and soon most life in the rush to the 6th Extinction Event.
Some particularly odious issues--
We may get Trump as potus again because the DNC sabotaged a primary contest within the Party, brought on by corporate bribed officials and the arms industry. And maybe there is a little blackmail going on also in the background?
It is the sickest situation when peace loving protesters and active environmentalists can be labeled as terrorists and their lives instantly ruined by a government that jails them and financially ruins them, and in some instances tortures them. Are we struggling to keep our Democracy or a fascist state? Look at Assange and fear. Look at Mandela and hope.
Many major cities have since after 911 sponsored and paid for their police and others to go to Israel for training in their style of anti-terror tactics. There is a bonding between police departments here and the state of Israel, and if labeled a antisemite in the U.S., beware. This situation probably is present in other countries as well. The militarization of the locals in charge of protecting us is frightening and ominous.
So what is around the corner? Will major nations of the world coalesce to bring the U.S. Empire to its knees, or will change come from within, with strikes and open revolution and decay? Or both?
I lost a supposedly good friend this past week, who advocates for the continued mass slaughter in Gaza. He advocates killing as many innocents as necessary to eventually destroy Hamas. His
excuse, “that is the way of the world, always has been”. He became incensed when I suggested he was a wannabe fascist.
Peace!
Hi Michael
I am no longer on speaking terms with three in-laws because they treat the decimation of Gaza like it’s a sports contest. “Oh, and let’s bomb Iran too!”
Once I cut ties, it’s forever. I neither forgive nor forget.
I know what you mean. It's a pretty tough decision. For me, I'm in the process of cutting off ties with my entire family (it's going to get lonely) - they're generally nice people, but they have been so brainwashed by ZioNazi ideology that it is difficult to have a conversation with them. It's shocking how people close to you that you thought were "good", "decent" people let you down when challenging circumstances highlight their true colors.
It's depressing, because I would really like to reason with them based on facts and critical thinking, but their minds are shut-off and non-receptive. It's impossible to debate/converse with someone when their only strategy is to use emotions.
I may not forget, but I need to learn to forgive - not for their sake, but for my own peace of mind.
I know well what you mean. I truly would have liked as you did to have a proper discussion with my family too but it is something that I just can't get through to that mind underneath the propaganda. It astonishes me to see someone who I always thought could see truth for truth be as blind as the darkest room could make anyone be
so blind.
Hi Chang
My sympathy and I mean that with all my heart.
I too will NEVER understand why some “people” believe it’s fine and dandy to decimate an entire population. (Ironically, these same people love to accuse Russia of brutality and war crimes.)
Oddly, the one I didn’t cut ties with is my evangelical SIL, because she is an otherwise lovely person and we have a good history together despite our opposing beliefs.
The three I DID cut off didn’t mean a flying fuck to me anyways. I don’t even think about them anymore. Once that door has slammed, it stays shut.
Man condolences. It happened to me with old college friends. It's a hard pill to take - as there was some real friendship lost. Life goes on.
God, it’s so depressing to witness people around you being soooo inhumane, corrupt and downright evil. This whole horror show has removed the mask off the West and it’s greed and corruption . How indescribably cruel it would be if they win .
Well said Michael G!
if your friend claims to be "pro-life" you might suggest something about that too
Good point but that is a convenient argument meant only for fetuses, not the rest of humanity.
I think it depends who wields the argument as to whether it's only meant for fetuses. I like to raise it because most "pro-lifers" I know are so smugly self-righteous about it and holding it up to make them face how that label is a farce is both satisfying and potentially a seed of doubt about their own principles (although many are incapable of that level of self-examination).
Reading Caitlin's Newsletter is like therapy for me. It validates my feelings and thinking at this critical juncture of human life on this planet. I cannot speak to my father or sisters about politics as my sisters are ardent Biden supporters and my Dad? He worked in Jerusalem for the Empire back in the 80s. They have all exiled and abandoned me before and now I stay in touch just to know how we all end up.
I feel you. Stay strong!
Thank you for your kind words my friend.
I really appreciate your laser focus on Palestine. It is ridiculous to worry about Trump or even mention his name at this point.
The world is upside down when the President of Harvard is black listed, (pardon the term) because a few angry and powerless students suggested an intifada against Israel, while the entire US government is in the act of committing genocide against the Palestinians. Try putting that comment in the New York Times and it will be rejected as being hate speech.
You always make so many incisive points, thank you.
Caitlin's rationality in the face of irrational extemism/fascism is much needed daily medicine. Rationality always fights an uphill battle against ideological fanatics, or sociopathic power maniacs - who appear willing to blow up the world if they don't get their way.
We have been pointing out that Israel is a lawless apartheid State that is parasitic on the US government and taxpayer since the 1980s...but people "just smile and turn away."...It's an unpleasant fact that needs to be ignored in their minds...Now the Zoomers and the Millennials are willing to face these unpleasant facts, while the Boomers and Gen X won't...It's just a matter of time...Many of the pro-Palestinian protestors at Harvard were Jewish....
I’m a Boomer ( born in 1962 ) but this war and all it’s revelations about western society has made me swallow the red pill. My attitude has changed beyond recognition . I have dared to speak to some of my neighbours who purport to be Christians. They believe this war was referred to in the Old Testament and marks the return of Christ . Christian Zionists ?
Sadly, it's a real thing....,
Convenient for many, that Epstein never got to trial.
The Ghislaine Maxwell trial also was most instructive. To judge from the public record, she ever always only trafficked girls to Epstein, who just happened to be - oopsies! - dead!
For some mysterious reason, Epstein's and Maxwell's friends all were left out of it. Golly gee!
"It honestly blows my mind that there are still people adamantly supporting Israel after all this. After all the people they’ve killed. After all the lies they’ve been caught in. After all their comments endorsing genocide and ethnic cleansing, and all their actions showing they mean it."
Because Our Team, and yes, Israel means it, and yes, these people cheer with delight at the sight of murdered human kittens.
But only if those kittens are on The Other Team.
On a slightly different topic, it is interesting that one of the biggest current flashpoints involves the Houthis in Yemen and their actions in the Red Sea.
In Yemen, of course, until recently people had to put up with conditions which were, in some ways very similar to those in Gaza today - like the bombing of civilians, and of civilian infrastructure - and a blockade which led to a massive humanitarian catastrophe with hundreds of thousands of deaths. The important thing to notice, of course, is that the big Nation behind Saudi Arabia's assault on Yemen was exactly the same big Nation that is behind Israel's assault on Gaza. And the people of Yemen are very well aware of this. Which, I suspect, is why, they are doing what they are doing in the Red Sea at the moment.
And, on the subject of Yemen, there is also this . . . https://twitter.com/Aurorraz_/status/1742595234297676212
The Houthis have no corrupt and venal leaders to sanction, no western toys to take. They have nothing to lose and zero fucks left to give.
The Yemeni tribesmen have seen off the Ottomans, the British, the Egyptians and the Saudis, to give a partial list. There are numerous and satisfying recent videos out there of Houthis ambushing and bushwhacking Saudi columns.
I've No More Fucks To Give
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXK03FHVsHk
Much of the support comes from religious groups in the United States.